[00:00] <freedumMan> Thanks pici
[00:00] <tannersummers_> guys whats a good program to backup my entire ubuntu system?
[00:00] <ruler> i want to putaother copy os how can i put
[00:00] <RHorse> Poka sudo [dev] iwconfig essid [essid] mode managed -key 1234567890; sudo dhclient [dev] should  work under most cases
[00:00] <sebsebseb> tannersummers_: why backup the whole thing?
[00:00] <sebsebseb> !backup
[00:00] <AnArrayfulOfPerl> how do i mount HFS+ read-write?
[00:00] <ilius> tannersummers_: APTonCD may help you.
[00:01] <freedumMan> Darkchef, any luck
[00:01] <RHorse> Poka sudo iwconfig [dev] essid [essid] mode managed -key 1234567890; sudo dhclient [dev] should  work under most cases
[00:01]  * freedumMan 15 minutes left
[00:01] <tannersummers_> sebsebseb well theres this guide to have 4 diff wallpapers per desktop in compiz and ppl sayign recommaned to ackup ur system
[00:01] <Darkchef> freedumMan
[00:01] <Darkchef> freedumMan : i found the file , i opened it and it blank
[00:01] <freedumMan> Darkchef, shoot your not root
[00:01] <Darkchef> is this to do with not being in super user?
[00:01] <ruler> i want the put os another copy how can i put it
[00:02] <freedumMan> yes
[00:02] <abdelrahman> hi, I have a problem, my computer freezes when it wakes up from hibernate
[00:02] <sebsebseb> tannersummers_: backup the whole system I don't think so, backup  all your data sure, but  compiz program causing the need for a backup  probably not
[00:02] <abdelrahman> can anybody help
[00:02] <freedumMan> sudo gedit
[00:02] <freedumMan> sorry
[00:02] <bk> abdelrahman: what kind of computer are you using?
[00:02] <bk> abdelrahman: what specs?
[00:02] <bk> abdelrahman: what version of ubuntu
[00:02] <sebsebseb> !details | abdelrahman
[00:02] <tannersummers_> sebsebseb then do u think this is safe http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=6199
[00:02] <abdelrahman> bk: laptop, tx2500, ubuntu 9.04, with compiz and fglrx
[00:03] <bk> abdelrahman: do sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:03] <bk> make sure its up to date
[00:03] <ruler> i want to put another copy for os how can i put it
[00:03] <bk> ruler: what do you mean? dual boot?
[00:03] <abdelrahman> I have a problem with resume, running ubuntu 9.04
[00:04] <sTEPPZOR_> Ive followed the ICS tutorial to the last letter.. but still i cant seem to get it working.. Im getting "Cannot communicate with DNS (192.168.0.1)"
[00:04] <AnArrayfulOfPerl> how do i mount HFS+ read-write?
[00:04] <Darkchef> freedumMan : the httpd.conf is definately empty
[00:04] <Darkchef> :S
[00:04] <abdelrahman> bk: well its updating flash plugin
[00:04] <freedumMan> Darkchef, thats weird
[00:05] <bk> abdelrahman: hmmm, im not sure what the problem could be, how long do you give it to wake up?
[00:05] <Darkchef> freedumMan : yeah i know, ill have to look into this a bit more , is there anyway of just having it all set up so i can do php work
[00:05] <freedumMan> Im almost out of battery here i have to go but sounds like you need http://www.apachefriends.org/en/index.html which is simple just extract to a directory
[00:05] <tannersummers_> wat u think sebsebseb
[00:05] <abdelrahman> bk: well alot!
[00:06] <freedumMan> Darkchef, I've used that in the past and it has all php items installed
[00:06] <bk> abdelrahman: haha, hmmm, ive never ran into this, unless your computer just cant handle hibernate
[00:06] <abdelrahman> bk: its does!
[00:06] <freedumMan> Darkchef, good luck
[00:06] <sebsebseb> tannersummers_: it's rather old the link you gave me
[00:06] <abdelrahman> bk: its a new HP tx2500
[00:06] <Darkchef> freedumMan, cheers
[00:06] <sebsebseb> tannersummers_: December 2007,  the first post talks about gutsy and suse in brackets
[00:07] <bk> abdelrahman: did it come with Ubuntu? or Windows?
[00:07] <tannersummers_> sebsebseb im new at thsi so im guessing it wont work?
[00:07] <Roasted> What's the best way of networking a printer from my Ubuntu machine to Windows XP clients?
[00:07] <abdelrahman> bk: windows
[00:07] <abdelrahman> bk: its a tablet pc
[00:07] <erUSUL> !cups
[00:07] <sebsebseb> tannersummers_: which version of Ubuntu are you on?
[00:07] <bk> abdelrahman: tablet? as in touch?
[00:07] <boss_mc> AnArrayfulOfPerl: sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/blah /mnt/blah2
[00:08] <erUSUL> Roasted: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[00:08] <Roasted> yeah. I know about cups. I know about samba. But I've tried every tutorial I've found and I can't seem to get it ironed out.
[00:08] <Roasted> I was hoping somebody could offer some advice on ACTUALLY doing it...
[00:08] <abdelrahman> bk:yep
[00:08] <bk> abdelrahman: ahhhh, now that i dont know, i dont know what the differences are on those
[00:08] <lula88>  lol
[00:08] <tannersummers_> sebsebseb 9.04
[00:08] <boss_mc> AnArrayfulOfPerl: correction:
[00:08] <sebsebseb> tannersummers_: the info is old Gnome on 2.6  in Jaunty and that.   nautilus is on 2.26.2
[00:08] <abdelrahman> bk: i noticed that the hibernation started not working after I enabled fglrx
[00:08] <uuv> I'm trying to run Warcraft 3 The Frozen Throne on my laptop with wine, but when i start the game only "dos" pops up and prints some text and then lightning fast disappears. Is there any way i could see what's it typing and how I could make the game work. Any suggestions?
[00:09] <boss_mc> AnArrayfulOfPerl: sudo mount /dev/blah -t hfsplus -o rw /mnt/blah2
[00:09] <sebsebseb> tannersummers_: Gnome  2.26.2
[00:09] <sebsebseb> tannersummers_: your link is for old versions
[00:09] <bk> abdelrahman: well you can try disabling that, then put it in hibernate, then see if it happens again
[00:09] <bk> abdelrahman: if that is the problem contact HP or the creator of fglrx and let them know
[00:09] <sebsebseb> tannersummers_: your after a background change or some such?
[00:10] <abdelrahman> bk: its the ati driver
[00:10] <chuck_> abdelrahman, there are many bug reports on launch pad concerning the fglrx driver and hibernation
[00:10] <sebsebseb> tannersummers_: background changer
[00:10] <abdelrahman> chuck_: any workarounds?
[00:10] <bk> abdelrahman: then yea, that might be the problem, more than likely is
[00:10] <AnArrayfulOfPerl> stupid me is stupid
[00:10] <boss_mc> AnArrayfulOfPerl: did you forget -o rw?
[00:10] <tannersummers_> sebsebseb i have compiz and have the desktop cube i want a diff wallpaper per cube side (or per desktop so to say)
[00:11] <p-f> Hi, dhclient keeps getting ridiculously short leases (200-1500 seconds). Any ideas why? I'm having the same problem at home and at university, so it's unlikely to be a router problem.
[00:11] <sebsebseb> tannersummers_: most  Ubuntu links from 2007,  will be to old for  later versions of Ubuntu
[00:11] <p-f> I have about 1300 seconds until my lease expires so please make it quick :p
[00:11] <sebsebseb> tannersummers_: so 2007 links are usaully bad with modern software versions
[00:11] <sebsebseb> tannersummers_: I think there's a  #compiz
[00:11] <asdadsf> i have a problem with sound
[00:11] <asdadsf> vlc works with oss
[00:12] <williamd> asdadsf, i did too
[00:12] <sebsebseb> !sound |  asdasdsf
[00:12] <boss_mc> !details | asdadsf
[00:12] <p-f> this is a new issue, by the way. It started occuring about a week ago. I haven't made any major updates for the last two weeks so I'm not sure what could be the cause.
[00:12] <asdadsf> but everything else doesn't work
[00:12] <Slart> p-f: is that a problem? I've got 2810 seconds on my home lan
[00:12] <asdadsf> with sound
[00:12] <tannersummers_> sebsebseb ty
[00:12] <Slart> p-f: dhclient should renew the lease automatically though.. so it shouldn't be a problem
[00:12] <sebsebseb> tannersummers_: ok good luck
[00:12] <asdadsf> anyone here can help me?
[00:12] <p-f> Slart, I may be badly interpreting this then
[00:12] <boss_mc> asdadsf: do other things work if you close vlc first?
[00:12] <p-f> Slart, either way, my connection drops every 3-4 minutes
[00:12] <Slart> p-f: even though 200 seconds seem a bit short
[00:12] <asdadsf> what do u mean
[00:13] <asdadsf> in vlc's settings in choose oss
[00:13] <asdadsf> and it works but alsa does not
[00:13] <asdadsf> my sound overall does not work
[00:13] <p-f> Slart, this only occurs in my appartment and in a few buildings on campus
[00:13] <Slart> p-f: hmm.. it drops when you're at home too?
[00:13] <boss_mc> !alsa | asdadsf
[00:13] <asdadsf> only works in vlc
[00:13] <waffle> Hi, i can't get my microphone to work, but sound works fine. I'm on an acer aspire 5315 on 9.04 ubuntu... lspci says i have 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) someone please help
[00:13] <p-f> Slart, everyone else's connection is stable
[00:14] <boss_mc> p-f: for comparison, I get 32903secs off my router...
[00:14] <p-f> Slart, I sometimes get 2-3 hours if I'm lucky, but that's on good days
[00:14] <siliconfalcon> howdy all. I am really going nuts and need some help with connecting to a Windows network share. They can all see me but I can not see them.
[00:14] <caro> hi
[00:14] <chuck_> abdelrahman, not that i can see i do not use hibernation so am not to well versed on it but thought you would like to know your not alone with the problem
[00:14] <Slart> p-f: sounds like something else is causing your problems.. anything interesting in the logs? /var/log/syslog will have some information about dhcp leases and such
[00:14] <sebsebseb> tannersummers_: oh your link says  in the edit that they won't work for hardy (that's 8.04),  that means they  are bound to not work for 8.10 or 9.04 either
[00:15] <boss_mc> siliconfalcon: have you set your workgroup to the right one in /etc/samba/smb.conf?
[00:15] <elli222> Hello, i have a funny problem involving sound. Sound playback works fine, and i have a microphone attached to the -back- of my PC. Playback from that works fine, but i cant seem to capture, unless i plug it into the -front- mic socket...
[00:15] <tannersummers_> sebsebseb well no one in compiz channel well reply to my question
[00:16] <waffle>  Hi, i can't get my microphone to work, but sound works fine. I'm on an acer aspire 5315 on 9.04 ubuntu... lspci says i have 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) someone please help
[00:16] <sebsebseb> tannersummers_: well I don't think anyone in there is being paid to be in there,  same for this channel, and so you just got to wait and have patitence
 boss_mc Yes, I have gone through all the forums suggestions
[00:16] <p-f> Slart, there's a "No IPv6 routers present" message from 'kernel' right after dhclient's bound to blahblah renewal in x seconds...
[00:16] <boss_mc> siliconfalcon: are you trying to connect to vista or XP?
[00:16] <Slart> p-f: hmm.. why not try disabling ipv6.. see if that makes things more stable
[00:16] <siliconfalcon> XP
[00:16] <Slart> !ipv6 | p-f
[00:16] <ruler> can i oot os from the pendrive
[00:16] <p-f> Slart, I'm also seeing a few "wmaster0: unknwon hardware address type 801"
[00:16] <ruler> can i boot os from the pendrive
[00:17] <Slart> p-f: you're running wireless?
[00:17] <boss_mc> ruler: depends on pc/bios
[00:17] <sebsebseb> tannersummers_: well I suppouse you can try the general Linux channel as well ##linux
[00:17] <sebsebseb> tannersummers_: since what you want to do isn't distro specific
[00:17] <elli222> ruler: You can boot operating systems from USB mass storage devices on modern systems
[00:18] <tannersummers_> sebsebseb i have a feeling they well not be much help either lol
[00:18] <gartral> how do i revoke sudo rights from a terminal without logging out or closing the window based terminal?
[00:18] <LinuxMoogle> any one living in canada ontario?
[00:18] <ruler> boss_mc: what type of pc it required
[00:18] <p-f> Slart, yes
[00:18] <chuck_> ruler, if your bios allows it and you burned it right
[00:18] <p-f> Slart, wpa_supplicant + dhclient
[00:18] <boss_mc> ruler: some can, some can't, pretty much anything from the last 5 or so years will though...
[00:18] <elli222> gartal,  sudo -K
[00:18] <siliconfalcon> I removed Jaunty and installed Intrepid but ofcoruse that didn't work either. Fresh install
[00:18] <arrrghhh> anyone use ebox?  i'm having trouble setting which disk usage looks at
[00:18] <reqon> i use an xbox
[00:19] <gartral> elli222: ty, i have AWN and im using the resident terminal app
[00:19] <p1oooop> lagg
[00:19] <p-f> Slart, same config files that have worked for the past ~2 months
[00:19] <p1oooop> :D
[00:19] <LinuxMoogle> any1 living in mississauga?
[00:19] <sebsebseb> tannersummers_: well it has life at the moment
[00:19] <ruler> please tell how can i oot
[00:19] <Slart> p-f: I would start poking the wireless stuff first.. dhcp is pretty stable as far as I know.. I doubt it is killing your connection
[00:19] <ruler> please tell how can i oot
[00:19] <p1oooop> actionparsnip: yo
[00:19] <mgrunde> Anyone know anything about problems using an external display on a laptop using fglrx?
[00:20] <p-f> Slart, I'll keep tail running to get a more precise timing on the messages
 boss_mc XP
[00:20] <elli222> fglrx is full of problems, atleast from what iv'e heard...
[00:20] <Slart> p-f: this looks interesting http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-65355.html
[00:20] <p-f> Slart, although it probably won't disconnect now that I'm looking at it :p
[00:20] <p1oooop> hey ryan_, nice to see someone with the same ISP here
[00:20] <boss_mc> ruler, make your usb (maybe using unetbootin) then shut down, plug in the usb, turn on and on the very first screen you see will be an option to go into setup
[00:20] <ryan_> hey can anyone help me with adding a ram control applet to my panel i had it before i just forget what it's called
[00:20] <ariqs> what setting do I need to have in ubuntu for my access point to ensure that the SSID is being broadcasted?
[00:20] <Slart> p-f: I know it's about fedora and all.. but it seems to be a similar problem
[00:20] <arrrghhh> ebox, not xbox.
[00:20] <Slart> p-f: of course it wont.. it will wait until you've got something important to do =)
[00:20] <boss_mc> ruler, press that button and in the menu there you will be able to set the USB pen as primary boot device
[00:20] <p-f> Slart, I tried playing around with the send command earlier
[00:20] <reqon> oops
[00:20] <p1oooop> ryan_: like a ram freeer?
[00:20] <p-f> Slart, I always ended up with smaller values around 1500s
[00:21] <boss_mc> ruler: then save and exit adn you should boot from the usb
[00:21] <reqon> u mean ps3?
[00:21] <ryan_> ploooop uhm im not sure if that is it. It has a little ram icon next to it then it says like 800ghz or like 1.7 i think
[00:21] <p1oooop> ryan_: thats the CPU clock monitor
[00:21] <mgrunde> ariqs, You should set broadcasting/non-broadcasting from the router, not from Ubuntu
[00:21] <ruler> thanks
[00:21] <p1oooop> ryan_: yea, I use that all the time
[00:21] <ryan_> ploooop ok. thanks. whats the terminal command fo rinstalling
[00:22] <ariqs> mgrunde: I'm using ubuntu as a software access point
[00:22] <ariqs> god
[00:22] <arrrghhh> ryan_, aptitude/apt-get reinstall?
[00:22] <p1oooop> ryan_: uhh, just use the GUI method
[00:22] <ryan_> ploooop roger that thanks for your help
[00:22] <p-f> Slart, I sure am enjoying my connection right now! I hope it doesn't disconnect! *peers suspiciously at his syslog* still nothing
[00:22] <p1oooop> ryan_: it comes with basic ubuntu installation
[00:22] <tesseracter> arrrrg! im trying to get VNC working thru the internet, i set up port forwarding on my router, but i'm still getting "connection refused" when i try to connect
[00:22] <p-f> guess I'll leave it on for the night
[00:22] <ryan_> ploooop oh ahah
[00:22] <Kalmi> tesseracter, does it work locally?
[00:22] <reqon> aarrrgghhh oooooooooooh you mean an alternative to windows server 2003. EBOX!!!
[00:23] <p1oooop> ryan_: right click on top bar
[00:23] <tesseracter> Kalmi: yep.
[00:23] <ryan_> ploooop derr herr im stupid haha
[00:23] <Slart> p-f: hehe... perhaps write a post on the forums.. see if anyone else has had the same problem
[00:23] <ryan_> ploooop i have it thanks =D
[00:23] <mah> mah kittehz are here
[00:23] <Kalmi> tesseracter, any firewall?
[00:23] <p1oooop> ryan_: no prob :D
[00:23] <ryan_> ploooop i'll catcha later!
[00:23] <boss_mc> why is iplayer so badly made...
[00:23] <p1oooop> ryan_: later
[00:23] <tesseracter> Kalmi: none that iu know of, other than the verizon hardware router
[00:24] <Kalmi> tesseracter, than you messed up portforwarding... what port have you forwarded?
[00:24] <elli222> Hello, i have a funny problem involving sound. Sound playback works fine, and i have a microphone attached to the -back- of my PC. Playback from that works fine, but i cant seem to capture, unless i plug it into the -front- mic socket...
[00:25] <ruler> if i forgorren my password any way to enter into ubuntu
[00:25] <eternaljoy> how do I get ubuntu to detect my logitech USB headset?
[00:25] <p-f> Slart, anyways, thanks for trying :)
[00:25] <ruler> if i forgotten my password any way to enter into ubuntu
[00:25] <Kalmi> ruler, recovery mode
[00:25] <Slart> p-f: you're welcome
[00:25] <siliconfalcon> howdy all. I am really going nuts and need some help with connecting to a Windows network share. They can all see me but I can not see them. I am trying to connect to 2 XP machines they both can see me fine. My firewall is turned off and everyone is on the same workgroup.
[00:26] <ruler> recovery mode what should i do
[00:26] <tesseracter> Kalmi: 5500, 5800, and 5900
[00:26] <ruler> kalmi: in recovery mode what should i do
[00:26] <Kalmi> ruler, change the user's password...
[00:26] <boss_mc> ruler: passwd <username>
[00:27] <ruler> kalmi: thanks i will try
[00:27] <mah> hehe ruler is "hacking" into his older sistter's  computer
[00:28] <p1oooop> huh? who cant do that
[00:28] <avdg> can someone help me with grub? (maybe better to pm me)
[00:28] <boss_mc> !pm | avdg
[00:28] <p1oooop> I suck at grup
[00:28] <p1oooop> avdg: what happened
[00:28] <ruler> mah: you are obsolutely correct
[00:28] <arrrghhh> !grub | ploooop
[00:28] <marksman> Flash videos in firefox seem a little jumpy and sometimes the video gets distorted in crazy colors, also flash games don't work.  This happens in Firefox
[00:28] <avdg> i had installer ubuntu, standard, but i had too less space on that partition
[00:28] <mehr> hi everyone
[00:29] <p1oooop> I didnt say I had problems with it.
[00:29] <ruler> mah: one mistake younger sisters  pc
[00:29] <avdg> so i tryed to extend that partition in windows, but grub fails on restart
[00:29] <mehr> farsiiiiiiiiiii
[00:29] <arrrghhh> ploooop there's how-to's there also sheesh.
[00:29] <avdg> im now on the livecd
[00:29] <Pici> !ir | mehr
[00:29] <mehr> who can speak farsi?
[00:30] <p1oooop> avdg: you cannnot partition exts on windows.
[00:30] <p1oooop> avdg: theres your problem.
[00:30] <boss_mc> avdg: it may be that the (hdX,X) changed due to the resize
[00:31] <p1oooop> avdg: that also may be the case ^^^
[00:31] <avdg> also, i cant find /bin/grub
[00:31] <mah> avdg: there are tutorials listed specifically for your type of situation
[00:31] <yo2boy_> hey guys
[00:31] <boss_mc> avdg /usr/sbin/grub
[00:31] <p1oooop> avdg: what partition you using?
[00:31] <PhotoJim> avdg: type "whereis grub' and it will tell you where grub is
[00:31] <the1corrupted> Is there some way I can reinstall my sound drivers?  Something fudged up and all I hear is static where sound used to be.
[00:32] <yo2boy_> How do I open Teamviewer.exe in wine?
[00:32] <yo2boy_> it wont open
[00:32] <avdg> doesnt look like the config file is there ...
[00:32] <nonewmsgs> i cannot get sound with dvds since my intrepid upgrade
[00:32] <avdg> i see only grub-install
[00:32] <boss_mc> avdg: the config file lives in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:32] <yo2boy_> i've installed the setup via wine
[00:32] <p1oooop> the1corrupted: you can probably use gstreamer-properties to choose a sound driver that works
[00:32] <yo2boy_> but
[00:32] <the1corrupted> yo2boy_ You need WINE, or a Virtual Windows Machine to run .exe files.  Check with #winehq
[00:32] <avdg> boss_mc: i dont have /boot/grub/
[00:33] <harjot[1]> guys what is the kubuntu channel name???
[00:33] <avdg> was typo :p
[00:33] <boss_mc> avdg: you have a /boot yes?
[00:33] <nonewmsgs> Haraken, $kubuntu
[00:33] <boss_mc> avdg: ok
[00:33] <avdg> yes
[00:33] <nonewmsgs> Haraken, #kubuntu
[00:33] <boss_mc> avdg: good
[00:33] <Pici> harjot[1]: #kubuntu oddly enough
[00:33] <harjot[1]> haha lol thanks
[00:33] <p1oooop> lol
[00:33] <reqon> (mental thought) I've always crawled back to Windows - I aarrgghh WHY!, im a taitor!
[00:33] <avdg> there are only 7 files in there
[00:34] <p1oooop> reqon: yea, i know that kinda sucks right..
[00:34] <boss_mc> avdg: stage1 stage1_5 stage2 menu.lst and a few others
[00:34] <p1oooop> avdg: you wanna look for menu.lst
[00:34] <reqon> I really...... really!...... dont want do!!
[00:34] <siliconfalcon> Howdy all, I am going nuts trying to see my Windows XP machines on my network. They can all see me and play with my files but I can not see them. I have installed Samba and followed all the forums but I am still missing something
[00:34] <avdg> p1ooop: i cant find the menu.lst :(
[00:35] <elli222> My backpanel Mic socket only works when i am root, what is going on?
[00:35] <boss_mc> avdg: that could explain why it can't boot...
[00:35] <p1oooop> siliconfalcon: perhaps your network does not allow the viewing of your networkmates
[00:35] <the1corrupted> ploooop: Not to select one..  Reinstall it...  Like I said, something fudged up.
[00:35] <Kalmi> siliconfalcon, can you connect to them by ip address? Places->Connect to-> Windows share
[00:35] <siliconfalcon> ,msg> Kalmi I can ping them
[00:35] <p1oooop> the1corrupted: yea, something with alsa and stuff
[00:35] <nejode> siliconfalcon: is testparm OK?
[00:36] <Kalmi> siliconfalcon, ...
[00:36] <avdg> so i need to reïnstall grub?
[00:36] <p1oooop> the1corrupted: should be somewhere in the repositories
[00:36] <reqon> everything works except my favourite game of all!! Time!!!!!...... DEAD SPACE!!! aarrrggghhh! "dam u fglrx! DAM U! ATI dam U! AMD!
 nejode #ubunt
[00:36] <elli222> Hey, AMD is fine!
[00:36] <Pici> reqon: calm down
[00:37] <mah> reqon: you have windows, yes?
[00:37] <elli222> They just bought ATI :x
 nejode sorry, says server role is stand alone
[00:37] <p1oooop> reqon: ok, take a few deep breaths
[00:37] <Kalmi> reqon: ##windows
[00:37] <p1oooop> reqon: and count to ten, slowly
[00:37] <Kalmi> siliconfalcon, that is not what I asked...
[00:37] <ruler> in my xp os cd there is autorun.inf can i remove it
[00:37] <nejode> siliconfalcon: that's ok
[00:37] <mah> reqon: while fixing usability is good, you might as well play those games in windows, as they ares smoother
[00:37] <reqon> (breathing) 1,2 miss a few 9,10.......ok fell better
[00:37] <kyle205> okay, so I've managed to make a mess of my Ubuuntu install, would copying my home folder to a thumb drive and restoring it to a new install be the best way to retain all my files, while still starting anew?
[00:38] <avdg> boss_mc? reinstall grub?
[00:38] <p1oooop> the1corrupted: did you try sudo apt-get install alsa?
 Kalmi no I can't connect using the ip
[00:38] <mah> avdg: follow any of the many common tutorials for that, or get supergrubdisk
[00:38] <boss_mc> avdg: that probably won't help unfortunately
[00:38] <ruler> in xp os cd there is autorun.inf if i write it affect my pc
[00:38] <Roasted> I'm trying to network a printer from Ubuntu to an XP machine. I have samba set up and my printer appeared when I connect to my server. I right clicked, hit connect, connected it to the driver, and now it appears - but it says access denied, unable to connect.
[00:38] <the1corrupted> ploooop: Yes.  I even tried removing it and reinstalling it.  (I already have all the sound drivers, but I shut down VMWare inappropriately and it fudged up how Linux interacts with the sound card)
[00:39] <avdg> mah: i'll try supergrubdisk
[00:39] <kyle205> ....
[00:39] <Kalmi> siliconfalcon, try this: smbclient -L 192.168.X.X (replace X with the actual ip of one of the machines...) You should see the shares
[00:39] <yo2boy_> why is #winehq so dead
[00:39] <nejode> kyle205: it won't work on a thundrive with fat
[00:39] <alphaaquilae> hpw can i set the terminal options so that i can determine the size of the consol window when opnened
[00:39] <p1oooop> the1corrupted: ahh, you're using vmware
[00:39] <mah> avdg: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[00:39] <p1oooop> the1corrupted: kinda problematic... when you're doing soundcards
[00:39] <kyle205> nejode, but it would save me files while still not affecting the new system's settings?
[00:39] <avdg> ty mah
 kalmi yes I see them! yay!
[00:40] <yo2boy_> I have this problem with either Teamviewer.exe or Wine
[00:40] <yo2boy_> It wont open the file
[00:40] <p1oooop> the1corrupted: I never got it to run properly with my soundcard nor my video device
[00:40] <yo2boy_> I've installed the setup.exe via wine
[00:40] <ruler> can i open autorun.inf in ubuntu if i double clic the document file if it affect ubuntu?
[00:40] <the1corrupted> ploooop: No, I had it all fine, but when my computer froze, I had to reboot...  After that, all the sound in linux is static while in VMWare sounds just fine.
[00:40] <yo2boy_> but the normal file wont run
[00:40] <chemikalz> oxycontin
[00:40] <Kalmi> siliconfalcon, than you should be able to connect by ip... try again... make sure you get the share name right...
[00:40] <nejode> kyle, but it won't retail symlinks and permissions
[00:41] <nejode> *retain
[00:41] <boss_mc> avdg: http://paste.debian.net/37651/
[00:41] <ruler> can i open autorun.inf in ubuntu if i double clic the document file if it affect ubuntu?
[00:41] <fryguy> ruler: what do you mean?
[00:41] <boss_mc> avdg: you'll want to update it to match your settings and disc map
[00:42] <marksman> It seems that transferring files from an ubuntu box over a wireless network to a vista box is very slow.  The maximum speed is around 150 KBps, but it is a wireelss N network....   Any ideas?
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> ruler:  those are just text files.. use an editor to open them
[00:42] <ruler> fryguy : if i double click autorun.inf file if it affect my os
[00:42] <avdg> srr i don't know how to use it :( im a linux noob
 kalmi yea, that worked. Thank you
[00:42] <fryguy> ruler: that isn't english, please rephrase
[00:42] <p1oooop> the1corrupted: mmm, yea... someone help corrupted, out of my field
[00:42] <reqon> ok install of flgrx drivers and prolly update kernel to 2.6.28.11-generic it MITE JUST WORK!....im a genius....muahahahahaha muahahahaha!
 kalmi Not sure why I never put in the share name before though
[00:42] <boss_mc> avdg: or just run sudo update-grub to create a correct one for yourself
[00:43] <p1oooop> the1corrupted: yea, not really my field
[00:43] <ruler> fryguy
[00:43] <ruler> fryguy: i am tamil student not so goood in english
[00:43] <ghindo> Can I run VLC without a GUI?
[00:43] <fryguy> ghindo: yes
[00:44] <ghindo> fryguy: Thanks for the quick answer.
[00:44] <p1oooop> ghindo: LOL, it wouldn't really be worth it tho
[00:44] <byte^> I have one Ubuntu install. If I install another one, will I need to fix GRUB again?
[00:44] <fryguy> p1oooop: sure it would, there's plenty of reasons why you'd want to do that
[00:44] <p1oooop> ghindo: no video, only sound....
[00:44] <coz_> ghindo,   http://wiki.videolan.org/Documentation:Documentation
[00:44] <ghindo> p1oooop: I was thinking of using it to just stream video over a LAN...
[00:44] <fryguy> byte^: it should take care of it for you as part of the installation process
[00:44] <Kalmi> siliconfalcon, yw :)
[00:44] <ghindo> coz_: Thanks :)
[00:45] <tvbox> i've got a set of commands using xrandr that enable my s-video out so my TV works but i want to know how to enable them on login or boot
[00:45] <p1oooop> ghindo: ahh, ok
[00:45] <byte^> How do you mean, fryguy? Will it detect I already have it and know I don´t need another one?
[00:45] <Roasted> Printer Question - I have a printer on my Ubuntu machine. The policies were set up according to Ubuntu's web site. When the XP machine connects to it, it says access denied. According to the policy on my Ubuntu machine, it's allowable to everyone.  How can I fix this?
[00:45] <p1oooop> ghindo: that'll work...
[00:45] <coz_> ghindo,  here is the home page   http://www.videolan.org/
[00:45] <fryguy> tvbox: add them to whatever you use to initialize your x11 session (gnome-session unless you changed things)
[00:45] <fryguy> byte^: yes
[00:46] <byte^> Okay.
[00:46] <racarter> i need help with audio
[00:46] <reqon> yes....yes.....no no no.......yes......yes yes!
[00:46] <fryguy> byte^: more specifically it will reinstall it, and add the old ubuntu install to the new menu
[00:46] <racarter> http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/imic/ --> I'm using this. it used to work but now doesn't. how can i troubleshoot this?
[00:46] <byte^> Alright, so it will import all the other entries?
[00:46] <fryguy> byte^: no
[00:47] <byte^> So I´ĺl need to add them again.
[00:47] <fryguy> byte^: yes
[00:47] <byte^> Hmmm.
[00:47] <racarter> http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/imic/ --> I'm using this. it used to work but now doesn't. how can i troubleshoot this?
[00:47] <fryguy> byte^: or just copy the menu.lst from your other install
[00:47] <racarter> sorry for repeating myself...
[00:47] <byte^> Yeah I´d probably do that.
[00:47] <chuck_> ghindo, cvlc
[00:47] <p1oooop> well, later guys i g2g have some tun
[00:47] <p1oooop> *fun
[00:47] <tvbox> fryguy i'm happy to add them to the gnome-session file, where is it kept (reasonably clean install)
[00:48] <fryguy> racarter: is the device detected, is there a driver loaded for it? is the volume muted, is the right mixer being used? are the right settings for the mixer available? have you tried disabling pulseaudio and using alsa directly? have you tried using oss?
[00:48] <byte^> If I can play sound correctly from flash videos online, why am I getting hardware beeps for system errors? Is there a way to change this?
[00:48] <fryguy> tvbox: no idea, i don't use gnome, probably gnome-session-properties or something
[00:48] <racarter> the device is detected. I'm using the sound preferences gui tool in gnome, i've tried the alsa and oss drivers for this device but none work (they used to earlier today...)
[00:49] <Kalmi> byte^, you could blacklist the pcspkr kernel module
[00:49] <RukusX> hey how do you install Qt3 properly?
[00:49] <joanki123> can anyone recommend a netbook that works really well with the ubuntu operating sys?
[00:49] <byte^> Kalmi: What exactly would that mean?? By blacklisting it would it force it play a system wav? IS there a sound that is supposed to be used when an error has occured?
[00:49] <fryguy> joanki123: pretty much any of them
[00:49] <racarter> nevermind, the oss drivers work now
[00:49] <byte^> I mean, if it is supposed to play system beeps, then everything is fine I suppose.
[00:50] <joanki123> i was going to buy a dell mini 12, but the graphics card isn't really colmpatible
[00:50] <fryguy> byte^: what error are you referring to
[00:50] <byte^> Ive had troubles with my sound before and I want to make sure that everything is fine
[00:50] <avdg> muh: tuts doesnt help
[00:50] <byte^> fryguy: For install, trying to backspace on an empty text box?
[00:50] <Kalmi> byte^, yeah... beeps are supposed to come out of the machine :)
[00:50] <byte^> instance*
[00:51] <byte^> I know beeps are supposed t ocome out of the machine, Iḿ just making sure that Ubuntu isnt similar to windows in the fact that it does not play a WAV file (etc) on an error
[00:51] <avdg> mah: tuts doesnt work (not any)
[00:51] <byte^> I just want to make sure that the sound is working okay
[00:51] <coz_> byte^,  ubuntu will play WAV  you need to also have  ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:51] <byte^> How can I do this?
[00:51] <coz_> byte^,   but it works fine here
[00:51] <heresjohnny> So someone sent me an encrypted email and their public key. I've imported their key and have the ascii encrypted email saved as a text file
[00:51] <heresjohnny> How do I decrypt it?
[00:52] <heresjohnny> gpg -d enc.txt doesn't work
[00:52] <byte^> is there a command utility that I can use to make sure the sound is working correctly? I forget.
[00:52] <fryguy> !work | heresjohnny
[00:52] <fryguy> byte^: does your system play sound?
[00:52] <heresjohnny> fryguy, thanks :)
[00:52] <chuck_> byte^,  open system/preferences/sound
[00:52] <racarter> http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/imic/ --> I'm using this. now test sound works but I am not getting sound from youtube and stuff
[00:52] <heresjohnny> fryguy, gpg -d enc.txt does not properly decrypt the ascii armor encrypted text file
[00:52] <byte^> fryguy: It plays sound through flash videos (Youtube) but I haven been able to check any other methods
[00:52] <fryguy> racarter: install alsa-oss and configure firefox to use the aoss dsp
[00:53] <byte^> Iḿ just overly paranoid
[00:53] <racarter> fryguy: what?
[00:53] <byte^> WTF is wrong with this keyboard.... Gah.
[00:53] <racarter> fryguy: the device seems to work outside firefox
[00:53] <fryguy> racarter: install alsa-oss, then create a firefoxrc and configure FIREFOX-DSP to use aoss
[00:53] <mah> byte^: that's the wrong attitide.  you have to break it and then fix it
[00:53] <alex-weej> heresjohnny: you know, encrypted email should be supported by your mail client so you wouldn't have to go through this...
[00:53] <fryguy> racarter: you just said test works
[00:53] <byte^> mah: I suppose, I just like to double check I guess
[00:53] <fryguy> racarter: so which is it?
[00:53] <crazyhick> I'm looking to back-up a copy of my DVDs ... what's the best way to do this (app?)
[00:54] <fryguy> crazyhick: dd
[00:54] <byte^> From an ext3 file system, am I able to access (read/write) an ext4 system? or vice-versa? I forget how the compatibility goes.
[00:54] <heresjohnny> alex-weej, and my mail client is gmail with no outgoing port 143 access so that doesn't work
[00:54] <racarter> fryguy: i don't really understand... test sound works with the sound app in gnome, but it is not working in firefox...
[00:54] <fryguy> racarter: install alsa-oss and configure firefox to use the aoss dsp
[00:54] <joanki123> fryguy, that's not really true - a lot of dell computers have weird graphics cards
[00:54] <jc_> hi
[00:54] <Kalmi> byte^, both ways
[00:54] <joanki123> or sound cards
[00:54] <alex-weej> heresjohnny: no labs feature for it?
[00:54] <fryguy> joanki123: define "weird"  it's either intel, nvidia, or ati, and they all work in some level or another
[00:54] <Roasted> Printer Question - I have a printer on my Ubuntu machine. The policies were set up according to Ubuntu's web site. When the XP machine connects to it, it says access denied. According to the policy on my Ubuntu machine, it's allowable to everyone.  How can I fix this?
[00:55] <mrwes> crazyhick: use K9copy and burn the iso with K3b
[00:55] <racarter> fryguy: I don't know how to do those things, but this used to work earlier today
[00:55] <alex-weej> fryguy: why are you doing this to racarter? :(
[00:55] <fryguy> alex-weej: doing what? giving him the answer to his question?
[00:55] <joanki123> fryguy, to my knowledge the card had very little support
[00:55] <alex-weej> racarter: if you see the letters "oss", run a mile.
[00:55] <mrwes> !k9copy
[00:55] <heresjohnny> alex-weej, nope
[00:55] <racarter> i'm pretty sure this is not a driver issue..
[00:55] <fryguy> alex-weej: you realize that adobe flash is compiled to only use oss, right?
[00:55] <Kalmi> Roasted, I never needed to set up any policies....
[00:56] <Roasted> kalmi - its just the policy section where you hit a few check boxes.
[00:56] <crazyhick> cool
[00:56] <alex-weej> fryguy: no, it isn't. it uses ALSA since a very, very long time
[00:56] <Roasted> kalmi - How do you set up printers? Like howd you set up yours personally?
[00:56] <boss_mc> fryguy: except the new version which uses alsa, pulse and oss
[00:56] <bk> Whats a good OS for Ubuntu? Ive tried installing ClamAV but I get errors that I cannot fix.
[00:56] <fryguy> bk: ?
[00:56] <mrwes> crazyhick: k9copy will shrink a DVD9 to a DVD5
[00:56] <alex-weej> bk: by OS you mean... AV?
[00:56] <fryguy> bk: ubuntu is an OS
[00:56] <aaditya> bk: anti-virus?
[00:56] <bk> aaditya: yea sorry
[00:57] <bk> had my mind on os
[00:57] <bk> haha
[00:57] <aaditya> bk: Ubuntu catches no viruses..
[00:57] <alex-weej> why do you need AV?
[00:57] <aaditya> !virus | bk
[00:57] <alex-weej> common sense >>>>> any av software
[00:57] <bk> aaditya: I use windows machines in my network that I get files from.
[00:57] <heresjohnny> aaditya, you don't need an antivirus scanner for Linux. Unlike windows, Linux was built from a secure foundation
[00:57] <Kalmi> Roasted, um... install... make sure shared is ticked...
[00:58] <aaditya> heresjohnny: thanks for letting me know..
[00:58] <mrwes> bk: install ClamAV and and the GUI
[00:58] <heresjohnny> sorry about that :)
[00:58] <aaditya> bk: check the link that ubottu sent you
[00:58] <mrwes> !clamav
[00:58] <bk> mrwes: clamav is the one i get an error on, i installed it through apt-get, then uninstalled, and yea
[00:58] <mrwes> er
[00:58] <Roasted> kalmi - then what? What do you do on the XP machine to connect it?
[00:58] <mrwes> bk: what was the error? The one about the engine being outdated?
[00:58] <chaos2fu> hii everyone, how do i show which current graphic driver im using?
[00:59] <bk> mrwes: something like that, ive pastebind it, brb
[00:59] <aaditya> chaos2fu: lspci
[00:59] <fryguy> chaos2fu: /var/log/Xorg.log.0 will tell you
[00:59] <Kalmi> Roasted,  do you have samba installed?
[00:59] <eseven73> I get that error too, about clamav being outdated
[00:59] <byte^> If I choose not to install boot loader when install Ubuntu (I have another installation of it on another partition with GRUB), how do I know what to add to GRUB for me to boot it? The linux kernel entries in GRUB seem to  be really complex...
[00:59] <fryguy> aaditya: lspci lists device, not associated drivers
[00:59] <Sarai> chaos2fu: lspci | grep VGA
[00:59] <mrwes> bk: blah...it's just the engine that's outdated, it'll work fine and freshclam will update your AV defs
[00:59] <Roasted> kalmi - yep
[00:59] <aaditya> fryguy: ah i see
[00:59] <bk> mrwes: http://flotier.pastebin.com/m7bb54537
[00:59] <mrwes> bk: I run ClamAV on my sever and it says the same thing about the engine
[01:00] <fryguy> byte^: just copy another entry and change the location, it's pretty straightforward
[01:00] <byte^> Yeah I was just wondering.
[01:01] <bk> mrwes: is that my problem?
[01:01] <chaos2fu> ok im looking..
[01:01] <mrwes> bk: no. are you installing this from the command line?
[01:02] <mrwes> bk: you need to install clam-data, clamav-freshclam too
[01:03] <bk> i did that and got the same error mrwes
[01:05] <mrwes> bk: weird, seems it init.d can't start the fresh-clam: #
[01:05] <mrwes> invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/clamav-freshclam not found.
[01:05] <mrwes> #
[01:05] <mrwes> dpkg: error processing clamav-freshclam (--configure):
[01:05] <FloodBot2> mrwes: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:05] <mrwes> four lines is a flood?
[01:05] <mrwes> heh
[01:05] <boss_mc> 4 lines in a short period of time
[01:05] <MattCampbell> Which is the preferred command-line APT front-end now:  apt-get or aptitude?
[01:05] <Pici> MattCampbell: apt-get
[01:06] <boss_mc> MattCampbell: whichever you are comfortable with, don't mix them any more than you have to though
[01:06] <Pici> From what I've been told, there is more developer focus on apt-get than on aptitude
[01:06] <judgen> Would it be a safe bet to say that there is only one 300mb wireless cip for linux.
[01:06] <judgen> ralink?
[01:06] <mrwes> bk: you're trying to install ClamAV from the command line, on a server install or desktop?
[01:06] <aaditya> !apt-get
[01:07] <barqers> How can I get my ubuntu computer connected to my windows network?
[01:07] <boss_mc> MattCampbell: remember that apt-get has super cow powers
[01:07] <Bob_Dole> I wasn't even aware there was a 300MB wireless chip o_o
[01:07] <aaditya> ubottu: tell barqers about samba
[01:07] <judgen> Is ther any other wireless chipset supported in linux able to do 300mbit than ralink?
[01:07] <judgen> bobbafet1 802.11n
[01:08] <elli222> \quit
[01:08] <MattCampbell> Is automatic removal of automatically installed packages a feature of aptitude or APT itself?
[01:08] <bk> mrwes: desktop
[01:08] <Roasted> Is there any way I can tag a windows printer driver to a printer through samba so when the person connects to it they auto-download the windows driver for it?
[01:08] <bk> mrwes: laptop actuall
[01:08] <bk> y
[01:08] <mrwes> bk: use synaptic manager instead of command line
[01:08] <boss_mc> MattCampbell: aptitude does it on the fly, apt-get has to have autoremove called
[01:09] <bk> mrwes: i did, got the same exact error
[01:10] <Bob_Dole> if there was a SPARC port of ubuntu, that'd be nice.. I could run Ubuntu on everything of mine, which in the near future will include PowerPC and ARM..and currently includes SPARC and x86.
[01:10] <aaditya> MattCampbell: automatic removal of which packages? like dependencies no longer required?
[01:10] <mrwes> bk: did you try a complete removal and re-installation?
[01:10] <aaditya> !sparc | Bob_Dole
[01:10] <bk> mrwes: yes, and i made sure all processes were stopped for clam as well
[01:10] <aaditya> ouch, sparc docs are missing
[01:11] <Bob_Dole> aaditya, The requested URL /ubuntu/install/sparc/ was not found on this server.
[01:11] <avdg> damm, i've reader all suggested tuts about repairing grub, all with dead end :(
[01:12] <neoTheCat> good morning.  i have two 9.04 boxes running on my lan.  to tried x11vnc and gnome remote desktop, and they both are INCREDIBILY slow, almost unusable.  has anybody else seen this problem?
[01:12] <neoTheCat> or how i can use freenx to start connect to a local session...
[01:12] <Kalmi> neoTheCat, freenx to local session is slow
[01:13] <aaditya> Bob_Dole: i've conveyed it to the admins. it should be fixed soon.
[01:13] <fryguy> neoTheCat: try xpra
[01:13] <Loganhoup> Funkyhat
[01:13] <aaditya> Bob_Dole: here's the correct link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Sparc
[01:13] <mrwes> bk: I'm stumped, unless it's a bug
[01:14] <p1oooop> mmmm
[01:14] <mrwes> bk: I didn't see anything in launchpad, maybe you should file it?
[01:14] <deeb0> Hello everyone, quick question.... I just installed ubuntu inside windows... was wondering how I would go about accessing my windows files from within ubuntu
[01:14] <p1oooop> hey Mr. Wes
[01:14] <p1oooop> :D
[01:14] <p1oooop> you work anywhere in socal?
[01:14] <fryguy> deeb0: hard drive should be available in the left hand panel of nautilus by default
[01:14] <mrwes> er...hello p1oooop
[01:14] <barqers> aaditya: I installed samba4, but i don't know how to open it.
[01:15] <avdg> p1ooooop: i tryed a lot of tuts, but it looks like grub is damaged :(
[01:15] <Bob_Dole> Hmm, so I need a newer model SPARC? I got a Sun Ultra 5, with an UltraSPARCIIi, 400mhz.
[01:15] <nouri> Hello.  I was hoping for the Gnome drawer applet to be able to hold Windows, so that they disappear from the Window list.  I have some apps that I'm permanently running, and that I don't want to show up in any desktop.
[01:15] <p1oooop> avdg: ahh, that totally makes sense
[01:15] <bk> mrwes: might need to
[01:15] <Bob_Dole> also aaditya, thanks.
[01:15] <mrwes> bk: it's one way to get a response, maybe there is a work a round
[01:15] <mrwes> I would
[01:15] <aaditya> Bob_Dole: you're welcome :)
[01:16] <bk> mrwes: ok how? through the ff plugin?
[01:16] <p1oooop> avdg: you can always reinstall
[01:16] <mrwes> bk: try ubuntu-bug clamav
[01:16] <nouri> And anyone have an idea how I could start up Jackd before Pulseaudio starts on my Ubuntu?
[01:16] <avdg> any guide to that?
[01:17] <barqers> is samba only command line? or is there a gui for it?
[01:17] <deeb0> fryguy: You mean when I go to Places > Computer ?
[01:17] <aaditya> barqers: there's a nautilus extension that'll allow you to share folders from GUI
[01:17] <fryguy> nouri: first google result for your exact question should be helpful: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-875378.html
[01:17] <fryguy> deeb0: yes
[01:17] <mrwes> barqers: you can connect via Nautilus
[01:17] <aaditya> barqers: it's called nautilus-share
[01:18] <aaditya> !info nautilus-share | barqers
[01:18] <avdg> p1ooooop: do you know some guides to it?
[01:18] <p1oooop> barqers: it's usually included if installed using repository
[01:18] <nouri> fryguy: oops, looking
[01:18] <p1oooop> avdg: I think there is a command line command
[01:18] <deeb0> fryguy: well on the left it says Desktop, File System, Newton, Trash ....
[01:18] <aaditya> !sparc
[01:18] <avdg> p1ooooop: im a noob in linux
[01:18] <deeb0> Network*
[01:19] <dsdeiz> what's up ubuntu guys?
[01:19] <geoaxis> fryguy:  some times this also helps also , to encounrage people to use google http://tinyurl.com/aq6n83
[01:19] <aaditya> dsdeiz: not much, what's going on?
[01:19] <p1oooop> avdg: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[01:19] <p1oooop> avdg: hows that?
[01:20] <dsdeiz> aaditya: not much too.. ;)
[01:20] <bk> mrwes: k
[01:20] <p1oooop> you running on windows or ubuntu live cd
[01:20] <deeb0> Me?
[01:20] <p1oooop> deeb0: woops
[01:20] <MrDarkUser> does anybody know how to turn of tap-to-click for laptop touchpads?
[01:20] <p1oooop> deeb0: sorry bout that :D
[01:21] <MattCampbell> To those who said apt-get is the recommended command-line APT front-end, I wonder why aptitude is in the standard install then.
[01:21] <aaditya> !touchpad | MrDarkUser
[01:21] <fryguy> MrDarkUser: it's probably on by default
[01:21] <jaypur_mb> i'm having some little problems releated to games on ubuntu, can someone help me? the problem is that when i start some games, it keeps "going down" like its pressed my down key....
[01:21] <deeb0> ploooop:  I chose the option to install in Windows and not full installation
[01:21] <p1oooop> avdg: using ubuntu live cd or windows?
[01:21] <reqon> MrDarkUser, nope but i cant pat my head and rub my tummy at the same time
[01:21] <deeb0> oh
[01:21] <permanewb> urgh. I think I'm screwed. I'm upgrading to 9.04. I have a KVM switch. Now it's stopped recognizing the keyboard and it's prompting me... syslog shows the kernel noticing when I've unplugged and plugged in the keyboard, but it's not getting picked up by X, I guess... Any thoughts on how to recover?
[01:21] <p1oooop> deeb0: LOL
[01:21] <Nrbelex> Hi, I just added openSUSE to my computer as a dual-boot, but openSUSE overwrote GRUB and I can no longer boot into Ubuntu, how can I reinstall GRUB with options for Ubuntu and openSUSE?
[01:21] <p1oooop> deeb0: I'll try ot answer
[01:21] <deeb0> ploooop: lol, thanks.
[01:22] <MrDarkUser> fryguy: yeah, I need it off, I don't understand why it's on by default
[01:22] <p1oooop> deeb0: so, what exactly is the problem?
[01:22] <deeb0> ploooop:  I just want to be able to access my windows files from ubuntu
[01:22] <barqers> aaditya: how do i access nautilus share?
[01:22] <p1oooop> deeb0: ahh
[01:22] <p1oooop> deeb0: you wanna mount it...
[01:22] <aaditya> right click on a directory and hit "Sharing options"
[01:22] <aaditya> barqers: right click on a directory and hit "Sharing options"
[01:23] <graelin> Nrbelex: Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and the run grub --install-partition I think.. probly wanna check that though
[01:23] <p1oooop> deeb0: have you tried mounting?
[01:23] <aaditya> !ntfs | deeb0
[01:24] <hackel> Does anyone know of a way to add a login script for NetworkManager? (e.g. that will run when logging onto certain access points that require you to log in to use the connection)
[01:25] <Nrbelex> graelin, where is /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[01:25] <fryguy> Nrbelex: it's right where you just said, that's a filesystem location
[01:25] <Roasted> Okay, I still don't get this. I have samba installed, along with my printer installed and published in CUPS in Ubuntu. Now, what do I do on the windows XP machine to connect it to the printer on my Ubuntu machine?
[01:25] <barqers> aaditya: And do I have to set this up to see onto my windows network? my network is: "Franco Home"
[01:25] <Nrbelex> fryguy, on the Ubuntu root partition?
[01:25] <p1oooop> hackel: you tried compiling a DIY version?
[01:25] <fryguy> Roasted: add the printer to /etc/samba/smb.conf and reload the configuration
[01:25] <fryguy> Nrbelex: yes
[01:26] <hackel> p1oooop: No, I was hoping it could be done without programming the functionality myself!
[01:26] <permanewb> is there maybe a utility that I can run on my X server to click the button that I need to click (my keyboard isn't responding in X, but I can launch X apps.
[01:26] <aaditya> barqers: is that a domain or a workgroup?
[01:26] <p1oooop> hackel: yea, always best not to recompile your own :D
[01:26] <Roasted> fryguy - I wasnt aware I needed to actually add the printer to my smb.conf... I was told all I need to do is share it through CUPS and I'm done. I just don't know what to do with the Windows side of it as far as connecting.
[01:27] <fryguy> Roasted: if it's shared correctly, you connect to it like you connect to any other share
[01:27] <p1oooop> hackel: you want the script to do what senstially?
[01:27] <p1oooop> hackel: hack someone's connection :D
[01:27] <deeb0> ubottu:  That's the thing I can't even see my windows files... ntfs-3g doesn't allow me to check internal write support
[01:27] <Roasted> fryguy - meaning what? start - run - \\ubuntuserver, right click my printer, hit connect?
[01:27] <fryguy> Roasted: yes
[01:27] <p1oooop> deeb0: ubottu is a bot
[01:27] <deeb0> lol
[01:27] <deeb0> oops
[01:28] <deeb0> i meant to say ploooop
[01:28] <p1oooop> deeb0: LOL, happened to me
[01:28] <justfil> How can I hide the File, edit, view... menu in opera?
[01:28] <stroyan> Roasted:  sudo cupsaddsmb -a
[01:28] <Roasted> fryguy - That works, EXCEPT I get access denied - unable to connect on the windows machine.
[01:28] <permanewb> if I get a ps2 keyboard, will it be recognized as soon as it's plugged in, i.e. without rebooting? (I'm running 8.10 and am in the middle of upgrading to 9.04)
[01:28] <barqers> aaditya: it's a workgroup
[01:28] <fryguy> Roasted: so then make sure you are in the same workgroup/domain and are passing along the correct credentials
[01:28] <p1oooop> deeb0: you tried force mounting... not recommended but it works
[01:29] <Kalmi> permanewb, no... the BIOS disables the PS2 port if there is nothing plugged when bootinh
[01:29] <hackel> p1oooop: No, what are you talking about?  I need to log in to the wireless network I use all the time, I wrote a script to do that, and I want NetworkManager to run it when I connect to that particular ESSID but before it marks the connection as active.
[01:29] <fryguy> Kalmi: no
[01:29] <permanewb> Kalmi thaks
[01:29] <Kalmi> fryguy, no?
[01:29] <fryguy> Kalmi: no
[01:29] <Kalmi> fryguy, as you wish
[01:30] <Gourlis> ATI Radeon X1250 not working on Ubuntu 9.04 -  Anyone who has the same problem with me? Or anyone who solved that?
[01:30] <aaditya> barqers: it should work right away. for more info, check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[01:30] <nonewmsgs> i cannot get sound with dvds since my intrepid upgrade
[01:30] <fryguy> !work | Gourlis
[01:30] <deeb0> ploooop: Well I just went to the link posted by the bot and I tried the pysdm package... the thing is my ubuntu is installed in the same partition as my windows
[01:30] <Roasted> fryguy - Everything is in the workgroup - workgroup and I am connected right now just fine... I am in my share browsing, so I have no idea why I have access denied to the printer. Hence my ongoing confusion.
[01:30] <p1oooop> hackel: ahh, okay.... kind of an extra security feature right?
[01:30] <fryguy> Roasted: probably because you shared the printer using a different mechanism
[01:30] <deeb0> ploooop:  I didn't do full installation.... I did "Install in Windows" option
[01:30] <hackel> p1oooop: yes, this is very common on corporate wifi networks, and services like boingo, t-mobile, etc.
[01:30] <Gourlis> fryguy, and?
[01:30] <Kalmi> deeb0, oh... that's the problem...
[01:31] <Roasted> fryguy - I just followed the directions. No idea why it wouldn't work...
[01:31] <barqers> aaditya: But where do I go to access it? like i've clicked Places>Network>Windows Network, but i get an error. I can't seem to find FRANCOHOME
[01:31] <deeb0> I figured
[01:31] <p1oooop> hackel: yup... kinda annoying dont you think?
[01:31] <deeb0> Kalmi: So it's not possible huh?
[01:31] <Gourlis> fryguy, I know my ATI isn't supported on Ubuntu 9.04 so am asking if anyone found anything about it.
[01:31] <Roasted> fryguy - just rebooted the XP computer and now it says ready... hmmm??
[01:31] <fryguy> Gourlis: ati is supported just fine
[01:31] <hackel> p1oooop: Yes, very!
[01:31] <Roasted> fryguy - It seems to be hanging up when I try to actually print though. Great...
[01:31] <aaditya> barqers: that's how you'd access it. not sure what's wrong with it. i'd recommend using ssh/sftp on windows machines for file sharing though
[01:31] <Gourlis> fryguy, no it's not. At least for my model.
[01:32] <p1oooop> Gourlis: yea, you think.... it freaking kills my computer all the time
[01:32] <Kalmi> deeb0, i don't think it is... you could force it, but that is probably very unsafe...
[01:32] <Gourlis> ploooop, same problems here.
[01:32] <fryguy> Gourlis: the ati, or radeon driver will work just fine with any ati card
[01:32] <p1oooop> hackel: I'm guessing maybe as a last resource
[01:32] <deeb0> Kalmi: unsafe as in?
[01:32] <barqers> aaditya: Okay, thank you!
[01:32] <Gourlis> fryguy, for the ATI Radeon X1250 no drivers found for Ubuntu 9.04
[01:32] <p1oooop> hackel: maybe meaning DIY compiling...
[01:32] <aaditya> barqers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/TransferFiles
[01:32] <fryguy> Gourlis: so use the ati or radeon driver
[01:32] <Bob_Dole> Well then, Ubuntu isn't going to my choice for SPARC, looks like 6.06 is the last release for SPARC, the install guide assumes a headless server, etc. I've got a workstation, and wouldn't want to use anything earlier than 8.04 :(
[01:33] <Kalmi> deeb0, might damage your windows file system
[01:33] <deeb0> grrr
[01:33] <Kalmi> :)
[01:33] <Gourlis> fryguy, u didn't understand
[01:33] <deeb0> Why me?
[01:33] <deeb0> lol
[01:33] <p1oooop> deeb0: yup...
[01:33] <permanewb> .. any suggestions? My usb keyboard has stopped being recognized, and I'm being prompted to save or replace a config file, in the middle of upgrading to 9.04... I've I turn of the computer, it's not going to just continue the installation when it restarts, I supposed.
[01:33] <deeb0> Have you guys seen it happen often?
[01:33] <fryguy> Gourlis: i understand just fine.  you aren't trying to use the ati or radeon driver
[01:33] <Gourlis> fryguy, how should I try? From where?
[01:33] <Kalmi> deeb0, a real install (not wubi) can safely read/write files on a windows partition
[01:33] <fryguy> Gourlis: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:33] <p1oooop> deeb0: I haven't had it damage my filesystem thankgod, but I've heard of people with mutilated filesystems
[01:33] <hackel> p1oooop: Well it's not as if it's just a matter of re-compiling, I would have to write the code too, that's the hard part!  If it annoys me enough, I might consider doing it...
[01:34] <Gourlis> fryguy, by typing that into Terminal ?
[01:34] <deeb0> blah... so I guess I have to uninstall and then make a dual boot of full ubuntu huh
[01:34] <chuck_> Gourlis, ati dropped support for a lot of drivers you might have to use the open source driver
[01:34] <justfil> How can I hide the File, edit, view... menu in opera?
[01:34] <fryguy> Gourlis: it's a configuration file for x11, edit it to use the ati or radeon driver and see if that works
[01:34] <Gourlis> chuck_, i know but i don't know how to use the open source drivers.
[01:34] <fryguy> chuck_: which is the 'ati' driver, which is what i've been telling him to use
[01:34] <Gourlis> fryguy, ok i'll let u know.
[01:35] <fryguy> Gourlis: try the first couple of links from this: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+use+open+source+ati+driver&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[01:35] <deeb0> Ok well thanks for the help everyone, I guess I gotta reinstall Ubuntu
[01:35] <deeb0> Take it easy all.
[01:36] <Kalmi> deeb0, yep
[01:36] <Gourlis> fryguy, alright but how to go to "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" ? I mean what to type infront of it in terminal..
[01:36] <fryguy> Gourlis: it's a plain text file, edit it with whatever text editor you prefer
[01:36] <Gourlis> fryguy, ok i just dont know how to get there :P am newbie
[01:37] <publius> gourlis, i have an old ati card on my laptop, and i had to roll back my ati driver to make it work with 8.10
[01:37] <fryguy> Gourlis: it's a filesystem location, just like any other file on your system
[01:37] <p1oooop> Gourlis: you can try gksudo nautilus
[01:37] <fryguy> Gourlis: use cd to navigate through directories in terminal, or use nautilus to get to it
[01:38] <nightdrever> can someone help me install babaschess through wine
[01:38] <fryguy> nightdrever: #winehq
[01:38] <nonewmsgs> .
[01:38] <Gourlis> alright mates, i will see what i can do.
[01:38] <Gourlis> thanks all
[01:38] <nightdrever> ive tried says its installed but wont run
[01:38] <nonewmsgs> ....................
[01:38] <Gourlis> because my screen keeps flicking
[01:38] <Pici> nonewmsgs: please stop
[01:38] <byte^> Pardon my lapse in memory but how am I able to access an ext4 file system?
[01:38] <nonewmsgs> .
[01:39] <p1oooop> Gourlis: you may wanna uninstall :D
[01:39] <brb> dehilight ubuntu
[01:39] <fryguy> byte^: if extents haven't been enabled yet, just mount it as ext3
[01:39] <byte^> Ubuntu automatically found and tried to mount my ext4 partition, but it seems to have failed.
[01:39] <publius> gourlis: check this out -> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page
[01:39] <syntax\> ne one in here play zynga's texas hold em poker on ubuntu?
[01:39] <Gourlis> ploooop, no chance.
[01:39] <byte^> fryguy: extents?
[01:39] <p1oooop> syntax\: I do, whatcha need
[01:39] <nonewmsgs> sorry everyone i dropped my keyboard
[01:39] <Gourlis> ploooop, 9.04 is the best :D~
[01:39] <p1oooop> nonewmsgs: happens
[01:39] <fryguy> byte^: new addition to the filetable structure for ext (pretty much the whole point for ext3->ext4)
[01:40] <byte^> Ah, I see.
[01:40] <syntax\> ploooop: can't view rooms, can't see friends
[01:40] <aaditya> !ot | syntax\
[01:40] <p1oooop> syntax\: tried reinstalling flash?
[01:40] <Bob_Dole> Ohhh, there is a SPARC ISO for 8.04! YUSH.
[01:40] <syntax\> not yet
[01:40] <p1oooop> Bob_Dole: nice
[01:41] <syntax\> p1oooop: how can i do that sir?
[01:41] <byte^> What is the preferred package to access an NTFS? partition? Is that ntfs-3g?
[01:41] <fryguy> byte^: yes
[01:41] <aaditya> "texas hold em poker" is a flash issue?
[01:41] <aaditya> !info ntfs-3g
[01:41] <p1oooop> syntax\: sir?
[01:41] <byte^> Okay, thank you. You've been invaluable, by the way.
[01:41] <p1oooop> syntax\: I think we better move to #flash
[01:41] <syntax\> p1oooop: ang expression :)
[01:42] <aaditya> p1oooop: come on, he's just being nice to you
[01:42] <Bob_Dole> There is some bug in adobe flash that is present on linux and not elsewhere dealing with the network
[01:42] <aaditya> i've heard of the problem with that flash game in this channel before
[01:43] <p1oooop> aaditya: I know :D I meant that in a LOL way... no offnes
[01:43] <aaditya> p1oooop: haha ok
[01:43] <p1oooop> syntax\: you can reinstalll in terminal
[01:44] <syntax\> im looking at it p1oooop
[01:45] <p1oooop> syntax\: great :D, tell me how it goes :)
[01:45] <byte^> Another question: Is resizing one file system safer than another type? For example, GParted--I would think--would know how to resize ext3 better than NTFS (because it's proprietary)... Would this mean less chance of errors? I know the general "back everything up" train of thought, I'm just wondering though.
[01:45] <Bob_Dole> Next order of business: Get an ARM or PPC based system.
[01:45] <Gourlis> i like when on working on ubuntu ;D my fan works with cool air ;p
[01:45] <p1oooop> Gourlis: LOL :D
[01:45] <fryguy> byte^: they are going to be equal
[01:46] <byte^> Okay.
[01:46] <p1oooop> Gourlis: probably because of the better-than-windows termina
[01:46] <p1oooop> l
[01:47] <Gourlis> ploooop, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Catalyst_9.4 (am a newbie my card is x1200 series) can i get one of these installed on my pc ? :P
[01:47] <p1oooop> FloodBot2: HI
[01:47] <Bob_Dole> I have no idea what this system would run like with windows on it, never been installed, never will be installed while I own it.
[01:48] <p1oooop> Gourlis: not too sure, I dont have all the cards for use and compare. I wish I did :D
[01:48] <Gourlis> ploooop, am stuck :P
[01:49] <Gourlis> brb
[01:49] <p1oooop> Gourlis: yea, happens to all of us :D
[01:49] <Bob_Dole> I got one of those in my iMac
[01:49] <Bob_Dole> the X1600 or 1650, not sure which right now
[01:50] <p1oooop> Bob_Dole: yea, thats the most upsetting thing, it works with mac but not ubuntu
[01:51] <Bob_Dole> It doesn't? I was considering transitioning that system over to ubuntu :(
[01:51] <mr_step> can anyone tell me, when you share a folder using the gui, where it saves the settings?  it's a samba share, but the settings aren't saved in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:51] <p1oooop> mr_step: probably .samba in your home folder
[01:51] <Jamed> Bob_Dole: The proprietary driver for the X1600 does not work in 9.04
[01:52] <Bob_Dole> Jamed, Ah, works in 8.04 though I hope?
[01:52] <permanewb> ...can I maybe kill the installer while it's prompting to replace a config file, and then run the installer again displaying on the x server on my other computer to finish? Or, am I in an unrecoverable situation with no keyboard responding?
[01:52] <Jamed> Bob_Dole: yes
[01:52] <p1oooop> Jamed: nothing works in the newer :(
[01:52] <mr_step> p1oooop: there isn't a .samba folder.  i've tried grepping my home directory for the text of the share and everything.  it feels like i'ts a system wide setting, just not in the smb.conf file
[01:52] <p1oooop> mr_step: huh, then IDK...
[01:53] <Bob_Dole> Jamed, alright. 8.04 is fine by me. First ubuntu release I was happy with, and what prompted me to stick with 1 distro and not use Windows or OS X anymore.
[01:53] <mr_step> p1oooop: thanks though.  i've been asking in this chatroom for days now... nobody seems to know :(
[01:53] <fryguy> mr_step: why not just create the share the normal way
[01:53] <fryguy> using smb.conf
[01:53] <fryguy> instead of trying to figure out a non-standard way of doing it
[01:54] <Jamed> Bob_Dole: In 8.10 it works too
[01:54] <p1oooop> mr_step: yea... wanna get the samba developers :D
[01:54] <Bob_Dole> Jamed, how much longer is 8.10 supported?
[01:54] <josefig> Hello, i've got a problem, i have ubuntu and windows vista installed in my laptop, i can use my wi-fi connection without any problem when i'm on windows vista but when i try to do it on ubuntu it tries to connect but nothing happened, the hardware is working properly but i don't know what's wrong, could u help me?
[01:54] <Jamed> Bob_Dole: dont know
[01:55] <mr_step> fryguy:  i have done.  i just like to know how stuff works :S
[01:55] <mr_step> p1ooop: yeah, i probably should ask them or the gnome people.
[01:55] <Bob_Dole> Jamed, I know 8.04 is supposed to be supported 3 years, and I think 8.10 for 18 months.
[01:55] <syntax\> p1oooop: its still the same. :|
[01:56] <Bob_Dole> Oh..right, I gotta find me a spare monitor before it gets to be pitch black out.
[01:56] <Jamed> Bob_Dole: wikipedia says 8.10 is supported until april 2010
[01:56] <p1oooop> syntax\: huh, lemme chack if it works in 9.04 cause it just came out a month ago
[01:57] <binskipy2u> any good reason , anyone in here did NOT switch to 9.04 and is running 8.10?
[01:57] <yasasvy> josefig: are you using network manager to connect to your wi-fi networks?
