[00:04] <jmarsden> Well, you are still using whatever nameserver is running on 192.168.0.2 -- so dnsmasq is probably still involved?
[00:07] <jmarsden> cellofellow: How hard would it be for you to switch to bind for your local DNS server (the one on 192.168.0.2) and repeat the experiment?
[00:08] <cellofellow> dunno, never used bind
[00:09] <cellofellow> but it seems to have nothing to do with dnsmasq or bind or whathaveyou, but the domain in the resolv.conf
[00:10] <jmarsden> How do you know?  The DNS server you are using is dnsmasq.  And that resolv.conf is fine, and I don't see that issue here using something similar and bind as the DNS server... and you originally stated that the issue was with "dnsmasq and /etc/resolv.conf" ...
[00:12] <jmarsden> You could turn up logging in dnsmasq and see what queries it receives with and without the search and domain entries in resolve.conf, if you want to track it down that way.
[01:52] <ThierryMoisan> hi, I'm setting up my first ubuntu server, it works correctly on the local network but even with a dyndns account pointing on my ip and port fordward, I can't get to connect to my server (but I can ping it)
[01:58] <BrixSat> Hello
[01:58] <BrixSat> How can i force my ubuntu server (gateway) to make local dns queries first then make it on the dns server from my isp?
[01:59] <BrixSat> any help?
[02:01] <jmarsden> BrixSat: You need to configure your local DNS server to use the ISP's DNS as a "forwarder".
[02:02] <BrixSat> well i have done that
[02:02] <BrixSat> but still going to isp
[02:03] <jmarsden> Is /etc/resolv.conf pointing at your local DNS server?
[02:03] <BrixSat> yes but every time i reboot it looses the info
[02:03] <jmarsden> Your server gets its IP address using DHCP?
[02:03] <BrixSat> yes
[02:04] <jmarsden> So every time you reboot it might end up on a different IP address?  That's awkward for servers, usually... there's a way to override the resolve.conf stuff... let me find it...
[02:04] <BrixSat> :)
[02:05] <jmarsden> Can you set the local DHCP server to hand out the option that sets the DNS server to (local IP of your server) ?
[02:06] <BrixSat> i did not understand it
[02:07] <BrixSat> my ubuntu server is acting as a gateway so on one nic modem adsl and on the other nic router's and stuff
[02:08] <Tweakin> anyone care to save the day with my postfix installation?
[02:08] <Tweakin> trying to solve the 'Relay access denied'
[02:11] <BrixSat> no jmarsden no i cant, it is the isp modem wich means it is stupid modem!
[02:11] <jmarsden> OK... there should be a way to override that behaviour, but I'm not finding it right now... I just make servers have static local IPs...
[02:14] <jmarsden> BrixSat: Try the idea at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191239
[02:15] <BrixSat> another question, can i have on the gateway a dns entry www.campingave.net and not passing it to the net? cause i dont want to interfeer with the real site on the hosting server, i want to make like a mirror that everyone inside the network access the local copy and the internet users access the one on the hosting server
[02:16] <jmarsden> BrixSat: Yes, you can make your local DNS server believe it is the master for campingave.net if you want; only systems that do DNS lookups on it will use that info.
[02:16] <BrixSat> thanks ;)
[02:17] <jmarsden> You could also get tricky and have it only hand out its own info on the LAN interface (to local machines) with a view in named.conf, but that's probably not necessary for what you are doing.
[02:17] <BrixSat> ~:)
[02:17] <BrixSat> im going to try the link you give me
[02:17] <jmarsden> Tweakin: How are you wanting SMTP senders to authenticate with your server so they can send email through it?
[02:18] <Tweakin> hmm, not sure on the answer there. TLS?
[02:19] <Tweakin> I followed the Ubuntu Server Guide to get this all setup, so using postfix/dovecot
[02:19] <jmarsden> Sounds like you need to understand what relay denied means before you configre a mail server?
[02:19] <jmarsden> Yes, but how will users that want to send mail identify themselves to your server?
[02:20] <Tweakin> I do understand what it means ;) This is my first ubuntu postfix/dovecot config, I have used Gentoo in the past to setup several others. Gentoo is just getting to hard to maintain.
[02:20] <Tweakin> I was just unsure of the phrasing of your question
[02:20] <jmarsden> Will they all have local unix accounts on the server?  Use LDAP?  Some other database of users in a SQL databases...?
[02:20] <Tweakin> yup, local accounts
[02:20] <jmarsden> TLS has nothing to do with how users authenticate.
