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jmarsdenWell, you are still using whatever nameserver is running on 192.168.0.2 -- so dnsmasq is probably still involved?00:04
jmarsdencellofellow: How hard would it be for you to switch to bind for your local DNS server (the one on 192.168.0.2) and repeat the experiment?00:07
cellofellowdunno, never used bind00:08
cellofellowbut it seems to have nothing to do with dnsmasq or bind or whathaveyou, but the domain in the resolv.conf00:09
jmarsdenHow do you know?  The DNS server you are using is dnsmasq.  And that resolv.conf is fine, and I don't see that issue here using something similar and bind as the DNS server... and you originally stated that the issue was with "dnsmasq and /etc/resolv.conf" ...00:10
jmarsdenYou could turn up logging in dnsmasq and see what queries it receives with and without the search and domain entries in resolve.conf, if you want to track it down that way.00:12
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ThierryMoisanhi, I'm setting up my first ubuntu server, it works correctly on the local network but even with a dyndns account pointing on my ip and port fordward, I can't get to connect to my server (but I can ping it)01:52
BrixSatHello01:58
BrixSatHow can i force my ubuntu server (gateway) to make local dns queries first then make it on the dns server from my isp?01:58
BrixSatany help?01:59
jmarsdenBrixSat: You need to configure your local DNS server to use the ISP's DNS as a "forwarder".02:01
BrixSatwell i have done that02:02
BrixSatbut still going to isp02:02
jmarsdenIs /etc/resolv.conf pointing at your local DNS server?02:03
BrixSatyes but every time i reboot it looses the info02:03
jmarsdenYour server gets its IP address using DHCP?02:03
BrixSatyes02:03
jmarsdenSo every time you reboot it might end up on a different IP address?  That's awkward for servers, usually... there's a way to override the resolve.conf stuff... let me find it...02:04
BrixSat:)02:04
jmarsdenCan you set the local DHCP server to hand out the option that sets the DNS server to (local IP of your server) ?02:05
BrixSati did not understand it02:06
BrixSatmy ubuntu server is acting as a gateway so on one nic modem adsl and on the other nic router's and stuff02:07
Tweakinanyone care to save the day with my postfix installation?02:08
Tweakintrying to solve the 'Relay access denied'02:08
BrixSatno jmarsden no i cant, it is the isp modem wich means it is stupid modem!02:11
jmarsdenOK... there should be a way to override that behaviour, but I'm not finding it right now... I just make servers have static local IPs...02:11
jmarsdenBrixSat: Try the idea at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19123902:14
BrixSatanother question, can i have on the gateway a dns entry www.campingave.net and not passing it to the net? cause i dont want to interfeer with the real site on the hosting server, i want to make like a mirror that everyone inside the network access the local copy and the internet users access the one on the hosting server02:15
jmarsdenBrixSat: Yes, you can make your local DNS server believe it is the master for campingave.net if you want; only systems that do DNS lookups on it will use that info.02:16
BrixSatthanks ;)02:16
jmarsdenYou could also get tricky and have it only hand out its own info on the LAN interface (to local machines) with a view in named.conf, but that's probably not necessary for what you are doing.02:17
BrixSat~:)02:17
BrixSatim going to try the link you give me02:17
jmarsdenTweakin: How are you wanting SMTP senders to authenticate with your server so they can send email through it?02:17
Tweakinhmm, not sure on the answer there. TLS?02:18
TweakinI followed the Ubuntu Server Guide to get this all setup, so using postfix/dovecot02:19
jmarsdenSounds like you need to understand what relay denied means before you configre a mail server?02:19
jmarsdenYes, but how will users that want to send mail identify themselves to your server?02:19
TweakinI do understand what it means ;) This is my first ubuntu postfix/dovecot config, I have used Gentoo in the past to setup several others. Gentoo is just getting to hard to maintain.02:20
