javaJake | Is it possible for someone to move a few projects to some new names? | 02:18 |
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javaJake | Specifically, gentoo-pandora-portage should be gentoo-pandora-overlay, gentoo-pandora-repository should be gentoo-pandora-portage-binaries, and gentoo-arm-pandora should be called gentoo-pandora-toolbox. | 02:22 |
spm | javaJake: yup. create a question via answers against the LP project itself; and I'll make it so for you. https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion - just ping me back with the resulting Q# | 02:25 |
javaJake | OK, sounds good! | 02:25 |
javaJake | Q#: 72840 | 02:30 |
javaJake | Direct link: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/72840 | 02:30 |
spm | javaJake: "fun2program8"!?!?!? lol :-D | 02:37 |
javaJake | Huh? :P | 02:37 |
javaJake | fun2program is obvious, and 8 is my favorite number. I don't know if you read anything else out of it. :) | 02:38 |
spm | javaJake: all done. have created aliases for the old names, so they'll still work as well. | 02:41 |
javaJake | Wow, awesome! | 02:41 |
javaJake | That's... brilliant | 02:41 |
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javaJake | Thanks spm :) | 02:43 |
spm | np! | 02:43 |
Peng_ | What's the LP review system's equivalent to Bundle Buggy's "bb:tweak"? "needs fixing" or "approve"? | 02:51 |
lifeless | I don't know | 02:58 |
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beuno | Peng_, there is one called "Needs info" which will land soon | 03:28 |
lifeless | beuno: that seems rather different | 03:36 |
lifeless | beuno: tweak is 'make a change, then you can land' | 03:36 |
lifeless | beuno: it specifically avoids additional review round trips | 03:36 |
beuno | lifeless, right. I guess we use "approve" and just comment the change requested | 03:40 |
lifeless | beuno: I think that is less clear | 03:41 |
lifeless | beuno: specifically, someone else coming along to land (e.g. a landing robot) will DTWT there | 03:41 |
overshard | I'm getting this error, http://pastebin.com/m296d284a , while trying to use my own website, isaacbythewood.com , to identify myself with openid. :( | 03:50 |
overshard | It doesn't make any sense. | 03:50 |
lifeless | overshard: currently launchpad will only accept launchpad as an identifying party | 03:53 |
lifeless | overshard: we are working on making it accept any openid provider but that work isn't complete yet | 03:53 |
lifeless | overshard: alternatively, there may be a bug where we don't permit soemthing that should be permitted | 03:54 |
lifeless | overshard: either way, can I encourage you to file a bug on launchpad; the openid folk will be interested either way | 03:55 |
tansell | do we have Launchpad developers returning today? | 04:54 |
spm | for values of today subject to TZ, yes | 04:54 |
tansell | I'm hoping to get a fix for - https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/69460 | 05:01 |
spm | tansell: cool. have increased to 5. so you should be able to ditch the extras you created, if'n'when you're ready. | 05:04 |
tansell | spm, thanks! | 05:04 |
tansell | I can finally upload a new version :) | 05:05 |
spm | heh | 05:05 |
tansell | picked a bad couple of weeks to finally have success in this packaging | 05:06 |
tansell | ahh well | 05:07 |
tansell | it's amazing that 27mb of code turns into >1G of binaries | 05:08 |
spm | tansell: we deliberately scheduled allhands and UDS just to inconvenice yourself. ;-) | 05:09 |
tansell | spm, how was it? | 05:09 |
spm | AH? awesome. to finally meet these people I work with! | 05:10 |
spm | UDS I was only there for 2.5 days - more for a LOSA mini sprint than UDS itself. So was also excellent, but in a different way. | 05:11 |
tansell | LOSA? | 05:11 |
lifeless | spm | 05:11 |
spm | Legendry Operational System Admin ;-) | 05:11 |
* lifeless hands spm a dictionary | 05:12 | |
spm | sperlling is for weenies | 05:12 |
spm | tansell: https://edge.launchpad.net/~canonical-losas | 05:13 |
spm | the 'L' is getting a tad overloaded this days. As it now stands for: Launchpad, Landscape, Ubuntu One and a few other systems. Hence my suggestion of Legendry. | 05:14 |
lifeless | spm: Loverly | 05:14 |
spm | lifeless: hmmm. -1 from me. Has "nice ness" connotations. And we have BOFH reputations to maintain. So... ;-) | 05:15 |
lifeless | :) | 05:16 |
* lifeless prepares to spread the meme | 05:16 | |
spm | LOL! | 05:16 |
aaditya | support request | 05:31 |
jmarsden | !ask | 05:31 |
ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) | 05:31 |
aaditya | Someone else has a user ID I want. They don't use their account. Could you shift it to me? | 05:32 |