[02:21] <jmarsden> OK; did you use the dovecot-postfix package to integrate the two?
[02:21] <Tweakin> Is that what tasksel does when you first install ubuntu server edition? I would assume so.
[02:22] <jmarsden> Which release of Ubuntu Server are you using?
[02:22] <Tweakin> 8.04 LTS
[02:22] <jmarsden> OK, then I don't think it has that package.
[02:23] <jmarsden> I take it postfix works fine other that the user auth stuff... you can send mail from a local shell account on the server just fine, right?
[02:23] <Tweakin> yup, and receiving is working remotely. Just not sending remotely
[02:24] <jmarsden> The options for dovecot auth all changed recently, so looking at my Ubuntu 9.04 setup isn't going to help much...
[02:25] <Tweakin> yeah, I am following the 8.04 server guide
[02:25] <BrixSat> jmarsden :( i have rebooted the network, not working, should i reboot the pc?
[02:26] <jmarsden> BrixSat: Can you pastebin the output of postconf -n so I can see that config, and also /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf (i think that's the right file!)
[02:27] <jmarsden> BrixSat: You "rebooted the network"?  Can you explain what you mean by this?
[02:27] <BrixSat> [jmarsden]: ok :)
[02:28] <jmarsden> BrixSat: OOps, wrong person...
[02:28] <jmarsden> Tweakin: Can you pastebin the output of postconf -n so I can see that config, and also /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf (i think that's the right file!)
[02:28] <Tweakin> jmarsden; pm for the links or here?
[02:28] <jmarsden> Here is fine, they shouldn't have any sensitive info in them.
[02:28] <Tweakin> would rather not want my domain in public (if that is ok)
[02:29] <jmarsden> Oh, OK... PM is fine too.
[02:29] <BrixSat> http://pastebin.com/f4ee395a2
[02:30] <BrixSat> http://pastebin.com/f31220d09
[02:30] <BrixSat> the files you asked :=)
[02:31] <jmarsden> BrixSat: Sorry, I meant Tweakin ... trying to help two people at once here and got confused!  Is your network Ok now?
[02:32] <BrixSat> [jmarsden]: no my network still does not response to local dns queries
[02:33] <jmarsden> BrixSat: Does dig @localhost yahoo.com    # work when done on the server?
[02:33] <jmarsden> Tweakin: Looks sane.  Is dovecot-auth running ?
[02:34] <BrixSat> jmarsden yes it does work|
[02:35] <jmarsden> BrixSat: OK, so you have a working named.  From a workstation does dig @192.168.0.1 yahoo.com  # work, where 192.16.0.1 is the IP of that local Ubuntu server?
[02:35] <BrixSat> well all my other machines are windows i cant test dig :(
[02:35] <Tweakin> jmarsden; dovecot is running, is there a separate -auth daemon?
[02:35] <jmarsden> BrixSat: OK, use nslookup instead...
[02:35] <BrixSat> :)
[02:35] <jmarsden> Tweakin: Yes, there is.
[02:35] <Tweakin> ahh ha
[02:36] <Tweakin> well, that would be a problem
[02:36] <jmarsden> Yes, something has to be listening on that private/auth-client socket so postfix can talk to it :)
[02:37] <jmarsden> The daemon should be called dovecot-auth (unless it changed its name since 8.04...)
[02:37] <Tweakin> hmm, this is my first go with dovecot (i have always used cyrus). How do I get dovecot-auth installing/running?
[02:40] <jmarsden> It should be installed as part of dovecot-common.  It should run, as log as your dovecot.conf file is sane... I think!
[02:40] <jmarsden> Tweakin: is there a file /usr/lib/dovecot/dovecot-auth on your system?
[02:41] <Tweakin> yup
[02:42] <BrixSat> jmarsden http://pastebin.com/m4670e0e3 :) result of nslookup
[02:42] <Tweakin> so perhaps that is not the problem
[02:43] <jmarsden> Tweakin: OK, so it is installed... just not running?  Maybe try /etc/init.d/dovecot restart
[02:44] <jmarsden> BrixSat: So it can't find any info on your domain... does that same lookup work when run on the server itself?
[02:44] <BrixSat> [jmarsden]: yes
[02:46] <genii> Is there some service or site which will run an audit on your server and report problems?
[02:47] <Tweakin> jmarsden; my bad, dovecot-auth is running
[02:47] <BrixSat> genii is the question for me?