TweakinI was just unsure of the phrasing of your question02:20
jmarsdenWill they all have local unix accounts on the server?  Use LDAP?  Some other database of users in a SQL databases...?02:20
Tweakinyup, local accounts02:20
jmarsdenTLS has nothing to do with how users authenticate.02:20
jmarsdenOK; did you use the dovecot-postfix package to integrate the two?02:21
TweakinIs that what tasksel does when you first install ubuntu server edition? I would assume so.02:21
jmarsdenWhich release of Ubuntu Server are you using?02:22
Tweakin8.04 LTS02:22
jmarsdenOK, then I don't think it has that package.02:22
jmarsdenI take it postfix works fine other that the user auth stuff... you can send mail from a local shell account on the server just fine, right?02:23
Tweakinyup, and receiving is working remotely. Just not sending remotely02:23
jmarsdenThe options for dovecot auth all changed recently, so looking at my Ubuntu 9.04 setup isn't going to help much...02:24
Tweakinyeah, I am following the 8.04 server guide02:25
BrixSatjmarsden :( i have rebooted the network, not working, should i reboot the pc?02:25
jmarsdenBrixSat: Can you pastebin the output of postconf -n so I can see that config, and also /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf (i think that's the right file!)02:26
jmarsdenBrixSat: You "rebooted the network"?  Can you explain what you mean by this?02:27
BrixSat[jmarsden]: ok :)02:27
jmarsdenBrixSat: OOps, wrong person...02:28
jmarsdenTweakin: Can you pastebin the output of postconf -n so I can see that config, and also /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf (i think that's the right file!)02:28
Tweakinjmarsden; pm for the links or here?02:28
jmarsdenHere is fine, they shouldn't have any sensitive info in them.02:28
Tweakinwould rather not want my domain in public (if that is ok)02:28
jmarsdenOh, OK... PM is fine too.02:29
BrixSathttp://pastebin.com/f4ee395a202:29
BrixSathttp://pastebin.com/f31220d0902:30
BrixSatthe files you asked :=)02:30
jmarsdenBrixSat: Sorry, I meant Tweakin ... trying to help two people at once here and got confused!  Is your network Ok now?02:31
BrixSat[jmarsden]: no my network still does not response to local dns queries02:32
jmarsdenBrixSat: Does dig @localhost yahoo.com    # work when done on the server?02:33
jmarsdenTweakin: Looks sane.  Is dovecot-auth running ?02:33
BrixSatjmarsden yes it does work|02:34
jmarsdenBrixSat: OK, so you have a working named.  From a workstation does dig @192.168.0.1 yahoo.com  # work, where 192.16.0.1 is the IP of that local Ubuntu server?02:35
BrixSatwell all my other machines are windows i cant test dig :(02:35
Tweakinjmarsden; dovecot is running, is there a separate -auth daemon?02:35
jmarsdenBrixSat: OK, use nslookup instead...02:35
BrixSat:)02:35
jmarsdenTweakin: Yes, there is.02:35
Tweakinahh ha02:35
Tweakinwell, that would be a problem02:36
jmarsdenYes, something has to be listening on that private/auth-client socket so postfix can talk to it :)02:36
jmarsdenThe daemon should be called dovecot-auth (unless it changed its name since 8.04...)02:37
Tweakinhmm, this is my first go with dovecot (i have always used cyrus). How do I get dovecot-auth installing/running?02:37
jmarsdenIt should be installed as part of dovecot-common.  It should run, as log as your dovecot.conf file is sane... I think!02:40
jmarsdenTweakin: is there a file /usr/lib/dovecot/dovecot-auth on your system?02:40
Tweakinyup02:41
BrixSatjmarsden http://pastebin.com/m4670e0e3 :) result of nslookup02:42
Tweakinso perhaps that is not the problem02:42
jmarsdenTweakin: OK, so it is installed... just not running?  Maybe try /etc/init.d/dovecot restart02:43
jmarsdenBrixSat: So it can't find any info on your domain... does that same lookup work when run on the server itself?02:44
BrixSat[jmarsden]: yes02:44
geniiIs there some service or site which will run an audit on your server and report problems?02:46
Tweakinjmarsden; my bad, dovecot-auth is running02:47
BrixSatgenii is the question for me?02:47
geniiBrixSat: No, for the channel02:47