aaditya | https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/323 | 05:32 |
aaditya | admins? | 05:34 |
aaditya | operators? | 05:34 |
aaditya | staff members? | 05:34 |
lifeless | https://help.launchpad.net/Feedback | 05:38 |
lifeless | .. Post a question: We use Launchpad Answers, and you can discuss pretty much anything Launchpad-related by asking a question. | 05:38 |
aaditya | lifeless: thanks | 06:00 |
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tansell | how does one delete a ppa? | 11:14 |
noodles | tansell: you can mark packages deleted yourself (as you're probably aware), but to delete/disable the actual PPA, please add a request like this one: | 11:22 |
noodles | https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/67142 | 11:22 |
Warbo | Hello. Does Launchpad make PPA details available in a machine readable form at all (RDF, plain text etc.)? | 11:28 |
noodles | Hi Warbo, you can get any PPA for a person via the api... more details here if it helps: | 11:31 |
noodles | https://edge.launchpad.net/+apidoc/#person-getPPAByName | 11:31 |
Warbo | Thanks, but I was after more complete PPA info, like suported releases, binary and source contents, deb and deb-src lines, etc. I can't find anything in the API or launchpadlib, and was hoping not to screen scrape/guess from the contents | 11:33 |
persia | Warbo, I'm not sure there's any way for PPA owners to store some of that. Binary and Source contents are available from ppa.launchpad.net (as Packages.gz and Sources.gz). | 11:34 |
Warbo | I'm making a tool which generates sources.list files and makes packages of them, so that every PPA could be enabled by installing its package | 11:34 |
persia | deb and deb-src lines can be computed. | 11:35 |
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pan1nx | how do you change a project's VCS location | 12:44 |
pan1nx | I am with libdc1394 and we have switched from SVN to GIT but the vcs-imports is still on the SVN | 12:44 |
kiko | pan1nx, you just register a new import for the project | 12:47 |
kiko | we'll sort out the rest | 12:47 |
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loic-m | When I set a bug status to Confirmed in Ubuntu, but there's a remote watch whose status is New, how come the staus isn't set to Confirmed here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-universe-sponsors ? | 13:09 |
loic-m | f.e. https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/soundconverter/+bug/335739 | 13:10 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 335739 in soundconverter "Please upgrade to soundconverter 1.4.3" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 13:10 |
wgrant | loic-m: Remote watches take their status from the remote bug that they're watching. | 13:10 |
wgrant | Heh, that's my package! I've been a bit busy lately :( | 13:10 |
loic-m | wgrant: bug has been opened for a while though :P | 13:12 |
loic-m | wgrant: and last release was from somebody else... | 13:13 |
wgrant | loic-m: It was, yes. I knew I couldn't do it for Jaunty, as it was too late, and didn't find it important enough for Karmic yet. | 13:14 |
loic-m | wgrant: but indeed you're there a lot in the changelog ! | 13:14 |
loic-m | k | 13:14 |
wgrant | I maintain it in Debian, so yeah. | 13:14 |
loic-m | I just noticed ;) | 13:15 |
loic-m | rmadison -u debian soundconverter isnt't that nice though, people in Debian might get sad | 13:15 |
wgrant | Uni finished last week, so I should be able to fix everything up in Debian and sync in a week or two. | 13:15 |
loic-m | Well, I just keep upgrading long-standing bugs, just to get them hang on the waiting list till the Debian packager wakes up... | 13:16 |
wgrant | I am awake now. | 13:17 |
loic-m | Doesn't help now... | 13:17 |
wgrant | Indeed. Sorry. | 13:17 |
loic-m | You're welcome. | 13:18 |
RockyRoad | Hi :) | 13:19 |
RockyRoad | I tried to answer a blueprint feedback request, but where I expected a form to enter some text, I was redirected to the blueprint page, where the feedback request had then disappeared. What did I miss ? | 13:22 |
RockyRoad | Is there a way to retrieve the feedback request text ? | 13:27 |
loic-m | Anyway, is there a way to make Confirmed bugs appear as Confirmed? | 13:31 |
persia | loic-m, How do you mean? In remote bug trackers? You'd have to adjust the status there. | 13:32 |
loic-m | nope, in https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-universe-sponsors | 13:33 |
pan1nx | kiko, how do you register a new import for the project? | 13:33 |
loic-m | persia: status is New even though it's Confirmed in the bug report | 13:34 |
