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stgraberhighvoltage: Hi, I added releasing ltsp-cluster to my todolist for work so you should have it done before the end of the week.01:00
stgrabersbalneav: around ?01:50
sbalneavEvening al03:24
sbalneavstgraber: am no03:24
sbalneavnow03:24
nubaehi sbalneav, wanna give me your opinion on my artwork?03:24
nubaehttp://imagebin.ca/view/5Q_bRqWN.html03:26
nubaehttp://imagebin.ca/view/4ulQXk.html03:27
nubaehttp://imagebin.ca/view/Ty-Cg6M.html03:27
nubaetell me what u hink03:27
nubae*think03:27
nubaesbalneav: ^^^^03:28
sbalneavlooking03:28
nubaedoes it make u laugh03:28
nubae?03:28
nubaebiggest question...03:29
sbalneavRather like the second one.03:29
sbalneavThird one's a cute twist on an old meme.  That definitely has some potential.03:30
nubaeyeah.. polars bears are not lunch03:31
nubaeyeah 3rd one is more unviversal, we were thinking about tying to age groups03:31
nubaeie... to go with package groups, preschool, primary, secondary, tertiary03:32
sbalneavHow many apps from debian-edu are we including?  One of the things I think would be nice to have someone look at would be once the age categories are defined, to find out what apps there are we can package from those age categories.03:35
stgrabersbalneav: you mentioned a patch on ldm for that ssh disconnection thing, is that pushed somewhere ?03:38
sbalneavstgraber: not yet, I've got it at work, I'll push it tomorrow.03:38
sbalneavWas going to do it friday but got tied up with sabayon.03:39
stgraberok, cool. It's a bug I had on my todolist for a while so I'm quite happy to have a fix now ;)03:39
sbalneavNP03:41
sbalneavReally, what we need is a re-write to turn ldm into something with a proper glib main loop, with proper event handling.03:41
sbalneavMy plan is to have something mapped out by october, so we can all hack on getting something implemented during the hackfest in maine :)03:42
stgrabersounds good :)03:49
stgraberhaving ogra's UI would be cool too03:49
sbalneavstgraber: you going to be around tomorrow?03:56
stgraberyes03:57
sbalneavI might prevail upon you and laserjock for some packaging help.03:58
stgraberno problem03:58
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Nubae(05:14:57) Nubae: sbalneav: take a look at this: http://en.opensuse.org/Education/Applications/Desktop04:17
Nubae(05:15:18) Nubae: that hs a nicely defined set of apps under age group/window manager/subject04:17
Nubaemy last pic is with koala einsteing teaching his class of penguins about relativity wjile holding a flask/beaker with a bunch of small penguins in the formation of the atom...04:19
Nubaeand that would then be the set of wallpapers for edubuntu at all age groups04:19
pygiasanchez: I think I know you :p09:31
highvoltagestgraber: excellent, thanks10:21
pygihighvoltage: what did he do? :p10:29
highvoltage02:00 < stgraber> highvoltage: Hi, I added releasing ltsp-cluster to my todolist for work so you should have it done before the end of the week.10:35
highvoltagepygi ^^^10:36
pygi:P10:36
asanchezHi pygi, highvoltage, stgraber11:28
asanchezEverything fine in the go back to home?11:30
highvoltagehey asanchez11:30
highvoltageheh, yes. I ran out of euros and had just 29.50 left. my taxi fare came to a total of 29.60, but the driver said that it's fine11:30
highvoltage*shew*11:30
asanchez10 cents of difference11:31
highvoltageheh, yes. but it does cut it quite close :)11:31
highvoltageasanchez: have you heard of / looked at qimo before?11:31
asanchezno, what's qimo?11:32
asanchezUmmm, interesting, software 4 kids11:34
asanchezWe include TuxType, TuxMath, TuxPaint and GCompris in GuadalinexEdu too11:35
highvoltageyeah. people seem to love qimo but it's not simply installable from ubuntu yet.11:36
highvoltageI think it might be good to get them involved just like guadalinexedu is11:36
highvoltagecould possibly make it easier to solve common problems between the projects11:37
highvoltageasanchez: you said that some of the computers at the schools there are ~7 years old? how much ram do they have?11:37
asanchezYes, I think Edubuntu must include all the benefits of GuadalinexEdu and Qimo4Kids projects11:38
asanchezCeleron 2GHz and 256Mb of RAM are de lowest computers that we mantain in our net11:39
asanchezWe are going to test Jaunty in this computers in a few days11:40