[01:57] <Gourlis> fryguy, my xorg.conf is empty. Like, nothing detected.
[01:57] <fryguy> josefig: try using iwconfig manually, or switch to wicd
[01:58] <fryguy> Gourlis: yah, you'll need to make one from scratch
[01:58] <Bob_Dole> binskipy2u, I switched, but I'm running a mixed environment here.. 8.04, 8.10, and 9.04..soon to add another 8.04. Reasons for staying on 8.10 are graphics card support, lots of things got dropped in 9.04.
[01:58] <Gourlis> fryguy, sorry if am asking too much :P but i don't know what to write there.
[01:58] <MattCampbell> What is the most popular BitTorrent tracker program available on Ubuntu?
[01:58] <binskipy2u> just wondering
[01:59] <fryguy> Gourlis: man xorg.conf
[01:59] <MattCampbell> Transmission doesn't have a builtin tracker does it?
[01:59] <binskipy2u> transmission
[01:59] <fryguy> Gourlis: it's well documented
[01:59] <Gourlis> fryguy, alright thanks.
[01:59] <fryguy> binskipy2u: i just stopped using ubuntu altogether
[01:59] <fryguy> MattCampbell: ?
[01:59] <binskipy2u> is it just me or does 9.04 just not "FEEL" as comfy, as 8.10?
[01:59] <binskipy2u> whatcha use fryguy?
[01:59] <p1oooop> syntax\: extremely slow here :D
[01:59] <fryguy> MattCampbell: no, transmission is a bittorrent client, like utorrent or azureus
[01:59] <mdg> hello
[02:00] <fryguy> binskipy2u: freebsd, and a handcompiled linux setup one one machine, and archlinux everywhere else
[02:00] <syntax\> p1oooop: can't see rooms nor friends nor servers
[02:00] <mdg> I have a fluxbox problem - some of the menu items won't reload
[02:00] <MattCampbell> So what do I use if I want to run a tracker?
[02:00] <fryguy> mdg: #fluxbox
[02:00] <MattCampbell> bittorrent (version 3)?
[02:00] <fryguy> MattCampbell: look at the bittorrent package
[02:01] <binskipy2u> i tried 3 different arch install documentations, easy, beginners and a custom one made
[02:01] <binskipy2u> i think i'm too stupid for arch
[02:01] <binskipy2u> cant get passed Xorg
[02:01] <binskipy2u> and my computer's 9 months old
[02:01] <fryguy> binskipy2u: heh, love how you skip over the other 2 setups I run
[02:01] <syntax\> p1oooop: im on flash player 10
[02:02] <p1oooop> syntax\: yea, I see your problem
[02:02] <p1oooop> syntax\: for some reason it doesnt run on ubunut :P
[02:02] <p1oooop> *work
[02:02] <syntax\> no sh1t -_-
[02:02] <Kingsy101> hey guys I have just installed a program on ubuntu and I added the shortcut to the menu bar, but for some reason its nto showing up right, the icon is showing as  a dark box , if you go to properties tho the correct icon is there... any ideas?
[02:02] <p1oooop> !work | p1oooop
[02:02] <binskipy2u> freebsd is nice
[02:02] <Bob_Dole> I spent a total of 30 minutes with BSD...can't even remember which one. I was lost, I was also 15.
[02:03] <Kingsy101> hmmm actually the icon isnt there anymore.. I re-started and now its gone... any ideas how you set an icon properly?
[02:03] <p1oooop> syntax\: if you really want to, you can get wine
[02:03] <Jamed> Kingsy101: i had that problem too, after restarting the icon was shown
[02:03] <orochi_> Anyone else find the glibc/eglibc split somewhat disconcerting? ;> Which will future versions of Ubuntu use?
[02:03] <p1oooop> syntax\: but I have to warn you, it's kinda slow
[02:03] <p1oooop> syntax\: kinda as slow as windows is :D
[02:03] <Kingsy101> hmmm re-starting for me does the oppisit
[02:03] <Kingsy101> e
[02:03] <Bob_Dole> Yeah, because of that bug in flash I run FireFox and Flash under WINE to play that game
[02:04] <fryguy> orochi_: i don't really find it disconcerting
[02:04] <zenxr> Bob_Dole: why let age be a judgement on intelligence?
[02:04] <p1oooop> Bob_Dole: yea, kinda sad right?
[02:04] <orochi_> fryguy: Well, from a developer's standpoint I suppose it could be a problem, having to support two different versions of the core c libraries :>
[02:04] <Jamed> Kingsy101: then what about changing the icon and then set it back to the original?
[02:04] <Bob_Dole> p1oooop, yeah
[02:04] <syntax\> what do you mean after restarting p1oooop ?
[02:04] <B0b> i need help i just installed ubuntu the first time and i keep getting "grub loading error 18 " and it just gets stuck there
[02:05] <byte^> The ~ when prefixed to a file path points to the user dir, right?
[02:05] <p1oooop> syntax\: huh, i didnt say anything about restarting?
[02:05] <Kingsy101> Jamed - do you have to re-start every time you change the icon?
[02:05] <fryguy> orochi_: ?
[02:05] <p1oooop> syntax\: sudo apt-get install wine
[02:05] <Jamed> Kingsy101: no
[02:05] <Kingsy101> alright thanks
[02:05] <syntax\> p1oooop: lol i saw it already sorry :D
[02:05] <fryguy> byte^: yes
[02:05] <Kingsy101> I will try that now
[02:05] <byte^> huh....
[02:05] <fryguy> orochi_: the distros don't maintain the c libs
[02:05] <p1oooop> syntax\: O wait, LOL you need to add the repositories and all that stuff
[02:05] <fryguy> orochi_: ulrich drepper is paid by redhat to lead support for glibc
[02:05] <p1oooop> :D
[02:06] <byte^> So ~.conkyrc is at the /home/user/ dir, then.
[02:06] <jrkilde> can anyone help me mount my external hard drive. Since upgrade to 9.04, I cannot mount external hd
[02:06] <orochi_> fryguy: Hmm, I see
[02:06] <byte^> My problem is, I mounted another partition of linux and when I browse to the /home/user/ dir, nothing seems to be there...
[02:06] <p1oooop> jrkilde: you try the FORCE method?
[02:06] <fryguy> byte^: where did you mount it
[02:06] <byte^> /mnt/dir/
[02:07] <jamiejackson> Floppy/PCMCIA NIC Installation?: i've got a laptop that is custom suited to being very difficult to install linux on: no cdrom, no onboard nic, bios doesn't allow boot from usb. it does have windows installed, a floppy, and a PCMCIA nic. this is a tough combo. does anyone know of an installation method that involves pcmcia nic and/or floppy?
[02:07] <histo> byte^: files with a leading . are hidden files.
[02:07] <fryguy> byte^: and what is the problem?
[02:07] <byte^> /mnt/alpha specifically
[02:07] <jrkilde> plooooop: I do not know how to force
[02:07] <histo> byte^: ls -la /mnt/alpha
[02:07] <byte^> histo: I know, I have enabled th eviewing of hidden files
[02:07] <fryguy> byte^: and there is nothing in /mnt/alpha/home/user?
[02:07] <Kingsy101> Jamed - does the icon manager in ubuntu recognise .xpm files? cos thats the file format of the icon I am trying to assign
[02:07] <byte^> fryguy: There are some weird folders that disappear after a second
[02:07] <byte^> .Private
[02:07] <B0b>  i need help i just installed ubuntu the first time and i keep getting "grub loading error 18 " and it just gets stuck there
[02:07] <byte^> and something else
[02:08] <p1oooop> byte^: thats just the programs working
[02:08] <p1oooop> byte^: dont worry aobut those
[02:08] <byte^> What?
[02:08] <Bob_Dole> LimePC with its 8GB of FLASH storage and 3 core PPC based "motherboard on chip"(PPC core, GPU core, sound core) for ~300 USD..or Beagleboard with its 600mhz ARM core, GPU core, and DSP for ~200USD?
[02:08] <byte^> Well I should have a .conkyrc file there, right?
[02:08] <Jamed> Kingsy101: i think it can handle pbg and jpeg only, but maybe im wrong
[02:08] <Jamed> png*
[02:08] <fryguy> B0b: have you looked at any of the wiki or forum or many google entries on the topic yet?
[02:08] <byte^> in the ~ dir
[02:08] <histo> byte^: if you had one before. If you just ran it with the default config no you won.t
[02:08] <B0b> yes but didnt help me
[02:08] <byte^> histo: I've had one on that partition.
[02:08] <TannerS> guys can you have 2 partitions of two linux dist?
[02:08] <fryguy> TannerS: yes
[02:09] <Kingsy101> hhmmmm I don't know how I would go about converting.. anyone got an idea?
[02:09] <thiebaude> B0b, are you dual booting
[02:09] <histo> byte^: then it should be in that home folder.
[02:09] <Bob_Dole> ARM is officially supported, PPC isn't..so..hmm.
[02:09] <byte^> I have two partitions of this, one is clean and the other is used...
[02:09] <byte^> I want to transplant the used files (the ones I've customized) to the clean one
[02:09] <Jamed> Kingsy101: open the file with gimp and then save it in adifferent fromat
[02:09] <TannerS> fryguy, you sure? i tryed makign 2 partitions of ubuntu and all it did was complelty jack up my older one losting all ym files
[02:09] <B0b> no i formated my drive and installed ubuntu
[02:09] <byte^> there is nothing there...
[02:09] <histo>  byte^ transfer your old home.
[02:09] <histo> byte^: then you didn't mount it properly
[02:09] <fryguy> byte^: cp -a /mnt/alpha/home/user/* /home/user
[02:09] <byte^> Well.
[02:10] <fryguy> TannerS: yes i'm sure
[02:10] <byte^> I'm not quite sure if I want to do that.... I might bork something
[02:10] <byte^> On the old install, sound didn't work and I had a few other problems
[02:10] <fryguy> TannerS: you can install as many operating systems on your machine as your bootloader is capable of finding
[02:10] <B0b> in the forum it says i have to change hdd to normal but i dindt find in my bios
[02:10] <TannerS> fryguy, then how when i did it the new ubuntu was fine but old one wont even load? makes me scared to try it again
[02:10] <byte^> byte@crunchbang:/mnt/alpha/home/byte$ ls
[02:10] <byte^> Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop  README.txt
[02:10] <B0b> im using amibios 2001
[02:11] <byte^> Only two files, it would seem, in that user's folder.
[02:11] <fryguy> TannerS: just add an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst for the other install
[02:11] <histo> byte^: ls -la
[02:11] <byte^> Oh.
[02:11] <jzhou> is openoffice.org-gtk part of go-oo or ooo?
[02:11] <byte^> Oh.
[02:11] <byte^> Oh.
[02:11] <FloodBot2> byte^: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:11] <TannerS> fryguy before or after installing a new one?
[02:11] <fryguy> TannerS: after
[02:11] <byte^> Okay, sorry for the flood.
[02:11] <jzhou> or is it just third party plugin?
[02:12] <byte^> Linux must've encrypted my files.
[02:12] <p1oooop> FloodBot2: you're funny
[02:12] <byte^> :|
[02:12] <TannerS> fryguy thansk ill try that
[02:12] <byte^> Can't believe I didn't see that.
[02:12] <p1oooop> lol
[02:12] <fryguy> byte^: ?
[02:12] <hogan> hello
[02:12] <p1oooop> imma mess around with the bot :D
[02:12] <sven__> Running stable version of Ubuntu 9.10. trying to install grafix drivers for ATI Raedon 9600. the manual suggests xorg-driver-fglrx, but it isn't working properly still
[02:12] <gartral> how do i kick off a ssh connection without logging my local login off?
[02:12] <p1oooop> ubottu: hi
[02:12] <fryguy> !work | sven__
[02:13] <byte^> fryguy: Well, technically speaking, I installed Ubuntu 9.04 then used a Crunchbang script to install that variation. I believe--if I recall correctly--that I set my user's folder to encrypt itself.
[02:13] <thiebaude> B0b, i found this i hope it helps, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/grub-loading-please-wait......error-18-343280/
[02:13] <byte^> Which would make sense, because I have a .Private folder of encrypted hashes.
[02:13] <p1oooop> !wine | p1oooop
[02:13] <byte^> So... Yeah.
[02:13] <ayo> what file compare tools are there on ubuntu?
[02:13] <byte^> Just need to figure out how to unencrypt it from here.
[02:13] <fryguy> ayo: diff should cover all of your text needs, as for binary diffs, that's usally filespec specific
[02:13] <fryguy> byte^: it's probably encfs
[02:14] <byte^> yep
[02:14] <LoveBandi> how can I load windows back on the hard disk after having ubuntu on ? Windows doesn't seem to want to recognize the disk
[02:14] <p1oooop> !help | p1oooop
[02:14] <byte^> ecryptfs-mount-private
[02:14] <Iceman_B> gartral: try the logout command?
[02:14] <fryguy> LoveBandi: ubuntu doesn't do anything to change how windows installer will detect the drive
[02:14] <ayo> fryguy: graphic file compare tool?
[02:14] <p1oooop> ubottu: thanks
[02:14] <gartral> Iceman_B: will it log out my gdm session too?
[02:14] <fryguy> ayo: for what files, and what do you want to compare
[02:15] <ayo> simple c source file
[02:15] <p1oooop> ubottu: sure you are
[02:15] <fryguy> gartral: there is no such thing as a "gdm session"
[02:15] <fryguy> ayo: diff, meld, vimdiff
[02:15] <byte^> How do I run something from a directory, in CLI?
[02:15] <fryguy> byte^: ./commandname
[02:15] <gartral> i hyave a local gui, and a remote ssh connection... how do i close the remote connection from the local side (my box)
[02:15] <Iceman_B> gartral: I dont know what gdm is, but if you started that on the remote machine, then probably yes
[02:15] <byte^> uh...
[02:16] <fryguy> byte^: make sure it has execute permission (chmod +x)
[02:16] <byte^> Oh, okay.
[02:16] <p1oooop> ubottu: ubuntu
[02:16] <ayo> fryguy: how to install vimdiff?
[02:16] <Kingsy101> jamed - thanks.. converting it to a .ico file worked fine :)
[02:16] <byte^> Eh... chmod: cannot operate on dangling symlink `Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop'
[02:16] <histo> Ugh... Need a little help I have winbind running on my lan all machines can ping the server by hostname but not each other
[02:16] <fryguy> ayo: it's probably installed by default, or apt-cache search vim and pick the one you want and then install that
[02:16] <Jamed> Kingsy101: np
[02:16] <histo> I've edited all their nsswitch files so they hit wins before dns etc...
[02:16] <p1oooop> ubottu: swap
[02:17] <Kingsy101> Jamed - can you run .exe files through wine?
[02:17] <eseven73> !msgthebot > p1oooop
[02:17] <gartral> all i want to do is close the dangling ssh connection i left up at work...
[02:17] <Kingsy101> probably a stupid question I guess
[02:17] <LoveBandi> i have a problem ubuntu will not finish loading
[02:17] <fryguy> Kingsy101: use wine
[02:18] <Jamed> Kingsy101: wine is made for running .exe files
[02:18] <Bob_Dole> A pentium3 @ 600mhz with 256MB of RAM and no swap trying to do updates..that's a load of fun.
[02:18] <alex_> lol
[02:18] <JackGray> gartral: as in.. you sshd outwards from work and want to close that connection from home?
[02:18] <Kingsy101> cool thanks
[02:18] <Jamed> Kingsy101: but not every windows program works fine with wine
[02:18] <Kingsy101> yea np
[02:18] <Kingsy101> its cool
[02:18] <LoveBandi> i have ubuntu disk cant lod
[02:19] <Gourlis> ploooop, fryguy, thank you guys! ati open source it's a bit slower but works perfect for me.
[02:19] <alex_> I just downloaded jaunty... and when I go to System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers it isn't finding my wireless card or my graphics card that came up there in 8.10... I can't use wireless because of this... any ideas/
[02:19] <gartral> JackGray: sshd is the server, which is runing on the box im in front of, and i have a connection from my work terminal, which i want to close without going 22 miles back to work
[02:20] <fryguy> alex_: are you sure the wireless driver isn't already loaded
[02:20] <alex_> fryguy: I can't get onto any wireless networks, so I assume it isn't.
[02:20] <fryguy> gartral: use w, find the shell that's running, and kill that ssh session using the kill command
[02:20] <fryguy> alex_: is it listed in ifconfig and/or iwconfig?
[02:20] <LoveBandi> how do i load ubuntu
[02:20] <RHorse> alex_ iwconfig results?
[02:21] <crazyhick> alex_   I had the same problem but I ran some update and rebooted ... then it came up in there
[02:21] <fryguy> LoveBandi: www.ubuntu.com, download iso, burn iso to disc, boot from it, and it walks you through it
[02:21] <p1oooop> Gourlis: NP
[02:21] <gartral> fryguy: w shows no PIDs
[02:21] <aaditya> LoveBandi: is it a LiveCD?
[02:21] <alex_> fryguy and RHorse: It shows IEEE 802.11bg ESSID under wlan0
[02:21] <JackGray> gartral: well.. either restart the computer in front of you... or ssh into your work cpu and kill the ssh process
[02:21] <fryguy> alex_: wlan0 = the driver is loaded
[02:22] <alex_> fryguy and RHorse: But I can't access any networks still?
[02:22] <JackGray> gartral: or restart the ssh service on the computer in front of you... lots of options..
[02:22] <fryguy> alex_: try using iwconfig instead of networkmanager, or wicd
[02:22] <gartral> JackGray: its work... that system is windows vista..
[02:22] <LoveBandi> i get to  persent  to download ubuntu then it stops
[02:22] <RHorse> alex_ wep?
[02:22] <Gourlis> ploooop, in a website it says "if you see SGI then your drivers work fine" :P
[02:22] <Gourlis> I CAN SEE IT
[02:22] <_dennister> Dr_Willis: do you have a few minutes to help me pls? i believe you recommended apt-proxy to me a while back, now I really need it, but I'm having real trouble with the backends...:(
[02:22] <JackGray> gartral: so kill the ssh server on the cpu in front of you and restart it
[02:23] <alex_> RHorse: Not familiar with "wep" I assume wireless something point?
[02:23] <gartral> alex_: Wired Equivilent Protection
[02:23] <RHorse> alex_ which encrypt are U on WEP or Wpa or is it open router?
[02:24] <alex_> RHorse: Ah, no security on it.
[02:24] <p1oooop> i have to use wep :'(
[02:24] <RHorse> ok
[02:24] <p1oooop> lol
[02:24] <RHorse> type sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid 'ur-essid' mode managed
[02:27] <alex_> RHorse: I don't think that worked... but I'm about to disconnect the LAN and see. brb
[02:27] <RHorse> alex_ now type  sudo dhclient wlan0
[02:27] <alex_> RHorse: Oh =P That wasn't all? =D
[02:28] <RHorse> :)
[02:28] <p1oooop> ???
[02:28] <p1oooop> thwa?
[02:28] <alex_> It just keeps saying "Network is down"
[02:28]  * RHorse sighs deeply
[02:28] <p1oooop> nice. verizon
[02:29] <p1oooop> wei has private ip... wow!
[02:29] <reqon> I tried....i really tried this time...but im doing the unthinkable and installing windows 7 64bit....boohoo....bye bye......i need an extremely blunt jandal to take the lords 50 butt cheek lashing from my wife
[02:29] <Cannabis_Time> i hate verizon
[02:29] <p1oooop> Cannabis_Time: oh... lol
[02:29] <fryguy> reqon: enjoy your new os
[02:29] <mgmuscari> hey, i have a question about VNC in jaunty... specifically Vino which i think is the default "remote desktop" server and client
[02:29] <digitalslave> anyone know a good program to use to download pictures from flickr with a certain tag?
[02:30] <reqon> well it is in Virtualbox OSE...does that still count?
[02:30] <alex_> reqon: I have windows 7 as one of my 3 operating systems... and IMO it seems to have the best of XP and the best of Vista all in one
[02:30] <TannerS> !kubuntu
[02:30] <RHorse> alex_ try turning off the computer and leaving it sit for 5 minutes, then reboot. HW may need cold start
[02:30] <dhendrix> Hello everyone. I have a dumb question about make-kpkg. The name of the .deb that make-kpkg spits out seems to repeat kernel version info, e.g. linux-image-2.6.30-rc7_2.6.30-rc7-10.00Custom_amd64.deb. Is there a way to tell make-kpkg not to repeat the kernel version?
[02:30] <mgmuscari> i've set up my desktop to accept VNC connections over my LAN with a password, but when i try to connect from my laptop i just see a black box
[02:30] <zenwryly> Anyone know how I can get the Python 2.6 info pages installed.  I have python 2.4 and 2.5 but not 2.6 and I have the python2.6-doc package installed.
[02:30] <TannerS> wat otehr ubuntu dist do they have
[02:30] <darthanubis> !synaptic
[02:30] <fryguy> TannerS: www.distrowatch.com is a reasonable resource
[02:31] <TannerS> ah let me check it out
[02:31] <craigbass1976> Do I have any hope of getting a wacom graphire tablet working as well in ubuntu as in windows?
[02:31] <alex_> RHorse: I'll try it... but wireless works just fine in Windows so I don't see where that would be the prob
[02:31] <fryguy> craigbass1976: wacom tablets work well in linux
[02:32] <RHorse> alex_ you nver know
[02:32] <p1oooop> ?
[02:32] <alex_> RHorse: That's why I'll try it =P Right after I get these other things I was doing saved =P
[02:32] <craigbass1976> fryguy, the box on the tablet is not operating on the same parameters as the screen it seems.  Was I suposed to restart x after install wacom-tools?
[02:33] <fryguy> craigbass1976: no idea, try it and see
[02:33] <craigbass1976> fryguy, toodles
[02:33] <p1oooop> craigbass1976: hmm?
[02:33] <mgmuscari> i figured it out... firewall misconfigured
[02:33] <Cannabis_Time> I can't install linux on my new quadcore box, this sucks... powernow-K8:BIOS error - no PSB or ACPI_PSS objects
[02:33] <joel> hi all
[02:34] <Cannabis_Time> i google forums etc... no luck with linux
[02:34] <craigbass1976> p1oooop, there's a square (rectangle) on the tablet that's the same size (proportionally) as the screen.  In windows, the edge of this rectangle corresponded to the edges of the display
[02:34] <craigbass1976> brb
[02:34] <Detrix> I have a gateway laptop  with a realtek wifi network adaptor.  it is working but I have to be very close to the wireless router.
[02:35] <fryguy> Cannabis_Time: update your bios
[02:35] <jwfoxjr> what can I use to find out keyboard scan codes under X? I want to try and map some of the multimedia keys to different apps
[02:35] <fryguy> jwfoxjr: xev
[02:35] <Detrix> when I move further away, the icon says I still have signal but can not communicate.
[02:35] <Cannabis_Time> thanks fryguy, i will try that.
[02:36] <jwfoxjr> fryguy: thanks - I couldn't remember - once I get the scan codes, where to I map them?
[02:36] <fryguy> jwfoxjr: xmodmap probably
[02:36] <RHorse> Detrix try making a antenna for the router. google it
[02:37] <p1oooop> ...?
[02:38] <cedriczg> hi everyone
[02:38] <aaditya> !wifi | Detrix
[02:38] <p1oooop> hi
[02:38] <aaditya> cedriczg: hi
[02:39] <cedriczg> aaditya: hi there
[02:39] <aaditya> what's up?
[02:39] <cedriczg> aaditya: I am just using my recently arrived Ubuntu 9.04
[02:39] <cedriczg> aaditya: :D
[02:39] <Cannabis_Time> what is best GNU IRC client?
[02:39] <reqon> how long time 9.10 comes out??
[02:40] <Jamed> Cannabis_Time: xchat
[02:40] <fryguy> !best | Cannabis_Time
[02:40] <eseven73> !9.10
[02:40] <ayo> what has the kernel api SET_MODULE_OWNER changed from 2.6.20 to 2.6.27?
[02:40] <fryguy> Cannabis_Time: irssi is a standard cli recommendation
[02:40] <Jamed> Cannabis_Time: ormirssi
[02:40] <Cannabis_Time> thanks all
[02:40] <lstarnes> Cannabis_Time: GNU does not make any irc clients that I know of.  irssi, xchat, conspire, and many others are free/open-source
[02:40] <Jamed> *ormirssi
[02:40] <Jamed> *or irssi
[02:40] <reqon> sweet just after snowboarding season finishes
[02:40] <Cannabis_Time> yep
[02:41] <Jamed> seems like i can´t type anymore :D
[02:41] <OzZiE--> Hello
[02:41] <lightenup> Sup peeps!
[02:42] <lightenup> Any one else out there using a ATI HD3200 and able to fix the video "tearing" issue?
[02:42] <cedriczg> Can anyone please tell me where can I find de details for the network connection the Network Manger sets up (on Ubuntu 9.04)? As I need that info to set up same connection on an ubuntu 8.04
[02:42] <aaditya> !network | cedriczg
[02:42] <fryguy> cedriczg: ifconfig
[02:42] <reqon> lightenup, i have 4870x2 and it dosent work in 3d mode
[02:42] <OzZiE--> im having a problem using wubi in vista and am getting errno 22 invalid argument
[02:42] <OzZiE--> anyone can help?
 /etc/network/interface
[02:43] <cedriczg> thank you all
[02:43] <cedriczg> I' ll try those
[02:43] <aaditya> OzZiE--: does it work well when you boot directly from the LiveCD?
[02:43] <lstarnes> cedriczg: I think it's /etc/network/interfaces
[02:43] <OzZiE--> yes
[02:43] <sjokkis> hi. i've configured the gnome volume applet to adjust my pulseaudio master volume. when i move the slider it also adjusts the pcm volume. does anyone know what to do about this?
[02:43] <nw13> can anyone get this message?
[02:43] <lstarnes> nw13: maybe
[02:44] <nw13> Can someone please help me into further details on how to use IRC
[02:44] <lstarnes> nw13: like what details?
[02:44] <OzZiE--> i have booted from the livecd on 2 different systems just fine, this is the first time im using wubi
[02:44] <nw13> everytime i go into a "channel" there are people but nothing is said
[02:44] <sjokkis> nw13: what client are you using?
[02:44] <lstarnes> nw13: that's normal
[02:44] <cedriczg> lstarnes: in that file I don 't see any of the info I set up on the network-manager
[02:44] <fryguy> nw13: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
[02:45] <sjokkis> nw13: people idle. maybe you're not cool enough to make them talk
[02:45] <nw13> lol
[02:45] <sjokkis> i'm serious
[02:45] <nw13> alright i thot i was doing somethingh wrong
[02:45] <lstarnes> nw13: some people keep their clients connected all the time
[02:45] <sjokkis> i'm super cereal
[02:45] <nw13> what does it mean when someone has a @ infront of their names?
[02:46] <fryguy> nw13: they are channel operators
[02:46] <nw13> i see
[02:46] <fryguy> nw13: just read the link I sent you
[02:46] <nw13> i have
[02:46] <TannerS> any way to get a ubutnu related os to run off a zip drive
[02:46] <sjokkis> nw13: depending on the channel, it can mean pretty must nothing, or it can mean that they sit around in their basements all the time until they've eventually been given power over other people, which they yield as if it somehow makes them important
[02:46] <nw13> i read the link and 100 other lihnks on irc
[02:46] <sjokkis> it depends really
[02:46] <OzZiE--> is wubi new to 9.04 or prior?
[02:47] <yogeshg1987> i guess so OzZie
[02:47] <OzZiE--> its interesting
[02:47] <sjokkis> nw13: #wikipedia is an excellent example of the latter
[02:47] <OzZiE--> Z:\home\evan\bzr\wubi.trunk\build\wubi\files\lib\wubi\backends\common\tasklist.py
[02:47] <rww> OzZiE--: It's been around since 7.04, and was first officially supported in 8.04.
[02:47] <OzZiE--> thats from the log
[02:48] <OzZiE--> im trying it with vista, maybe it hates vista
[02:49] <cedriczg> lstarnes: I need the details on setting the same broadband connection I am using in this ubuntu 9.04 to set it up on an ubuntu 8.04
[02:49] <OzZiE--> looks like the error is Exception: Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO
[02:49] <lstarnes> cedriczg: do you know that the interface's name is?
[02:49] <cedriczg> lstarnes: I have tried everything on ubuntu 8.04. From wvdial to ppconf and network-manager
[02:50] <lstarnes> cedriczg: does it use DHCP or is it PPPoE?
[02:50] <cedriczg> lstarnes: not really. I just set up a broadband connection on the network-manager
[02:50] <cedriczg> lstarnes: sorry it's a mobile broadband
[02:50] <noglorp> I'm trying to get my NVIDIA card working, beyond the generic driver
[02:50] <lstarnes> cedriczg: try checking system > administration > network
[02:51] <noglorp> the "use proprietary drivers" setup fails hard
[02:51] <electro> how do I format a 7TB partition as XFS.  Its only creating a 2TB filesystem
[02:51] <noglorp> so I'm trying to get the NVIDIA .run version to work
[02:51] <cedriczg> lstarnes: I mean, I know the settings. The thing is I need to know which files were edited after seting the connection. So I can edit same files on ubuntu 8.04
[02:51] <jpcorser> com
[02:52] <lstarnes> cedriczg: you'll probablt have to edit different files
[02:52] <lstarnes> *probably
[02:52] <kelopezcl> woop
[02:52] <lstarnes> cedriczg: I know that 8.04 uses /etc/network/interfaces
[02:52] <cedriczg> lstarnes: mhhh... and how I can at least check for those files ?
[02:52] <histo> nvm figured it out needed samba running on the clients so they could ping by hostname.  Also have to have the changes in nsswitch
[02:52] <white_> hey, how do I do stuff?
[02:52] <lstarnes> cedriczg: look in /etc/network for the interfaces file
[02:53] <lstarnes> white_: like what?
[02:53] <eseven73> !details | white_
[02:53] <cedriczg> lstarnes: there is not much there
[02:53] <white_> I need to make window turn into fire when i close
[02:53] <cedriczg> lstarnes: iface lo inet loopback
[02:53] <cedriczg> lstarnes: and "auto lo"
[02:54] <eseven73> !ccsm | white_
[02:54] <lstarnes> cedriczg: you could also check the outputs of ifconfig and iwconfig
[02:54] <white_> awesome thank you
[02:54] <cedriczg> lstarnes: yes
[02:55] <white_> eseven73: thanks
[02:55] <eseven73> :D
[02:55] <noglorp> I get the following error when X starts: "API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 180.44, but this NVIDIA driver component has version 180.51."
[02:55] <vel0xy> hello all
[02:55] <vel0xy> ;
[02:55] <vel0xy> ;]
[02:55] <white_> eseven73:  perfect
[02:55] <cedriczg> lstarnes: However I don' t know how could I use that info to set up the connection on the older version of ubuntu
[02:55] <Gourlis> Hello again :P Anyone knows how to check if I'm using via Terminal Open Sources drivers for ATI ? please any command..
[02:56] <lstarnes> cedriczg: pastebin it
[02:56] <Gourlis> Just to be sure.
[02:56] <cedriczg> lstarnes: ok
[02:56] <rww> Gourlis: "grep FGLRX /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[02:56] <ScornForSega> Gourlis, you could nano your xorg.conf and see if the driver set to either ati or fglrx
[02:57] <rww> Gourlis: will have output if you're using the proprietary ones. Switch FGLRX with RADEON for the -radeon driver, etc.
[02:57] <Gourlis> ScornForSega & rww, am newbie and i dont know much :P i just edited xorg.conf
[02:58] <permanewb> so, my keyboard stopped being recognized during my upgrade to 9.04. While fiddling to try and get it back, I've managed to kill the installer. If I try to run the installer remotely over ssh with X11 forwarding, it says that is not supported. I'm afraid to try to install telnet via dpkg. Is there a way to run cdromupgrade text only?
[02:58] <lstarnes> cedriczg: alsom try nm-tool
[02:58] <lstarnes> *also,
[02:58] <ScornForSega> oh.  /facepalm  Is this the "I edited a file, but I don't know what I changed?"
[02:58] <cedriczg> lstarnes: I tried that one before
[02:59] <cedriczg> lstarnes: I got DNS names from there
[02:59] <cedriczg> lstarnes: the pastebin is http://pastebin.com/d566dd381
[02:59] <nog_lorp> anyone know the current endless set of inane steps to use ubuntu with an nvidia card?
[03:00] <Gourlis> rww, I just edited xorg.conf and I wanna check if everything works under what I edited.
[03:00] <lstarnes> cedriczg: I'm not sure how to configure that ppp0 interface
[03:00] <Gourlis> rww, that's why am looking forward for a command or something.
[03:00] <rww> Gourlis: then check the log file at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:01] <cedriczg> lstarnes: actually it' s an USB external modem
[03:01] <yogeshg1987> people ! is there a way i can IRC through the terminal
[03:01] <eseven73> irssi
[03:01] <rww> !irssi | yogeshg1987
[03:01] <Gourlis> rww, alright let me search for it.
[03:01] <lstarnes> yogeshg1987: irssi, weechat, telnet, ircii, and eirc are just a few terminal-based irc clients
[03:01] <cedriczg> lstarnes: I am trying to make it work in my old ubuntu before installing ubuntu 9.04
[03:01] <lstarnes> yogeshg1987: I personally use irssi and screen
[03:02] <Gourlis> rww, no log file.
[03:02] <yogeshg1987> thanks a million rww and Istarnes ! I'm looking into it
[03:02] <lstarnes> yogeshg1987: that's an L
[03:03] <yogeshg1987> oops sorry . Let me go again. Thank you Lstarnes
[03:03] <cedriczg> I have to say always a pleasure to find people willing to help others in this channel. Ever since a while I also try to help (when I can ;) )
[03:03] <rww> Gourlis: umm. Unless you did something very weird to your Xorg, it should be logging there. "gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" doesn't come up with anything?
[03:03] <Gourlis> rww, let's see.
[03:04] <Gourlis> rww, it came. let's read now hehe
[03:04] <eseven73> cedriczg, that's what keeps me on Ubuntu, it's not the OS, there's plent of OS's just as good, but they lack the community that Ubuntu has :D
[03:05] <cedriczg> eseven73: You are right I suppose. As Ubuntu is the only Linux I have tried since 2005
[03:06]  * NCDS is away: FUCKshit
[03:06] <yogeshg1987> hmmm. forgot.. also thank u eseven73 !
[03:06] <RHorse> I have been using Ubuntu since '63
[03:06] <LadyNikon> NCDS: i would suggest fixing your away message
[03:06] <eseven73> !away > NCDS
[03:06] <eseven73> and language
[03:06] <cedriczg> lstarnes: well, thanks for your help. I will keep on searching
[03:06] <eseven73> yogeshg1987, np :D
[03:07] <yogeshg1987> eseven73: i'm sorry, wats np??
[03:07] <Seeker`> lastlog NCDS
[03:07] <eseven73> no problem
[03:07] <yogeshg1987> oh. k.
[03:07] <cyan837> Hello, thank you for allowing me temp access to the chat.
[03:08] <cedriczg> bye for now...
[03:11] <unixroot> I recently installed 9.04.  When I go to the Pandora site, the browser locks.  Any clues?
[03:11] <yogesh> hello eseven73 rww lstarnes ! this is yogeshg1987 thro irssc
[03:11] <yogesh> i meant irssi
[03:11] <cyan837> Could anyone help an annoying noob find the right linux driver for my linksys wireless G?  All docs on it are 2005 or earlier   I'm running 9.04
[03:12] <ed_debian> unixroot, your flash player is the problem
[03:12] <unixroot> ed  - I installed the Adobe package and that helped a bit - now it loads for a few seconds then clocks out again.
[03:13] <cyan837> I haven't been on linux for about 2 years now thanks to having my macbook, but I'm trying to set up an old tower to use while my macbook is getting repaired.
[03:13] <unixroot> I am running 9.04 on my Macbook.  VMware is a wonderful thing!
[03:13] <cyan837> I like the mac OS
[03:14] <cyan837> but I wont use windows..
[03:14] <ed_debian> unixroot, I think that you have to purge all of your flash packages except for one (the one you intend to use)
[03:14] <cyan837> but I forgot how much I didn't enjoy having to find drivers for linux  lol.
[03:14] <reqon> OMG problem solved, im just gonna purchase an nvidia card instead
[03:15] <unixroot> ed - that's seems to be the consensus from everything I have found on the forums.  But I don't have any other flash related programs installed. Perhaps an uninstall and a reinstall?
[03:15] <Guest82661> if you are having sound problems, go to your ALSA options and enable all those Volume COntrols like analog front, analog center and turn them all up,  it should fix it.  Did for me :)
[03:15] <eseven73> cyan837, careful you're venturing into dangerous waters saying such mean things about linux ;)
[03:15] <yogesh> anybody know y my extra visual effects is not working?
[03:16] <cyan837> lol eseven.  I know I know..  I was a hugeee linux fan really.  I still am.    I just wish we could keep a complete up to date list of drivers somewhere.
[03:16] <ed_debian> unixroot, I don't really know what the problem is either.  I guess reinstalling is a good a choice as anything else.  I am running firefox 3.0 and the adobe-flash (proprietary) and it works (does not lock) but when I had a poor network connection it used to lock (like below 512KB/s down)
[03:16] <Turtl3> come on you cant expect Linux to have drivers for everything
[03:16] <cyan837> Yeah Alsa works great for sound cards.
[03:16] <Turtl3> thats why its Linux and not PnP Windowa
[03:16] <unixroot> Thanks, Ed.  Will give it a shot (tomorrow!).  Good night to all.
[03:16] <ed_debian> cyan837, A complete up-to-date list of drivers is a totally rediculous task in my opinion
[03:16] <cyan837> Turt, no, but I still DO need to be able to get on the internet..  my computer is no good to me without the internet.  lol
[03:17] <Bob_Dole> You can expect linux to have drivers for everything..you just can't expect every distro to have them.
[03:17] <eseven73> Turtl3, im glad Linux is still "hard to use" makes it more special, will be a sad day when it's as easy as Windows. :D
[03:17] <yogesh> i guess its already easier than windows
[03:17] <cyan837> Bob_Dole  right I agree but ubuntu I was hoping would be able to have my linksys wireless driver, it is the most common wireless router out there for most people.
[03:18] <ed_debian> I think that the only hard part is installing the OS (which in reality is easier to do with linux than it is with windows) The difference is nobody has to install windows
[03:18] <cyan837> meh.  I just want to get on the internet on my computer in less than 2 weeks.  That's not that much to hope for.
[03:18] <yogesh> yea right.. LOL ed_debian
[03:19] <Bob_Dole> Out of 3 purchased wireless cards, and 3 tested that I didn't own.. all were atheros xD
[03:19] <cyan837> ed_debian  I disagree, I can install Gentoo in my sleep.  It's getting the right drivers rounded up that's hard.
[03:19] <Bob_Dole> Not the same brand/model and I only find atheros o.o
[03:20] <ed_debian> I think if you gave someone a blank fresh computer and told them to install an operating system the typical windows user would be equally lost installing linux as they would windows xp or vista
[03:20] <Bob_Dole> ed_debian, I agree.
[03:20] <ed_debian> Don't you mean Bob Dole agrees?
[03:21] <Bob_Dole> Windows is a bit more confusing to install though, assuming "everything just works" on both sides
[03:21] <yogesh> its just that people are more used to Windows and the dogma that linux is for geeks still previals here and there..
[03:21] <cyan837> true, but I honestly am not your average computer user.  I'm just one that wants a driver lol.
[03:22] <ed_debian> Yeah!  And what do windows users do on their computers?  They use itunes, they use ms office, they use firefox, they play games that's pretty much it.  Is any of that hard to do in linux?  I don't think so
[03:22] <Bob_Dole> iTunes has issues under WINE.
[03:22] <Detrix> I have a gateway laptop with a realtek wifi. it works, but when I get more than 20feet from it, the meter/icon says I have signal, but I can not communicate.  why???
[03:22] <yogesh> its easier to do all that in linux. as i said Dogma ! the mind set.
[03:23] <ed_debian> My point is you can listen to music (amarok), type papers (Open office) etc etc
[03:23] <Jamed> the last time i installed winXP i googled half an hour to find a sound driver
[03:23] <ed_debian> cyan837, is right though, we're off topic
[03:23] <eplawless> ed_debian: I use windows as my main development environment, and have yet to see anything beat VS2008 + Visual Assist X for coding in C++
[03:23] <geirha> cyan837: Well, you'll need to provide the make and model if you want help in finding drivers
[03:23] <Jamed> in linux i never had this problem
[03:23] <yogesh> when i say linux , people imagine me working with cli when i show them ubuntu, they re surprised by the gui
[03:23] <Bob_Dole> MS-Office..not a clue, but OpenOffice offers all the features and looks about the same, firefox is on linux. a lot of games are on linux.
[03:24] <Beatlesfan> hi, can someone help me set up connection to a network drive using vpnc?
[03:24] <Bob_Dole> last time I installed XP.. I installed linux and used lspci to find the model of sound card.
[03:24] <ed_debian> lol
[03:24] <ed_debian> Really? Why did you install xp at all?
[03:24] <Bob_Dole> My brother -paid- for it :/
[03:24] <Jamed> finding the model was not the problem
[03:24] <ed_debian> that was silly
[03:24] <Bob_Dole> I agree,
[03:24] <eplawless> I'm having an issue with a Qt application I've put together. It works fine on Debian, but crashes hard when I try to build it under Ubuntu.
[03:25] <geeksquad> Does anybody know where i can find drivers for the XFX 750i sli motherboard?
[03:25] <racecar56> i want to compile wxDFast under CodeBlocks and no matter what i do, it dosen't see my includes of wxWidgets 2.8 (and 2.6, i think wxDFast uses 2.8 though, but i told codeblocks to look in wx-2.8 and wx-2.6 in my /usr/include, could it be confused?)
[03:25] <eplawless> I'm getting a string of QSqlQuery::value: not positioned on a valid record, followed by a malloc(): memory corruption (fast) and a backtrace
[03:25] <eplawless> Could anyone point me in the right direction?
[03:26] <ed_debian> geeksquad, A motherboard doesn't need driver specific things on it do.  (i.e. the sound card) be more specific?
[03:26] <Bob_Dole> There are -15- computers on this plot of land 4 run windows, and 2 of them only run it because they are laptops with busted optical drives, no network boot support, and no USB boot support.
[03:26] <yogeshg1987> bye all
[03:26] <Beatlesfan> anyone, network drive connect via vpnc assist?
[03:26] <geeksquad> i need the drivers for the network card built in to it
[03:26] <agonnerman> Quick question here.
[03:27] <Bob_Dole> then ask it
[03:27] <ed_debian> geeksquad, Did ubuntu recognize it?
[03:27] <geeksquad> nope not even sysinfo detects it
[03:27] <colonelqubit1> How do I get people interested in my bug?
[03:27] <Turtl3> how do I know if my firefox is 32 or 64 bit?
[03:28] <sjokkis> when i adjust the master volume in pulseaudio, it also adjusts the pcm volume in alsamixer, and vice versa. are these supposed to be coupled?
[03:28] <agonnerman> I am working on getting into sysadmin work.  Currently work for a startup, but not as a sysadmin (yet).  Would like to learn a programming language to support work.  Office uses Ruby.  I've been learning a different object-oriented language.  Is Ruby used at all by the Linux crowd for anything other than web dev work?
[03:28] <bc> anyone know off the top of their head how to force fetchmail to use ipv4?
[03:28] <ed_debian> geeksquad, ooo, sorry I don't know what to do,  Try this?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hardware/Detection
[03:28] <colonelqubit1> agonnerman: I use Ruby for all kinds of scripting needs
[03:29] <jorgp-home> in the weather applet is there a way to add your own city?
[03:29] <Bob_Dole> a couple people I converse with regularly are obsessed with LUA and LISP.
[03:29] <agonnerman> colonelqubitl: so nobody's going to sneer at me for using it over some other language?  At least, not for the most part among linux geeks?
[03:29] <ed_debian> jorgp-home, No, it is giving you a list of weather stations that post their data. To add a city you'd have to buy / build a weather station.
[03:30] <eplawless> I'll put forward that developing for Linux involves more stupid unnecessary tasks fighting the operating system than developing for OSX or Windows, and this contributes to an already problematic lack of drivers.
[03:30] <doleyb> agonnerman: well if you can't handle perl or python, they will question you... and you'll have trouble modifying existing scripts.
[03:30] <geeksquad> ed_debian: that page has no useful info for me.
[03:30] <racecar56> i want to compile wxDFast under CodeBlocks and no matter what i do, it dosen't see my includes of wxWidgets 2.8 (and 2.6, i think wxDFast uses 2.8 though, but i told codeblocks to look in wx-2.8 and wx-2.6 in my /usr/include, could it be confused?) (sorry for this big hunk of text)
[03:30] <colonelqubit1> agonnerman: we use capistrano for some sysadmin work
[03:30] <agonnerman> dolyb: I've been working on Python and hate to set it aside.
[03:30] <racecar56> btw #codeblocks is a ghost town
[03:30] <ed_debian> geeksquad, Sorry :(.  Not even the tools to detect hardware if hardware-manager didn't find them?
[03:31] <ed_debian> agonnerman, Python is a dream with syntax isn't it?
[03:31] <ddwolf> python 's syntax is wonderful,I like it
[03:31] <ed_debian> yeah
[03:31] <colonelqubit1> agonnerman: I mean, people have their "favorite" language, and you might find Perl installed on more systems than Ruby, but I think it's a crisp language. Python isn't half bad, either.
[03:32] <geeksquad> nothing detects it and i cant use the driver cd  because when i try to run it with wine it says "setup already running" when it isnt
[03:32] <ed_debian> oo wow
[03:32] <ed_debian> geeksquad, Are you sure it's physically working?
[03:32] <agonnerman> I don't have the time and energy right now to work on more than one language, and I'd like to go with the one that will be best accepted.
[03:32] <Beatlesfan> anyone , can you assist me with vpnc and accessing network drive?
[03:32] <RHorse> :P
[03:33] <jorgp-home> ed_debian: can I borrow some money to build a weather station?
[03:33] <geeksquad> yes i am on the same computer but with a diffrent os that supports it
[03:33] <ed_debian> jorgp-home, No sorry lol.  Is there not one near you?
[03:33] <agonnerman> I know in sysadmin work it isn't anywhere near as critical as it is for programmers, but I'd like to focus well.  I have had a good time getting into Python.
[03:33] <ed_debian> geeksquad, Sorry man I have no idea.
[03:33] <agonnerman> Again, though, the office where I work doesn't use python.  uses ruby.
[03:34] <IAmABot007> hi
[03:34] <colonelqubit1> agonnerman: honestly, I run across various bits and pieces of things when sysadmining.
[03:35] <colonelqubit1> agonnerman: so if you have a basic understanding of bash, perl, python, and ruby, then you'll do okay
[03:35] <geeksquad> does anybody know how to install the drivers from a windows driver cd on ubuntu
[03:35] <ed_debian> geeksquad, do you know what ndiswrapper is?
[03:35] <colonelqubit1> agonnerman: just jump in and start poking at some simple scripts. Start with one language at a time, then expand your knowledge as you go
[03:35] <aaditya> geeksquad: drivers for what?
[03:36] <geeksquad> my motherboards network chip, its a XFX 750i sli
[03:36] <ed_debian> ndiswrapper lets you use windows (wifi) drivers in linux.  It is a wrapper.  You would need to find something similar for nic cards
[03:37] <agonnerman> thanks colonelqubit1 and everyone else.
[03:37] <monkiesatemybaby> ubuntu noob - failing to find the shared (public) folder on my wifes vista pc
[03:37] <monkiesatemybaby> Unable to mount location
[03:37] <ed_debian> monkiesatemybaby, DId you install samba?
[03:37] <geeksquad> now how do i use ndiswrapper
[03:37] <cerealhungry> I'm running Ubuntu 9.04 and Firefox 3.0, I would like to get .wma files to play "in the background".  What happens right now, if I use the Movie or VLC plug in, it open the download windown and the player and plays it.  I don't want any of that.
[03:38] <monkiesatemybaby> just installed samba and rebooted
[03:38] <aaditya> geeksquad: your network card should work out of the box without installing a hardware
[03:38] <ed_debian> geeksquad, it's a package.  And it has a gtk front-end but it only works for wifi drivers
[03:38] <ed_debian> (certain ones at that) just get it from the repos
[03:38] <geeksquad> but this one doesent
[03:38] <ed_debian> monkiesatemybaby, open a terminal and run smbtree
[03:39] <monkiesatemybaby> i sdone
[03:39] <geeksquad> all it says in XP is that is a NVIDIA nForce network controller
[03:39] <monkiesatemybaby> i see her pc
[03:39] <ed_debian> geeksquad, I once had a system that when the system shut down the driver for my nic freaked out and when the system rebooted the nic was totally gone.
[03:40] <aaditya> geeksquad: let's start with dmesg output
[03:40] <ed_debian> Try killing the power on your system at any point (i suggest early in the boot process to avoid problems) That's what used to get my nic back
[03:40] <ed_debian> monkiesatemybaby, man samba
[03:40] <sjokkis> when i adjust the master volume in pulseaudio, it also adjusts the pcm volume in alsamixer, and vice versa. are these supposed to be coupled?
[03:40] <monkiesatemybaby> it says Failed to retrieve share list from server
[03:41] <annaimkonki> hello everyone. how can i burn mp3 in k3b?
[03:41] <aaditya> geeksquad: if you could pastebin the output of `dmesg`. A simple way to do so is   `dmesg  | pastebinit `
[03:41] <annaimkonki> is brasaro burner messed up?
[03:41] <aaditya> annaimkonki: there's a plugin in k3b that allows you to deal with mp3
[03:41] <monkiesatemybaby> man samba??
[03:41] <ed_debian> monkiesatemybaby, You're setting up a samba client https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[03:42] <monkiesatemybaby> ok
[03:42] <ed_debian> nop
[03:42] <annaimkonki> aaditya: whats it called?
[03:42] <ed_debian> np*
[03:42] <geeksquad> well i also have a wifi card installed that does have drivers on linux but wifi is painstakingly slow. but i will reboot and see if it works
[03:42] <aaditya> annaimkonki: looking for it
[03:42] <annaimkonki> thanks
[03:42] <annaimkonki> brb
[03:43] <aaditya> !info libk3b3-extracodecs | annaimkonki
[03:43] <aaditya> annaimkonki: install the package above and restart k3b
[03:45] <korjata> Hi, I recently formatted a hard drive and I can't do anything to it because it was created by root.
[03:46] <ed_debian> korjata, What are you trying to do?
[03:46] <the1corrupted> Can anyone help me?  When linux tries to play sounds, all I hear is static.
[03:46] <annaimkonki> ok thanks! :)
[03:46] <ed_debian> korjata, This harddrive is formatted ext3?
[03:46] <korjata> ed_debian: just normal operations, writing files, making folders.
[03:46] <korjata> ed_debian: fat32
[03:47] <tuxxy__> the1corrupted: can you hear test sounds in sound prefs
[03:47] <ed_debian> korjata, So you want this as extra /home space sorta?
[03:47] <the1corrupted> tuxxy__ That's just it.  It's all static.
[03:47] <ed_debian> fat32?!?!
[03:47] <dsdeiz> where do you guys get audacious skins? :D
[03:47] <tuxxy__> the1corrupted: try setting sound playback to ALSA?
[03:47] <annaimkonki> still doesn't work... it wants me to convert the mp3 files
[03:48] <aaditya> annaimkonki: did you restart k3b?
[03:48] <korjata> ed_debian: I have two hd's in my box and I formatted the second.  Now I can't do anything.  Should I reformat the drive as something else?
[03:48] <annaimkonki> yes
[03:48] <Detrix> I have a realtek 8187b.  its working, but when I get like 20 feet from it, the network Icon says I have signal, but I can not communicate, cant even log on to the router.
[03:48] <Detrix> why
[03:48] <aaditya> !prefix | annaimkonki
[03:48] <geirha> annaimkonki: Do you want to make an audio cd or a data cd with mp3s?
[03:48] <tiyowan> Detrix: Can you ping your router?
[03:49] <annaimkonki> geirha: audio cd
[03:49] <ed_debian> korjata, It is important to understand your file-system a little bit when you want to add space to it.  I believe that you're going to use this second drive sort of like extra space for your personal things (i.e. not system files) is this correct?
[03:49] <ed_debian> No you don't necessarily need to repartition
[03:49] <Bob_Dole> I once used a IRC client where tab didn't work and it made me sad :(
[03:49] <Detrix> tiyowan: I am currenly close enough I should, I will try now.
[03:49] <korjata> ed_debian: yes.
[03:49] <the1corrupted> tuxxy__: That's not the problem.  Alsa sees it, it used to work, but something got fubar'ed in the mix, and now it doesn't work.  Is there a way to "reset" the sound card?  It has nothing to do with the drivers (which I reinstalled), but everything in how Linux interfaces with the sound card.
[03:49] <annaimkonki> i did it before w/ 8.04 but this is 9.10 and brasero normalizes the track forever
[03:49] <barqers> Does anyone know if ATI Radeon X1300 cards are supported by proprietary drivers? Or only open source?
[03:49] <ed_debian> korjata, Is the harddrive mounted automatically?
[03:50] <korjata> ed_debian: I believe so.
[03:50] <the1corrupted> barqers Proprietary only.
[03:50] <Detrix> tiyowan: at the moment I can. I will have to wait until tomorrow to try it elsewhere.
[03:50] <ed_debian> korjata, In "computer" if you double click (open) the drive does it tell you "You're not privilaged to mount this shit" or does it open and show nothing (cause the disk is empty)
[03:50] <barqers> the1corrupted: Howcome I don't get the "new hardware" thing that I usually get upon a fresh install of ubuntu, and doesn't allow me to install proprietary drivers?
[03:51] <Bob_Dole> How fast have the Open drivers been developing since AMD opened up the specs to their cards?
[03:51] <the1corrupted> barqers I don't know.  Perhaps it doesn't see it.  Occasionally, a reboot may be required.  Unless you tried that.
[03:51] <chez>  how do i use chmod to stop users from accessing certain folders?
[03:51] <monkiesatemybaby> ok i reread that page but perhaps im thick... if i go to places>network it shows my pc, her pc, and windows network. ican go through windows network to her pc as well, but in either case when i doubleclick her pc icon it says Unable to mount location Failed to retrieve share list from server
[03:51] <aaditya> !chmod | chez
[03:52] <ed_debian> chez, chown changes the owner on a file
[03:52] <tiyowan> Detrix: Okay...and what happens when you ping any website?
[03:52] <korjata> ed_debian: It's empty and it's already mounted.
[03:52] <dhendrix> chez:  remove execute permission from the directory
[03:52] <ed_debian> korjata, Well that's good, one step down
[03:52] <aaditya> tiyowan: you should get a reply from that website
[03:52] <monkiesatemybaby> her pc has a public folder that i could read with windows xp ab hour ago
[03:52] <ed_debian> if you hit the up (not the back the up) where do you land?
[03:52] <chez> dhendrix: WIll i still be able to access it?
[03:53] <Detrix> tiyowan: it works but I will have to try tomorrow when I can get further away from the router
[03:53] <ed_debian> korjata, Should be /media/"something"
[03:53] <korjata> ed_debian: media.
[03:53] <tiyowan> aaditya: Yes, I know. :) Question was for Detrix.
[03:53] <ed_debian> korjata, Have you used the terminal before?  Do you know what the cd command does?
[03:53] <the1corrupted> barqers You could always go to System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[03:53] <geirha> korjata: Did you add an entry for it in /etc/fstab?
[03:53] <aaditya> monkiesatemybaby: when you see "Unable to mount", trying again usually fixes the problem
[03:54] <korjata> ed_debian: yep the cd command changes the directory
[03:54] <ed_debian> awesome
[03:54] <tiyowan> Detrix: Oh, so you're not near the router you are having problems with right now?
[03:54] <ed_debian> open a terminal change to /media
[03:54] <korjata> ed_debian: I don't know what that is.
[03:54] <monkiesatemybaby> tried about 20 times now after mutual reboots etc
[03:54] <white_> i need help with gtk-gnutella
[03:54] <dhendrix> chez:  Yeah. Just remove execute permission for "group" and "other" permissions. Try "chmod go-x foo"
[03:54] <ed_debian> korjata, You don't know what a terminal is?
[03:54] <sjokkis> when i adjust the master volume in pulseaudio, it also adjusts the pcm volume in alsamixer, and vice versa. are these supposed to be coupled?
[03:54] <korjata> ed_debian: I know that.
[03:54] <barqers> the1corrupted: It says "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[03:54] <ed_debian> lol
[03:54] <monkiesatemybaby> the internet connection goes thru her pc and i didnt have to set it up ayt all it worked as soon as i got ubuntu installed
[03:54] <korjata> ed_debian: not the /etc/fstab.
[03:55] <white_> anyone know how to update/upgrade gnutella?
[03:55] <white_> gtk gnutella?
[03:55] <Detrix> tiyowan: I am near the router now which is why its working.  its when I move about 20feet away from the router that I have problems
[03:55] <white_> I cant connect
[03:55] <korjata> ed_debian: k I typed cd /media.
[03:55] <the1corrupted> barqers: I remember getting that problem once, but it was cleared up with a clean reboot.
[03:55] <ed_debian> korjata, That wasn't me.  I know what it is though  /etc/fstab tells ubuntu how to mount the various filesystems it might encounter.  It is a config file
[03:55] <ed_debian> korjata ls what is in /media
[03:55] <white_> ed_debian:  you download music?
[03:56] <robdig> sjokkis: yes, that is default. if you want to stop it, open volume control, and click the chain link under the control that you want to unlink
[03:56] <Detrix> tiyowan: I suppose I could wonder around a bit a try pinging the router.
[03:56] <ed_debian> white_, I have. Why?
[03:56] <white_> ed_debian:  im looking for a program to download music
[03:56] <ed_debian> white_, Use torrents
[03:56] <ed_debian> transmission
[03:56] <white_> ed_debian: that takes awhile doesnt it?
[03:57] <the1corrupted> Here's a general question...  Why are there so many unreadable files in my /dev dir?
[03:57] <tiyowan> Detrix: Hmm...if it works when you're near the router, but not when you move away, then it would seem that there is a problem in the transmission of the signal.
[03:57] <ed_debian> white_, Only becuase you typically download 1 gb of data.
[03:57] <sjokkis> robdig: doesn't that merely decouple the left and right channels?
[03:57] <korjata> ed_debian: cdrom, cdrom0, floppy, floppy0, local disk (the one I want), and portable disk.
[03:57] <ed_debian> cd into local disk
[03:57] <monkiesatemybaby> any other thoughts on how i can get to the 150 GB of crunchy info i backed up on my wifes pc be4 i installed ubuntu?
[03:57] <tuxxy__> the1corrupted: did you check your PCM volume in gnome-volume-control
[03:57] <robdig> sjokkis: hmm, you may be right.
[03:58] <ed_debian> korjata, then sudo mkdir "a folder"
[03:58] <sjokkis> robdig: i tried and that's what happened
[03:58] <the1corrupted> tuxxy__ Volume's fine.  I use VMWare to put up a Windows Machine.  My comp froze and I had to reboot so VMWare wasn't shut down properly.  Now sounds work in my VM but not in Linux.
[03:59] <korjata> ed_debian: done
[03:59] <Detrix> tiyowan: yes this is what has been confusing me. I thought that a wifi signal could go about or at least 100feet. but I am beginning to wonder
[03:59] <ed_debian> sudo chown korjata a folder (replace what seems obvious lol)
[03:59] <ed_debian> actually
[03:59] <ed_debian> lmao
[03:59] <ed_debian> this is silly
[04:00] <ed_debian> cd to /media
[04:00] <FloodBot2> ed_debian: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:00] <eseven73> !enter
[04:00] <tiyowan> Detrix: Have you tried using another computer to connect to router from a distance?
[04:00] <ed_debian> and simply sudo chown korjata local\ disk
[04:00] <ed_debian> korjata, Sorry about that idk what I was thinking
[04:00] <korjata> ed_debian: type in my desktop name where korjata is?
[04:01] <the1corrupted> tuxxy__: There's also a ton of unreadable files in my /dev/ directory...
[04:01] <ed_debian> yeah type your username (idk what it is)
[04:02] <stealth-> would the xrandr command return hardware based results or would it be based on the xconf file?
[04:02] <korjata> ed_debian: I would hope not.  done.
[04:02] <ed_debian> korjata, lol
[04:02] <tuxxy__> the1corrupted: sounds like a vmware issue check sound config in that, uninstall vmware could be an option - virtualbox is very good also
[04:02] <ed_debian> So chown changes the owner of a file
[04:02] <Fezzler> My YouTube video jumps around.  Sound is great.
[04:02] <monkiesatemybaby> ok ive decided im not informed enogh for linux yet...ill try a dual boot system for a while and see if i catch on
[04:02] <Detrix> tiyowan: sorry was taking the laptop for a walk
[04:02] <ed_debian> the owner of a file has full permission
[04:03] <ed_debian> so you should be able to open your "local disk" now and for example create a folder
[04:03] <joanki123> does anyone know how i can find Nautilus?  or what it is?
[04:03] <tuxxy__> who in here is from UK or is it just me
[04:03] <ed_debian> monkiesatemybaby, You just tried to tackle one of the largest and most complicated systems (samba) don't fret
[04:03] <coz_> stealth-,   I thought it based its readouts to the connection to xserver  I could be wrong
[04:03] <joanki123> i have instructions that say: Start up Nautilus and go to Edit--->Preferences and select the Media tab.
[04:03] <the1corrupted> tuxxy__ VMWare pulls the "auto detect" card...
[04:03] <stealth-> joanki123: nataulis is the file browser that gnome uses.
[04:03] <korjata> ed_debian: Lol, I forgot to capitalize
[04:03] <monkiesatemybaby> oh did i?
[04:03] <joanki123> stealth-, how do i start it?
[04:03] <monkiesatemybaby> lol
[04:03] <xxubuntu> can anyone tell me how to fix the multimedia keyboard in xubuntu?
[04:04] <Detrix> tiyowan: only other computer I have to try with is an xp maching
[04:04] <stealth-> joanki123: run the command, open a directory in gnome, etc
[04:04] <korjata> ed_debian: It says operation not permitted.
[04:04] <sysadmin> how can
[04:04] <sysadmin> i reinstall grub?
[04:04] <ed_debian> korjata, sudo chmod?
[04:04] <ed_debian> korjata, sudo chown* rather
[04:05] <stealth-> joanki123: by default, any time your using a file browser in gnome its nautalis. You can check by going to Help>about from the browser window
[04:05] <the1corrupted> tuxxy__ Holy crap...  I'm a loser...  I didn't check the PCM volume until now...  *head.. meets... desk*
[04:05] <monkiesatemybaby> maybe a bit more info...the shared folder is public, and should be easy to access... it showed up auto in network places on windows, and the pc shows up in ubuntu now, it just wont get past the pc name
[04:05] <korjata> ed_debian: chown: missing operand try chown -- help for more info
[04:05] <sysadmin> !grub
[04:05] <joanki123> stealth-, thanks
[04:06] <ed_debian> korjata copy / paste your exact command (remove your username)
[04:06] <vasy> hi everyone.. I have problem with my laptop battery options to shutdown when its too low or critical.
[04:06] <Detrix> sysadmin: you need to boot off the live cd and run the grub...there is a web page but I dont remember it
[04:06] <monkiesatemybaby> ill shut up and wait if patience is what im currently lacking lol
[04:06] <vasy> anyone facing the same issues ?
[04:06] <stealth-> coz_: okay, thanks anyways. Is there a way I could check to see the hardware maximum?
[04:06] <joanki123> Hm... i also have this: Right click on Applications and select Edit Menus.  This will bring up the Main Menu window
[04:06] <joanki123> i don't see Applications in this menu
[04:06] <ed_debian> monkiesatemybaby, I think nobody really knows / wants to tackle samba right now
[04:06] <korjata> ed_debian: name@name-desktop:/media$ sudo chown name Local\ Disk
[04:07] <monkiesatemybaby> deal
[04:07] <xxubuntu> can anyone tell me how to fix the multimedia keyboard in xubuntu?
[04:07] <dft> monkiesatemybaby: what's up with samba?
[04:07] <coz_> stealth-, this man page seems pretty complete for what it does and what yo u can do with it  http://www.xfree86.org/current/Xrandr.3.html
[04:07] <stealth-> !repeat | xxubuntu
[04:07] <vasy> hi anyone having batter options issues ie. shutdown when its too low but its not working
[04:07] <monkiesatemybaby> ill go hump it like a retard on a football and see what i come up with at least i know its a samba specific issue
[04:07] <dft> monkiesatemybaby: interesting analogy
[04:07] <stealth-> coz_: oh, k. I forgot about that *facepalm*. Thanks
[04:07] <joanki123> nm i figured it out
[04:07] <Detrix> vasy: I believe its suppose to do that.
[04:08] <Original> good evening
[04:08] <joanki123> thanks for your help stealth-
[04:08] <stealth-> joanki123: np
[04:08] <coz_> stealth-,   :)   quickly reading it looks like your questions should be answered there in some detail:)
[04:08] <vasy> detrix: I selected the option to shutdown when its too low.. but its not actually working.. I am using jaunty
[04:08] <stealth-> coz_: k
[04:08] <Original> I have a question about ubuntu
[04:08] <darkham> hey people, every time i want to change the third part repository in synaptic , i've the little window "repositories changed"
[04:09] <Original> why not ubuntu and windows?
[04:09] <darkham> and i can't do anything
[04:09] <ed_debian> korjata, I have just learned (google told me) that fat and ntfs don't support linux/unix persmissions (like chown) which is why you cannot change them!
[04:09] <korjata> ed_debian: Then what should I change it to?
[04:10] <korjata> ed_debian: I have nothing on there so it doesn't matter.
[04:10] <vasy> detrix: any help would be appreciated?
[04:10] <ed_debian> korjata, We have 2 options 1 re-format to ext3 (pretty file-system) or we could edit /etc/fstab to allow you to write to your "Local\ Disk" via options when mounting
[04:10] <Detrix> vasy: I have not really needed to change my battery settings.  Jauntry should be pretty well set up to do it properly
[04:10] <korjata> ed_debian: ext3
[04:10] <coz_> stealth-,  of course...if anything like me... it helps if someone is regularly using this  to kind of frame the possiblities in a smaller explanation than a "man" page :)
[04:10] <korjata> brb!
[04:10] <Detrix> vasy: so I am not the best person to help
[04:10] <ed_debian> korjata, ok.  I'll be ready and waiting when you get back.
[04:10] <vasy> detrix: thanks..
[04:11] <stealth-> Original: thats considered trolling, and isnt really a support question. maybe you'll get a better answer in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:11] <coz_> stealth-,   for that kind of synopsys  I move over to the #linux channel
[04:11] <vasy> detrix: I will search it in the net
[04:11] <stealth-> coz_: :)
[04:11] <darkham> how can i purge the sources.list in synaptic?
[04:12] <coz_> darkham,  you want to get rid of it?
[04:12] <Decessus> hey, my thumb drive has seemed to stop auto-mounting, what do I have to edit to make it do it again? My disc media /will/ auto mount, but no USB devices
[04:12] <dft> that sounds like a bad idea
[04:13] <Decessus> s/no/not
[04:13] <dft> Decessus, try restarting hald
[04:13] <Decessus> dft I have
[04:13] <dft> hmm, okay
[04:13] <poboy975> hello, I have a dell laptop, the wireless used to work, but now it doesnt. is there a way to completly remove the network settings? to bring network back to a fresh install state?
[04:13] <coz_> darkham,   or do you want a default sources list?
[04:13] <ed_debian> Decessus, Did you pull the drive before unmounting?
[04:13] <darkham> coz_:i want to solve a problem i have in synaptic: every time i want to load the screen when i can edit the repos, i've the screen "repositories changed"
[04:13] <Decessus> ed_debian, no, never do
[04:13] <korjata> ed_debian: K it's all done and I ran the command and it all works now.