persia | loic-m, Check which project the bug is against. I don't know of any way to view that list for only a single project. | 13:34 |
andrea-bs | loic-m, bug 177520 | 13:34 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 177520 in blueprint ""Give feedback" is confusing and loses data" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177520 | 13:34 |
persia | RockyRoad, ^^ | 13:35 |
andrea-bs | oops, wrong person :) | 13:35 |
RockyRoad | thanks persia :) | 13:35 |
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loic-m | persia: for example https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/soundconverter/+bug/335739 confirmed in Ubuntu, appears as "New" | 13:36 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 335739 in soundconverter "Please upgrade to soundconverter 1.4.3" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 13:36 |
loic-m | persia: I don't understand | 13:36 |
loic-m | persia: while other bugs with remote watch also New, but Confirmed in Ubuntu appear as "Confirmed" on the uus page, others don't. It's really confusing | 13:37 |
wgrant | loic-m: That's because remote watches have an importance of Unknown, which happens to sort before all of the proper statuses. | 13:37 |
wgrant | loic-m: If you look further down the list, you'll find the real one. | 13:37 |
wgrant | Because it's a context-neutral bug listing, all of the tasks on that bug will show up in the listing, sorted independently. | 13:37 |
wgrant | Ignore the ones with importance 'Unknown' | 13:38 |
loic-m | wgrant: now I understand | 13:38 |
persia | Sometimes Importance is imported as well. Better to ignore the ones not directly against Ubuntu. | 13:38 |
loic-m | wgrant: is there a way to filter remote watch to exclude them from the view (I've got the same pb on my personnal bug list) | 13:38 |
wgrant | persia: Is it at all yet? | 13:40 |
loic-m | wgrant: i.e. some bugs have been fixed in Ubuntu for a while, Debian isn't , and i still see them as if they still need fixing | 13:40 |
wgrant | loic-m: You could do an advanced search and filter out the Unknown importance. Or do an advanced search in the context in which you are interested. | 13:40 |
loic-m | wgrant: I don't want to filter new (Debian status), because some of my bugs are also "New". I'd just like to filter remote BTS | 13:41 |
wgrant | loic-m: Importance, not status. | 13:42 |
wgrant | loic-m: No normal Launchpad bug task should have Unknown importance. | 13:42 |
RockyRoad | thanks andrea-bs :) It's probably what happened to me. Except that I didn't notice a "remove feedback" message, just checked the box and continue as far as I remember. | 13:42 |
loic-m | wgrabt: you're right, that's a solution | 13:42 |
loic-m | s/wgrabt/wgrant/ | 13:43 |
loic-m | wgrant: thanks a lot | 13:43 |
RockyRoad | So I've probably deleted the feedback. | 13:43 |
wgrant | np | 13:43 |
andrea-bs | RockyRoad, the user interface is changed, so maybe the "remove feedback" message has been reworded | 13:44 |
persia | wgrant, I thought I saw some in the past, but that may have been a very long time ago. | 13:44 |
RockyRoad | I can't redo it to check :/ | 13:44 |
RockyRoad | would a link help ? | 13:45 |
andrea-bs | RockyRoad, well, not so much because nobody of the launchpad team is working on the blueprint system :( | 13:47 |
RockyRoad | Then I can just edit the whiteboard to add a comment. | 13:47 |
RockyRoad | thanks anyway :) | 13:47 |
RockyRoad | I just marked that the bug was affected me, I have unfortunately not much precisions to add | 13:49 |
RockyRoad | s/affected/affecting/ | 13:49 |
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mpt_ | ugh | 15:40 |
mpt_ | Why does the "Mark as duplicate" overlay not contain a field for me to enter the bug number? | 15:40 |
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noodles | mpt: what's the url you're looking at? If I click on the mark as duplicate link at: | 15:45 |
noodles | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/61183 | 15:45 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 61183 in soyuz "Search packages has an unhelpful sort order" [Medium,In progress] | 15:45 |
noodles | it works... | 15:45 |
mpt | noodles, yes, it works on edge | 15:45 |
noodles | *gulp* | 15:45 |
mpt | and now it works on launchpad.net too | 15:46 |
mpt | hm, a glitch maybe | 15:46 |
mpt | but I have a screenshot to prove it :-) | 15:46 |
noodles | mpt: no idea why it wouldn't be working in production... intellectronica ^^ any ideas? | 15:46 |
noodles | mpt: *phew* | 15:46 |
noodles | mpt: my guess would be that the ajax request to get the duplicate form didn't return correctly (although, from memory, the form overlay should only display if the form content is returned) | 15:47 |