jmarsdenBrixSat: Sounds like your named.conf is not allowing other machines to query that domain... check you have an    allow-query { any; };   in the zone's part of the file?02:49
BrixSatjmarsden want to see my zone file?02:49
jmarsdenTweakin: OK... so it is running but not allowing users to authenticate... is there anything of interest in the log files?02:50
BrixSatjmarsden http://pastebin.com/f37f01f7d02:50
jmarsdenBrixSat: Well, only if you can't debug it yourself :)  OK...02:50
jmarsdenBrixSat: That looks OK, maybe I need your named.conf file?02:51
BrixSatjmarsden want to see my zone file02:51
jmarsdengenii: It's safer to do that yourself using nessus and similar tools...02:51
jmarsdenBrixSat: I guess so...02:52
BrixSatjmarsden http://pastebin.com/f1d210e5802:52
geniijmarsden: I had previously SARA but that box is defunct now02:53
jmarsdenBrixSat: Unless you put it /etc/bind/named.conf.local I don't see where the campingave zonefile is being used?02:54
BrixSatyes it is in locaL02:54
jmarsdenOK... I suppose now you need to paste *that* :)02:54
BrixSatjmarsden http://pastebin.com/f3E294F002:54
jmarsdenBrixSat: That link doesn't work for me... ?02:55
BrixSat[jmarsden]: sorry http://pastebin.com/f3e3294f002:55
Tweakinjmarsden; sent you log file - a few things stick out obviously, nothing i have been able to diagnose02:56
jmarsdenTweakin: Looks to me like it didn't even try to authenticate?  And the SSL hides all the details from me... if you telnet localhost 25 and ehlo junk do you see the AUTH capability listed?02:57
BrixSatnow something weird just hapened jmarsden, i can access www.campingave.net (hosted site) but all the others like ftp.campingave.net goes to my local site02:58
Tweakinehlo has STARTTLS02:59
jmarsdenBrixSat: As I said 10 mins ago, you need an allow-query { any; } ; in there.... see http://pastebin.com/m690b46a502:59
jmarsdenTweakin: again, TLs is orthogonal to (has no impact on) how users authenticate... and you said you understood this...?03:00
jmarsdenThe AUTH=PLAIN is what matters for auth, and it is there... so it should work...03:00
jmarsdenCan you try connecting using a client that does not use TLS and that does try to authenticate with a username and pw?03:01
BrixSatno same thing with allow query any :S03:02
jmarsdenBrixSat: Check your log files for anything named related?03:02
Tweakinjmarsden; i am using both outlook and thunderbird to test with- and attempting each different set of options for outgoing mail with each. user/pass (yes/no), ssl connection (yes/no), etc03:05
Tweakinno luck03:05
jmarsdenOK, can you pastebin the log from an attempt with user/pass yes and ssl connection no ?03:05
Tweakinsure03:05
BrixSatone stupid question, where is bind9 log? i cant find it03:06
jmarsdenBrixSat: /var/log/messages or /var/log/daemon.log I think... I forget what the default log file location for named is!03:10
jmarsdenTweakin: No sign of any attempt at auth there... strange?03:11
Tweakini just turned -v back on in master.cf03:12
Tweakinlet me paste the full beast03:12
jmarsdenOK.  BTW You may want to test auth using telnet, see https://helpdesk.ndchost.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=49 for a quick howto on that.03:13
Tweakinsent the big log ;)03:15
jmarsdenOK... looking ...03:16
Tweakinhmm, when attempt AUTH LOGIN via telnet, I get:03:16
Tweakin"535 5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: Invalid authentication mechanism"03:16
TJUSEcan someone help me >03:18
TJUSE?*03:18
jmarsdenTweakin: Read the EHLO option list again :)  You don't have AUTH LOGIN configured, only AUTH PLAIN03:18
Tweakinoh duh03:18
Tweakinned auth plain heh03:18
TJUSEi just am messing around. starting using ubuntu server.03:18
jmarsdenAh.. so that howto was not the best one to give you... my fault!03:18
jmarsden!ask03:19
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)03:19
TJUSEand i am trying to access the server remotely without IP03:19
TJUSEhow can i access my server instead of using my IP03:19
jmarsdenTJUSE: Sit at its console and work there?  If you want to use its name, give it a name in the DNS?  I'm not sure what you are really wanting to do?03:20
