[01:00] <stgraber> highvoltage: Hi, I added releasing ltsp-cluster to my todolist for work so you should have it done before the end of the week.
[01:50] <stgraber> sbalneav: around ?
[03:24] <sbalneav> Evening al
[03:24] <sbalneav> stgraber: am no
[03:24] <sbalneav> now
[03:24] <nubae> hi sbalneav, wanna give me your opinion on my artwork?
[03:26] <nubae> http://imagebin.ca/view/5Q_bRqWN.html
[03:27] <nubae> http://imagebin.ca/view/4ulQXk.html
[03:27] <nubae> http://imagebin.ca/view/Ty-Cg6M.html
[03:27] <nubae> tell me what u hink
[03:27] <nubae> *think
[03:28] <nubae> sbalneav: ^^^^
[03:28] <sbalneav> looking
[03:28] <nubae> does it make u laugh
[03:28] <nubae> ?
[03:29] <nubae> biggest question...
[03:29] <sbalneav> Rather like the second one.
[03:30] <sbalneav> Third one's a cute twist on an old meme.  That definitely has some potential.
[03:31] <nubae> yeah.. polars bears are not lunch
[03:31] <nubae> yeah 3rd one is more unviversal, we were thinking about tying to age groups
[03:32] <nubae> ie... to go with package groups, preschool, primary, secondary, tertiary
[03:35] <sbalneav> How many apps from debian-edu are we including?  One of the things I think would be nice to have someone look at would be once the age categories are defined, to find out what apps there are we can package from those age categories.
[03:38] <stgraber> sbalneav: you mentioned a patch on ldm for that ssh disconnection thing, is that pushed somewhere ?
[03:38] <sbalneav> stgraber: not yet, I've got it at work, I'll push it tomorrow.
[03:39] <sbalneav> Was going to do it friday but got tied up with sabayon.
[03:39] <stgraber> ok, cool. It's a bug I had on my todolist for a while so I'm quite happy to have a fix now ;)
[03:41] <sbalneav> NP
[03:41] <sbalneav> Really, what we need is a re-write to turn ldm into something with a proper glib main loop, with proper event handling.
[03:42] <sbalneav> My plan is to have something mapped out by october, so we can all hack on getting something implemented during the hackfest in maine :)
[03:49] <stgraber> sounds good :)
[03:49] <stgraber> having ogra's UI would be cool too
[03:56] <sbalneav> stgraber: you going to be around tomorrow?
[03:57] <stgraber> yes
[03:58] <sbalneav> I might prevail upon you and laserjock for some packaging help.
[03:58] <stgraber> no problem
[04:17] <Nubae> (05:14:57) Nubae: sbalneav: take a look at this: http://en.opensuse.org/Education/Applications/Desktop
[04:17] <Nubae> (05:15:18) Nubae: that hs a nicely defined set of apps under age group/window manager/subject
[04:19] <Nubae> my last pic is with koala einsteing teaching his class of penguins about relativity wjile holding a flask/beaker with a bunch of small penguins in the formation of the atom...
[04:19] <Nubae> and that would then be the set of wallpapers for edubuntu at all age groups
[09:31] <pygi> asanchez: I think I know you :p
[10:21] <highvoltage> stgraber: excellent, thanks
[10:29] <pygi> highvoltage: what did he do? :p
[10:35] <highvoltage> 02:00 < stgraber> highvoltage: Hi, I added releasing ltsp-cluster to my todolist for work so you should have it done before the end of the week.
[10:36] <highvoltage> pygi ^^^
[10:36] <pygi> :P
[11:28] <asanchez> Hi pygi, highvoltage, stgraber
[11:30] <asanchez> Everything fine in the go back to home?
[11:30] <highvoltage> hey asanchez
[11:30] <highvoltage> heh, yes. I ran out of euros and had just 29.50 left. my taxi fare came to a total of 29.60, but the driver said that it's fine
[11:30] <highvoltage> *shew*
[11:31] <asanchez> 10 cents of difference
[11:31] <highvoltage> heh, yes. but it does cut it quite close :)
[11:31] <highvoltage> asanchez: have you heard of / looked at qimo before?
[11:32] <asanchez> no, what's qimo?
[11:34] <asanchez> Ummm, interesting, software 4 kids
[11:35] <asanchez> We include TuxType, TuxMath, TuxPaint and GCompris in GuadalinexEdu too
[11:36] <highvoltage> yeah. people seem to love qimo but it's not simply installable from ubuntu yet.
[11:36] <highvoltage> I think it might be good to get them involved just like guadalinexedu is
[11:37] <highvoltage> could possibly make it easier to solve common problems between the projects
[11:37] <highvoltage> asanchez: you said that some of the computers at the schools there are ~7 years old? how much ram do they have?
[11:38] <asanchez> Yes, I think Edubuntu must include all the benefits of GuadalinexEdu and Qimo4Kids projects
[11:39] <asanchez> Celeron 2GHz and 256Mb of RAM are de lowest computers that we mantain in our net
[11:40] <asanchez> We are going to test Jaunty in this computers in a few days
[11:40] <pygi> highvoltage: you said you weren't going home?
