[02:18] Is it possible for someone to move a few projects to some new names? [02:22] Specifically, gentoo-pandora-portage should be gentoo-pandora-overlay, gentoo-pandora-repository should be gentoo-pandora-portage-binaries, and gentoo-arm-pandora should be called gentoo-pandora-toolbox. [02:25] javaJake: yup. create a question via answers against the LP project itself; and I'll make it so for you. https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion - just ping me back with the resulting Q# [02:25] OK, sounds good! [02:30] Q#: 72840 [02:30] Direct link: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/72840 [02:37] javaJake: "fun2program8"!?!?!? lol :-D [02:37] Huh? :P [02:38] fun2program is obvious, and 8 is my favorite number. I don't know if you read anything else out of it. :) [02:41] javaJake: all done. have created aliases for the old names, so they'll still work as well. [02:41] Wow, awesome! [02:41] That's... brilliant [02:43] * javaJake has marked Q as answered [02:43] Thanks spm :) [02:43] np! [02:51] What's the LP review system's equivalent to Bundle Buggy's "bb:tweak"? "needs fixing" or "approve"? [02:58] I don't know === MTeck is now known as MTecknology [03:28] Peng_, there is one called "Needs info" which will land soon [03:36] beuno: that seems rather different [03:36] beuno: tweak is 'make a change, then you can land' [03:36] beuno: it specifically avoids additional review round trips [03:40] lifeless, right. I guess we use "approve" and just comment the change requested [03:41] beuno: I think that is less clear [03:41] beuno: specifically, someone else coming along to land (e.g. a landing robot) will DTWT there [03:50] I'm getting this error, http://pastebin.com/m296d284a , while trying to use my own website, isaacbythewood.com , to identify myself with openid. :( [03:50] It doesn't make any sense. [03:53] overshard: currently launchpad will only accept launchpad as an identifying party [03:53] overshard: we are working on making it accept any openid provider but that work isn't complete yet [03:54] overshard: alternatively, there may be a bug where we don't permit soemthing that should be permitted [03:55] overshard: either way, can I encourage you to file a bug on launchpad; the openid folk will be interested either way [04:54] do we have Launchpad developers returning today? [04:54] for values of today subject to TZ, yes [05:01] I'm hoping to get a fix for - https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/69460 [05:04] tansell: cool. have increased to 5. so you should be able to ditch the extras you created, if'n'when you're ready. [05:04] spm, thanks! [05:05] I can finally upload a new version :) [05:05] heh [05:06] picked a bad couple of weeks to finally have success in this packaging [05:07] ahh well [05:08] it's amazing that 27mb of code turns into >1G of binaries [05:09] tansell: we deliberately scheduled allhands and UDS just to inconvenice yourself. ;-) [05:09] spm, how was it? [05:10] AH? awesome. to finally meet these people I work with! [05:11] UDS I was only there for 2.5 days - more for a LOSA mini sprint than UDS itself. So was also excellent, but in a different way. [05:11] LOSA? [05:11] spm [05:11] Legendry Operational System Admin ;-) [05:12] * lifeless hands spm a dictionary [05:12] sperlling is for weenies [05:13] tansell: https://edge.launchpad.net/~canonical-losas [05:14] the 'L' is getting a tad overloaded this days. As it now stands for: Launchpad, Landscape, Ubuntu One and a few other systems. Hence my suggestion of Legendry. [05:14] spm: Loverly [05:15] lifeless: hmmm. -1 from me. Has "nice ness" connotations. And we have BOFH reputations to maintain. So... ;-) [05:16] :) [05:16] * lifeless prepares to spread the meme [05:16] LOL! [05:31] support request [05:31] !ask [05:31] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [05:32] Someone else has a user ID I want. They don't use their account. Could you shift it to me? [05:32] https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/323 [05:34] admins? [05:34] operators? [05:34] staff members? [05:38] https://help.launchpad.net/Feedback [05:38] .. Post a question: We use Launchpad Answers, and you can discuss pretty much anything Launchpad-related by asking a question. [06:00] lifeless: thanks === Hellow__ is now known as Hellow === Hellow is now known as Guest90254 === Guest90254 is now known as Hellow === abentley1 is now known as abentley === Rhamphoryncus_ is now known as Rhamphoryncus [11:14] how does one delete a ppa? [11:22] tansell: you can mark packages deleted yourself (as you're probably aware), but to delete/disable the actual PPA, please add a request like this one: [11:22] https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/67142 [11:28] Hello. Does Launchpad make PPA details available in a machine readable form at all (RDF, plain text etc.)