[04:14] <coz_> darkham,  mm
[04:14] <ed_debian> That was fast!
[04:14] <coz_> darkham,  any other errors?
[04:14] <ed_debian> korjata, Good job.  Any other problems?
[04:14] <darkham> coz_:not
[04:14] <Decessus> I can manually mount it fine, but then I need root access to add files
[04:14] <ed_debian> Decessus, sudo /etc/init.d/dev restart?
[04:15] <darkham> coz__ a little bit strange, is the screen after adding a repo, but i haven't change anithing
[04:15] <coz_> darkham,   try   sudo  rm -rf  /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin  srcpkgcache.bin  you may have to do those separately
[04:15] <korjata> ed_debian: just a problem in rtorrent that I'm asking in their irc.  I don't think there are any others.
[04:15] <npm2> can anyone assist with ubuntu dial up issues?
[04:15] <ed_debian> korjata, Ok
[04:16] <Decessus> ed_debian, command not found ;\
[04:16] <korjata> ed_debian: I transferred a 13 gigabyte folder to my local disk from my linux hd.  It had no file transfer, is that normal?
[04:17] <darkham> coz_: nothing is changed....
[04:17] <ed_debian> no something is wrong there
[04:17] <ed_debian> go look at the folder is it all there?
[04:17] <darkham> coz_: i don't know what to do..
[04:17] <coz_> darkham,   mm  is this a default sources.list or have you added repos to it?
[04:17] <korjata> ed_debian: yep, but i did take the files from there...
[04:17] <korjata> and the video works perfectly.
[04:18] <underdog7> does anyone know a good hardware-help channel?
[04:18] <ed_debian> korjata, You transferred 13GB of data from one harddrive to another in less than a second?
[04:18] <darkham> coz_: i've added other repos, but things like the kubuntu repos for kde4, the deluge repo, xbmc repos, nothing more
[04:18] <korjata> ed_debian: yes and my computer is older than dirt.
[04:18] <poboy975> hello, I have a dell laptop, the wireless used to work, but now it doesnt. is there a way to completly remove the network settings? to bring network back to a fresh install state?
[04:18] <coz_> darkham,   and this happens in sysnapitc  or  add remove?
[04:18] <korjata> ed_debian: miracle...
[04:18] <ed_debian> korjata, It's a miracle!!!
[04:19] <korjata> ed_debian: !!!
[04:19] <coz_> darkham,  synaptic sorry
[04:19] <darkham> coz_:this issue i have, it's from today and i don't have added nothing in the last 2 weeks
[04:19] <ed_debian> korjata, !!  lol, idk.  Are you sure it isn't a symlink or something?
[04:19] <darkham> coz_: in synaptic gui
[04:19] <korjata> ed_debian: symlink?
[04:20] <darkham> coz_: i can load only preferencies
[04:20] <ed_debian> korjata, If you click on any file in you have the option to "make link" they're like shortcuts in windows
[04:20] <coz_> darkham,  ok  go into synaptic  Serrings  Repositories Third party  tab  and disable the added repos
[04:20] <ehtesh> sorry to interrupt...
[04:20] <ed_debian> softlinks simply point to a file in another place, hardlinks are exact full copies (if you change one they both change)
[04:20] <ehtesh> i am installing ubuntu from CD
[04:20] <coz_> darkham,   synaptic...settings...repositories...Third party tab
[04:20] <ehtesh> but it is asking for username and password....
[04:20] <darkham> coz_: i can't load the screen , is this my problem
[04:20] <coz_> oh!
[04:21] <korjata> ed_debian: nope, drag and drop.  Btw I have only a 700 mhz processor and 768 m of ram.
[04:21] <ehtesh> what username and password can i give?
[04:21] <berg> root/toor
[04:21] <coz_> darkham,   ok  sudo gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:21] <concerta> virgo girls
[04:21] <coz_> darkham,   comment the added repos
[04:21] <coz_> darkham,  save  and try again
[04:21] <darkham> coz_: ok
[04:21] <ed_debian> Even the fastest processor in the world would take some time because of disk i/o but if the files are there they're there
[04:22] <korjata> It was probably because the files WERE there.
[04:22] <ed_debian> korjata, In the spirit of blind faith lets not question the miracles of the lord lol
[04:22] <korjata> lol.
[04:22] <ed_debian> korjata, maybe
[04:22] <korjata> ed_debian: I wonder if anyone here knows of miracles.
[04:23] <anom01y> hi, I installed java6-jre, but facebook's games don't play
[04:23] <mobi-sheep> Meh.  Did Gnome ever release a fix for AisleRiot Spider Solitaire for many to-be-Ubuntu moms out there?
[04:23] <ed_debian> korjata, You mean besides the one we just discovered on your system?
[04:23] <anom01y> what do I need to do to get this to work ?
[04:23] <korjata> ed_debian: well knows how they are caused.
[04:23] <ed_debian> korjata, Maybe!  Idk
[04:23] <darkham> coz_: nothing is changed...
[04:24] <poboy975> hello so anyone available?
[04:24] <coz_> darkham,    I am puzzled then   I will had you over to others here   sorry guy
[04:24] <darkham> coz_: it's very strange...
[04:24] <korjata> ed_debian: my computer can barely play videos, I don't know how.  lemme try another file.
[04:24] <mobi-sheep> poboy975: Ask the real question.
[04:25] <poboy975> hello, I have a dell laptop, the wireless used to work, but now it doesnt. is there a way to completly remove the network settings? to bring network back to a fresh install state?
[04:25] <korjata> ed_debian: when I drag and drop it disappears from one and goes to the other as if they were one.
[04:25] <coz_> darkham,     https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/113424
[04:25] <ed_debian> wow, instantly?
[04:25] <rootvirus> sup all
[04:25] <mobi-sheep> poboy975: You sure it's not a laptop's wireless switch?  Laptop often have them.
[04:25] <Bob_Dole> So, installing Xen... I'm assuming I need to do something in command line to install it? I don't see anything in the GUI Add/Remove for actually installing xen, just a gui to manage it
[04:25] <korjata> ed_debian: you know how you can put a file into a subfolder instantly?
[04:25] <Bob_Dole> sudo apt-get install xen ?
[04:26] <ed_debian> korjata, O, yes I know what you mean.  Moving files around on a single disk never takes anytime.  It is acting as if they are the same disk?
[04:26] <Bob_Dole> !xen
[04:27] <albech> i am having a problem with a client that request and drop dhcp leases every 2-3 minutes.. what can cause this?
[04:27] <korjata> ed_debian: maybe it's because they're the same filesystem.
[04:27] <ed_debian> korjata, How full is "Local Disk" ?
[04:27] <albech> the lease expire time is 24hours
[04:27] <Fezzler> Is there a command line to tell me version of Ubuntu on this PC I am using?
[04:27] <lstarnes> Fezzler: lsb_release -a
[04:27] <poboy975> yeah, the laptop wireless is on, but the driver is not loading correctly. I've tried the b43legacy driver, it connects to wireless ap but signel isnt right, doesnt actually work
[04:27] <korjata> ed_debian: 19 gigs but the files are 13
[04:28] <ForLife> Hello
[04:28] <poboy975> I also tried the ndiswrapper but its not working either. my iwconfig shows a wmaster0, and a wlan0
[04:28] <ed_debian> so it is mostly full
[04:28] <ed_debian> korjata, open gparted
[04:28] <Fezzler> lstarnes, Jauty
[04:28] <korjata> I am.
[04:28] <mobi-sheep> poboy975: What's model?  I'll try and google around on Ubuntu community.
[04:29] <korjata> ed_debian: says 621 megs are used
[04:29] <ed_debian> korjata, on local-disk?
[04:29] <Fezzler> Using Xchat.  Where do I change color for my user I - light gray now - hard to see
[04:29] <poboy975> it was using the broadcom 1400 dell
[04:29] <korjata> ed_debian: yep sdb
[04:30] <poboy975> I was wondering if there is a way to reset the network completly back to fresh install setting
[04:30] <ed_debian> korjata, So obviously something is wrong because it should be 13gb used 6(ish)GB free yes?
[04:30] <mobi-sheep> Fezzler: Look in XChat Menu --> System --> Preferences --> Colors ("Under Interface")
[04:30] <korjata> ed_debian: it's 30 gigs but yeah.
[04:30] <ed_debian> o ok
[04:31] <ed_debian> korjata, What is the mount-point of sdb?
[04:31] <Fezzler> mobi-sheep>> Txs
[04:31] <quitenormal> hi. I bought a USB HDD enclosure, that powers down automatically when it's not in use. Unfortunately ubuntu drops it from the file system whenever it does that, and I can't get it back. Anybody know how I can fix this?
[04:31] <ed_debian> korjata, Does it show up that /dev/sdb is 30GB?
[04:31] <korjata> ed_debian: media/localdisk
[04:31] <korjata> ed_debian: 27.95
[04:31] <colonelqubit> quitenormal: remount it?
[04:31] <quitenormal> colonelqubit doesn't seem to appear in nautilus.
[04:32] <ed_debian> korjata, Do you have a /media/localdisk and a /media/Local\ Disk?
[04:32] <Computer_Man> any ideas on where to get a drive for a dell gx260 video card so that I can use compiz?
[04:32] <korjata> ed_debian: I don't think so.
[04:32] <ed_debian> go to /media and double check?
[04:32] <colonelqubit> quitenormal: but the drive is still getting power?
[04:32] <zerkalous> i have a problem with my webcam
[04:33] <korjata> ed_debian: I have a local disk and a portable disk but that's something else.
[04:33] <quitenormal> colonelqubit yeah the drive is in a USB enclosure, and is still getting power ... if I switch it off, and then back on again, it reappears in the filesystem.
[04:33] <korjata> ed_debian: I got a 320 external.
[04:33] <zerkalous> i can't install my webcam.. is a genius messenger 112
[04:33] <colonelqubit> quitenormal: so you want it to wake-on-use?
[04:33] <Fezzler> mobi-sheep>> I'm in Xchat Setting, Preferences, Interface, Colors - but which setting changes my ID?
[04:33] <quitenormal> colonelqubit yes, that's the hope.
[04:34] <korjata> ed_debian: can we continue this tomorrow? it's quite late here.
[04:34] <Fezzler> mobi-sheep>> Must be "Local colors"
[04:34] <mobi-sheep> Fezzler: Look at the color that you don't like.
[04:34] <colonelqubit> quitenormal: yeah, I don't have any USB drives like that, so I'm not sure if that's supported by Ubuntu.  Have you tried it under Windows and had the wake-on-use work?
[04:34] <ed_debian> korjata, o sorry.  Sure I can't guarantee I'l be here but I'll try.  Same time tomorrow?
[04:34] <ed_debian> What time is it there?
[04:34] <Fezzler> mobi-sheep>> Yup
[04:34] <ed_debian> it is 10:34 here
[04:34] <quitenormal> colonelqubit no I haven't tried it under windows. Don't think I have a windows handy anywhere currently, alas. :(
[04:35] <ed_debian> (pm)
[04:35] <colonelqubit> quitenormal: good for you!  (of course, it does come in handy when trying to diagnose hardware like this...)
[04:36] <Fezzler> mobi-sheep>> Hmm
[04:36] <korjata> I get home at 7pm GMT
[04:36] <ed_debian> lets see I'm 6+ GMT
[04:37] <ed_debian> :(
[04:37] <Fezzler> mobi-sheep>> Test
[04:37] <korjata> so that's 1
[04:37] <ed_debian> lol
[04:37] <ed_debian> yeah
[04:37] <korjata> I can get on from then on.
[04:37] <ed_debian> I'll try lol
[04:37] <ed_debian> I'm not making any promises
[04:37] <korjata> Ok, bye ed.
[04:37] <ed_debian> bye korjata
[04:37] <Fezzler> tes
[04:38] <FFForever> how do i install a font?
[04:39] <Dreamglider> how can i dir in to the trash folder ?
[04:39] <quitenormal> colonelqubit how would it help? Work out whether the device actually can wake-on-use in XP? Rule out the device being faulty?
[04:39] <eseven73> !fonts | FFForever
[04:39] <ed_debian> Dreamglider /.Trash
[04:39] <ed_debian> Dreamglider cd /.Trash
[04:40] <sysadmin> how can I restore wireless connection icon? I erased it by mistake and dont know how to put it back
[04:40] <colonelqubit> quitenormal: yes. I just wanted to make sure that this hardware could in fact wake up
[04:40] <ed_debian> sysadmin, add a gnome-notification applet
[04:40] <quitenormal> colonelqubit might try and work that out then. Thanks.
[04:40] <Dreamglider> ed_debian, no such file or dir
[04:40] <colonelqubit> quitenormal: you could try googling for "usb wake up" + the hardware name, too.
[04:40] <ed_debian> sysadmin, "notification area"
[04:40] <colonelqubit> quitenormal: good luck!
[04:40] <raevol> gparted isn't letting me label a fat32 thumb drive i have :[ any ideas why?
[04:40] <quitenormal> colonelqubit at least the device switches off ... so I'm in no danger of my HD burning out if I accidentally leave it on. That's something.
[04:40] <sysadmin> ed_debian, could you be more specific
[04:41] <raevol> the option is greyed out, drive is unmounted
[04:41] <stillinbeta> hi, I installed kubuntu desktop using aptitude install kubuntu-desktop on top of my vanilla Ibex install and I can't seem to remove it. I already tried aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop
[04:41] <ed_debian> Dreamglider, o, you're right.  I don't know :(
[04:41] <ed_debian> sysadmin, You have a gnome-panel?>
[04:41] <colonelqubit> quitenormal: yeah, I was having a problem with ubuntu not actually turning off when I shut down the computer. Luckily I never tossed my laptop into my backpack after doing that.... could have been an oven in there.
[04:41] <Dreamglider> cd ..
[04:41] <Dreamglider> cd ..
[04:42] <Dreamglider> oops wrong window
[04:42] <ed_debian> Dreamglider, cd /home/.Trash?
[04:42] <ed_debian> nevermind
[04:42] <Dreamglider> ed_debian,  it's not in home either
[04:42] <colonelqubit> I'm having suspend/hibernation problems and I filed a bug about a month ago (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/366264) but haven't gotten any responses or requests for more information. What should I do next?
[04:43] <ed_debian> Dreamglider, Yeah I'm sorry I just don't know :( lol, I tried though!
[04:43] <Dreamglider> i have a couple of files in trash i cant get rid of
[04:44] <ed_debian> Dreamglider, I think restarting will empty trash?
[04:44] <Dreamglider> ed_debian, the files have been there for weeks
[04:44] <ed_debian> Dreamglider, I should really stop talking out of my butt here
[04:44] <ed_debian> lol
[04:45] <Dreamglider> in nautilus the location is trash:///
[04:45] <Dreamglider> hehe yea sometimes it's just best to shut it.
[04:45] <colonelqubit> Dreamglider: are the perms set such that you can't delete them?
[04:46] <Fezzler> mobi-sheep>> Got it!
[04:46] <Dreamglider> colonelqubit, yes
[04:46] <unop_> Dreamglider, unset the permissions so you can delete them then :)
[04:47] <Dreamglider> colonelqubit, and i cannot change the perms they are grayed out
[04:47] <U2GB> Dreamglider, see at ~/.local/share/Trash
[04:48] <sysadmin> how can I restore wireless connection icon? I erased it by mistake and dont know how to put it back
[04:48] <Dreamglider> U2GB, thanks mate.
[04:48] <unop_> Dreamglider,  find ~/.local/share/Trash ! -user "$USER" -exec sudo rm -iv {} \;
[04:49] <mobi-sheep> Fezzler: Good. :)
[04:50] <Fezzler> mobi-sheep>> Actually under Settings, Advanced, Text Handlers
[04:50] <Fezzler> mobi-sheep>> make that Text Events
[04:51] <munch13> sysadmin: you'd need to add 'nm-applet' to your startup programs in gnome
[04:51] <ddwolf> #join python
[04:51] <Decessus> whats the difference between fstab/mstab?
[04:51] <unop_> /join #python
[04:52] <ehtesh> when i am doing fresh installation, it is asking for username and password to login....
[04:52] <ehtesh> i am giving root, toor
[04:52] <ehtesh> and many more usernames passowrds, but it is not working
[04:52] <ehtesh> any solution please....
[04:52] <unop_> Decessus, one contains a mapping of devices to mountpoints for mount to use, the other contains the list of devices currently mounted and where they are mounted at.
[04:52] <ehtesh> please help me....
[04:53] <ehtesh> what username and password should i use....
[04:53] <ehtesh> is there  any default user
[04:53] <unop_> ehtesh, boot up in recovery mode and create a new user.
[04:53] <colonelqubit> ehtesh: during the install process it asks you for a username and password. use that
[04:53] <ehtesh> i will try it....
[04:53] <colonelqubit> ehtesh: (it asks you to _create_ a user, I should say)
[04:54] <unop_> colonelqubit, that's all good if the person installing .. remembers what it was called :)
[04:55] <colonelqubit> unop_: yeah, writing it down isn't a bad idea
[04:56] <colonelqubit> unop_: I mean, if this is a new install, then we're only talking about an hour max between creating the user and logging in as them, eh?
[04:56] <ehtesh> I dont have any OS on my Hard disk...
[04:57] <ehtesh> and i am trying to install
[04:57] <ehtesh> a new OS
[04:57] <unop_> ehtesh, you mean the live CD session is asking you to log on?
[04:57] <devil_angel> ehtesh: enter isn't puncuation.
[04:57] <Amer> I am having trouble booting from a bootable DVD
[04:57] <Amer> it tells me boot image not found
[04:57] <ehtesh> i think  it is Live CD, but i am selecting start or install option
[04:58] <crzyboi> Amer: have u set ur bios to boot from your cd/dvd drive?
[04:58] <ehtesh> but i dont have any punctuations
[04:58] <ehtesh> yes...
[04:58] <Decessus> unop_, ok, thank you, then would adding my usb device to mstab auto-mount it when I plug it in?
[04:58] <colonelqubit> ehtesh: Is this a regular ubuntu Live CD, or an alternate install CD?
[04:58] <ehtesh> it is booting from CD, for installation, but it is asking for username and passwd
[04:58] <Amer> yes I set it to boot from the DVD.. it tells me the boot image was not found,, then displays "boot:"
[04:58] <Amer> that's all I get
[04:59] <ehtesh> it is Install CD , i beleave, i got a copy from my friend...
[04:59] <Decessus> and /only/ when I plug it in, because adding to auto tag to it in fstab mounts it again after I physically unmount it
[04:59] <crzyboi> Amer: you can try two things... try the alternate disk or burn the disk at a slower speed
[04:59] <devil_angel> Amer: have you tried another DVD?
[04:59] <ehtesh> i have only one CD...
[04:59] <ehtesh> and nothing else...
[04:59] <Amer> the DVD I made boots from my other computer, but not this one..
[04:59] <unop_> Decessus,  well, you should never edit /etc/mtab directly .. you need /etc/fstab for that - but doing so doesn't guarantee that the device is automatically mounted, you just ensure that if it is, it is mounted where you want it to be.
[05:00] <ehtesh> it is going upto log-in ...
[05:00] <crzyboi> Amer: then you might want to try the alternate disk
[05:00] <ehtesh> i have'nt doen anything from OS...bcz i can not at all login....
[05:00] <Amer> what's the alternate disk? "I burned the 9.05 iso from the website"
[05:01] <ehtesh> i too think so, but as i dont have any alternative, i want to know how can we use this CD...
[05:01] <Decessus> unop_, ok, well is there something I /can/ edit to /ensure/ my device gets auto-mounted? It was working well and fine up until yesterday.
[05:01] <ehtesh> any default username and password ubuntu has?
[05:01] <crzyboi> Amer: hold on lemme find it
[05:01] <ehtesh> yep
[05:02] <phobiac> How do you install a module?
[05:02] <sagaci> can someone help me install/upgrade to rhythmbox-0.12.2, http://paste.ubuntu.com/185385/
[05:02] <phobiac> I have a driver file for something, but I can't remember the process of installing it.
[05:02] <phobiac> modprobe?
[05:02] <Amer> thanks!!
[05:02] <crzyboi> Amer: go to http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#mirrors and scroll down to alternate installers
[05:03] <unop_> Decessus, well, the gnome-mount process should automatically take care of that
[05:03] <crzyboi> Amer: you'll have to go through the install process through a text based installer
[05:04] <Decessus> unop_, I know it should, and it used to. But now, it has stopped working. It will auto-mount my disc media, but no usb storage media
[05:06] <ehtesh> but it is also a text based installation CD...
[05:07] <ehtesh> my concern is to break this mystery of username ans password issue to work
[05:07] <ehtesh> i googled and found many people got this kind of problem...
[05:07] <Amer> sure, I'll do that!
[05:07] <crzyboi> ehtesh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=770206
[05:07] <Amer> thanks for the help crzyboi <-- I don't know why the "/msg" doesn't work!
[05:08] <crzyboi> ehtesh: try what ajgreeny says in that forum
[05:08] <poboy975> hello so does anyone know how to restore network setting back to fresh install state?
[05:09] <wigglez> what do i type in at the boot: prompt to boot a ubuntu jaunty installation
[05:09] <wigglez> my damn grub is broken
[05:09] <wigglez> i need to get back into ubuntu to fix it
[05:11] <zenxr> wigglez you can either use a live cd to repair it, or you can boot from hard drive via the live cd
[05:11] <wigglez> nah the MBR is broken on my HD
[05:11] <zenxr> other than that it'd be really hard to fix it, you'd have to edit the grub menu in the grub bootup
[05:11] <wigglez> i need to repair the mbr somehow
[05:12] <zenxr> can you not re-install grub?
[05:12] <wigglez> nah, i should be able to boot into the system at the boot prompt and then just run grub-setup once inside
[05:12] <wigglez> i just dont know what the correct  boot line would be
[05:13]  * alvarezp is away: 
[05:14] <zenxr> I can't really help without your grub menu though :p
[05:15] <JECHO> wiggles message me privately
[05:15] <JECHO> wiggles i can give you the correct line
[05:15] <zenxr> that works too :p
[05:16] <ehtesh> crzyboi: thanks for it, i think i have to go  for another CD....i.e new image
[05:17] <Anacranom> zenxr, try suggesting sudo apt-get install pastebinit and then pastebinit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:17] <ehtesh> and i think the existing one will not work
[05:17] <InCrypto> hey guys .. im tryin 2 build a small repo for my lan here .. but wen i run apt-mirror it keeps giving me this error in cat /var/spool/apt-mirror/var/archive-log.2
[05:17] <reqon> 4m53s till the end (soob soob)
[05:17] <InCrypto> Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com|91.189.88.40|:80... failed: Connection timed out.
[05:18] <InCrypto> im directly connected to the internet and have no proxy
[05:18] <InCrypto> i also checked tht sudo apt-get update does not work
[05:18] <InCrypto> any idea why this happens
[05:18] <reqon> InCrypto, check dns
[05:19] <zenxr> Anacranom: somebody else is helping him
[05:19] <reqon> or gateway
[05:19] <phobiac> I have two files, one is a .so and the other .la, and I know something needs to be done with them for this driver to work. I'm told they are binaries, but I really don't have a clue what to do with them.
[05:19] <reqon> if you can ping gateway, then resolve dns
[05:19] <InCrypto> reqon, vishal@ubuntu-repo:~$ ping google.com
[05:19] <InCrypto> PING google.com (209.85.171.100) 56(84) bytes of data.
[05:19] <InCrypto> 64 bytes from cg-in-f100.google.com (209.85.171.100): icmp_seq=1 ttl=229 time=256 ms
[05:19] <InCrypto> 64 bytes from cg-in-f100.google.com (209.85.171.100): icmp_seq=2 ttl=229 time=248 ms
[05:19] <FloodBot2> InCrypto: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:19] <phobiac> I tried to modprobe both of them in order to load them as modules to the kernel but I just get an error message FATAL: Module not found
[05:20] <jasonmchristos> using xubuntu do not know how to mount, another partition does not automount
[05:20] <InCrypto> dns is fine
[05:20] <reqon> weird
[05:20] <albech> i have a problem with a host on my network that drop its lease and request a new one every 2 min.. what can cause this?? the lease expire time is set to 24h btw
[05:20] <wigglez> gaaaah... what line can i use at the boot prompt to  boot my ubuntu system?
[05:21] <wigglez> i know its possible, i just dont know the syntax
[05:21] <reqon> alright peoples see you guys in windows 7 in around 30mins....smooch smooch luv u all
[05:21] <genii> albech: If it's an Ubuntu client, can be it's own /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf file specifies a different time than the server which gives out the leases does
[05:22] <darlek> reqon, who cares
[05:23] <albech> genii, im not quite sure if it is.. i wasnt aware that the clients could ignore the lease time from the dhcp server
[05:23] <Anacranom> darlek, you missed his exit, was going that direction anyway,
[05:23] <genii> albech: Yes, they can.
[05:23] <InCrypto> reqon , i noticed wen i do a wget ...it resolves the address to the ip but somwhow is not connecting via port 80
[05:23] <sensae> What's so special about win7 anyway?
[05:24] <albech> genii, guess i have to script my way around that somehow, so if people request spam leases they wont get any ;)
[05:24] <InCrypto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/185391/
[05:24] <genii> albech: They can set their own lease times to be less long than the server, but not longer than the server's
[05:24] <anom01y> !recommended
[05:24] <InCrypto> great
[05:24] <anom01y> !recomended
[05:24] <usser> sensae, havent you heard, its the next best thing since sliced bread
[05:25] <albech> genii, thanks.. i will try to track down the host and see what causes this
[05:25] <ccb0x45> anyone know if there is a PPA for the hulu plugin for xbmc?
[05:25] <eseven73> sensae, just more hype from they Redmond Hype Machine
[05:25] <darlek> ubottu > darlek
[05:26] <Pici> darlek: What are you looking for?
[05:26] <darlek> hmm.. i wanted to open ubottu in a msg window ;)  that way I'm not bugging the board
[05:27] <Pici> !bot > darlek
[05:27] <darlek> ah thanks Pici!
[05:27] <mohammed> hello everyone, here from new jersey
[05:27] <Amer> hala m7ammad
[05:27] <Amer> what's up? :)
[05:27] <hax0r1337> !bot > hax0r1337
[05:28] <p4tric> how can i write "foo" in a text file?
[05:28] <mohammed> just upgraded to ubuntu 9.04 from 8.04 everything went cool :)
[05:28] <genii> p4tric: From a terminal ?
[05:28] <p4tric> yup
[05:28] <Amer> that's great!
[05:28] <sagaci> when using apt-get, is there a way to change the output of the download process, such as  the download process outputs say 223442/900kB, is there a method to make the initial number condense into kB?
[05:28] <wigglez> /casper/vmlinuz initrd=/casper/initrd.gz root=/dev/sdXX
[05:28] <KDewhirst> Hi, I'm trying to make a notification program to tell when a window has the urgent hint set, but the screensaver is on or the screen is blanked. I've picked up ledcontrol, and I'm goint to write a bash script, but I don't know how to check if a window is set to urgent. Can anyone help me?
[05:29] <genii> p4tric: If in a dir you own: echo "foo" >> filename
[05:29] <wigglez> maybe someone can remember that for people who might need it in the future :)
[05:29] <Amer> how long have you been using linux?
[05:29] <p4tric> genii: tnx
[05:29] <genii> p4tric: If in a dir you DON'T own: echo "foo" | sudo tee -a filename
[05:29] <KDewhirst> Amer: me?
[05:29] <Amer> nope
[05:29] <Amer> mohammed
[05:29] <mohammed> sup
[05:30] <Daystar> hi, i need help burning ubuntu onto a cd. The iso i downloaded was 699 MB but my cd only fits 656. should i burn it anyway?
[05:30] <KDewhirst> Daystar: no, it won't work
[05:30] <dsl579> whats the command to remove a whole directory
[05:30] <Daystar> should i burn it onto a dvd then? or what..
[05:30] <sagaci> rmdir
[05:30] <usser> dsl579, rm -r directory
[05:30] <tiyowan> Daystar: Get a 700 MB CD.
[05:30] <KDewhirst> dsl579: rm -r (name of directory)
[05:30] <KDewhirst> be careful
[05:30] <tiyowan> Daystar: And burn the ISO onto that.
[05:31] <SnowKitty> hey
[05:31] <bc> KDewhirst: I'm not entirely sure what defines 'urgent' but if it's in the window information, try checking with xwininfo
[05:31] <usser> dsl579, make sure you type the directory name correctly, rm -r is irreversible
[05:31] <SnowKitty> does anybody else have problems with firefox in full screen mode?
[05:31] <KDewhirst> bc: thank you
[05:31] <SnowKitty> when i right click the screen bugs out for a sec
[05:31] <dsl579> oh its stuff on a usb flash i dnt need anyone it
[05:31] <genii> dsl579: The rm command has recursive switch of -r which can be EXTREMELY dangerous. Use with caution
[05:31] <sagaci> SnowKitty: no
[05:31] <bc> KDewhirst: only a guess, hope it leads somewhere :)
[05:31] <KDewhirst> bc: I'll let you know if i find it. Thank you
[05:31] <SnowKitty> any idea what could be wrong?
[05:31] <Daystar> could i do this through a USB?
[05:32] <sagaci> Daystar: yes
[05:32] <SnowKitty> its like the screen disappears for half a sec and i can see my desktop, it reappears and the right clcok thingy shows up
[05:32] <SnowKitty> *click
[05:32] <KDewhirst> Daystar: use unetbootin if you're going to make an iso
[05:32] <SnowKitty> im on 9.04
[05:32] <KDewhirst> Daystar: er-- a live usb
[05:32] <tiyowan> Daystar: There's an application called unetbootin for getting the iso onto a USB drive.
[05:32] <SnowKitty> and my firefox is 3.0.1.0
[05:32] <zethero1> does anyone know how to extract the contents of an EXE file using Unzip in Linux?
[05:32] <SnowKitty> err 3.0.10
[05:33] <mohammed> i got this really cool theme color for controls you guys should really try it, it's #DCE4F3
[05:33] <Anacranom> SnowKitty, do you have compiz enabled?
[05:33] <SnowKitty> compiz?
[05:33] <SnowKitty> what's that? >.>
[05:33] <rikki_max> zethero1: u can use wine + mono to run the app
[05:33] <sagaci> SnowKitty: compiz effects
[05:33] <SnowKitty> how do i check?
[05:33] <dsl579> ok im in /mnt/sda1 and i want to get rid of the entire contents of the flash drive whats a nice command to use?
[05:33] <eseven73> !wine | zethero1
[05:33] <Daystar> where is the usb version of ubuntu?
[05:33] <zethero1> ﻿rikki_max: no I need to get the .INF and .SYS files out of the EXE
[05:33] <Myrtti> !usb | Daystar
[05:34] <rikki_max> zethero1: oh kk
[05:34] <eseven73> zethero1, nevermind that !wine then
[05:34] <Daystar> thanks
[05:34] <genii> dsl579: The problem is if we give you the exact command it's a dangerous one to say in open channel
[05:34] <SnowKitty> sagaci: how can i check if i have compiz enabled?
[05:34] <dsl579> true cant you just msg me?
[05:34] <Anacranom> SnowKitty, System > Preferences>appearance
[05:35] <dsl579> does it have anything to do with a '*'?
[05:35] <sagaci> SnowKitty: hold a tick, i'm doing something
[05:35] <SnowKitty> aha!
[05:35] <genii> dsl579: You are getting the idea, yes.
[05:35] <SnowKitty> i found it
[05:35] <SnowKitty> turning off effects fixed it
[05:35] <dsl579> thxs
[05:35] <bc> dsl579: check `man rm`
[05:36] <maek> can ubuntu be installed over the network with an answer file like kickstart?
[05:37] <darlek> dsk579, even safer run nautilus the gnome file manager and just delete files with the GUI, less chance of (serious) mistakes
[05:37] <mohammed> so, has anyone Ben playing around with google Chromium Web Browser for Linux
[05:37] <KDewhirst> darlek: Where's the fun in that?
[05:37] <alex_dinamo> I just installed flash plugin on fresh 9.04 and Firefox segfaults every time... any ideas?
[05:37] <SnowKitty> aww man
[05:37] <SnowKitty> i cant switch workspaces with the mousewheel if i disable effects
[05:38] <SmithKurosaki> SnowKitty: ctrl + alt + (number or direction arrow_
[05:38] <Anacranom> SnowKitty, but does that fix the firefox?//
[05:39] <darlek_> geez, freenode keeps disconnecting/reconnecting... anyone else?
[05:39] <romme> is there any hope that i will be able to hide the evolution window instead of closing it?
[05:39] <bc> darlek_: no
[05:39] <Anacranom> SnowKitty, may have to close and re-start the firefox
[05:39] <relentless> Does anyone know how to put games on to an IPOD using ANY program? There isnt much about it on the forums.
[05:40] <bc> relentless: my guess is it'll have to be jailbroken and ssh/scp to it.
[05:40] <relentless> :|
[05:40] <relentless> Bc, That made not sense,.
[05:40] <bc> relentless: sorry :(
[05:40] <alex_dinamo> is anyone experiencing segment faults on Firefox?
[05:40] <Decessus> is there any way to make the mount command not require super user?
[05:41] <SnowKitty> Anacranom: yeah, turning off compiz fixes it
[05:41] <relentless> Decessus: No
[05:41] <relentless> Decessus: |Use Sudo
[05:41] <Decessus> -_-
[05:41] <genii> Decessus: Yes, make an sudoers file entry for it.
[05:41] <bc> Decessus: man sudoers
[05:41] <SnowKitty> i dont understand why it turns off being able to switch workspaces with the mousewheel though :/
[05:41] <Decessus> ty
[05:41] <genii> bc: Exactly
[05:41] <Anacranom> SnowKitty, let me guess, u have ATI graphix?
[05:41] <SnowKitty> yes
[05:41] <KDewhirst> Decessus: you could put your mount in /etc/fstab if you always want it mounted on startup
[05:42] <relentless> Why would you want mount in the sudoers :/
[05:42] <SmithKurosaki> SnowKitty: its not on by default, only getting compiz will keep it
[05:42] <SnowKitty> radeon 9800 iirc
[05:42] <bc> SnowKitty: use the command line tool ccsm to enable specific parts of compiz
[05:42] <SnowKitty> or was it 9600...
[05:42] <genii> relentless: You don't. You want to add the mount command in sudoers to a list which username is allowed to run without needing password.
[05:42] <Decessus> KDewhirst, its a thumb drive, I don't want it to constantly be mounted, only when I insert it, and I want it to stay unmounted when I unmount it.
[05:42] <bc> SnowKitty: if you don't have it, the package name is simple-ccsm
[05:43] <Anacranom> SnowKitty, ATI does not support compiz as of yet, they say that by june they will......
[05:43] <genii> relentless: man sudoers is very interesting and informative reading for things such as this
[05:43] <SnowKitty> >.<
[05:43] <SnowKitty> aww man
[05:43] <relentless> genii: I am p familiar with linux... Sudo works fine for me
[05:43] <SnowKitty> it works but its kinda buggy in firefox
[05:43] <KDewhirst> Decessus: there's a way to make it so that your user has the right to do that, but i don't remember what it is
[05:43] <KDewhirst> bc: xwininfo didn't have what i was looking for
[05:44] <relentless> I just dont know how to use the NEW FAGLLED ipod with linux..
[05:44] <bc> KDewhirst: :(
[05:44] <SmithKurosaki> Anacranom: im on an nvidia that doesnt even let me fire up the compiz settings in f9, but it works no problem in u8.04
[05:44] <relentless> eff this I am just going to wine itunes..
[05:44] <Anacranom> SnowKitty, i work with their devs, in linux, they promise to have support by june'
[05:44] <eseven73> !ohmy | relentless
[05:44] <FlashGordon2000_> I cant burn a dvd in brasero, I have everything set up, however it will not let me click the burn button, ubuntu 8.10
[05:44] <KDewhirst> relentless: you might be able to do it with amarok
[05:45] <SnowKitty> okay, i just sudo lspci'd it, i do have a 9600
[05:45] <relentless> wat
[05:45] <relentless> I didnt cuss....
[05:45] <KDewhirst> relentless: I'm a kde guy, so I don't know if there's a gtk tool to do it
[05:45] <darlek> lol
[05:45] <Anacranom> SmithKurosaki, i have all nvidia here, and have no issues??
[05:45] <relentless> KDewhirst: I can use KDE tools, I have both installed... I just want to know how to use it.
[05:45] <SmithKurosaki> odd
[05:45] <eseven73> relentless, 'eff this' is a swear, even if masked or abbreviated.
[05:45] <SmithKurosaki> what card do you have thoguh?
[05:46] <KDewhirst> relentless: I don't know how to do it; I've never owned an iPod
[05:46] <tiyowan_> 08:45    -full: <text> must match to full words
[05:46] <tiyowan_> 08:45    -nick: Hilight only the nick, not the whole line (default)
[05:46] <tiyowan_> 08:45    -full: <text> must match to full words
[05:46] <tiyowan_> 08:45    -nick: Hilight only the nick, not the whole line (default)
[05:46] <tiyowan_> 08:45    -full: <text> must match to full words
[05:46] <FloodBot2> tiyowan_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:46] <tiyowan_> 08:45    -nick: Hilight only the nick, not the whole line (default)
[05:46] <relentless> eseven73: pfft, they say the f word in PG13 movies...
[05:46] <eseven73> relentless, it doesn't matter. Dont do it here please.
[05:46] <relentless> nice botnet yo
[05:46] <tiyowan_> *sigh* rxvt. Sorry folks.
[05:47] <Anacranom> SmithKurosaki, i have from a 5200 to a 9800, did u use the restricted from the ubuntu or install manually?
[05:47] <eseven73> hehe tiyowan_ I had to stop using irssi because of accidental pastes like that
[05:47] <SnowKitty> i use xchat :o
[05:47] <eseven73> me too
[05:47] <lstarnes> eseven73: I've never had that problem with irssi
[05:48] <relentless> eseven73: lrn2screen
[05:48] <Anacranom> SmithKurosaki, 5200-9800 qnd all between, i have 8 boxes here
[05:48] <darlek> chatzilla firefox plug-in
[05:48] <SmithKurosaki> Anacranom: wow, thats a lot
[05:48] <KDewhirst> SmithKurosaki: How else do you keep your room warm?
[05:48] <tiyowan> eseven73: Yeah, I already got banned once today. My script pinged the entire channel. :/
[05:48] <eseven73> I seen that
[05:48] <Myrtti> eseven73: you've got weirdly configured terminal then...
[05:48]  * zenxr laughs.
[05:49] <SmithKurosaki> im on a 6100, u8.04 i installed res extras, im pretty sure i did the same through livna in f9, but that was about a year ago that i installed it.
[05:49] <SmithKurosaki> i keep my room warm with bf +/- blankets
[05:49] <Anacranom> SmithKurosaki, just do NOT use envy
[05:49] <KDewhirst> Anacranom: what's the matter with envy?
[05:49] <tiyowan> eseven73: It's just that I'm on windows atm, and I can't stand it without cygwin. :)
[05:50] <Myrtti> !envy
[05:50]  * bc notices amazon thinks he likes wolf t-shirts now
[05:50] <SmithKurosaki> ty myphnix
[05:50] <SmithKurosaki> *myritti
[05:50] <Myrtti> fail ;-)
[05:50] <SmithKurosaki> that was weird
[05:50] <KDewhirst> I've used it before with no problems. Why is it not supported?
[05:50] <Sarah_> Hi. I'm having some trouble with the network connections configuration since I upgraded to jaunty. In particular with wireless connections.
[05:50] <Anacranom> your choice--
[05:51] <Rexy> hola gente
[05:51] <KDewhirst> Anacranom: I don't want to argue; I just want to understand
[05:52] <SmithKurosaki> anyways, the drivers that came with the kernel work, and i have been trying really hard to get the driver i dl'ed from nvidia to install, but its being stupidly picky about some of my install dirs
[05:52] <FlashGordon2000_> I cant burn a dvd in brasero, I have everything set up, however it will not let me click the burn button, ubuntu 8.10
[05:52] <Rexy> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:52] <SmithKurosaki> also Rexy, where are you from/
[05:52] <darlek> sarah, yeah I went back to madwifi instead of ath5k which comes with jaunty.  ath5k ran my wifi okay but wasn't stable.  since madwifi then no issues
[05:52] <Anacranom> when i first joined here if you even mentioned envy it was almost a banning offense, and i now see why, i tried to uninstall it, remove it,,, and now, i dont need it at all
[05:52] <SrCoyote> buenas noches a todos ^
[05:52] <SrCoyote> ^
[05:52] <Rexy> im from argentne speak spansh?
[05:52] <eseven73> Rexy, one 'a' in 'hola' would have sufficed.
[05:53] <Rexy> estoy usando crunhabang
[05:53] <Anacranom> when i first joined here if you even mentioned envy it was almost a banning offense, and i now see why, i tried to uninstall it, remove it,,, and now, i dont need it at all KDewhirst
[05:53] <tiyowan> !es
[05:53] <SmithKurosaki> no, i know someone around here that has the same name, but is from peru
[05:53] <KDewhirst> Anacranom: fair enough. I didn't know it was a big deal
[05:53] <SrCoyote> oki grax por el consejo ^
[05:53] <Rexy> coyote
[05:53] <Rexy> im from argentne speak spansh?'
[05:53] <SrCoyote> rexy me too i am from argentina
[05:54] <SnowKitty> i have a microsoft wireless laser mouse 5000, how can i disable the extra buttons it has?
[05:54] <Rexy> todo bien?
[05:54] <Pici> !es | Rexy
[05:54] <sagaci> how long does it take to compile/build from source
[05:54] <Sarah_> darlek: I'm not talking about the card driver but the network manager.
[05:54] <Rexy> okok
[05:54] <Myrtti> sagaci: depends on your hardware and settings
[05:54] <Rexy> whatis a channel?
[05:54] <tiyowan> sagaci: Depends on what you're compiling.
[05:55] <eseven73> channel means chat room
[05:55] <sagaci> how long would rhythmbox take to compile
[05:55] <toypilot> Hi Sarah, whats wrong with network manager?
[05:55] <toypilot> cannot connect?
[05:55] <ddwolf> !es | ddwolf
[05:55] <nikor> Hi - I'm in my Xubuntu desktop and I do not see "System" in my panel like I do in Gnome - Where do I goto to get to Administrative things ? ?
[05:55] <Myrtti> sagaci: you *REALLY* don't want to compile it
[05:55] <Sarah_> toypilot: It just let me configure the connections, but
[05:55] <sagaci> Myrtti: why not
[05:55] <Sarah_> toypilot: a) I cannot see the wireless available networks
[05:55] <tiyowan> sagaci: Um, why do you want to compile Rhthymbox?
[05:56] <KDewhirst> sagaci: it's a pain. why do you want to compile it?
[05:56] <Myrtti> sagaci: why would you?
[05:56] <sere> whtas the lastest kernel
[05:56] <SmithKurosaki> nikor: its under settings in the menu
[05:56] <toypilot> check that it hasnt enabled firewall by default
[05:56] <sagaci> Myrtti: upgrading from .12.0 to .12.2
[05:56] <Sarah_> toypilot: b) I cannot say "connect to this one", just set the "auto-connect" checkbox
[05:56] <Myrtti> !latest | sagaci
[05:56] <SmithKurosaki> it has a similar, but not the same setup as gnome as far as the settings go
[05:56] <KDewhirst> sagaci: you can change your repo if it's a really big deal
[05:56] <tiyowan> sere: 2.6.29.4
[05:57] <Myrtti> sagaci: what features do you want from the latest version that makes you want to compile it?
[05:57] <Bob_Dole> So, I totally just installed xen on my system..and X broke. in a way that prevents me from getting to a virtual terminal, and running xfix from the recovery mode thing doesn't help.
[05:57] <toypilot> Greyed out?
[05:57] <sagaci> so i've started building this thing, can you give me a rough estimate of time?
[05:57] <toypilot> or just missing
[05:57] <Myrtti> sagaci: no.
[05:57] <sere> tiyowan: how can i get that on hardy
[05:57] <KDewhirst> sagaci: there are too many factors. it'll take longer than you want to wait, though
[05:58] <sagaci> 2 hours?
[05:58] <KDewhirst> sagaci: it could easily be a lot more than that
[05:58] <tiyowan> sere: Um...you want to get the latest kernel on hardy?
[05:58] <darlek> sarah, i used wicd to find wifi connections but it unloads network-manager in order to run.
[05:58] <Bob_Dole> I should probably get to backing stuff up and then just flat out format and reinstall.
[05:58] <sere> tiyowan: should i not?
[05:58] <Myrtti> sagaci: why do you want the newer version?
[05:58] <sagaci> can i abort the build without screwing things up
[05:58] <sagaci> test it out
[05:58] <Sarah_> darlek: Already tried wicd but I cannot run it
[05:58] <KDewhirst> Bob_Dole: why don't you just pick a vanilla linux kernel from grub?
[05:59] <darlek> oh...odd
[05:59] <Bob_Dole> KDewhirst: I did
[05:59] <tiyowan> sere: It's better if you just let it update to newer kernels by itself.
[05:59] <KDewhirst> Bob_Dole: then you can just apt-get remove xen
[05:59] <Affliction> Hey guys, I'm having a problem that I hope someone could help me out with. I went to change my default shell using CLI from bourne to bash by using the following command "sudo usermod -s /bin/bash username". I logged out and upon logging back into my account I received a permission denied error. Is there something that I have done wrong? I'm using Ubuntu Desktop 9.04. Thanks in advance.
[06:00] <Bob_Dole> KDewhirst: I did...I have no idea what broke, but something did. I've gone so far as to make a new install over the old one, once fg..whatever the ati drive is was installed, x quit working again.
[06:00] <sagaci> Myrtti: can i abort it?
[06:00] <sere> tiyowan: 6.24-23 is whats its telling me to upgrade too...sound right
[06:00] <KDewhirst> Bob_Dole: what a mess. I don't know how to help you
[06:00] <Sarah_> To be clear: I can configure the network connections from /etc/network/interfaces, I can see the networks with iwlist. I just cannot configure & choose the connections from the network manager
[06:00] <Sarah_> or the icon in the desktop toolbar
[06:01] <KDewhirst> sagaci: you can kill the compile if you want
[06:01] <Sarah_> (there I see no configured connections)
[06:01] <sagaci> it's finished, only took 10 minutes
[06:01] <sagaci> roughly
[06:01] <toypilot> need to run as root?
[06:01] <KDewhirst> sagaci: you're not doing something crazy like compiling into /bin/, are you?
[06:01] <Bob_Dole> KDewhirst: Yeah, I figured it'd be a confusing mess, so backing up, then a fresh format and reinstall is my best option, and I'll make a backup with acronis when I get home later @.@
[06:01] <Myrtti> sagaci: sure
[06:01] <KDewhirst> Bob_Dole: good luck
[06:01] <tiyowan> sere: Sounds about right - synaptic'll auto-update the kernel for you. You won't be using the latest kernel, but that's because of stability issues.
[06:01] <Bob_Dole> I'm supposed to wake up in 5 hours.
[06:01] <Sarah_> toypilot: No, I get a python error
[06:02] <sere> tiyowan: sounds good to me ty :)
[06:02] <KDewhirst> bc: xprop didn't have the window flag i'm looking for either
[06:02] <tiyowan> sere: You're welcome.
[06:03] <tiyowan> Sarah_: What do you see when you type ifconfig?
[06:04] <Sarah_> tiyowan: I'm connected through this interface, if you can read me the connection is fine. The network manager is the problem.
[06:04] <sagaci> seems to all have gone fine, i was worried for a minute
[06:04] <von> I have ubuntu 9.04 used kernel check to compile latest stable kernel 2.6.29.4 and wifi stopped working
[06:05] <von> I have realtek wifi
[06:05] <darlek> Sarah, have you uninstalled the network-manager-gnome from aptitude?
[06:05] <toypilot> network manager was giving odd errors when I upgraded, and it was just the firewall blocking ports that enabled during the upgrade
[06:05] <von> I have not
[06:05]  * x^code^x permisi mo isi perut bang...
[06:05] <darlek> (Sarah), then reinstall via aptitude and if there are any conflicts it will give you options to correct.  apt-get and synaptic don't do that
[06:05] <Sarah_> darlek: now yes, as it conflicted with wicd. But the problem was there before that.
[06:06] <von> okay
[06:06] <von> I have been using apt get
[06:06] <Pici> !id | x^code^x
[06:06] <von> will try that
[06:06] <darlek> Sarah_:  ic, can you pastebinit the python error from wicd?
[06:07] <Sarah_> toypilot: I don't get network manager errors, just not enought options
[06:08] <Bob_Dole> Note: never mention How good something is performing when it usually performs like crap, it will start to perform like crap again. *local network speeds*
[06:12] <Sarah_> darlek: Is that really important? Already uninstalled it :-/
[06:12] <x^code^x> hi sarah
[06:12] <darlek> Sarah, no that's okay
[06:12] <darlek> it conflicts with nm anyway
[06:12] <von> apitude has a really neet and detailed interface
[06:12] <Isak2> Speech fully disabled.
[06:12] <[T]ank> so every computer in the network can resolve dns names except for my ubuntu machine. I can ping googles ip address... but not the name. I have the nameserver set to the routers ip which is how the rest of the computers are set up. What else do I need to look at?
[06:12] <darlek> Sarah :: ps aux | grep -i network-manager-gnome (or without gnome), kill it, then rerun it from the command line.  If there are any errors it would then show up in the terminal
[06:12] <Isak2> Speech fully enabled.
[06:12] <rikki_max> anyone know how to dual moniter nvidia geforce 6800 XT and nvidia TNT2 model 64/model 64 pro on ubuntu 8.10?
[06:12] <MikeTheC> Hey all...
[06:12] <darlek> Sarah; then pastebinit the terminal errors
[06:12] <von> what irc client do you like the most
[06:12] <Myrtti> !best | von
[06:12]  * x^code^x off setengah jam..mo makan dl bos..
[06:12] <von> thanks
[06:12] <parker-fcnyu> can anybody help me through some network issues?  when i try to connect wireless, i get plenty of signal and i SHOULD be connecting, but it doesn't work anywhere.  i checked my dns settings, they're all fine i think.  when i /etc/init.d/networking restart, it sometimes says "Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0".  any ideas?
[06:12] <Myrtti> parker-fcnyu: are you in Gnome/KDE/xfce?
[06:12] <parker-fcnyu> also: this is new.  for a long time everything was working completely fine
[06:12] <SmithKurosaki> parker-fcnyu: is your radio off
[06:12] <parker-fcnyu> Myrtti, Gnome
[06:12] <parker-fcnyu> SmithKurosaki, i don't believe so!
[06:12] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[06:12] <kenapa> jhgjj
[06:12] <Myrtti> parker-fcnyu: instead fo /etc/init/networking, try restarting NetworkManager
[06:13] <Sarah_> darlek: I have to restart to get the nm working again. And... it's quite late here. So I'm probably coming back tomorrow. Many thanks for your help.
[06:13] <parker-fcnyu> Myrtti, what's the best way to do that?  just killing the process and restarting it?
[06:13] <Myrtti> parker-fcnyu: sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart
[06:13] <parker-fcnyu> oh, that's easy enough.
[06:14] <brunner> I love that Xorg is eating half my CPU for no apparent reason
[06:14] <parker-fcnyu> at the same time as this problem started (inexplicably) i also started getting system hangs, wherein the caps-lock led flashed, and even the magic sysrq keys wouldn't fix it.  think that might be related?
[06:15] <Myrtti> parker-fcnyu: if that doesn't help, then would you pastebin what your "sudo lshw -c network" outputs
[06:15] <Myrtti> parker-fcnyu: could be
[06:15] <Myrtti> parker-fcnyu: (I trust you can use pastebin)
[06:15] <parker-fcnyu> ok, Myrtti , i'm going to try that.  i'll be back in this room in a few!
[06:15] <parker-fcnyu> Myrtti, you betca.
[06:15] <parker-fcnyu> er, betcha
[06:15] <SmithKurosaki> parker-fcnyu: ive just had the same issue before
[06:15] <parker-fcnyu> SmithKurosaki, Oh?  how did you resolve it?
[06:15] <relentless> does anyone know how to ipod+linxu?
[06:15] <relentless> *linux
[06:15] <brunner> is there any way to figure out why that's happening?
[06:15] <kindofabuzz> having problems with Jockey. It just scans for available drivers forever and then does nothing
[06:15] <Anacranom> Myrtti, shouldnt that be    "sudo lshw -C network"
[06:16] <rikki_max> relentless: u can use sync ur music with rhythmbox
[06:16] <SmithKurosaki> it was a while ago, but it was weird because my radio was off, and was still picking up some of the signals, but it wasnt consistant enough
[06:16] <relentless> rikki_max: I mean put the linux OS on an Ipod
[06:16] <Myrtti> Anacranom: works either way in my jaunty
[06:16] <rikki_max> oh yeah it can be done
[06:16] <relentless> I dont know how
[06:16] <relentless> Maybe in PM you can show me?
[06:16] <rikki_max> just use ur ipod as a usb drive
[06:16] <relentless> ipodlinux.org is down
[06:17] <rikki_max> well idk my self but i am sure there is a great tut on how to
[06:17] <Anacranom> Myrtti, the --help shows the diff...
[06:17] <rikki_max> but i belive the easiest way would be to take out ur hdd
[06:17] <parker-fcnyu> Myrtti, restarting NetworkManager didn't seem to work.  i'll pastebin the command, but is it -c or -C?
[06:17] <rikki_max> and install the os
[06:18] <AlexKpow> Hello
[06:18] <Myrtti> parker-fcnyu: try -C
[06:18] <kenapa> kendari
[06:18] <darlek> !ja | darlek
[06:18] <kindofabuzz> having problems with Jockey. It just scans for available drivers forever and then does nothing
[06:18] <WIGGMPk> In File Management Preferences on the Media tab, selecting different type of blank disc's does not allow me to select and application to handle it "No applications found" is greyed out. Its also the same way for Photos and Software.
[06:18] <kenapa> ..,.
[06:18] <Myrtti> Anacranom: output doesn't look any different...
[06:19] <kenapa> hallo
[06:19] <parker-fcnyu> Myrtti, this is -C: http://pastebin.com/d766148f2
[06:19] <twity> hay,,,,,
[06:19] <AlexKpow> Does anyone know anything about why event sounds won't play?
[06:21] <AlexKpow> :(
[06:21] <darlek> AlexKpow: try setting alsa or other drivers in system prefs sound and see if it changes
[06:21] <darlek> !sound
[06:21] <sillycat98> Could anyone tell me how to fix flickering videos in ubuntu 9.04? I upgraded from 8.10 using the alternate cd.
[06:22] <sillycat98> I also can't get RuneScape HD to work now, but it did before.
[06:22] <kindofabuzz> ok got jockey working, now it says it's downloading and installing driver but been on %0 for 5 minutes now
[06:22] <AlexKpow> Question, is the Sound capture: test supposed to make the beeping noise?
[06:23] <sillycat98> Does anyone know how I can fix flickering videos in ubuntu 9.04? I've noticed that almost all videos flicker black lines when playing.
[06:24] <intx> what's ubuntu's default root password?
[06:24] <sillycat98> I've heard from a few people that it's an OpenGL problem.
[06:24] <lstarnes> intx: there isn't one
[06:24] <lstarnes> intx: root is locked by default
[06:24] <intx> lstarnes: /etc/shadow seems to indicate there is one
[06:24] <AlexKpow> Yeah, changing to ASLA doesn't do anything, I still don't hear event sounds. It used to make my internal speaker beep until I removed the driver with a tutorial I found online
[06:24] <tiyowan> sillycat98: Maybe try turning Compiz off?
[06:24] <sillycat98> You can enable root under login window i think.
[06:24] <lstarnes> intx: I think that's an invalid hash
[06:24] <Pici> intx: The 'hash' in /etc/shadow for root is invalid
[06:24] <intx> ah, so it's random. good to know.
[06:25] <Myrtti> parker-fcnyu: looks like it should work, weird.
[06:25] <intx> or invalid rather :P
[06:25] <intx> thanks
[06:25] <Pici> intx: Actually, its made up of characters that could never be present in a real hash
[06:25] <parker-fcnyu> Myrtti, I agree!  everything seems like it's working except... it's not!
[06:25] <intx> is it the same in every install? or is it generated randomly?
[06:25] <darlek> AlexKpow: only if a sound has already been assigned.  If it's blank then no sound can play as there is no association.  Click the "Sounds" tab and hit the play buttons beside each sound.  Try the defaults
[06:26] <parker-fcnyu> Myrtti, or anybody else, i suppose: going forward, what can i do about this?  can i pay for support somewhere?
[06:26] <AlexKpow> darlek: pressing the play button does work
[06:26] <parker-fcnyu> (i may just reinstall, but i'd like to avoid doing that until october if possible.
[06:26] <parker-fcnyu> )
[06:26] <Myrtti> parker-fcnyu: have you asked on the forums yet?
[06:27] <orbit_> hi
[06:27] <parker-fcnyu> no, not yet.
[06:27] <Myrtti> parker-fcnyu: try that then, you might find some help there, and the thread is easy to refer to when/if coming back to IRC
[06:27] <orbit_> hi guys can anyone help me pls
[06:27] <sillycat98> Can't seem to get compiz to disable, what's the right command?
[06:27] <Myrtti> !ask | orbit_
[06:28] <orbit_> ok thanks
[06:28] <darlek> AlexKpow: ok, so you hear the basic stuff then... I tried a few myself and not all are on, just alerts and logins
[06:28] <parker-fcnyu> alright, Myrtti .  I've avoided doing that thus far because of the effort compiling everything, but i suppose i should do that...
[06:28] <Myrtti> parker-fcnyu: the odds are you don't have to recompile a thing
[06:29] <orbit_> im using acer 6935G but after installing ubuntu my sound card is not working anyone know how to solve ?
[06:29] <AlexKpow> darlek: I used to get an internal beep from pressing backspace too many times, does that have an alert sound associated with it?
[06:29] <tiyowan> help /sb
[06:29] <parker-fcnyu> Myrtti, alright, I'm going to put a thread together right now.  Thanks for the help!
[06:30] <orbit_> im using acer 6935G but after installing ubuntu my sound card is not working anyone know how to solve ? or is able to guide me where else can i find help
[06:30] <darlek> AlexKpow: don't know about that
[06:30] <darlek> might be in a theme package
[06:31] <AlexKpow> darlek: Oh well, I'll live without them
[06:31] <darlek> kk
[06:31] <darlek> me too ;)
[06:32] <AlexKpow> I've got another question, when I boot from GRUB, it sits at the "Starting up..." screen for like 25 seconds
[06:32] <AlexKpow> It doesn't do that when I boot to Windows, though
[06:32] <sillycat98> Disabling compiz seems to have worked. Thank you tiyowan, do you think that reinstalling compiz through apt-get would help?
[06:32] <orbit_> i got a question i'm using acer 6935G but after installing ubuntu my sound card is not working anyone know how to solve ? or is able to guide me where else can i find help
[06:32] <sillycat98> I can't help it, I like the atlantis plugin and I do not wish to abandon it.
[06:33] <darlek> AlexKpow: that's true.  in 8.10 the login sound was on time with the login window, but in Jaunty it lags or sometimes doesn't play
[06:33] <dsdeiz> how to change gdm using the terminal? :S
[06:34] <tiyowan> sillycat98: I'm highly doubtful that doing that will fix the problem. Best thing is to switch off compiz for when you need to watch video, and then switch back otherwise.
[06:34] <alex_> there is a nice program for that called compiz-switch
[06:34] <AlexKpow> darlek: the login sounds seems to work fine
[06:35] <alex_> you can put it on your desktop or your quick launch and just click it to turn compiz on or off
[06:35] <sillycat98> I'll look into it then, thank you for all the help tiyowan and alex
[06:35] <tiyowan> sillycat98: I'd install the app alex_ mentioned, to make it convenient.
[06:35] <tiyowan> sillycat98: Glad to be of help.
[06:35] <alex_> sillycat98: It is no longer in Synaptic as far as I know, but I know you can google it
[06:35] <sillycat98> Is that app available through the add programs menu alex?
[06:36] <dsdeiz> anyone? :D
[06:36] <alex_> sillycat98: you can download a .deb and it will install the package for you
[06:36] <darlek> AlexKpow: I'm guessing themes has more information about locations and settings.  Although you're not doing themes, those links might have more data for you
[06:36] <darlek> !themes
[06:36] <mattks> Installed all the gstreamer plugins, but I'm still not getting mp3s playback
[06:37] <alex_> sillycat98: Here is where I got it http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Switch
[06:37] <darlek> AlexKpow: but maybe not, it's just a guess
[06:39] <sillycat98> Installed and working, thank you so much alex and tiyowan
[06:41] <Peddy> How could I list files by date in the terminal?
[06:41] <Gautam> can you please tell me how to install Eclipse IDE on ubuntu Intrepid  8.10
[06:41] <darlek> mattks, how about cli mp3 programs like mpg321 or mplayer, do they play?
[06:41] <Pupuser402> use synaptic
[06:42] <darlek> Peddy: ls -lat the t switch sorts by modification time, might that help?
[06:42] <Peddy> thanks darlek, I'll try that
[06:43] <darlek> also man sort
[06:43] <ottothecow> can anyone help me with a quick sed command?
[06:43] <Gautam> please tell me how to install Eclipse IDE on ubuntu Intrepid  8.10
[06:43] <darlek> peddy ;; you can pipe the output to sort as well
[06:44] <darlek> Peddy :: ls -la | sort -nr  means sort by numeric thus by date, and r for reverse.
[06:44] <alex_> Anyone have any ideas how to get rid of Catalyst Control Center? lol... It's multiple monitor support sucks =(
[06:44] <darlek> Peddy, or maybe that's sort by size.. can't remember
[06:45] <Brandon> i know i did this once or twice but i was able to see files from my windows on my ubunut how do i do it?
[06:45] <Brandon> its /host/ right?
[06:45] <kindofabuzz> i can't get Jockey working. i keep getting Sorry, the Jockey backend crashed. any ideas?
[06:45] <rpaddock> How would you go about changing the gnome-panel font color?
[06:47] <_user_> does any one knows any 2d games with high quality graphics on ubuntu
[06:47] <TeenySHAD0W> Hi.
[06:47] <relentless> _user_: troll
[06:47] <moblin> hi
[06:48] <TeenySHAD0W> I rebooted and my panels are gone.  Can someone tell me how to start that manually?
[06:48] <_user_> relentless, troll is the game ?
[06:48] <darlek> _user_ :: mahjong with tiles.. the tiles are sweet
[06:48] <billybigrigger> _user_::: teeworld is a good fun 2d game
[06:48] <billybigrigger> teeworlds
[06:48] <mattks> thanks darlek trying that now
[06:48] <_user_> did any one played world of goo
[06:48] <SmithKurosaki> TeenySHAD0W: if you are running gnome, type gnome-panel &
[06:49] <_user_> i want womething like world of goo
[06:49] <TeenySHAD0W> SmithKurosaki, thanks.  How do I pull up a shell window?
[06:49] <tiyowan> _user: World of Goo is pretty unique.
[06:49] <TeenySHAD0W> Blah.  Can
[06:49] <tiyowan> _user_: Frozen Bubble is a good one to pass the time. :)
[06:49] <_user_> like space games on dos or windows i want some games with high graphics quality  for ubuntu
[06:50] <TeenySHAD0W> 't even switch windows.
[06:50] <TeenySHAD0W> bbiab - maybe
[06:50] <SmithKurosaki> hit ctrl+alt+f1
[06:50] <_user_> tiyowan, yes its nice but i want another game ?:)
[06:50] <SmithKurosaki> login and type
[06:50] <SmithKurosaki> _user_: install wine and install steam through wine
[06:51] <tiyowan> _user_: www.linuxgames.com
[06:51] <_user_> SmithKurosaki, i prefer ope source games
[06:51] <Amer> is there a way to play WoW on ubuntu 9.05 ?
[06:51] <Pupuser402> 9.04
[06:51] <Amer> yep, lol
[06:51] <_user_> tiyowan, thank you i will see it now
[06:52] <Pici> !wine | Amer
[06:52] <TeenySHAD0W> SmithKurosaki, no joy.
[06:52] <tiyowan> Amer: Wine.
[06:52] <_user_> is there a site that contains all games for linux and cateogrize them into archad puzzle etc...
[06:53]  * x^code^x we back ..!!!
[06:53] <Amer> I thought I heard blizzard came up with an update to disable wine players way before
[06:53] <kindofabuzz> wow i see plenty of Jaunty Jockey bug reports but no fixes. =(
[06:53] <Amer> I'm not sure, it was a long time ago
[06:53] <relentless> Why not just diables jockey uintil fix :/
[06:54] <relentless> *untill
[06:54] <kindofabuzz> relentless, i need to install the b43 drivers
[06:54] <tiyowan> _user_: happypenguin.org. Search on google - you'll find many links.
[06:54] <relentless> kindofabuzz: Im sorry I dont use computers that cost more than my car, You are going to have to tell me what drivers that is for.
[06:54] <relentless> btw my car was 200
[06:55] <kindofabuzz> relentless, lol what?
[06:55] <darlek> nice
[06:55] <TeenySHAD0W> panel launched, something's still wrong with the ui.  can't resize or select windows, window selection in the panel isn't there...
[06:55] <tiyowan> Amer:
[06:55] <TeenySHAD0W> no alt-tab...
[06:55] <kindofabuzz> relentless, it's for broadcom based wireless cards
[06:55] <SmithKurosaki> well, thats all i can really think of
[06:55] <relentless> lolwireless
[06:55] <tiyowan> Amer: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=1922 - WoW using Wine.
[06:56] <relentless> Well, Most drivers that are in Jockey are out on google...
[06:56] <darlek> !wireless
[06:56] <relentless> ^ or there
[06:57] <alex_> I'm having more problems with 9.04 than I did with 8.10 =\ less stuff works lol
[06:57] <sudobash> like what?
[06:57] <alex_> Wireless card, dual monitors and my sound all stopped working with 9.04 lol =\
[06:58] <ProfOak> Does anyone know or use the site jisho.org?
[06:58] <sudobash> where you using ndiswrapper for wifi?
[06:58] <darlek> yes i use jisho
[06:58] <darlek> mochiron
[06:59] <alex_> Um... honestly? I just plugged it in and clicked on my wireless connection before =P
[06:59] <ProfOak> you know how you can see kanji details? Well in Windows it has two font faces, and in linux the first font face goes away. I'm just wondering how to get it back.
[07:00] <darlek> ProfOak:  can you give me an example to look up?  I've only used Linux with jisho, so I'm lacking the comparison
[07:00] <Amer> 22:55 < tiyowan> Amer: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=1922 - WoW using Wine.
[07:00] <Amer> 22:55 < tiyowan> Amer: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=1922 - WoW using Wine.
[07:00] <Amer> sorry..
[07:00] <darlek> ProfOak: are you saying you can't see the text or that only the font is different?
[07:00] <tiyowan> Amer: :)
[07:01] <Amer> why isn't the "/msg" working for me ?
[07:01] <ProfOak> I can see the kanji text, I just want to have the other font because it makes the kanji more clear to me.
[07:01] <Amer> I'm using irssi on windows
[07:02] <Amer> I like the text based clients.. lol
[07:02] <relentless> Amer: You are using windows..
[07:03] <TeenySHAD0W> j #gnome
[07:03] <ProfOak> darlek: if it's not an easy fix, just forget about it. It's merely more convenient to see it in it's other font.
[07:04] <darlek> ProfOak: you might need the font in kanji and then jisho might select it rather than the current one.  but you'd have to know which one.  lots to choose from!!