[11:41] <asanchez> pygi, are you at home yet?
[11:44] <highvoltage> pygi: well, I'm back in my country at least, will be home in ~2 weeks :)
[11:44] <pygi> asanchez: nah, tonight
[11:45] <pygi> highvoltage: ah that, yes :)
[11:45] <highvoltage> asanchez: ah ok
[11:48] <pygi> asanchez: I need to talk to you next week probably :p
[11:49] <pygi> I have some upstream-related ideas that you might perhaps somehow be interested in
[11:49] <asanchez> pygi, I'll be here
[11:49] <asanchez> I have just request to open IRC ports at our corporative network
[11:50] <asanchez> so I can connect to IRC at work
[11:51] <asanchez> we have just upload our first patch and put our fisrt package in PPA
[11:53] <asanchez> I have to meet my client to ask him to use Launchpad to upload all our code
[11:53] <pygi> asanchez: you have a pm :p
[14:46] <sbalneav> Morning all
[14:48] <alkisg> sbalneav: good morning, did you manage to get debuild to automatically sign your packages so that you don't have to enter your password every time? (looking for the same thing...)
[14:50] <sbalneav> alkisg: yes, I installed the gnupg-agent package, and set it up.
[14:50] <alkisg> ty, looking into it...
[14:50] <sbalneav> You need to enter your password the first time you do a build, but subsequant times, it picks it up from the agent.
[14:51] <alkisg> I do have the package installed, but I didn't know that it could help there, so I don't have it configured
[14:54] <alkisg> sbalneav: so it's something like the seahorse-preferences? "Remember passphrases for 300 minutes"
[14:55] <alkisg> Or better, "Always remember passphrases whenever logged in"
[14:55] <sbalneav> Something like that, yeah.  You'd have to look in the preferences.
[14:55] <sbalneav> I just got it working and moved on :)
[14:55] <alkisg> Heh ok, ty
[14:56] <stgraber> sbalneav: awake this early ? :)
[14:57] <alkisg> Got it - seahorse-preferences works out of the box, no installation needed.
[14:58] <sbalneav> stgraber: at work this early.  Wish I was back at the cottage :)
[14:58] <stgraber> sbalneav: hehe but you wouldn't have internet there ;)
[15:02] <sbalneav> stgraber: the older I get, the more I find I'd be perfectly willing to live without it :)
[15:09] <sbalneav> So, here's a question.  Thinking about ldap support.
[15:10] <sbalneav> I'd like to create a package that:
[15:10] <sbalneav> 1) Depends on slapd
[15:10] <sbalneav> Pre-depends, actually
[15:11] <sbalneav> 2) packages a single shell or python script that creates an "initial" ldap layout
[15:11] <sbalneav> (probably installed in /usr/share/ somewhere I'd expect)
[15:12] <sbalneav> and (3) may (or may not, according to policy) call this shell script as part of a postinst.
[15:13] <sbalneav> the idea being that teachers who want a fast start to an ldap server can simply install this package, answer a few questions (slapd ones, mostly) and have a "ready to roll" ldap server they can start adding users to.
[15:14] <sbalneav> can anyone give me a pointer to a debian/ dir that might accomplish something like this, or give me any pointers as to how to go about this?  I'm not too bad at modifying existing packages, but creation from scratch leaves me kind of stymied.
[16:16] <asanchez> Hola nubae
[16:16] <nubae> hi asanchez
[16:16] <asanchez> Hi everybody
[16:16] <asanchez> are you still interested in find a job in Spain?
[16:34] <nubae> I am yes
[16:45] <asanchez> We are looking for new people for our project http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CGA_(Advanced_Management_Centre)
[16:56] <nubae> pues de verdad me interesa eso mogollon...
[16:57] <nubae> donde tendria que estar fisicamente localisado?
[16:57] <nubae> y me podrias dar un contacto donde puedo mandar mi CV?
[17:00] <nubae> Como a la mejor acuerdas, soy el mantenedor de el sistema Sugar bajo openSUSE, y probablemente hare lo mismo para ubuntu... tambien he creado el sistema fat client para LTSP bajo Ubuntu. Tengo experiencia trabajando para una escuela Britanica en el sur de Espana (Marbella), donde pudimos instalar LTSP, edubuntu, LDAP, Moodle, y sistemas abiertos que van bien con Linux en general
[17:01] <nubae> Desde un punto de vista de deployments, podria ayudar bastante, ya que tengo la experiencia en el lado del consumidor tanto como en el lado de desarollador
[17:01] <asanchez> te voy a dejar mi correo electronico para que me pases tu CV
[17:01] <asanchez> estamos físicamente en Sevilla
[17:01] <nubae> vale, muy bien...
[17:01] <asanchez> te lo paso por PM
[17:01] <nubae> ok
[17:21] <alkisg> So... nubae... 3 languages???!!! Or even more? :)
[17:22] <nubae> 6 actually :-)
[17:22] <alkisg> Woah!
[17:23] <nubae> yeah, coming from Belgium we automatically learn 4, so its really just an extra 2
[17:23] <alkisg> Really internationalized... :)
[17:23] <alkisg> That would be German, English, French, Spanish, and ?