[02:47] <genii> BrixSat: No, for the channel
[02:49] <jmarsden> BrixSat: Sounds like your named.conf is not allowing other machines to query that domain... check you have an    allow-query { any; };   in the zone's part of the file?
[02:49] <BrixSat> jmarsden want to see my zone file?
[02:50] <jmarsden> Tweakin: OK... so it is running but not allowing users to authenticate... is there anything of interest in the log files?
[02:50] <BrixSat> jmarsden http://pastebin.com/f37f01f7d
[02:50] <jmarsden> BrixSat: Well, only if you can't debug it yourself :)  OK...
[02:51] <jmarsden> BrixSat: That looks OK, maybe I need your named.conf file?
[02:51] <BrixSat> jmarsden want to see my zone file
[02:51] <jmarsden> genii: It's safer to do that yourself using nessus and similar tools...
[02:52] <jmarsden> BrixSat: I guess so...
[02:52] <BrixSat> jmarsden http://pastebin.com/f1d210e58
[02:53] <genii> jmarsden: I had previously SARA but that box is defunct now
[02:54] <jmarsden> BrixSat: Unless you put it /etc/bind/named.conf.local I don't see where the campingave zonefile is being used?
[02:54] <BrixSat> yes it is in locaL
[02:54] <jmarsden> OK... I suppose now you need to paste *that* :)
[02:54] <BrixSat> jmarsden http://pastebin.com/f3E294F0
[02:55] <jmarsden> BrixSat: That link doesn't work for me... ?
[02:55] <BrixSat> [jmarsden]: sorry http://pastebin.com/f3e3294f0
[02:56] <Tweakin> jmarsden; sent you log file - a few things stick out obviously, nothing i have been able to diagnose
[02:57] <jmarsden> Tweakin: Looks to me like it didn't even try to authenticate?  And the SSL hides all the details from me... if you telnet localhost 25 and ehlo junk do you see the AUTH capability listed?
[02:58] <BrixSat> now something weird just hapened jmarsden, i can access www.campingave.net (hosted site) but all the others like ftp.campingave.net goes to my local site
[02:59] <Tweakin> ehlo has STARTTLS
[02:59] <jmarsden> BrixSat: As I said 10 mins ago, you need an allow-query { any; } ; in there.... see http://pastebin.com/m690b46a5
[03:00] <jmarsden> Tweakin: again, TLs is orthogonal to (has no impact on) how users authenticate... and you said you understood this...?
[03:00] <jmarsden> The AUTH=PLAIN is what matters for auth, and it is there... so it should work...
[03:01] <jmarsden> Can you try connecting using a client that does not use TLS and that does try to authenticate with a username and pw?
[03:02] <BrixSat> no same thing with allow query any :S
[03:02] <jmarsden> BrixSat: Check your log files for anything named related?
[03:05] <Tweakin> jmarsden; i am using both outlook and thunderbird to test with- and attempting each different set of options for outgoing mail with each. user/pass (yes/no), ssl connection (yes/no), etc
[03:05] <Tweakin> no luck
[03:05] <jmarsden> OK, can you pastebin the log from an attempt with user/pass yes and ssl connection no ?
[03:05] <Tweakin> sure
[03:06] <BrixSat> one stupid question, where is bind9 log? i cant find it
[03:10] <jmarsden> BrixSat: /var/log/messages or /var/log/daemon.log I think... I forget what the default log file location for named is!
[03:11] <jmarsden> Tweakin: No sign of any attempt at auth there... strange?
[03:12] <Tweakin> i just turned -v back on in master.cf
[03:12] <Tweakin> let me paste the full beast
[03:13] <jmarsden> OK.  BTW You may want to test auth using telnet, see https://helpdesk.ndchost.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=49 for a quick howto on that.
[03:15] <Tweakin> sent the big log ;)
[03:16] <jmarsden> OK... looking ...
[03:16] <Tweakin> hmm, when attempt AUTH LOGIN via telnet, I get:
[03:16] <Tweakin> "535 5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: Invalid authentication mechanism"
[03:18] <TJUSE> can someone help me >
[03:18] <TJUSE> ?*
[03:18] <jmarsden> Tweakin: Read the EHLO option list again :)  You don't have AUTH LOGIN configured, only AUTH PLAIN
[03:18] <Tweakin> oh duh
[03:18] <Tweakin> ned auth plain heh
[03:18] <TJUSE> i just am messing around. starting using ubuntu server.
[03:18] <jmarsden> Ah.. so that howto was not the best one to give you... my fault!