[07:05] <crono5788> Hello, I am having trouble figuring out which volume dial I need to use to get my audio input to... record again. It was working fine, then I pressed a bunch of buttons in the Volume Control applet and broke it and now I am very confused
[07:05] <darlek> ProfOak: it's probably just defaulting to whatever is available
[07:05] <TeenySHAD0W> okay.  gnome simply isn't starting up right.
[07:05] <sudobash> amer try /query
[07:06] <ProfOak> darlek: Good idea, I'll check the HTML doc for fontface names
[07:06] <bluewook> how do i access an NAS externally in ubuntu?
[07:07] <darlek> ProfOak: let me know if it works!  I'd be interested to see the difference
[07:07] <indus> hi
[07:08] <iivv> help! i would ask my question in #kubuntu but i can't because i'm on a proxy irc
[07:08] <soa> alguna de ZARAGOZA?
[07:09] <iivv> i need to switch to the kwin window manager, but how?
[07:09] <iivv> i'm in compiz, but it crashed
[07:09] <iivv> is there a way through system settings to switch from compiz back to kwin?
[07:09] <songer> hello
[07:09] <songer> I'm new here
[07:10] <toypilot> I tried to install kubuntu once... left that system back in a graveyard after that. :p
[07:10] <songer> I'm Tring to instal limewire
[07:11] <songer>  but my Installaytion ain't progress
[07:11] <sudobash> bluewook what kind of platform is the NAS on?
[07:12] <bluewook> sudobash: as far as ftp/smb or whatever is concerned or
[07:12] <Severian> Howdy.  Are there any Ubuntu One users out there who would send me an invite?
[07:12] <sudobash> yes
[07:12] <bluewook> it has both
[07:12] <sudobash> sudo apt-get install smbfs
[07:12] <sydneyguy> Hail all
[07:12] <sudobash> sudo apt-get install samba
[07:13] <sudobash> if you want to be able to share yourself
[07:13] <bluewook> sudobash: yeah i want to be able to like go around to the coffee shop and still access what is on my NAS
[07:13] <sudobash> Goto Places->Network or Connect to Server if you have IO
[07:13] <sudobash> IP
[07:13] <sudobash> oh
[07:13] <bluewook> i can access it perfectly fine
[07:13] <bluewook> at my LAN
[07:13] <songer> what can I do? if my installation can't progress
[07:13] <sudobash> you would have to use some type of ftp or tunnel
[07:13] <sudobash> vpn maybe?
[07:14] <bluewook> oh really
[07:14] <sudobash> VNC
[07:14] <sudobash> there are a whole bunch of ways
[07:14] <toypilot> VNC over ssh tunnel
[07:14] <toypilot> easiest way
[07:14] <bluewook> how would i go about doing that
[07:14] <toypilot> download putty
[07:14] <client> hello all
[07:14] <client> nick Apekjongoss
[07:15] <toypilot> then connect to your server over port 22
[07:15] <toypilot> have to open up ports in of course
[07:15] <sudobash> VNC byself should suffice but tunnel just makes it secure
[07:15] <Apekjongoss> any malay here in
[07:15] <toypilot> in putty, in your connection you can create a tunnel over ports 5900, 5901
[07:15] <toypilot> then you connect to localhost with vnc client
[07:15] <bluewook> toypilot: i set my ftp port differently would i have to adjust that then
[07:16] <sudobash> if you are already using 22 yes
[07:16] <sup3rs3nior> i am having a hard time configuring proftpd in ubuntu server 9.04
[07:16] <sudobash> or change the ssh port
[07:16] <toypilot> ftp and ssh are different
[07:16] <sudobash> ssh Secure SHell
[07:16] <songer> I need help I'm tring to install limewire but my installation can't progress
[07:16] <sudobash> ftp File Transfer proto
[07:16] <bluewook> gotcha
[07:16] <sudobash> songer did you install wine?
[07:17] <songer> no
[07:17] <sudobash> sudo apt-get install wine
[07:17] <sup3rs3nior> what is a good ftp server package?
[07:17] <toypilot> but ftp not needed
[07:17] <Severian> sup3rs3nior, vsftp
[07:17] <sudobash> then try and run your little limewire app
[07:17] <toypilot> unless you want to lock a user into a certain directory
[07:17] <daglees> I have 4GB of RAM and my ubuntu system is not really fast
[07:17] <toypilot> proftp
[07:17] <tiyowan> Protocol confusion.
[07:17] <sudobash> dagless go to system-> administration-> services
[07:17] <toypilot> but bluewook, I will get you a tutorial
[07:17] <sup3rs3nior> progtp or vsftp.. i cant find vsftp and i already have proftp installed
[07:18] <bluewook> haha great i appreciate that
[07:18] <toypilot> or just google, VNC over SSH tunnel
[07:18] <sudobash> and take off what is not needed like bluetooth if you don't have bluetooth etc...
[07:18] <sudobash> visual assistant
[07:18] <Severian> sup3rs3nior, vsftpd is in the ubuntu repositories.
[07:18] <toypilot> theres loads of VNC servers you can use
[07:18] <bluewook> i'll try google first and come to you if i can't find something useful
[07:18] <sup3rs3nior> can i use apt get to install it?
[07:18] <daglees> sudobash, ok, I'll take a look at that
[07:18] <bluewook> thanks toypilot and sudobash
[07:19] <toypilot> worst part is setting the ports, but you can connect without SSH, but its bad... anyone can snoop your password. The SSH makes sure your connecting over an encrypted session
[07:19] <sudobash> sudo apt-get install vsftpd
[07:19] <mobi-sheep> !limewire | songer
[07:19] <Severian> sup3rs3nior, yes.  Uninstall proftpd first.  Otherwise they will both be trying to use the same ports by default.
[07:19] <songer>  how can instal java?
[07:19] <daglees> Yeah I had already disabled unecessary services
[07:20] <daglees> I run Eclipse. LAMP, Virtual Box though
[07:20] <toypilot> synaptic and search JRE
[07:20] <daglees> Those are heavy apps
[07:20] <toypilot> Jave Runtime environment
[07:20] <sudobash> there is also system->preferences -> Startup Apps
[07:20] <sup3rs3nior> ok i removed proftp and installed vsftp.. now the hard part.. where is the config file?
[07:20] <mobi-sheep> songer: Check limewire site.  Is there a *.deb file you can get it from?
[07:20] <daglees> Startup apps I didn't check
[07:21] <songer> yes I did thta
[07:21] <toypilot> SSH has sftp
[07:21] <tiyowan> daglees: top cmd to monitor your memory usage.
[07:21] <quibbler> songer-> look here: http://www.limewire.com/download/?os=linux
[07:21] <mobi-sheep> !frostwire | songer
[07:21] <sudobash> dagless also make sure the inside of your pc is healthy especially the heatsink and fan
[07:22] <sudobash> http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+vsftpd+config&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[07:22] <sudobash> http://linux.about.com/od/ubusrv_doc/a/ubusg20t03.htm
[07:22] <Severian> sup3rs3nior, /etc/vsftpd.conf
[07:22] <sudobash> vsftpd config
[07:23] <songer> yes I did that open with GDebi package
[07:24] <sup3rs3nior> proftp asked me if i wanted it standalone or not, but vsftp did not.. what is its default?
[07:25] <robtp>  whats the difference in ccsm between horiz vsize and number of desktops?
[07:25] <ziroday> robtp: number of desktops is calculated by doing horizontal*vertical, you don't need to change that slider unless all the desktops you defined are not appering
[07:25] <robtp> ziroday, thanks
[07:26] <ziroday> robtp: also if you're using the cube then you can only have 1 vertical :)
[07:26] <p1oooop1> horray, I got the open source drivers and they work GREAT
[07:26] <robtp> are there prebuilt packages for the grid plugin for compiz?
[07:26] <achilles> hello dears, I have ubuntu Intrepid, I installed ati catalyst contron center, and that ruined my graphics system, I have ATI Inc Radeon X1400 chip. how can I reconfigure the settings ?
[07:27] <ziroday> robtp: yes, that option is in ccsm
[07:27] <robtp> achilles, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:27] <p1oooop1> !reconfigure | achilles
[07:27] <Pici> !x
[07:27] <Titan8990> robtp, that command actually configures everything BUT the video card
[07:27] <p1oooop1> aww, I was close
[07:27] <songer> how can I close package installer?
[07:27] <p1oooop1> !ati
[07:27] <robtp> ziroday, awesome, thanks! i was building it from source for months
[07:28] <Titan8990> robtp, it needs something like -phigh <--- incorrect but similar
[07:28] <robtp> Titan8990, oops, sorry :P
[07:28] <sup3rs3nior> inetd is fine for a small "project" ftp server right?
[07:28] <ziroday> robtp: have fun
[07:28] <songer> i can close it
[07:28] <ziroday> songer: is the window frozen?
[07:28] <songer> yes
[07:28] <p1oooop1> achilles: what do you mean by "reconfigure"
[07:28] <fccf> Titan8990:  -phigh is the correct passing
[07:28] <Titan8990> fccf, sweet, I remembered
[07:28] <songer>  I was tring to instal limewire but de installation Can't progress so
[07:29] <songer>  I closed it
[07:29] <fccf> songer - try using frostwire
[07:29] <dragonlinux> hey all
[07:29] <p1oooop1> achilles: hello, are you there?
[07:29] <fccf> or better yet bittorrent
[07:29] <dragonlinux> im try8ing to compile an eggdrop buts its saying no tcl found
[07:29] <songer> whre is that?
[07:29] <dragonlinux> how do i install tcl that the compiler needs in 9.04?
[07:29] <mobi-sheep> !torrent | songer
[07:30] <p1oooop1> !p2p
[07:30] <fccf> !frostwire | songer
[07:30] <p1oooop1> !bittorrent
[07:30] <robtp> dragonlinux, tcl-dev
[07:30] <dragonlinux> ah ok t
[07:31] <dragonlinux> er thanks
[07:31] <root> 127.0.0.1
[07:31] <ziroday> dragonlinux: there are eggdrop packages in the repo, why are you compiling it from source?
[07:31] <bluewook> toypilot: what do you suggest i use for a VNC client
[07:31] <robtp> dragonlinux: in general, *-dev are the libraries required for building software
[07:31] <sup3rs3nior> Can I change the default directory for vsftp?
[07:32] <songer> But if ain't close the window
[07:32] <p1oooop1> !wee
[07:32] <ziroday> !fishing > p1oooop1
[07:32] <eleite> Anyone know if 9.04 comes with Alsa already?
[07:33] <ziroday> eleite: jaunty comes with alsa preinstalled, yes
[07:33] <mattgyver> Is there anyone available that could assist me with some questions reguarding bash scripting?
[07:33] <p1oooop1> ok, sorry :D
[07:33] <bullgard4> Ubuntu 8.04.2 installed 15 DEB program packages having 'avahi' in their names. Will the deletion of them limit my capabilities to receive multimedia programs from the Internet?
[07:33] <dragonlinux> now it needs the zlib compression libary. is that just apt-get install zlib ?
[07:33] <songer> I can't do anything
[07:33] <p1oooop1> just so fun browsing through his/her brain
[07:33] <ziroday> bullgard4: not from the internet as avahi only finds applications in your LAN
[07:34] <ziroday> dragonlinux: why are you compiling eggdrop from source?
[07:34] <bluewook> toypilot: alternatively since the NAS has FTP couldn't i just use that instead of having to vnc tunnel or
[07:34] <fccf> mattgyver:  There are appx 1300 people logged in to this chat -- ask your question and if someone knows the ansber they will respond to it
[07:34] <ziroday> mattgyver: #bash or here :)
[07:34] <eleite> ziroday: so i just need to configure alsa now? i'm totally new with alsa.
[07:34] <dragonlinux> ziroday, because the default settings are incompatible with the other bots on the network
[07:34] <eleite> ziroday: i'm trying to get my ht omega claro soundcard to work
[07:34] <dragonlinux> i need a nicklen of 32
[07:34] <dragonlinux> default is 9
[07:34] <p1oooop1> !alsa | eleite
[07:34] <ziroday> eleite: alsa should be already configured, unfortunately I have no idea about that sound card sorry
[07:34] <ziroday> dragonlinux: okay, and you can't change that in the .conf file?
[07:35] <bullgard4> ziroday: Ok. Thank you.
[07:35] <darlek> !ask
[07:35] <eleite> p1oooop1: thanks
[07:35] <dragonlinux> ziroday, no. its a flag set before compiling in the source code
[07:35] <mattgyver> when i run; echo ${string:40} it results in a bad substitution error, does anyone know why im receiving this, it appears to be the correct syntax.
[07:35] <dragonlinux> hmm there is no zlib-dev ?
[07:35] <dragonlinux> :(
[07:35] <p1oooop1> eleite: np, :D
[07:35] <sup3rs3nior> Where can I find more in-depth help about setting up a ftp server?
[07:35] <ziroday> dragonlinux: okay, in that case a neat trick is doing sudo apt-get build-dep eggdrop which will install all the dependencies for eggdrop
[07:35] <achilles> p1oooop, sorry, I'm there
[07:36] <p1oooop1> achilles: LOL, NP
[07:36] <dragonlinux> ziroday, oh nice. but it wont actually install the wrong eggdrop right?
[07:36] <achilles> p1oooop, reconfigure the xserver didn't help
[07:36] <p1oooop1> I was watching DVD anyway
[07:36] <fccf> eleite: I would look at the alsa compatibility chart - I am not sure if your card is supported --- google: ALSA compatibility
[07:36] <ziroday> dragonlinux: nope, just the build dependencies as listed for it
[07:36] <achilles> p1oooop, I don't mean anything specific :) I just need my X again :)
[07:36] <p1oooop1> achilles: you having prblems with ati drivers on what version of ubuntu?
[07:36] <Gamarok__> !xorg
[07:37] <songer> it says  only one sofware management too is allowed to run at the same time
[07:37] <robtp> why doesnt deskbar save and highlight the last search term?
[07:37] <Gamarok__> !xforceves
[07:37] <Gamarok__> !xforcevesa
[07:37] <p1oooop1> achilles: I suspect your problem lies with the ATI drives and not the x server
[07:37] <songer> how can i close de window of package installer?
[07:37] <achilles> p1oooop, yeah I think so, do you mean reinstalling the driver ?
[07:38] <fccf> songerL check to see that the update manager isn't running, or apt-get or any other package managment - Gdebi? or aptitude
[07:38] <robtp> songer: click the x - what do you mean?
[07:38] <p1oooop1> achilles: what version of ubuntu are you running on?
[07:38] <songer> it  can't close
[07:38] <achilles> p1oooop, Jaunty
[07:38] <p1oooop1> achilles: I believe the proprietary ATI drivers do not work with jaunty
[07:38] <achilles> p1oooop, hmm ..
[07:39] <p1oooop1> achilles: the last time I tried them, I had the same problem
[07:39] <robtp> p1oooop: they work for me? i think
[07:39] <SkyNetMaster> hi, it seams that ksuspend usbd have hold of my usb port, how do I get it released? I cant access that port now
[07:39] <songer> my installation ain' progress so I closed
[07:39] <p1oooop1> robtp: they work for some people, not me...
[07:39] <fccf> songer: If it wont close go to System>Administrator>System Moniter>  Look in processes for gdebi and end that process
[07:39] <achilles> p1oooop, it was working, tell I installed that stupid ati catalyst control center
[07:40] <p1oooop1> achilles: ahh, I see
[07:40] <darlek> songer: : check it with ps aux | grep -i thepackagemanagername, then kill it ... or run top hit, 'k' and type the process number, then 9,
[07:40] <songer> ok
[07:40] <robtp> achilles: what about aticonfig for rebuildng?
[07:40] <tiyowan> achilles: Is this an X1400 Mobility Radeon?
[07:40] <p1oooop1> achilles: you'd probably wanna go open source for now ;)
[07:40] <achilles> tiyowan, yes exactly
[07:41] <darlek> oh a menu option, thanks fccf, i didn't know that one haha..  cli forever
[07:41] <tiyowan> achilles: Hmm, the proprietary drives don't work with Jaunty? I'm asking because I need to do an upgrade on a laptop with that card. :)
[07:41] <p1oooop1> achilles: meh, proprietary drivers... they're not free to mess around with :D
[07:41] <achilles> p1oooop,  aticonfig says : No Supported adapters detected"
[07:41]  * x^code^x lg upload lagu2 festival rock se-indonesia...metaaaalll
[07:42] <p1oooop1> achilles: then perhaps they "dropped" your GPU
[07:42] <fccf> darlek: I am too lazy to learn everything in bash - and it was faster than opening a terminal and running top
[07:42] <achilles> p1oooop, but how it was working .. I'm wondering
[07:42] <p1oooop1> achilles: I remember there is a guide to uninstalling VIA terminal
[07:42] <SkyNetMaster> any ideas how to brake usb port free?
[07:43] <p1oooop1> achilles: it was probably working on the drivers that were there...
[07:43] <robtp> SkyNetMaster: which port is it?
[07:43] <darlek> fccf ... really? my menus don't work that fast.. easier with tilda to popup a terminal then popout
[07:43] <SkyNetMaster> robtp, it is usb port,
[07:43] <relentless> I just put linux on my Ipod
[07:43] <relentless> :D
[07:43] <SkyNetMaster> robtp, it is busy for some reason and I cant access it
[07:43] <relentless> ipodlinux > Apple Os
[07:43] <p1oooop1> achilles: then, you installed the prop. drivers that killed your x server
[07:44] <eleite> how do i bring up the synaptic package manager?
[07:44] <whatvn> relentless: MacOS !=Linux
[07:44] <relentless> The coolest part is I can watch vids on my 1g ipod nano
[07:44] <eleite> nevermind :)
[07:44] <ziroday> eleite: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager?
[07:44] <relentless> whatvn: fail
[07:44] <p1oooop1> achilles: I recommend booting into recovery mode, using the web-enabled terminal and removing the drivers
[07:44] <robtp> SkyNetMaster: its busy so you cant swuspend?
[07:44] <eleite> ziroday: yep thanks
[07:44] <Titan8990> relentless, unix, yes
[07:44] <fccf> darlek:  I guess I am spoiled - I am using my server via VNC from my laptop and it si still faster than cli
[07:45] <relentless> Titan8990: Its a linux kernel
[07:45] <SkyNetMaster> robtp, I saw that ksuspend had that port, so I killed it, but I m still unable to access it
[07:45] <ziroday> !offtopic | relentless
[07:45] <relentless> w/e
[07:45] <fccf> darlek: 4 gigs of ram and dual processors help
[07:45] <sup3rs3nior> has anyone configured vsftp before?
[07:45] <robtp> also - do people use deskbar and gnome-do complementarily? or do they serve the same function?
[07:45] <p1oooop1> achilles: one way to remove is sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:45] <darlek> fccf...sweet... I'm just happy I've been able to install ubuntu 8 times on this computer... a PIII lappy with 512MB.. doing fine in Jaunty!!
[07:46] <Gamarok__> i prefer alt+f2 than gnome
[07:46] <robtp> Gamarok__: you mean alt+f2 instead of either of thoes?
[07:46] <Gamarok__> *gnome do
[07:46] <fccf> darlekL Been there - still have 2 servers with that config, running for 3 years now
[07:47] <sup3rs3nior> Could someone at least point me to a good vsftp walk-through?
[07:47] <Severian> sup3rs3nior, I don't know of one.  What is the problem?
[07:48] <tiyowan> sup3rs3nior: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/ftp-server-walkthrough-117431/ ?
[07:48] <songer> darlek how can I make this symbol?
[07:48] <songer> I
[07:48] <sup3rs3nior> I cant make much sense of the config file..
[07:48] <Severian> sup3rs3nior, There is very little in it you need to change.
[07:48] <Kartagis> sup3rs3nior, http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/ref-guide/s1-ftp-vsftpd-conf.html too
[07:48] <fccf> songer - shift and the button above enter
[07:48] <darlek> fccf ... cool.  I started with Breezy Badger and haven't looked back.  I'm happy it's the software no the hardware that's the focus.  As long as the MB lasts I guess..
[07:49] <mib_8inabmjf> MB?
[07:49] <darlek> songer, do you mean "pipe"?  It's about the Enter key, shift \
[07:49] <darlek> MB = motherboard
[07:49] <fccf> darlek: those 2 servers have been through 3 hurricanes
[07:49] <Severian> sup3rs3nior, I am starting up my ftp machine and I can go over setting with you.
[07:49] <mib_8inabmjf> ah~..
[07:50] <darlek> fccf.  damn that's very cool.  too bad there are no commercials out there on this stuff :(
[07:50] <sup3rs3nior> ok, the reason i need ftp access to my server is so i can set up notepad++ with it
[07:50] <fccf> darlek: more people know about ubuntu than you would think
[07:51] <robtp> anyone - gnome-do vs deskbar?
[07:51] <p1oooop1> hey, would you guys believe me if I said I was 14 and using ubuntu fluently?
[07:51] <songer> ??
[07:51] <songer> ///
[07:51] <robtp> curious how people use each?
[07:51] <ziroday> robtp: I use gnome-do
[07:51] <sup3rs3nior> i need to: 1. Set up a user, and 2. Set the dir to /var/www
[07:51] <ziroday> p1oooop1: yes
[07:51] <whatvn> p1oooop1: who care? :-p
[07:51] <eleite> anyone have any luck with Hulu using firefox?
[07:51] <p1oooop1> ziroday: LOL
[07:51] <p1oooop1> whatvn: :D
[07:51] <fccf> songer: shift and \
[07:52] <p1oooop1> I have to totally agree
[07:52] <songer> yhat symbol but vertical
[07:52] <fccf> songer shift and \ makes |
[07:52] <Severian> sup3rs3nior, You setup the user like you setup any user on the computer.
[07:53] <sup3rs3nior> really?
[07:53] <p1oooop1> anyone know a good factual editor for ubuntu?
[07:53] <sup3rs3nior> /usr/sbin adduser?
[07:53] <tiyowan> whatvn: Eloquent.
[07:53] <filippo> hello
[07:54] <Severian> sup3rs3nior, Why would an ftp server duplicate the functionality of user management.  That would be odd.
[07:54] <robtp> electro: yeah - have no problems
[07:54] <fccf> !ask | filippo
[07:54] <p1oooop1> sup3rs3nior: no, something else
[07:54] <whatvn> tiyowan:?
[07:54] <filippo> italy mmmm
[07:54] <bullgard4> Whre can I find a comprehensive introduction to ALSA?
[07:55] <p1oooop1> bullgard4: it's kinda implicit subject...
[07:55] <fccf> !alsa | bullgard4
[07:55] <p1oooop1> that works ^^
[07:55] <sup3rs3nior> could i use my regular user to access via ftp?
[07:55] <Severian> sup3rs3nior, Are you doing everything through the command line as an excercise?  Or, do you only have ssh access?   You can setup the user with adduser, sure.  Then, you need to set its home directory to /var/www and the shell to /bin/null
[07:55] <sup3rs3nior> ssh access
[07:56] <p1oooop1> sup3rs3nior: you can always do remote desktop :D
[07:56] <Severian> sup3rs3nior, I don't know what you are asking at the end, there.
[07:56] <sup3rs3nior> no gui lol
[07:56] <fccf> filippo goto #ubuntu-it in italia
[07:56] <sup3rs3nior> ubuntu server
[07:56] <p1oooop1> sup3rs3nior: you can always install GUI and use remote desktop :D
[07:57] <FabParma> I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop Toshiba Satellite Pro M10. Everytyng it's fine a part the reboot. When I reboot Ubuntu, the system still blocked for hours wit black screen. To reeboot Ubuntu I have to press the poer butto for 4 seconds to switch off and then press once to start. Is there some fix about that?
[07:57] <sup3rs3nior> i think a gui would slow it down..
[07:57] <Severian> sup3rs3nior, then, use adduser.  But, I don't know where you set the home directory and shell.
[07:57] <p1oooop1> sup3rs3nior: true
[07:57] <p1oooop1> sup3rs3nior: you can configure it only to start on your command
[07:57] <p1oooop1> sup3rs3nior: :D
[07:57] <sup3rs3nior> so vsftp does not manage users and home directories for ftp access only?
[07:57] <Severian> sup3rs3nior, Whether to have a gui or not is your decision.  I like to setup a lightweight one like openbox on servers.
[07:58] <p1oooop1> sup3rs3nior: just trying to help :D
[07:59] <sup3rs3nior> for example, if i installed filezilla server on a windows machine, i use filezilla to set up users.. in vsftp, i go about this in a different way?
[07:59] <Severian> sup3rs3nior, vsftpd lets you configure user access in two ways.  You can decide whether to allow anonymous access and where that will be.  And you decide whether users can login to ftp.  For each class of user you decice whether they have read only access or read/write.  It is quite flexible.
[07:59] <fccf> Sevenan: I use a full ubuntu gnome gui over VNC on my server - which has a head on it as well - works really well
[08:00] <sup3rs3nior> this is all done through the config file, correct?
[08:00] <pooky> Hello again, I have a short and to be honest stupid question,...yet again..I have this digital camera ( the Canon G9) And Well When I connect it to the laptop it doesn't work! the laptop doesn't want to recognize it! but when I use my cybershot (sony) it recognizes it!
[08:00] <Severian> sup3rs3nior, It sounds like filezilla is sloppy.  I doubt their user security is as strong as that built into Linux.
[08:01] <Severian> sup3rs3nior, most aspects are configured through the vsftpd.conf file.  User setup is done in the OS.
[08:01] <tiyowan> pooky: Your question isn't stupid - perhaps the Canon G9 isn't supported?
[08:01] <protivv> anyone know what package works well to play videos online like youtube?
[08:01] <fccf> pooky: that is a little wierd - But I would reccommend getting a usb card reader - you will be able to read the data of the card
[08:02] <sup3rs3nior> so use the "adduser" command?
[08:02] <Gamarok__> howdy fellas
[08:02] <Severian> fccf, I do that sometimes, too.  It depends on who will be accessing the server, how loaded I expect it to be and how I am feeling that day.  Gnome is not that bad a load for modern CPUs.
[08:02] <pooky> fccf, do you know how much does it cost aprox.?
[08:02] <Gamarok__> !flash
[08:02] <whatvn> sup3rs3nior: read vsftp document
[08:03] <pooky> Tiyowan, do you know a bypass to this?
[08:03] <fccf> pooky: I can get one for like $5US on ebay
[08:03] <sup3rs3nior> the vsftp documentation was of no help
[08:03] <towlie_> im on ubuntu 7.10 (yea i know its old). if update manager it gives me the option to update to 8.04. is there a way to do something to upgrade to the newest version of ubuntu ?
[08:03] <Severian> sup3rs3nior, As I said multiple times before, that is yes.  But, I can't tell you offhand how to set the user shell and home directories for that user.
[08:04] <whatvn> sup3rs3nior: you didn't read carefully
[08:04] <tiyowan> pooky: I'd follow fccf's suggestion - instead of directly connecting the camera to your machine, take out the card and pop it in a reader.
[08:04] <Severian> towlie_, Yes, you upgrade to 8.04, then 8.10, then 9.04
[08:04] <towlie_> damn
[08:04] <towlie_> i cant directly upgrade
[08:04] <towlie_> ?
[08:04] <fccf> towlie: nope
[08:04] <p1oooop1> screensaver went beserk.
[08:04] <p1oooop1> :p
[08:04] <towlie_> ok
[08:04] <myself> how do I increase the max volume in ubuntu, alsamixer and volume control master volume are all maxed
[08:05] <Severian> towlie_, Nope.  You could just install 9.04 and wipe the disk..  Backup what is important before hand and restore it.
[08:05] <fccf> myself: are you using a laptop
[08:05] <pooky> fccf...I'm not  E-bay buyer...I'm very "anti" E-bay even if I've bought some stuff from them, it's just i don't think it's safe..,but anyway Ok I'll look for one.
[08:05] <myself> no im not
[08:05] <owen1> i can't kill firefox with 'pkill firefox' any suggestions?
[08:05] <songer> I can' close GDpackage  I typed ps aux | grep -i thepackagemanagername
[08:05] <towlie_> Severian, the update quits suddenly with no error. wtf ?
[08:05] <whatvn> owen1: sudo killal -9 firefox
[08:05] <songer> and I gat this songer   14163  0.0  0.1   3336   880 pts/2    S+   23:59   0:00 grep -i thepackagemanagername
[08:05] <pooky> owenl, just do in command line firefox exist lol
[08:05] <p1oooop1> myself: what do you mean by increase max volume
[08:05] <myself> its not loud enough
[08:05] <myself> i want to be able to set it louder
[08:06] <pooky> -exit*
[08:06] <Severian> towlie_, I ignore questions with cursing in them.
[08:06] <towlie_> ok...
[08:06] <bluewook> Severian: i have a similar problem that sup3rs3nior had. I have an NAS with ftp/smb running, i have installed ssh, i have dyndns setup for my ip but i need to know how to connect to my NAS through the dyndns address
[08:06] <Gamarok__> guys whats the command for listing the running processec in a term
[08:06] <p1oooop1> myself: you able to adjust the volume?
[08:06] <myself> dude
[08:06] <ziroday> myself: increased PCM volume?
[08:06] <myself> its set to max
[08:06] <sup3rs3nior> whatvn: vsftp documentation says nothing about adding a user..
[08:06] <towlie_> Severian, the update quits suddenly with no error. any idea why ?
[08:06] <myself> its all to max
[08:06] <sup3rs3nior> adding a user is a shell thing..
[08:06] <p1oooop1> myself: did you set to max on the device?
[08:06] <myself> in alsamixer?
[08:06] <Gamarok__> guys whats the command for listing the running processec in a term
[08:06] <fccf> myself: are you using powered speakers
[08:06] <thelaughingmime> can some one help me with a samba share issue? for some reason my windows pc can only connect to the samba server as a guest account i want to set it so it prompts me for a username and pw
[08:06] <owen1> whatvn: thanks
[08:06] <myself> everything is set to max everywhere
[08:06] <myself> im using headphones
[08:06] <chuck_> Gamarok__,  top
[08:07] <myself> but ive had it hella loud before its just not loud in ubuntu
[08:07] <p1oooop1> myself: no, the device that is plugged in (ex: speakers headphones)
[08:07] <Gamarok__> oh thanks chuck_
[08:07] <whatvn> sup3rs3nior: user belongs to OS
[08:07] <myself> what about it
[08:07] <sup3rs3nior> now i have a new problem, when i ad a user, it wants to create a dir. when i tell it to use /var/www it says it already exists
[08:07] <myself> yes ofcoutrse
[08:07] <myself> lol
[08:07] <pooky> Oh, another question, It's about my Ipod...Is there anything better than Floola?
[08:07] <myself> what kind of question is that
[08:07] <Severian> bluewook, tell me more about your setup.  The nas box is behind a router, I assume.
[08:07] <fccf> thelaughingmime: you need to have the same u/p on both the win and ubuntu machine
[08:07] <p1oooop1> myself: IDK...
[08:07] <bluewook> Severian: yes
[08:07] <myself> im asking how you increase the max volume IN ubuntu
[08:07] <myself> there has to be a way
[08:07] <p1oooop1> myself: so, did you set to max in music player?
[08:07] <thelaughingmime> fccf thats how its set
[08:07] <myself> yes
[08:08] <whatvn> sup3rs3nior: man adduser
[08:08] <thelaughingmime> i even reinstalled windows to remove all the other user settings
[08:08] <bluewook> Severian: i'm looking to be able to FTP through ssh so i can access it out of network, like from a coffee shop
[08:08] <ziroday> myself: yes, you use the sound volume or alsamixer. If its all at the max then there is nothing more we can do
[08:08] <protivv> how would I go about uninstalling Flash 10?
[08:08] <bullgard4> fccf: Thank you.
[08:08] <p1oooop1> myself: huh... thats kinda odd
[08:08] <myself> why is there nothing you can do
[08:08] <myself> why cant you set it higher, if i can set it higher on windows
[08:08] <myself> whats wrong with ubuntu
[08:08] <fccf> bullgard4: get what you needed"
[08:08] <fccf> ?
[08:08] <ziroday> myself: what sound card?
[08:09] <ziroday> myself: also make sure you are playing the same audio/video file
[08:09] <bullgard4> fccf: No. That is no comprehensive introduction.
[08:09] <Severian> bluewook, The dyndns server is equating a dns name for the world to your ip address on the router.  What is it you want to have connected to the outside world?  Is it the ftp?
[08:09] <myself> i am, well let me see
[08:09] <myself> I have Realtek ALC888
[08:09] <bluewook> Severian: yes i want to be able to access my NAS over FTP from the dyndns
[08:09] <pooky> What programm do you use for Ipodon Xubuntu?
[08:09] <chuck_> bullgard4, try this http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Main_Page
[08:09] <fccf> bullgard4: then why thank me? too much of an intro
[08:10] <sup3rs3nior> whatvn: i read the man page as you suggested, but it says "if the directory does not exist, it will be created" which implies that if it does exist, it would use it..
[08:10] <ziroday> myself: okay, and what does aplay -L show?
[08:10] <protivv> anyone on jaunty and youtube sound is working for them?
[08:10] <bluewook> Severian: and through ssh
[08:10] <sup3rs3nior> but it doesnt want to use it..
[08:10] <Severian> towlie_, I don't know why it would stop.  Sometimes, it is because it ran out of disk space.  I would try the upgrade from the command line.  It should give you better errors.
[08:10] <towlie_> how do i do it from the command line
[08:10] <whatvn> sup3rs3nior: you dont need to create home directory for vsftp user
[08:11] <myself> ziroday: http://pastebin.com/d527c8f7b
[08:11] <songer> I can't close GDebi
[08:11] <fccf> songer: reboot
[08:11] <Severian> bluewook, We'll start with ftp.  Do you want to use the standard ports for ftp?  I'll assume yes for the moment.  You need to go into your router and setup forwarding rules for ports 20 and 21.
[08:11] <sup3rs3nior> i was hoping to be able to access the /var/www folder via ftp.. does it need to be the home dir in order to access it via ftp?
[08:11] <towlie_> Severian,  how do i do it from the command line
[08:11] <p1oooop1> songer: did your try forceing?
[08:12] <ziroday> myself: okay, that card is supported well. Make sure all the sliders are maxed out in alsamixer
[08:12] <myself> everything is maxed out
[08:12] <songer> how Plooooopl?
[08:12] <ziroday> myself: then there is nothing more we can do
[08:12] <myself> hmm wait
[08:12] <myself> no, actually
[08:12] <p1oooop1> songer: keep clicking the X
[08:12] <myself> "front" wasnt maxed out
[08:12] <myself> thank u
[08:12] <p1oooop1> songer: :D
[08:12] <FloodBot3> myself: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:12] <myself> its a little louder now
[08:12] <bluewook> Severian: you assume correctly. i have them forwarded now.
[08:13] <p1oooop1> songer: eventually, a box will pop out asking you to force quit
[08:13] <Severian> towlie_, apt-get something.  I'll look up specifics when I get a break.  Or, try googling for  upgrade version ubuntu command line.  I bet that finds the answer.
[08:13] <whatvn> sup3rs3nior: you can access a website place in /var/www but website admin didn't create a home directory for you
[08:13] <FabParma> I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop Toshiba Satellite Pro M10. Everytyng it's fine a part the reboot. When I reboot Ubuntu, the system still blocked for hours wit black screen. To reeboot Ubuntu I have to press the poer butto for 4 seconds to switch off and then press once to start. Is there some fix about that?
[08:13] <fccf> sup3rs3noir: openssh is an sftp server and can be accessed with filezilla via port 22
[08:13] <sup3rs3nior> i am the admin.. =(
[08:13] <myself> what does "FRONT" mean in alsamixer anyway?
[08:13] <songer> where
[08:13] <fccf> sup3rs3nior: and really easy to setup
[08:13] <myself> Front
[08:13] <whatvn> sup3rs3nior: keep reading
[08:13] <Severian> bluewook, If you want to forward ssh, it is similar.  If you use the standard ports, it is port 22.
[08:13] <p1oooop1> myself: who knows :D
[08:14] <achilles> p1oooop, did it, didn't work also. sorry for late message ;)
[08:14] <p1oooop1> myself: ahh, that probably means the front speakers
[08:14] <sup3rs3nior> whatvn: i think i missed something you said..
[08:14] <achilles> p1oooop, I do in recovery mode
[08:14] <bluewook> Severian: i want to forward my current computer's ip or the NAS ip
[08:14] <myself> but what if im using headphoens, and it still makes it louder,... wierd :)
[08:14] <p1oooop1> achilles: ahh, well that suckx
[08:14] <Severian> bluewook, I don't know what ftp server you are using.  Some are vulnerable to hacking.  vsftpd is pretty safe.  If you are not using a good one, I would not leave those ftp ports open all the time.
[08:15] <p1oooop1> achilles: so, did it uninstall?
[08:15] <achilles> p1oooop, yeah , it did
[08:15] <p1oooop1> achilles: the ATI drivers
[08:15] <whatvn> sup3rs3nior: you can create home directory for vsftp user, ie /var/www/vsftpuser1 for user1
[08:15] <bluewook> Severian: i don't know either haha
[08:15] <towlie_> Severian,  i am having problems find the right answer on upgrading
[08:15] <achilles> p1oooop,  xorg-driver-fglrx yes
[08:15] <sup3rs3nior> what if i want to be able to edit all files in /var/www?
[08:15] <p1oooop1> achilles: hmm, then I guess it really is something with the X server
[08:16] <bluewook> Severian: it's just the server that came with the NAS box
[08:16] <Severian> bluewook, You have to pick one to forward to.  But, each port can be different.  You can forwart port 8124 on the external port of your router to port 22 on your machine and port 8125 to port 22 of the NAS.
[08:16] <bluewook> it's running off the NAS
[08:16] <whatvn> sup3rs3nior: it depends on what permission you give for that user
[08:16] <p1oooop1> achilles: were you able to see anything?
[08:16]  * x^code^x listening Festival Rock Se-Indonesia
[08:17] <Severian> bluewook, Then, I would assume it is pretty hackable.
[08:17] <achilles> p1oooop, black screen, with some colored mess on the top
[08:17] <songer> I typed ps aux | grep -i GDebi To try close it
[08:17] <p1oooop1> achilles: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=630418
[08:17] <whatvn> sup3rs3nior: home directory is just a place for keeping user information, document...etc
[08:17] <myself> L O V E
[08:17] <songer>  and I got this songer   12083  0.1  1.7  23808 13072 ?        S    May31   0:09 gksu --desktop /usr/share/applications/gdebi.desktop --message <big><b>You need to grant administrative rights to install software</b></big>???It is a possible security risk to install packages files manually.?Install software from trustworthy software distributors only.? --always-ask-pass -- gdebi-gtk --non-interactive /tmp/LimeWireLinux.deb
[08:17] <songer> root     12096 65.3  7.4  72744 57340 ?        Rs   May31  71:59 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/gdebi-gtk --non-interactive /tmp/LimeWireLinux.deb
[08:17] <songer> root     12565  0.0  4.6  71948 35584 pts/0    Ss+  May31   0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/gdebi-gtk --non-interactive /tmp/LimeWireLinux.deb
[08:17] <songer> songer   14637  0.0  0.1   3340   884 pts/2    S+   00:16   0:00 grep -i GDebi
[08:17] <p1oooop1> achilles: good thread :D, I used it when I had the drivers
[08:17] <FloodBot3> songer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:17] <songer> songer@songer:~$
[08:18] <sup3rs3nior> ok i tried to connect to my server via filezilla and it said "anonymous only", does that mean im close?
[08:18] <achilles> p1oooop, :) let me see
[08:18] <Severian> towlie_, It should be   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:18] <achilles> p1oooop, what about this http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Jaunty_Installation_Guide
[08:18] <whatvn> sup3rs3nior: you must config vsftp to allow user to connect, what you did?
[08:19] <mattgyver> how can i extract a substring in bash?  echo ${string:4} is returning a bad substitution, any ideas?
[08:19] <fccf> songer: type sudo top - look for gdebi and it's corresponding process # - type k Process# enter 9 enter
[08:19] <towlie_> Severian, its saying 404 file not found for all packages...
[08:19] <bluewook> Severian: so i wouldn't want to do this or what
[08:20] <TeenySHAD0W> okay.  if i manually launch gnome-wm and gnome-panel, all is right with the world; but why aren't they loading themselves, and what normally loads them?
[08:20] <Severian> sup3rs3nior, If you are setting up a user who only gets to do ftp. you set the users home directory to where you want ftp to see.  In your case that was /var/www.  Thenyou set the users default shell to /bin/null.  That makes it so the user cannot login like a normal user.
[08:20] <whatvn> mattgyver: what string you want to extract?
[08:20] <Chaos101> can anyone help me? I need to reset my proxy so that it is set to have no proxy, i tried going through prefs->netowrk proxy and changing it there but it doesnt work
[08:20] <p1oooop1> achilles: seems like a viable source
[08:21] <protivv> anyone on jaunty and have a successful install of nvidia drivers?
[08:21] <protivv> i can find out which gpu drivers to use on jaunty, im afraid ill have to reformat if i mess up ><
[08:21] <p1oooop1> protivv: successful ati somewhere in here
[08:22] <lokixza> I did, unfortunately I had to use the older drivers, 1.77 and 1.80 doesnt seem to be able to be enabled
[08:22] <sup3rs3nior> Severian: ok, now i need to set ftp access to something other than anonymous right?
[08:22] <p1oooop1> achilles: huh, so thats why your x1 didnt work :D
[08:22] <Severian> bluewook, I would not leave a relatively insecure ftp server exposed to the internet all the time.  Leave it set up and just turn on the forwarding rules for a brief time when a friend needs to upload.  Or, use a better ftp daemon on another machine.  Or configure port knocking on your router(not for beginners)
[08:22] <achilles> p1oooop, what ?
[08:22] <Bodsda> Hi, sorry if this is considered offtopic but, my windows installation either bsod's or I get a disk read error from grub when i try to boot it, how can i run a chkdsk on the ntfs drive from ubuntu? is using e2fsck on it safe?
[08:23] <Severian> sup3rs3nior, I can't answer that.  I don't know if you need anonymous ftp or not.
[08:23] <lokixza> Bodsda, that wont work
[08:23] <Bodsda> lokixza: well, any idea what will help?
[08:23] <darlek> how to cut all the leave/joined messages in xchat??  I've been using chatzilla in firefox but thought I'd give this one a try
[08:23] <p1oooop1> achilles: seems they really did drop your version
[08:24] <Severian> towlie_, What version did you say you ran currently.?
[08:24] <sup3rs3nior> well its anonymous right now and that causes an error when i try to connect, i just have no idea what it should be instead of anonymous..
[08:24] <p1oooop1> achilles: eh, prop. drivers... a pain in the &*()
[08:24] <fccf> Bodsda: Use windows recovery environment to restore win bootloader
[08:24] <achilles> p1oooop, lol
[08:24] <songer> ploooopl I wanna close GDebi If I Type ps aux | grep -i GDebi  then  how can kill it?
[08:24] <Bodsda> fccf: I do not wish to restore the win bootloader
[08:24] <Bodsda> songer: killall gdebi?
[08:24] <p1oooop1> songer: you can try restart :D
[08:24] <mobi-sheep> darlek: Right-click on the Channel Tab --> Settings --> Hide All Join/Part.
[08:24] <losher> darlek: right click on the #ubuntu tab and untick "show join/part messages"...
[08:24] <fccf> Bodsda: but you want to make win work?
[08:24] <songer> the process
[08:24] <quklsls> i am begging for help
[08:25] <protivv> wow my jaunty things it's running on x86... when im using a 64bit processor. that can't be good.
[08:25] <darlek> songer: kill -9 PID where PID is the number seen in the ps command
[08:25] <quklsls> i wrote an 8 page research paper for class tomorrow in open office 3.0
[08:25] <towlie_> Severian, 7.10
[08:25] <p1oooop1> songer: did you try system monitor yet>
[08:25] <songer> ok  darlek
[08:25] <fccf> songer: sudo kill
[08:25] <p1oooop1> *?
[08:25] <quklsls> accidentally deleted and emptied recycle bn
[08:25] <quklsls> bin
[08:25] <songer> yes
[08:25] <Bodsda> fccf: yeah, but I fail to see how restoring ntldr to the mbr will help when that is not the problem
[08:25] <quklsls> there has got to be a way to recover that document
[08:25] <quklsls> its been less than 12 hours
[08:25] <quklsls> since i deleted it
[08:25] <darlek> mobi-sheep, thanks you're awesome
[08:25] <Slart> !recovery | quklsls
[08:26] <p1oooop1> quklsls: you can try browsing the tmp folder
[08:26] <Slart> quklsls: bah.. wrong factoid
[08:26] <mobi-sheep> darlek: Thanks.  I know I'm awesome but don't forget... losher is awesome too.  You heard that, right? :)
[08:26] <quklsls> i tried
[08:26] <Slart> quklsls: open synaptic, search for recover.. there are plenty of file recovery apps
[08:26] <darlek> losher is awesome too
[08:26] <quklsls> the problem is, i'm on xp right now
[08:26] <quklsls> i deleted it on xp
[08:26] <darlek> now that I can read the scroll, yeah
[08:26] <quklsls> i dualboot with ubuntu though
[08:26] <losher> darlek: cheers. Also. check out the xchat faq for other stuff it can do...
[08:26] <Slart> quklsls: and this channel is called #ubuntu.. for #ubuntu help
[08:27] <Bodsda> quklsls: you would need to ask in ##windows
[08:27] <p1oooop1> kinda getting stressed... LOL
[08:27] <quklsls> slart i know bro
[08:27] <Slart> quklsls: so perhaps you should be in a channel called.. ##windows?
[08:27] <tannersummers_> anyone use the ZSNES EMULATOR?
[08:27] <bluewook> Severian: well it can only be seen from inside the network i just want a way to connect to it via ftp securely. i would have to do those things if i wanted to do that?
[08:27] <quklsls> the people here are extremely knowledgeable though...
[08:27] <darlek> I"ve been using chatzilla, but xchat looks a bit more scriptable, and I'll probably do something in Ruby with it ;)
[08:27] <fccf> Bodsda: seems windows got screwed up - the recovery environment allows you access to the nuts and bolts of win -- what process causes BSOD anywhy
[08:27] <towlie_> Severian, 7.10
[08:28] <Slart> quklsls: doesn't really matter.. this channel is for ubuntu support only
[08:28] <mobi-sheep> darlek: I'm annoyed by join/host too but what I did was to edit the Text Events and remove hostnames so I see "mobi-sheep has Quit ("Leaving.")"  --> Very simple.  :)
[08:28] <Bodsda> fccf: no way of knowing, it flashes up for a second then reboots itself
[08:28] <bullgard4> fccf: That is a more comprehensive introduction. --  Thank you for your help.
[08:28] <Severian> towlie_, I got that.  I am doing some research.  I'll be back.
[08:28] <towlie_> ok
[08:29] <fccf> Bodsda: I'd backup the important stuff from ubuntu and reinstall win
[08:29] <Severian> bluewook, I don't understand.  If you mean, you don't need port forward rules for use inside the LAN, then you are correct.
[08:29] <dumbkiwi> how can I save a file on a remote file system using the gnome file dialog without having to mount that file system? - like in the kde file dialog usinf kio slaves.
[08:29] <VIPman> help íóæåíà ïîìîøü
[08:29] <darlek> oh ho... text events... found it..  thanks mobi-sheep
[08:29] <Bodsda> fccf: cheers, but not what I want -- anyway, before the !ot police start shouting at me, il shut up... thanks anyway
[08:29] <bluewook> Severian: right, but i can set the FTP port on the NAS so wouldn't that narrow my chances of being hacked
[08:29] <VIPman>  :o
[08:29] <fccf> !ask | VIPman
[08:30] <mattgyver> does ubuntu use bash?
[08:30] <Severian> bluewook, It helps a little.  A good port scanner will still find it.
[08:30] <Slart> mattgyver: yes
[08:30] <p1oooop1> mattgyver: you mean command line?
[08:30] <dumbkiwi> mattgyver: no it uses dash
[08:30] <mattgyver> Thank you
[08:30] <popey> it uses both
[08:30] <Slart> huh?
[08:30] <popey> sh links to dash
[08:31] <popey> default shell for users is bash
[08:31] <dumbkiwi> mattgyver: if you want to use pure bash, change the symlink for /bin/sh
[08:31] <Severian> mattgyver, It uses dash by default.  It installs bash and you can change to that.
[08:31] <Slart> dumbkiwi: dash instead of sh.. bash for terminal
[08:31] <bluewook> Severian: and passwords don't do anything to stop them either
[08:31] <towlie_> Severian, if you find the answer just hang on i gotta reboot
[08:31] <livingdaylight> popey: is zsh good?
[08:31] <p1oooop1> !zsh
[08:32] <livingdaylight> tried installing zsh but there were so many post-install configuration questions
[08:32] <popey> !good
[08:32] <cllaudyu> !ash
[08:32] <dumbkiwi> how can I save a file on a remote file system using the gnome file dialog without having to mount that file system? - like in the kde file dialog usinf kio slaves.
[08:33] <aaditya> !sftp
[08:33] <livingdaylight> popey: oh, yea, that answer... linuxers love throwing that out - "its all about choice baby!"
[08:33] <fccf> livingdaylight: zsh, bash, ash, --- all the same for the most part -- you only really need bash as a terminal
[08:33] <p1oooop1> achilles: well, I better go... it's WAY TOO LATE
[08:33] <waych> anyone know how to point g++ (x86_64 toolchain) when linking 32bit objects at the libstdc++ archive in /usr/lib32?  (I'm linking with -Wl,-melf_i386)
[08:33] <livingdaylight> you and i know there is a best application for every task; just not everyone agrees, muahaahaa
[08:34] <darlek> omg... again with the nickserver going insane... I have to login now every 20 minutes or less???
[08:34] <livingdaylight> fccf: thx
[08:34] <ManDay> I'm looking for a good, interactive FTP and SCP client. If possible like WinSCP - does anyone know something like this?
[08:34] <p1oooop1> someone help achilles for me I'm outta energy :D
[08:34] <Guest69288> hello!
[08:34] <livingdaylight> acutally, i came in with a different question:
[08:34] <towlie_> Severian, back
[08:34] <dumbkiwi> ManDay: dolphin/konqueror
[08:34] <Guest69288> hello everybody!
[08:34] <fccf> !ask | livingdaylight
[08:34] <darlek> ManDay ;; yes you have one... it's called nautilus... it can run like sftp
[08:34] <ManDay> konqqueror is kde dependent, isnt it?
[08:34] <chuck_> !hi
[08:35] <Guest69288> i have come here to tel u all something!
[08:35] <ManDay> ah ok, nautilus
[08:35] <livingdaylight> is there software that allows one to view OpenOffice upright if one swivels the monitor to portrait?
[08:35] <aaditya> ManDay: In Gnome, goto "Places > Connect to Server..."
[08:35] <darlek> ManDay, nautilus is my konqueror replacement
[08:35] <popey> livingdaylight: yes, xrandr
[08:35] <ManDay> thanks then
[08:35] <dumbkiwi> ManDay: yes - but can access remote file systems and interact with them as if they're local
[08:35] <darlek> ManDay, also bookmark it so you can connect to it again later.
[08:35]  * livingdaylight takes a note of xrandr
[08:35] <Guest69288> u anybody wanna earn more?
[08:35] <aaditya> !scp
[08:35] <Guest69288> u anybody wanna earn more?
[08:35] <Guest69288> u anybody wanna earn more?
[08:35] <bazhang> !ot > Guest69288
[08:36] <rags> any one know how I can check the amout of data trnsfered through ssh? I am using Unison to sync data between two machines. Unisons doesn't provide any switch for tht.
[08:36] <chuck_> !ops
[08:36] <livingdaylight> popey: i want to get a swivelling wallmount for my monitor today if i can find one
[08:36] <aaditya> what's up chuck_?
[08:36] <darlek> well, ubottu is partly right but fails to mention that scp is cli while nautilus being a GUI is superior here...
[08:36] <elky> aaditya, it's already dealt with.
[08:37] <aaditya> alright
[08:37] <chuck_> aaditya, thought guest69288 was spamming
[08:37] <towlie_> im  formatting a partition as a backup drive. what do you guys recommend fat32 or ext3 ?
[08:37] <Severian> towlie_, Try this instead.   sudo do-release-upgrade
[08:38] <towlie_> Severian, ok thanks
[08:38] <p1oooop1> well, I'm back
[08:38] <livingdaylight> xrandr is not in repos?
[08:38] <towlie_> wow failed on getting sources. wtf?
[08:38] <dumbkiwi> how can I save a file on a remote file system using the gnome file dialog without having to mount that file system? - like in the kde file dialog using kio slaves.
[08:39] <rags> any one know how I can check the amout of data transfered through ssh? may be a monitoring or something.
[08:39] <p1oooop1> you should see the room in full swing :D the most crowded  chatroom I've seen all my life
[08:39] <kenyon> rags: I think ssh -v will show that when you disconnect
[08:39] <darlek> dumbkiwi, I think we covered this...nautilus... Places ... Connect to Server
[08:39] <towlie_> Severian, its still failing on all these sources...
[08:40] <rags> kenyon: thx..will try tht.
[08:40] <towlie_> guess its time to format and do a fresh install
[08:40] <Severian> towlie_, can you copy that text and put it in a pastebin?
[08:40] <deadaim> How do I tell if a given package was installed using apt-get?
[08:40] <dumbkiwi> darlek: I'm talking about in the file dialog - want to save files from firefox to a remote file system.  Can't seem to do that in the gnome file dialog without having a mounted file system
[08:40] <towlie_> Severian,  hang on its doing something
[08:41] <losher> towlie_: fat32 does not allow files greater than 4GB in size. If that's not a problem, then it has the advantage of being readable in both windows and linux. Personally, I'd prefer ext3 if its only going to contain Linux files
[08:41] <towlie_> losher, well its gonna contain all kinda of stuff
[08:41] <QaDeS> hiyas. my system monitor shows me that one of my 2 cores is completely hogged, but top doesn't look like that at all. any idea where that pseudo load might be coming from? when i boot into a non-rt kernel, it all seems ok btw.
[08:42] <p1oooop1> you can also try ntfs
[08:42] <p1oooop1> achilles: back...
[08:42] <aaditya> QaDeS: one of the processes in top must be consuming 50% of the CPU...
[08:42] <kenyon> QaDeS: how do you know top doesn't show that?
[08:42] <losher> towlie_: who is going to be reading/writing it?
[08:42] <towlie_> losher just me
[08:42] <darlek> ok this is brutal... pretty much every 7 minutes now the nickserver kicks off my nick then I have to reconnect, rejoin relogin reidentify blah blah...
[08:42] <livingdaylight> popey: i see grandr in repos as a frontend for xrandr but not xrandr itself? will grandr do the job alone or is it just the frotend?
[08:43] <kenyon> QaDeS: press 1 in top to show each CPU's stats
[08:43] <towlie_> Severian, can i pm you with the log. i cant paste it on pastebins site
[08:43] <Severian> towlie_, OK
[08:43] <deadaim> How do I tell if a given package was installed using apt-get?
[08:43] <p1oooop1> not going to work
[08:43] <losher> towlie_: who is going to be reading/writing it? I meant windows or linux or something else?
[08:43] <p1oooop1> flood prevention works too well
[08:44] <aaditya> deadaim: `sudo apt-get install packagename` would tell you if the package is already installed
[08:44] <p1oooop1> !flood
[08:44] <darlek> just apt-get pastebinit as it is not in Jaunty
[08:44] <aaditya> p1oooop1: who's flooding?
[08:44] <QaDeS> ok...one core has "99.6%id"    what does that mean?
[08:44] <deadaim> aaditya: ok thanks
[08:44] <p1oooop1> aaditya: nobody.
[08:44] <deadaim> :)
[08:44]  * darlek test
[08:44] <Silverguy> is there like some beta's of ubuntu i could download?
[08:45] <eseven73> deadaim, dpkg -l |grep packagename   should work too
[08:45] <aaditya> !test | Silverguy
[08:45] <aaditya> not what i meant...
[08:45] <Justin10ec> Oh my gosh! I'm sitting in the living room and I swear there was a loud peck on the back door. It's 3:45am.... What should I do!?
[08:45] <azfira> sadsadsadsadsadaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa45gdf
[08:45] <p1oooop1> aaditya: just warning people of the flood prevention in PMs too
[08:45] <azfira> hbfhfgbrdhktj,yfdbdjuy
[08:45] <azfira> dyh bkdtutd
[08:45] <azfira> tiyuhxftytfnd
[08:45] <azfira> gjgbsfhdf
[08:45] <azfira> gesrfre srnh
[08:45] <azfira> gfje g
[08:45] <FloodBot3> azfira: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:45] <gamla_kossan> hi! I'm having trouble find the make file for revoking certificates with openssl in ubuntu. anyone have a clue where it could be?
[08:46] <p1oooop1> nice.
[08:46] <p1oooop1> nice, banned for life
[08:46] <gamla_kossan> =)
[08:47] <p1oooop1> so, what were we doing again?
[08:47] <sup3rs3nior> When I try to change a file name via ftp, it says access denied, but I own the file and when I check permissions it says i have write access. What gives?
[08:47] <p1oooop1> :D
[08:48] <sup3rs3nior> "response 550: permission denied"
[08:48] <Justin10ec> sup3rs3nior: What ftp client / server are you using?
[08:48] <Newbie-> Hi
[08:48] <sup3rs3nior> filezilla
[08:48] <Newbie-> I want to install Beryl
[08:48] <p1oooop1> hey Newbie-
[08:48] <Newbie-> hey p1oooop
[08:48] <rdw200169> Newbie-, i don't think there's a beryl anymore
[08:48] <sup3rs3nior> and im accessing vsftp on ubuntu server
[08:48] <Slart> !beryl
[08:48] <eseven73> Newbie-, Beryl is outdated
[08:48] <p1oooop1> !beryl
[08:48] <rdw200169> Newbie-, now its compiz-fusion or something like that
[08:48] <Justin10ec> Newbie-: sudo apt-get install compiz
[08:49] <p1oooop1> huh? did ubottu suddenly hate me?
[08:49] <rdw200169> Newbie-, if you're looking for that window border goodness, though, you can install emerald
[08:49] <p1oooop1> !help | ubottu
[08:49] <eseven73> p1oooop, it won't repeat a command that quickly if someone else already did the command
[08:49] <fccf> gamla_kossan: keys are stored in /etc/ssh
[08:49] <p1oooop1> eseven73: ahh, so that is what happened
[08:50] <p1oooop1> eseven73: oh, didnt notice that :D
[08:50] <Slart> p1oooop1: ubottu doesn't repeat factoids too often
[08:50] <livingdaylight> !xrandr
[08:50] <Slart> p1oooop1: but yes.. it hates you a little bit..=)
[08:50] <songer> fccf I typed sudo -look for GDbi ANd I got this top: unknown argument 'l'
[08:50] <songer> usage:	top -hv | -bcisSH -d delay -n iterations [-u user | -U user] -p pid [,pid ...]
[08:50] <p1oooop1> Slart: LOL, yes it does :D
[08:51] <WIGGMPk> I am trying to eradicate a botched source install of KernelCheck, I have removed everything, but when I run "locate kernelcheck" it still lists directories with kernelcheck even though they dont exist. How can I purge locate so it doesnt see them? am I missing something??
[08:51] <darlek_> RENICK
[08:51] <gamla_kossan> fccf: unfortunately, that's not at all what I'm interested in. thx though.
[08:51] <gamla_kossan> fccf: what I want to do is revoke client certificates.
[08:51] <towlie_> Severian, thanks for the help but i guess ill have to do a fresh install
[08:52] <sup3rs3nior> I tried accessing it with two different users. The dir is the home for one of the users, but i got the same 550 response..
[08:52] <kenyon> QaDeS_: id means idle
[08:52] <StevenX> hello all, can someone recommend an alternative to winscp? I need a program to log in to my school's sftp server on port 22
[08:52] <QaDeS_> my computer went dead on me. is that a known problem with the ubuntu realtime kernel on amd64? and does 100%id mean that the idle tasks are completely hogging one core?
[08:52] <kenyon> QaDeS_: No, idle just means it's not doing anything
[08:52] <p1oooop1> QaDeS_: I dont think so.
[08:53] <gamla_kossan> StevenX: what about scp?
[08:53] <gamla_kossan> :)
[08:53] <p1oooop1> hello noobienoob
[08:53] <kenyon> StevenX: scp on cygwin
[08:53] <Justin10ec> !justask
[08:54] <p1oooop1> !test | p1oooop
[08:54] <StevenX> kenyon, can you recommend something in the repos
[08:54] <rj_d> hi.. I upgraded my system to 9.04. I am having problem with VLC. In VLC video is not emebeded in the player
[08:54] <rj_d> ?
[08:54] <p1oooop1> rj_d: you sure it's not the video driver?
[08:55] <kenyon> StevenX: you're asking about Microsoft Windows? they don't have repos.
[08:55] <p1oooop1> kenyon: they do, but it's not accessible VIA terminal commands
[08:55] <rdw200169> StevenX, try the putty tools
[08:55] <rj_d> Please help. What configuration i have to change in the VLC to get video embedded in the player
[08:55] <QaDeS_> ah ok, silly me. the other core is showing "95.7%hi"   but the numbers on the list add up to maybe 10%
[08:55] <StevenX> kenyon,  I am asking for an alternative to winscp on Ubuntu. I was using winscp in windows, now I am on ubuntu and I am looking for a program to the same thing.
[08:55] <StevenX> rdw200169, I installed that, but I can't find it now. How do I run it?
[08:56] <kenyon> StevenX: scp, it's probably already on your machine
[08:56] <kenyon> StevenX: or sftp
[08:56] <rdw200169> StevenX, ah, don't worry then.  ubuntu will do it already. the easiest way to get in there, is using Places -> Connect to Server...
[08:56] <StevenX> hah!
[08:56] <StevenX> thansk rdw200169
[08:56] <StevenX> that was insanely simply.
[08:57] <darlek> StevenX, ..the answer is ...nautilus... Places... Connect To... oddly the same question by 3 different people in less than 20 min??
[08:57] <p1oooop1> rj_d: prbably just a misconfigured gstreamer
[08:57] <mobi-sheep> rj_d: It's an embedded window bug.
[08:57] <p1oooop1> rj_d: try gstreamer-properties in terminal
[08:57] <darlek> everybody now... Places ... Connect to... = WinSCP
[08:57] <p1oooop1> ah, that makes sense
[08:57] <spexor> hey guys
[08:57] <p1oooop1> :D
[08:58] <spexor> quick couple of questions
[08:58] <p1oooop1> hey spexor
[08:58] <darlek> !ask
[08:58] <p1oooop1> !justask
[08:58] <p1oooop1> aww, not again
[08:58] <p1oooop1> :D
[08:58] <Newbie-> sudo apt-get install compiz
[08:58] <Newbie-> Compiz is already installed i think
[08:58] <p1oooop1> Newbie-: yup.
[08:58] <QaDeS_> kenyon: how can i find the process that's hogging my system if i cdon't find it in the process list? :o(
[08:59] <sup3rs3nior> A little pointer for anyone who is curious, vsftp does NOT allow write access by default. This must be enabled in the config file. Just found that out.
[08:59] <spexor> i've got dual monitors but i need to change which one shows the "start menue" and the other one
[08:59] <darlek> QaDeS, use top
[08:59] <Newbie-> So How can I make use of Compiz?
[08:59] <rdw200169> darlek, ah, you beat be
[08:59] <p1oooop1> Newbie-: dunno about that :D
[08:59] <darlek> QaDeS, or use the System Monitor... System ... Administrator... System Monitor
[08:59] <QaDeS_> darlek: that's kind of what i meant with "process list" ;o)
[08:59] <kenyon> QaDeS_: How do you know you have a process hogging your system? you said it was 99% idle
[08:59] <Waks> hey guys just installed the new osx theme but the curves are not so gud anything i can do to change this look on my ubuntu 9.04
[08:59] <p1oooop1> I think there is a shortcut to that...
[08:59] <eseven73> !ccsm | Newbie-
[08:59] <rdw200169> Newbie-, try it by going to System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[09:00] <Gr1> id thre any way i can use ext4 on ubuntu 8.xx
[09:00] <Gr1> *is
[09:00] <darlek> QaDeS, or use the System Monitor... System ... Administrator... System Monitor ... <--- this one will allow you to sort by memory and will tell you if it's stalled or not
[09:00] <p1oooop1> well, thats my cue see you all later
[09:00] <kenyon> Gr1: sure, compile your own kernel
[09:00] <darlek> cheers
[09:00] <p1oooop1> !bye | p1oooop
[09:00] <darlek> haha
[09:00] <darlek> worked
[09:00] <rdw200169> Newbie-, thats the ... easy ... way to check if compiz works, over there in advanced effects or something like that
[09:00] <QaDeS_> kenyon: one core is 99% idle, the other is "99%hi" whatever that means. doesn't smell like pot tho
[09:00] <noobienoob> Ubuntu Hardy Heron, I am trying to install the newest version of brasero (2.26), because the repositories have not been updated since 0.8.2 (this is a known bug afaik) what should I do? I have downloaded the tar.bz2 from their website, but would rather have this done with some apt command if possible
[09:00] <Gr1> kenyon: Hey thanks.. Does a kernel from kernel.org works?
[09:00] <mobi-sheep> QaDeS_: You can list the processes via CPU% -- htop -- Nice interactive app.
[09:00] <spexor> anyone?
[09:01] <kenyon> Gr1: yep
[09:01] <mobi-sheep> !info htop | QaDeS_
[09:01] <Waks> hey guys just installed the new osx theme but the curves are not so gud anything i can do to change this look on my ubuntu 9.04
[09:01] <spexor> i'm just trying to change which monitor is designated as the "main" monitor
[09:01] <darlek> QaDeS, htop is top but in a tree view
[09:01] <Gr1> And is it like make all, make modules_install and make install?? Coz that didnt worked initially..
[09:01] <abstortedminds1> im using GUFW, and want to allow all connections to my network, i tried ALLOW 10.0.1.0/24 and it wont work
[09:01] <p1oooop1> Waks: you can always edit the pictures yourself in the .themes folder
[09:01] <abstortedminds1> allow all local connections on my network
[09:02] <noobienoob> !brasero
[09:02] <p1oooop1> Waks: well, I'm out
[09:02] <WIGGMPk> how do you make "locate" resync or index itself?
[09:02] <p1oooop1> !rhythmbox
[09:02] <darlek> !locate
[09:02] <Pici> WIGGMPk: sudo updatedb
[09:02] <Gr1> kenyon: Have you tried a custom kernel? If yes, you can throw some light on that.
[09:02] <QaDeS_> but will it show more than top in this regard?
[09:03] <songer> I can't still close the window darlek
[09:03] <darlek> !locate | WIGGMPk
[09:03] <noobienoob> Ubuntu Hardy Heron, I am trying to install the newest version of brasero (2.26), because the repositories have not been updated since 0.8.2 (this is a known bug afaik) what should I do? I have downloaded the tar.bz2 from their website, but would rather have this done with some apt command if possible
[09:03] <Waks> Plooopl: thanks man i will just check that out
[09:03] <ManDay> How can I customize what items are shown in "Places"? Is there any config for it?
[09:03] <QaDeS_> no, it doesn't ^ ^
[09:03] <WIGGMPk> darlek Pici thanks a bunch
[09:03] <rj_d> What I have to do?
[09:03] <kenyon> !kernel | Gr1
[09:03] <Pici> ManDay: The places menu is built from nautilus bookmarks, open a new nautilus (file manager) window and modify it from the menu.
[09:04] <Gr1>  /msg ubottu
[09:04] <Gr1> ?
[09:04] <songer> it says use single character options
[09:04] <ManDay> Pici, there are items shown in "places" which do not stem from my bookmarks
[09:04] <easter_egg> hello world :-)
[09:04] <ManDay> For instance "Home Folder", "Network" or "Search for Files"
[09:04] <Gr1> kenyon: ubottu: Thank you for that. I will check that out :)
[09:04] <darlek> ManDay, you can add a bookmark to new servers, but the default is with gnome.  If you connect to a server, be sure to hit add bookmark
[09:04] <Pici> ManDay: Oh, those, I'm not sure how to modify that, sorry.