noodles | if you've got the screenshot, then it might be worth a bug :) | 15:48 |
mpt | I got nicely centered OK and Cancel buttons | 15:48 |
mpt | ok | 15:48 |
intellectronica | mpt: works for me | 15:51 |
intellectronica | noodles: yes, maybe we need to handle that better. retrying, or at least displaying an error message | 15:52 |
noodles | intellectronica: from memory, the 'Mark as duplicate' link is only ajaxified if the form is returned correctly... ie, it should default to non-ajax behaviour in that case, so not sure if it's actually what mpt witnessed. | 15:53 |
intellectronica | oh, interesting | 15:53 |
intellectronica | mpt: is this easily reproducible? | 15:54 |
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robocop | hello. | 16:14 |
robocop | Launchpad is dead ? | 16:14 |
robocop | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/ * | 16:16 |
ogra | is there anything wrong with bazaar.launchpad.net atm ? | 16:18 |
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noodles | yes, see topic :) | 16:18 |
ogra | ah, perfect :) | 16:18 |
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robocop | ha, okey :p | 16:19 |
greg-g | ahh, thanks /topic, answered my question. :) | 16:21 |
tsmithe | hi... ah; that explains it ;) | 16:23 |
tsmithe | is there any estimate for the downtime of bazaar.lp.net? | 16:24 |
kiko | tsmithe, we'll considering our options | 16:26 |
tsmithe | heh, cryptic. really, even a whole week of downtime would be worth the free service i get from LP, so i'm not going to complain | 16:27 |
LarstiQ | kiko: codehosting or lh? | 16:29 |
kiko | codehosting | 16:31 |
kiko | elmo and I are sorting it out | 16:31 |
LarstiQ | k | 16:31 |
javierder | Hi, I'm getting "ssh: connect to host bazaar.launchpad.net port 22: No route to host", any idea? | 16:34 |
javierder | well, ok, it just got back... | 16:34 |
LarstiQ | javierder: the topic mentions it being down | 16:35 |
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LarstiQ | doh | 16:35 |
kiko | back up :) | 16:35 |
LarstiQ | javierder: nothing to see here | 16:35 |
javierder | LarstiQ, thanksss | 16:35 |
ogra | thanks kiko | 16:36 |
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tsmithe | awesome, kiko, thanks | 16:46 |
greg-g | that was quick, well done | 16:46 |
kiko | you're welcome | 16:47 |
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alkisg | Hi, I've renamed my PPA display name from "Test PPA" to something else. But in the keyserver it's still listed as "Test PPA". Can that somehow be updated? https://launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/+archive/ppa | 19:13 |
kiko | alkisg, once the key is generated, that's it, you can't change it. I wonder if changing it should even be allowed once that's happened -- cprov? | 19:18 |
kiko | guess we could do some rejigging of the key if we wanted | 19:18 |
alkisg | Is it possible to delete the key and create another? | 19:18 |
cprov | alkisg: we could create a new UID on the same key, but that's not trivial. | 19:19 |
alkisg | Can I do something to delete the key completely and create a new UID on a different key? E.g. file a question? | 19:20 |
cprov | alkisg: please file a question on soyuz so we can start discussing the possibilities. Is that super-urgent ? | 19:20 |
alkisg | No, not at all. I can even keep using the same key, but the PPA isn't used now so creating a new key wouldn't bother anyone... | 19:20 |
maxb | Is it possible to completely deplete a PGP key from one LP account so that I can re-import it into another? | 19:20 |
cprov | alkisg: no, gpg keys can't be deleted they will remain in the keyservers *forever*. | 19:20 |
maxb | erm, oops. s/deplete/delete/ | 19:21 |
alkisg | ...but after 1-2 weeks people will start using the PPA, so I wouldn't want to change the key then | 19:21 |
cprov | maxb: not sure I follow. | 19:21 |
alkisg | Thanks kiko, cprov. | 19:21 |
maxb | cprov: I want to delete the passphraseless key that I use for letting cron upload nightly builds to PPAs from my main account and add it to a restricted LP account | 19:22 |
maxb | I realize I could just deactivate it and create a third key | 19:22 |
cprov | alkisg: file a question and I can add the new UID for you, I'd rather not have keys created by LP ending up being cruft in keyservers. | 19:22 |
cprov | maxb: oh, I see what you mean now. Yes, deactivating the old-key and creating a new one seems sane. | 19:23 |
cprov | maxb: we don't reassign gpg keys in LP | 19:23 |
maxb | But I want to avoid cruft in the keyservers :-P | 19:23 |
cprov | maxb: got me! | 19:24 |