[03:19] <jmarsden> !ask
[03:19] <TJUSE> and i am trying to access the server remotely without IP
[03:19] <TJUSE> how can i access my server instead of using my IP
[03:20] <jmarsden> TJUSE: Sit at its console and work there?  If you want to use its name, give it a name in the DNS?  I'm not sure what you are really wanting to do?
[03:21] <jmarsden> Remote access to a server without IP means you need some other (non-IP) network to connect to it??
[03:22] <jmarsden> Why can't you use IP to get to your server, it is how the Internet works... IP == Internet Protocol.  Or am I not understanding what you are asking?
[03:22] <BrixSat> well i cant solve it :( but thanks any way jmarsden
[03:22] <TJUSE> i got a DNS domain
[03:22] <TJUSE> well i dont have a static IP
[03:22] <jmarsden> TJUSE: OK, so then you should be able to use the FQDN (full DNS name) of the server instead of its public IP.
[03:22] <TJUSE> so every 3 hours it changes.
[03:23] <TJUSE> and i dont want to have to worry about figuring it out
[03:23] <jmarsden> so you are using a dynamic DNS provider, such as no-ip.org, right?
[03:23] <TJUSE> i am using exactly that.
[03:23] <TJUSE> my registered host is snoopy@hopto.org
[03:24] <TJUSE> and if i telnet or ssh it.
[03:24] <TJUSE> i dont get nothing...
[03:24] <TJUSE> how am i supposed to "tie" my server to the hsot?
[03:24] <TJUSE> host*?
[03:24] <jmarsden> So is your server currently at public IP 204.16.252.112 ?
[03:25] <jmarsden> You use the no-ip client that updates the info in the DNS server...
[03:25] <TJUSE> no its at71.219.116.165
[03:26] <TJUSE> ok.
[03:26] <TJUSE> so i put the client on.
[03:26] <TJUSE> and it shows my current IP?
[03:26] <TJUSE> but how to i terminal to my server?
[03:26] <TJUSE> what do i enter.
[03:26] <jmarsden> Yes it connects to your dynamic DNS provider and updates your info whenever it changes.
[03:26] <TJUSE> cuz before i put "ssh admin@71.219.116.165"
[03:27] <jmarsden> Once you have that working, you can ssh admin@hopto.org
[03:27] <jmarsden> You can use the DNS name instead of the IP address, as we said earlier.
[03:27] <TJUSE> and than login in with my credentials
[03:27] <jmarsden> Yes.
[03:29] <TJUSE> its still not letting me?
[03:29] <TJUSE> 22 refused?
[03:29] <TJUSE> and all my ports are open.
[03:29] <TJUSE> i can ssh with IP just fine.
[03:29] <jmarsden> hopto.org is still pointing at the 204.16.252.112 address... the update is not yet working.
[03:30] <TJUSE> well i have several.
[03:30] <TJUSE> hopto.org
[03:30] <TJUSE> 3utilities.com
[03:30] <jmarsden> get ONE working, forget the rest for now :)
[03:31] <TJUSE> under my host by domain. i have calbert.hopto.org
[03:31] <TJUSE> with 71.219.116.165 as the IP?
[03:31] <TJUSE> according to no-ip.com
[03:32] <jmarsden> OK, so ssh admin@calbert.hopto.org  then :)
[03:33] <TJUSE> port 22 refused.
[03:33] <jmarsden> Tweakin: I have to go afk and eat...
[03:33] <TJUSE> if i type IP or calbert.hopto.org in browser it asks for username and pw
[03:34] <TJUSE> ??? but i never set one.
[03:34] <TJUSE> (please note i am a COMPLETE NOOB)
[03:34] <Tweakin> jmarsden; thanks for your help. No idea on that last log paste?
[03:34] <TJUSE> i am still trying to learn and easiest way to do that is through hands on
[03:34] <jmarsden> TJUSE:  Is your server directly on the Internet?  if not did you forward port 22 (and 80) through the router to your server?
[03:35] <TJUSE> my ports are open
[03:35] <jmarsden> Tweakin: Still looks liek the client did not send any AUTH information, to me.
[03:35] <TJUSE> i can ssh with IP just fine..
[03:35] <jmarsden> I'll be back later...
[03:35] <TJUSE> but not with host.
[03:35] <Tweakin> thanks jmarsden
[03:36] <TJUSE> 443, 22, and 80 are open
[03:38] <TJUSE> shit
[03:38] <TJUSE> now i cant even get on through IP?
[03:38] <TJUSE> my router is saying my ports are open.