[09:04] <fccf> songer: at this point I'd reccomend rebooting
[09:05] <eseven73> !bot > Gr1
[09:05] <songer> ok
[09:05] <uhriventis> I have been having a strange resolution problem after I got the correct NVIDIA drivers which would be. I can't set it on 1280x1040 on the NVIDIA display program but, when I do it manually it's so large I have to scroll down and right and left, etc. But, on MS works fine. Any ideas?
[09:05] <ManDay> Can anyone tell me how to customize the "Places" menu so I can get rid of items such as "Netowkr" and "Search for files", etc. ?
[09:05] <Gr1> Got it
[09:05] <fccf> uhriventis -- 1280X1080 is the correct res
[09:06] <WIGGMPk> I have always had a terrible time with "removing" programs that were installed from source code.. What is the best method.. if an uninstaller doesnt exist, should I just "seek and destroy"?
[09:06] <darlek> !xorg | uhriventis
[09:06] <spexor> so...........no one can answer my question
[09:06] <QaDeS_> http://pastie.org/496314   <-- that's what i meant by "doesn't show up in the process list"
[09:06] <uhriventis> The card is a GeForce 6150 LE
[09:06] <ManDay> I lost the tree-view in my nautilus - where can I get it back?
[09:06] <uhriventis> Spex, what was the question
[09:07] <eseven73> ManDay, that setting should be somewhere in the 'view' menu on nautilus
[09:07] <CybeRebel> hello :) can somebody tell me how to change system sounds please
[09:07] <uhriventis> Ubottu: Do you know what I mean by scrolling though?
[09:07] <darlek> ManDay, View -- Side Pane
[09:07] <ManDay> darlek, i have no such item in the view menu
[09:07] <uhriventis> Like when I move my mouse left right up down the whole desktop moves.
[09:07] <Bodsda> is there any way of running a file system check on an ntfs drive from within ubuntu?
[09:08] <fccf> uhreiventis: ubottu is a robot - you cannot ask it questions
[09:08] <uhriventis> Also, how do I open NVIDIA's program as root so I can save changes.
[09:08] <Bodsda> uhriventis: gksudo nvidia-settings
[09:08] <uhriventis> OH
[09:08] <uhriventis> Nice
[09:09] <ManDay> darlek, i have no such item in the view menu
[09:09] <QaDeS_> kenyon: any idea about the pastie? been doing linux for 10 years now, but until now all hogging could be cleared by looking at top or ps ;) i feel like i'm missing some new magic knowledge
[09:09] <darlek> ManDay: click on Home an the tree on the left should be there, then click on the network you're sftp'ing to ... does that return the tree view?
[09:09] <ManDay> Click on home, where, darlek
[09:09] <darlek> ManDay, Places
[09:09] <ignusb> hello. I've just installed ubuntu 9.04 on my desktop from the live-cd, now getting "GRUB - Error 17" every time I try to boot. I've tried a filesystem check/repair on each of the partitions of the HDD it's installed on, I've tried re-installing/re-configuring GRUB, and it stays as just Error 17. My config is 3 HDD's, ubuntu installed on the 3rd HDD as seen in the BIOS, WXP installed on the 1st, I'd like to be able to dual boot. At the moment,
[09:09] <ignusb> I can't single boot however, so that would be a nice start. Any suggestions from anyone of what I can do next?
[09:10] <fccf> Bodsda - you will need to install gparted and ntfs-3g to work with ntfs and run a check on it
[09:10] <ManDay> When I addded the bookmark for the ftp it got added to my desktop by an ugly long name and places - how can i remove it? IO cant delete it from the desktop!
[09:10] <Slart> ignusb: what does grub error 17 mean?
[09:10] <Bodsda> fccf: got both
[09:10] <ManDay> darkle, no when i went to "home" the tree didnt appear
[09:10] <uhriventis> Thanks bod
[09:10] <uhriventis> I knew it was something like that
[09:10] <black_wolf_92> ignusb. Post the output of your terminal for "gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[09:10] <pooky> oui lol
[09:11] <darlek> ManDay: it's a link, so it can only be unmounted.  Places and Nautilus can unmount it or rename it.
[09:11] <fccf> Bodsda: run gparted with ntfs unmounted . select the drive - upper right hand corner... right click on partition and check
[09:11] <uhriventis> It lets me do 1280X1080 but I have to scroll around. As if the res is to large
[09:11] <darlek> ManDay: not sure why it's even on the desktop though
[09:11] <Bodsda> Slart: according to http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html its an invalid device request
[09:11] <Rashmi> Google Wave to "redefine" E-mail communication...
[09:11] <Rashmi> Will this killer attempt succeed ??
[09:11] <ManDay> Yeah, why the f is it on my desktop....
[09:11] <Rashmi> people who aren't ware of Google wave ..check out at my blog for more details
[09:11] <Rashmi> http://www.techfancy.co.cc
[09:11] <FloodBot3> Rashmi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:11] <darlek> ManDay, I use slicehost and it's a bookmark not a desktop file
[09:11] <fccf> uhriventis: you may be stuck with 1024x768
[09:12] <darlek> haha
[09:12] <darlek> good question
[09:12] <bullgard4> Synaptic: "For ALSA to work on a system with a given sound card, there must be an ALSA driver for that card in the kernel." My Audio device is 'Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)'. What is "the ALSA driver for that card" in the kernel? Is it "snd_hda_intel"? lsmod lists another 12 modules with 'snd' in their names.
[09:12] <darlek> !sound
[09:12] <eseven73> Ping_Pong, don't spam here please.
[09:13] <Ping_Pong> hey i just thought of sharing info thats it
[09:13] <nanobot_> !sound
[09:13] <Ping_Pong> not spaming
[09:13] <mak_3> Hi
[09:13] <spexor> does anyone know how to designate which monitor is the "main" one?
[09:13] <CybeRebel> hello all, can someone help me change system sounds please
[09:13] <fccf> bullgard4: snd_hda_intel is the correct driver ... type aplay -l to list devices
[09:13] <ignusb> Slart: I can't work out what error 17 is, though it appears to be when GRUB can find the partition, but can't mount it for some reason, possibly that it doesn't recognise the FS. I used the ubuntu auto-partition thing, so it's set to ext3
[09:13] <uhriventis> fccf: why does windows do it and openSUSE but not ubuntu?
[09:13] <darlek> CybeRebel, System Preferences Sounds then click the Sounds tab
[09:13] <spexor> no one?
[09:13] <Bodsda> ignusb: your almost correct, try googling 'grub error codes'
[09:14] <fccf> Slart: grub is looking in the wrong place for the partition
[09:14] <CybeRebel> tryed that but it wont open sound folders
[09:14] <ignusb> and black_wolf_92 seems to have left, but I have no idea how to bring up that file, it doesn't seem to exist on the local system, from what I typed. Guessing I'm going to have to mount something first
[09:14] <fccf> uhriventis: windows do what??
[09:14] <Bodsda> fccf: shhh, its a learning experience -- slart is the helper btw
[09:14] <Slart> ignusb: did you have a pastebin of your /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[09:14] <ManDay> i cant resize the "Name" column in nautilus to take less than 80% of the screen, although there is no file with such a long name!!
[09:14] <ignusb> /boot/grub/menu.lst is a blank file
[09:14] <ManDay> and the tree view just wont come up
[09:14] <darlek> !grub
[09:14] <Slart> fccf: thanks =)
[09:14] <uhriventis> Windows does 1280X1080 just fine as with SUSE
[09:14] <ManDay> wtf is that whole thing...
[09:14] <mobi-sheep> eseven73: Yes, he was spamming.  He came in... spam away.... and left.
[09:15] <uhriventis> But, ubuntu has a problem for some reason
[09:15] <Slart> ignusb: blank? ehm.. that's bad.. really sure it's blank?
[09:15] <eseven73> mobi-sheep, yep gotta love those hit-and-run spammers/trolls
[09:15] <mak_3> hello all, can someone help me to transfer mails from Thunderbird installed in Windows to Thunderbird installed to Ubuntu
[09:15] <uhriventis> Along with Fedora, Debian, Redhat, they all have no problems
[09:15] <Slart> ignusb: what's the setup of your machine? ubuntu version? number of drives? separate partitions for things?
[09:15] <darlek> ManDay, lol man i don't know... Under Places.. Bookmarks.. does your server exist there?
[09:15] <uhriventis> Slax etc
[09:15] <ignusb> well, it opened in gedit, and there is nothing in the file. upon further investigation... /boot/grub does not exist
[09:16] <darlek> ManDay, as a link I mean
[09:16] <ignusb> unless I'm looking in the wrong drive, distinct possibility
[09:16] <ManDay> yes it does darlek
[09:16] <BlackWolf1> gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:16] <BlackWolf1> sorry for mistake
[09:16] <BlackWolf1> u need the forward slash
[09:16] <fccf> uhriventis: the nvidia xorg is a different version, have you tried running detect displays from nvidia-settings as root
[09:16] <uhriventis> Ubuntu 9.04 Dual AMD 64 4200+ 1 gig ram
[09:16] <nanobot_> !sound
[09:16] <uhriventis> 256 NVIDA card
[09:16] <ManDay> darlek, i found a way to enable tree view.
[09:16] <uhriventis> No let me try now
[09:17] <songer> hey I did reboot but It says only one softwere management tool is allowed
[09:17] <bullgard4> fccf: What do you mean by "correct"? Does you statement mean the others are in my kernel errorneously and can be removed without harm?
[09:17] <darlek> ManDay, oh?
[09:17] <ManDay> in the pereferences i checked "always open in browser window"
[09:17] <darlek> ManDay, cool
[09:17] <BlackWolf1> so ignusb type [gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst] in the terminal
[09:17] <pooky> Hello, i have a camera problem again , i dowlaoded f-spot but it says in the source finding that it didn't detect a camera
[09:17] <bullgard4> s/you/your/
[09:17] <ManDay> i dont see the connection, but whatever
[09:17] <BlackWolf1> it shouldn't be a blank file. If it IS you have a problem
[09:17] <uhriventis> Also, the monitor I use is old... A Gateway2000
[09:17] <ManDay> so, now i need to get rid of the icon on my desktop
[09:17] <ignusb> ok, found it. I'm currently running from the live cd, I had to navigate to a different hdd where it's stored
[09:17] <fccf> songer: there is a lock in /var/lock/apt you will need to remove as root
[09:18] <BlackWolf1> ah ok
[09:18] <BlackWolf1> forgot that bit of info
[09:18] <Slart> ignusb: ah.. that would explain it.. so now you have a menu.lst file, right?
[09:18] <BlackWolf1> now could you past this to a copy paste site
[09:18] <darlek> ManDay, which tab is that in prefs?
[09:18] <BlackWolf1> and we can have a look from there
[09:18] <songer> fhow can I do that?
[09:18] <uhriventis> Detect displays does nothing
[09:18] <Slart> !pastebin | ignusb
[09:18] <mak_3> hello all, can someone help me to transfer mails from Thunderbird installed on Windows to Thunderbird installed on Ubuntu???
[09:18] <ignusb> I'm on IRC from my laptop, the desktop has a shifty NIC, not co-operating at the moment. different issue
[09:18] <ignusb> though I'll connect up and give it a go for that...
[09:19] <fccf> uhriventis: don't know what to tell you
[09:19] <BlackWolf1> there are a lot of people who can help with grub problems, as they are fairly common. You will find a solution, its just that there are a lot of possibilites
[09:19] <ManDay> darlek, what do you mean which tab?
[09:19] <Slart> ignusb: ok.. let's see what we can do... if you open the file up you'll first see a lot of text.. comments and settings bla bla bla..some way down in the file you'll see a list of kernels.. about 5 lines for each kernel.. do you see that part?
[09:19] <achilles> p1oooop, it seems x problem, I rebuilt the driver and the same problem
[09:19] <brennus> Does anyone have experience with Avidemux, Kino, or other video-editing software? I need to rotate some scenes, and can't figure it out in either of these.
[09:19] <darlek> ManDay, in nautilus... Edit ... prefs... is that where you found always open in tree view?
[09:20] <Bodsda> omg, /start_rant  my windows was bsoding because of an unclean filesystem, it wouldnt chkdsk itself, but when i try to mount it on ubuntu it says -- "unclean filesystem... fixing" << Thank you mr linux, have a cookie /end_rant
[09:20] <spexor> does anyone know why amarok can't play my god damn mp3's?
[09:20] <Bodsda> spexor: have you installed the gstreamer libraries?
[09:20] <BlackWolf1> go to add remove programs
[09:20] <BlackWolf1> and search gstreamer
[09:20] <Slart> ignusb: if you look at my file at http://pastebin.com/f40922f2d  , the part I'm talking about starts at line 133
[09:20] <spexor> i have not. but i will
[09:20] <ManDay> darlek, no its called "always open in browser windows" under "behaviour"
[09:20] <uhriventis> Yeah it's weird.
[09:20] <uhriventis> I think it's just ubuntu
[09:20] <ManDay> very unintuitive, i admit
[09:21] <ignusb> got it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/185472/
[09:21] <ManDay> Can someone help me with the following two problems: (1) Every time I connect to a server with natuilus a desktop icon appears. (2) The "Name"-Column in Natuilus can'T be resized to below 80% of the window width.
[09:21] <darlek> ManDay, wow, glad I have it there already... I would never have guessed
[09:22] <spexor> it says they're all installed
[09:22] <Bodsda> ignusb: could you provide us with the output of    sudo fdisk -l   please (in a pastebin)
[09:22] <ManDay> darlek, me either - i just found it googling the ubuntu forums
[09:22] <mak_3> hello all, can someone help me to transfer mails from Thunderbird installed on WindowsXp (I hate) to Thunderbird installed on Ubuntu???
[09:22] <fccf> songer: I can't help you with that ... buy a book on linux command line
[09:22] <achilles> p1oooop1, I believe it's Xserver problem, not driver
[09:22] <Bodsda> spexor: if you have rhythmbox, try playing them with that to see if it is amaroks fault
[09:22] <Slart> ignusb: have you edited this file by hand?
[09:22] <songer> fccf darlek thank you for your help< I'll try it tomorrow
[09:23] <songer> ok
[09:23] <ignusb> I haven't touched the file, it's exactly as it was generated.
[09:23] <ManDay> As a matter of fact the so called "tree view" isnt even a tree-view is it?!
[09:23] <ignusb> Bodsda, working on it.
[09:23] <CybeRebel> anyone know why sounds folders wont open (sys/preferences/sound/sounds tab) ?
[09:23] <Bodsda> ignusb: cheers
[09:23] <songer> ok fccf I'll do that
[09:23] <ManDay> It's not like you had a tree of folders on the left, is it?
[09:23] <achilles> p1oooop1, startx gives the following : Fatal server error : no screens found
[09:23] <darlek> ManDay, ah no... details details..
[09:23] <ManDay> ah nevermind
[09:23] <BlackWolf1> Yep, basically ignusb, before we check for OTHER problems, we'll just do a quick check on whether your fdisk output, matches your boot menu file. Ater that, we can check for other issues
[09:24] <ManDay> i just figured that the type of the side panel can be changed
[09:24] <ignusb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/185474/
[09:24] <darlek> ManDay, technically a list view but hey
[09:24] <pooky> Could someone PLEASE help me...
[09:24] <Bodsda> ignusb: what are you having problems botting, win1, win2 or ubuntu?
[09:24] <Slart> ignusb: hmm.. let me check some stuff.. you've got some strange things in your file but I'm not sure if it's something they've changed in jaunty
[09:24] <fccf> !ask | pooky
[09:25] <ignusb> Bodsda, it won't even get to the bootloader UI
[09:25] <pooky> fccf, I've asked 3 times.. for the last 3àmin...
[09:25] <pooky> 30minutes*
[09:25] <Bodsda> ignusb: oh, you get error 17 before grub menu?
[09:25] <darlek> ManDay, how about under prefs view, setting to compact mode then under 50% while having fixed all columns the same?  maybe then you can view the file under 80%?
[09:25] <rj_d> Hi I am still not able to embed the video in the VLC
[09:25] <ignusb> it says something along the lines of "Loading GRUB   <CRLF>  Error 17"
[09:25] <ManDay> well it just bothers me that i cant resize the column as i wish
[09:25] <rj_d> i tried usign gstremer-terminal
[09:26] <ManDay> it just gets stuck at a certain point
[09:26] <ManDay> not always 80% tho. depends on the folder im in
[09:26] <rj_d> but not working
[09:26] <darlek> ManDay, the mouse hover on the edge doesn't do anything?
[09:26] <songer> ok thank you  goodbye
[09:26] <Bodsda> ignusb: ah, that clears things up -- I think reinstalling grub may help
[09:26] <ManDay> well it goes into "reizse mode" but when i try to actually resize the collumn i cant get it below a certain point
[09:26] <rj_d> Please help.. Wat I have to do to embed the video in VLC..
[09:26] <ignusb> already done it, twice :P
[09:27] <pooky> Ok my question is , how come when i use my cemera the canon G9, my computer doesn't recognize it, i've tried using F-spot but doesn't change anything...
[09:27] <Bodsda> ignusb: and no change from the error 17?
[09:27] <ignusb> always Error 17
[09:27] <CybeRebel> please help, to change system sounds, do i need to run as root?
[09:27] <darlek> ManDay, if you're under View List try View icons .. then you might be able to rename it there
[09:27] <ignusb> same place, before the UI apperas
[09:27] <spexor> that's wierd
[09:27] <darlek> ManDay, or see what the hell it is
[09:27] <BlackWolf1> ignusb: try entering your BIOS and check for settings such as "Detecting Drives" etc
[09:27] <darlek> lol
[09:27] <fccf> pooky: the recommendation is buy $5 usb reader
[09:27] <spexor> amarok won't play but rythmbox will
[09:27] <BlackWolf1> it sounds as if its a bios specific problem
[09:27] <ManDay> No, darlek not able to rename it either
[09:28] <Slart> ignusb: ok, it was as I suspected.. it's a new jaunty thing.. your menu.lst file looks ok
[09:28] <darlek> argh
[09:28] <ManDay> The ugly thing just sits there and annoys me
[09:28] <achilles> guys, how do I know if I have a driver problem or Xserver problem when my  gnome tries to start, it gives a black screen with some colored horizontal lines and freezed response
[09:28] <ignusb> BlackWolf1: I've gone into the BIOS, redetected each of the drives, each is seen as the correct size
[09:28] <achilles> frozen*
[09:28] <darlek> sweet
[09:28] <BlackWolf1> hmm, this is odd indeed
[09:28] <darlek> well I'm off.  have a good night/morning...
[09:28] <rj_d>  p1oooop1: I think my driver is working fine  and I have tried all combination in gstreamer-terminal
[09:28] <BlackWolf1> have you made a topic on ubuntu forums? Your more likely to get help from long termers there, as people with similar problems will find the thread
[09:28]  * darlek cheers
[09:29] <ignusb> no I haven't, that was going to be the next step after here.
[09:29] <BlackWolf1> its beyond my scope, and most likely a hardware specific issue
[09:29] <BlackWolf1> make sure in the post, you put all your computer specs etc
[09:29] <BlackWolf1> good luck with it all though, i hope you can sort this out
[09:29] <fccf> !ubuntuforums is how I learned ubuntu and how to fix things
[09:29] <pooky> Oh sorry fccf, I've already asked that question, I mean my other question was...That There's this website that plays music (only plays no downloads) on a playlist that requires flash plugin,...i put flash but it still doesn't work so...Now I'm hopeless...
[09:30] <ignusb> alright, thanks for the assistance. Slart, any other ideas? or shall I put it to the forum
[09:30] <Bodsda> Slart: BlackWolf1 -- all yours, i need to fix my windows install
[09:30] <fccf> pooky: try gnash
[09:30] <Slart> ignusb: nah... from what I can tell your menu.lst file looks ok... the uuid's might be wrong but I don't really know how to check that
[09:31] <Slart> ignusb: I would try reinstalling grub, just because it's a pretty easy and quick solution if it works
[09:31] <BlackWolf1> well it seems he's not even getting to the UI, which indicates an issue BEFORE the boot menu has even been loaded
[09:32] <Slart> ignusb: you're not using some BIOS feature to select which hard drive to boot from?
[09:32] <AdvoWork> Hi there. on one of our servers we always ssh to it, using root, and perform any tasks etc. I know this is bad practice, so im going to create a series of users. whats the best way to go about this? 2 users will need admin type privalages without being able to destroy things?
[09:32] <nickgrey147> can i take a oracle data base on a ntfs drive out of a window 2003 server pop it in a linux machine and hook it with oracle , and run it on ntfs with out a problem
[09:32] <nickgrey147> with the right ntfs drivers of cos ?
[09:32] <ignusb> Slart, not that I'm aware of.
[09:33] <ignusb> I'll check that again though.
[09:33] <flintwingel> !sudo
[09:33] <tiyowan> nickgrey147: I'd check the Oracle documentation for that.
[09:33] <Slart> ignusb: no need to check.. you would know if you were =)
[09:33] <Slart> ignusb: some BIOS have a little boot menu of their own.. where the different drives popup and you can select one to boot from
[09:33] <ignusb> ok, no, not using that.
[09:34] <Slart> ignusb: then try a reinstall of grub.. if that doesn't fix it write a post on the forums
[09:34] <spexor> does ANYONE know how to switch which monitor is the main one?
[09:34] <pshr_> ^_^
[09:34] <pshr_> /
[09:34] <spexor> i've been asking for the past half hour
[09:35] <achilles> guys please help, aticonfig give : no supported adapters detected!
[09:35] <Slart> spexor: I do it using nvidia-settings
[09:35] <indus> spexor: WHICH verrsion of ubuntu u using?
[09:35] <ignusb> Slart: already reinstalled twice, so to the forums it is.
[09:35] <yokobr> Does anybody knows any RAD tool for linux, except Lazarus?
[09:35] <ignusb> thanks for the assistance. have a good day/night
[09:36] <tannersummers_> Guys i cant seem to partition my partitions i have 32 gb free unacounlted space and yet i cant add it to windows or linux partition in 3 diff partition managers
[09:36] <Slart> ignusb: you're welcome.. hope you get it fixed
[09:36] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: Which partition managers have you tried?
[09:36] <brennus>  Does anyone have experience with Avidemux, Kino, or other video-editing software? I need to rotate some scenes, and can't figure it out in either of these.
[09:37] <tannersummers_> gparted and KDE partitoon manager and windows partiton manager (came with vista)
[09:37] <indus> !kino
[09:37] <spexor> the newest version
[09:37] <spexor> i just installed it today
[09:37] <spexor> i'm running an ATI 4950
[09:37] <brennus> !Avidemux
[09:37] <spexor> on an i7 system
[09:37] <tannersummers_> !partition
[09:37] <fccf> brennus: are you trying to rotate video?
[09:38] <pshr_> !cheese
[09:38] <tannersummers_> !PartitionManager
[09:38] <indus> spexor: try preferences> screen resolution
[09:38] <brennus> fccf: Yes! that's what I'm trying to do
[09:38] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: What exactly happens when you try to create a partition out of the unallocated space?
[09:38] <spexor> you mean preferences>display?
[09:38] <indus> spexor: ya
[09:38] <spexor> because that just lets me move them around. not designate main display
[09:38] <fccf> brennus: i'd go to google and search for ffmpeg rotate
[09:39] <tannersummers_> I can create a partition no problem but none on either windows or ubuntu will allow me to add it to a partiton to increase size, i think it might be cuase they used?
[09:39] <indus> spexor: you have any ATI console?
[09:39] <spexor> ati console?
[09:39] <indus> tannersummers_: some ati config tool
[09:39] <khadafi> help me please?
[09:39] <indus> tannersummers_: i dont think you can add a partition to an existing partition
[09:40] <indus> tannersummers_: it doesnt make sense as that partition could be ext3 so how can u add it to some other formatted partition
[09:40] <fccf> tannersummers_: you could resize another partition if the partition is next to the unallocated space
[09:40] <tannersummers_> no
[09:41] <tannersummers_> next to it?
[09:41] <tannersummers_> then how cna i move it? lol
[09:41] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: That is not the proper way to increase the size of an existing partition. What you need to do is, delete the empty partitions you have created so that you have unallocated space once more, and then you need to use the appropriate option in your partition manager to increase the size of the existing partition.
[09:41] <fccf> tannersummers_: above it or below it
[09:41] <indus> tannersummers_: tiyowan:yeah
[09:41] <Gamarok__> hi whats the support channel for ubuntu malaysia
[09:41] <Gamarok__> hi whats the support channel for ubuntu malaysia
[09:42] <tiyowan> !malay
[09:42] <tiyowan> Hmmm.
[09:42] <tannersummers_> tiyowan ffcf indus no, I have 32gb unallocated space (no partition no format) and I cant added the free space to any partition to increase it, only creat a new one
[09:42] <Flannel> !my | Gamarok__
[09:42] <tiyowan> Thanks, Flannel.
[09:43] <ninjafury> hi, I'm running jaunty 64 on my laptop. I have an ICH9M sound card, and volume is set at max but no where near as loud as vista. Can anyone help?
[09:43] <flintwingel> is the list of ! responses documented anywhere?
[09:43] <magentar> ninjafury, try alsamixer -c0
[09:44] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: Check the documentation of the partition manager in order to find out the correct steps.
[09:44] <indus> tannersummers_: you need to edit your existing partition to increase its size/ partitioner will use whatever free space is needed for new size
[09:44] <guntbert> !bot | flintwingel
[09:44] <Gamarok__> !malaysia
[09:44] <fccf> Gamarok__: close as you are going to get is #ubuntu-sg - singapore
[09:45] <Gamarok__> ok fccf thanks
[09:45] <flintwingel> guntbert: thanks
[09:45] <Flannel> fccf, Gamarok__: or #ubuntu-my
[09:45] <gartral> what screensaver setups allow configurations of the screensaver?
[09:45] <Gamarok__> cheers flannel
[09:45] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: If it's a GUI-based partition manager, generally what you have to do is -select- the partition you want to resize, and then look for the resize option.
[09:45] <tannersummers_> tiyowan  indus thats the thing tho, 2 partition managers on ubuntu and the one that came with windows vista i right click on my windows partition or my ubuntu partition on either of the three but the increase/resize option is shaded in
[09:45] <guntbert> flintwingel: have fun :)
[09:46] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: Are you using ubuntu right now?
[09:46] <ninjafury> magentar, I maxed all the output levels, and it did help a little. Vista is still way louder though. Anywhere else I should look?
[09:46] <fccf> tannersummers_: the win partition manager will not see the ubuntu or anything after it
[09:46] <bullgard4> What does mean the entry 'closed' in /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/sub0/status?
[09:47] <indus> tannersummers_: use a live cd to partition /its easier i feel .you cannot edit partitions which aare alreadyy mounted
[09:47] <magentar> ninjafury, not really no.. maybe check if there's other users who have the same problem with their soundcard
[09:47] <tannersummers_> tiyowan yes and fccf either way it wont let me increase the size of the windows partiton while log into windows, i think i need to do it before pc boots up on a cd or something
[09:47] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: What indus said. Do your partitioning off a live CD.
[09:47] <gartral> what screensaver setups allow configurations of the screensaver?
[09:47] <tannersummers_> how do i go among doing that?
[09:48] <fccf> tannersummers_: boot from ubuntu live cd
[09:48] <indus> tannersummers_: i assume you have an ubuntu live cd
[09:48] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: Pop in an Ubuntu Live CD, boot off the CD, and then open up the partitioning tool ... gparted I think, and do it from there.
[09:48] <tannersummers_> yes i do
[09:48] <tannersummers_> im new at ubuntu so how do i open up gparted
[09:48] <khadafi> hello
[09:48] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: Don't mix Windows-based partition tools with Linux ones.
[09:49] <khadafi> i have a problem with my ubuntu
[09:49] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: It's in System -> Administration I believe.
[09:49] <fccf> tannersummers_: System>Administration>Partition Manager
[09:49] <indus> tannersummers_: when the system boots into live cd environment go to system>administration>partition manager( or something like taht)
[09:49] <fccf> !ask | khadafi
[09:50] <tannersummers_> wait, so run ubuntu off cd and do it? or run program while cd is in?
[09:50] <Tileen> hy
[09:50] <fccf> tannersummers_: both
[09:50] <indus> fccf: heh
[09:51] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: Run Ubuntu off the CD.
[09:51] <Tileen> i need a invite mail for torrentleech.org
[09:51] <tiyowan> tannersummers_: And use the Partition Manager which is in the Ubuntu that is running from the Live CD.
[09:51] <Tileen> =)
[09:51] <tannersummers_> ok guys brb i hope this works
[09:51] <khadafi> if i install a new package i am get some error please check :http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m41e2418a
[09:51] <indus> tannersummers_: okies
[09:51] <tiyowan> !off-topic | Tileen
[09:51] <khadafi> ubottu : ok
[09:52] <Roswell> u are bot..
[09:52] <yokobr> Does anybody have installed Enveria on ubuntu? i can't install it on jaunty
[09:52] <fccf> Roswell: there are several bots in this room to keep things in check
[09:53] <gartral> what screensaver setups allow configurations of the screensaver?
[09:56] <Benalex> I installed Jaunty and it is always running in low graphics mode on Dell Optiplex 755 desktop win Intel Q35 graphics chipset, and it was the same with Intrepid, I thought it will be fixed, but it didn't, any ideas?
[09:56] <Benalex> with* Intel Q35
[10:00] <yokobr> please, could anyone help me to install enveria on ubuntu jaunty?
[10:01] <fccf> yokobr:what is your native language?
[10:03] <tannersummers> =[
[10:03] <tannersummers> grr this sucks
[10:03] <tiyowan> tannersummers: What happened?
[10:04] <indus> tannersummers: yeah what happened
[10:04] <fccf> tannersummers: >>????
[10:04] <tannersummers> tiyowan im running off cd now, i can increase size of partiton but only the one next to the empty space, and unlucky for me the swap partition is next to it and wont let me chage that one at all
[10:04] <indus> tannersummers: just delete swap and create new swap later
[10:04] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Yeah. You need to have unallocated space next to the partition you want to resize.
[10:05] <yokobr> fccf, PT-BR
[10:05] <tannersummers> how do i delete and create one later?
[10:05] <indus> tannersummers: select partition and delete :)
[10:05] <tiyowan> tannersummers: What indus said. Just delete it using partition manager.
[10:05] <tannersummers> wont it jack up my ubuntu partition
[10:05] <G_A_C> if you're using GParted or similar, just delete it, do your partition resize, then create a new one in GParted afterwards before runnign "mkswap /dev/sdxx"?
[10:06] <indus> tannersummers: well do you have data on those partitions?
[10:06] <fccf> tannersummers: unmount the swap delete it ... then resize other partition leaving space for a swap... then add swap back ... will not hurt ubuntu partition
[10:06] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Deleting your swap partition won't affect your other partitions.
[10:06] <tannersummers> ill give it a try :S
[10:06] <yokobr> fccf, brazilian portuguese
[10:06] <tiyowan> tannersummers: And try to chill out. Partitioning needs a calm frame of mind. :)
[10:06] <indus> tannersummers: ya what tiyowan said
[10:06] <tannersummers> i have a bad habit of breaking crap lol
[10:07] <fccf> yokobr: try asking in #ubuntu-br
[10:07] <indus> tannersummers: just remember to leave enough space for swap then create new swap in that space
[10:07] <flintwingel> tannersummers: backups are you friend :)
[10:07] <tannersummers> i got school in 4 hours, right now not much of a time to backup over 100 gb on windows and my whole ubuntu partition lol
[10:08] <tannersummers> so how is everyone doing?
[10:09] <fccf> tannersummers: idle chat is reserved for #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:09] <indus> tiyowan: btw, resizing a partition destroys data on it no?
[10:09] <tannersummers> hmm so many channels
[10:10] <stpr> I'm looking for an alternative to the Mycar-monitor for ubuntu. Does anyone knows something?
[10:10] <Benalex> I installed Jaunty and it is always running in low graphics mode on Dell Optiplex 755 desktop with Intel Q35 graphics chipset, and it was the same with Intrepid, I thought it will be fixed, but it didn't, any ideas?
[10:10] <indus> !intel
[10:10] <tiyowan> indus: I don't think so.
[10:10] <tiyowan> indus: Depends on which tool you're using.
[10:10] <indus> tiyowan: but the one with the live cd doesnt ?
[10:11] <indus> i dont remember resizing  a partition with data on it
[10:11] <indus> nvm
[10:11] <yokobr> fccf, i've tryied... and no one knows the answer..
[10:12] <Benalex> indus ty :)
[10:12] <yokobr> well, everybody is sleeping ehhe
[10:12] <tiyowan> indus: Well, Ubuntu used parted; I don't think it has any trouble resizing ext2-3 partitions.
[10:12] <indus> Benalex: you are most welcome :)
[10:12] <fccf> yokobr: your other option is serarching ubuntuforums
[10:12] <indus> tiyowan: okk
[10:12] <tiyowan> indus: I don't use parted to resize Windows partitions.
[10:13] <tiyowan> indus: Just for safety. It's better to use Win-tools with Windows partitions, and linux tools for linux partitions.
[10:13] <indus> tiyowan: no i mean ubuntu only didnt mean windows partitions
[10:13] <indus> tiyowan: i always did fresh partitions for ubuntu , dont remember altering a partition to a new size
[10:14] <tiyowan> indus: It isn't a problem - I've resized the partition my home directory resided on before using parted.
[10:14] <Name141> if I make a live USB stick, will I be able to update it and it know the changes?
[10:14] <fccf> tannersummers: another option is to use your unallocated space as fat32 which will be readable from both win and ubuntu
[10:14] <indus> tiyowan: ok cool thanks
[10:14] <Name141> IE: security updates, video drivers, so on ?
[10:14] <tannersummers> fccf im trying to make my windows bigger but if someone can help me ill show a ss
[10:14] <tiyowan> indus: np
[10:15] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Are you trying to resize your Windows partition?
[10:15] <tannersummers> im trying to give it the free space
[10:15] <Name141> or should I figure out how to install it directly to the flash drive ?
[10:15] <Name141> instead of the LIVE version ?
[10:15] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Oh okay. In that case, just get the free space next to the Windows partition, and use any Windows-based tool to do what you need.
[10:16] <kholerabbi2> is it me, or if Juanty's Firefox missing "Set as image as wallpaper"???
[10:16] <tannersummers> tiyowan fccf looky http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/Tanner2007/Screenshot-1.png
[10:17] <amdfan> hi guys does ubuntu 9.04 have support for sse4 and 3dnow mx instruction sets ( i want to use it in a rendering farm)
[10:17] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Ehehehe. Your unallocated space is -inside- your extended primary partition.
[10:17] <Gamarok__> is 9.10 going to be l.t.s
[10:17] <whazilla> [Cbea leg
[10:17] <tannersummers> ya ur telling me...
[10:17] <Flannel> Gamarok__: No.  10.04 is scheduled to be.
[10:18] <indus> Gamarok__: no
[10:18] <Gamarok__> oh thanks Flannel
[10:18] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Okay. Let me think a minute.
[10:18] <tannersummers> =[ there should be a way easier way to do this crap
[10:19] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Ok, do this. Select /dev/sda4, and shrink it. That should squeeze all that unallocated space out of the extended partition.
[10:19] <tannersummers> it does but does it on other side of windows partition lol
[10:19] <Jasa> If someone would really care about the l.t.s they would be still running those older versions for couple years now still.
[10:20] <fccf> tannersummers:  after looking at ss ... what tiyowan said but push the partition to the end instead of the beginning
[10:20] <tiyowan> tannersummers: That's all right. Right now we need to get it outside the extended partition first.
[10:20] <tannersummers> idk how i tryed
[10:20] <yokobr> fccf, its an early development project... not even google has much answers for it..
[10:20] <Jasa> But as noticed most people only want the newest software cause of additional features and support that wasn't before.
[10:20] <Flannel> Jasa: They are.
[10:20] <fccf> yokobr: sorry beyond my skillz
[10:21] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Just shrink the /dev/sda4, take a screenshot and throw us the link. We'll guide you through the next part of it. Remember to leave some unallocated space in there for the swap partition.
[10:21] <stpr> I'm looking for an alternative to the Mycar-monitor for ubuntu. Does anyone knows something?
[10:21] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Actually, don't touch /dev/sda6, just shrink /dev/sda4.
[10:22] <fccf> tannersummers: shrink /dev/sda4 with the blank space at the beginning
[10:22] <Jasa> Someone planning on dual booting ?
[10:22] <tannersummers> wont let me shrink it
[10:22] <Jasa> tanner i would assume then. =)
[10:23] <tiyowan> tannersummers: What? It doesn't let you resize /dev/sda4?
[10:23] <Jasa> tanner, if you have windows installed there and won't allow you to shrink do a defrag on hd.
[10:23] <tannersummers> lol
[10:23] <indus> tannersummers: you need a shrink :P
[10:24] <tannersummers> just great
[10:24] <tiyowan> Jasa: His unallocated space is inside his extended partition. Windows can't see it - defragging won't make a difference atm.
[10:24] <Rigongia> Jasa : my system is dual booting right now :)
[10:24] <tannersummers> gave space to sda5 and says all fo its used up so i cant shrink it
[10:24] <Jasa> I see.
[10:25] <fccf> tannersummers: delete linux-swap... add deleted space to /dev/sda5... shrink /dev/sda5 leaving empty space at beginning... then shrink /dev/sda4
[10:25] <tannersummers> i did do that
[10:25] <tannersummers> but now sda5
[10:25] <tannersummers> says 48 gb being used
[10:25] <tannersummers> so only let me shirnk it 1 gb
[10:25] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Can you put up a screenshot, please?
[10:25] <tannersummers> which idk how it got used it up 14 gb
[10:25] <AdvoWork> Hi there. on one of our servers we always ssh to it, using root, and perform any tasks etc. I know this is bad practice, so im going to create a series of users. whats the best way to go about this? 2 users will need admin type privalages without being able to destroy things?
[10:26] <tannersummers> ok give me sec
[10:27] <fccf> AdvoWork: use adduser to add users then add them to sudoers list in /etc/
[10:29] <fccf> AdvoWork: admin privalages allow destruct -- they say "you can't break linux if you are not root"
[10:31] <rj_d> So We cant embed the video in VLC in 9.04 rt??
[10:32] <tannersummers> just fking great
[10:32] <fccf> tannersummers: whats up?
[10:33] <tannersummers> compaw recoveyr partition got deleted
[10:33] <tannersummers> idk how i never clicked on it
[10:33] <fccf> tannersummers:  lets see a ss
[10:34] <tannersummers> k one sec
[10:34] <Talon^> i downloaded ubuntu 9, installed it on my laptop which is a toshiba satellite 1805-s204, and im stuck in 800x600.. theres no choice for 1024x768 which is its native resolution, so my screen isnt 100% used.. can someone help me?
[10:34] <omid8bimo> hi, i have an old server which ubuntu 7.10 is installed
[10:34] <omid8bimo> today i tried to install mysql
[10:35] <fccf> Talon^:  Please post lspci outupt to a pastebin
[10:35] <Myrtti> !gutsy | omid8bimo
[10:35] <Talon^> in a terminal?
[10:35] <tannersummers> fccf : as u can see somehow my ubuntu partition which was using only 14 gb somehow jumped to using 48 gb not allowing me to shrink it http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/Tanner2007/Screenshot-2.png
[10:35] <indus> !paste > Talon^
[10:35] <omid8bimo> but i can get anything. it says file did't found
[10:35] <tiyowan_> tannersummers: Sorry, I lagged out. What happened?
[10:36] <khadafi> hi, i am install a new package in ubuntu 8.10 but i have get some error : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m41e2418a
[10:36] <Talon^> http://pastebin.com/d625ec947
[10:36] <tannersummers> tiyowan someone my parttion is using up all my space so i cant shrink
[10:36] <tannersummers> *somehow
[10:36] <tiyowan_> tannersummers: Okay calm down. Is the swap partition still there?
[10:37] <golempje> can someone tell me: is there a fix for the TV-out to philips tv (oversized picture) yet?   (ubuntu 9)
[10:37] <tannersummers> no
[10:37] <Talon^> fccf, did you see my pastebin entry?
[10:37] <khadafi> hello
[10:37] <tiyowan_> tannersummers: Okay. And you still can't resize the extended partition?
[10:38] <tannersummers> no my ubuntu partiton was using 14gb now its using 48gb so i cant shrink so how the hell did that hapepn
[10:39] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Put up a pic and I'll take a look.
[10:39] <tannersummers> i did look up right before u said u lagged out
[10:39] <Talon^> fccf, i did the lspci and sent it to a pastebin: http://pastebin.com/d625ec947 now what?
[10:40] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Nah I don't see it. Okay. Do this. Select /dev/sda5 (your ubuntu partition) and shrink it.
[10:40] <fccf> Talon^:  Your video card is unsupported by the kernel - you may find relevant info in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=806835&highlight=Trident+XpiA1
[10:41] <fafaz> Hi all.. I have a problem with broken packages. can't fix it :(
[10:41] <tannersummers> tiyowan I cant, it was only using up 14gb out of 15 gb so i gave it space to get closer to my partition then now it has aobut 5o gb and saying ITS USING like 49 gb, so I can only shrink aobut 1 gb which how the hgell did the space go up?
[10:41] <tiyowan> tannersummers: wth.
[10:41] <tannersummers> thats what i said
[10:42] <tannersummers> i may have to delete all the work i did on my ubuntu partiton and reinstall it =[
[10:42] <fafaz> anybody can help?
[10:42] <Myrtti> omid8bimo: did you check the information ubottu gave you?
[10:42] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Try rebooting off the live cd.
[10:42] <Myrtti> fafaz: just ask
[10:42] <Name141> !nvidia
[10:42] <tannersummers> ok brb guys
[10:42] <millertime> hi I just upgraded to jaunty with a fresh install everything works except skype, any ideas?
[10:42] <AdvoWork> fccf, what do you mean, admin is no good either?
[10:43] <fafaz> broken dependency package.. what should I do to fix it? I can't even update my system. I can't Add/Remove programs
[10:43] <indus> millertime: what do u mean skype doenst work
[10:43] <Fzang> does nautilus control my default applications or is that done by some other part of the system?
[10:44] <fccf> AdvoWork: giving sudo priv to user allows them to do anything a root user could do .. except it requires them to verify their pw
[10:44] <omid8bimo> Myrtti: yeah :(
[10:44] <millertime> indus: I get the error message "audio playback does not work" when I try to make a call
[10:44] <fafaz> the broken packages are: openoffice.org-style-human and openoffice.org-writer
[10:45] <geezer> Hello everyone~
[10:45] <AdvoWork> fccf, whats the best thing to do then?
[10:45] <khadafi> help me please,http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m41e2418a if i am try install a new package
[10:46] <indus> fafaz: in terminal type sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:46] <fccf> AdvoWork: depends on what you need those users to do
[10:46] <indus> millertime: go to skype preferences audio > set audio device to pulse
[10:46] <geezer> Does anyone know if the .deb for Cinepaint is safe to install on Ubuntu 9.04 (ext4) ?? .... It's not in the repos and the cinepaint site mentioned some problem with ubuntu.
[10:46] <indus> millertime: audio output i mean
[10:47] <fafaz> I'm getting an error when trying to remove them using synaptic package manager. the error is: Package is in a very ban inconsistent state
[10:48] <Lol> lol
[10:48] <rikki_max> fafaz: try in terminal sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:48] <Guest97718> ger ?
[10:49] <tannersummers> no luck
[10:49] <tannersummers> says all space is used up
[10:49] <fccf> tannersummers: try mounting ubu drive then unmounting it then restart gparted
[10:49] <tiyowan> tannersummers: What happened?
[10:50] <yokobr> hey guys, i cant find "sqlite-dev" and "mysql-dev" on apt =/
[10:50] <tannersummers> tiyowan still says its using up 48 gb of space so i cant shrink
[10:50] <clocKwize> hey
[10:50] <tannersummers> brb agian
[10:50] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Okay this is weird.
[10:50] <Talon^> fccf, i did what that site said, and i still have no bigger resolutions
[10:50] <Talon^> do i need to restart x?|
[10:50] <fccf> Talon^: yes
[10:51] <Talon^> ok
[10:51] <lstarnes> yokobr: try libsqlite-dev or libsqlite3-dev
[10:51] <fccf> AdvoWork: see my pm
[10:52] <millertime> indus: thank you
[10:52] <lstarnes> yokobr: also libmysqlclient-dev
[10:52] <indus> millertime: is it working
[10:52] <millertime> yeah
[10:52] <indus> cool
[10:52] <indus> :)()()
[10:52] <yokobr> lstarnes, its the same thing?
[10:52] <fafaz> no luck :(
[10:52] <lstarnes> yokobr: what is?
[10:52] <indus> fafaz: did you try that command i gave you in terminal
[10:53] <maxagaz_> what does 'rc' mean before a package when running apt-cache search ?
[10:53] <yokobr> well, not even libsqlite-dev
[10:53] <indus> fafaz: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:53] <fafaz> yes
[10:53] <indus> fafaz: what message did u get
[10:53] <Talon^> fccf, i restarted.. still no larger modes
[10:53] <fafaz> in terminal: some index files failed to download ....
[10:54] <fccf> Talon^: Reccommend further reading on ubuntuforums
[10:54] <yokobr> lstarnes, i've found libsqlite3-dev... but i still need mysql-devel
[10:54] <tannersummers> back'
[10:54] <Talon^> theres nothing more on that page
[10:54] <fccf> tannersummers: ok and
[10:54] <tannersummers> nothing changed
[10:54] <linny> on a default install of ubuntu 9.04 with an ati rv630 chip what driver will be in use on bootup also anyone got any ideas why my xorg.conf is blank ?
[10:54] <tannersummers> i migth jsut deleted my whole partition and work a whole day pputting it all back :(
[10:54] <fccf> tannersummers: run a check on the ubu partition
[10:55] <indus> fafaz: cat /etc/apt/sources.list paste it using pastebin
[10:55] <tannersummers> how? i mean where did over 30 gb just come out of no where being used up
[10:55] <indus> !paste > fafaz
[10:55] <Talon^> dang, i guess im going to haveto install open-suse again to get my screen to fill out :/
[10:55] <erUSUL> linny: probably the free radeon driver. newest xorg releases do not need an xorg and figure out what they need at runtime. they abey it if present
[10:55] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Okay, so let me get this straight.
[10:55] <fafaz> in Add/Remove: Failed to check for installed and available application. and it suggest sudo apt-get install -f
[10:55] <fccf> tannersummers:  right click on ubu partition ... check
[10:55] <yokobr> lstarnes, i'm trying to compile Envira, but now i'm getting "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient" error, because i dont have "mysql-dev"
[10:55] <Vonoff> morning
[10:55] <tiyowan> tannersummers: /dev/sda1 is 180 gigs right?
[10:56] <lstarnes> yokobr: you probably want libmysqlclient15-dev or similar
[10:56] <linny> erUSUL: any ideas how to setup a dual head on the open driver the fglrx is giving me headaches
[10:56] <rikki_max> anyone know of bugs in libiptcdata0 package?
[10:56] <tannersummers> ubuntu partiton had 15 gb and was ONLY 14gb used up, i deleted swap and added the space to ubuntu partiton so i can move it up, but now that 40 gb i added to ubuntu parttion is being used up by the partition, i mean how is that possible
[10:56] <bleepbleep> guys
[10:56] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Then you've got /dev/sda4 (extended) inside of which is /dev/sda5 using 40 gig
[10:56] <Vonoff> Does anyone have an idea what ubuntu uses to get previews of all the different image types in nautilus? (i'm looking for what ubuntu uses to get .dds files previewed in nautilus)
[10:57] <bleepbleep> my sound doesn't work....it only works with headphones plugged in
[10:57] <bleepbleep> what is i to di
[10:57] <bleepbleep> to do
[10:57] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Okay and you can't resize sda4 right?
[10:57] <tannersummers> that and sda5
[10:57] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Okay.
[10:57] <tannersummers> since somehow 30 gb just came out of no where and is beiung used up
[10:57] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Yeah.
[10:58] <ddanat> hey guys. got a question. Alsa thinks it's working (looks normal, acts normal, etc.) however I get completely no sound. I dunno if microphone indeed works, can't test that. But alsa is "acting" like it works, but I get no sound output whatever.
[10:58] <tiyowan> tannersummers: open up a terminal and type this: umount /dev/sda5, then try.
[10:58] <yokobr> lstarnes, i'll try it now
[10:58] <fccf> tannersummers:  boot into your ubuntu system.. then shutdown..restart and boot into live disk
[10:58] <erUSUL> !xinerama | linny
[10:58] <fafaz> !paste
[10:58] <fccf> tannersummers:  that should reset the drive
[10:58] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Actually, yeah. Do what fccf said. Take out the CD, restart and boot into the Ubuntu that's installed on your hard disk.
[10:59] <tannersummers> i just did that
[10:59] <tannersummers> and same crap
[10:59] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Okay, here's something else you can do.
[10:59] <tannersummers> omg
[10:59] <fafaz> pastebin
[10:59] <tannersummers> omg finally
[10:59] <ddanat> anybody have an idea about my alsa problem?
[11:00] <tannersummers> who said to use "check"
[11:00] <tannersummers> ?
[11:00] <linny> will sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server create a teplate xorg.conf for me to mess around with or will it stay blank
[11:00] <clocKwize> guys, i want to get rid of the gnome-panels panel at the top of my screen (i'm using awn with lots of applets etc instead) but i can't find any way to get rid of it? even if i go as far as killing the process, it pops right back up :)
[11:00] <fafaz> indus: how to paste ?
[11:00] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Ehehehe.
[11:00] <tannersummers> ok im take ss
[11:00] <tiyowan> tannersummers: fsck fixed it huh?
[11:00] <tannersummers> u guys tell me what to do from there hold on
[11:00] <shadeslayer> clocKwize: kpid <pid>
[11:00] <tannersummers> the right click on sda5 or we/e and click check worked
[11:01] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Okay. Tell us what /sda4, /sda5 looks like right now.
[11:01] <clocKwize> shadeslayer: will i have to do that every time i load?
[11:01] <clocKwize> can't i just turn it off somewhere
[11:01] <tannersummers> fccf
[11:01] <Talon^> fccf, thanks for the help, but im going back to suse. it defaulted in 1024x768
[11:01] <tannersummers> god, school in 3 hours
[11:01] <shadeslayer> clocKwize: i dont think you can turn it off :)
[11:02] <fccf> tannersummers:  i am here
[11:02] <maxagaz_> what does 'rc' and 'ii' mean before a package when running dpkg -l ?
[11:02] <tannersummers> the check on parttion thing worked
[11:02] <clocKwize> shadeslayer: thats sucky..
[11:02] <indus> fafaz: just copy output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin.ubuntu.com
[11:02] <fafaz> indus: I did
[11:02] <tannersummers> now fccf and tiyowan what do i do now http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/Tanner2007/Temp/Screenshot-1.png
[11:02] <indus> paste the link here
[11:02] <shadeslayer> clocKwize: i kinda keep the panel and AWN :)
[11:02] <fafaz> indus: I did
[11:03] <indus> where
[11:03] <Severian> maxagaz_  rc would be release candidate
[11:03] <indus> can u paste it again sorry i was away
[11:03] <fafaz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/185527/
[11:03] <fafaz> indus: you see it?
[11:03] <indus> yah
[11:04] <fccf> tannersummers: when you shrink drag the data all the way to the right so the empty space is at the beginning of the partition
[11:04] <tannersummers> ok
[11:04] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Shrink /dev/sda5.
[11:04] <indus> fafaz: what does sudo apt-get update give u
[11:04] <zortec> Hi guys, still have not been able to install ubuntu.  It drops me to a busybox.  Can anyone help?
[11:04] <shadeslayer> clocKwize: just checking it on the forums....
[11:04] <tiyowan> tannersummers: And drag from the left of sda5, so that you get unallocated space at the beginning - before sda5.
[11:04] <tannersummers> they should make it so u can just click and move it around huh
[11:05] <fccf> zortec: you may have a bad copy
[11:05] <nixedreport> @zortec: Try using vesa mode.
[11:05] <shadeslayer> clocKwize: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405721
[11:05] <fccf> tannersummers: would be nice
[11:05] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Be thankful we're still not using fdisk. ;)
[11:05] <zortec> fccf: I have tried burning the ISO three times.  Also tried safe graphics and the bugfix pci=nomsi and I can't get the installer to load.
[11:05] <zortec> It's so frustrating...
[11:06] <nixedreport> @zortec: try turning acpi off.
[11:06] <tannersummers> whats fdisk anyways tiyowan?
[11:06] <zortec> I tried that to in the modes.  I didn't turn acpi off in the bios.
[11:06] <AndroidData> is this the right place to ask about jailkit?
[11:06] <nixedreport> Not the BIOS.
[11:06] <nixedreport> Just the options.
[11:06] <fafaz> indus: I have 2 broken packages. openoffice.org-writer and openoffice.org-human-style. sudo apt-get update Failed to fetch ...
[11:07] <nixedreport> And disable APIC as well.
[11:07] <fccf> tannersummers: fdisk is a partition editor in win and linux .... both commandline
[11:07] <tannersummers> yikes....
[11:07] <tiyowan> tannersummers: It's a command-line partition editor.
[11:07]  * tannersummers still waits
[11:07] <fccf> tannersummers: it takes along time to resize
[11:07] <zortec> nixedreport: I have turned on safe graphics and off apci, but when I click on "Install Ubuntu" I get a busybox so I don't know if I have a bad CD or what is going on.
[11:08] <indus> fafaz: go to synaptic and go to edit/fix broken packages
[11:08] <shadeslayer> zortec: md5 check maybe
[11:08] <AndroidData> I'm using jailkit in order to create a secure environment. The 'root' user spawns a process which changes user and chroots to the jail. However, the home directory doesn't change -- typing in 'set' tells me that HOME = /root instead of /home/myUser
[11:09] <fafaz> indus: I did.. I'm getting error: Package in very bad inconsistent state
[11:09] <tannersummers> tiyowan and fccf
[11:09] <indus> fafaz: ok wait a min
[11:09] <fccf> AndroidData: this is the ubuntu support channel -- not the android support channel
[11:10] <zortec> shadeslayer: I checked the md5 hash, can't check the integrity of the CD because it takes me to a busybox again
[11:10] <fccf> tannersummers: what's up?
[11:10] <bullgard4> What does mean the entry 'closed' in /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/sub0/status?
[11:10] <tiyowan> tannersummers: ?
[11:10] <zortec> I just want to get the installer loaded to a point where I can install ubuntu.
[11:10] <tannersummers> fccf and tiyowan if this does work then THANK U GUYS SO FKING MUCH =]
[11:10] <zortec> Been trying to get ubuntu installed all day.
[11:10] <shadeslayer> zortec: how about checking from your native OS??
[11:10] <tannersummers> id be screwed right now lol
[11:10] <nixedreport> @zortec: Did you get the other messages I sent you?
[11:11] <fccf> tannersummers: tell me about it ... I have been there, thats why I help where I can
[11:11] <zortec> nixedreport: I just got them :)
[11:11] <AndroidData> fccf: well, the OS is Ubuntu... :p
[11:11] <indus> fafaz: try this sudo dpkg install -f openoffice-writer
[11:11] <fccf> AndroidData: On the G1
[11:11] <tiyowan> tannersummers: No worries - I can understand your frustration. Partitioning can be nightmarish.
[11:11] <tannersummers> guys i wonder about this
[11:11] <clocKwize> shadeslayer: ah, nice one.. thanks
[11:12] <clocKwize> i looked on forum but didn't raelly know what to search for
[11:12] <indus> fafaz: oops wrrong command
[11:12] <shadeslayer> clocKwize: np
[11:12] <tannersummers> when u do apt-get install <program name>
[11:12] <tannersummers> where r u getting it from?
[11:12] <tannersummers> is there like a master server were all linux programs are on?
[11:12] <indus> fafaz: try this sudo apt-get install -f openoffice-writer
[11:12] <fccf> tannersummers:  the same place synaptic gets it from... repos usually us.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:13] <shadeslayer> tannersummers: yes..they are called repos
[11:13] <tiyowan> tannersummers: From the repositories. Yeah, each distribution of linux has their own servers, where they store the repositories of all the programs.
[11:13] <tannersummers> nice...
[11:13] <shadeslayer> !repo | tannersummers
[11:14] <fccf> AndroidData: if you are logged in as root it will show ~/ as /root ... if you are logged in as user  ~/ is /home/user
[11:14] <fafaz> indus: dpkg: need an action option
[11:14] <indus> wait
[11:14] <indus> fafaz: 1 min
[11:15] <indus> fafaz: try this sudo apt-get install -f openoffice-writer
[11:16] <indus> fafaz: if it doenst work , remove the package from synaptic using broken packages filter
[11:16] <fafaz> indus: it doesnt work. My problem is I can't remove the package from synaptic!!
[11:17] <indus> ok
[11:17] <AndroidData> fccf: but if PAM is somehow unavailable, it won't know which home directory I have!
[11:17] <fafaz> indus: I'm stuck with this problem from weeks
[11:17] <Fzang> Can anyone help me? I can't install from source. It just won't let me??
[11:17] <AndroidData> I got it
[11:17] <AndroidData> sort-of
[11:17] <indus> fafaz: can u give me the names of the packages again
[11:18] <fafaz> indus: openoffice.org-writer
[11:18] <indus> fafaz: in synaptic when u right click on that package what options do u get
[11:18] <fccf> AndroidData: my expierence with the android devel is that it is all sort-of
[11:18] <fafaz> indus: mark for removal and mark for completely remove
[11:19] <jolanka> hi all
[11:19] <indus> fafaz: try this sudo apt-get clean
[11:19] <jolanka> im using 9.04 and have a thinkpad z61p with a mobility firegl v5200 (Chipset: ATI M56 - Similar to Radeon X1600). im having problems installing the right video driver since i found out that new fglrx drivers no longer support my card, and also new xorg-servers dont support older fglrx drivers
[11:19] <fafaz> indus: and I've tries both with no luck
[11:19] <jolanka> what drivers should i use ?
[11:19] <jolanka> what should i do ? please help
[11:20] <fafaz> indus: ok I did
[11:20] <indus> fafaz: after that step , sudo apt-get update
[11:20] <tiyowan> jolanka: I'm not sure, but I think you need to use the open-source drivers.
[11:20] <janmejay> can't get irb on Ubuntu, have ruby1.8 installed
[11:20] <jolanka> tiyowan radeonhd ?
[11:20] <jolanka> tiyowan how do i install that ?
[11:20] <janmejay> does anyone know if its broken?
[11:20] <bin4ry> hi together
[11:21] <tiyowan> jolanka: Well - you can do it from System -> Administration I believe.
[11:21] <fccf> tannersummers: how we doin?
[11:21] <janmejay> is irb not available via package manager(ubuntu official repositories on hardy?
[11:22] <bin4ry> just upgraded vmware to a new version. Now it complains about missing header files. 'uname -a' revealed that i am using 2'.6.27-11-generic'. After looking for linux-headers in synaptic, i found the package linux-headers-generic. But this package installs header files for kernel 2.6.28.11.15. Cant find haders for my version.
[11:23] <fafaz> indus: do you see anything wrong in my source.lis ?
[11:23] <indus> no
[11:24] <indus> fafaz: did u do a apt get update
[11:24] <Name141> Hello, my NIC 'twinkles' at the router (as I have complained before).  However, I just loaded up the live disk and noticed if I remove and then modprobe e1000e, eth0 will become avalable again.  (Until my router or modem resets).  Is there anyway to make a bug report?
[11:24] <Name141> or should I forget it?
[11:24] <tiyowan> jolanka: Yep version 1.2.4 of the radeonhd driver is included in Jaunty and it should work fine.
[11:24] <audigy7x> hi
[11:25] <fafaz> indus: yes.. it's Hit(ing) and Get(ing) and Ign
[11:25] <indus> fafaz: what?
[11:26] <fafaz> indus: yes I did update.. it's working
[11:26] <alejandro> can someone tell me why i have sound on everything  but my web browser?
[11:26] <indus> cool
[11:26] <indus> fafaz: problem solved then
[11:26] <Name141> if I restart the modem or the router, it will lose connection and stay lost
[11:26] <Name141> Then it will start blinking again at the router , and never get a connection
[11:26] <Name141> till I remove and then modprobe the e1000e module
[11:26] <tiyowan> alejandro: Does the flash plug-in work?
[11:26] <indus> fafaz: now sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:26] <fafaz> indus: it seems to be solved.. thank you very much
[11:26] <indus> fafaz: yeah i know :)
[11:26] <fafaz> indus: BUT wait
[11:27] <alejandro> tiyowan, i can watch youtube videos just no sound
[11:27] <indus> fafaz: ok tell me
[11:27] <AndroidData> what does the "su" command need in order to work (except a valid user and password)
[11:27] <alejandro> nor any videos regarding flash..web browser..
[11:27] <zortec> Where do you add boot options like "break=mount" on the live CD?
[11:27] <AndroidData> for me, I try to "su myUser" and it does nothing... I'm still root
[11:27] <indus> AndroidData: type exit at terminal
[11:28] <tiyowan> alejandro: Hmm, are you using 9.04?
[11:28] <alejandro> yes jaunty
[11:28] <fafaz> indus: Some index files failed to download, the have been ignored or old ones used instead. and also Failed to fetch some ..
[11:28] <indus> fafaz: thats all normal
[11:28] <indus> fafaz: do a sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:29] <koshari> Name141 its prolly just loading the wrong module for the card
[11:29] <indus> fafaz: some repositories are down probably
[11:29] <tiyowan> alejandro: One moment please.
[11:29] <fafaz>  indus: Unmet dependecy
[11:29] <indus> fafaz: for which package
[11:29] <alejandro> tiyowan: ok
[11:29]  * fccf desprately needs sleep ... I am going to bed ... Good luck all... I will be back in 6 hours for more slugging it out ... tannersummers if you still need help see me after class
[11:29] <tiyowan> alejandro: Are you trying to use a USB headset? Or have you got two sound cards in your system?
[11:29] <Name141> koshari: how? it's the same one
[11:29] <Name141> koshari: I tried e1000 , and it didn't work
[11:29] <fafaz> indus: all are regarding to openoffice
[11:30] <Name141> koshari: I removed e1000 and modprobed' e1000e again , and it came back alive
[11:30] <indus> fafaz: did u install open office from outside?
[11:30] <fafaz> no
[11:30] <Name141> koshari: I didn't have this nonsense in Hardy
[11:30] <alejandro> i am using SB Live! 24-bit External sound card, no usb headset just speakers
[11:30] <koshari> Name141 rebuild initramfs as the its prolly loading a different module in the bootstrap process
[11:30] <indus> fafaz: does open office work on ur ssystem
[11:30] <Name141> koshari: initwho
[11:30] <alejandro> my sound card is usb external
[11:30] <koshari> Name141 if thats the issue of course
[11:30] <indus> fafaz: now do a sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:31] <Name141> koshari: I did lsmod , and it showed e1000e
[11:31] <tiyowan> alejandro: How many devices do you see when you type "aplay -1" in the console?
[11:31] <koshari> Name141 i had a similar issue with a pc loading e100 in
[11:31] <fafaz> indus: no.. now I did sudo apt-get -f upgrade
[11:31]  * tannersummers still waits and looks at clock, and thinks should I still go to school? hmmm
[11:31] <Name141> koshari: Hardy used e1000e
[11:31] <Name141> koshari: So what broke between the LTS and now ?
[11:31] <indus> fafaz: now do a sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:32] <indus> fafaz: is it showing broken packages in system?
[11:32] <fafaz> indus: cancel the current operation?
[11:32] <fccf> tannersummers: Isn't this like school in so many ways
[11:32] <indus> fafaz: no let it finish
[11:32] <koshari> Name141 i wouldnt know iam just going of my experiance which sounds similar.
[11:32] <Kiyiko> so, i am trying to get custom refresh rate, but this is what my xorg.conf is: http://pastebin.com/m70c95924 ----i am unsure of what/how to do it
[11:32] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Take the day off.
[11:32] <alejandro> it says invalid option whey i type aplay -1 in console
[11:32] <indus> !patience
[11:32] <Name141> koshari: OK
[11:33] <fccf> alehandro: it is L not 1
[11:33] <tiyowan> alejandro: Ah my mistake, "aplay -l"
[11:33] <indus> damn
[11:33] <indus> patience is a virtue
[11:33] <tannersummers> tiyowan ya i migth asd well the type of school im in dont really care about that
[11:33] <alejandro> lol ok
[11:33] <tannersummers> half the class shwos up like once a month and nothing happens
[11:33] <fafaz> indus: I have to wait until the current operation finished then check if there is any broken
[11:33] <tannersummers> to them
[11:33] <indus> fafaz: yeah
[11:33] <fafaz> indus: it'll take 2 min :)
[11:33] <tannersummers> and i mean hell less then 2 weeks before school gets out
[11:34] <alejandro> tiyowan: may i PM you the results?
[11:34] <fccf> !paste | alejandro
[11:34] <koshari> Name141 time to time it appears initramfs changes the modules it loads, you can try rebuilding your initram see the first post here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=810125
[11:34] <tannersummers> !kubuntu
[11:34] <alejandro> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[11:34] <alejandro> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC883 Analog [ALC883 Analog]
[11:34] <alejandro>   Subdevices: 0/1
[11:34] <alejandro>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[11:34] <alejandro> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC883 Digital [ALC883 Digital]
[11:34] <FloodBot2> alejandro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:34] <alejandro>   Subdevices: 1/1
[11:35] <tiyowan> alejandro: alejandro: Use pastebin; that way, all of us can look at the problem.
[11:35] <tannersummers> !suse
[11:35] <tannersummers> u guys think SUSE is the best out of thsoe others? it looks like it to me
[11:35] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Depends really on what you want out of your distro.
[11:36] <fccf> tannersummers: owned by novell ... i like canonical
[11:36] <tannersummers> there a site that mianly tells ua bout each one?
[11:36] <fccf> tannersummers: linux.org
[11:36] <alejandro> sorry i am kinda new to this, how do i use pastebin?
[11:36] <indus> !pastebin
[11:36] <alejandro> !pastebin
[11:36] <indus> alejandro: just paste the url here
[11:37] <tiyowan> alejandro: You go to paste.ubuntu.com, paste your output -there- and give us the link here.
[11:37] <alejandro> oh ok
[11:37] <alejandro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/185555/
[11:38] <X-TaZ> Hello. I'm looking for the location of gpg keys for ppa to download
[11:39] <tannersummers> fccf tiyowan
[11:39] <tannersummers> http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/Tanner2007/Screenshot-3.png now wat
[11:39] <alejandro> tiyowan: did you receive it/
[11:40] <tiyowan> alejandro: That I did.
[11:40] <alejandro> ok
[11:40] <GhostWolf76> hey all don't know if im in the right chan.. prob not but im looking for the folder where themes/styles are located in kubuntu
[11:41] <indus> fafaz: hello?
[11:41] <fafaz> indus: yes
[11:41] <fiasco> I need to find my machine on a LAN but I don't know the IP, I know what services run on (ports that are open), whats the fastest way to scan 192.168.2.[0-255] for the specific ports that will define my machine?
[11:41] <Bob1> hello
[11:41] <tiyowan> alejandro: Okay, I'm not certain about this, but let's try this.
[11:41] <indus> fafaz: so whats the status
[11:41] <alejandro> k
[11:41] <tiyowan> alejandro: I want you to go into Add/Remove programs, and install the PulseAudio Device Chooser utility
[11:42] <Bob1> i am running a program through WINE and the program keeps losing its internet connection every 5 seconds then reganing it then losing it how do i fix this
[11:42] <grub_booter_> fiasco: might be a bit incomplete, but you can try: cat /proc/net/arp
[11:42] <tannersummers> i saw programs for virse scanners and firewalls, does ubutnu even need those?