alkisg | cprov: should I ask the question in soyuz? https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+addquestion ? | 19:24 |
cprov | maxb: do you think it would be legitimate to reassign them ? | 19:24 |
maxb | Well, only in the case of one person owning two LP accounts | 19:24 |
cprov | alkisg: yes, please, mention the key id you want. | 19:24 |
cprov | maxb: what's about the email addresses involved ? | 19:25 |
maxb | I own both of the email addresses, and have already moved one of those to the other account | 19:25 |
alkisg | cprov, key id == the key name? I've named my PPA "Αποθετήριο Τεχνικής Στήριξης" (that's Greek for a ministry department), is that a valid key id? | 19:26 |
cprov | OMG! | 19:26 |
cprov | :) | 19:26 |
beuno | ha | 19:26 |
alkisg | heh :) | 19:26 |
cprov | alkisg: well, if it's utf-8 it's okay. | 19:26 |
alkisg | OK, thanks :) :) | 19:26 |
mwhudson | good, um,morning | 19:27 |
maxb | On the subject of alkisg's issue, won't the result be a key in the keyservers that still contains the "Test PPA" uid? | 19:27 |
cprov | maxb: could this problem be solved by merging the existing account ? | 19:27 |
cprov | maxb: we can create the new UID and remove the old one | 19:27 |
alkisg | (btw, that was the *display* name, not the actual ppa name used in the url...) | 19:28 |
cprov | maxb: it will be listed as 'revoked' | 19:28 |
maxb | cprov: No - the whole idea is that I'm trying to split off permissions to upload to a specific team's PPAs from the rest of my LP account | 19:28 |
cprov | alkisg: ack. | 19:28 |
cprov | maxb: uhm, interesting. | 19:28 |
cprov | maxb: you would benefit of explicit upload ACLs for team-ppas as well | 19:29 |
cprov | maxb: anyway, another conversation, sorry for the noise. | 19:29 |
maxb | Surely it's not *that* interesting? There must be other people doing automated nightly builds in PPAs? | 19:29 |
cprov | maxb: yes, mozilla, bzr ... | 19:30 |
savvas | I think yes, the chromium guys too | 19:30 |
savvas | (or a packager at least) | 19:30 |
maxb | So, I correctly realized that it would be stupid to give a cron script access to my main GPG key, and created another one | 19:30 |
maxb | Problem is I failed to realize that I should not be giving the cron script access to my entire LP identity (in an ideal world) | 19:31 |
maxb | And that latter one is the issue I'm trying to correct | 19:31 |
cprov | maxb: right, now you want to transfer one of *your* keys to this new robot account. | 19:32 |
maxb | Yes | 19:32 |
cprov | something like a "split-account" procedure | 19:33 |
maxb | Well, perhaps. The only thing that needs splitting is the GPG key | 19:33 |
maxb | Does LP have any other account attributes that the user can't outright delete? | 19:34 |
cprov | maxb: okay, I'm under the impression it would be okay to reassign a gpg-key on these terms. Can you please file a question on launchpad ? | 19:34 |
maxb | sure, on /launchpad or on /soyuz? | 19:35 |
cprov | maxb: keys and emails are not deleted, they remain 'deactivated' | 19:35 |
cprov | maxb: it sounds like a general launchpad question | 19:35 |
maxb | I was able to delete the email from ~maxb and then sign up for a new account using that email | 19:36 |
cprov | although, the motivation is clearly soyuz upload ACLs. | 19:36 |
cprov | maxb: oops, I guess my assumption is wrong, then. | 19:37 |
cprov | maxb: OTOH, this is good, if you can delete a email address and re-create it, you surely should be able to do the same with gpg keys. | 19:37 |
cprov | maxb: let's talk to the registry gurus, they will provide a solution :) | 19:39 |
maxb | ok, question filed, I'll see what response I get on it | 19:45 |
maxb | thanks | 19:45 |
cprov | maxb: thank you. | 19:52 |
mdke | I've been waiting for a LP admin on a question for a while now - can anyone take a look? https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/71740 | 20:08 |
kiko | sorry mdke, looking now | 20:27 |
exarkun | I followed the link to http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dan-dispaltro/txamqp/fixed-ref-cycle/annotate/16/src/txamqp/protocol.py from http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dan-dispaltro/txamqp/fixed-ref-cycle/files/16/src/txamqp/ | 21:53 |
exarkun | The former gives "Internal server error" | 21:53 |
beuno | exarkun, that's not great | 21:53 |
beuno | would you file a bug please? | 21:53 |
exarkun | Sure. Against Launchpad, or is there a more specific component? | 21:53 |
beuno | exarkun, launchpad-bazaar would be ideal | 21:54 |
exarkun | Alright, will do. | 21:54 |
beuno | thanks exarkun | 21:55 |
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mdke | kiko: thanks very much | 22:41 |
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