[10:41] SiDi: hi... could u hav a look at the breathe submissions wiki... i'v uploaded another set, changed the nm-50 color too :) ... any comments? [10:41] alright, give me a sec [10:41] im jubilating for my first gstreamer hello world app compiling and working ! [10:42] whats the hello world app? any links? [10:42] Heh, its just watching for volume change signals [10:43] ok... [10:43] I like that little glow around the signal stripes [10:43] how does it render in 24x24 though ? [10:44] the glow? faintly... [10:44] if the glow is a little larger then it looks horrible in 24x24! [10:44] please render the icons and add them to submissions :P [10:44] <- lazy [10:45] should u use gimp to convert them to 24x24 or how do i scale in inkscape? [10:45] ^I [10:46] you should use inkscape [10:46] ctrl+shift+e to render to bitmap [10:46] well, i suppose its the way to do [10:47] youu might want to ask the actual Breathe devs :] [10:47] oh i just use the 128x128 to render the 24x4 png? [10:48] dont resize png's :p [10:48] use the svg to make lower resolution png's [10:48] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ebreathe-dev/breathe-icon-set/trunk/download/head:/breathe_icon_templat-20080905042226-bvdzo9fb8th94dyh-3/Breathe_Icon_Template.svg?file_id=template-20080905042226-bvdzo9fb8th94dyh-2 [10:49] ok... i was about to resize in gimp...! just now saw the option to resize as png..,! [10:49] ah not the template... ! i get headaches trying to figure it out :P [10:53] :p [10:54] you _must_ use it for submissions :D [10:56] it is just "recomended" :P [11:10] SiDi: uploaded the 24x24 .. :) [11:12] I barely see the antenna now ^^ [11:12] but the stripes look quite good [11:12] yeah ... the antannae is just to maintain the aspect of the wireless icon :P... [11:13] i'll test them live later and see what it gives with my panel [11:13] i tested these colors with light/dark/transparent panels... works fine [11:15] SiDi: u use xubuntu right? is there an icon set brave /bravo? i think it has similar wireless icons but all green... do u have the icon set? [11:16] hm [11:16] i use xubuntu yeh [11:16] but i use Human/breathe as an icon theme :p [11:16] the gnome-brave ones are similar yeh [11:17] its just i saw the icon set in xubuntu and would like to compare if i could make any improvements... could u upload the set to the web? [11:18] err, download it from gnome-look ;) [11:18] or install xubuntu-artwork \o/ [11:18] is it there? [11:18] yeh [11:19] i tried searching... let me look again! [13:21] _MMA_: hi... have u checked the ones i'v uploaded today, are they better ? [13:23] <_MMA_> macvr: I think they are. I want kwwii (since he's done like icon) or Sebastien to chime in on the mailing list. [13:25] _MMA_:ok.. oh... i forgot the mailing list... i'll send a mail too.. [13:25] <_MMA_> np [13:26] <_MMA_> macvr: Only a few people are subscribed to the page edits. [13:26] _MMA_: yeah... i keep forgetting the mailing list...! [13:27] I actually stopped following the page edits cause of massive spam it generates, personally :] [13:27] <_MMA_> hahaha. Like the list isn't. :P [13:28] _MMA_, btw i understand your point about moderated lists :D there have been a few epic "contributions" lately. Like that solaris manzur guy [13:29] <_MMA_> SiDi: I'm on so many lists can you gimmie a link? [13:29] * _MMA_ also got off some lately though. [13:30] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2009-May/author.html bottom of page [13:33] <_MMA_> Oh I forgot all about him. [13:33] <_MMA_> There will always be people who have an opposing view. [13:34] well, it would be good if he was actually capable of explaining his point of view :] [13:34] instead of trolling so hard [13:34] <_MMA_> What will kill alot of people is that we're not doing something Tango-esque. And the fact that it's a design decision. [13:36] <_MMA_> Well I dont think English is his native language. So folks like that often use words that at their face seem very harsh for a native speaker. [13:36] true === SiDi_ is now known as SiDi [20:45] hey [20:45] any one here from the brethe icon set? [20:45] not at the moment, afaik [20:46] got a message for them ? :P [20:46] no just wondering what it was [20:46] :) [20:46] seams prety based on oxygen and as oxygen maintainer i was wondering :) [20:46] its based on oxygen indeed :) [20:47] "Because Human needs Oxygen" is the subtitle of Breathe [20:47] :) [20:49] cheking it out [20:49] its prety difrent [20:51] couple of icons are oxygen [20:51] its orange, maybe ? :P [20:51] but most no [20:52] yeah very orange [20:52] they designed all the icons on their own, some are heavily based on oxygen, and some have been created from scratch [20:52] and my