[11:43] <Myrtti> carlosssss: do you need help?
[11:43] <alejandro> ok installed
[11:43] <fiasco> grub_booter_: this is over a vpn ;)
[11:43] <jrib> tannersummers: ubuntu doesn't, the user might.  It depends
[11:43] <Bob1> i am running a program through WINE and the program keeps losing its internet connection every 5 seconds then reganing it then losing it how do i fix this
[11:43] <fiasco> grub_booter_: plus there are 255 machines to filter through
[11:43] <tiyowan> alejandro: Okay, now you need to resize your sda4 partition. Drag it from the left so that you get space before the sda4 partition. Leave how much you need for your swap partition.
[11:43] <fafaz> indus: the problem is with the package openoffice.org-writer .. package in a very bad inconsistent state. you should reinstall it before attempt to remove. also, error code(1) /usr/sbin/dpkg
[11:43] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Okay, now you need to resize your sda4 partition. Drag it from the left so that you get space before the sda4 partition. Leave how much you need for your swap partition.
[11:43] <GhostWolf76> erm can someone tell me what the off-topic chan is?? don't know if its just plain off-topic or not
[11:43] <jrib> !ot | GhostWolf76
[11:44] <tiyowan> alejandro: Yikes. Ok.
[11:44] <alejandro> tiyowan: are you sure?
[11:44] <GhostWolf76> thanks jrib
[11:44] <alejandro> lol
[11:44] <indus> fafaz: sudo aptitude reinstall openoffice.org-writer
[11:44] <zortec> It doesn't look as though my graphics card is supported.  I added break=mount to the boot line and I get a yellow screen.  It is just blank. :(
[11:44] <fafaz> indus: but I don't have the option "Mark for reinstall" for openoffice.org-writer
[11:44] <zortec> I really want to install ubuntu too.
[11:44] <alejandro> tiyowan: so you think it will work now..
[11:44] <poq09> hi all, how can I check which dns server my computer is currently using? I updated the dns settings for my wireless connection in network manager but I want to be sure thy have taken effect
[11:44] <tiyowan> alejandro: Sorry about that. Right. Run it from Applications -> Sound and Video. Then left-click on its icon in the system tray and select Volume Control, please.
[11:45] <G_A_C> poq09, "nslookup"
[11:45] <fafaz> indus: executing your command
[11:45] <G_A_C> when you do a query, it'll tell you which server was used
[11:45] <grub_booter_> fiasco: well, no really fast way other than to locate all the valid ips and then try to connect on each at the port you want i guess - avahi-browse might report stuff which is published via upnp type stuff, but i doubt that it'll help with vpn...
[11:45] <zortec> Where is a list of video cards? I want to see if my integrated is supported or not
[11:45] <tiyowan> alejandro: From there you will be able to select the default card for input and output. In the output devices you need to set it to your card, and enable the default option.
[11:46] <alejandro> ah ok let me give it a try
[11:46] <fafaz> indus: it returns: Current status: 1 broken 13 updates
[11:46] <zortec> I also tried "safe graphics" mode but that didn't help
[11:46] <fiasco> grub_booter_: I'm using nmap '192.168.2.0/24 -p8984' so far, but its also returning closed ports
[11:46] <tiyowan> alejandro: Oh, and make sure that everything in System -> Preferences -> Sound is set to autodetect.
[11:46] <tannersummers> suse cost anything?
[11:47] <rikki_max> suse is opensource
[11:47] <tannersummers> kool
[11:47] <alejandro> tiyowan: what about sound capture?
[11:47] <poq09> G_A_C: thanks
[11:47] <fafaz> indus: is there a way to manually remove openoffice.org-writer? or is this will solve the problem?
[11:47] <alejandro> tiyowan: and default mixer tracks
[11:47] <tannersummers> do u guys have a guide to leanr about linux? like which files have which exstentions and how things run and etc?
[11:47] <zortec> Is there a way to manually install the driver so I can get the installer working?
[11:48] <X-TaZ> I'm getting error when I'm trying to retrieve the ppa public key on keyservers. http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xF872CE69295284EABADF2E2E5BD53107696280BA&op=index is "Connexion time out" Is it from everywhere or only from my network ?
[11:48] <tiyowan> alejandro: Is that in the Device Chooser? Leave those alone for now.
[11:48] <bezoeker> hi there
[11:48] <Slart> tannersummers: try the ubuntu handbook.. hang on.. let me find the url for you
[11:48] <tiyowan> tannersummers: There are a lot of resources available. Linux.com, the Linux Documentation Project, linuxcommand.org, the Linux Reality podcast, etc.
[11:49] <alejandro> tiyowan: so what exactly should i configure in PulseAudio Applet?
[11:49] <tannersummers> =]
[11:49] <tiyowan> alejandro: Output device.
[11:49] <grub_booter_> fiasco: well, i have some python code which does like multiprocess pings via a popen and a select to find machines - it returns all the valid ip addresses and then attempts to access various ports on those - hardly ideal, but more or less cross platform and doesn't rely on privilege escalation :-)
[11:49] <bezoeker> i installed ubuntu and created an user "guest" how would i get it so that on next login all is as it was on the first login, that is an clean home dir etc?
[11:49] <zortec> Can anyone help out please?
[11:49] <Slart> tannersummers: http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com
[11:49] <tannersummers> ty
[11:50] <fafaz> indus: what will happen if I remove the directory /usr/lib/openoffice ?
[11:50] <tannersummers> slart i may need u aks u for that lnik agian soon :P im runnign fof cd and cant save it on my other partitions :P
[11:50] <felix__> hi ppl
[11:51] <Slart> tannersummers: shesh.. I have no idea what you just said
[11:51] <alejandro> tiyowan: oh wow my card is muted
[11:51] <tannersummers> lol sorry, im half alseep
[11:51] <fafaz> indus: hello?
[11:52] <tiyowan> alejandro: No dice, huh? Okay, change it back then. Hmm.
[11:52] <indus> ya
[11:52] <alejandro> tiyowan: wait i cant tell if i am unmuting it or not lol
[11:52] <tiyowan> alejandro: You did try logging out and loggin in before checking right?
[11:52] <indus> fafaz: dont
[11:52] <fafaz> indus: ok, sir
[11:53] <indus> fafaz: hmm u still getting same error then
[11:53] <fafaz> yup
[11:53] <gorbierd> hey
[11:53] <tiyowan> alejandro: Incidentally, did you -upgrade- to jaunty?
[11:54] <alejandro> yes
[11:54] <tiyowan> alejandro: Uh-oh.
[11:54] <zortec> Does anyone have any ideas?
[11:54] <indus> fafaz: sudo aptitude remove openoffice.org-writer
[11:54] <alejandro> tiyowan: actually no i did a fresh install
[11:54] <gorbierd> how do i find grep with -r in some kind of files i do [grep -r -i href=\"http:\/\/www\.morizo\.ru/\" *.template] but got no such file or dir of course no, it's on subdir
[11:55] <prosoma> hello, does anyone by chance have the lastest (2.9) reconstructor package? it's homepage has been offline for a couple of days
[11:55] <wraith0x2b> If my machine has no cdrom..what are my install options?
[11:55] <Slart> zortec: ideas about what? if you're going to repeat just repeat the entire question.. on one line
[11:55] <alejandro> tiyowan: brb gonna restart
[11:55] <tiyowan> alejandro: Okay.
[11:55] <fafaz> indus: seems worked
[11:55] <zortec> Slart: How do I get ubuntu installed? It does not like my graphics card.
[11:55] <Slart> wraith0x2b: usb.. or install to the hard drive while it's connected to another computer
[11:55] <flintwingel> wraith0x2b: you could use a USB thumbdrive or network boot if your PC supports PXE boot
[11:55] <wraith0x2b> Slart, it's a laptop..
[11:55] <indus> fafaz: what worked
[11:55] <zortec> I have been working on this for 2 days.  It's very frustrating I should add.
[11:56] <wraith0x2b> flintwingel, how would I go about with that network boot?
[11:56] <tiyowan> zortec: What graphics card do you have?
[11:56] <wraith0x2b> any chance I could install it using let's say an already installed linux?
[11:56] <zortec> tiyowan: NVIDIA 610i/7300 chipset
[11:56] <Slart> zortec: mm.. I know what you mean.. sometimes people just ask questions without giving any kind of details.. my poor poor blood pressure
[11:56] <felix__> zortec, whats your card?
[11:56] <fafaz> indus: I did sudo aptitude remove openoffice.org-writer with no errors
[11:56] <flintwingel> wraith0x2b: to do a network install you will need another machine to boot from
[11:56] <zortec> I can't get the installer to work at all with it.
[11:57] <fafaz> indus: but sitll, the broken package appears in Synaptic
[11:57] <Kiy> i am trying to set my refresh rate to 75, but it will only allow 60 at this resolution, how do i add a custom one?
[11:57] <wraith0x2b> flintwingel, soudns kind of hard...and I left my usb stick at home...damn...
[11:57] <Slart> wraith0x2b: I've also seen some people installing by writing the install cd to a hard drive partition, then booting from that..
[11:57] <zortec> I turned off apci and used "safe graphics" mode.  If I add "break=mount" I get a yellow screen of death.
[11:58] <felix__> zortec, i think there is an alternate text install. hit ESC after setting languaje of livecd boot, or check the options
[11:58] <wraith0x2b> Slart, hm...no extra partition..only the one where I plan on installing it
[11:58] <Slart> wraith0x2b: but if I were you I would get an external usb cd/dvd reader and use that
[11:58] <tiyowan> zortec: Getting that card to run will be -challenging-.
[11:58] <zortec> felix__ The alternate text install doesn't recognize my cdrom
[11:58] <wraith0x2b> external soudns nice but I don;t have one :(
[11:58] <zortec> I'm not sure where to get a driver for that
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[11:58] <wraith0x2b> I have grub..maybe I can use it to boot the iso?!
[11:58] <wraith0x2b> lol
[11:58] <spork>     FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!           FAGS!
[11:59] <FloodBot2> spork: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:59] <felix__> !ops
[11:59] <NishaKitty> what's +z hehe?
[11:59] <alejandro> fixed!
[11:59] <tiyowan> zortec: [#ubuntu]: zortec:
[11:59] <zortec> tiyowan: It has been very challenging.  I've been at it for 2 days.
[11:59] <alejandro> thank you tiyowan
[11:59] <zortec> I just wish it would work. *sigh*
[12:00] <tiyowan> alejandro: You're getting sound in Flash?
[12:00] <alejandro> yes
[12:00] <tiyowan> zortec: One moment, please.
[12:00] <alejandro> it works
[12:00] <tiyowan> alejandro: There you go. :)
[12:00] <fafaz> indus: anything else could I do ?
[12:01] <tiyowan> zortec: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-kernel-common/+bug/195139 - This is a confirmed bug. I'd doubt you'd be able to get your card working with any of the other distributions as well, like Kubuntu or Fedora.
[12:01] <funkyHat> If anyone sees Loganhoup come in here and ask for me, could you get him to email me (or memo me). Cheers
[12:01] <zortec> tiyowan: So am I out of luck?
[12:01] <tannersummers> god this taking forever
[12:02] <felix__> zortek try downloading ubuntu minimal
[12:02] <tiyowan> zortec: I'm afraid so. Pop down to the store and get another card.
[12:02] <felix__> zortek it only have a text install that works for sure
[12:02] <zortec> felix__ What is minimal?
[12:02] <ForeverSmurf> anyone know how to configure apache under ubuntu to run different virtual hosts as a different user:group
[12:03] <rikki_max> foreversmruk: do uk wat ispcp is it might do it
[12:03] <fafaz> indus: pls advice
[12:03] <tiyowan> zortec: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-kernel-common/+bug/195139 - This is a confirmed bug. I'd doubt you'd be able to get your card working with any of the other distributions as well, like Kubuntu or Fedora
[12:03] <felix__> zortec, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[12:03] <tiyowan> zortec: Hang on. Check out the link I gave you. There's some comments in that about some workarounds. Look into those.
[12:03] <zortec> I was reading the comments, but don't I need a working system first?
[12:03] <ForeverSmurf> rikki_max, could re rephrase that... I can't understand a word ;-)
[12:04] <zortec> I can't get the installer program going.
[12:04] <felix__> zortek then you add the packages using apt or aptitude. i really prefer doing that, as there are lots of packages that the ubuntu default uses
[12:04] <felix__> that i dont need
[12:04] <tiyowan> zortec: You need to do it the hard way with the minimal install that felix__ pointed out to you.
[12:04] <zortec> tiyowan: I don't like how you say hard way...
[12:04] <rikki_max> ispcp (join #ispcp for more info) is a control panel for website hosting. it does all configuring for u i am not sure it will do wat u want but check on #ispcp
[12:04] <zortec> tiyowan: It has already been hard up to this point. :P
[12:05] <indus> fafaz: hi
[12:05] <FSHero> Hello all; can anyone help me with an Ekiga VoIP problem? It involves trying to make my router with symmetric NAT appear to Ekiga as a cone NAT.
[12:05] <tiyowan> zortec: Personally, I'd just get another card.
[12:05] <fafaz> indus: ya
[12:05] <indus> fafaz: 1  sec
[12:05] <pshr> what does this mean how can i remove it
[12:05] <pshr> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
[12:05] <indus> fafaz:u cant delete open office i believe
[12:05] <zortec> tiyowan: I intend to actually, was going to pick up a NVIIDA 7900
[12:05] <fafaz> indus: what to do???
[12:05] <indus> fafaz: do a sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:05] <FSHero> Basically, I've tried to enter the ports in my router web-based control panel, but the echo test in Ekiga still doesn't work.
[12:06] <felix__> zortec, its not hard. you can justt write down what programs does ubuntu have and install all from the repos in one apt line. they will be 15 or so
[12:06] <pshr> what does this mean how can i remove it
[12:06] <pshr> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
[12:06] <Dreamglider> i just plugged my canon mp140 printer in but when trying to print from open office i get a "Error while printing" how can i get it to print, running ubuntu 8.10
[12:06] <felix__> zortec, that 15 depends on most you will need
[12:07] <felix__> zortec, that 15 depends on most you will need for any other app to work, or just can have a lighter system
[12:07] <zortec> felix__ I need to burn the ISO for the Minimal CD and then where do I get a list of programs to download with apt-get?
[12:07] <guigouz> hello, does anyone by chance have the lastest (2.9) reconstructor package? it's homepage has been offline for a couple of days
[12:07] <fafaz> indus: Unmet dependencies
[12:07] <indus> k
[12:07] <zortec> felix__ I want to make sure that I have the right instructions
[12:08] <tiyowan> zortec: Whatever card you do get, just do a quick google search on to check whether it has good linux support.
[12:08] <felix__> zortec, you install the minimal and then reboot. youll have access to a console like the ALT CTRL F1-F7. then use apt-get or aptitude to download everything
[12:08] <koshari> guigouz i do
[12:08] <indus> fafaz: try again sudo apt-get -f install
[12:08] <guigouz> koshari: can you send me the package ?
[12:09] <aantn> what's the difference between the openjdk and the sun-java packages?
[12:09] <zortec> felix__ Will I have access to an internet connection once I'm in the console?
[12:09] <zortec> felix__ Do I need to make a list of packages first?
[12:09] <guigouz> koshari: thanks a lot
[12:09] <Slart> quibbler: reconstructor? what is that?
[12:10] <fafaz> indus: /usr/bin/dpkg returns error code (1)
[12:10] <felix__> zortec, youll have internet :) and if you wait a moment i can give you the full command.
[12:10] <indus> fafaz: wait
[12:10] <koshari> guigouz thank beagle, he knew where i saved it :-)
[12:10] <Lithax>  
[12:10] <Paddy_EIRE> what a day
[12:10] <indus> fafaz: sudo apt-get clean all
[12:11] <guigouz> ;)
[12:11] <indus> fafaz: then sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:11] <fafaz>  indus: the same
[12:12] <koshari> aantn i suspect one has some non gpled code
[12:12] <indus> fafaz: autoremove?
[12:12] <aantn> koshari: which one is official from sun?
[12:12] <fafaz> indus: yes. now I tried it with -f
[12:12] <indus> come in pm
[12:13] <koshari> aantn  they are both from sun but one wont contain any non gpled code,
[12:14] <aantn> koshari: open jdk doesn't have non-gpl code?
[12:14] <koshari> aantn i suspect so, you will likely need to click a eula to use suns closed source ebrsion
[12:15] <aantn> koshari: thanks
[12:16] <quibbler> Slart-> why are you asking me?
[12:16] <tiyowan> Speaking of open-source, is there an open-source port of Silverlight?
[12:16] <zortec> felix__ I need about 15 packages on the minimal CD right?
[12:16] <Lithax> yes, moonlight
[12:17] <tiyowan> Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Thanks Lithax.
[12:17] <bilalakhtar> hello everybedy. I want to ask you how do i run a DVD in UDF format on my Jaunty computer?
[12:17] <felix__> zortec, i cant find a complete list. but most simple is "sudo -i;apt-get update; apt-get install gnome (or kde)" and then install the packages you like in a desktop environment
[12:18] <felix__> zortec, or just write down a list of ubuntu livecd and put them after apt-get install
[12:19] <Guest7553> how can i fix my screen alignment on my monitor? xvidtune appears to do nothing
[12:19] <G_A_C> zortec, felix__, wouldn't "aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" be more appropriate?
[12:20] <G_A_C> that should get you everything that would come as standard with Ubuntu, and I seem to recall the ubuntu-* metapackages aid in upgrades between versions as well
[12:20] <felix__> lol, of course. i didnt noticed that package
[12:21] <zortec> felix__, G_A_C: Do I still need all the gnome packages?
[12:21]  * tannersummers still waits
[12:21] <felix__> zortec, ubuntu-desktop package depends on all ubuntu have
[12:21] <G_A_C> zortec, no; ubuntu-desktop will get you the full GNOME desktop, kubuntu-desktop would get you KDE, etc
[12:22] <zortec> What is the difference in aptitude and apt-get
[12:22] <G_A_C> installing ubuntu-desktop should be about 99.99999% identical to installing from a standard desktop CD
[12:22] <G_A_C> nothing much really, for installing packages you know the name of, just personal preference
[12:22] <felix__> zortec, aptitude is like synaptic, with a ui, in console
[12:23] <G_A_C> I also like the aptitude text menu "thing", so I've just got used to using aptitude for all my apt needs
[12:23] <zortec> So the only other packages I will need are for my graphics card?
[12:23] <zortec> Or am I missing some others?
[12:23] <felix__> zortec, yes. you will use vesa driver by default
[12:23] <Lithax> aptitude handles package conflicts a little more sanely than apt-get
[12:23] <G_A_C> ubuntu-desktop should pull in the restricted drivers applet, which should install your graphics drivers once you boot into GNOME
[12:23] <G_A_C> alternatively, there's things like EnvyNG which can do it from the console
[12:24] <G_A_C> (assuming EnvyNG is still around, and supported anyway)
[12:24] <zortec> Yes, but with my graphics card isn't the problem a vesa driver so don't I need to pull in special drivers?
[12:24] <zortec> That is why I can't get the installer to load on the live cd...
[12:25] <felix__> G_A_C, i used it some days ago. it fails at installing a TNT2 in an old pc
[12:25] <felix__> hardware manager doesnt detect at all
[12:25] <koshari> felix_ that card is ancient
[12:25] <G_A_C> felix__, probably purely to do with the age of the card; that won't be supported by any Forceware release from Nvidia
[12:26] <G_A_C> you couldn't get that working even manually, I wouldn't think :\
[12:26] <Lithax> how old is your pc felix
[12:26] <koshari> G_A_C i suspect it would work with the vesa driver
[12:26] <zortec> Even if my card is not supported? nforce 610/7300 NVIDIA
[12:26] <G_A_C> maybe, but EnvyNG isn't designed for setting things up with vesa...
[12:26] <zortec> It should pull in basic drivers... that is my understanding
[12:27] <felix__> koshari, G_A_C it has a legacy driver. one free and one privative, from nvidia site, i tryed but hw manager didnt recognise neither
[12:27] <koshari> felix__ you would have to manually install that package i suspect
[12:27] <koshari> zortec you shoulnt have to much trouble getting that gpu sorted
[12:28] <tiyowan> Guys.
[12:28] <zortec> koshari: It's not officially supported which I think is a little strange
[12:28] <zortec> I always thought nvidia was ahead of its game on linux
[12:28] <tiyowan> felix__, koshari, zortec: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-kernel-common/+bug/195139
[12:28] <zortec> being how popular of a chipset it is
[12:28] <rikki_max> for all those who think nvidia TNT2 graphics cards dont work well they do work but u can't "apply" it to be used
[12:29] <felix__> koshari, i did. it is nvidia*71* or smthing like that. i installed all packages that includes a 71 but hw manager stillsaying that no hw is found and so i cant enable the use of privativa. lshw detects the card
[12:29] <qdb> hello. i search in main window of nautilus .htaccess in phpbb folder and it has found nothing
[12:29] <qdb> though there are several htaccess in subdomains
[12:30] <qdb> hidden files are shown
[12:30] <zortec> tiyowan: I also notice that is for 7.10
[12:30] <chadi> Is Jaunty so buggy with you guys?
[12:30] <zortec> Wouldn't they have improved hardware support with jaunty?
[12:30] <rikki_max> chadi: it was when i tried it so i had to use intrepid ibex
[12:31] <tiyowan> zortec: Good point. Let me search the driver packages.
[12:32] <chadi> rikki_max I don't think I will go back to earlier versions though
[12:32] <koshari> zortec tried envy?
[12:32] <qdb> does not anybody know whether 9.04 works with nvidia mx 400, 440 , 440 se... etc ?
[12:32] <Lithax> chadi, what problems do u have?
[12:32] <qdb> 8.10 does not
[12:32] <rikki_max> chadi: intrepid does have all the packages i need and i am using as a server, main pc
[12:32] <Aryaan> Hi, whats the difference between nvidia glx new and the binary drivers provided by Nvidia
[12:32] <koshari> chadi there are a few bugs, but not unlike previous releases imo
[12:32] <the_dark_warrio> My notebook keyboard isn't working... I've unplugged my external keyboard at home and now it doesn't work. The problem seems to be o xorg conf, because it works ok on GRUB menu (I can select between operating systems). Any tips?
[12:32] <tiyowan> zortec: Aha. http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/nvidia-glx-180
[12:33] <Lithax> qdb, yes it does, u need the older nvidia driver
[12:33] <koshari> Aryaan nvidia glx are binarys provided ny nvidia
[12:33] <tiyowan> zortec: Looks like you're in business. :)
[12:33] <qdb> thank you, lithax. other question: does 8.04?
[12:33] <chadi> Lithax random problems. in my one-month trial, it crashed once, hibernation did not restore twice, some apps closed without notice, compiz had lots of problems
[12:34] <zortec> tiyowan: Do you see the nforce chipset in there?
[12:34] <chadi> i was satisfied with 8.04LTS
[12:34] <Lithax> qdp, i have a 8.04 machine working fine with nvidia rwo mx
[12:34] <Lithax> 429 mx
[12:34] <koshari> qdb yes , i have a mx card with nvidia which was running 8.04
[12:34] <Aryaan> koshari: so i dont have to install the nvidia driver from their site for full functionality?
[12:34] <qdb> thank you
[12:34] <tiyowan> zortec: I do, sir. GeForce 7050 / nForce 610i right?
[12:35] <zortec> tiyowan: I'll check to make sure.
[12:35] <koshari> Aryaan generaly no, however often the packaged snapshots arent the bleeding edge, but thats generally not a big deal
[12:35] <zortec> GeForce 7050 / NVIDIA nForce 610i
[12:35] <qdb> hello. i search in main window of nautilus .htaccess in phpbb folder and it has found nothing though there are several htaccess in subdomains. hidden files are shown
[12:35] <zortec> tiyowan: That is the video card.
[12:36] <tiyowan> zortec: There's more. :)
[12:36] <Aryaan> koshari: would installing the drivers help me to get hibernate working as desktop effects are supposed to hamper hibernate?
[12:36] <zortec> tiyowan: So there is no way to get access to that on the live cd for the installer?
[12:36] <zortec> tiyowan: I would need to use the Minimal CD...
[12:36] <qdb> may be i will test it with artificially made folder with subdirectories and htaccess files
[12:36] <Lithax> chadi, if 8.04 aint broke, don't fix it
[12:37] <qdb> fix: though there are several htaccess in subdirectories
[12:37] <tiyowan> zortec: Hmm.
[12:37] <koshari> Aryaan i wouldnt imagne so
[12:37] <felix__> zortec, does the livecd work? if yes, just open a console and "sudo apt-get install ubiquity; ubiquity"
[12:37] <tiyowan> zortec: When you try to install from the normal live CD, does your install hang or something?
[12:37] <gorbierd> how do i run some command for grep result? for example nano found files
[12:37] <chadi> Lithax true...
[12:38] <zortec> The installer hangs on that graphics card.
[12:38] <zortec> It drops me to a busybox guys.
[12:38] <zortec> That is when I try to "Install Ubuntu" from the menu.
[12:38] <tiyowan> zortec: Okay.
[12:38] <Aryaan> koshari: okay. do you think ill break my system if i go for the binary drivers?
[12:38] <ziroday> zortec: did you do "Check CD for Defects"
[12:38] <orochi_> Does anyone know if there are any issues with ext4 and data loss with KDE4 in Ubuntu?
[12:38] <zortec> ziroday: I tried, get the same busybox error.
[12:38] <koshari> Aryaan not if you install the correct ones
[12:38] <Lithax> aryaan, not beyond repair
[12:39] <computer> fika
[12:39] <ziroday> orochi_: most ext4 dataloss issues have been resolved, but if you are worried about your data its safer to go with ext3
[12:39] <zortec> ziroday: It doesn't let me do anything except "Boot to first hard disk" on the live CD
[12:39] <tiyowan> zortec: What you need to do is get the text-based installed done, and then apt-get the appropriate packages. I don't have the experience to guide you though.
[12:39] <Aryaan> thanks. is there a way to backup settings before i do?
[12:39] <ziroday> zortec: sounds like a bad burn, try burning the image (on a different cd) again
[12:39] <tiyowan> ziroday: The installer hanging has been reported as bug for his graphic card model.
[12:39] <orochi_> ziroday: Ahh, okay, thanks...unfortunately I've already installed on ext4 so hopefully I won't have any issues
[12:39] <koshari> Aryaan there are many ways, from a partimage snapshot to jsut uninstaling the package
[12:40] <zortec> Is there anyone that can guide me through a text based install?
[12:40] <Lithax> aryan backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:40] <zortec> I have never done one...
[12:40] <ziroday> tiyowan: but the Check CD for Defects does not rely on X or graphics drivers
[12:40] <Aryaan> alright, thanks for everything.
[12:40] <chadi> Lithax may I consider Jaunty as being in its alpha stage?
[12:40] <zortec> ziroday: Are you sure it doesn't?
[12:40] <ziroday> zortec: certain :)
[12:41] <tiyowan> ziroday: Which would mean that if zortec were to run the check, it would pass?
[12:41] <chadi> hoping that those bugs will be reported and fixed
[12:41] <koshari> Lithax are any of the graphics settings in xorg.conf > 8.04?
[12:41] <zortec> ziroday: The reason I say that is I used the alternate installer and it didn't detect my cdrom but it loaded the installer...
[12:41] <IHS_intern> I'm curious, what is the oldest Nvidia card still supported by Jaunty?
[12:41] <zortec> ziroday: It is really weird.
[12:41] <Lithax> chadi, i've not tried it yet, but i've heard other reports similar to yours
[12:41] <chadi> oh
[12:41] <ziroday> IHS_intern: more or less all of them AFAIK, what do you have?
[12:42] <IHS_intern> ziroday, Geforce 2 MX and TNT 2s
[12:42] <koshari> IHS_intern are we counting chips before nvidia bought out fx?
[12:42] <zortec> Hmm, is there another way to test my CD?
[12:42] <ziroday> IHS_intern: there are all the older nvidia drivers in the repo's which still support the older cards, and nv might
[12:42] <ziroday> IHS_intern: ah well in that case, vesa is probably all you need :)
[12:42] <Lithax> koshari, i'm not near my machine to check, but i would guess not
[12:42] <zortec> I checked the MD5 hashes which were the same.
[12:43] <IHS_intern> Also got ATI Rage128s, was wondering if the Nvidia chips would serveme better
[12:43]  * IHS_intern is getting angered by this space bar
[12:43] <felix__> IHS_intern, i have a tnt2. does yours work?
[12:43] <koshari> IHS_intern a mx2 card with closed binaries will awalk all over a ati 9250 which is a much newer card
[12:43] <Lithax> zortec, ah that old bug
[12:44] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi all. Is it normal that in evolution pressing "ins" to switch to overwrite mode does not do anything useful?
[12:44] <tiyowan> zortec: You'll be able to download that package after you do the minimal install.
[12:44] <zortec> Lithax: Old bug?
[12:44] <Lithax> the not finding the cd bug
[12:44] <zortec> tiyowan: I just want to make sure I'm not going to get stuck in the minimal install.
[12:44] <IHS_intern> felix__, I'm using an ATI Rage128 At the moment. got a GeForce2 MX right next to me, but wasn't sure if the drivers were available with the new X.org in Jaunty
[12:44] <zortec> tiyowan: Will I have access to the IRC room? :P
[12:45] <zortec> tiyowan: Preferably without having to boot back into Windows
[12:45] <tiyowan> zortec: Well, put that way, I can't guarantee. :P
[12:45] <koshari> IHS_intern the mx2 will trounce it
[12:45]  * Lithax finds that typing from a nokia n810 keyboard ain't so easy after all
[12:45] <zortec> What is the package to install the IRC?
[12:46] <IHS_intern> thanks,everyone that answered. I'll be setting up a new dev. system then.
[12:46] <felix__> zortek "apt-get install xchat
[12:46] <chadi> zortec x-chat ?
[12:46] <IHS_intern> zortec, theres irssi, and xchat, andothers
[12:46] <zortec> Oh, but wouldn't it be a part of the ubuntu-desktop package?
[12:46] <felix__> it is
[12:46] <Le-Chuck_ITA> zortec: because pidgin supports irc
[12:46] <tiyowan> zortec: Considering the scenario that you won't have any graphics - irssi.
[12:46] <zortec> That seems a better way to go than installing all the gnome packages
[12:46] <zortec> Do you agree?
[12:46] <Lovok> is it possible to have windows read a FAT32 partition off a ubuntu harddrive?
[12:46] <koshari> zortec i just use pidgin
[12:47] <koshari> Lovok cant see why not
[12:47] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Lovok: it should do that alone but if it doesnt then you won't have any way to convince windows to do that
[12:47] <tiyowan> zortec: You won't have to install everything by yourself when you go with the minimal install. It'll guide you using text.
[12:47] <zortec> One last concern, will I have access to my network?
[12:47] <zortec> I'm on a wired ADSL connection.
[12:47] <Lithax> lovok there's no such thing as an 'ubuntu' hd if the partition's fat32 windows should read it
[12:47] <erUSUL> Lovok: it should just appear in MyComputer
[12:48] <sandeep_> how can i remove python
[12:48] <Le-Chuck_ITA> zortec: pppoeconf
[12:48] <koshari> zortec ehternet should be a soda, wifi could be a drama if you need madwifi ect
[12:48] <erUSUL> sandeep_: probably you can not... many things depend on python being installed
[12:48] <zortec> Le-Chuck_ITA: The Minimal install won't configure that automatically?
[12:48] <Le-Chuck_ITA> zortec: I don't know :)
[12:48] <Lovok> thanks for the replies ; the way it works now, i have XP on hd(0,0), and fat32 on hd(1,0), / on hd(1,1), /home on hd(1,2), swap on hd(1,3) ; XP doesn'T see the fat32
[12:48] <zortec> I still have no idea what is going to happen when I get into the Minimal install... but I get the feeling it's all command line based.
[12:49] <Le-Chuck_ITA> zortec: but pppoeconf will work very well :)
[12:49] <tiyowan> zortec: Hmm. Can your hardware run a virtual machine?
[12:49] <Lithax> sandeep, if u use gnome, it's probably best u don't
[12:49] <felix__> zortec, i use wifi and i hadn any problem with jaunty minimal
[12:49] <zortec> tiyowan: Yeah I was running Ubuntu for awhile on VirtualBox
[12:49] <zortec> tiyowan: But it has access to the video drivers for my chipset
[12:49] <tiyowan> zortec: There you go. VMs are great for testing this kind of test.
[12:49] <koshari> zortec its pretty wast to follos, just like the alternative installer except you need to download heaps of packages or use a proxy with local apt packages
[12:49] <sandeep_> erUSUL: i have installed python2.5 from source on my centos pc for trac
[12:49] <sandeep_> but now my yum is not working
[12:50] <Lithax> zortec, have you tried an alternate install?
[12:50] <zortec> Lithax: I have an alternate CD, but it can't locate my cdrom and so it's going in a loop
[12:50] <Lithax> sandeep, u realise this is an ubuntu chatroom?
[12:50] <zortec> When I tell it I don't have any drivers, it tells me again it can't locate my cdrom
[12:50] <koshari> zortec do you have a usb stick?
[12:50] <sandeep_> yes
[12:50] <Lithax> zortec, oh right
[12:51] <zortec> koshari: I think I have a 1GB usb drive laying around
[12:51] <scooterthenoob> I see "1442 members" in this chat room, but can I tell how many people are currently logged in?
[12:51] <koshari> zortec use that to install
[12:51] <tiyowan> sandeep: Perhaps the folks in the Centos channel could guide you?
[12:51] <zortec> koshari: Is there a guide on that? :P
[12:51] <koshari> zortec 3 liner, boot live disc, create usb install, install from usb :-)
[12:52] <tiyowan> koshari: That's a great idea.
[12:52] <sandeep_> ok
[12:52] <sandeep_> thanks
[12:52] <zortec> koshari: Where is "create usb install"?
[12:52] <tiyowan> zortec: Can you boot into the live cd?
[12:52] <tiyowan> !usb | zortec
[12:52] <zortec> tiyowan: I can boot into it, just can't use any of the menu
[12:53] <koshari> zortec sys > adm >createusb
[12:53] <livingdaylight> zortec: hi
[12:53] <Lithax> zortec, how old is your pc?
[12:53] <zortec> Lithax: I built it about 3 months ago
[12:54] <livingdaylight> zortec: hi
[12:54] <koshari>  zortec the bios is sure to support booting from sb then
[12:54] <koshari> usb
[12:54] <zortec> koshari: I'm not sure that option was in my bios
[12:54] <the_dark_warrio> Is it possible to start Ubuntu dismissing xorg.conf from grub menu?
[12:54] <livingdaylight> zortec: hi
[12:55] <koshari> zortec you prolly just never looked hard enough
[12:55] <tiyowan> Quick question. The build-essentials, headers, available through the alternate installer CD right?
[12:55] <zortec> livingdaylight: Hi, do you have a question?
[12:55] <G_A_C> zortec, trypowering off, plugging in your USB pen, then powering on with it plugged in and checking the BIOS
[12:55] <Lithax> zortec, it'll be in the boot options, maybe as removable media
[12:55] <livingdaylight> zortec: no, why?
[12:55] <G_A_C> your USB pen will probably be listed as a hard drive, most modern BIOSes will give you a choice of which order to boot your HDs
[12:55] <zortec> livingdaylight: You keep saying hi :)
[12:56] <scooterthenoob> I now see "1440 members" in this chat room - but can I tell how many people are currently logged in?
[12:56] <Lithax> warrio, boot to init 3 if you don't want X
[12:56] <chocobanana> Hi everyone!!!!!
[12:56] <livingdaylight> zortec: just being friendly, but you keep ignoring me :(
[12:56] <Lithax> warrio, boot to init 3 if you don't want X
[12:56] <livingdaylight> chocobanana: HI!
[12:56] <zortec> Hmm, so I have multiple options: USB install, minimal CD, or alternate text install
[12:56] <koshari> G_A_C mine recignises the usb hardware and prints the name of it in the bios or gives a generic usb key option, both generally work
[12:56] <chocobanana> :)
[12:56] <tiyowan> zortec: Least painful is USB install.
[12:56] <G_A_C> yeah, it's BIOS dependent
[12:56] <scooterthenoob> hi chocobanana!
[12:56] <livingdaylight> chocobanana: great combination
[12:56] <zortec> livingdaylight: I didn't mean to ignore you, just been trying to get ubuntu installed on my system for 2 days
[12:56] <G_A_C> my Asus at home lists a "USB 2.0 Pendrive" entry under my two main HDs
[12:56] <chocobanana> you bet!
[12:56] <G_A_C> but still treats it as a hard drive
[12:56] <koshari> zortec you could even install to the hdd in another machine and do the switchseroo
[12:57] <zortec> It's nice to find such a friendly community though and people that are willing to help.
[12:57] <G_A_C> a lot of Intel desktop boards (Phoenix BIOS, I think) will give them their own USB devices section
[12:57] <Pici> scooterthenoob: This isn't really on-topic for this channel, but: /who
[12:57] <livingdaylight> zortec: hence your fuse is a bit short... ic
[12:57] <chocobanana> does anyone know how to configure Ubuntu 9.04's new notifications display position?
[12:57] <Pici> chocobanana: You cannot.
[12:57] <chocobanana> oh!
[12:57] <koshari> zortec you can boot the usblive session just like the disc and see if it works
[12:57] <nailora> chocobanana: indeed not configurable
[12:57] <zortec> I'm going to see if I can find the usb if not then we'll do the minimal install
[12:58] <livingdaylight> zortec: you should get entry into world guinness book of records.. I would've thought it impossible to take that long... took me about 20minutes
[12:58] <Lithax> livingdaylight, it's a bit odd to just stay on orc saying hi to everyone
[12:58] <Lithax> irc
[12:58] <chocobanana> that's terrible. If you use a dual screen setup with the secondary screen on the right, it looks nasty
[12:58] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[12:58] <livingdaylight> Lithax: what an odd thing to say
[12:58] <koshari> zortec and if you have a drama just create the usb install in another machine, and then boot the prepared usb stick in the one you wanna isntall
[12:58] <chocobanana> well, I'm sure the devs are aware of the problem...
[12:59] <zortec> livingdaylight: It really shouldn't take that long, but I have a graphics card that is not supported on the live cd or rather I can't get access to the packages I need to run it
[12:59] <Lithax> what have u said that's of any use to anyone?
[12:59] <livingdaylight> zortec: shux... agues you hadn't had linux in mind at the time of building your machine?
[12:59] <chocobanana> zortec: which graphics cards is that?
[12:59] <zortec> livingdaylight: I actually had windows/linux in mind when I built the computer
[12:59] <saif> hi all ..can any1 help me
[13:00] <wraith0x2b> ok I managed to boot the iso from my existing grub using http://deepbluespaces.blogspot.com/2008/07/install-ubuntu-804-from-hard-disk.html
[13:00] <chocobanana> saif: ask your question
[13:00] <SirFunk_> hey, i have two strange problems with jaunty on my laptop: 1.) 99% of the time when i resume from suspend... X has crashed and i'm back at the GDM login prompt 2.) X never seems to idle and suspend on its own, power management says it should after 10 min, but it never does
[13:00] <zortec> chocobanana: nvidia geforce 7300/nforce 610i chipset
[13:00] <saif> i think my graphic card is not working properly
[13:00] <wraith0x2b> problem is I can;t install because it said it needs to comit stuff to the partition table..and I got the drive mounted (since i run the iso off it)
[13:00] <chocobanana> zortec: the nv or nouveau driver don't work?
[13:00] <wraith0x2b> any ideas?
[13:00] <scooterthenoob> I just got an Eee 900A, and it will only "mirror" when I want to run an external monitor. Anyone know how I might "extend the desktop" to my external LCD  (and increase resolution)??
[13:00] <scooterthenoob> Will installling Ubuntu help?
[13:00] <chocobanana> said: please go to the point
[13:01] <chocobanana> saif: please go to the point *
[13:01] <zortec> chocobanana: I can't get the installer going.  It crashes to a busybox prompt
[13:01] <davidh38> hey guys, what means the "rc" in bash .bashrc?
[13:01] <saif> how can i make it work
[13:01] <zortec> Can you do a text based install from the live cd?
[13:01] <tannersummers> guys any program i cna download that can tell me hardware information? more spefic the slot on my mobo that i can place a video card in? i need to find out if i have pci express or agp
[13:01] <chocobanana> zortec: is that the problem you were having yesterday?
[13:01] <flintwingel> scooterthenoob: Menu->System->Preferences->Display allows your to manipulate displays
[13:01] <zortec> chocobanana: Same problem.
[13:02] <chocobanana> zortec: why not from the alternate installer disk?
[13:02] <Pici> davidh38: run commands
[13:02] <scooterthenoob> flintwingel: thx, I did that and the only option is "mirror" (if you want both displays at the same time)
[13:02] <zortec> chocobanana: I have been at it now for 2 days, but I did get some sleep and woke up and trying to get it working.
 i cant use visualeffect or compiz because of it
[13:02] <chocobanana> saif: what's the machine graphics card?
 even though it was great on 8.1
[13:02] <davidh38> does anybody know what "rc" in .bashrc means?
[13:02] <tannersummers> guys any program i cna download that can tell me hardware information? more spefic the slot on my mobo that i can place a video card in? i need to find out if i have pci express or agp
[13:02] <Pici> davidh38: I just answered you
[13:02] <livingdaylight> same with .conkyrc or .zshrc
[13:02] <saif> Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
[13:02] <zortec> chocobanana: There is a bug in the alternate installer.  It doesn't locate my cdrom
[13:03] <davidh38> pici: thank you, sorry
[13:03] <zortec> chocobanana: It's going in a loop for some odd reason.
[13:03] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Hmm, good question...
[13:03] <saif> chocobanana Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
[13:03] <Lithax> tannersummers, hardinfo
[13:03] <tiyowan> tannersummers: hwinfo
[13:03] <chocobanana> zortec: do you have a USB stick? You could make a bootable USB alternate installer. Do you have 9.04 installed on another machine?
[13:03] <flintwingel> scooterthenoob: if "Mirror Screens" in not checked then you should have two separate screens
[13:04] <zortec> chocobanana: That is what they suggested in the IRC room or a Minimal Install
[13:04] <Lithax> or just run lspci from cli
[13:04] <chocobanana> saif: I know someone who has the same problem but I'm not sure why. You could try searching in the forums.
[13:04] <zortec> chocobanana: I have to go find that usb stick
[13:04] <livingdaylight> zortec: it might be quicker to return or resale your graphics card and get one that is supported out of the box?
[13:04] <saif> Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
[13:04] <chocobanana> zortec: is your internet connection wired or wireless?
 thanx
[13:04] <zortec> livingdaylight: It is integrated.  I can't sell it, lol.
[13:04] <chocobanana> saif: good luck
[13:05] <zortec> livingdaylight: But I can replace it with a PCI-E card.
[13:05] <livingdaylight> zortec: yea!
[13:05] <chocobanana> saif : I'm sure you'll find something meaningful in the forums
[13:05] <davidh38> i have a problem with the deskbar, sometimes it doesnt come to the front, but stays in the back, though i invoked it. I could even right something in, and it would start, but i cannot see it quite good. Does anybody know of the "bug"?
[13:05] <scooterthenoob> flintwingel: the only options (on the Linux that comes with the Eee 900a) are : "View both external and internal displays, View etral display only, or View internal display only"
[13:05] <tiyowan> livingdaylight: zortec's card is integrated. MSI mobo.
[13:05] <livingdaylight> zortec: integrated is never as good as dedicated anyhow
[13:06] <deepak> hii
[13:06] <zortec> I built the computer for $500 which was a nice deal for all the parts.  I should have figured in the cost a new video card
[13:06] <deepak> i have a problem in ubuntu
[13:06] <tannersummers> lixthax how do i install hardinfo
[13:06] <deepak> my wifi is not working can any buddy help me
[13:06] <Lithax> apt-get install hardinfo
[13:06] <exco> what module is for bluetooth on a Wind U100?
[13:06] <chocobanana> deepak: which Ubuntu version and which wireless card do you have?
[13:07] <tannersummers> can it still downlaod when runnign off live cd
[13:07] <deepak> 9.04 and
[13:07] <deepak> i donnot have any idea abt card
[13:07] <chocobanana> deepak: open terminal and type lspci
[13:08] <deepak> yes
[13:08] <deepak> i done
[13:08] <deepak> now
[13:08] <Pici> !enter | deepak
[13:08] <chinosuke> I got message from stranger msn contact when I use pidgin messager
[13:08] <chocobanana> deepak: tells us about what comes listed in front of network controller
[13:08] <deepak> ok
[13:09] <chinosuke> I got message from stranger msn contact when I use pidgin messenger. Is it a bug or security issue
[13:09] <deepak> Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[13:09] <deepak> now
[13:09] <deiapcruz> ola será que alguem pode me auxiliar?
[13:09] <tiyowan> deepak: Can you ping your router?
[13:10] <livingdaylight> !es | deiaccord
[13:10] <deepak> now i am using eto
[13:10] <Myrtti> !pt | deiapcruz
[13:10] <tiyowan> !es | deiaccord
[13:10] <zortec> I found the usb stick.  It's a sandisk cruzer 1GB.
[13:10] <deepak> no
[13:10] <chocobanana> deepak: check instruction on the first post here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1134206
[13:10] <deepak> even wifi is not able to turn on
[13:10] <Myrtti> !wireless | deepak
[13:10] <zortec> !usb
[13:10] <chocobanana> deepak: should be like riding a icycle
[13:10] <chocobanana> bicycle
[13:11] <SirFunk_> When my ubuntu wakes from sleep often X has crashed and it's back at the GDM login screen, why might this happen?
[13:11] <chocobanana> !suspen
[13:11] <chocobanana> SirFunk: !suspend
[13:11] <chocobanana> !suspend
[13:12] <chocobanana> damn
[13:12] <chocobanana> heeheh
[13:12] <chocobanana> !standby
[13:12] <chocobanana> oh darn
[13:12] <zortec> What are the simple steps to create a USB install? There is a lot of info on that page
[13:12] <Lithax> !hibernation
[13:13] <deepak> hellooo
[13:13] <SirFunk_> oh
[13:13] <SirFunk_> !suspend
[13:13] <SirFunk_> ig
[13:13] <SirFunk_> oic
[13:13] <zortec> !standby
[13:13] <alienkid10> My brother's computer just finished booting and was about to show GDM but then it went to a blank screen and it isn't taking commands what should we do?
[13:13] <SirFunk_> nohin
[13:13] <tiyowan> zortec: Well. The easiest way is to boot into the live CD, go to System -> Admin. -> USB install, tell it where the iso is, where the usb drive is, and that's about it.
[13:13] <Slart> SirFunk_: check the logs.. /var/log/syslog is a good start
[13:14] <zortec> !sleep
[13:14] <deepak> can any buudy help me to install wifi driver in ubuntu 9.04
[13:14] <tiyowan> zortec: If you're not able to use a live CD, then you need to download and use a program called unetbootin.
[13:14] <zortec> tiyowan: Where do you get to System -> Admin from the live CD?
[13:14] <tiyowan> alienkid10: So you're able to use the commandline right?
[13:14] <zortec> tiyowan: I don't remember seeing those.
[13:14] <alienkid10> no
[13:14] <tiyowan> zortec: Put in the live CD. Try Ubuntu.
[13:15] <SirFunk_> Slart: good call
[13:15] <zortec> tiyowan: I can't get that to work. :(
[13:15] <alienkid10> nothing
[13:15] <zortec> tiyowan: That is the problem.
[13:15] <tiyowan> alienkid10: What graphics card do you have?
[13:15] <tiyowan> zortec: I know - read the information on the USB install page about the second method: unetbootin.
[13:15] <deepak> Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[13:16] <zortec> tiyowan: Thanks, reading it now.
[13:16] <chocobanana> zortec: with Ubuntu installed on another machine, it's as symple as System > Administration > Live USB Creator
[13:16] <alienkid10> as if shutdown but computer is humming Intel 845G series. It worked yedterday
[13:16] <tiyowan> alienkid10: It worked yesterday?
[13:16] <alienkid10> yep
[13:16] <chocobanana> deepak: menu System > Administration > Hardware drivers
[13:16] <byonix> excuse me, where's the kubuntu channel?
[13:17] <zortec> chocobanana: I don't have another machine available.  The other one is a Mac. :P
[13:17] <MikeChelen> !kubuntu
[13:17] <tiyowan> byonix: #kubuntu
[13:17] <alienkid10> 82845G
[13:17] <tiyowan> alienkid10: Okay...so did you guys do something yesterday?
[13:17] <byonix> thank you
[13:17] <tiyowan> alienkid10: Does the boot process fail if you select the Recovery option from GRUB?
[13:18] <TheFunkbomb> hey, I'm looking at my system monitor and it has both my cores as maxed out.  Why?
[13:18] <tiyowan> TheFunkbomb: Running any resource-intense applications?
[13:19] <TheFunkbomb> tiyowan, just IRC and banshee and system monitor now
[13:19] <alienkid10> he cold rebooted
[13:19] <chocobanana> zortec: how about the minimal installation? Once it's up and running, all you need to do is sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[13:19] <alienkid10> we got to GDM!
[13:19] <alienkid10> not sur what we did
[13:20] <gibbo> we
[13:20] <tiyowan> TheFunkbomb: I'd use ps and top to find out what's going on.
[13:20] <TheFunkbomb> tiyowan, npviewer.bin is the problem it looks like.
[13:20] <tiyowan> TheFunkbomb: Kill it.
[13:20] <zortec> chocobanana: Which is easier? minimal install or usb install
[13:21] <gibbo> chi è italiano??
[13:21] <zortec> chocobanana: I was doing the usb install
[13:21] <tbergeron> Hi! I'm trying to change my user and my root password but when I do a 'passwd' and I type my password and repeat it, it does nothing and my console freezes... Then I reconnect to it and see that my password hasn't changed... I try to reinstall passwd package but it changed nothing...
[13:21] <TheFunkbomb> yeah, instant decrease
[13:21] <tiyowan> !it | gibbo
[13:21] <tiyowan> TheFunkbomb: Just curious...but what is npviewer.bin?
[13:21] <Slart> !root | tbergeron
[13:21] <Slart> tbergeron: but it shouldn't freeze... that's a bit odd..
[13:21] <tiyowan> TheFunkbomb: nvm, it's Adobe's Flash plugin
[13:22] <chocobanana> zortec: well, is the machine connected to the internet wired or wirelessly?
[13:22] <TheFunkbomb> tiyowan, yeah.  I had two instances running.  No wonder I was running 10 degrees higher than normal
[13:22] <zortec> chocobanana: Wired
[13:22] <Slart> tbergeron: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[13:22] <tbergeron> Slart: I have ubuntu server. And I have a root password. Hey I'm not a noob, this is serious I tried with several tips from my sysadmin aswell....
[13:22] <chocobanana> go minimal then: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[13:22] <tbergeron> Ubuntu Server 9
[13:22] <tiyowan> TheFunkbomb: Just drop down to the command line and kill the plugin everytime you finish using firefox.
[13:23] <wraith0x2b> ok I managed to install ubuntu. but it wrote over my already existing grub that picks it's files from a separate partition...how can I get that one back to use with ubuntu?
[13:23] <TheFunkbomb> yeah.  I'll have to do that.  Or find a fix
[13:23] <zortec> tiyowan: I'm downloading the files to create the usb install with unetbootin.
[13:23] <tiyowan> zortec: Great. :)
[13:23] <zortec> It's going to take awhile. :P
[13:23] <tiyowan> TheFunkbomb: Go for it.
[13:23] <Slart> tbergeron: you've checked the logs? no info there?
[13:23] <xci> what program should I use to let some programs to use only some part of the bandwith at maximum?
[13:23] <TheFunkbomb> tiyowan, I'm looking at the forums now.
[13:23] <chocobanana> zortec: minimal iso is 10mb :D
[13:24] <tannersummers> tiyowan
[13:24] <zortec> This one is 699MB.
[13:24] <zortec> It's only 2% done.
[13:24] <tiyowan> chocobanana: He's getting the normal iso to use with unetbootin.
[13:24] <tiyowan> tannersummers: ?
[13:24] <TheFunkbomb> zortec, you downloading via FTP or torrents?
[13:25] <tannersummers> http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/Tanner2007/finally.png
[13:25] <tannersummers> =]
[13:25] <zortec> I'm downloading from http://caesar.acc.umu.se/mirror/ubuntu-releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
[13:25] <tiyowan> wraith0x2b: Could you please clarify your problem?
[13:25] <MikeChelen> xci, depends what kind of programs, for downloads id recommend using bittorrent
[13:25] <chocobanana> tiyowan: the idea is just to get it started quickly. poor soul has been dealing with this for 2 days :)
[13:25] <TheFunkbomb> tannersummers, how much ram do you have that you're using a 4.4gb swap?
[13:25] <tiyowan> tannersummers: Awesome.
[13:26] <tannersummers> the funk bomb idk dud ei just made it sincei had to delete my old and gave it a good amount of mb
[13:26] <zortec> What advantage does the usb install have?
[13:26] <G_A_C> probably not much, TheFunkbomb. My 2Gb laptop has a 5.2Gb swapfile, that Ubuntu set up for as part of the autopartitioning
[13:26] <tannersummers> but physical i have 4 gb of ram
[13:26] <TheFunkbomb> you don't know how much ram you have?
[13:26] <tannersummers> o 4 gb
[13:26] <tannersummers> physical
[13:27] <TheFunkbomb> oh, that's about right then.
[13:27] <tbergeron> Slart: in which logfile should there be any infos about this?
[13:27] <stamenko> is there anyone here who have expirience with some software for statical analysis by finite elements analysis method ?
[13:27] <TheFunkbomb> Yeah, when I set up my Ubuntu, it gave me an 11gb swap.  I was like "what the blazes?"  I shrunk it down to 5gb
[13:27] <zortec> I still have to confirm that I can boot from usb in my bios.
[13:27] <Slart> tbergeron: well.. if the passwd binary fails for some reason I would guess the syslog.. possible kern.log
[13:27] <tiyowan> chocobanana: Agreed. But a systematic approach would help in solving the problem. :)
[13:27] <zortec> I really hope so.
[13:27] <tiyowan> tannersummers: So you did it huh? :)
[13:28] <chocobanana> tiyowan: either options are valid, let's wait and see the outcome of the first choice :)
[13:28] <wraith0x2b> tiyowan, I already had a linux installed, whit it's own grub and menu.lst. I installed ubuntu and grub reinstalled over my old one, so it gets it's files from my new ubuntu partition. if I decide to remove ubuntu I won't be able to boot again. so I want the old grub back. easy task?
[13:28] <tannersummers> tiyowan yup and school starts in less then 2 hours..screw that im sleeping all day haha brb guys thanks
[13:28] <nimrod> Hy! I need help whit Skype install on Ubuntu 9.04. I'v read posts on ubuntu forums, they say to install out of date version, and (...do this and that...)m but at first step I get - Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'... I'm realy satisfied whit ubuntu, but have issues to solve =) [like an ActionScript editor design for linux, no Wine tricks... but thats next step] - does this error have...
[13:28] <nimrod> ...something to do whit my CPU?
[13:28] <gorbierd> is there text editor that allow to choose character encoding?
[13:28] <tiyowan> chocobanana: Agreed.
[13:28] <chocobanana> tiyowan: it's a deal, lol
[13:28] <TheFunkbomb> I'll show you my partition lol
[13:28] <jophish> wraith0x2b, very easy, using a live cd
[13:29] <wraith0x2b> jophish, I can;t boot cd's. took me 2 hours to install ubuntu using casper :)
[13:29] <zortec> 12%.  It's going to be a good 15-20 mins.  I'll be back soon.
[13:29] <Weed37> hey guys my desktop has stopped doing effects and when i goto apperance in settings i get told unable to make changes   u got any ideas
[13:29] <tiyowan> wraith0x2b: Sure. As long as you haven't done anything to your old partitions, it should be easy enough to setup grub to boot into the old partitions.
[13:29] <wraith0x2b> I chrooted from ubuntu and will attempt a grub install
[13:29] <wraith0x2b> old partition is fine
[13:29] <Slart> gorbierd: several.. scite would be one, I think.. Editra too..you can probably make vim/emacs do it too but I have no idea how.. pressing a gazillion keys at once perhaps =)
[13:29] <wraith0x2b> editing menu.lst as we speak..to allow booting of ubuntu
[13:29] <xieles> hi there
[13:30] <xieles> I have installed wine in ubuntu
[13:30] <TheFunkbomb> this is how I have mine partitioned: http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2312/screenshotdevsdagparted.png
[13:30] <tiyowan> zortec: I'm going to go for a break now - you'll be around right?
[13:30] <xieles> My main aim is to install livezilla client in ubuntu
[13:30] <vk> what ?
[13:30] <tiyowan> xieles: Livezilla? What's that?
[13:30] <xieles> installatin went ok.. but I cannot open open live zilla
[13:31] <Weed37> hey guys my desktop has stopped doing effects and when i goto apperance in settings i get told unable to make changes   u got any ideas
[13:31] <zortec> tiyowan: I'll be around for a while.
[13:31] <xieles> Livezilla is a live chat program
[13:31] <Myrtti> nimrod: install from medibuntu if you need it
[13:31] <SirFunk_> is there debs for a 2.6.30 kernel in jaunty?
[13:31] <xieles> it is only available in exe format
[13:31] <G_A_C> SirFunk_, there's a PPA for "mainline" kernels I think, ie kernels with no Ubuntu mods
[13:31] <G_A_C> that PPA might well have some
[13:31]  * clocKwize would like a AWN system-tray applet that takes up one icon area for each icon in the tray (e.g. they don't look like tray icons at all, but seperate icons)
[13:32] <SirFunk_> G_A_C: i want the ubuntu mods :-P
[13:32] <G_A_C> then probably not, unless you feel like upgrading to the unstable version and it has the right version :)
[13:32] <nimrod>  <<< is googleing medibuntu....
[13:32] <SirFunk_> 9.10 will have 2.6.30 but i don't want to switch entirely to kermerik (or however you spell it)
[13:32] <tiyowan> xieles: Have you tried asking on the livezilla forums?
[13:32] <SirFunk_> is there any way to just upgrade the kernel to what's in unstable?
[13:33] <wraith0x2b> ok grub reinstalled from chroot...wish me luck :D
[13:33] <lyhana_8> hi, how could I know which line of the sources.list cause this error : http://pastebin.com/d392167d3
[13:33] <soulwarp1> Weed37: did you make changes to your graphics driver?
[13:33] <xieles> they do not provide anyinfo for installing it in linux machines..
[13:33] <G_A_C> there is, SirFunk_,with apt pinning (I think it's called)
[13:33] <wraith0x2b> and it boots :D
[13:33] <vk> hi
[13:33] <xieles> so i tried to install it using wine
[13:33] <G_A_C> try googling for "apt pinning" or something like that, but I probably wouldn't want to do it with something as core as the kernel
[13:33] <SirFunk_> G_A_C: ahh yes, that sounds familiar, i'll look into that
[13:34] <tiyowan> xieles: http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/Tanner2007/finally.pnghttp://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/Tanner2007/finally.png
[13:34] <tiyowan> xieles: Yikes. One moment, please.
[13:34] <tbergeron> Slart: nothing about passwd in both of these files :S
[13:34] <TheFunkbomb> well, I guess the good news is that even under 100% load, my CPU only gets up to 47c
[13:34] <tiyowan> xieles: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=737598 <- Livezilla + Linux - The thinking is to run it in a virtual machine in Linux.
[13:35] <Weed37> soulwarp1,  no i did not
[13:35] <Weed37> i am just strting out on linux
[13:35] <nimrod> but I still have an AMD64 x 2 ....    'dont get it...
[13:35] <TheFunkbomb> Weed37, what's the problem?
[13:35] <Weed37> hey guys my desktop has stopped doing effects and when i goto apperance in settings i get told unable to make changes   u got any ideas
[13:36] <mmm4m5m> Hi. Question please: Is there a shortcut for change current desktop? Something like Alt+Ctrl+[Arrow], but Alt+Ctrl+[1-9]?
[13:36] <Slart> tbergeron: and running "passwd" just does nothing.. doesn't return, doesn't give any error messages?
[13:36] <Weed37> that is TheFunkbomb
[13:36] <TheFunkbomb> Weed37, I see.  Go into System/Administration/Hardware Drivers.  You're using a Nvidia gpu, right?
[13:36] <scunizi> mmm4m5m: what you said... with the arrow
[13:36] <Weed37> yeah
[13:36] <wraith0x2b> where is the Cpu Frequency Panel Monitor?
[13:36] <Dawsey> Hey, do you guys know of a reason why my install of ubuntu 9.04 is freezing at random points during the install process, I've had install at 27%/34% and during the partion manager section.
[13:36] <Weed37> sec
[13:36] <wraith0x2b> nvm
[13:36] <Myrtti> mmm4m5m: you can remap them in your keyboard settings
[13:37] <TheFunkbomb> Weed37, go in there and make sure you're using the restricted drivers.
[13:37] <mmm4m5m> scunizi: thanks.. want to do it with one hand :). Myrtti: thanks, will check it.
[13:37] <tiyowan> Dawsey: Have you verified your CD?
[13:37] <Dawsey> tiyowan: Yes that passed without errors
[13:37] <tiyowan> Weed37: What is the exact msg you get?
[13:37] <Markeh> How can I stupidly increase the speed on-boot? :)
[13:37] <Weed37> unbale to make changes is the error
[13:38] <vk> hello
[13:38] <tiyowan> Dawsey: Have you tried googling for ubuntu support for your hardware?
 Weed37, go in there and make sure you're using the restricted drivers.     what u mean m8 ?
[13:38] <chocobanana> wraith0x2b: right click on the bottom or top panel and click Add..
[13:38] <wraith0x2b> yeah did that
[13:38] <scunizi> Markeh: turn off services you don't need in System/Admin/Services
[13:38] <TheFunkbomb> Weed37, did you go into hardware?
[13:38] <wraith0x2b> been years since I used ubuntu
[13:38] <Weed37> yeah i see 2 drivers
[13:38] <TheFunkbomb> Weed37, do you see one for your video card?
[13:38] <mmm4m5m> Myrtti: nice, thanks
[13:38] <Weed37> i
[13:38] <clocKwize> Markeh: put more ram in your system, a faster hard drive, a faster processor, then remove all modules and stuff that are being loaded that aren't needed, then use a light weight window manager, few start up apps etc
[13:38] <scunizi> wraith0x2b: wecome back
[13:39] <Weed37> 1 is 180 other 173
[13:39] <vk> hi
[13:39] <chocobanana> wraith0x2b: it should have a CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor ready for you to add...
[13:39] <Weed37> the 180 is recomended
[13:39] <tiyowan> Markeh: Use a minimalist distribution.
[13:39] <TheFunkbomb> Weed37, then choose 180.
[13:39] <Dawsey> Tiyowan: what particular part of my hardware would be causing screen freezes, my graphics card / mobo, sorry but I'm not too sure what exactly the problem is.  Generalised searching is not returning anything similar to my situation
[13:39] <`andy> i've done an accidental chown of /*  and altough I broke it just in time
[13:39] <TheFunkbomb> is the green light on?
[13:39] <Markeh> Where do I get a light weight window manager from?
[13:39] <Weed37> ok i gotta restart lappy back in a few
[13:39] <TheFunkbomb> yeah
[13:39] <Weed37> kk
[13:39] <tiyowan> dawsey: What are your hardware specs? Graphics card?
[13:40] <scunizi> Markeh: synaptic
[13:40] <Markeh> Alright, looking now.
[13:40] <`andy> after i've done an accidental chown of /*  and altough I broke it just in time su root doesn't work anymore, altough the password is correct it gives me "su: incorrect password" any idea how to fix it ?
[13:40] <tiyowan> !xubuntu | markeh
[13:40] <tiyowan> Markeh: Xfce is pretty lightweight. So if Fluxbox.
[13:41] <Dawsey> Tiyowan: I have nvidia 7950gt
[13:41] <xieles> tiyowan, yeah I know that.. but can we install windows applications in linux using wine ?
[13:41] <soulwarp1> there are so many options for window managers for linux
[13:41] <tiyowan> xieles: Yes.
[13:41] <vk> hi
[13:41] <zortec> Hmm, an ubuntu user on twitter says that a minimal install is not going to work.  That I can use SUSE if I'm pressed for time...
[13:41] <Markeh> trying out Xfce now
[13:41] <Lost_Warior-> hello, anyone have expirience with some structural analysis software for linux ?
[13:41] <flintwingel> soulwarp1: lots... fun isn't it :)
[13:41] <tiyowan> Dawsey: One moment, please.
[13:41] <zortec> Why would anyone suggest SUSE? o.O
[13:41] <xieles> i tried that way. and installation went ok... but cant open it
[13:41] <scunizi> xieles: for compatability check with winehq.org
[13:41] <ericP> anyone recall the grub command to install grub from a different root? (/dev/sdb2 is mounted as /mnt and i need to update /dev/sdb with the grub menu in /mnt/boot/grub)
[13:42] <vk> hi
[13:42] <TheFunkbomb> hello
[13:42] <vk> how o change font color
[13:43] <Markeh> Dose Xfce allow the same kind of themes to be used? (GTK I think?)
[13:43] <tiyowan> Dawsey: Hmmm....seems to check out. Can you boot into the live CD?
[13:43] <clocKwize> Markeh: you'll have some themes...but probably not the extent that gnome does...thats why it's lightweight..it's got less in it ;)
[13:44] <Markeh> Ah, ok.
[13:44] <vk> how about this
[13:44] <Dawsey> tiyowan, yeah I can yet it also freezes eventually after about 10 minutes of use
[13:44] <tiyowan> Markeh < clocKwize
[13:44] <Lost_Warior-> ali nisam nista sam uspeo da nadjem a treba mi takav softver, please, i need help
[13:44] <tbergeron> Slart: no, no error messages. Nothing at all. I'm sshing into my vps, I do passwd and it when I'm finished entering my second password it freezes and I must quit my terminal and reconnect. And once I reconnect the password hasn't been changed.
[13:44] <Lost_Warior-> hello, anyone have expirience with some structural analysis software for linux ? please, i need help
[13:45] <tiyowan> Dawsey: Okay...so when you use the Live CD...after about ten minutes, it just hangs? Can you drop into a terminal when it hangs?
[13:45] <Slart> tbergeron: ooh. so the first part works... you get the password prompt twice
[13:45] <ezha> what's up now???
[13:46] <Weed37> TheFunkbomb, got it working thanks m8
[13:46] <lfaraone> how much time should it take to mkextfs over a 1TB volume?
[13:46] <erUSUL> lfaraone: ext3 ?
[13:46] <lfaraone> erUSUL: Yes.
[13:47] <Dawsey> tiyowan, yeah the screen just freezes and nothing happens, I remember I had this exact problem with 8.04 kubuntu install that fixed itself when I configured my xorg.conf.  In that situation the screen would freeze but I could type in a command in terminal blindly to cause a system beep and that would work.
[13:47] <xieles> scunizi, I have installed wine using apt-get
[13:47] <zhoujingrui> my ubuntu no voice
[13:47] <erUSUL> lfaraone: quite some time if it is a terabyte
[13:47] <zhoujingrui> who can help me
[13:47] <lfaraone> erUSUL: it's been going on for ~4 minutes.
[13:47] <Lost_Warior-> hello, anyone have expirience with some structural analysis software for linux ? please, i need help
[13:47] <lfaraone> erUSUL: Ok.
[13:47] <scunizi> xieles: for program compatabiliity in wine check their main site.  It saves the guess work..
[13:47] <TheFunkbomb> Weed37, no problem!
[13:47] <erUSUL> lfaraone: XFS or JFS mkfs are almost instantaneous but ext3 is not
[13:48] <lfaraone> erUSUL: k, thanks.
[13:48] <tiyowan> Dawsey: That's interesting. So you can actually access the terminal?