jmarsdenRemote access to a server without IP means you need some other (non-IP) network to connect to it??03:21
jmarsdenWhy can't you use IP to get to your server, it is how the Internet works... IP == Internet Protocol.  Or am I not understanding what you are asking?03:22
BrixSatwell i cant solve it :( but thanks any way jmarsden03:22
TJUSEi got a DNS domain03:22
TJUSEwell i dont have a static IP03:22
jmarsdenTJUSE: OK, so then you should be able to use the FQDN (full DNS name) of the server instead of its public IP.03:22
TJUSEso every 3 hours it changes.03:22
TJUSEand i dont want to have to worry about figuring it out03:23
jmarsdenso you are using a dynamic DNS provider, such as no-ip.org, right?03:23
TJUSEi am using exactly that.03:23
TJUSEmy registered host is snoopy@hopto.org03:23
TJUSEand if i telnet or ssh it.03:24
TJUSEi dont get nothing...03:24
TJUSEhow am i supposed to "tie" my server to the hsot?03:24
TJUSEhost*?03:24
jmarsdenSo is your server currently at public IP 204.16.252.112 ?03:24
jmarsdenYou use the no-ip client that updates the info in the DNS server...03:25
TJUSEno its at71.219.116.16503:25
TJUSEok.03:26
TJUSEso i put the client on.03:26
TJUSEand it shows my current IP?03:26
TJUSEbut how to i terminal to my server?03:26
TJUSEwhat do i enter.03:26
jmarsdenYes it connects to your dynamic DNS provider and updates your info whenever it changes.03:26
TJUSEcuz before i put "ssh admin@71.219.116.165"03:26
jmarsdenOnce you have that working, you can ssh admin@hopto.org03:27
jmarsdenYou can use the DNS name instead of the IP address, as we said earlier.03:27
TJUSEand than login in with my credentials03:27
jmarsdenYes.03:27
TJUSEits still not letting me?03:29
TJUSE22 refused?03:29
TJUSEand all my ports are open.03:29
TJUSEi can ssh with IP just fine.03:29
jmarsdenhopto.org is still pointing at the 204.16.252.112 address... the update is not yet working.03:29
TJUSEwell i have several.03:30
TJUSEhopto.org03:30
TJUSE3utilities.com03:30
jmarsdenget ONE working, forget the rest for now :)03:30
TJUSEunder my host by domain. i have calbert.hopto.org03:31
TJUSEwith 71.219.116.165 as the IP?03:31
TJUSEaccording to no-ip.com03:31
jmarsdenOK, so ssh admin@calbert.hopto.org  then :)03:32
TJUSEport 22 refused.03:33
jmarsdenTweakin: I have to go afk and eat...03:33
TJUSEif i type IP or calbert.hopto.org in browser it asks for username and pw03:33
TJUSE??? but i never set one.03:34
TJUSE(please note i am a COMPLETE NOOB)03:34
Tweakinjmarsden; thanks for your help. No idea on that last log paste?03:34
TJUSEi am still trying to learn and easiest way to do that is through hands on03:34
jmarsdenTJUSE:  Is your server directly on the Internet?  if not did you forward port 22 (and 80) through the router to your server?03:34
TJUSEmy ports are open03:35
jmarsdenTweakin: Still looks liek the client did not send any AUTH information, to me.03:35
TJUSEi can ssh with IP just fine..03:35
jmarsdenI'll be back later...03:35
TJUSEbut not with host.03:35
Tweakinthanks jmarsden03:35
TJUSE443, 22, and 80 are open03:36
TJUSEshit03:38
TJUSEnow i cant even get on through IP?03:38
TJUSEmy router is saying my ports are open.03:38
TJUSEbut i cannot connect?03:38
poseidonAnyone know of a good tutorial on setting up ubuntu to be a home server?  I mainly want it to be a central hub for my media03:45
uvirtbotNew bug: #382034 in samba (main) "Was attempting to install Samba" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38203404:11
PhotoJimposeidon: not sure there is a howto, but it's pretty easy to do.  you want to use nfs-server for Linux clients, Samba for Windows, AFS or one of the other two can be used for Macs.  Really pretty easy.04:17
Rafaelcan somebody help me with the follwoing, a friend help me with rsync creting the following script: #!/bin/bash and rsync -v -r -d --delete /home/rgotten/Prueba/Myplasticare /home/rgotten/mnt/ >> /home/rgotten/logs/respaldo-`date +%d%m%Y`.log this has being sve to a file ./respaldo-archivos.sh, my question is how do i ron a crontab to do backups at 1am from monday to friday?05:59