[03:38] <TJUSE> but i cannot connect?
[03:45] <poseidon> Anyone know of a good tutorial on setting up ubuntu to be a home server?  I mainly want it to be a central hub for my media
[04:17] <PhotoJim> poseidon: not sure there is a howto, but it's pretty easy to do.  you want to use nfs-server for Linux clients, Samba for Windows, AFS or one of the other two can be used for Macs.  Really pretty easy.
[05:59] <Rafael> can somebody help me with the follwoing, a friend help me with rsync creting the following script: #!/bin/bash and rsync -v -r -d --delete /home/rgotten/Prueba/Myplasticare /home/rgotten/mnt/ >> /home/rgotten/logs/respaldo-`date +%d%m%Y`.log this has being sve to a file ./respaldo-archivos.sh, my question is how do i ron a crontab to do backups at 1am from monday to friday?
[06:50] <jmarsden> Rafael: Read    man 5 crontab   # and especially read the part just after EXAMPLE CRON FILE.   Then do crontab -e  and type in a suitable crontab line, probably    0 1 * * 1-5 /home/rgotten/respaldo-archivos.sh
[09:37] <reenignEesreveR> i wanna setup a file sharing server ... an ungeeky so something better than ftp/samba should do ... is there any "getdropbox.com" like servcie which i may install on my ubuntu machine?
[12:32] <hackeron> hey, I just installed a clean ubuntu server, did apt-get install postgresql - when I try to run /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.3 start - I get: 2009-05-31 12:30:53 BST FATAL:  could not load server certificate file "server.crt": No such file or directory -- any ideas?
[12:40] <aptanet> I've not tried posrgresql mysefl, but have you tried using tasksel install postresql-server ?
[12:41] <aptanet> I don't have a box to check on handy, but that my bring in extra packages / configuration
[12:41] <aptanet> sounds like an ssl problem, is openssl installed?
[12:42] <Blinkiz> Hi. need some help with bridge interface. I want to bring a bridge interface up without having any physical (or virtual) interfaces attached to it. I know how todo it from command prompt but not from boot of OS. Anyone that know what am missing to get the br1 up in manual mode from /etc/network/interfaces?
[12:42] <Blinkiz> Am looking for a command like "ip set link br1 up" in interfaces file.
[12:43] <Blinkiz> bridge interface only starts automatic if I have static ip, dhcp or a interface connected to the bridge.
[12:45] <aptanet> do you have any interfaces configured in /etc/network/interfaces? I assume you must have something
[12:45] <aptanet> if so you could add and 'up' entry to the end of one to run the cli commands you need to bring the interface up
[12:46] <aptanet> for example, after the broadcast entry on one of my boxes I've got
[12:46] <aptanet> up /root/scripts/routes.rul
[12:46] <aptanet> which links to a script to add some custom routes once the interface is up
[12:47] <Blinkiz> aptanet, this is my interfaces file: http://blinkiz.pastebin.com/d5d221d35 . I know want br1 to go up without having eth1 attached to it
[12:47] <Blinkiz> know = now
[12:49] <aptanet> does simply replacing 'manual' with 'auto' do the trick?
[12:50] <Blinkiz> Hmm, maybe.. w8
[12:50] <aptanet> hang on, brain not working!
[12:50] <Blinkiz> nupp, unkown metod
[12:50] <aptanet> that's ip wise, not whether it loads the interface!
[12:51] <Blinkiz> aptanet, So should I just put in "up brctl addbr br1" or what?
[12:53] <aptanet> what are you bridging if there's only a single eth interface?
[12:53] <Blinkiz> aptanet, It will be only virtual interfaces. Its a virtualization server
[12:55] <Blinkiz> A internal network for only virtual machines
[12:55] <aptanet> not technologies I've played with, so I'm just speculating
[12:55] <aptanet> if you don't have eth1 up would you use bridge_ports eth0 ?
[12:56] <Blinkiz> For now anyway. I will have a physical interface attached to the bridge on Thursday or something. Waiting for the server nic card...
[12:57] <Blinkiz> aptanet, problem now is that I would like to get the bridge up at OS boot without having a interface attached to it
[12:58] <Blinkiz> Virtual interfaces will be added when machines are started up after OS boot
[12:58] <Blinkiz> machines = virtual machines, i mean
[12:59] <Blinkiz> I know this is possible! I had a guy in #ubuntu-virt a couple of days ago having the same problem. He solved it somehow by putting something in the interfaces file. Bad for me, I was not logging.