[13:48] <Slart> tbergeron: well.. I haven't seen this problem before.. I've tried changing passwords using ssh or regular terminal.. I've tried it on a server install 9.04 in a vm.. it worked every time
[13:49] <Dawsey> tiyowan: Not during this install I can't but I haven't tried to access the terminal on the live cd.  My cd drive and my hard drive are still active despite my screen being frozen so I have suspicion that the install is still going ahead.  Does the ubuntu install require any prompts upon completion and how long does it take because I'm wondering if I can do it blindly
[13:49] <chinosuke> I got message from stranger msn contact when I use pidgin messenger. Is it a bug or security issue?
[13:50] <Myrtti> chinosuke: it's normal when using msn, just don't open any links.
[13:50] <zhoujingrui> help me thanks my ubuntu no sound
[13:50] <G_A_C> chinosuke, it's to do with your privacy settings, maybe Pidgin is allowing unknown contacts where you would have set MSN Messenger to block them
[13:50] <zhoujingrui> no voice at all
[13:50] <histo> !sound > zhoujingrui
[13:50] <Myrtti> chinosuke: http://g0.fi/jEI
[13:51] <tbergeron> Slart: this is weird :S
[13:51] <tiyowan> Dawsey: Well, I'd recommend against rushing into the install blindly. Better to do a bit of testing with the Live CD first. Could you try that out now actually? Try booting into the Live CD, and checking whether you can get to a terminal when your system hangs.
[13:52] <clocKwize> guys, how do i know if my graphics card is fully accelerated etc?
[13:52] <Slart> tbergeron: and you are trying to change your regular user password?
[13:52] <tiyowan> Dawsey: Because it would be bad if you went ahead with the install only to find yourself with an unusable system.
[13:52] <Dawsey> tiyowan: Alright I will try but I will need to wait for it to freeze, what is a bash command that will cause a system beep on the live cd.
[13:53] <clocKwize> atm, i notice in vmware, it complains i don't have an hardware accelerator and it will decrease performance or something
[13:53] <histo> Dawsey: what version of ubuntu are you trying to install?
[13:53] <tiyowan> Dawsey: beep?
[13:53] <Dawsey> histo: 9.04
[13:53] <macvr> clocKwize: vmware with win7?
[13:53] <histo> tiyowan: I don't think beep is installed by default
[13:54] <Vonoff> Dawsey, the beep command
[13:54] <zortec> tiyowan: 60% done
[13:54] <tiyowan> Dawsey, histo: echo -en "\007"
[13:54] <histo> Dawsey: THe other option is to install with the alternate iso.
[13:54] <Slart> !info beep
[13:54] <clocKwize> macvr: yes, and os x
[13:54] <scunizi> clocKwize: do you mean the vm'd os complains?
[13:54] <clocKwize> no, i mean vm has a popup saying it that
[13:54] <clocKwize> vmware*
[13:54] <CheBuzz> Does anybody know why USB events (adding/removing devices) no longer shows up in the syslog?
[13:54] <Dawsey> tiyowan: When the screen is frozen on my old kubunt to install I could ctrl-alt-f1 into a terminal and type a command to system beep but I couldn't actually see anyhting my monitor would continue to display the frozen screen
[13:54] <CheBuzz> Running 8.04.  Working until about 1 week ago.
[13:55] <tiyowan> zortec: Ok.
[13:55] <mmm4m5m> Dawsey: Ctrl+G does beep
[13:55] <scunizi> clocKwize: that's weird because vmware can be run headless with no gui at all.  why would it care if it was running in an accelerated environment or not.  Have you installed vmware tools in the vm you're running?
[13:55] <tiyowan> Dawsey: Were you able to use your old kubuntu system properly eventually?
[13:56] <macvr> clocKwize: i get the same, its because vmware uses a software emulation of ur graphics card...
[13:56] <Dawsey> tiyowan: yeah when I eventually configured the xorg.conf correctly to work with the nvidia drivers all the freezing stopped completely
[13:57] <histo> Dawsey: so you are experiencing a problem with the nv drivers.  You can install the restrcited drivers on the live cd.
[13:57] <scunizi> clocKwize: macvr is correct for running virtual machines.. it does help to have vmware tools installed in the vm you're running.
[13:57] <clocKwize> i see, so.. why does it use software rendering?
[13:58] <ManDay> Hello, my BACKSPACE key doesnt work as "Back" in Firefox - what is wrong?
[13:58] <tbergeron> Slart: i tried with root and my user aswell..
[13:58] <clocKwize> ManDay: lol, i noticed that...rather annoying
[13:58] <zortec> ManDay: Is the key broken?
[13:58] <ManDay> No. It still works perfectly fine
[13:58] <macvr> clocKwize: u can try virtualbox, they have a new experimental 3D acceleration with is suppoed to use the graphics card , but it doesnt work for my card u can try it though...
[13:59] <scunizi> clocKwize: all virtual machines do becausee it's creating a layer between the virtual machine and your actual machine.. a vm can't access the video card directly.
[13:59] <tiyowan> Dawsey: Sorry, I was afk. Well. It's up to you then. If you've got some time on your hands, then I suppose you could skip the testing, and try installing from the alternate installer, and then pop back in here and have some of the folks help you setup your card properly from the get-go.
[13:59] <clocKwize> well, anyway, i'm not too bothered about vmware problem
[13:59] <clocKwize> i just want to know if my actual ubuntu install is picking up the correct display drivers and being accelerated?
[14:00] <macvr> clocKwize: if compiz and extra grahics settings are working... u r good
[14:00] <clocKwize> i downloaded a game, can't remember what it's called ,but it runs at like 1fps with gfx up high and about 15 fps if they are normal..which is a damn sight less than i'd get in windows
[14:00] <scunizi> clocKwize: if you're running ubuntu in a vm then it's probably set itself up for a generic video driver..
[14:01] <zortec> ManDay: Try the following and see if it helps: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/make-backspace-key-work-correctly-in-firefox-on-linux/
[14:01] <clocKwize> scunizi: ignore the vm thing, i'm not running in a vm
[14:01] <helper> hello i add new partition , /dev/sda3 i want to add /home to it . on fstab so i can use quota on it, how ? thx
[14:01] <clocKwize> i'm running things in a vm in ubuntu
[14:01] <clocKwize> but disregard anything to do with vm
[14:01] <Dawsey> tiyowan:  I guess so, I'm going to try installing one more time before I go to sleep,  considering the hard drive / cd rom activity and my prior experience of things still running behind the frozen screen I think I may try and install despite it being frozen.
[14:01] <scampbell> ManDay: the backspace function to previous page was removed because it caused some webpages to not function correctly.  You can turn it on in the link you just saw but consider not doing so.
[14:02] <chocobanana> zortec: did it work?
[14:02] <Lost_Warior-> hello, anyone have expirience with some structural analysis software for linux ? please, i need help
[14:02] <zortec> chocobanana: I'm waiting for the download to finish. 75%
[14:02] <ManDay> Ok scampbell
[14:02] <Dawsey> tiyowan:  Are there any prompts at the end of install or does it just say eject your cd and restart upon completion
[14:02] <ManDay> Whats the right shortcut for BACK then, scampbell ?
[14:02] <zortec> chocobanana: Still doing the first method
[14:02] <chocobanana> Lost_Warior-: www.caelinux.com/
[14:02] <scampbell> ManDay: the button in so far as I know.
[14:02] <tiyowan> Dawsey: I don't think there are any prompts.
[14:03] <zortec> Dawsey: There are no prompts.
[14:03] <ManDay> The button "what", scampbell ?
[14:03] <Lost_Warior-> dhocobanana thank youl, i`ll check it
[14:03] <Dawsey> tiyowan:  Excellent and thanks for your help, if it doesn't work I'll have a look at histo idea tomorrow of installing the nv drivers on the live cd and see how that works.
[14:04] <scampbell> ManDay: there isn't one that I know of, just clicking the button sadly.
[14:04] <tiyowan> Dawsey: No problem; have a good night.
[14:04] <Lost_Warior-> wao, it`s hole distribution for structural analysis
[14:04] <Lost_Warior-> :)
[14:04] <Dawsey> You too
[14:04] <Lost_Warior-> whole
[14:04] <ManDay> wha that aint nice scampbell
[14:04] <ManDay> but thanks
[14:04] <Gons01> ONLINE Strategy GAME >> http://href.hu/x/95rh >OR< http://www.hackthat.net/df/ddos/74576/index.hack ! NO DOWNLOAD NEEDED !
[14:04] <djones> helper: This has some information on moving your /home to a different partition https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[14:04] <Gamarok__> !paste
[14:04] <scampbell> ManDay: I lie!  Alt-LeftArrow
[14:05] <ManDay> hm... better than nothing thanks
[14:06] <djones> !home | helper There's also this documentation that helps
[14:06] <ManDay> you know how to change it to something like F3 ?
[14:06] <zortec> ManDay: If it is possible, I would check in about:config
[14:07] <Gons01> ONLINE Strategy GAME >> http://href.hu/x/95rh >OR< http://www.hackthat.net/df/ddos/74576/index.hack ! NO DOWNLOAD NEEDED !
[14:07] <ManDay> But I dont know what to enter there zortec
[14:07] <tiyowan> !ads
[14:07] <tiyowan> Heh
[14:07] <sjlkg> hi, does anyone know if it is possible to chat between two ubuntu pcs using bluetooth?
[14:07] <tiyowan> !off-topic | Gons01
[14:08] <helper> hello i add new partition , /dev/sda3 i want to add /home to it . on fstab so i can use quota on it, how ? thx
[14:08] <zortec> ManDay: browser.backspace_action
[14:08] <nono_> r irc.voila.fr
[14:08] <ManDay> I know zortec but what goes in there?
[14:08] <ManDay> for f3 for instance
[14:08] <scampbell> ManDay: zero means the old behaviour there. It doesn't change which key.
[14:09] <ManDay> Hm. I wish I could change it then
[14:09] <scampbell> ManDay: and, of course, if you set to zero and some Java page doesn't let you backspace you know why.
[14:09] <ManDay> Yes
[14:09] <zortec> Manday: That just controls the behavior.  I don't know of anything that changes the shortcut.
[14:10] <quinn> hello
[14:10] <cptblood> i seem to have a problem with my dinovo mini keyboard, only the mousepad is functioning, when acting as a mouse, keyboard isnt
[14:11] <zortec> I hope this usb install does it, 92%
[14:11] <quinn> I cannot delete a shortcut on my desktop, can anyone help me
[14:11] <zortec> It would be nice to have Ubuntu installed before my birthday. :)
[14:11] <zortec> That is 12 days away.
[14:11] <root> hello blues
[14:11] <TheFunkbomb> quinn, open terminal.  type in sudo rm /home/username/Desktop/file
[14:11] <wattson> hello
[14:12] <wattson> may somebody please help me ?
[14:12] <TheFunkbomb> ooh it's a shortcut
[14:12] <wattson> (first time around here..)
[14:12] <TheFunkbomb> quinn, what does it say when you try to delete it?
[14:12] <erUSUL> !ask | wattson
[14:12] <tiyowan> !ask | wattson
[14:12] <zortec> Wattson: If you ask your question and someone knows, they will answer. :)
[14:13] <TheFunkbomb> tiyowan, so far it seems like that process closes out by itself.  it's only when FF crashes I guess.
[14:13] <sjlkg> is it possible to chat between two ubuntu pcs using bluetooth?
[14:13] <tiyowan> zortec: 12 days is plenty of time to install Ubuntu. :)
[14:13] <quinn> TheFunkBomb, it says no such file or directory
[14:13] <cptblood> i seem to have a problem with my dinovo mini keyboard, only the mousepad is functioning, when acting as a mouse, keyboard isnt.. it works when switching to another pc
[14:13] <zortec> tiyowan: That doesn't mean I want to spend 12 days doing it. :)
[14:13] <TheFunkbomb> quinn, that's when you try to delete it via the gui?
[14:13] <wattson> where can i find a full "guide" (a simple one) that could introduce me to all of nUbuntu's utilities(for ex:spoonwep,the bluetooth utilities etc..)
[14:13] <quinn> yes
[14:14] <TheFunkbomb> quinn, what happens if you try to delete it through terminal?
[14:14] <tiyowan> TheFunkbomb: Interesting...perhaps it's the other way around? The plugin crashes and refuses to close even when firefox has been closed?
[14:14] <zortec> wattson: Did you try google?
[14:14] <racarter> is there a way to tell firefox to use a different sound device?
[14:14] <TheFunkbomb> tiyowan, we shall see.
[14:14] <wattson> yes i did
[14:14] <Pici> wattson: nUbuntu is not an official Ubuntu distribution, so you should try from wherever you got it from.
[14:14] <erUSUL> wattson: ubuntu pocket guide ? ubuntu guide ?
[14:14] <racarter> i think it's just flash I'm concerned about htough
[14:14] <racarter> though*
[14:14] <quinn> TheFunkbomb, i will try it now
[14:14] <tiyowan> zortec: I'm an optimist. You'll be Ubuntu'ed within 12 days.
[14:14] <TheFunkbomb> hi pici!  LTNS
[14:15] <wattson> i found a guide about ubuntu,but not about nUbuntu
[14:15] <cptblood> works when trying to access bios etc, but when ubuntu has started, it just wont accept the dinovo keys, only mouse pad (when in "mouse-mode")
[14:15] <TheFunkbomb> wattson, this is not a nUbuntu support channel
[14:15] <Pici> TheFunkbomb: hi.
[14:15] <zortec> tiyowan: I commend your optimism. :)
[14:15] <wattson> what is this then ?^o)
[14:15] <zortec> tiyowan: I persevere so I usually succeed.
[14:16] <racarter> hum, so I have a different sound device connected via usb... how do I make firefox/flash use that device?
[14:16] <Slart> !#ubuntu | wattson
[14:16] <TheFunkbomb> this is an Ubuntu support channel.
[14:16] <Myrtti> wattson: _Ubuntu_ support
[14:16] <tiyowan> zortec: Indeed. Out of curiosity...do you have a linux user group near your location? It really helps to have more people physically present to provide assistance.
[14:16] <zortec> What is nUbuntu?
[14:16] <histo> wattson: you can search for apps in synaptic or use the command line apropos (search term)  or man -k (search term)    you need to learn how ot use the man pages.
[14:16] <quinn> TheFunkbomb, it says the exact same thing
[14:16] <Slart> zortec: a distro derived from ubuntu
[14:16] <histo> wattson: there is tons of documentation built in to ubuntu in the man pages.
[14:16] <TheFunkbomb> quinn, that's certainly a doozy
[14:17] <cptblood> anyone have an idea what could be causing this?
[14:17] <zortec> tiyowan: There may be some lugs around here... I didn't look into it too much.
[14:17] <scampbell> ManDay:  http://www.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html#keys   <-- I found that on how to reassign keys.  FWIW, I stick with my "consider not changing it", just adapt to alt-larrow.  We can assume more code will come making that a problem.
[14:17] <helper> hello i add new partition , /dev/sda3 i want to add /home to it . on fstab so i can use quota on it, how ? thx
[14:17] <quinn> warrson,what is your problem?
[14:17] <wraith0x2b> man I missed ubuntu. some nice features since I last used it...
[14:18] <wattson> my problem is that this is the first time i run nUbuntu.i got fed up with windows
[14:18] <zortec> Wattson: You can also usually apt-get which is faster than going through the gui.
[14:18] <histo> wattson: well if there is a specific problem or program you need help with just ask.  People here will be able to help you.
[14:18] <itshorty> hello! uptime and w shows "0 users" but i am logged in with a nonsystem accout? anybody an answer to this strange behavior?
[14:18] <zortec> wattson: use, sorry for the typo
[14:18] <djones> !home | helper This documentation should help you moving your /home partition, see ubottu's links for the details
[14:18] <wattson> apte-get means ?(whenever you're sick of me asking questions just say it,ill leave u in peace)
[14:19] <TheFunkbomb> quinn, one last thing.  open terminal again and type in gksudo nautilus
[14:19] <Slart> !info console-terminus
[14:19] <cptblood> i seem to have a problem with my dinovo mini keyboard, only the mousepad is functioning, when acting as a mouse that is, keyboard isnt.. it works when switching to another pc, any ideas?
[14:19] <quinn> TheFunkbomb, OK
[14:19] <zortec> wattson: It's the text based version of synaptic.  So if you know a certain package that you want to install you just do sudo apt-get "package"
[14:19] <Slart> wattson: why not run the regular ubuntu? why use a rather narrow distro like nubuntu?
[14:19] <histo> wattson: its like using Applicaitons > Add/Remove just for terminal
[14:20] <TheFunkbomb> quinn, then find the shortcut and try it.
[14:20] <sjlkg> is it possible to chat between two ubuntu pcs using bluetooth?
[14:21] <histo> Slart: nubuntu just has extra security utilities added by default
[14:21] <zortec> tiyowan: I found two user groups near me.
[14:21] <wattson> Slart , im trying nubuntu because it has spoonwep and other interesting utilities
[14:21] <quinn> TheFunkBomb, It worked, it deleted it, thank you
[14:21] <tiyowan> zortec: That's superb. :) Perhaps you could attend some meetings, eh?
[14:21] <gedO> hey guys
[14:21] <gedO> how are you?
[14:21] <TheFunkbomb> no problem quinn
[14:21] <Slart> histo: yes, but why go with that as a first linux distro.. seems to make things more complicated than they ought to be
[14:22] <erUSUL> !hi | gedO
[14:22] <gedO> i am having one problem, can someone help? :)
[14:22] <erUSUL> !ask | gedO
[14:22] <cptblood> i seem to have a problem with my dinovo mini keyboard, only the mousepad is functioning, when acting as a mouse that is, keyboard isnt.. it works when switching to another pc, any ideas?
[14:23] <zortec> tiyowan: They are not too far away, just have to make sure they are not going to conflict with work.
[14:23] <gedO> while i am calling with skype and nobody can't hear me
[14:23] <gedO> how to sett my microfone?
[14:23] <helper> djones there is no partition editor on system/administrator
[14:23] <gedO> how to set my microfone?
[14:23] <zortec> USB installation completed.... I need to reboot
[14:23] <tiyowan> Ok, I'm taking a short break.
[14:23] <zortec> I'll set my bios to start from USB (it should be supported)
[14:24] <gedO> how to set my microfone
[14:24] <gedO> ?
[14:24] <histo> wattson: there is the wiki pages and most the documentation should work with nubuntu as well. The only thing that would be different is stuff related to the GUI.
[14:25] <wattson> thanks a lot histo
[14:25] <gedO> can someone explane my how to set my microfone, becouse it isn't working
[14:26] <gedO> come on someone :D
[14:26] <wattson> ok i'll ask some questions.....whats the replacement of "msn" on nubuntu(ubuntu) and where can i find it ?
[14:26] <itshorty> hello! uptime and w shows "0 users" but i am logged in with a nonsystem accout? anybody an answer to this strange behavior?
[14:27] <gedO> Guys who can help me to set my microfone ?
[14:28] <wattson> hazardous t dou de france?
[14:28] <Pici> !pidgin | wattson
[14:28] <Doug_D> hey y'all. I got a problem with my nvidia-drivers. I ran "aptitude install inux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r` linux-generic" to fix my sound (as per SoundTroubleshooting via help.ubuntu.com, which worked) however now when I got to recompile my nvidia drivers, that works, but they don't seem to work after running the nvidia.run driver file
[14:28] <Doug_D> +l
[14:29] <wraith0x2b> dow do I search for a package with apt-get again?
[14:29] <wraith0x2b> haven't used it in a while
[14:29] <cole_> Hi all, im trying to upgrade to 8.04 from 7.10, im getting hash sum mismatch "Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 8.04.2 _Hardy Heron_ - Release i386 (20090121.2)]/pool/main/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-style-human_2.4.1-1ubuntu2.1_all.deb Hash Sum mismatch" anyone know how to fix this?
[14:29] <gedO> hey guys, i ma having problem with microfone settings. I can't talk at skype. Can someone help?
[14:29] <zeeble> apt-cache search packagename
[14:29] <Pici> wraith0x2b: apt-cache search something
[14:29] <wraith0x2b> cheers
[14:29] <zeeble> gedO: i have the same prob too.. but .. dunno
[14:29] <wraith0x2b> not installed package...I want to install one
[14:29] <wraith0x2b> terminus font to be exact
[14:29] <wattson> ok , another one : im running ubuntu from a live CD , and it's so slow.any way to make it faster without having to install it ?
[14:30] <JDShewey> Does anyone know of a program like iotop for windows?
[14:30] <gedO> so, what to do?
[14:30] <zeeble> though i did try to unmute everything with alsamixer
[14:30] <gedO> zeeble, so what to do?
[14:30] <zeeble> gedO: well, wait for someone to help :)
[14:30] <zeeble> JDShewey: what does iotop do? functionally?
[14:30] <itshorty> hello! uptime and w shows "0 users" but i am logged in with a nonsystem accout? anybody an answer to this strange behavior?
[14:30] <Vlet> wattson: the slowness is likely caused by the system having to read off the CD; perhaps running off a nice thumb drive or a faster CDrom?
[14:31] <JDShewey> zeeble: it's like top, but for disk io. It tells you which processes are using how much time reading from and writing to your disk.
[14:31] <zeeble> JDShewey: ah, nice. dunno about the windows equivalent.
[14:31] <wattson> if i install it on an external HD , u think itll be better?
[14:32] <Vlet> wattson: surely
[14:32] <disappearedng> hey unrelated question: what' s the font they always use in math proofs
[14:32] <Pici> !ot | disappearedng
[14:32] <cptblood> i seem to have a problem with my dinovo mini keyboard, only the mousepad is functioning, when acting as a mouse that is, keyboard isnt.. it works when switching to another pc, any ideas?
[14:33] <wattson> how can i do that ? (willing to leave the internal HD intact ==>when i dont plug the external, i want the pc to start normally)
[14:33] <Vlet> disappearedng: yeah, pretty offtopic, but: http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/bylanguage/math.html#browsers
[14:33] <Vlet> disappearedng: couldn't help but be curious and look it up myself ;)
[14:34] <itshorty> hello! uptime and w shows "0 users" but i am logged in with a nonsystem accout? anybody an answer to this strange behavior?
[14:34] <cptblood> somebody please help me
[14:34] <Vlet> wattson: mm... if I remember correctly, you need to have a system (bios) capable of booting off a USB device; you set USB as the first boot device, and HDD second
[14:35] <Slart> disappearedng: if you are trying to write math I suggest using latex or lyx.. openoffice has a plugin to use latex for math formulas
[14:35] <zeeble> gedO: try this. goto system - preferences - sound
[14:35] <wattson> ok thanks a lot
[14:35] <gedO> yes
[14:35] <gedO> zeeble, yes and? :D
[14:35] <disappearedng> Slart: lol I am actually talking about fonts like this: www.math.wisc.edu/~boston/869.pdf
[14:36] <zeeble> gedO: and the one at the bottom,  - default mixer tracks - choose the ALSA mixer
[14:36] <dfs1> blender is freeing the computer since i upgraded to jaunty
[14:36] <dfs1> freezing
[14:36] <Slart> disappearedng: let me say it again..... l a t e x
[14:36] <administrator> hey everybody
[14:36] <Slart> disappearedng: or lyx if you feel less hardcore =)
[14:36] <disappearedng> Slart: I ma nor writing math!!
[14:36] <itshorty> anybody an idea why uptime diplays 0 users if i login with ssh
[14:36] <disappearedng> I just want to type in that font
[14:36] <wattson> anyone knows how to use the "sniffers"?
[14:37] <Pici> !offtopic
[14:37] <eurythmia> disappearedng, well, it's done in LaTeX ... or using lyx ....
[14:37] <zeeble> i stick to using lyx.. it works fine for what i do
[14:37] <shesek> I've setup samba server on my ubuntu (server edition). each user has its own folder, and I want to add a folder to be shared among all users (or to a specific group). how can I do that?
[14:37] <erUSUL> disappearedng: just use latex to type your docs then
[14:37] <Vlet> cptblood: I don't know the answer, but you should check your dmesg to see what it says about the device
[14:37] <eurythmia> zeeble, same here.
[14:37] <zeeble> eurythmia: my dad is old school.. writing his papers with emacs. hehe.
[14:37] <Slart> disappearedng: the fonts aren't truetypefonts iirc.. they are called stuff like cmm.. Computer Modern etc
[14:38] <eurythmia> zeeble, eewwww ... *not going to start a flame war*
[14:38] <Pici> Again, this is not Ubuntu related...
[14:38] <eurythmia> ;)
[14:38] <disappearedng> Slart: thx
[14:38] <Slart> disappearedng: search for latex fonts in synaptic.. I think there was a package or two to either install or convert them to truetype
[14:38] <Vlet> shesek: check out this to see how they set up /tmp http://tldp.org/LDP/solrhe/Securing-Optimizing-Linux-RH-Edition-v1.3/chap29sec284.html
[14:38] <dfs1> help blender is not working since i upgraded to jaunty
[14:38] <erUSUL> Slart: disappearedng althought i think there are computer modern trutype fonts or at least type1
[14:38] <shesek> Vlet, thanks
[14:38] <zeeble> dfs1: file a bug report
[14:39] <cptblood> Vlet: i dont see any immediate errors
[14:39] <Slart> erUSUL: I've got them in openoffice... but I can't really remember what I had to do to get them there
[14:39] <dfs1> but is it working for others
[14:39] <itshorty> anybody an idea?
[14:39] <porjo> Hi, I'm trying to get Jaunty + ATI Radeon + Compiz working
[14:39] <c4pt> is there a way to mount hfs+ raid in ubuntu ?
[14:40] <porjo> I've got the ATI proprietary fglrx driver running
[14:40] <porjo> but can't see how to enable compiz!?
[14:40]  * zeeble has no compiz. intel 965m graphics driver
[14:40] <zeeble> card even
[14:40] <Guest34413> anyone use VM
[14:40] <erUSUL> Slart: maybe ...    cm-super-x11                    - Make the cm-super fonts available to X11
[14:40] <Slart> erUSUL: sounds like a probable candidate =)
[14:41] <Vlet> !anyone | Guest34413
[14:41] <dfs1> why is blender freezing my computer
[14:42] <Vlet> dfs1: I'm probably not the right guy to solve the problem, but I would guess it's got something to do with your video card drivers
[14:43] <dfs1> how do i upgrade my graphics drivers
[14:43] <cptblood> works when i choose another kernel to run
[14:44] <dfs1> cptblood
[14:44] <Jack_Sparrow> dfs1 Does it happen if you have compiz effects turned off
[14:44] <cptblood> which graphics card do u have dfs1?
[14:44] <dfs1> intel 82945g
[14:44] <dfs1> jack sparrow compiz never worked for me
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> dfs1 What video card?
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry see it now
[14:45] <dfs1> intel 82945g
[14:45] <dfs1> it came with the mother board
[14:45] <dfs1> there must be some command to update drivers right
[14:45] <cyford> msg nickserv identify <your-password>
[14:45] <davidh38> hey guys, does anyone know, where i could lookup the meaning of some basic linux folder like "opt", i am not interested in what it contains but in the abbreaviation which it stands for
[14:46] <Jack_Sparrow> dfs1 I would assume that if you get your video drivers setup correctly you will have compiz and a better blender
[14:46] <Slart> !fhs
[14:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !files
[14:46] <Pici> !intel | dfs1
[14:46] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks pici
[14:46] <Vlet> davidh38: http://www.linuxjunkies.org/articles/file-system.html
[14:46] <zeeble> dfs1: afaik, there's problems with intel drivers for xorg. which is why it doesnt work for me either - compiz, ie. the updated drivers will goto karmic.
[14:46] <sjlkg> hey, is it possible to chat between two ubuntu pcs using bluetooth, and if so, how?
[14:46] <davidh38> thx guys
[14:46] <zortec> I could not boot from the usb drive...
[14:47] <zeeble> there's an ugly fix.. to tell compiz to run without checks, but that's not a recommended solution
[14:47] <zortec> There was an option in the bios, but it didn't boot with unetbootin so is the minimal install my only option?
[14:48] <BromaxSux> what does an amp (&) at the end of a shell command do?
[14:48] <wattson> how can we send a msg in centerim ?
[14:48] <Slart> BromaxSux: sends it to background
[14:48] <zortec> BromaxSux: Run the process in the background
[14:49] <erUSUL> BromaxSux: it push the process to background
[14:49] <Slart> BromaxSux: ie it keeps running and you can use the shell for more stuff
[14:49] <ST47> Having some trouble with complete system lockups, how does one go about debugging this?
[14:49] <BromaxSux> thank you!
[14:49] <Vlet> BromaxSux: launches missles! don't do it!
[14:49] <BromaxSux> Vlet: oops :-/
[14:49] <dfs1> zeeble what do u mean by karmic
[14:49] <erUSUL> ST47: look the various logs for error msgs
[14:50] <dfs1> how do i setup my video drivers
[14:50] <Jack_Sparrow> ST47 With details about which release of ubuntu you are using and what repos have been added to your sources and what you have installed manually
[14:50] <ST47> erUSUL: none exist, save for a few in the xorg log saying register soandso changed from 0x00000000 to something
[14:50] <Slart> !karmic
[14:51] <erUSUL> ST47: do the keyboard leds blink when the machine lockups ??
[14:51] <ST47> erUSUL: no
[14:51] <ST47> Ubuntu 9.04
[14:51] <erUSUL> ST47: can you access the machine via ssh or does it responds to ping ? ie: it is just an Xorg lockup
[14:51] <erUSUL> ?
[14:52] <ST47> I have the canonical jaunty repositories, the security.ubuntu.com, us.archive.ubuntu.com, ddebs.ubuntu.com, and the google chromium
[14:52] <dfs1> hey can i dowload drivers form intel
[14:52] <ST47> erUSUL: it appears to be a complete lock up
[14:52] <ST47> No network, no drive activity
[14:52] <gnurph69> Is there anybody running VMWare Server in Ubuntu online at the moment?  (I have a question and don't want to start a holy war over different VM products.)
[14:52] <erUSUL> ST47: and nothing appears in /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog ?
[14:53]  * Vlet scans the room looking for theists...
[14:53] <Vlet> gnurph69: maybe just ask anyway
[14:54] <zortec> !usb
[14:54] <ST47> I have a bunch of ext4 find_group_flex failed errors in /var/log messages
[14:54] <Doug_D>  I got a problem with my nvidia-drivers. I ran "aptitude install linux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r` linux-generic" to fix my sound (as per SoundTroubleshooting via help.ubuntu.com, which worked) however now when I got to recompile my nvidia drivers, that works, but they don't seem to work after running the nvidia.run driver file
[14:54] <ST47> But these are all the time, nut just prior to a crash
[14:54] <zortec> I can't get the live cd to work, or the text based installer... should I just go with a minimal cd?
[14:54] <erUSUL> ST47: can i take a look at them ? maybe there is something to report
[14:54] <erUSUL> !notes
[14:55] <nonono> hello how do you check ALL your spec on ubuntu jaunty 9.04
[14:55] <zortec> The problem I have is my graphics is not supported.
[14:55] <sidh> greetings gentlemen
[14:55] <zortec> I have been at this for 2 days now.
[14:55] <TheFunkbomb> zortec, what card do you have?
[14:55] <Jack_Sparrow> zortec To get live cd to run this often helps..At start or install press F4 and select safe graphics mode then press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash use the noapic acpi=off options before the "--"
[14:55] <erUSUL> ST47: could be this known problem https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes#Lock-ups%20when%20deleting%20files%20from%20ext4%20filesystems ?
[14:55] <patinhofeio> Hello
[14:55] <sidh> i would need some help to debug a problem i have with the soundcard on a brand new laptop
[14:56] <zortec> nvidia nForce 610i/nvidia geforce 7300
[14:56] <nonono> hello how do you check ALL your specs on ubuntu jaunty 9.04??
[14:56] <ST47> Yes
[14:56] <Slart> !repeat | nonono
[14:56] <patinhofeio> is there any torrent shell client for ubuntu?
[14:56] <TheFunkbomb> zortec, did you try installing the restricted drivers?
[14:56] <erUSUL> nonono: what specs ? your hardware ?
[14:56] <zortec> Jack_Sparrow: I tried safe graphics mode, didn't remove quiet and splash from the command line though.
[14:56] <nonono> ye
[14:56] <erUSUL> patinhofeio: rtorrent
[14:56] <Slart> patinhofeio: have you looked at rtorrent?
[14:56] <zortec> I can't get the restricted drivers from the live cd... if I can't get the installer to work
[14:56] <Jack_Sparrow> zortec apci etc are also important
[14:56] <erUSUL> nonono: sudo lshw
[14:56] <ST47> erUSUL: That sounds like it, thanks, I'll look into that
[14:56] <patinhofeio> [Slart] no i have not
[14:56] <sidh> i've change the /etc/modprobe.d/alsabase.conf
[14:56] <gnurph69> okay, my problem:  VMware doesn't seem to be started; I did a bunch of updates recently (VMWare wasn't running at the time), and it doesn't appear that the service is running and I can't find a web page that tells me what service to try and start.  Any ideas?
[14:56] <nonono> ty
[14:56] <erUSUL> ST47: no problem
[14:56] <Slart> !info rtorrent | patinhofeio
[14:57] <sidh> after a 'sudo alsa force-reload' it seems to work
[14:57] <TheFunkbomb> oh the installer doesn't work...  Ubuntu has a CLI install, right?
[14:57] <sidh> BUT
[14:57] <sjlkg> hey, is it possible to chat between two ubuntu pcs using bluetooth, and if so, how?
[14:57] <sidh> if i reboot
[14:57] <nonono> erUSUL:command not found
[14:57] <stefan__> hello
[14:57] <Pici> !enter | sidh
[14:57] <erUSUL> nonono: impossible
[14:57] <Slart> sjlkg: why not start by trying to use bluetooth to create a network connection between them... after that, chatting is easy
[14:57] <sidh> Pici: ok let's try again
[14:58] <TheFunkbomb> why not just chat over the internets!
[14:58] <erUSUL> nonono: sudo aptitude install lshw
[14:58] <nonono> erUSUL: soz typed in ssh client
[14:58] <erUSUL> nonono: is installed by default in ubuntu
[14:58] <zortec> I'll try the tips Jack Sparrow had and see if that works.  But what happens when I try to enter the installer is I get a Busybox.
[14:58] <TheFunkbomb> sudo aptitude install lshw?!  what?
[14:58] <zortec> That is using the live cd and text based one.
[14:58] <ecmn> does one of you experience rolling back will installing vmware ws6.5?
[14:59] <TheFunkbomb> isn't lshw just "list hardware"?
[14:59] <ecmn> what seems be the problem?
[14:59] <ecmn> tnx
[14:59] <Jack_Sparrow> zortec without quiet and splash you mayu be able to see what is not working right
[14:59] <xenocrates> has anyone got ubuntu 9.04 running on a Dell LATITUDE D610?
[14:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !laptop
[15:00] <zortec> Jack_Sparrow: thanks, hopefully it will give me some information
[15:00] <erUSUL> TheFunkbomb: it is aprogram that can be installed and removed just like any other one
[15:00] <TheFunkbomb> I see
[15:00] <TheFunkbomb> doesn't lshw come stock though?  Who would remove that?
[15:00] <Slart> !info lshw
[15:00] <erUSUL> TheFunkbomb: comes stock yes
[15:01] <sidh> i have problems with sound card on a brand new laptop, at the beginig there was no sound, i follow this link http://www.linlap.com/wiki/hp-compaq+6830s to modify the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , and after a sudo alsa force-reload i have sound BUT at reboot, i have sound (drums) while gdm step, but once authenticated, i don't have sound anymore, and i don't have the speaker icon on the top menu bar (near the wireless icon), does someone could help me to fi
[15:02] <Jack_Sparrow> sidh try /join #alsa
[15:02] <davidh38> ubottu, do you know, what etc means?
[15:03] <davidh38> hey, guys do you know what etc means?
[15:03] <sidh> i run ubuntu 9.04 AMD64 version on hp 6830s
[15:03] <sidh> ok Jack_Sparrow
[15:04] <mrp> does anyone know how i can my kernel and only compile the ptched part as a moudle?
[15:04] <erUSUL> davidh38: exactly that etc --> "et caetera" --> and everything else
[15:04] <erUSUL> mrp: depending on the patch you have to rebuild the entire kernel
[15:05] <mrp> erUSUL: it is a pattch for mac80211
[15:05] <mrp> erUSUL: net/mac80211/tx.c in particular
[15:05] <paolo> i'm sorry, there is somebody that can help me with an audio card that don't want to function?
[15:05] <patinhofeio> [Slart] but is rtorrent command line?
[15:06] <erUSUL> mrp: maybe it is easier to install linux-backports-modules ? (it comes with nwer wifi drivers) or compile linux-compact-wireless drivers
[15:06] <Slart> patinhofeio: what does it look like? http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/Screenshots
[15:06] <patinhofeio> :( sorry
[15:06] <dfs1> how do i downgrade from 9.04 to 8.10
[15:07] <erUSUL> davidh38: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etc.
[15:07] <Pici> dfs1: You don't. We do not support downgrading.
[15:07] <paolo> ii'm sorry, there is somebody that can help me with an audio card that don't want to function?
[15:07] <mrp> erUSUL: i have tried the backport-modules with no dice.  ok i tried to complile this module now it is sitting in /lib/modules how do i clean it up?
[15:07] <tkmr> paolo: What's the problem?
[15:07] <erUSUL> mrp: remove it
[15:08] <erUSUL> mrp: then sudo depmod -a
[15:08] <slobad23> is there a way to boot my windows partiton while in ubuntu with virtual box or equivelant?
[15:08] <mrp> erUSUL: just rm it?
[15:08] <paolo> the audio card stop function whitout an apparent  cause
[15:08] <erUSUL> mrp: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download
[15:08] <erUSUL> mrp: yep
[15:08] <Tetracomm> Hello, Ubuntu people.
[15:08] <tkmr> paolo: have you checked your drivers?
[15:08] <davidh38> erUSUL thx
[15:09] <mrp> erUSUL: my wireless works good but just having trouble with ath5k doing injection ;)
[15:09] <Vlet> slobad23: it may be possible; best consult the virtualbox people
[15:09] <paolo> can you help me? i'm new in ubuntu ...
[15:09] <erUSUL> mrp: oops is for aircrack... then i dunno
[15:09] <slobad23> paolo, dont ask people to help and not tell them what you want help with... ask the question and see what people respond :P
[15:09] <tkmr> paolo: do you know if it is an onboard sound card, or a dedicated card?
[15:09] <Vlet> paolo: We can try. It's best to provide as many details with your question. No one here is magic as far as I know
[15:10] <zortec> It drops me in a busybox every time.  I tried all of the options Jack_Sparrow
[15:10] <slobad23> Vlet, i am magic, i just dont like to brag about it
[15:10] <zortec> The screen is scrolling too fast as well.
[15:10] <Jack_Sparrow> zortec Sorry, those often help.
[15:10] <dfs1> pici have just read an article that ubuntu 9.04 is gone from bad to worse in supporting intel graphics card. so i have no choice but to downgrade
[15:10] <zortec> The only other option I can think of is the minimal install.
[15:11] <Jack_Sparrow> dfs1 revert to a backup from 8.10
[15:11] <zortec> I'm so frustrated, been working on this for awhile.
[15:11] <slobad23> dfs1, ubuntu 9.04 is the only linux i can get to boot on my samsung q4 unfortunately so i HAVE to use it without great support for its intel graphics :(
[15:11] <paolo> the audio card is onboard, the motherboard is an intel and the alsa driver version is 1.0.18rc3
[15:11] <Jack_Sparrow> zortec did you search google for ubuntu and your hardware / motherboard etc
[15:12] <zortec> Jack_Sparrow: I did, it's a known bug in ubuntu.
[15:12] <tkmr> paolo: Laptop or Desktop?
[15:12] <cluster2> hey all, i just finished rebooting my computer and now i dont seem to have permission to use sudo, any ideas why?
[15:12] <paolo> desktop
[15:12] <dfs1> b4 i came across people saying how wonderful ubuntu was. but now it is ... i odnt even have to say. it is all hype
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> zortec Wish I had a fix.. sorry
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> dfs1 Please drop the commentary
[15:12] <Fzang> how do I remove apps installed from source? In this case it's AWN
[15:13] <dfs1> sorry but it is really annoying
[15:13] <zortec> tiyowan suggested I do a usb install.  If that doesn't work, chocobanana suggested a minmal install.
[15:13] <_dr> can someone point me to any good documentation on how to customize the window manager?
[15:13] <dfs1> i will go away
[15:13] <_dr> what i want is to turn certain windows transparent and remove the window decorations
[15:13] <zortec> Jack_Sparrow: It's not your fault.  I have just spent about 2 days trying to get ubuntu installed and I have a headache.
[15:14] <cluster2> is there some way to actually login as a root account in ubuntu?
[15:14] <tkmr> paolo: obviously make sure everything is plugged in... check your hardware drivers and your settings to make sure that the card is the default sound player
[15:14] <legend2440> it seems since jaunty uses xorg 1.6 that my ati radeon 9600 no longer has s-video tv out capabilities. i am probably going to get a geforce 6200. does anyone here have any first hand knowledge as to whether tv out works with jaunty and the geforce 6200?
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> cluster2 sudo or gksudo
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !noroot
[15:14] <tiyowan> zortec: Any update on the usb install?
[15:14] <cluster2> sudo isnt working anymore
[15:14] <Severity1> gksudo for gui apps
[15:14] <cluster2> i rebooted my computer and now it won't let me use sudo
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> cluster2 What all did ou do before that last boot
[15:14] <spsneo> my ubuntu is not showing me the wifi connections whereas my vista is showing . any suggestions.?
[15:14] <zortec> tiyowan The usb install didn't work.  It was already set in the bios to boot from the usb and it would not boot.
[15:14] <Vlet> cluster2: what happened before you rebooted?
[15:14] <cluster2> well, its been 6 months, so alot
[15:15] <Severity1> okay spsneo
[15:15] <slobad23> spsneo, what wireless card do you have?
[15:15] <Severity1> spsneo, what wifi device are you using? usb wireless?
[15:15] <cluster2> kind of hard to pinpoint it down to any one thing
[15:15] <Fzang> _dr, with compiz?
[15:15] <zortec> tiyowan: I think I have a usb stick that does not boot, just my luck of course.
[15:15] <tiyowan> zortec: Yikes.
[15:15] <zortec> tiyowan: Sorry, I'm trying to be optimist here.
[15:15] <geirha> cluster2: What message do you get when you run "sudo echo" in a terminal?
[15:16] <paolo> the audio controller is: intel corporation 82801jl ( ich10 family) and worked correctly until yesterday. where I check if that card is the default audio card? howewer is the only audio card on my computer
[15:16] <Vlet> cluster2: well, only you know what you might have done to break it, but you can reboot into single user mode to get a root shell
[15:16] <spsneo> no its dell studio 15 laptop
[15:16] <tiyowan> zortec: Okay. :) So let's try the next option. Have you tried doing an alternate install?
[15:16] <Severity1> try installing linux-backports-module
[15:16] <cluster2> > Sorry, user cluster is not allowed to execute '/bin/echo foo' as root on cluster-laptop.
[15:16] <zortec> tiyowan So now try a minimal install? I think that is all that is left to do.
[15:16] <tkmr> paolo: give me a second. I know where it is in Kubuntu, but not Ubuntu... XD
[15:16] <zortec> tiyowan: Alternate install had a bug where it did not find my cdrom.
[15:16] <geirha> cluster2: Ok, when you run groups, is admin listed?
[15:16] <tiyowan> zortec: Well, standard install's out. USB install's not possible. Alternate install can't find the CD. Hmm.
[15:17] <zortec> tiyowan: I had no drivers for the cdrom so it would loop.
[15:17] <cluster2> no, the groups are root and a couple of custom groups
[15:17] <tkmr> paolo: ok, go to System->Preferences->Sound
[15:17] <paolo> ok! thank you
[15:17] <paolo> ok
[15:17] <tiyowan> zortec: Should try the minimal install now.
[15:18] <tkmr> paolo: everything should be "autodetect" try changing it to your card and testing it.
[15:18] <cluster2> so i can reboot into a root shell and add the admin group should do it?
[15:18] <zortec> tiyowan: Will it detect my wired network?
[15:18] <zortec> tiyowan: I'll want to get back in the IRC room :)
[15:18] <spsneo> Severity1: I am having dell studio 15 laptop
[15:18] <paolo> here there are a lot of devices, but there is an only audio card on my computer! I try to select autodetect, but without results
[15:19] <tiyowan> zortec: I don't think it should be a problem. Anyway, if it doesn't, you could always boot into Windows temporarily.
[15:19] <zortec> tiyowan: I did write down the package irssi
[15:19] <slobad23> spsneo, if you open a terminal and type 'lspci' it should tell you what wireless chipset you have
[15:19] <tkmr> paolo: Try selecting (your card) Digital (ALSA)
[15:20] <spsneo> currently I am accessing net from vista.. as I am not able to connect to wireless from ubuntu
[15:20] <geirha> cluster2: recovery mode -> "adduser yourusername admin", but you are missing some other groups too, like audio (to use audio cards) and plugdev (to have access to pluggable devices) etc...
[15:20] <paolo> tkmr:  ok .... just a moment
[15:20] <spsneo> slobad23: ^^
[15:20] <spsneo> slobad23: Severity1 : its broadcom netlink card
[15:21] <cluster2> where can i get a list of the default groups that ubuntu supports? somehow i guess i nuked my users groups
[15:21] <legend2440> is there a hardware compatibility list for jaunty that will tell me which video cards are compatible? the ubuntu HCL i found looks to be very outdated
[15:21] <zortec> legend2440: I would like that list too.
[15:21] <davidh38> erUSUL: thx for the answer
[15:21] <slobad23> spsneo, http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/netlink.php - they have linux drivers here
[15:21] <davidh38> erUSUL: a bit late but :)
[15:22] <tiyowan> legend2440: Well...9.04's still pretty new so I'd imagine it'd be difficult to gather the data.
[15:22] <paolo> tkmr: the test, after i select digital alsa, answer me with an error: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: aound not open audio device for playback
[15:22] <legend2440> tiyowan: yes thats true
[15:23] <spsneo> slobad23: problem is very peculiar. .. my ubuntu previously used to detect wifi and presently it detects some wifi links which are of no use to me.. but it does not detect just one wifi link which is of use to me. so I guess this is not the problem of wifi driver. any suggestions?
[15:23] <zortec> tiyowan: I'm going to burn the ISO for the minimal install and give it a whirl.
[15:23] <tiyowan> legend2440: But such a list would be indispensable.
[15:23] <p1oooop1> hey all, anyone have quick questions?
[15:24] <tiyowan> zortec: Yes, please do that. If you experience any problems with the minimal install, then I'd suggest to take your box to the local user group. :)
[15:24] <zortec> tiyowan: Or get another graphics card. :)
[15:24] <tkmr> paolo: I didn't even think about this before, lets check and make sure Ubuntu is seeing your card, in terminal run this command: sudo lshw
[15:24] <legend2440> can someone recommend a video card with s-video tv out that they know works with Jaunty? ever since xorg 1.6 my ati radeon 9600 card does not work
[15:25] <tiyowan> zortec: Yes, but remember, do -check- how well the card is supported by linux before buying it.
[15:26] <spsneo> slobad23: problem is very peculiar. .. my ubuntu previously used to detect wifi and presently it detects some wifi links which are of no use to me.. but it does not detect just one wifi link which is of use to me. so I guess this is not the problem of wifi driver. any suggestions?
[15:26] <paolo> tkmr: what i search into the answer?
[15:27] <Jack_Sparrow> spsneo Are you trying to connect to a connection that you control? or someone elses
[15:27] <paolo> tkmr: multimedia
[15:27] <paolo>              description: Audio device
[15:27] <paolo>              product: 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
[15:27] <paolo>              vendor: Intel Corporation
[15:27] <paolo>              physical id: 1b
[15:27] <FloodBot2> paolo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:27] <paolo>              bus info: pci@0000:00:1b.0
[15:27] <spsneo> someone else.. actually its a hostel..
[15:27] <tkmr> paolo: look under "*-multimedia
[15:28] <spsneo> Jack_Sparrow:
[15:28] <piggelito> Hello. could someone help me fix the sound in my headphones? Works well in windows but not ubuntu :S
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> spsneo Perhaps they changed their level of security, either way if you are not connecting to a system that is under your control, I cant help.  take care
[15:29] <bullgard4> No sound, neither in the built-in loudspeakers nor in the headphones. (TeamSpeak2) System > Settings > (Sound Settings) > Devices > (Sound Events) > Sound playback: Autodetect > Test reports: "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audiosample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect stream: invalid argument". How to fix this?
[15:30] <pulse_> hello. I tried to install ubuntu 9 on virtual pc, and after the installation process I get an error when logging in "your home directory does not appear to exist". Did I miss something ?
[15:30] <spsneo> Jack_Sparrow: problem is that I am able to connect from vista.. but ubuntu is not even showing that link
[15:30] <pulse_> should I get ubuntu 8 ?
[15:30] <pulse_> I tried installing it like 5 times
[15:30] <spsneo> Jack_Sparrow: what can be the possible reason... ?
[15:31] <bullgard4> pulse_: There is neither ubuntu 9 nor ubuntu 8.
[15:31] <Jack_Sparrow> spsneo the drivers for your net card may not have the encryption/security features required
[15:31] <Frantic> guys, I have a WPA2 AP with hidden ssid, I'm trying to connect via wpa_supplicant, if I try with wpa_supplicant v 0.5.x, it works, if I try with v0.6.x, it says the APs ssid doesnt match when scanning, any idea why? :-z
[15:31] <pulse_> bullgard4: ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386 ?
[15:32] <Jack_Sparrow> spsneo See the guy above and wpa supplicant
[15:32] <Frantic> also, it might not be wpa_supplicant, in the process of updating I've also always updated from 2.6.28 to 2.6.29, I've repeated the whole cycle twice, without the updates it works, with them it doesn't
[15:33] <pulse_> well, forget it
[15:35] <pl3ktrum> hello, i had a problem with the new ubuntu, i tryed to install it under windows 7, but after the restart theres no bootmanager where i can choose ubuntu.
[15:36] <pl3ktrum> any solutions?
[15:36] <arand> pl3ktrum: hmm, I'm not sure wubi supports win7 yet... so the boot screen just gives you windows as usual?
[15:37] <darthanubis> I don't know why anyone would believe installing ubuntu inside of microsoft's new OS would even work.
[15:37] <Undertaker> hi can anyone help with this ata softresetfailed (device not ready)
[15:37] <darthanubis> !ask | Undertaker
[15:38] <arand> darthanubis: That's not the spirit, play-it and break-it is everyone's roght ;)
[15:38] <geirha> spsneo: Could be related to this: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904#Setting wireless regulatory domain via module option no longer supported
[15:38] <tiyowan> darthanubis < arand
[15:38] <pl3ktrum> windows boot directly, its like i never installed ubuntu, and yeah, i thought its work under windows 7 =(
[15:38] <darthanubis> arand, spirit? Grow up, I was helping him
[15:38] <lfaraone> hey, how can I make it so that no binaries can be marked +x in a directory without putting the directory on a fs marked noexec?
[15:39] <tiyowan> pl3ktrum: I'd suspect incompatibility between Wubi and Windows 7. Considering that Windows 7 isn't all that different from its predecessor, the next logical step would be try to install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7.
[15:39] <fafaz> Hi guys.. I have a problem with firefox and youtube
[15:39] <spsneo> geirha: but the wifi was working on ubuntu 9.04 only some days ago.. it has suddenly stopped showing that link
[15:39] <Crayboff> is there a reason skype only works some of the time? some times it works fine with like 1-2 second lag. sometimes sound just doesn't work at all, other times the mic doesn't work
[15:39] <Crayboff> !skype | crayboff
[15:39] <darthanubis> !flash | fafaz
[15:40] <pl3ktrum> ok, i try this, i hope it will work, thanks for the good service!
[15:40] <geirha> spsneo: Maybe they switched the channel
[15:40] <lfaraone> Crayboff: it could also be that your connection fails.
[15:40] <lfaraone> Crayboff: and that you have a borked sound setup.
[15:41] <froes> hi. i have 9.04 installed on my system, but it wont recognize 4GB. it only shows 3GB. is there a way to make it work ?
[15:41] <arand> pl3ktrum: I don't know what kind of boot manager win7 uses, but presumably wubi has problems with modifying it to make it boot, I know dual-booting with ubuntu on separate partition and grub as the main bootmanager should work though..
[15:41] <spsneo> ohk
[15:41] <Slart> froes: 32bit?
[15:41] <Crayboff> uhh lfaraone you know how to get it fixed?
[15:41] <spsneo> geirha: what is the solution in that case?
[15:41] <Crayboff> i'm on jaunty
[15:42] <geirha> spsneo: No idea I'm afraid, but it mentions using "iw reg". Try reading the man-page of iw. "man iw"
[15:42] <lfaraone> Crayboff: No, other than try another client?
[15:42] <froes> Slart, i think so. i downloaded the i386 iso file
[15:43] <Crayboff> awww i was really hoping for skype
[15:43] <Crayboff> any of you know if ekiga works well in Vista?
[15:43] <Slart> froes: mm.. you need to use 64bit ubuntu to use 4GB of memory.. or use PAE (which the server kernel supports but not the desktop kernel)
[15:43] <Slart> froes: it's a new install?
[15:44] <Weed37> guys how do i get flash working on my utube videos
[15:44] <froes> Slart, not that much anymore. have personalized a lot of things, installed a lot of software already
[15:44] <Crayboff> well if i want to stay with skype, which would be the best thing to download? the Ubuntu 7.04-8.04  or the Debian Etch one? i did the ubuntu one and it only works sometimes
[15:44] <legend2440> does anyone here use s-video tv out with Jaunty? if so can you tell me which video card you are using?
[15:45] <Crayboff> ^ ya i'm using jaunty 9.04
[15:45] <gordonjcp> legend2440: NVidia
[15:45] <FloridaGuy> ? compiling a rss-glx screensaver....whats this mean.....   ( checking for X... no...configure: error: X11 is missing but required.
[15:45] <legend2440> gordonjcp: do you know which model?
[15:45] <fafaz> guys.. I have Adobe Flash player 10 installed and also flashplugin nonfree installed. but can't see videos in youtube!!
[15:46] <froes> Slart, is there a easy way to transform the installation into 64? like install the same apps, keep configurations, etc?
[15:46] <gordonjcp> not offhand, nothing special though
[15:46] <Slart> froes: not really.. you could of course backup your home folder and do a reinstall and then restore that backup.. I think that will work
[15:47] <fafaz> 1488 people and no answer :(
[15:48] <Myrtti> fafaz: and you've restarted firefox?
[15:48] <fafaz> yes
[15:48] <legend2440> gordonjcp: if you are on Jaunty now you can type  lspci in a terminal and it should tell you which nvidia card you are using. that info would be appreciated
[15:48] <gordonjcp> legend2440: I'm not on that machine just now, and it's turned off
[15:48] <froes> Slart, what do you suggest? the 64 or the PAE ? does the 64 works fine? what about software writen for the 32 system ?
[15:48] <legend2440> gordonjcp: oh ok thanks anyway
[15:49] <gordonjcp> legend2440: it's a seriously el-cheapo one, so probably a 7300
[15:49] <Slart> froes: 64bit ubuntu works fine.. I use it myself (with 4GB of memory)
[15:49] <nonono> how can you upgrade 32bit to 64 bit??
[15:49] <Pici> nonono: Reinstall.
[15:49] <gordonjcp> nonono: you can't, really
[15:49] <Slart> froes: there is probably a reason why they don't use PAE on the desktop version of ubuntu but I don't know of it
[15:49] <froes> i actually use it as a development unit. mysql, java, eclipse, jboss
[15:49] <bishop> joining
[15:50] <arand> fafaz: try removing all flash related packages (both free and nonfree [gnash & adobe flash]), and then installing only the package flashplayer-installer
[15:50] <Myrtti> !who | fafaz
[15:51] <Slart> froes: if I were you I would reinstall the 64bit version
[15:51] <Weed37> guys how do i get flash working on my utube videos
[15:52] <fafaz> Myrtti: I'm sorry for pm
[15:52] <Slart> !flash | Weed37
[15:52] <Weed37> thanks Slart
[15:52] <Fzang> is there a way to change the displayed name of an application?
[15:53] <cell> hi
[15:53] <cell> everybody
[15:53] <Jasa> Weed37, get 64 bit flash, it's out there for linux.
[15:53] <arand> Weed37: fafaz: Make sure that a quick search in synaptic only shows up with the package "flashplugin-installer" as installed.
[15:53] <froes> Slart, thanks.
[15:53] <Jasa> In 64bit Ubuntu do not use auto installer.
[15:53] <Weed37> how do i find it jasa
[15:53] <cell> can neone tell me about kubuntu
[15:53] <froes> started with the wrong foot this time
[15:53] <cell> ??
[15:54] <Jasa> Google ... libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
[15:54] <Slart> !kubuntu | cell
[15:54] <arand> Jasa: Weed37: Even though it's a good advice, the normal version should work with at least youtube...
[15:54] <cell> can i install it on gnome
[15:54] <cell> ??
[15:54] <netdata> hi, i installed bacula on ubuntu 9.04 and starting it, it keep failing so i uninstalled it and re installed but it is sill giving the same problems. can anyone help
[15:54] <cell> co i m short of disk space
[15:54] <Jasa> It is a simple .so file so you need to manually install it on either home folder or global one.
[15:55] <netdata> hi, i installed bacula on ubuntu 9.04 and starting it, it keep failing so i uninstalled it and re installed but it is sill giving the same problems. can anyone help
[15:55] <cell> ubottu
[15:56] <J_A_X> hey ppl. I got a new laptop and I was wondering if it's possible to copy all the settings from my old hd to the new install (new install is 64bit, old was 32, so I needed a new install)
[15:56] <netdata> hi cell, i installed bacula on ubuntu 9.04 and starting it, it keep failing so i uninstalled it and re installed but it is sill giving the same problems. can anyone help
[15:56] <J_A_X> is this possible?>
[15:56] <Weed37> jasa do u mind if i pm u
[15:56] <cell> suse or ubuntu ? which one is better
[15:56] <everwicked> hello everyone
[15:56] <cell> hi
[15:56] <cell> ssup?
[15:56] <arand> Weed37: The file is available from here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html and you need to remove all other flash packages and place it in the folder ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[15:57] <everwicked> I just got a dedicated server with Ubuntu installed (8.0.4) and I'm trying to add a users but when I go to the "Users and Groups" admin tool, the "Unlock" button is disabled - what could be wrong?
[15:57] <arand> cell: obviously, everyone here will claim ubuntu to be better ;)
[15:57] <Fzang> how do I simulate a key trigger with a script?
[15:57] <Slart> cell: they are both linux distros.. pretty similar if you look at the big picture.. try out the live cds from both to get a feel for which one you like
[15:57] <Weed37> i am a total noob with linux arand can u help me in pm plz
[15:57] <Slart> Fzang: xmacro might help
[15:57] <Fzang> like, a script that does, when activated, the same as pressing a key on the keyboard
[15:58] <Fzang> Slart, I'll check it out
[15:58] <arand> Weed37: Ok, I'll see what I can do.
[15:59] <Slart> Fzang: it's really more of a "record what you do and play it back" utility.. but it uses plain text files so you can easily create macros of things you want to do
[15:59] <cell> weed
[15:59] <chris_osx> do i actually need kubuntu or can i install kde as well on ubuntu?
[15:59] <shane2peru> if I plug something into my line in, how can I determine that it is being played through?  aplay /dev/? audio dsp?  I'm using alsa, standard setup
[15:59] <Slart> chris_osx: you can install KDE on ubuntu, yes
[15:59] <cell> chris same questiion
[16:00] <chris_osx> Slart: so where is the point in kubuntu? ;-)
[16:00] <Slart> chris_osx: it uses KDE by default.. ubuntu uses gnome by default..
[16:00] <netdata> hi everyone.
[16:00] <Slart> chris_osx: some people like KDE.. some like gnome.. few people actually want both installed
[16:00] <chris_osx> wow a whole distro just for that
[16:01] <SokoL_SD> chris_osx: aptitude install kubuntu-desctop...
[16:01] <Slart> chris_osx: but sure, you could start with a minimal system and add either gnome or kde to that
[16:01] <SokoL_SD> desktop*
[16:01] <Slart> chris_osx: kubuntu/ubuntu/xubunut are very similar.. I wouldn't really call it a whole new distro
[16:01] <chris_osx> SokoL_SD: thx
[16:01] <chris_osx> Slart: thanks for explanation
[16:01] <Pici> !flavors
[16:02] <shane2peru> does anyone know how to determine my sound card /dev/  place?
[16:03] <lucart73> òl
[16:04] <lucart73> hello
[16:04] <Slart> shane2peru: I'm not entirely convinced that your soundcard has to have a dev file... what do you want to do with the dev/blabla name?
[16:04] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[16:04] <roel_> wut?
[16:04] <Slart> shane2peru: if you're using alsa you can run "cat /proc/asound/cards" to get a list of cards
[16:04] <cell> ubottu
[16:05] <shingalated> Is there a way to download an entire repository to a flash drive?
[16:05] <shane2peru> Slart: I want to use it to record the input
[16:05] <The_Jag> @Slart: can ask you about a problem about w5fm asus?
[16:05] <cell> can i install kubuntu in my ubuntu or i need to do a fresh install ??
[16:05] <arand> cell: ubottu is a chatbot
[16:05] <Slart> The_Jag: why not ask the channel.. I don't even know what it is
[16:05] <cell> :O
[16:05] <cell> m noob
[16:05] <cell> hehe
[16:05] <cell> ty
[16:05] <Slart> cell: you can install kde in ubuntu
[16:05] <cell> wats a chta bot
[16:06] <cell> chat bot
[16:06] <shane2peru> Slart: that gives me info, but how do I translate that into /dev/something?  I need to use it with mencoder to record the audio
[16:06] <zortec> Finally got the installer to work.  I'm not sure how to partition though.
[16:06] <olasoft> netdata you can start bacula installation from synaptic
[16:06] <arand> cell: It is possible, but a bit tricky tog get working seamlessly as far as I know
[16:06] <shane2peru> Slart: 0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[16:06] <shane2peru>                       HDA Intel at 0x70200000 irq 22  is the output
[16:07] <zortec> I have a 320GB drive.  #1 primary 104.9GB - #2 primary 31.5GB - pri/log 83.8GB
[16:07] <pc_> I just upgraded to 9.04...I have a dual-screen setup...when I try to start apps on the secondary screen, they always appear on the first screen (they would appear as expected on the 2nd screen with 8.10)
[16:07] <Slart> shane2peru: I don't really know.. /dev/dsp is the oss way of accessing it, I think.. but I don't really know what mencoder can work with
[16:07] <zortec> I created a 30GB partition in Windows which I wanted to use for Ubuntu, but I can't see how to make a / and swap on that partition.
[16:07] <n0gear> which packages do i need to play videos from rebtube? :)
[16:07] <zortec> The partition tool is not that friendly and I know it's dangerous.
[16:08] <The_Jag> Well, does anyone has (had) a ASUS W5Fm Laptop?
[16:08] <Slart> n0gear: adobe flash
[16:08] <Slart> n0gear: flashplugin-nonfree should work.. or that other one.. flashplugin-installer or what it's called
[16:08] <zortec> n0gear: Can anyone help with the partitioning?
[16:08] <dxdemetriou> I am connected with vnc on remote system and the "r" key it stayed pressed. I have this problem on my laptop, and the only way to make the key to release is with lockkkkkkkk screen. on the remote machine I can't do that. how can I initiate the eyboard on remote machine with ssh or something else?
[16:08] <shane2peru> Slart: ok, I have tried that and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, perhaps I should setup oss as my primary sound setup, I have done that in the past, and was pleased.
[16:09] <arand> Slart: flashplugin-nonfree is a transition package, -installer is current
[16:09] <n0gear> Slart: did install that one. youtube plays ok, but redtube not
[16:09] <zortec> n0gear: Try the restricted-extras package.
[16:09] <Slart> n0gear: if youtube plays alright I think flash is working.. I have no idea what redtube uses.. I was assuming it was using the same kind of flash based player
[16:09] <arand> n0gear: redtube... um...
[16:09] <Slart> arand: ah.. thanks
[16:10] <dxdemetriou> or better, how can I use setxkbmap on remote system with Jaunty?
[16:10] <arand> n0gear: If you are on 64bit you could always try the alpha from adobe
[16:11] <zortec> I want to use the 30GB partition I set up in Windows...
[16:11] <arand> n0gear: The file is available from here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html and you need to remove all other flash packages and place it in the folder ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[16:11] <zortec> So I chose "use the largest non-continous space" but I need to break that up into / (root) and swap
[16:11] <radio> i have an mmx pentium 1, what distro i can install?
[16:11] <Slart> radio: hmm.. looked at dsl?
[16:11] <n0gear> arand: thanks dude, will try that
[16:11] <genii> radio: Probably DSL (damn small linux) or PuppyLinux would be best
[16:11] <arand> zortec: The installer will do the break-up automatically.
[16:12] <zer0her0> ok i'm trying to do a scp from a mac, the problem is the drive the files are on have a space it's in names
[16:12] <chris_osx> radio: how much ram do you have?
[16:12] <zortec> arand: The installer I hate to say it kind of has me concerned that I'm going to partition wrong and wipe my data again.
[16:12] <zer0her0> i ussually would use \ to say there's a space there
[16:12] <zer0her0> but it's still complain
[16:12] <zortec> It asks questions like do you want the partition at the beginning or end of the drive.
[16:12] <Loststylus> is there some python channel?
[16:12] <zortec> It doesn't break up that 30GB I created in Windows.
[16:12] <zer0her0> any idea how i would get ubuntu to know the space is there and be ok w/ it
[16:13] <ruadh> Hi. Can anyone tell me how I should go about installing a .bin package?
[16:13] <radio> 32 mb, sim
[16:13] <zortec> ruadh: sudo ./package.bin
[16:13] <arand> zortec: if you want to make sure you know what it does you can always use the advanced option, then you will have to create the and define separate / and swap yourself.
[16:13] <Slart> Loststylus: tried ##python?
[16:14] <frances> does anyone know how to turn off the auto login feature in ubuntu
[16:14] <Slart> frances: system, administration, login window
[16:14] <frances> thx
[16:14] <zortec> arand: I didn't see an advanced option in the minimal install cd.
[16:14] <zortec> arand: There was guided and manual.
[16:15] <arand> zortec: I think manual then.
[16:15] <zortec> arand: Guided set up a 7.5MB swap and 130GB /
[16:15] <lula88>  talk to me
[16:15] <zortec> arand: I know that is not what I want.
[16:15] <Pici> !ot | lula88
[16:15] <zortec> arand: Manual doesn't let me break up the 30GB partition, it only lets you change the filesystem for the whole 30GB... but I need to break that up into / and swap if you follow.
[16:16] <blackmoon> hi, i've got a problem with my sata drive under jaunty amd64, system crash with this error: "ata1: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x1910000 action 0xe frozen"
[16:16] <brandonban6> hi all, anyone get Hamachi successfully running in 9.04?
[16:16] <lula88> blackmoon
[16:16] <netdata> hello everyone,
[16:16] <G_A_C> yes brandonban6
[16:16] <radio> helloo
[16:17] <blackmoon> lula88: yes
[16:17] <netdata> i need some help
[16:17] <zortec> G_A_C: The installer is working on the minimal cd, I just have no idea how to partition.
[16:17] <radio> what distro?