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jmarsdenRafael: Read    man 5 crontab   # and especially read the part just after EXAMPLE CRON FILE.   Then do crontab -e  and type in a suitable crontab line, probably    0 1 * * 1-5 /home/rgotten/respaldo-archivos.sh06:50
reenignEesreveRi wanna setup a file sharing server ... an ungeeky so something better than ftp/samba should do ... is there any "getdropbox.com" like servcie which i may install on my ubuntu machine?09:37
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uvirtbotNew bug: #382117 in samba (main) "Renaming a file through Samba overwrites existing one" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38211711:36
hackeronhey, I just installed a clean ubuntu server, did apt-get install postgresql - when I try to run /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.3 start - I get: 2009-05-31 12:30:53 BST FATAL:  could not load server certificate file "server.crt": No such file or directory -- any ideas?12:32
aptanetI've not tried posrgresql mysefl, but have you tried using tasksel install postresql-server ?12:40
aptanetI don't have a box to check on handy, but that my bring in extra packages / configuration12:41
aptanetsounds like an ssl problem, is openssl installed?12:41
BlinkizHi. need some help with bridge interface. I want to bring a bridge interface up without having any physical (or virtual) interfaces attached to it. I know how todo it from command prompt but not from boot of OS. Anyone that know what am missing to get the br1 up in manual mode from /etc/network/interfaces?12:42
BlinkizAm looking for a command like "ip set link br1 up" in interfaces file.12:42
Blinkizbridge interface only starts automatic if I have static ip, dhcp or a interface connected to the bridge.12:43
aptanetdo you have any interfaces configured in /etc/network/interfaces? I assume you must have something12:45
aptanetif so you could add and 'up' entry to the end of one to run the cli commands you need to bring the interface up12:45
aptanetfor example, after the broadcast entry on one of my boxes I've got12:46
aptanetup /root/scripts/routes.rul12:46
aptanetwhich links to a script to add some custom routes once the interface is up12:46
Blinkizaptanet, this is my interfaces file: http://blinkiz.pastebin.com/d5d221d35 . I know want br1 to go up without having eth1 attached to it12:47
Blinkizknow = now12:47
aptanetdoes simply replacing 'manual' with 'auto' do the trick?12:49
BlinkizHmm, maybe.. w812:50
aptanethang on, brain not working!12:50
Blinkiznupp, unkown metod12:50
aptanetthat's ip wise, not whether it loads the interface!12:50
Blinkizaptanet, So should I just put in "up brctl addbr br1" or what?12:51
aptanetwhat are you bridging if there's only a single eth interface?12:53
Blinkizaptanet, It will be only virtual interfaces. Its a virtualization server12:53
BlinkizA internal network for only virtual machines12:55
aptanetnot technologies I've played with, so I'm just speculating12:55
aptanetif you don't have eth1 up would you use bridge_ports eth0 ?12:55
BlinkizFor now anyway. I will have a physical interface attached to the bridge on Thursday or something. Waiting for the server nic card...12:56
Blinkizaptanet, problem now is that I would like to get the bridge up at OS boot without having a interface attached to it12:57
BlinkizVirtual interfaces will be added when machines are started up after OS boot12:58
Blinkizmachines = virtual machines, i mean12:58
BlinkizI know this is possible! I had a guy in #ubuntu-virt a couple of days ago having the same problem. He solved it somehow by putting something in the interfaces file. Bad for me, I was not logging.12:59
BlinkizOh! Maybe #ubuntu-virt logs exist on the internet somewhere?!? :D12:59
aptanethttp://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/13:04
aptanetbut I don't see it in there13:04
Blinkizbummer13:05
aptanetgoing back to plan A, if you know the commands you can put them in a bash script and link it from an 'up' for the lo interface perhaps13:05
Blinkizaptanet, jepp, am going for that. thanks!13:06