[12:59] <Blinkiz> Oh! Maybe #ubuntu-virt logs exist on the internet somewhere?!? :D
[13:04] <aptanet> http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[13:04] <aptanet> but I don't see it in there
[13:05] <Blinkiz> bummer
[13:05] <aptanet> going back to plan A, if you know the commands you can put them in a bash script and link it from an 'up' for the lo interface perhaps
[13:06] <Blinkiz> aptanet, jepp, am going for that. thanks!
[14:36] <dennister> could anyone else pls help with this postfix/dovecot/sasl authentication issue I'm having?
[17:26] <incorrect> i am trying to set up acl's i've set it so i have rwx and set -R and -d on the directory, however i still can't create a directory up the tree
[17:27] <giovani> incorrect: ls -ld /path/to/dir please
[17:27] <incorrect> ls doesn't show acl's
[17:28] <incorrect> getfacl dir
[17:28] <incorrect> its owned by root and as a different group
[17:28] <giovani> ACLs are totally different
[17:28] <giovani> I didn't see your mention in the original request, sorry
[17:28] <incorrect> no problem
[17:29] <incorrect> default:user:myuser:rwx
[17:29] <incorrect> i can see its there
[17:31] <incorrect> duh  X not x
[17:32] <CarlFK> at some point sudo reboot (and shutdown -r now)  stopped rebooting back to POST/grub and started using something like kexec to reload the current kernel.
[17:32] <CarlFK> how do I get it to reboot such that I can pick a different kernel from grub menu?
[18:21] <FFForever> how can i find out how much space Chris is using?
[18:29] <MianoSM> In his home directory, or on an entire system?
[18:29] <FFForever> home dir
[18:30] <MianoSM> du -sh /home/Chris
[18:30] <MianoSM> That will show you Disk Usage (Summary / Human readable) for the directory /home/Chris
[18:30] <FFForever> awesome
[18:31] <MianoSM> :)
[18:31] <MianoSM> you might want to look up user quata
[18:31] <MianoSM> user quota*
[18:32] <FFForever> MianoSM, i would love to do user quota but i have yet to find a way without making vfs and putting the home dir in them...
[18:33] <MianoSM> I haven't had to implement user quota yet, so I'm not much help beyond reading a man page on it :(
[20:18] <phaidros> which virtualization is everyone here using on servers?
[20:18] <phaidros> I am using xen since > 2 years, rock solid, stable.
[20:18] <phaidros> pity to know ubuntu has dropped xen support ..
[20:18] <Gargoyle> phaidros: I don't use it directly, but my server is a xen virtual machine
[20:19]  * dazman uses Hyper-V as the host for multiple Ubuntu servers.  
[20:19] <dazman> Does that count?  *runs*
[20:19] <Alex_21> Hi, all,
[20:19] <phaidros> phaidros slaps dazman ..
[20:20] <Alex_21> I need to use Zip from the command line to make zips of a folder. How do yyou do this. "$ man zip" does not make sense
[20:20] <Alex_21> What are the sintax?
[20:20] <Alex_21> Please
[20:21] <phaidros> Alex_21: it is dead easy: zip zipfile.zip files to zip /or/path/to/files/*
[20:22] <Alex_21> They are folders though
[20:23] <Alex_21> And those folders contain directories. I don't want to loose the directory structure
[20:23] <phaidros> Alex_21: I don't see the problem
[20:23] <_dennister> hey gang...having a bit of trouble configuring apt-proxy, can anyone help me with backend entries?
[20:23] <Alex_21> I thought it was "$ zip -r "path/to/folder" "zipfile.zip"
[20:23] <dazman> Alex_21: zip -r
[20:24] <phaidros> ah, -r makes sense
[20:24] <dazman> zip -r zipfile.zip dir/
[20:24] <dazman> same as tar... destination zip first
[20:24] <Alex_21> Ok
[20:24] <Alex_21> Thanks
[20:26] <_dennister> dazman: could you help me, pls?
[20:26] <Alex_21> And to install Ubuntu desktop edition for use as a server, which version should I use? I want to have more than four GB of RAM but currently I only have two
[20:27] <Alex_21> So I'm not sure what determins 32 bit from 64 bit and more importantly which one I should install
[20:27] <dazman> Alex_21: To get more than 4GB RAM, you'll need x64 (providing you have an X64 box)
[20:27] <dazman> Alex_21: and you'd probably be better off using Ubuntu-server, surely? :)
[20:28] <dazman> _dennister: just ask the question openly, and see who answers/helps. :)
[20:29] <_dennister> dazman: i do, and no one helps in any of the channels I'm logged into :( not my usual experience, either
[20:29] <_dennister> hey gang...having a bit of trouble configuring apt-proxy, can anyone help me with backend entries?