[17:23] <nubae> Dutch and Portuguese
[17:24] <alkisg> I'd mess it all up with so many languages. I even mess up with computer languages, not natural... :P
[17:25] <nubae> well, I don't speak any of them perfectly, and no one can tell where I am from
[17:25] <alkisg> Heh
[17:59] <bencrisford> 'Ullo Everyone
[18:28] <sbalneav> Hello bencrisford
[18:41] <bencrisford> Theres a gcompris bug that doesn't look too tricky to fix
[18:41] <bencrisford> i might give it a go :)
[18:50] <nubae> hi bencrisford
[18:50] <nubae> go for it... I'm sure you'll get lots of help, which bug is it?
[18:51] <bencrisford> its turning out to be not as much of a bug as it seemed nubae :P, but ill still take a look
[18:51] <bencrisford> it'll be my first non-documentation bug to fix
[18:51] <bencrisford> so the pressures on
[18:51] <bencrisford> :) :P
[19:16] <bencrisford> Hmm, when doing apt-get source i got a gpg error
[19:19] <Lns> Wanted to show you all a poster I made last week for Edubuntu.. let me know what you think. http://logicalnetworking.net/other/edubuntuposter.png
[19:20] <bencrisford> Lns: Nice :D!
[19:20] <bencrisford> what I would do, as a finishing touch - you can see a few white pixels around the logo
[19:20] <Lns> bencrisford: thanks
[19:20] <nubae> Lns: I did 3 wallpapers for edubuntu...
[19:20] <nubae> u wanna see?
[19:20] <Lns> nubae: sure!
[19:21] <Lns> bencrisford: yeah, I need to touch up that logo
[19:21] <bencrisford> so I would get the logo with the transparent background
[19:21] <bencrisford> off the wiki
[19:21] <bencrisford> nubae: I made a poster last week if you havent seen it yet ill get a link
[19:21] <Lns> inkscape is so cool =)
[19:21] <nubae> it is indeed, I love that program
[19:21] <nubae> http://imagebin.ca/view/fCQJGvd.html
[19:22] <bencrisford> nubae:  http://bencrisford.exofire.net/poster-temp1.pdf - its unfinished and messy, but y'know, it might be half decent when its done.  I was really pleased with my footer :D
[19:22] <nubae> I changed the physics text to an actual formula that newton found for gravity, should be a little inside joke for those in the know...
[19:23] <nubae> bencrisford: lol
[19:23] <bencrisford> crap! its my ubuntu membership meeting tommorrow :( :S
[19:27] <Lns> nubae: nice =)
[19:48] <nubae> Lns: and this one, but I'm taking out the tag line: http://imagebin.ca/view/uq4fbyiF.html
[19:48] <Lns> nubae: =D nice!
[19:48] <Lns> that's awesome.
[19:54] <sbalneav> Hmmm, wonder what the ldapsearch query parameter is for looking for UNSET values
[19:55] <sbalneav> i.e. I can search "(ou=blah)" just fine, but "(ou=)" or "(ou='')" doesn't work.
[19:55] <sbalneav> gotta look that one up
[20:34] <highvoltage> bencrisford: did you find all the document patching info you needed? judging by the bug reports it seems like you did?
[20:35] <bencrisford> yeah I did :), laserjock and mdke helped
[20:35] <bencrisford> highvoltage: ^
[20:35] <bencrisford> highvoltage: Now i'm working on a proper bug, in gcompris
[20:36] <bencrisford> brb
[20:37] <highvoltage> cool, I wonder where that LaserJock is
[21:01] <bencrisford> highvoltage: Probably working on his PhD?  Not good enough IMO, he calls that an excuse....
[21:06] <sbalneav> I'd rather see him work on that than edubuntu.  An education's important, and the most highest-returning investment you'll ever make in your life.
[21:08] <Lns> sbalneav: unless you get hit by a bus the next day. ;)
[21:09]  * Lns retracts his last statement to not throw bad karma LaserJocks way
[21:11] <sbalneav> Well, you know what Charled de Gaulle said about that...
[21:11] <Lns> nope
[21:15] <sbalneav> eurgh.  I'm having a hard time finding any packaging examples for things that DON'T require a compile.
[21:16] <sbalneav> Gonna have to find a package that just consists of a few shell scripts.
[21:18] <sbalneav> anyone got any suggestions of "non compile" packages I can look at?
[21:19] <nubae> try taking a look at the sugar packages
[21:20] <nubae> most of those dont require compiliation.. just putting of files in relevant places
[21:20] <nubae> python based
[21:20] <nubae> http://git.sugarlabs.org/search?q=*ubuntu*
[21:20] <sbalneav> Thx
[21:21] <nubae> should show some usable examples
[21:21] <nubae> the activities are the simplest
[21:42] <alkisg> sbalneav: I used update-motd as a template for my ltsp administration scripts package. It's small.
[22:05] <bencrisford> sbalneav: Lol, I do totally agree that LaserJock's phd is so, So, SO much more important than edubuntu.  I was just joking ;)