uvirtbotNew bug: #382136 in samba (main) "Smbd startup failure caused by a failure to create an NT token for the guest account." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38213613:26
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dennistercould anyone else pls help with this postfix/dovecot/sasl authentication issue I'm having?14:36
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incorrecti am trying to set up acl's i've set it so i have rwx and set -R and -d on the directory, however i still can't create a directory up the tree17:26
giovaniincorrect: ls -ld /path/to/dir please17:27
incorrectls doesn't show acl's17:27
incorrectgetfacl dir17:28
incorrectits owned by root and as a different group17:28
giovaniACLs are totally different17:28
giovaniI didn't see your mention in the original request, sorry17:28
incorrectno problem17:28
incorrectdefault:user:myuser:rwx17:29
incorrecti can see its there17:29
incorrectduh  X not x17:31
CarlFKat some point sudo reboot (and shutdown -r now)  stopped rebooting back to POST/grub and started using something like kexec to reload the current kernel.17:32
CarlFKhow do I get it to reboot such that I can pick a different kernel from grub menu?17:32
FFForeverhow can i find out how much space Chris is using?18:21
MianoSMIn his home directory, or on an entire system?18:29
FFForeverhome dir18:29
MianoSMdu -sh /home/Chris18:30
MianoSMThat will show you Disk Usage (Summary / Human readable) for the directory /home/Chris18:30
FFForeverawesome18:30
MianoSM:)18:31
MianoSMyou might want to look up user quata18:31
MianoSMuser quota*18:31
FFForeverMianoSM, i would love to do user quota but i have yet to find a way without making vfs and putting the home dir in them...18:32
MianoSMI haven't had to implement user quota yet, so I'm not much help beyond reading a man page on it :(18:33
phaidroswhich virtualization is everyone here using on servers?20:18
phaidrosI am using xen since > 2 years, rock solid, stable.20:18
phaidrospity to know ubuntu has dropped xen support ..20:18
Gargoylephaidros: I don't use it directly, but my server is a xen virtual machine20:18
* dazman uses Hyper-V as the host for multiple Ubuntu servers. 20:19
dazmanDoes that count?  *runs*20:19
Alex_21Hi, all,20:19
phaidrosphaidros slaps dazman ..20:19
Alex_21I need to use Zip from the command line to make zips of a folder. How do yyou do this. "$ man zip" does not make sense20:20
Alex_21What are the sintax?20:20
Alex_21Please20:20
phaidrosAlex_21: it is dead easy: zip zipfile.zip files to zip /or/path/to/files/*20:21
Alex_21They are folders though20:22
Alex_21And those folders contain directories. I don't want to loose the directory structure20:23
phaidrosAlex_21: I don't see the problem20:23
_dennisterhey gang...having a bit of trouble configuring apt-proxy, can anyone help me with backend entries?20:23
Alex_21I thought it was "$ zip -r "path/to/folder" "zipfile.zip"20:23
dazmanAlex_21: zip -r20:23
phaidrosah, -r makes sense20:24
dazmanzip -r zipfile.zip dir/20:24
dazmansame as tar... destination zip first20:24
Alex_21Ok20:24
Alex_21Thanks20:24
_dennisterdazman: could you help me, pls?20:26
Alex_21And to install Ubuntu desktop edition for use as a server, which version should I use? I want to have more than four GB of RAM but currently I only have two20:26
Alex_21So I'm not sure what determins 32 bit from 64 bit and more importantly which one I should install20:27
dazmanAlex_21: To get more than 4GB RAM, you'll need x64 (providing you have an X64 box)20:27
dazmanAlex_21: and you'd probably be better off using Ubuntu-server, surely? :)20:27
dazman_dennister: just ask the question openly, and see who answers/helps. :)20:28
_dennisterdazman: i do, and no one helps in any of the channels I'm logged into :( not my usual experience, either20:29
_dennisterhey gang...having a bit of trouble configuring apt-proxy, can anyone help me with backend entries?20:29
phaidros_dennister: that is boviously a meta question ;)20:29
_dennisteri've gotta get this set up before bell starts charging me tons of $ tomorrow20:30
Alex_21How do I know what my box supports?20:30