[20:29] <phaidros> _dennister: that is boviously a meta question ;)
[20:30] <_dennister> i've gotta get this set up before bell starts charging me tons of $ tomorrow
[20:30] <Alex_21> How do I know what my box supports?
[20:30] <phaidros> sry, I have never used apt-proxy yet. but anyways, I can see not question ;)
[20:30] <dazman> Alex_21: It depends on the CPU.
[20:30] <Alex_21> And why is Ubuntu Server better for a desktop system acting as a Server?
[20:31] <Alex_21> How do I know the CPU
[20:31] <dazman> Alex_21: It's not always.
[20:31] <Alex_21> ?
[20:31] <_dennister> trying to import my cache into apt-proxy, but always get this error message: No Packages files available for ubuntu-whatever
[20:31] <dazman> cat /proc/cpuinfo will show you the model.
[20:31] <phaidros> Alex_21: to distinguish between srever and desktop edition: metapackages and kernel are different, slightly, some setting in sysctl maybe
[20:31] <_dennister> dazman: that specific enuf for you? :-)
[20:33] <phaidros> _dennister: this might be a bug: read here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297467
[20:34] <Alex_21> What do I look for
[20:34] <Alex_21> ?
[20:34] <dazman> Model Name
[20:34] <Alex_21> In determining the CPU and whether it is 64 bit compatible?
[20:34] <Alex_21> Please
[20:35] <Alex_21> Here: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          4300  @ 1.80GHz
[20:35] <Alex_21> stepping	: 2
[20:35] <phaidros> _dennister: people seem to recommend apt-cache ..
[20:35] <dazman> Alex_21: Core 2's are x64 yep
[20:37] <Alex_21> So do I get better processor effectiveness or what out of 64 bit OS's
[20:37] <Alex_21> ?
[20:38] <_dennister> phaidros: yes, i'd seen the bug report in the howto, but the howto said it was ok to ignore it :( apt-cache doesn't do as much as I need it to do because of the blasted bell canada's illegal antics
[20:39] <_dennister> but I think the bug report might just have steered me into right/sensible path for a fix
[20:39] <Alex_21> And how do I know how much RAM I can squeeze in this box.
[20:39] <_dennister> thanks; i'll let u know
[20:39] <Alex_21> I need to max it out if possible
[20:39] <phaidros> _dennister: glad I could help
[20:40] <phaidros> Alex_21: the memory limit is determined by the motherboard usually. afaik.
[20:41] <Alex_21> How can I find out what is supported on this puppy?
[20:41] <Alex_21> Please
[20:41] <phaidros> Alex_21: find the boardname (printed on the board) and ask google
[20:42] <phaidros> that I'd do
[20:42] <Alex_21> I can't.
[20:42] <phaidros> so, ask someone who acan
[20:42] <Alex_21> And getting a sighted techie in here is hard at best
[20:42] <phaidros> s/acan/can/
[20:43] <phaidros> sry i don't know any voodoo to determine tha max amount of ram for an unknown motherboard :/
[20:43] <Alex_21> The OS itself doesn't know the motherboard?
[20:43] <phaidros> no.
[20:43] <Alex_21> It found the CPU
[20:43] <Alex_21> Oh
[20:43] <Alex_21> Ok
[20:43] <phaidros> you can maybe find out about the chipsets.
[20:43] <Alex_21> Here is an idea.
[20:44] <Alex_21> I know the Computer model number. I'll just Google that. Silly me.
[20:44] <phaidros> ^^
[20:45] <phaidros> irks
[20:45] <phaidros> sry uvirtbot, din't want to confuse u .. ^^
[20:45] <jpds> ^fail
[20:45] <phaidros> ^stupid
[20:45]  * phaidros slaps uvirtbot 
[20:45] <Alex_21> !Lol
[20:46] <phaidros> rofl
[20:46] <Alex_21> !Awesome
[20:46] <phaidros> Alex_21: didn't you want to google a certain machine type?
[20:46] <Alex_21> !Ubuntu
[20:47] <Alex_21> !Google
[20:47] <Alex_21> Yeah.