? [11:31] Hi Warbo, you can get any PPA for a person via the api... more details here if it helps: [11:31] https://edge.launchpad.net/+apidoc/#person-getPPAByName [11:33] Thanks, but I was after more complete PPA info, like suported releases, binary and source contents, deb and deb-src lines, etc. I can't find anything in the API or launchpadlib, and was hoping not to screen scrape/guess from the contents [11:34] Warbo, I'm not sure there's any way for PPA owners to store some of that. Binary and Source contents are available from ppa.launchpad.net (as Packages.gz and Sources.gz). [11:34] I'm making a tool which generates sources.list files and makes packages of them, so that every PPA could be enabled by installing its package [11:35] deb and deb-src lines can be computed. === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch [12:44] how do you change a project's VCS location [12:44] I am with libdc1394 and we have switched from SVN to GIT but the vcs-imports is still on the SVN [12:47] pan1nx, you just register a new import for the project [12:47] we'll sort out the rest === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell [13:09] When I set a bug status to Confirmed in Ubuntu, but there's a remote watch whose status is New, how come the staus isn't set to Confirmed here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-universe-sponsors ? [13:10] f.e. https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/soundconverter/+bug/335739 [13:10] Ubuntu bug 335739 in soundconverter "Please upgrade to soundconverter 1.4.3" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [13:10] loic-m: Remote watches take their status from the remote bug that they're watching. [13:10] Heh, that's my package! I've been a bit busy lately :( [13:12] wgrant: bug has been opened for a while though :P [13:13] wgrant: and last release was from somebody else... [13:14] loic-m: It was, yes. I knew I couldn't do it for Jaunty, as it was too late, and didn't find it important enough for Karmic yet. [13:14] wgrant: but indeed you're there a lot in the changelog ! [13:14] k [13:14] I maintain it in Debian, so yeah. [13:15] I just noticed ;) [13:15] rmadison -u debian soundconverter isnt't that nice though, people in Debian might get sad [13:15] Uni finished last week, so I should be able to fix everything up in Debian and sync in a week or two. [13:16] Well, I just keep upgrading long-standing bugs, just to get them hang on the waiting list till the Debian packager wakes up... [13:17] I am awake now. [13:17] Doesn't help now... [13:17] Indeed. Sorry. [13:18] You're welcome. [13:19] Hi :) [13:22] I tried to answer a blueprint feedback request, but where I expected a form to enter some text, I was redirected to the blueprint page, where the feedback request had then disappeared. What did I miss ? [13:27] Is there a way to retrieve the feedback request text ? [13:31] Anyway, is there a way to make Confirmed bugs appear as Confirmed? [13:32] loic-m, How do you mean? In remote bug trackers? You'd have to adjust the status there. [13:33] nope, in https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-universe-sponsors [13:33] kiko, how do you register a new import for the project? [13:34] persia: status is New even though it's Confirmed in the bug report [13:34] loic-m, Check which project the bug is against. I don't know of any way to view that list for only a single project. [13:34] loic-m, bug 177520 [13:34] Launchpad bug 177520 in blueprint ""Give feedback" is confusing and loses data" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177520 [13:35] RockyRoad, ^^ [13:35] oops, wrong person :) [13:35] thanks persia :) === ripps_ is now known as ripps [13:36] persia: for example https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/soundconverter/+bug/335739 confirmed in Ubuntu, appears as "New" [13:36] Ubuntu bug 335739 in soundconverter "Please upgrade to soundconverter 1.4.3" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [13:36] persia: I don't understand [13:37] persia: while other bugs with remote watch also New, but Confirmed in Ubuntu appear as "Confirmed" on the uus page, others don't. It's really confusing [13:37] loic-m: That's because remote watches have an importance of Unknown, which happens to sort before all of the proper statuses. [13:37] loic-m: If you look further down the list, you'll find the real one. [13:37] Because it's a context-neutral bug listing, all of the tasks on that bug will show up in the listing, sorted independently. [13:38] Ignore the ones with importance 'Unknown' [13:38] wgrant: now I understand [13:38] Sometimes Importance is imported as well. Better to ignore the ones not directly against Ubuntu. [13:38] wgrant: is there a way to filter remote watch to exclude them from the view (I've got the same pb on my personnal bug list) [13:40] persia: Is it at all yet? [13:40] wgrant: i.e. some bugs have been fixed in Ubuntu for a while, Debian isn't , and i still see them as if they still need fixing [13:40] loic-m: You could do an advanced search and filter out the Unknown importance. Or do an advanced search in the context in which you are interested. [13:41] wgrant: I don't want to filter new (Debian status), because some of my bugs are also "New". I'd just like to filter remote BTS [13:42] loic-m: Importance, not status. [13:42] loic-m: No normal Launchpad bug task should have Unknown importance. [13:42] thanks andrea-bs :) It's probably what happened to me. Except that I didn't notice a "remove feedback" message, just checked the box and continue as far as I remember. [13:42] wgrabt: you're right, that's a solution [13:43] s/wgrabt/wgrant/ [13:43] wgrant: thanks a lot [13:43] So I've probably deleted the feedback. [13:43] np [13:44] RockyRoad, the user interface is changed, so maybe the "remove feedback" message has been reworded [13:44] wgrant, I thought I saw some in the past, but that may have been a very long time ago. [13:44] I can't redo it to check :/ [13:45] would a link help ? [13:47] RockyRoad, well, not so much because nobody of the launchpad team is working on the blueprint system :( [13:47] Then I can just edit the whiteboard to add a comment. [13:47] thanks anyway :) [13:49] I just marked that the bug was affected me, I have unfortunately not much precisions to add [13:49] s/affected/affecting/ === mpt_ is now known as mpt === fta_ is now known as fta === asac_ is now known as asac === mpt_ is now known as mpt [15:40] ugh [15:40] Why does the "Mark as duplicate" overlay not contain a field for me to enter the bug number? === mpt_ is now known as mpt [15:45] mpt: what's the url you're looking at? If I click on the mark as duplicate link at: [15:45] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/61183 [15:45] Ubuntu bug 61183 in soyuz "Search packages has an unhelpful sort order" [Medium,In progress] [15:45] it works... [15:45] noodles, yes, it works on edge [15:45] *gulp* [15:46] and now it works on launchpad.net too [15:46] hm, a glitch maybe [15:46] but I have a screenshot to prove it :-) [15:46] mpt: no idea why it wouldn't be working in production... intellectronica ^^ any ideas? [15:46] mpt: *phew* [15:47] mpt: my guess would be that the ajax request to get the duplicate form didn't return correctly (although, from memory, the form overlay should only display if the form content is returned) [15:48] if you've got the screenshot, then it might be worth a bug :) [15:48] I got nicely centered OK and Cancel buttons [15:48] ok [15:51] mpt: works for me [15:52] noodles: yes, maybe we need to handle that better. retrying, or at least displaying an error message [15:53] intellectronica: from memory, the 'Mark as duplicate' link is only ajaxified if the form is returned correctly... ie, it should default to non-ajax behaviour in that case, so not sure if it's actually what mpt witnessed. [15:53] oh, interesting [15:54] mpt: is this easily reproducible? === mpt_ is now known as mpt [16:14] hello. [16:14] Launchpad is dead ? [16:16] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/ * [16:18] is there anything wrong with bazaar.launchpad.net atm ? === Spads changed the topic of #launchpad to: bazaar.launchpad.net is down and being worked on | https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com [16:18] yes, see topic :) [16:18] ah, perfect :) [16:19] * ogra patiently waits [16:19] ha, okey :p [16:21] ahh, thanks /topic, answered my question. :) [16:23] hi... ah; that explains it ;) [16:24] is there any estimate for the downtime of bazaar.lp.net? [16:26] tsmithe, we'll considering our options [16:27] heh, cryptic. really, even a whole week of downtime would be worth the free service i get from LP, so i'm not going to complain [16:29] kiko: codehosting or lh? [16:31] codehosting [16:31] elmo and I are sorting it out [16:31] k [16:34] Hi, I'm getting "ssh: connect to host bazaar.launchpad.net port 22: No route to host", any idea? [16:34] well, ok, it just got back... [16:35] javierder: the topic mentions it being down === elmo changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com [16:35] doh [16:35] back up :) [16:35] javierder: nothing to see here [16:35] LarstiQ, thanksss [16:36] thanks kiko === herb__ is now known as herb === beuno_ is now known as beuno [16:46] awesome, kiko, thanks [16:46] that was quick, well done [16:47] you're welcome === mpt_ is now known as mpt [19:13] Hi, I've renamed my PPA display name from "Test PPA" to something else. But in the keyserver it's still listed as "Test PPA". Can that somehow be updated? https://launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/+archive/ppa [19:18] alkisg, once the key is generated, that's it, you can't change it. I wonder if changing it should even be allowed once that's happened -- cprov? [19:18] guess we could do some rejigging of the key if we wanted [19:18] Is it possible to delete the key and create another? [19:19] alkisg: we could create a new UID on the same key, but that's not trivial. [19:20] Can I do something to delete the key completely and create a new UID on a different key? E.g. file a question? [19:20] alkisg: please file a question on soyuz so we can start discussing the possibilities. Is that super-urgent ? [19:20] No, not at all. I can even keep using the same key, but the PPA isn't used now so creating a new key wouldn't bother anyone... [19:20] Is it possible to completely deplete a PGP key from one LP account so that I can re-import it into