phaidrossry, I have never used apt-proxy yet. but anyways, I can see not question ;)20:30
dazmanAlex_21: It depends on the CPU.20:30
Alex_21And why is Ubuntu Server better for a desktop system acting as a Server?20:30
Alex_21How do I know the CPU20:31
dazmanAlex_21: It's not always.20:31
Alex_21?20:31
_dennistertrying to import my cache into apt-proxy, but always get this error message: No Packages files available for ubuntu-whatever20:31
dazmancat /proc/cpuinfo will show you the model.20:31
phaidrosAlex_21: to distinguish between srever and desktop edition: metapackages and kernel are different, slightly, some setting in sysctl maybe20:31
_dennisterdazman: that specific enuf for you? :-)20:31
phaidros_dennister: this might be a bug: read here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29746720:33
Alex_21What do I look for20:34
Alex_21?20:34
dazmanModel Name20:34
Alex_21In determining the CPU and whether it is 64 bit compatible?20:34
Alex_21Please20:34
Alex_21Here: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          4300  @ 1.80GHz20:35
Alex_21stepping: 220:35
phaidros_dennister: people seem to recommend apt-cache ..20:35
dazmanAlex_21: Core 2's are x64 yep20:35
Alex_21So do I get better processor effectiveness or what out of 64 bit OS's20:37
Alex_21?20:37
_dennisterphaidros: yes, i'd seen the bug report in the howto, but the howto said it was ok to ignore it :( apt-cache doesn't do as much as I need it to do because of the blasted bell canada's illegal antics20:38
_dennisterbut I think the bug report might just have steered me into right/sensible path for a fix20:39
Alex_21And how do I know how much RAM I can squeeze in this box.20:39
_dennisterthanks; i'll let u know20:39
Alex_21I need to max it out if possible20:39
phaidros_dennister: glad I could help20:39
phaidrosAlex_21: the memory limit is determined by the motherboard usually. afaik.20:40
Alex_21How can I find out what is supported on this puppy?20:41
Alex_21Please20:41
phaidrosAlex_21: find the boardname (printed on the board) and ask google20:41
phaidrosthat I'd do20:42
Alex_21I can't.20:42
phaidrosso, ask someone who acan20:42
Alex_21And getting a sighted techie in here is hard at best20:42
phaidross/acan/can/20:42
phaidrossry i don't know any voodoo to determine tha max amount of ram for an unknown motherboard :/20:43
Alex_21The OS itself doesn't know the motherboard?20:43
phaidrosno.20:43
Alex_21It found the CPU20:43
Alex_21Oh20:43
Alex_21Ok20:43
phaidrosyou can maybe find out about the chipsets.20:43
Alex_21Here is an idea.20:43
Alex_21I know the Computer model number. I'll just Google that. Silly me.20:44
phaidros^^20:44
uvirtbotphaidros: Error: "^" is not a valid command.20:44
phaidrosirks20:45
phaidrossry uvirtbot, din't want to confuse u .. ^^20:45
jpds^fail20:45
uvirtbotjpds: Error: "fail" is not a valid command.20:45
phaidros^stupid20:45
uvirtbotphaidros: Error: "stupid" is not a valid command.20:45
* phaidros slaps uvirtbot 20:45
Alex_21!Lol20:45
ubottuPlease don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.20:46
phaidrosrofl20:46
Alex_21!Awesome20:46
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about Awesome20:46
phaidrosAlex_21: didn't you want to google a certain machine type?20:46
Alex_21!Ubuntu20:46
ubottuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com20:46
Alex_21!Google20:47
ubottugoogle is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux20:47
Alex_21Yeah.20:47
Alex_21That is easier for a tech to read next week. The problem was getting a sighted tech to open the machine while it is on the rack20:47
phaidrosAlex_21: thanks for using other peoples time to safe your own ;)20:48
Alex_21So I still need the exact number20:48
Alex_21It is no biggie though20:48
phaidros:p20:48
Alex_21Hey. I can't read it20:48
Alex_21Got a problem with that?20:48
GargoyleAlex_21: 37GB20:49
Alex_21How do you know that?20:50
Alex_21!Trigger20:50
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about Trigger20:50
phaidros4220:50
GargoyleMagic. ESP. A little bird told me... Take your pick!20:51
Alex_21!Blind20:51
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about Blind20:51