gess alot of difrent people working on them [20:52] couple of difrent styles [20:53] but best of luck on the project [20:53] seams a prety cool idea [20:53] Not that many people actually [20:53] most of the icons are from about 3/4 people [20:53] but they did an awesome work :P Its rare to see actively developed icon themes [20:54] yeah [20:54] its a monster work [20:55] a complete icon set is in the range of the 2500 icons [20:55] fredesktop is just about 400 i think [20:55] still quite a big work [20:55] well, there are many symlinks though [20:56] if major DEs would agree on cleaning their icons' naming it would help a lot [20:56] ooo that is doen [20:56] done [20:56] check out full oxygen [20:56] its all fredesktop naming compatible [20:57] at least all ok kde is or iss soon becoming completly freedesktop naming compatible [20:58] i wouldnt say the same of xfce^^ there are a few weird names here n there [20:58] in all icons not just the specific fredesktop ones [20:58] SiDi: some one needs to talk to xfce^^ people then [20:58] :) [20:59] i have a prety hard time convincing the kde developers [20:59] oh well, i dont think they have the time to go through it all now :P ill file bug reports one day or another, and provide patches wherever i can [20:59] KDE has like 10x more developers than xfce, if not more [21:00] actualy we removed oxygen from kdebase to kdesuport so we can control that so developers just use the icons from oxygen [21:00] whats the difference ? [21:00] they dont include icons any more [21:00] im totally ignorant about kde stuff :D [21:00] oxygen is a dependency [21:00] a kde app as no icons [21:01] its dependent on oxygen [21:01] that avoids the usual icon duplication [21:02] so we are creting a rather large colection of good icons names [21:02] wow, im not understanding at all :D [21:02] :) [21:03] say app xyz they nedd 23 icons [21:03] for all theyr tasks [21:03] oxygen makes those icons and names them [21:03] and it only installs these ? [21:03] no [21:03] they require oxygen as a dependency [21:03] hm, so you let KDE devs chose the icons they need and you _make_ the icons ? [21:03] yeap [21:04] http://tinyurl.com/33qfzs [21:04] hey swalko [21:05] Wow ! :P [21:05] yes oxygen makes the icons and names them in a fredesktop way [21:05] that avoids duplication [21:05] making the same icon for 3 difrent apps and every time a bit difrently [21:06] pinheiro: hi [21:08] swalko: cheking out what breath is [21:08] :) [21:09] pinheiro: breathe? [21:10] https://launchpad.net/breathe-icon-set [21:10] pinheiro: for me breathe isnt as good as it want to be or as it may be [21:11] well oxygen took alot of time to define its style [21:11] was the worts part of the process [21:11] about 2 years [21:12] so i would give them time [21:12] pinheiro: you and oxygen in overall have experience [21:12] pinheiro: in creating icons and things around [21:13] yes [21:13] experience is aquiered by doing stuf [21:13] pinheiro: like creatings small icon sizes, exporting and etc [21:13] yeah [21:14] pinheiro: i created only one or two icons for oxygen, but it was big experience for me to work with you and oxygen too [21:14] was i meen? [21:15] i usualy am [21:15] :P [21:15] bit of a ovely critical person [21:15] so if i was plese sory [21:15] onestly [21:17] pinheiro: i am critical too, your critics was my motor :) [21:17] :) [21:17] any way best of luck for breath [21:17] there is not enough orange in the world [21:17] :D [21:18] pinheiro: :) [21:18] we alrady took blue :P [21:40] hehehehe just been declied as a member of the breathe team :) [21:40] hehehehhe [21:49] SiDi: Rev. 37 when you get a change. Should be a bit more consistent. [21:49] chance* [21:50] pulled :D [21:50] If it looks good to you and have time for xwfm, I'll make a page and a release [21:50] .1 [21:51] great :) [21:51] :) [21:51] ill do the xfwm in a few days then [21:51] Awesome [21:52] I need to figure out releases on launchpad [21:52] Should be fairly simple [21:52] but i'll make an alternate xfwm4 folder with the previous metacity too, cause i <3'd it :D [21:52] Ok np [21:52] yeh. you just make the deb, and go post a big "RELEASED" on planet [21:52] Ha, I have no planet axx [21:53] me neither ^^ [21:53] Maybe I'll try for membership some day, but I do not feel worthy enough just yet =/ [21:55] Does the old metacity still look good with the newest revision? [21:55] I guess it would. [21:55] All dark. [21:55] - the gradient [21:59] Yes it does :) [21:59] the toolbar color isnt the same [21:59] Ironic, Breathe is missing from Ubuntu-Art.org [21:59] but with the same color i think it'd be sexy-ish [21:59] oh :P indeed [22:00] I'll see if I can match the colors (old metacity)