another? [19:20] alkisg: no, gpg keys can't be deleted they will remain in the keyservers *forever*. [19:21] erm, oops. s/deplete/delete/ [19:21] ...but after 1-2 weeks people will start using the PPA, so I wouldn't want to change the key then [19:21] maxb: not sure I follow. [19:21] Thanks kiko, cprov. [19:22] cprov: I want to delete the passphraseless key that I use for letting cron upload nightly builds to PPAs from my main account and add it to a restricted LP account [19:22] I realize I could just deactivate it and create a third key [19:22] alkisg: file a question and I can add the new UID for you, I'd rather not have keys created by LP ending up being cruft in keyservers. [19:23] maxb: oh, I see what you mean now. Yes, deactivating the old-key and creating a new one seems sane. [19:23] maxb: we don't reassign gpg keys in LP [19:23] But I want to avoid cruft in the keyservers :-P [19:24] maxb: got me! [19:24] cprov: should I ask the question in soyuz? https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+addquestion ? [19:24] maxb: do you think it would be legitimate to reassign them ? [19:24] Well, only in the case of one person owning two LP accounts [19:24] alkisg: yes, please, mention the key id you want. [19:25] maxb: what's about the email addresses involved ? [19:25] I own both of the email addresses, and have already moved one of those to the other account [19:26] cprov, key id == the key name? I've named my PPA "Αποθετήριο Τεχνικής Στήριξης" (that's Greek for a ministry department), is that a valid key id? [19:26] OMG! [19:26] :) [19:26] ha [19:26] heh :) [19:26] alkisg: well, if it's utf-8 it's okay. [19:26] OK, thanks :) :) [19:27] good, um,morning [19:27] On the subject of alkisg's issue, won't the result be a key in the keyservers that still contains the "Test PPA" uid? [19:27] maxb: could this problem be solved by merging the existing account ? [19:27] maxb: we can create the new UID and remove the old one [19:28] (btw, that was the *display* name, not the actual ppa name used in the url...) [19:28] maxb: it will be listed as 'revoked' [19:28] cprov: No - the whole idea is that I'm trying to split off permissions to upload to a specific team's PPAs from the rest of my LP account [19:28] alkisg: ack. [19:28] maxb: uhm, interesting. [19:29] maxb: you would benefit of explicit upload ACLs for team-ppas as well [19:29] maxb: anyway, another conversation, sorry for the noise. [19:29] Surely it's not *that* interesting? There must be other people doing automated nightly builds in PPAs? [19:30] maxb: yes, mozilla, bzr ... [19:30] I think yes, the chromium guys too [19:30] (or a packager at least) [19:30] So, I correctly realized that it would be stupid to give a cron script access to my main GPG key, and created another one [19:31] Problem is I failed to realize that I should not be giving the cron script access to my entire LP identity (in an ideal world) [19:31] And that latter one is the issue I'm trying to correct [19:32] maxb: right, now you want to transfer one of *your* keys to this new robot account. [19:32] Yes [19:33] something like a "split-account" procedure [19:33] Well, perhaps. The only thing that needs splitting is the GPG key [19:34] Does LP have any other account attributes that the user can't outright delete? [19:34] maxb: okay, I'm under the impression it would be okay to reassign a gpg-key on these terms. Can you please file a question on launchpad ? [19:35] sure, on /launchpad or on /soyuz? [19:35] maxb: keys and emails are not deleted, they remain 'deactivated' [19:35] maxb: it sounds like a general launchpad question [19:36] I was able to delete the email from ~maxb and then sign up for a new account using that email [19:36] although, the motivation is clearly soyuz upload ACLs. [19:37] maxb: oops, I guess my assumption is wrong, then. [19:37] maxb: OTOH, this is good, if you can delete a email address and re-create it, you surely should be able to do the same with gpg keys. [19:39] maxb: let's talk to the registry gurus, they will provide a solution :) [19:45] ok, question filed, I'll see what response I get on it [19:45] thanks [19:52] maxb: thank you. [20:08] I've been waiting for a LP admin on a question for a while now - can anyone take a look? https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/71740 [20:27] sorry mdke, looking now [21:53] I followed the link to http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dan-dispaltro/txamqp/fixed-ref-cycle/annotate/16/src/txamqp/protocol.py from http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dan-dispaltro/txamqp/fixed-ref-cycle/files/16/src/txamqp/ [21:53] The former gives "Internal server error" [21:53] exarkun, that's not great [21:53] would you file a bug please? [21:53] Sure. Against Launchpad, or is there a more specific component? [21:54] exarkun, launchpad-bazaar would be ideal [21:54] Alright, will do. [21:55] thanks exarkun === MTeck is now known as MTecknologyu === MTecknologyu is now known as MTecknology === salgado is now known as salgado-afk [22:41] kiko: thanks very much === Snova_ is now known as Snova