Alex_21!Accessibility20:51
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about Accessibility20:51
Alex_21!Access20:51
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about Access20:51
Alex_21!Orca20:52
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about Orca20:52
Alex_21!Deaf20:52
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about Deaf20:52
Alex_21!Disabilities20:52
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about Disabilities20:52
Alex_21!Ignorant20:52
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about Ignorant20:52
GargoyleAlex_21: Must you do that?20:52
Alex_21I'm trying to find accessibility resources for Ubuntu20:53
GargoyleAlex_21: Try google, not an IRC bot!20:53
Alex_21Ok20:53
Alex_21Thanks20:53
GargoyleAlex_21: You can also /msg the bot with !help to find out what it is most useful for!20:54
GargoyleAlex_21: Without flooding the chan.20:54
phaidros+120:55
Alex_21We need #Ubuntu-accessibility20:57
Alex_21#Ubuntu is too crowded for accessibility talk if you are using assitive technology20:58
phaidrosthat's a good proposal20:59
vorianthat would be a proposal you could make in #ubuntu-irc21:01
Alex_21Ok21:05
Alex_21Thanks. I didn't know about #Ubuntu-IRC21:05
voriannot many people do :)21:10
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racecar56hp mediasmart ext475, anyone?21:37
racecar56*ex21:37
Alex_21Thanks for your help21:38
Alex_21God day21:38
Alex_21Lol, ...Sorry21:38
Alex_21Good day21:38
racecar56does anyone here have any experience installing ubuntu server on a hp media(not so)smart ex475?21:38
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RoAkSoAxheya guys, do you think that the proposed solution for this bug is the adequate? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/passenger/+bug/33223822:45
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 332238 in passenger "Building against apache2-prefork-dev would allow mod_php5 cohabitation" [Undecided,Confirmed]22:45
MianoSM!chrt23:23
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MianoSM!taskset23:23
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MianoSM!renice23:23
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MianoSM!worthless bots23:23
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superfirelord42Interesting thing, may not be in the right room for this. I installed ubuntu server edition, cant seem to get the e100 driver working right. Looking through dmesg, i see e100: 0000:01:02.0: can't derive routing for PCI INT A, anyone know what may be going on?23:30
superfirelord42To be sepecific on not working, I cannot get a DHCP lease, and manual routing and configuration does not appear to work either.23:31
geniisuperfirelord42: You may want to try kernel option of pci=routeirq23:33
superfirelord42genii, i just noticed something when i tried to do a dhcp on them all, said try irqpoll, should i try that first?23:33
geniisuperfirelord42: Yes23:34
superfirelord42interesting, boot time slows to a crawl on ata1, something about frozen. IRQ #15 was disabled which I know was one of the NICs, still not booted yet23:38
pygmalionwhat's the fastest way to restore the default config files for postfix and dovecot?23:38
superfirelord42genii, well, good news bad news, good news, i got the DHCP, bad news, it spewed some IRC issues and now is not responsive, rebooting with your pci=routeirq23:42
superfirelord42*IRQ23:42
storrgieI created an array, but when I restart instead of /dev/md0 I get a bunch of funny md devices named like md_d0 and md_d0p123:48
wizardslovakok this is weird , i moved server to other room and turned it on23:51
wizardslovakno i cant connect to it true ssh23:52
wizardslovak"no route to host"23:52
wizardslovakif i ping it it says "destination host unreachable"23:52
superfirelord42wizardslovak, can you ping from it?23:53
wizardslovakno i am pinging it from my laptop(kubuntu)23:53
wizardslovak100% packet loss23:54
wizardslovaki see it on my router tho23:55
wizardslovakok i found it , i plugged into wrong card lol23:59

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