pygihighvoltage: you said you weren't going home?11:40
asanchezpygi, are you at home yet?11:41
highvoltagepygi: well, I'm back in my country at least, will be home in ~2 weeks :)11:44
pygiasanchez: nah, tonight11:44
pygihighvoltage: ah that, yes :)11:45
highvoltageasanchez: ah ok11:45
pygiasanchez: I need to talk to you next week probably :p11:48
pygiI have some upstream-related ideas that you might perhaps somehow be interested in11:49
asanchezpygi, I'll be here11:49
asanchezI have just request to open IRC ports at our corporative network11:49
asanchezso I can connect to IRC at work11:50
asanchezwe have just upload our first patch and put our fisrt package in PPA11:51
asanchezI have to meet my client to ask him to use Launchpad to upload all our code11:53
pygiasanchez: you have a pm :p11:53
sbalneavMorning all14:46
alkisgsbalneav: good morning, did you manage to get debuild to automatically sign your packages so that you don't have to enter your password every time? (looking for the same thing...)14:48
sbalneavalkisg: yes, I installed the gnupg-agent package, and set it up.14:50
alkisgty, looking into it...14:50
sbalneavYou need to enter your password the first time you do a build, but subsequant times, it picks it up from the agent.14:50
alkisgI do have the package installed, but I didn't know that it could help there, so I don't have it configured14:51
alkisgsbalneav: so it's something like the seahorse-preferences? "Remember passphrases for 300 minutes"14:54
alkisgOr better, "Always remember passphrases whenever logged in"14:55
sbalneavSomething like that, yeah.  You'd have to look in the preferences.14:55
sbalneavI just got it working and moved on :)14:55
alkisgHeh ok, ty14:55
stgrabersbalneav: awake this early ? :)14:56
alkisgGot it - seahorse-preferences works out of the box, no installation needed.14:57
sbalneavstgraber: at work this early.  Wish I was back at the cottage :)14:58
stgrabersbalneav: hehe but you wouldn't have internet there ;)14:58
sbalneavstgraber: the older I get, the more I find I'd be perfectly willing to live without it :)15:02
sbalneavSo, here's a question.  Thinking about ldap support.15:09
sbalneavI'd like to create a package that:15:10
sbalneav1) Depends on slapd15:10
sbalneavPre-depends, actually15:10
sbalneav2) packages a single shell or python script that creates an "initial" ldap layout15:11
sbalneav(probably installed in /usr/share/ somewhere I'd expect)15:11
sbalneavand (3) may (or may not, according to policy) call this shell script as part of a postinst.15:12
sbalneavthe idea being that teachers who want a fast start to an ldap server can simply install this package, answer a few questions (slapd ones, mostly) and have a "ready to roll" ldap server they can start adding users to.15:13
sbalneavcan anyone give me a pointer to a debian/ dir that might accomplish something like this, or give me any pointers as to how to go about this?  I'm not too bad at modifying existing packages, but creation from scratch leaves me kind of stymied.15:14
asanchezHola nubae16:16
nubaehi asanchez16:16
asanchezHi everybody16:16
asanchezare you still interested in find a job in Spain?16:16
nubaeI am yes16:34
asanchezWe are looking for new people for our project http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CGA_(Advanced_Management_Centre)16:45
nubaepues de verdad me interesa eso mogollon...16:56
nubaedonde tendria que estar fisicamente localisado?16:57
nubaey me podrias dar un contacto donde puedo mandar mi CV?16:57
nubaeComo a la mejor acuerdas, soy el mantenedor de el sistema Sugar bajo openSUSE, y probablemente hare lo mismo para ubuntu... tambien he creado el sistema fat client para LTSP bajo Ubuntu. Tengo experiencia trabajando para una escuela Britanica en el sur de Espana (Marbella), donde pudimos instalar LTSP, edubuntu, LDAP, Moodle, y sistemas abiertos que van bien con Linux en general17:00
nubaeDesde un punto de vista de deployments, podria ayudar bastante, ya que tengo la experiencia en el lado del consumidor tanto como en el lado de desarollador17:01
asanchezte voy a dejar mi correo electronico para que me pases tu CV17:01
asanchezestamos físicamente en Sevilla17:01
nubaevale, muy bien...17:01
asanchezte lo paso por PM17:01
nubaeok17:01
alkisgSo... nubae... 3 languages???!!! Or even more? :)17:21
nubae6 actually :-)17:22
alkisgWoah!17:22