[20:47] <Alex_21> That is easier for a tech to read next week. The problem was getting a sighted tech to open the machine while it is on the rack
[20:48] <phaidros> Alex_21: thanks for using other peoples time to safe your own ;)
[20:48] <Alex_21> So I still need the exact number
[20:48] <Alex_21> It is no biggie though
[20:48] <phaidros> :p
[20:48] <Alex_21> Hey. I can't read it
[20:48] <Alex_21> Got a problem with that?
[20:49] <Gargoyle> Alex_21: 37GB
[20:50] <Alex_21> How do you know that?
[20:50] <Alex_21> !Trigger
[20:50] <phaidros> 42
[20:51] <Gargoyle> Magic. ESP. A little bird told me... Take your pick!
[20:51] <Alex_21> !Blind
[20:51] <Alex_21> !Accessibility
[20:51] <Alex_21> !Access
[20:52] <Alex_21> !Orca
[20:52] <Alex_21> !Deaf
[20:52] <Alex_21> !Disabilities
[20:52] <Alex_21> !Ignorant
[20:52] <Gargoyle> Alex_21: Must you do that?
[20:53] <Alex_21> I'm trying to find accessibility resources for Ubuntu
[20:53] <Gargoyle> Alex_21: Try google, not an IRC bot!
[20:53] <Alex_21> Ok
[20:53] <Alex_21> Thanks
[20:54] <Gargoyle> Alex_21: You can also /msg the bot with !help to find out what it is most useful for!
[20:54] <Gargoyle> Alex_21: Without flooding the chan.
[20:55] <phaidros> +1
[20:57] <Alex_21> We need #Ubuntu-accessibility
[20:58] <Alex_21> #Ubuntu is too crowded for accessibility talk if you are using assitive technology
[20:59] <phaidros> that's a good proposal
[21:01] <vorian> that would be a proposal you could make in #ubuntu-irc
[21:05] <Alex_21> Ok
[21:05] <Alex_21> Thanks. I didn't know about #Ubuntu-IRC
[21:10] <vorian> not many people do :)
[21:37] <racecar56> hp mediasmart ext475, anyone?
[21:37] <racecar56> *ex
[21:38] <Alex_21> Thanks for your help
[21:38] <Alex_21> God day
[21:38] <Alex_21> Lol, ...Sorry
[21:38] <Alex_21> Good day
[21:38] <racecar56> does anyone here have any experience installing ubuntu server on a hp media(not so)smart ex475?
[22:45] <RoAkSoAx> heya guys, do you think that the proposed solution for this bug is the adequate? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/passenger/+bug/332238
[23:23] <MianoSM> !chrt
[23:23] <MianoSM> !taskset
[23:23] <MianoSM> !renice
[23:23] <MianoSM> !worthless bots
[23:30] <superfirelord42> Interesting thing, may not be in the right room for this. I installed ubuntu server edition, cant seem to get the e100 driver working right. Looking through dmesg, i see e100: 0000:01:02.0: can't derive routing for PCI INT A, anyone know what may be going on?
[23:31] <superfirelord42> To be sepecific on not working, I cannot get a DHCP lease, and manual routing and configuration does not appear to work either.
[23:33] <genii> superfirelord42: You may want to try kernel option of pci=routeirq
[23:33] <superfirelord42> genii, i just noticed something when i tried to do a dhcp on them all, said try irqpoll, should i try that first?
[23:34] <genii> superfirelord42: Yes
[23:38] <superfirelord42> interesting, boot time slows to a crawl on ata1, something about frozen. IRQ #15 was disabled which I know was one of the NICs, still not booted yet
[23:38] <pygmalion> what's the fastest way to restore the default config files for postfix and dovecot?
[23:42] <superfirelord42> genii, well, good news bad news, good news, i got the DHCP, bad news, it spewed some IRC issues and now is not responsive, rebooting with your pci=routeirq
[23:42] <superfirelord42> *IRQ
[23:48] <storrgie> I created an array, but when I restart instead of /dev/md0 I get a bunch of funny md devices named like md_d0 and md_d0p1
[23:51] <wizardslovak> ok this is weird , i moved server to other room and turned it on
[23:52] <wizardslovak> no i cant connect to it true ssh
[23:52] <wizardslovak> "no route to host"
[23:52] <wizardslovak> if i ping it it says "destination host unreachable"
[23:53] <superfirelord42> wizardslovak, can you ping from it?
[23:53] <wizardslovak> no i am pinging it from my laptop(kubuntu)
[23:54] <wizardslovak> 100% packet loss
[23:55] <wizardslovak> i see it on my router tho
[23:59] <wizardslovak> ok i found it , i plugged into wrong card lol