[07:55] <SiDi> hi
[13:55] <dns53> does this team manage mailing lists?
[14:13] <SiDi> dns53, all lists, do you mean ?
[14:25] <dns53> the loco list
[14:27] <SiDi> I suppose it's newz2000 who manages the whole lists.ubuntu.com but i dont think he controls what happens in the lists themselves.
[18:50] <mpt_> http://www.bing.com/search?q=ubuntu
[18:53] <SiDi> wow
[18:53] <SiDi> their engine isnt clever
[18:53] <SiDi> uses my geographical location to sort the answers
[18:53] <SiDi> instead of my locale
[18:54] <knome> i learned that ubuntu is the magazine of finland-south africa club
[19:01] <newz2000> wow, I like the mouse-over taht shows a summary of the contents of the target page
[19:01] <mpt> Bing is quite sure that I'm in Australia -- I don't know how it got that idea
[19:04] <knome> newz2000, i don't see that
[19:04] <newz2000> knome: when you mouse over the results a line and dot show up on the right... if you mouse over it you see a summary of the page
[19:05] <knome> no, i don't see a dot
[19:06] <knome> oh right, now i do
[19:06] <newz2000> :-)
[19:06] <newz2000> subtle
[19:07] <knome> the page looks totally different on epiphany and firefox
[19:07] <knome> on epiphany, i have way more content
[19:07] <knome> i wonder if it's because the locale is en only
[19:10] <SiDi> heya newz2000
[19:10] <newz2000> hey SiDi
[19:10] <SiDi> mpt, i got an IP that isnt linked to my country too when i'm in france :] Stupid people make stupid search engines :]
[19:11] <SiDi> newz2000, i wanted to ask you something about the wiki themes
[19:11] <SiDi> is it possible to have one for xubuntu ? :D
[19:11] <newz2000> SiDi: I'd rather not
[19:11] <newz2000> as a matter of fact there has been recent talk to remove kubuntu's theme
[19:11] <newz2000> don't think it will happen, but the prob is
[19:11] <mpt> knome, weird, I have the opposite issue -- it's far more interesting in Firefox
[19:12] <newz2000> that google shows some results illogically as being part of the kubuntu wiki and others as being part of ubuntu wiki
[19:12] <SiDi> newz2000, aw
[19:13] <SiDi> newz2000, the only point of that would be to change brown to blue though
[19:13] <SiDi> we use a custom menu for xubuntu pages, its blueish, and that's just not sexy :D
[19:13] <newz2000> well, there's also the need for a separate domain
[19:13] <newz2000> SiDi: if adding some styles to the ubuntu theme could make your pages more attractive I'd support that
[19:14] <newz2000> non-intrusive styles that only affect certain pages for example
[19:15] <SiDi> is it possible to change the aspect of the page with code inside our wiki pages ?
[19:15] <mpt> SiDi, https://lists.canonical.com/archives/ubuntu-website/2009-March/000620.html
[19:15] <SiDi> the best for us would be to have a page like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Toolbox/Menu that changes the rest too
[19:16] <newz2000> SiDi: can you add a class attribute to your menu? If so then we could add necessary styles to the main style sheet
[19:17] <SiDi> our "wiki" consists of the childs of wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu btw :p
[19:18] <mpt> newz2000, would you do that server-side, or only for browsers that support the :has-child() selector? :-)
[19:18] <SiDi> knome, ping
[19:19] <newz2000> neither, I'm thinking of styling only specific elements of the page that have pre-defined classes on them
[19:19] <newz2000> like the menu
[19:21] <SiDi> newz2000, isnt there a way to specify a different CSS for a part of the wiki ?
[19:22] <newz2000> SiDi: I don't know for sure but if you want to propose a solution I'll consider it. We're using moin 1.6 series.
[19:30] <knome> SiDi, pong
[19:37] <SiDi> knome, newz2000 asked if we could add a class to our menu :P
[19:43] <SiDi> http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/ThemeCssPerPage
[19:45] <SiDi> is it normal i dont understand anything ?
[19:46] <newz2000> those are theoretical solutions as far as I can tell... I'm not too comfortable with it since some browsers (ahem) let you embed scripts in stylesheets
[19:48] <newz2000> I'm adamantly opposed to any feature that lets people use our wiki tool to hack into the computers who happen to visit our site with IE.
[19:48] <newz2000> ...wiki as a tool...
[19:48] <newz2000> :-D
[19:48] <SiDi> newz2000, heheh :D
[19:49] <SiDi> newz2000, think about how we'd protect our precious knowledge from the microsoft marketing department
[19:49] <newz2000> Though that would be a clever trick if we could automatically install Ubuntu on the computers of anyone using IE
[19:50] <SiDi> yeh
[19:50] <SiDi> with wubi
[19:50] <SiDi> hm... i shall write the first ubuntu-installing virus :]
[19:53] <SiDi> i must find their wiki
[19:53] <SiDi> their irc *
[19:53] <SiDi> this stuff is too confusing
[20:09] <SiDi> newz2000, http://paste.ubuntu.com/185944/
[20:09] <SiDi> Do you understand what he means ? :D
[20:16] <SiDi> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/120415/ <- he told me we could execute arbitrary code depending on what's in the "request" param
[20:25] <newz2000> SiDi: yes, I know what he means
[20:26] <SiDi> That's dirty, right ? :P
[20:26] <newz2000> well, it can be done elegantly, but it would require major revision to the theme
[20:26] <newz2000> think simpler, I'll bet you can come up with something that will work nicely
[20:31] <SiDi> i dont even know if we can put CSS inside the wiki pages :x
[20:31] <newz2000> you can definitely use style rules
[20:32] <newz2000> I thin css classes work also
[20:32] <newz2000> think
[20:32] <SiDi> Do you know the syntax for the style rules inside a wiki page ?
[20:33] <newz2000> I've seen it used on tables...
[20:34] <newz2000> SiDi: see the first few lines of this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork?action=raw
[20:37] <SiDi> Per line isnt affordable unfortunately ^^
[20:38] <SiDi> What i actually want is that all the pages below Xubuntu/ automatically get a style applied, and the worse thing to do when creating a page would be copy pasting a block of wikitext or including it as we currently include our menu
[20:40] <newz2000> I'd suggest against trying to make a drastic change to the site this way, I'm referring to making your menu look good with the stock ubuntu theme
[20:41] <SiDi> well, at worse that's ok, we'll survive ^^
[20:41] <SiDi> its just about marketing :P