nubaeyeah, coming from Belgium we automatically learn 4, so its really just an extra 217:23
alkisgReally internationalized... :)17:23
alkisgThat would be German, English, French, Spanish, and ?17:23
nubaeDutch and Portuguese17:23
alkisgI'd mess it all up with so many languages. I even mess up with computer languages, not natural... :P17:24
nubaewell, I don't speak any of them perfectly, and no one can tell where I am from17:25
alkisgHeh17:25
bencrisford'Ullo Everyone17:59
sbalneavHello bencrisford18:28
bencrisfordTheres a gcompris bug that doesn't look too tricky to fix18:41
bencrisfordi might give it a go :)18:41
nubaehi bencrisford18:50
nubaego for it... I'm sure you'll get lots of help, which bug is it?18:50
bencrisfordits turning out to be not as much of a bug as it seemed nubae :P, but ill still take a look18:51
bencrisfordit'll be my first non-documentation bug to fix18:51
bencrisfordso the pressures on18:51
bencrisford:) :P18:51
bencrisfordHmm, when doing apt-get source i got a gpg error19:16
LnsWanted to show you all a poster I made last week for Edubuntu.. let me know what you think. http://logicalnetworking.net/other/edubuntuposter.png19:19
bencrisfordLns: Nice :D!19:20
bencrisfordwhat I would do, as a finishing touch - you can see a few white pixels around the logo19:20
Lnsbencrisford: thanks19:20
nubaeLns: I did 3 wallpapers for edubuntu...19:20
nubaeu wanna see?19:20
Lnsnubae: sure!19:20
Lnsbencrisford: yeah, I need to touch up that logo19:21
bencrisfordso I would get the logo with the transparent background19:21
bencrisfordoff the wiki19:21
bencrisfordnubae: I made a poster last week if you havent seen it yet ill get a link19:21
Lnsinkscape is so cool =)19:21
nubaeit is indeed, I love that program19:21
nubaehttp://imagebin.ca/view/fCQJGvd.html19:21
bencrisfordnubae:  http://bencrisford.exofire.net/poster-temp1.pdf - its unfinished and messy, but y'know, it might be half decent when its done.  I was really pleased with my footer :D19:22
nubaeI changed the physics text to an actual formula that newton found for gravity, should be a little inside joke for those in the know...19:22
nubaebencrisford: lol19:23
bencrisfordcrap! its my ubuntu membership meeting tommorrow :( :S19:23
Lnsnubae: nice =)19:27
nubaeLns: and this one, but I'm taking out the tag line: http://imagebin.ca/view/uq4fbyiF.html19:48
Lnsnubae: =D nice!19:48
Lnsthat's awesome.19:48
sbalneavHmmm, wonder what the ldapsearch query parameter is for looking for UNSET values19:54
sbalneavi.e. I can search "(ou=blah)" just fine, but "(ou=)" or "(ou='')" doesn't work.19:55
sbalneavgotta look that one up19:55
highvoltagebencrisford: did you find all the document patching info you needed? judging by the bug reports it seems like you did?20:34
bencrisfordyeah I did :), laserjock and mdke helped20:35
bencrisfordhighvoltage: ^20:35
bencrisfordhighvoltage: Now i'm working on a proper bug, in gcompris20:35
bencrisfordbrb20:36
highvoltagecool, I wonder where that LaserJock is20:37
bencrisfordhighvoltage: Probably working on his PhD?  Not good enough IMO, he calls that an excuse....21:01
sbalneavI'd rather see him work on that than edubuntu.  An education's important, and the most highest-returning investment you'll ever make in your life.21:06
Lnssbalneav: unless you get hit by a bus the next day. ;)21:08
* Lns retracts his last statement to not throw bad karma LaserJocks way21:09
sbalneavWell, you know what Charled de Gaulle said about that...21:11
Lnsnope21:11
sbalneaveurgh.  I'm having a hard time finding any packaging examples for things that DON'T require a compile.21:15
sbalneavGonna have to find a package that just consists of a few shell scripts.21:16
sbalneavanyone got any suggestions of "non compile" packages I can look at?21:18
nubaetry taking a look at the sugar packages21:19
nubaemost of those dont require compiliation.. just putting of files in relevant places21:20
nubaepython based21:20
nubaehttp://git.sugarlabs.org/search?q=*ubuntu*21:20
sbalneavThx21:20
nubaeshould show some usable examples21:21
nubaethe activities are the simplest21:21
alkisgsbalneav: I used update-motd as a template for my ltsp administration scripts package. It's small.21:42
bencrisfordsbalneav: Lol, I do totally agree that LaserJock's phd is so, So, SO much more important than edubuntu.  I was just joking ;)22:05

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