[16:17] <netdata> on bacula backup systems
[16:17] <Slart> !who | radio
[16:17] <zortec> G_A_C: Basically what I want to do is take the 30GB I created in Windows and set up a 1-2GB swap and the rest for /
[16:17] <lula88> whois blackmoon
[16:17] <radio> ok
[16:18] <G_A_C> zortec, I think you're prefixing the wrong name, I haven't been keeping tabs on your partitioning problems
[16:18] <zortec> G_A_C: Sorry, I must have the wrong user
[16:18] <arand> zortec: Hmm, okay I think you'll need to delete the 30GB partition and use the free space there to create two new partitions
[16:19] <everwicked> hm... interesting
[16:19] <lula88> zortec
[16:19] <zortec> arand: I'm a litlte worried about doing that arand because it asks some questions like do you want the partition at the beginning and end
[16:19] <arand> This 30B is more or less blank at the moment right?
[16:19] <jefinc> !hamachi
[16:19] <netdata> i installed bacula on ubuntu 9.04 tried to start it but it keeps failing. i installed and re installed but it is till failling.
[16:19] <everwicked> I changed the permissions of /etc/sudoers to 0644 by mistake and now sudo won't work... how to fix it?
[16:19] <zortec> arand: It also wants to know other information that I don't know anything about... like different boot options, etc
[16:19] <brandonban6> G_A_C, were there any special dependencies you had to install to Hamachi working? I get it installed, but it just hangs up in "retrieving nicks" on both the CLI and the GUI, i've also tried different networks.
[16:19] <netdata> can someon help pls
[16:19] <zortec> arand: It is blank
[16:19] <Slart> everwicked: boot from a live cd.. or use the recovery mode
[16:20] <Slart> netdata: why not give us some details..
[16:20] <zortec> arand: 184GB is free.  The 30GB I created in Windows as a new partition
[16:20] <everwicked> Slart, then I'm fucked, this is a remote server :S
[16:20] <Slart> everwicked: not only that.. you'll be kicked out of here if you keep up that language
[16:20] <G_A_C> brandonban6, no dependencies, no. I just extracted the tarball, did the standard "make install" steps, put my configs into /etc/hamachi/ so it can run without me being logged in, and pulled an initscript from the Ubuntu forums
[16:20] <blackmoon> no one?
[16:20] <everwicked> Slart, woops
[16:20] <netdata> okay
[16:21] <G_A_C> brandonban6, it all seemed to work perfectly first time, and I've just done "hamachi list" and "hamachi get-nicks", everything is working fine
[16:21] <arand> zortec: The beginning-end thin I think is just when you have this unused space, when you are creating the new partition, where in the unused space do you want to create it (beginning/end)
[16:21] <zortec> arand: But what if I put the partition in the wrong spot? I don't want to wipe my data again
[16:22] <brandonban6> Thanks G_A_C, I'll play around some more see if I can get things kicking.
[16:22] <zortec> arand: That was the last experience I had with partitioning...
[16:22] <nano404> Hey, I need a bit of help. I installed Ubuntu 9.04 on a external hard drive. Its not working, but now I can't start the laptop without having the external drive or else I get GRUB loader error #21. And when I get past that screen I get a windows blue screen with a stop error.
[16:22] <chinosuke> How to check, show list and install libary ?
[16:23] <netdata> i used synaptic packages to install bacula on ubuntu 9.04, which auto installed bacula-fd,bacula-dir, bacula-sd, bacula,dir-mysqletc
[16:23] <ruadh> I tried ./package.bin but got an error saying 'command not found'
[16:23] <netdata> but it is failing on startup
[16:24] <chinosuke> how to install package libpcap ?
[16:24] <netdata> all the config files are in /etc
[16:24] <genii> everwicked: It's the chicken-egg problem of no permission to run sudo to change sudoers file permissions back to 440, etc etc. Unfortunately in this case you don't have the option of booting to single user mode to bypass that part.
[16:24] <everwicked> genii, so what do I do?
[16:24] <emad> salam
[16:25] <emad> hello
[16:25] <genii> everwicked: Get ahold of whoever CAN get to the console of the box and have them reboot it to single user, change the file to proper valuses and then reboot to regular
[16:25] <emad> -->
[16:25] <arand> zortec: In the manual partitioner you will only be able to create a new partition in empty space, so if you make sure to delete only the right thing, the partition will only be created in the unused space.
[16:26] <everwicked> hrm, I see... let's see if this rescue netboot thing they got will work
[16:26] <genii> everwicked: There's not really any other way in this case
[16:26] <everwicked> thanks genii
[16:26] <genii> everwicked: You're welcome
[16:26] <mirak> hi
[16:26] <mirak> there is still no way to have itunes on linux
[16:26] <mirak> ?
[16:26] <snakie> Does anyone know a mirror for .ddeb packages for kernel 2.6.28-12-generic?
[16:27] <arand> mirak: and you have fiddled with wine?
[16:27] <mirak> arand: sometime ago
[16:28] <G_A_C> does anyone know of a way using the 9.04 livecd that I can find out what version of a Pentium 4 is installed? x86info isn't available, and I don't have a network connection handy to install it, can it be done other ways?
[16:28] <BiggBoss> a little question: does winscp work for dedicated servers with ubuntu 8.10 x64?
[16:28] <pc> G_A_C: cat /proc/cpuinfo ?
[16:28] <dayo> .
[16:28] <Fzang> what files would the GUI of an app be in the source code?
[16:28] <Vlet> G_A_C: or check out dmesg perhaps
[16:29] <johnykg> yo
[16:29] <G_A_C> pc, /proc/cpuinfo just tells me speed, amount of cache, etc
[16:29] <G_A_C> so no use :(
[16:29] <G_A_C> Vlet, I'll check dmesg, good idea, thanks
[16:29] <arand> mirak: Um, yea looking att the wine appdb it seems like itunes might be hard luck... There is always virtual machines though...
[16:29] <Vlet> Fzang: That's kind of a can of worms and offtopic question :-/
[16:29] <johnykg> ok im out cya
[16:29] <Fzang> Vlet, I see :O
[16:29] <nano404> Any ideas?
[16:29] <jarma> hello ;>
[16:30] <nano404> Hey
[16:30] <Vlet> !patience | nano404
[16:30] <chinosuke> how to install libpcap in ubuntu
[16:30] <jarma> ktos jest z polski??:D
[16:30] <Vlet> nano404: "any ideas?" isn't a good question... perhaps repeating the question would be better :)
[16:31] <nano404> Vlet: Ahh, yeah. Silly me.
[16:31] <nano404> Hey, I need a bit of help. I installed Ubuntu 9.04 on a external hard drive. Its not working, but now I can't start the laptop without having the external drive or else I get GRUB loader error #21. And when I get past that screen I get a windows blue screen with a stop error.
[16:31] <G_A_C> Vlet, it's a P4 3.4 stepping 09, that could give me a clue, thanks for the tip :)
[16:31] <erUSUL> BiggBoss: scp is a standar any client should be able to talk to any server
[16:31] <dayo> hi
[16:32] <arand> mirak: There's always options to itunes though, even for the store, apparently: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/iTunesMusicStore
[16:32] <BiggBoss> thx, and putty¿
[16:32] <hajar> hi .. small question .. how can I repartition the harddisk .. I want to setup xp but mycomputer have one partition for ubuntu
[16:32] <snakie> Does anyone know a mirror for .ddeb packages for kernel 2.6.28-12-generic?
[16:33] <pc> hajar: System -> Administration -> Partition Editor
[16:33] <Vlet> nano404: it sounds like the MBR on the internal drive is pointing to a grub install on the external drive... I'm not much of an expert on such things, so I may have it wrong
[16:33] <sidh> does someone know how to retrieve the "speaker icon" in gnome menu bar
[16:34] <Vlet> nano404: here's someone with your exact same problem. Perhaps the solutions provided may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-342033.html
[16:34] <arand> hajar: http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm
[16:34] <flintwingel> nano404: its sounds like you have put grub on your laptop boot sector when you really wanted it on the usb drive... is the laptop Windows XP? DO you have an XP install disk?
[16:34] <diffred>  I need to have compiz running in order to get the terminal wallpaper running? http://maketecheasier.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/terminal-desktop.jpg
[16:34] <nano404> Vlet: yeah, I did google it and it looks like part of the problem but not exactly sure how to fix it and why I'm getting the stop error, which only happened today
[16:34] <Jasa> sidh: Mail order one from me, i'll send you a screenie with that icon you missing. =)
[16:34] <Vlet> sidh: right click the panel and click add to panel
[16:35] <hajar> thanx arand
[16:35] <Vlet> sidh: oh, and select volume control
[16:35] <zortec> arand: So can I not use the 30GB  partition I created in Windows?
[16:35] <nano404> flintwingel: XP, no disc :(
[16:35] <bigmb> Question. How can I change the password for mysql? "mysql -u root -p" prompts for a password I was never asked to define
[16:35] <Slart> bigmb: isn't the default password available from some install log?
[16:36] <Vlet> nano404: but doesn't the first response in that thread I linked explain how to fix it?
[16:36] <Flynsarmy> When i try to set compiz shortcut to <Alt><Super>Button2 it says invalid shortcut. why's that?
[16:36] <nano404> Vlet: Sorry, didn't check the link when I posted my comment. Thanks.
[16:36] <bigmb> slart: I installed it using synaptics and I never saw anything concerning it.
[16:37] <zortec> I'm really worried about losing my data going through the partition tool.
[16:37] <arand> zortec: You should be able to, although you would have to shrink it to make room for swap, and reformat it, since windows probably created it as "ntfs" and ubuntu don't like that filesystem (ext3 is what is normally used)
[16:37] <zortec> It happened before, so I want to take caution.
[16:37] <Slart> bigmb: but I'm pretty sure it's mentioned in the mysql documentation.. why not have a look at their site.. it's bound to be a frequently asked question
[16:37] <Jasa> bigmb: When i tried mythtv and it installed mysql it asked to define the password like 3 times during package installs.
[16:37] <sidh> thanks Vlet
[16:37] <Jasa> bigmb: It could be stored at /etc/mysql/my.conf
[16:37] <arand> zortec: THe best caution is to have backups of all your important data.
[16:37] <porter1> What is the best way to test LDAP connections in ubuntu?
[16:38] <Vlet> bigmb: try no password. If that fails, then perhaps: mysqladmin -u root password NEWPASSWORD
[16:38] <Slart> bigmb: have you tried just doing "mysql -u root" ?
[16:38] <zortec> arand: If I create two partitions out of the empty space, how do I answer that question where to put the partition or what boot options to use?
[16:38] <zortec> arand: You have a lot of choices which can be a bit confusing.
[16:38] <bigmb> Vlet: says connect to server at localhost failed then it says access denied...
[16:38] <bigmb> Slart: yeah, to no avail
[16:39] <flintwingel> porter1: have a look at luma
[16:39] <bullgard4> No sound, neither in the built-in loudspeakers nor in the headphones. (TeamSpeak2) System > Settings > (Sound Settings) > Devices > (Sound Events) > Sound playback: Autodetect > Test reports: "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audiosample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect stream: invalid argument". How to fix this?
[16:39] <Vlet> bigmb: did you try the mysqladmin method?
[16:39] <Slart> !info mysql
[16:39] <Slart> bah
[16:40] <porter1> flintwingel, thanks, I'll try it out
[16:40] <Slart> bigmb: look at this http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/default-privileges.html
[16:40] <bigmb> Vlet: yes, didn't work
[16:40] <arand> Where you put the in the empty space does not matter really, the important thing is that you have a swap and a "root" /
[16:40] <SPF> what is a good program to measure the temperature of your CPU?
[16:40] <zortec> arand: I recall that I read somewhere it does matter if it's at the beginning or end
[16:40] <zortec> that is why I was trying to get a definite answer on that
[16:41] <diffred>  I need to have compiz running in order to get the terminal wallpaper running? http://maketecheasier.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/terminal-desktop.jpg
[16:41] <Xcell> SPF-  lmsensors
[16:41] <steven> hi all
[16:41] <Vlet> bigmb: perhaps try using that command with sudo? if that fails, then maybe: http://www.howtoforge.com/reset-forgotten-mysql-root-password
[16:41] <steven> :)
[16:41] <zortec> arand: You can wipe out the windows partition.
[16:41] <SPF> Xcell: thx, I'll try that
[16:41] <Xcell> ok
[16:41] <Vlet> hello steven :)
[16:41] <darkham> how can i uninstall and reinstall synaptic completely?
[16:42] <shomon> hi, ever since I upgraded to the newest ubuntu version, pidgin gives these enormous announcements each time a contact comes online or off. How do I remove that?
[16:42] <Xcell> darkham-  why would u want that?
[16:42] <Vlet> darkham: you want to uninstall the package manager?
[16:42] <arand> zortec: As far as I know, it would make little or no difference in your case, (presuming now that you are using the manual partitioning tool and creating a new partition in empty space). If anyone in the channel objects: SHOUT.
[16:42] <Slart> darkham: sudo apt-get install --reinstall synaptic ought to do it
[16:42] <zortec> darkham: You could just install another package manager.
[16:43] <mdm> bigmb if your are familiar with run control stop the mysql server then start it back up with --skip-grant-tables.  Then connect my the mysql client and change the password
[16:43] <zortec> Anyone know if it makes any difference if the partition is at the beginning or end of your HD?
[16:43] <darkham> Vlet: i've a problem with synaptic, when i try to load the window with the third part reositories, i've the window "repositories changed", and i can't do anything
[16:44] <darkham> zortec: like what?
[16:44] <mdm> zortec: yes but I doubt seriously you can see the differnce, its barely measurable on modern drives
[16:44] <Xcell> darkham-  make sure the (cd) is unchecked
[16:45] <franczen> darkham:  sudo apt-get remove --purge synaptic?
[16:45] <darkham> Xcell: mmm, i haven't look at this.....
[16:45] <darkham> franczen: i try
[16:45] <bigmb> slart: not working
[16:45] <zortec> darkham, mdm: Why does the installer ask that question then?
[16:45] <kholerabbi> Window Manager is ignoring ignoring Always on Visible Workspace / Only on This Workspace option... :/ any suggestions? I have Desktop Effects enabled.
[16:45] <bigmb> vlet: first command gave me all kinds of errors
[16:45] <bigmb> mdm: think that's what vlet's website was trying to have me do
[16:45] <Xcell> I wish amarok would stop dominating my sound exchange
[16:46] <kjkjl> how to get opengl on ubuntu
[16:46] <mdm> zortec its from older drives, technically, you should put swap first then the rest (e.g. /dev/sda1 is swap).  But like I said it would be difficult to show the performance increase.
[16:46] <Vlet> bigmb: just curious, how did you go about installing the mysql server anyway?
[16:46] <darkham> what's synaptic's dependencies?
[16:46] <Slart> bigmb: what didn't work?
[16:47] <r000> can not in stal google earth
[16:47] <Jack_Sparrow> darkham after you change repos, which I advise against.. sudo apt-get update is required
[16:47] <Vlet> darkham: uninstalling and reinstalling it won't fix any of that. Try executing "sudo apt-get update" in a terminal
[16:47] <bigmb> vlet: synaptic package manager. I'm going to uninstall and reinstall. If I still can't get it working I'll pop back on here
[16:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !googleearth > r000
[16:47] <bigmb> slart: Imma uninstall it and reinstall it. If I still can't get it to work, Imma pop back on here. Thanks
[16:48] <zortec> mdm: Thanks, so I have 183GB free space to create new partitions with.  So 1 or 2GB swap and 28GB root.  Is that good?
[16:48] <Xcell> Jack_Sparrow-  I take it amarok no longer uses alsa.
[16:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Xcell No idea.
[16:48] <sidh> after installing ubuntu 9.04 amd64 , some things are stranges:
[16:48] <mdm> zortec: how much phsical memory do you have? put in 2x physical, spread it across disks if you can
[16:48] <darkham> Jack_Sparrow  Vlet: yes, i've updated many many times, but nothing, i can't look novermore the window with third part repos...
[16:48] <zortec> I still don't know if I should do 1 or 2GB swap or use it at all.
[16:49] <sidh> 1/at reboot , volume is always on mute
[16:49] <zortec> mdm: 3GB
[16:49] <Slart> !enter | sidh
[16:49] <sidh> i always have to unmute it
[16:49] <Xcell> ive converted from pulse but amarok wont do it..
[16:49] <Jack_Sparrow> darkham system...admin...software sources..
[16:49] <zortec> mdm: On the forums, it was suggested not to go 4GB swap
[16:49] <poboy975> hello, I am having a ndiswrapper issue, is any available to help?
[16:49] <ssn> hi guys
[16:49] <darkham> Jack_Sparrow: it doesn't load anything...
[16:49] <Jack_Sparrow> zortec swap is seldom used anyhow
[16:50] <darkham> Jack_Sparrow: nothing appens more
[16:50] <ska> HOw do I tell what wireless protocols my system supports?
[16:50] <zortec> Jack_Sparrow So 1GB is plenty then?
[16:50] <Jack_Sparrow> darkham system...admin...software sources.. those are menus at the top of the page,  what version or flavor of ubuntu are you running
[16:50] <mdm> zortec the memmory manger chops those 3 g into pages, then mirrors those pages into swap space.  So the barest minimum you need as much as you have physical space
[16:50] <ssn> i have a Radeon Mobility 7500 in my Thinkpad T41p. Ever since I followed this guide, the card got really really slow: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2009/05/howto-enable-ati-unsupported-cards-in.html
[16:50] <franczen> poboy975: what's the device? Atheros?
[16:50] <Jack_Sparrow> zortec make it equal to your ram just to be safe
[16:50] <kjkjl> how opengl to install on ubuntu. it says error when compiling file says undefined reference to gluInit
[16:50] <Vlet> darkham: ahh, in your software sources control panel, try changing your mirror to something else
[16:50] <ssn> how do i remove the new drivers again
[16:50] <sidh> after installing ubuntu 9.04 amd64 , some things are stranges: 1/sound is always on mute at boot time. 2/often when i reboot the reboot process stops, and i have to finish it with crtl + alt + supp (the  it stops some md device )
[16:51] <flintwingel> zortec: it will depend on what you want to run... you generally don't want swap to be used at all becuase it slows the system down
[16:51] <arand> zortec: Swap is used when physicalmemory runs low, or when you hibernate the computer, if you do want hibernation, you'd need more than 3GB (since all memory has to be saved "frozen" on disk).
[16:51] <darkham> Vlet: i cant load the software sources window......is that my problem..
[16:51] <zortec> I could run without a swap technically... and have a fast system.
[16:51] <Jack_Sparrow> darkham   what version or flavor of ubuntu are you running
[16:51] <darkham> Jack_Sparrow: jaunty
[16:52] <ssn> i have a Radeon Mobility 7500 in my Thinkpad T41p. Ever since I followed this guide, the card got really really slow: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2009/05/howto-enable-ati-unsupported-cards-in.html  How do I revert the changes to my system?
[16:52] <flintwingel> zortec: it won't be faster with or without swap if its not use
[16:52] <Jack_Sparrow> darkham gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list             from a terminal
[16:52] <poboy975> its a Broadcom Corporation BCM4309 802.11a/b/g (rev 02) I can get it working if i type sudo modprobe -r b43 b44 b43legacy ssb ndiswrapper wl bcm43xx, then typoe sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, then it works, but I have to do this every time I reboot
[16:52] <mdm> flintwingel: swap is not use just for out of memory, it also swaps out claimed but unused memory (as in startup memory).  You would be suppised how much memory is claimed but then never released
[16:52] <r000> can google earth instal
[16:52] <franczen> I did a clean install of Jaunty. Since then, my laptop's wifi (Atheros AR2413) doesn't work. It sees all the available networks, it just simply does not connect. First thing I tried is to test my router. But with other boxes it worked as it should. Then I tried to disable the encryption, but still the same. Jaunty comes with ath5k driver by default. This apparently didn't work for me, so I enabled madwifi, which worked since Fiest
[16:52] <franczen> y. The same issue. As third option I tried ndiswrapper (this also worked in all previous versions). The same simptome. After Googling around, I found that for some people it was a solution to completely remove network-manager, and install wicd instead. No success. Any ideas?
[16:52] <billybigrigger> how would go about reinstalling grub? every time i reboot i get a grub error 11 unrecognized disk or something and i have to bypass with super grub disk, i think this all happened when i tried to install grub 2, how do i get a default grub configuration?
[16:52] <Vlet> darkham: paste the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and link it here
[16:52] <mdm> swapping, in an of itself is not necessarily bad
[16:53] <Jack_Sparrow> r000 See the link I sent to you
[16:53] <zortec> mdm, flintwingel: I don't plan to use hibernate so I think 1GB.
[16:53] <daniella_> hi people, yesterday i changed my laptop from windows to ubuntu
[16:53] <Russian> Good moning. :)
[16:53] <poboy975> I have blacklisted the b43 b44 ssb bcm43xx and b43legacy in /etc/,odprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[16:53] <Slart> !nl | r000
[16:53] <ssn> i have a Radeon Mobility 7500 in my Thinkpad T41p. Ever since I followed this guide, the card got really really slow: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2009/05/howto-enable-ati-unsupported-cards-in.html  How do I revert the changes to my system?
[16:53] <mdm> zortec make it 3G, if you have 3G of real memory make swap the same size
[16:53] <daniella_> the problem i am having is with my wifi, i struggled alot and finally made it work with wicd
[16:53] <r000> #ubuntu-nl
[16:53] <bastidrazor> !grub > billybigrigger
[16:54] <billybigrigger> bastid_raZor::: thanks
[16:54] <franczen> poboy975 check update-initramfs for this issue
[16:54] <poboy975> google that?
[16:54] <r000> help my instal google earth
[16:54] <darkham> Jack_Sparrow Vlet : http://paste.ubuntu.com/185767/
[16:54] <Paddy_EIRE> ssn: just for your information there is no magic revert button
[16:54] <daniella_> but.... and it's a big but, if i am disconnecting from an on going connection, for no reason of for moving to another network, i can reconnect to my network' it is stuck on requiring for ip
[16:54] <Slart> r000: type  /join #ubuntu-nl
[16:54] <daniella_> only a restart helps me.
[16:54] <daniella_> even networking restart didn't help
[16:55] <zortec> mdm: Isn't swap 1.5x the amount of physical RAM you have?
[16:55] <Paddy_EIRE> ssn: although typically you would work backwards from that guide to undo the changes you have made
[16:55] <Paddy_EIRE> ssn: that is also not an officially supported method
[16:55] <zortec> mdm: I know that is the rules for Windows.
[16:55] <daniella_> trued ifdown ifup on my wireless card but god a message that the card is not configured
[16:55] <ssn> i get that
[16:55] <daniella_> what might that be?
[16:55] <Russian> Êòî-íèáóäü çíàåò ðóññêèé? I'm not speak English. :(
[16:56] <Slart> zortec: there are no good rules for this.. at least 1xRAM if you're going to use hibernation.. the rest depends on what you do with the computer
[16:56] <ssn> Paddy_EIRE: if i knew which paket to reinstall to overwrite the changes
[16:56] <mdm> zortec: swap is used to map physical memory.   you need as much as you have physical for the swapper to run efficiently.
[16:56] <diffred>  I need to have compiz running in order to get the terminal wallpaper running? http://maketecheasier.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/terminal-desktop.jpg
[16:56] <poboy975> franczen: so I run sudo update-initramfs -u?
[16:56] <zortec> Slart: I want to do some gaming on the computer
[16:56] <flintwingel> zortec: the "rule" always used to be swap=2xRAM, these days its less important - if you want hibernation you need enough space to store the memory dump so swap>RAM
[16:56] <Paddy_EIRE> ssn: as I said there is no magic button or package to revert the changes you made
[16:56] <zortec> Slart: Based on what everyone says, I think 1-2GB is adequate.
[16:56] <Myrtti> !ru | Russian
[16:56] <chazco> Hi.. are there any distributions compatible with Ubuntu 7.10 that are still supported?
[16:56] <daniella_> can anyone help me please?
[16:57] <Paddy_EIRE> ssn: my guess is you where previously using the "ati" open driver
[16:57] <Vlet> !ask | daniella_
[16:57] <ssn> Paddy_EIRE: thats my guess to
[16:57] <ssn> but just a guess
[16:57] <Slart> zortec: sounds good.. I used 3GB when I ran some large matlab simulations.. other times I've had swap disabled entirely
[16:57] <Jack_Sparrow> darkham gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list      and put ## at the front of all lines from 53 down and try to update again.  I would NOT have used the linuxMint Repo as you have done
[16:57] <Paddy_EIRE> let me have a look ssn
[16:57] <Myrtti> daniella_: did you try to restart wicd?
[16:57] <daniella_> Vlet, already asked the question, no need to look for a reson to use bots
[16:57] <franczen> poboy975: yes, try that, and reboot
[16:57] <ssn> Paddy_EIRE: how :D
[16:57] <poboy975> ok will do, brb thanks
[16:57] <zortec> Slart: Is there any downside to having swap disabled or not creating a swap file?
[16:57] <Paddy_EIRE> ssn: just a moment I am having a read at that guide
[16:58] <Jack_Sparrow> daniella_ We dont need a reason, please dont post HelpMe etc
[16:58] <daniella_> Myrtti, yes, didn't work neither is that a solution :)
[16:58] <daniella_> can't do that every time
[16:58] <Slart> zortec: if you have enough memory.. not that I know of
[16:58] <white_> anyone know about gtk-gnutella?
[16:58] <Vlet> daniella_: well, when I look over at my irc terminal and within that screenview see a person having only said, "can anyone help me" I assume they haven't asked a question
[16:58] <zortec> mdm: What happens if you don't create a swap and you run out?
[16:58] <daniella_> Jack Sparrow, it's not a help me it was a long informative message should read it before complaining
[16:58] <Slart> white_: is that your real question?
[16:58] <Russian> Âñåì ïîêà. :) Good-bye. :)
[16:59] <chazco> Are there any repositories still providing updates for Ubuntu 7.10?
[16:59] <mdm> zortec swap is not bad, it is not something you need to avoid.  In fact it is a necessary part of an efficient running box.  You WANT swap, you WANT to have enough memory to swap out everything.  This is why people tell you to put in as much as you have physical.
[16:59] <Jack_Sparrow> daniella_ please drop the thread. thanks
[16:59] <daniella_> Vlet, please give people some more credit then that, check up stairs  :)
[16:59] <Paddy_EIRE> ssn: could you try and follow this guide and let me know how you get on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[16:59] <Slart> mdm: why would you want swap if you have enough memory?
[16:59] <white_> slart yes
[16:59] <diffred>  I need to have compiz running in order to get the terminal wallpaper running? http://maketecheasier.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/terminal-desktop.jpg
[16:59] <daniella_> Myrtti, any other idea?
[16:59] <zortec> mdm: And swap is only used if you run out right?
[16:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !attitude > daniella_
[16:59] <Slart> white_: ok, then the answer is yes.. several people know about gtk-gnutella
[16:59] <zortec> mdm: Otherwise, swap file is just dormant.
[17:00] <white_> Slart: im having trouble updating to 0.96.6
[17:00] <mdm> zortec if you run out of memory, the box will not run more programs, things will start crashing and you will get some seriously screwed up programs.
[17:00] <chazco> Are there any repositories still providing updates for Ubuntu 7.10?
[17:00] <Jack_Sparrow> chazco no
[17:00] <poboy975> franczen: ok that worked. thanks. I didnt see anything about running that in the howto's I found
[17:00] <chazco> Jack_Sparrow - Ah bad news... thanks :(
[17:00] <Paddy_EIRE> !eol | chazco
[17:00] <Slart> white_: oh no.. no follow up questions.. you just wanted to know if someone knew about gtk-gnutella
[17:00] <Jack_Sparrow> chazco you will need to see old-repos.
[17:00] <flintwingel> zortec: you can never be quite sure how much memory may be needed unless to know what apps you want to run and hwo much data they will have
[17:00] <mdm> and zortec no swap is used as the system starts, in fact its very first use is by the kernel before any program are ever run
[17:00] <darkham> Jack_Sparrow: nothing appens....
[17:00] <Slart> white_: see what I meant by the "real question" now?
[17:01] <daniella_> ubottu, why do you speak for him, i know peole here are volunteers yet i asked very polite with a lot of information and expected a nice attitude back, it should go both ways
[17:01] <geirha> chazco: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[17:01] <Jack_Sparrow> darkham then something has gone wrong with all of the changes and odd repos.  you can try !aptfix
[17:01] <daniella_> when i will have enough knowledge and sit here and help others, i would do it with grace
[17:01] <chazco> Jack_Sparrow - Was looking to see if it still gets security updates... was considering downgrading to it (last version that worked well for me)
[17:01] <zortec> mdm, flintwingel: So on the safe side, create a swap for as much physical RAM you have.
[17:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptfix
[17:01] <flintwingel> zortec: yes
[17:01] <Vlet> daniella_: sorry :) ... but it's tough when a single question is spread out over time like that... anyway, I've little experience with wifi.. sorry :-/
[17:01] <chazco> geirha - Used loads of versions but 7.10 is the last one that worked well for me
[17:01] <Jasa> mdm: Well it doesn't require swap to boot linux or use, i have made couple installs without any swap partitions or files ... worked same way as normally.
[17:02] <Jack_Sparrow> daniella_ MAy I have a word please
[17:02] <daniella_> Vlet, thank you very much for being such a gentleman. appreciate it
[17:02] <ssn> Paddy_EIRE: any solution?
[17:02] <daniella_> Jack_Sparrow, of course dear
[17:02] <darkham> Jack_Sparrow: ok. How can i change the server of upgrades? i've server.unina.net, or something like
[17:02] <Paddy_EIRE> ssn: I sent you a link
[17:02] <Paddy_EIRE> ssn: could you try and follow this guide and let me know how you get on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[17:02] <mdm> zortec think of it this way, a program starts and asked for 1G of memory.  It starts up and runs, but it now only needs 100M of memory.  The swapper sees this and swaps out the unused memory segments freeing up physical memory for other uses.  This is quite typical of program behavior and it is wanted behavior
[17:02] <geirha> chazco: What problems are you having with 8.04 then?
[17:02] <Paddy_EIRE> ssn: that should fix your problem
[17:03] <erUSUL> daniella_: ifup and ifdown only work with interfaces de defined /etc/network/interfaces afaik. not for ones managed by NetworkManager. Could be wrong though
[17:03] <mdm> and yes Jasa you do not NEED swap, you WANT swap
[17:03] <ssn> Paddy_EIRE: thx
[17:03] <Paddy_EIRE> ssn: no problem
[17:03] <darkham> !atpfix
[17:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !coc > daniella_
[17:03] <Paddy_EIRE> As I said ssn if you run into any trouble let me know :)
[17:03] <zortec> mdm: Nice example, I understand a little better now.
[17:03] <daniella_> erUSUL, ok, good to know, but any idea about my problem?
[17:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptfix
[17:04] <chazco> geriha - One laptop cant use apt since 7.10 (bug survives clean reinstalls and happens on wired and wifi networks), other systems have wifi and stability issues, broken tcp_window_scaling (can be fixed though but causes other issues), 9.04 broken dvd support (bug reports filed) etc :)
[17:04] <daniella_> Jack_Sparrow, OK got that. any idea though on my problem?
[17:04] <Naire> hi
[17:04] <hatter243> daniella_, would you mind repeating your problem? I've only just come back from idle and I can't seem to find your question
[17:04] <Jack_Sparrow> daniella_ Nope
[17:05] <erUSUL> daniella_: no sorry not much experience with wicd
[17:05] <daniella_> Jack_Sparrow, thanks any way
[17:05] <TJ`> anyone good with pptpd server?
[17:05] <daniella_> hatter243, i will sure, thanks for helping
[17:05] <daniella_> i moved to ubuntu from windows last night
[17:05] <daniella_> the only problem i suffered by now are related to wifi
[17:06] <daniella_> after many struggling i succeeded to make it work with wicd
[17:06] <franczen> daniella_: what chipset? Atheros?
[17:06] <sectech> What's the off topic channel for Ubuntu?
[17:06] <hatter243> !ot | sectech
[17:06] <billybigrigger> has anyone here every had problems with a raid array not mounting on boot?
[17:06] <daniella_> hatter243, the only problem is that if my connetion disconnects
[17:06] <mmm4m5m> hi, anyone with ubuntu hardy + nvidia 9600 or using nvidia driver from nvidia web site? Sometimes after reboot, X fail to start. I need help to be sure that I am do it right. There are two things in ubuntu pages: "disable conflicting software" and "load driver on boot"
[17:07] <daniella_> it can't reconnect stuck on retrieving ip
[17:07] <billybigrigger> md0 doesn't mount at boot, nor can fdisk see it, but the 2 disks are shown in fdisk...
[17:07] <Paddy_EIRE> Hey could anyone tell me if this section is still applicable to Jaunty https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver#Tweaking%20The%20Driver
[17:07] <daniella_> only a restart help. what i did so far is:
[17:07] <TJ`> billy join #ubuntu-server
[17:07] <daniella_> networking restart
[17:07] <Eruaran> !offtopic sectech
[17:07] <darkham> Jack_Sparrow: How can i change the server of upgrades from terminal?
[17:07] <daniella_> ifdown and ifup (just now have learned are not related to my issude)
[17:07] <Paddy_EIRE> !enter | daniella_
[17:08] <geirha> chazco: apt not working after a fresh install? haven't heard of that before. What are the symptoms?
[17:08] <Eruaran> !offtopic
[17:08] <daniella_> Paddy_EIRE, sure thing thanks.. though it would be flodding if i didn't use it
[17:08] <darkham> how can i chenge the upgrade server from terminal?
[17:08] <Paddy_EIRE> daniella_: not if its one question
[17:08] <darkham> how can i change the upgrade server from terminal?
[17:09] <daniella_> hatter243, got that?
[17:09] <Slart> !repeat | darkham
[17:09] <genii> darkham: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list       and edit the servers list there
[17:09] <chazco> geirha - Packages corrupt themselves, dpkg gives "pipe" errors, dependency issues (that dont actually exist), apt-get updates dont always work and so on - its just on that one machine - identical config on other machines works fine. Its weird. The main issues I have though at present are with wifi and window scaling on other computers...
[17:10] <TJ`> any idea why pptpd disconnects when i try to request a web page on the same server? (apache + pptpd are on the same box)
[17:10] <pragad7> trying to isntall opengl error returned is "couldnt find package mesa"
[17:10] <Slart> !info opengl
[17:10] <Slart> pragad7: what are you installing?
[17:10] <hatter243> daniella_, alright, the next time it happens try this: Right click on the network-manager applet -> *Uncheck* Enable Wireless -> Wait a few seconds -> Right click network-manager applet -> *recheck* enable wireless.
[17:10] <pragad7> slart opengl
[17:10] <darkham> genii :i can't edit the servers...
[17:11] <chazco> daniella_ - Are you trying to join an enterprise WPA network with an intel wifi card by any chance?
[17:11] <genii> darkham: Why not?
[17:11] <geirha> chazco: Unfortunately (or should I say fortunately?) I haven't had any problems with wifi myself, it's just worked out of the box.
[17:11] <zhanghe> How can i turn on 3D
[17:11] <pragad7> slart opengl
[17:11] <franczen> I did a clean install of Jaunty. Since then, my laptop's wifi (Atheros AR2413) doesn't work. It sees all the available networks, it just simply does not connect. First thing I tried is to test my router. But with other boxes it worked as it should. Then I tried to disable the encryption, but still the same. Jaunty comes with ath5k driver by default. This apparently didn't work for me, so I enabled madwifi, which worked since Fiest
[17:11] <chazco> geirha - Yep, it used to in 7.10, since then issues have turned up
[17:11] <darkham> genii: i only look the repos
[17:11] <franczen> y. The same issue. As third option I tried ndiswrapper (this also worked in all previous versions). The same simptome. After Googling around, I found that for some people it was a solution to completely remove network-manager, and install wicd instead. No success. Any ideas?
[17:11] <pragad7> slart
[17:11] <daniella_> Chazco, i am using an intel wifi card but no wpa, only my wep network
[17:11] <Slart> pragad7: yes?
[17:12] <jophish> hmm, Microsoft's Bing comes up with about 200 thousand results for ubuntu, but google gets nearly 90 million
[17:12] <genii> darkham: When you do an upgrade, the repository servers are where it upgrades from. What exactly are you trying to accomplish ?
[17:12] <daniella_> hatter243, i am using wicd not network-manager
[17:12] <darkham> genii: i would change the server, i've not the main, and i can't open the software resources window
[17:12] <pragad7> opengl
[17:12] <chazco> daniella_ - Hmm, probably not related then but there is a known bug with WPA which causes similar issues
[17:12] <pragad7> i am trying to ghet opengl working
[17:12] <daniella_> chazco, and how do i over come it?
[17:12] <daniella_> is there a solution to that?
[17:13] <chazco> daniella_ - If it is the same bug then the solution is to use wicd, which semi-fixes it, but not perfectly... seems you've already done that though... sorry i cant be more help
[17:13] <bastidrazor> franczen, http://madberry.org/2008/11/how-to-get-atheros-ar242x-to-work-on-810-intrepid-ibex/   although it says for 8.10 i have used this guide for 9.04
[17:13] <jophish> pragad7, what's wrong?
[17:13] <daniella_> chazco, thanks for you help
[17:13] <daniella_> for trying
[17:13] <Slart> pragad7: are you trying to install opengl drivers, opengl applications, opengl libraries, opengl headers.. how are you trying to install them?
[17:13] <chazco> daniella_ - No problem, hope you get it fixed :)
[17:13] <sidh> i found the origin of my reboot process problem, so is there a way to tell ubuntu to execute a command before rebooting ?
[17:14] <Slart> pragad7: don't make me interrogate you for information
[17:14] <pragad7> libraries
[17:14] <daniella_> chazco, me too :)
[17:14] <jophish> please try to be more specific
[17:14] <jophish> a driver problem?
[17:14] <pragad7> i am trying to learn opengl
[17:14] <jophish> oh
[17:14] <jophish> how about heading over to ##opengl
[17:15] <jophish> I found glfw really useful
[17:15] <Slart> pragad7: I'm sorry... I'll just stop here.. ask the channel again
[17:15] <pragad7> ok
[17:15] <cellofellow> In gconf syste/storage/default/vfat, I removed the umask and set the dmask to 077 and the fmask to 177. This works fine for the directories on my USB drive (they come out as 700 permissions) but the files are 400 for some reason. I don't get it, 177 should equal 600.
[17:15] <chaos2fu> hello everybody, is thera anyone who knows how to use VPN with PPTP in ubuntu?
[17:16] <Myrtti> darkham: your system seems to be badly broken, have you any idea what you've done to it
[17:16] <Myrtti> chaos2fu: install network-manager-pptp
[17:16] <Vlet> daniella_: to be honest, in my limited experience with linux wifi, I also had to restart frequently to get things chugging.
[17:16] <chaos2fu> myrtti yeah i have done that, do i have to reboot?
[17:17] <cellofellow> nvm, I figured it out. I was constantly looking at a file that happens to be set read-only by mattrib for comparison. Silly me.
[17:17] <Myrtti> chaos2fu: the option for vpn-pptp doesn't show in your nm-applet?
[17:17] <Gourlis> Hello, I have 2GB of RAM. How much my swap partition must be? Logical ofcourse.
[17:17] <mdm> chaos2fu: yes I do it on my laptop, look at http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/
[17:17] <chaos2fu> myrtti yes it does...but it says that the conneciton failed?
[17:18] <Slart> Gourlis: will you be using hibernation?
[17:18] <ouahabix> I think you should have the double of it so it would be 4GB
[17:18] <chris_osx> Gourlis: in most cases your swap should be 1/2 * RAM
[17:18] <cellofellow> Gourlis: Swap should generally be double ram if you want hibernation.
[17:18] <flintwingel> Gourlis: at least 2GB if you want hibernation
[17:18] <pieterjan> How can I save my alsamixer settings? I thought it was "alsactl store"?
[17:18] <Myrtti> chaos2fu: check up the logs then?
[17:18] <ska> I have an eee 901 asus, Running 904 with LPIA kernel. I can't get wireless to work. Anyone with a 901 able to get theirs working?
[17:18] <cellofellow> Gourlis: getting all sorts of different opinions aren't we?
[17:18] <Gourlis> Alright guys, because by default has 1.29GB swap.
[17:18] <Gourlis> :D
[17:18] <cellofellow> Gourlis: yeah, you want more than that to allow hibernation.
[17:18] <Slart> !swap
[17:19] <chaos2fu> where can i find the logs myrtti?
[17:19] <chris_osx> Gourlis: that's ok
[17:19] <darkham> Myrtti: i've installed the mint menu from 1 mint repo: i only installed other 3 packages, but this was appened one week ago
[17:19] <phar0z> how Can I save my alsamixer settings? isn't it alsactl store?
[17:19] <Gourlis> ok guys thanks a lot! :)
[17:19] <mdm> thanks Slart, if I knew that bot had that I wouldn't have had to type that long explanation by hand :)
[17:19] <franczen> bastidrazor: thanks for the link, but this is simply the ath5k driver. jaunty has this by default
[17:19] <Slart> mdm: =)
[17:20] <bastidrazor> franczen, so does 8.10 but it fails to work correctly.
[17:20] <Myrtti> darkham: there you go then. that's a no-no.
[17:20] <darkham> Myrtti: the software sources windows is failing from today
[17:20] <bastidrazor> franczen, you see the part about blacklisting some modules
[17:20] <ostile17> hello to all :)
[17:21] <phar0z> bastidrazor, I've fixed it with wireless-compat
[17:21] <ostile17> I have a simple question, who can help me?
[17:21] <djuggler> On Ubuntu 8.04, I can be in the middle of typing something and the screen will fade to gray, I'll lose the ability to type, it will fade back to normal, then fade to gray and repeat this several times throughout the day. Is this some kind of confused powersave mode?
[17:21] <Gourlis> Slart, can you give me again the url please with swap FAQ because I wanna know if I delete swap partition where that space will go.
[17:21] <bastidrazor> franczen, there you go.. wireless-compat
[17:21] <darkham> Myrtti: i haven't done anything in my system froma week....
[17:21] <sidh> on my laptop the reboot process stops because of the wireless driver
[17:21] <djuggler> ostile17: you have to ask the question, not permission to ask the question
[17:21] <bastidrazor> phar0z, thanks for the info will make a note
[17:21] <ostile17> :)
[17:22] <phar0z> bastidrazor: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-get-ath5k-working-on-jaunty-with-compat-wireless-and-a-self-compiled-kernel.html
[17:22] <ostile17> I would know if I can see assembly syntax on gedit
[17:22] <ostile17> I need it
[17:22] <Slart> !swap  | Gourlis
[17:22] <Gourlis> thank you Slart
[17:22] <mdm> look its not like doubling 16G of memory to 32G of haddrive space is costly.  Hell the disk is probably a 300G or bigger.  It is basically a no briner, just 2x your physical memory and be done with it
[17:22] <Slart> Gourlis: you're welcome
[17:22] <cptblood> if i wanna update alsamixer, do i need to purge it first?
[17:23] <Slart> cptblood: no
[17:23] <ostile17> ...?
[17:23] <Myrtti> darkham: if you want mint, install mint, if you want ubuntu, install ubuntu, BUT DON'T MIX
[17:23] <sidh> on my laptop the reboot process stops because of the wireless driver, to make it work ok i have to rmmod the wireless driver first, so is there a "gnome" way to execute 'rmmod my_wireless_driver' before rebooting, or do i have to create an appropriate rc0.d/SXscript ?
[17:23] <Myrtti> !mint > darkham
[17:23] <Slart> cptblood: apt can update it in-place, so to speak
[17:24] <elad> Can I make jar files behave like executables? Meaning, can I ./file.jar, and have it automatically execute "java -jar filename.jar" or something like that?
[17:24] <ostile17> someone know how I can see assembly syntax on gedit?
[17:24] <cptblood> Slart: which is the latest version? i've got .18
[17:24] <Slart> elad: you might get better answers for that in a java oriented channel.. isn't there a ##java?
[17:24] <sharperguy> How do I get back/forward buttons on firefox 3? I tried the whole right-clicking next to the address bar and clicking customise, but the back/forward buttons are greyed out so I cannot drag them to the bar
[17:25] <Gourlis> Slart, as I understood if you have 2GB of RAM your swap must be 1GB at least. Am I right? :D
[17:26] <n0gear> has anyone managed to get fuj:tech usb tv working in ubuntu 9.04?
[17:26] <Slart> cptblood: 1.0.18 is what I've got on jaunty, 64bit
[17:26] <cptblood> same here, guess it's latest then
[17:26] <cptblood> 32bit tho
[17:26] <Slart> Gourlis: there are no set limits.. you don't *have to* have swap at all
[17:26] <mcphail> elad: as far as i know you can't do that directly
[17:27] <Gourlis> oki
[17:27] <Myrtti> chaos2fu: I can't seem to find the log out of memory - you could ask the vpn admin to check up theirs as well?
[17:27] <Slart> Gourlis: if you want to use hibernation you have to have at least as much swap as memory though..
[17:27] <mcphail> elad: easy enough to write a single line script that will call it, though
[17:27] <tom2600> tom2600
[17:27] <tom2600> siema ludzie
[17:27] <chris_osx> are there intel gfx hardware accelleration drivers that are better than what comes with ubuntu?
[17:27] <sharperguy> ^ relay that, it let me drag it somehow anyway
[17:27] <tom2600> co tam slychac w starym miescie
[17:27] <tom2600> que pasa troncos
[17:27] <Slart> Gourlis: but if you're not going to use hibernation you can use as much swap as you want.. one old rule says 2xRAM.. some people say 1xRAM these days..it kind of depends on how you use your computer
[17:27] <mdm> Gourlis: you can actually set no swap at all, and still *probably* run fine.  That probably depends on how much you have and what it is you want to run on the box.  But like I said its not like harddrive space is at a premium.
[17:27] <Gourlis> alright Slart, I'll leave it 1.29GB because I don't want to do anything bad again :P
[17:28] <karlmdavis> Could anyone point me in the right direction as to how I would debug random application hangs?  I've not had to troubleshoot that type of problem before on Linux.
[17:28] <mcphail> karlmdavis: first thing to do is to run the app from the terminal
[17:28] <karlmdavis> Top and other things are hanging randomly on two systems I've got and I don't know where to start looking.
[17:29] <karlmdavis> These are servers, so no choice there mcphail.  ;)
[17:29] <Gourlis> mdm, I see my partitions in GParted if you know.. If I delete swap from there, where it will go? I mean 1.29GB (on NTFS for Vista or on Ubuntu, or nowhere?)
[17:29] <mcphail> karlmdavis: :) if top is hanging then there is trouble afoot
[17:29] <mdm> Gourlis: is you delete it, it will not be used.  Just save off some space and recreate it
[17:30] <Gourlis> mdm, alright!
[17:30] <karlmdavis> mcphail: I would agree.  Just don't know how to go about tracking said trouble down.
[17:30] <Turtal> hello people im having some trouble rendering a jasper subreport under ubuntu-repository-installed tomcat6
[17:31] <Turtal> does anybody has any experience on the matter?
[17:31] <ostile17> no one can help me :(
[17:31] <Lint01> is there the way to quickly delete all developer library packages?
[17:31] <chazco> Hi... i'm considering duel booting 7.10 and 9.04 with a shared /home - will this work?
[17:31] <karlmdavis> They're both VMs running 8.04-- one's VirtualBox and the other's VMWare.
[17:32] <karlmdavis> That's all they have in common: one's a Zimbra mail server and the other's an Apache/Hudson/SVN server.
[17:32] <Turtal> can anybody give me a hand here?
[17:34] <AlexStacey> hi, i've just upgraded from 8.04 to 9.04 through the graphical package manager thing and now get a gnome login terminal with the text input in Hebrew. Does anyone know how I can get it back to English? thanks
[17:35] <Lint01> AlexStacey: try pulldoen menus, there is the languahe option
[17:35] <mdm> AlexStacey: learn hebrew :).. No really just use the pulldown for locality
[17:35] <chazco> Hi... i'm considering duel booting 7.10 and 9.04 with a shared /home - will this work?
[17:35] <AlexStacey> I've tried the pulldowns but no joy
[17:36] <AlexStacey> they have english listed but it won't switch to them
[17:36] <steven> hmm
[17:36] <mdm> AlexStacey: then log into a terminal and Edit /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local
[17:37] <mdm> AlexStacey: then edit /etc/environment, putting in en_US as LANG
[17:37]  * steven isnt sure
[17:37] <AlexStacey> mdm: hmm.. that has en_US and en_GB listed
[17:37]  * steven is sure
[17:38] <nano404> Anyone familiar with Super Grub Disk? I keep getting error 17. "Cannot mount selected partition" Thanks.
[17:38] <mdm> AlexStacey: sorry /etc/default/locale
[17:39] <arand> sb arand
[17:39] <AlexStacey> hmm... /etc/default/locale is en_GB
[17:40] <ryanprior> When I type "ssh me@mybox", I can log in just fine. When I go to Places -> Connect to Server and try to open a view in Nautilus, it fails saying "ssh program unexpectedly exited" -- how do I fix it?
[17:40] <cptblood> i added a remote share with sshfs exampe.com:/path /media/path
[17:40] <zanden> anyone could have an idea about setting up a telnet server in an e-learning based environment , where an instructor can allow the candidates choose their accounts and can change their password for the first time ?
[17:40] <cptblood> but when i try to access that /media/path, i get Permission denied
[17:40] <AlexStacey> i think i might be best off burning a jaunty cd and starting again
[17:41] <mdm> zanden write a php script to a frontend to adduser, since you are using telnet I assume you dont care about security
[17:42] <n0gear> how do i remove timestamps in irssi
[17:42] <zanden> mdm , the problem i don't have any programming background to do that , if i could , i will directly write a shell script to perform that task
[17:44] <bullgard4> What authorities request to run the 'ALSA Information Script' /home/<username>/bin/alsa-info.sh?
[17:44] <mdm> zanden you do understand writing any such thing is a very bad security idea and anyone can cause a lot of damage with little or no effort, right?
[17:46] <ryanprior> zanden: Why use telnet and not a system based on something more modern? (XMPP comes to mind)
[17:46] <sladen> wii MOPAK
[17:47] <LuciusMare> hello
[17:47] <zanden> ryanakca, i just want users to access command line , the machine i intend to perform that task in , is just for explaining some linux concepts
[17:47] <mdm> zanden for that matter tech them what ssh is, make then genreate keys and give you their public key.  Then disallow plain text passwords.  Not only would you be giving them access but also teaching them essntail knowledge of proper system administration
[17:47] <zanden> opss sorry  i mean ryanprior
[17:47] <ryanprior> zanden: If you want a simple CLI environment, your students could use SSH.
[17:48] <zanden> ryanakca, i know ssh is better solution, but can i automate this process with it ?
[17:48] <demanufacture> hello
[17:48] <zanden> mdm, you are right sure , but i was asking about how could automate this process that's all
[17:49] <ryanprior> zanden: Anything you can automate with telnet, you can also automate with ssh.
[17:49] <mdm> yes zanden just as easily as you can with telnet. But if you let them just create whatever they want, its still insecure
[17:49] <demanufacture> is there way to user pocketPC device as wifi card?
[17:49] <demanufacture> use*
[17:50] <zanden> ryanprior, and that's what am asking for , how to perform that
[17:50] <lunix> Hi people! I my problem is that i have a pretty tired digital camera. Colors are bad, but except for that, its a ok camera. Anyone knows about a tool in ubuntu or one of the programs where colors can be ajusted/corrected automaticly. There is a function for that i Vista i know..  If not, could this be a idea for a EOG upgrade? :)
[17:50] <ryanprior> zanden: there are lots of neat things you can do with the CLI. creating users and setting passwords isn't the most exciting thing to do, and it can cause trouble and headache, so I would suggest creating the users yourself and letting them do other things.
[17:50] <zanden> mdm , i know are completely right but the machine is just for teaching purposes not more
[17:50] <shashi> I am using ubuntu 9.04. I want Tomboy notes should start automatically whenever i boot my machine. How can i do this ?
[17:51] <ryanprior> lunix: You can use The GIMP to do color correction. I don't know if it does auto-correct, but if not there's probably a plugin for it.
[17:51] <nano404> Anyone familiar with Super Grub Disk? I keep getting error 17. "Cannot mount selected partition" Thanks.
[17:51] <mdm> zanden: the heart of the problem is that to add users the program needs to run with root access.  Having a program, especialy a shell that does that is asking for problems.  If all you want to do is set it up temporaily at the very least image the box and reimage it every day or such
[17:51] <zanden> ryanprior, well if i could not do that , then the solution is to do that manually
[17:51] <ryanprior> shashi: System -> Preferences -> Sessions, add tomboy as a session
[17:51] <mdm> zanden but to create a shell is fairly easy, just have them put in a username and password, then pass that to adduser to create the account.
[17:51] <demanufacture> is there way to use pocketPC device as wifi card?
[17:52] <arand> shashi: add it to startup allpications under system-preferences menu
[17:52] <phoenixz> I need to know the *name* of a process that every now and then is changing a file.. How can I monitor that file to get that process name?
[17:52] <zanden> mdm, thanks , it seems that could be my only solution
[17:52] <AlexStacey> cheers guys - reinstalling will fix it i'm sure =]
[17:53] <mdm> zanden most certainly not, have the accounts created by hand, give them temp passwords and the first thing they do when they log in is change it to something more secure
[17:53] <papersoul> hello
[17:53] <lunix> ryanprior: Thanks:) I found the color correction posibilities there, but I found my self to be pretty bad ajusting it.. Usually photos turned out a lot worse than the originals :)   Ill try to find a plugin for it then. Thanks for helping!
[17:53] <ryanprior> Hello papersoul.
[17:53] <papersoul> i was wondering if anyone can help me with this issue i have
[17:53] <mdm> zanden if you REALLY want to teach them have them create ssh key pairs and show then they can publish their public key to whomever they please and still be as secure as the private key is
[17:54] <ryanprior> lunix: You can ask in #gimp which plugin would be best.
[17:54] <arand> !ask | papersoul
[17:54] <papersoul> i keep getting dropped connections
[17:54] <papersoul> i have a usb wifi card
[17:54] <zanden> mdm , it will be a good idea then to teach them the most secured way
[17:54] <papersoul> running 9.04
[17:54] <mdm> zanden additionally you can show them how to forward ports in SSH and do things like run xterm or something
[17:55] <zanden> mdm, thanks alot for all these info , appreciated your help
[17:55] <mdm> np
[17:55] <papersoul> anyone?
[17:56] <ryanprior> papersoul: Has the behaviour changed recently? Does it work differently with a different distribution or operating system? Does the behaviour change if you physically move the computer from place to place?
[17:56] <papersoul> no, i have 4 bars
[17:56] <papersoul> but ever since i installed, it has never fully worked
[17:57] <ryanprior> How do you know that you are getting dropped connections?
[17:57] <papersoul> i've looked online and there has been some issues with it before
[17:57] <IHS_intern> is there anything for setting up Beowulf clusters in ubuntu? considering playing around with some of the dells that have bad primary IDE controllers
[17:57] <mdm> in fact zanden I would use it also as a way to show them that everything you do in a graphical enviroment can be done by command line.  Put in pine. mutt or something, sow the lynx, wget etc.  And teach them they dont HAVE to have X or a mouse to do anything
[17:57] <papersoul> it will connect to the router and sometimes let me surf maybe a page then drops
[17:58] <ryanprior> papersoul: When it drops, does it reconnect automatically?
[17:58] <papersoul> yes
[17:58] <solifugus> On the ubuntu livecd, how can a person get quickly to a console window?
[17:59] <Malicia> accessories -> console
[17:59] <solifugus> I need to explain to someone over the phone, and I use kubuntu, not ubuntu
[17:59] <ryanprior> papersoul: That sounds like generic lousy wifi to me. Back to the questions about different operating systems, computer locations, recent behaviour changes?
[17:59] <mdm> IHS_intern: they need to have boot proms in the NICs, but I assume you already knew this
[17:59] <JohnWittle> My eth0 gateway is broken.
[17:59] <JohnWittle> In the network manager, it appears greyed out
[18:00] <Malicia> solifugus, Kubuntu is the same thing as Ubuntu, only the desktop environment is KDE and not Gnome
[18:00] <IHS_intern> mdm: I can do live-CD, as well, and they do support network booting.
[18:00] <papersoul> hmmmmm it is only one room away from the router....
[18:00] <solifugus> Malicia: the menus are different
[18:00] <papersoul> no recent behavior changes since it has always done this....
[18:00] <lisa1> hello
[18:00] <solifugus> Malicia: once in the console, can she just "sudo su -" and be root without a password?
[18:00] <mdm> IHS_intern: then you need to read up on PXE booting, setting up a tftp server and get them to boot.  After that read up and set up the cluster
[18:00] <Malicia> solifugus, I guess so. But it's not a different OS
[18:01] <Malicia> solifugus, that's dangerous!
[18:01] <lisa1> my hp printer stops halfway through printjob xubuntu
[18:01] <lisa1> any ideas?
[18:01] <solifugus> Malicia: she wants to know how to partition and format an old PC...
[18:01] <solifugus> all she could do is destroy what she wants to destroy..
[18:02] <papersoul> so even though the bars are high....
[18:02] <phoenixz> apt-get update gives me E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/mx.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_jaunty-updates_universe_binary-i386_Packages... What is this and how do I fix it?
[18:02] <mdm> in fact zanden you could use PXE to setup the students workstations, then when they are done you dont have as much a clean up headache
[18:02] <whazilla> highbar
[18:02] <papersoul> i should try.... moving the location of the pc?
[18:02] <Malicia> solifugus, how old?
[18:02] <lisa1> my hp printer stops part way through print job xubuntu
[18:02] <zanden> mdm , managing one machine is better that a farm of them :)
[18:03] <whazilla> farmwareµ
[18:03] <arand> solifugus: alt+F2 then type gnome-terminal and enter, "sudo -i" is the command to use for root session
[18:04] <solifugus> arand: i didn't think alt-f2 worked in gnome?
[18:04] <Malicia> ctrl + alt + F2
[18:05] <whazilla> srccoreloader
[18:05] <Malicia> but it's too dangerous to give root rights to someone like this!
[18:05] <solifugus> Malicia: yea.. that one works on all linuces..
[18:05] <whazilla> yea
[18:05] <whazilla> gimme root or else !
[18:05] <arand> solifugus it invokes the gnome-run-application window per default
[18:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !noroot > whazilla
[18:05] <Malicia> Linuces = *x :p
[18:06] <solifugus> Malicia and arand: I am just booting ubuntu on a virtualbox image...
[18:06] <whatvn> give someone sudo permission is very dangerous
[18:06] <whazilla> Jack_Sparrow: could allso gimme sudoers user aka root
[18:07] <whazilla> instead of having troubleof having one root passwd use sudoers
[18:07] <whatvn> whatzilla: give you sudoers means give you root
[18:07] <whazilla> no
[18:07] <solifugus> It's Application->Accessories->Terminal, and "sudo su -" works..
[18:07] <Malicia> solifugus, I understand nothing of what u try to do
[18:07] <mdm> solifugus: log into the box as an unprilidged user, then use sudo each and every time you need to change a settings.  Try not to rely on it least you have the skill to debig permission programs when you accidently create a root owned file in your home directory
[18:07] <whazilla> means give me a useraccount on ur dist ... one of the sudo groep .. oh yea its root
[18:07] <Malicia> solifugus, GL
[18:07] <whatvn> whatzilla: sudo su - give you root
[18:07] <whazilla> not if urnot a sudoers
[18:07] <Jack_Sparrow> solifugus Please Do Not Suggest sudo su as an option in this chanel.. thank you
[18:08] <solifugus> Malicia: I just rememberd I had virtualbox installed and the ISO downloaded, so it just occurred to me that I could test it out myself real quick..
[18:08] <ANTRat> !root
[18:08] <Jack_Sparrow> solifugus  Instead of Sudo SU...  Please use sudo -i it properly sets up the environment variable in the resulting shell.
[18:08] <whatvn> whatzilla: nothing happens :-p
[18:08] <whazilla> use john the ripper
[18:08] <whazilla> better then guessing
[18:08] <Malicia> solifugus, what do u want to do precisely?
[18:09] <Malicia> whazilla, very smart pfff
[18:09] <solifugus> Malicia: just give email isntructions on how she can partition and format some hard drives from a livecd
[18:09] <whatvn> !offtopic | whazilla
[18:09] <solifugus> Malicia: I got it now..
[18:09] <sebsebseb> !dualboot |  solifugus
[18:09] <Malicia> solifugus, what for?
[18:09] <sebsebseb> !install | solifugus
[18:10] <whazilla> so i got hoary then installed hardy repos cuz hoary is nomore .... now cant update cuz of dpkg -f
[18:10] <Jack_Sparrow> solifugus If they have internet while running live, have them install xchat etc for that session to get treal time help
[18:10] <cptblood> anyone using clonezilla?
[18:10] <solifugus> Malicia: She's a psychyatris.. wants to give away her old computers but needs to wipe them of confidential data, first..
[18:10] <sebsebseb> whazilla: you put hardy repos in hoary?
[18:10] <Malicia> solifugus, how old?
[18:10] <whazilla> yea
[18:10] <whazilla> :)
[18:10] <sebsebseb> whazilla: well you can't upgrade like that
[18:10] <whazilla> its working
[18:10] <solifugus> About 3 and 5 years each.. there are actually a few of them
[18:11] <whazilla> sick trick apt-get -f upgrade
[18:11] <sebsebseb> whazilla: you have to upgrade to  breezy and so on from there, untill you got dapper the first LTS, then you can directly upgrade to hardy
[18:11] <whazilla> meh
[18:11] <sebsebseb> whazilla: anything else shoudn't work,  or it may go bad
[18:11] <whazilla> no time for that
[18:11] <whazilla> ilike bad
[18:11] <Malicia> solifugus, how much RAM?
[18:11] <whazilla> im badass myself
[18:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > whazilla
[18:12] <whazilla> Jack_Sparrow: u aint the hardy pirate i used to know ?
[18:12] <RickX> can anyone tell me how to play ogg videos in firefox?
[18:12] <Jack_Sparrow> waofftopic, but one and the same, here since badger
[18:13] <whazilla> :)
[18:13] <bullgard4> No sound, neither in the built-in loudspeakers nor in the headphones. (TeamSpeak2) System > Settings > (Sound Settings) > Devices > (Sound Events) > Sound playback: Autodetect > Test reports: "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audiosample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect stream: invalid argument". How to fix this?
[18:13] <solifugus> Malicia: not sure how much ram.. I am not there looking at them
[18:13] <whazilla> here since 2k bug
[18:13] <sebsebseb> RickX: Firefox 3.1 well 3.5 even  has support for the <video> tag  and <audo> tag and built in OGG support
[18:13] <Malicia> solifugus, u should
[18:13] <sebsebseb> RickX: Firefox 3.5 is not quite released yet, and Ubuntu does not have it in the repo of course, however you can install the latest development version directly from Mozilla
[18:13] <mdm> solifugus: if that computer contains patient information I would HIGHLY suggest you read up on HIPPA and follow the electronic destruction policy
[18:14] <Malicia> solifugus, old pc do not support Ubuntu quite often
[18:14] <whazilla> Jack_Sparrow: why would u go thru the hassle of upgrading three not four times ?
[18:14] <Jack_Sparrow> solifugus have her run livecd and do the install it will format the drive and repartition for her
[18:14] <whazilla> hoary>hardy inone -f upgrade
[18:14] <RickX> ... so how do I  play ogg video in firefox 3.0.10
[18:14] <whazilla> RickX: mplayer?
[18:14] <Jack_Sparrow> whazilla I would NOT, fresh install with /home on sep is the only way to go
[18:14] <solifugus> mdm: it does... maybe I'll just give her a DoD wiper program.. but they are proprietary and I'd be an illegal copy.
[18:14] <SirMontu> Hey guys, I have my server setup with ubuntu but while executing php scripts it appears that apache doesn't have permission to write files and I was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction on changing that?
[18:14] <sebsebseb> solifugus: how much RAM does the old PC have?
[18:14] <whazilla> on sep?
[18:15] <sebsebseb> RickX: you can't, unless something like the mplayer-plugin for FIrefox does it or some such
[18:15] <mcphail> solifugus: disks can be securely wiped from the command line with dd
[18:15] <Jack_Sparrow> whazilla same hard drive, diff partition
[18:15] <whazilla> i did a fresh install in qemu fromcd 5.04 desktop
[18:15] <mdm> solifugus: mount the drive in another computer and use dd. Ill warn you ahead of time it takes multiple hours
[18:15] <Emjay> hello
[18:15] <whazilla> then changed repos to hardy
[18:15] <solifugus> mdm: I got out of the healthcare industry just before HIPPA became mandatroy.. I vaguely remember taking a course on it.. but never got certified.
[18:15] <sebsebseb> whazilla: why are you installing form such an old ISO?
[18:15] <whazilla> cuz
[18:15] <mdm> and solifugus DOD compliane is to drill holes in the drive, Im pretty sure you dont want to do that
[18:15] <flintwingel> solifugus: google for dban,
[18:15] <boss_mc> mcphail: that's exceptionally slow and still not very decure
[18:15] <solifugus> mcphail: really?  do you know the syntax to make that work?
[18:15] <whazilla> i ordered ubuntu cd online for free
[18:15] <boss_mc> *secure
[18:16] <whazilla> and got like 500 cd's
[18:16] <RickX> totem plays the video, and the totem plugin is installed, but all I get is gibberish in firefox
[18:16] <sebsebseb> whazilla: 500 CD's that you weren't able to give out to people?
[18:16] <whazilla> i did give out
[18:16] <whazilla> i only have 10now
[18:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[18:16] <solifugus> mdm: that depends on the level of classification... and what it'll be re-used for...
[18:16] <solifugus> mdm: the DoD certifies DoD wipers..
[18:16] <mcphail> boss_mc: can you explain why it isn't secure. Please give a real-world example where a disk written multiple times with dd has been read.
[18:17] <Jack_Sparrow> solifugus Please drop the offtopic
[18:17] <Emjay> I've got a question ... I have transmission and everytime i open a torrent file it takes about 10-15 seconds before it gives me the torrentlist and the window with the add button...anything simple to fix ?
[18:17] <whazilla> but what i like most is stripping ubuntu ... and installing jack afterwards
[18:17] <mdm> solifugus: its HIPPA there is one classificaion, patient records
[18:17] <solifugus> Jack_Sparrow: ok.. sure
[18:17] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[18:17] <AD-N770> is this the appropriate channel for questions about ubuntu MID edition ?
[18:17] <sebsebseb> whazilla: ok well hope that was a lot of Ubuntu converts, anyway going back on topic, you could have  ordered a later CD yourself, or  downloaded and burnt your own.  and  something can go wrong as I already said if you just use the hardy repos in 5.04
[18:17] <mcphail> solifugus: "sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/whateverdisk bs=1024". Do that 3 times.
[18:17] <Emjay> And most programs with anything that opens any folder on my comp takes forever
[18:18] <whazilla> sebsebseb: its okey ... its rollin
[18:18] <Emjay> any help is appreciated
[18:18] <Jack_Sparrow> AD-N770 what is the MID edition..  Probably not one of our supported versions
[18:18] <mcphail> solifugus: run it from a livecd
[18:18] <maek> some of my drives show up in "places" and I can double click them to mount them, but when I reboot they dont auto mount at startup, is there a way to make it so they do mount at startup?
[18:18] <whazilla> Emjay: did u activate swap yet ?
[18:18] <geirha> mcphail, solifugus: Why not just use shred?
[18:18] <Emjay> hrm...
[18:18] <Jack_Sparrow> maek edit fstab
[18:18] <Emjay> dont think so whazilla
[18:18] <Emjay> never heard anyone say that
[18:18] <maek> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, I got that but then they dont show up as drives in "places" any more
[18:18] <Slart> !info wipe
[18:18] <Emjay> lol
[18:18] <whazilla> its a gentoo thing
[18:18] <sebsebseb> whazilla: well something might go wrong after the updates have been installed
[18:19] <AD-N770> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile
[18:19] <ralmar> Quick guys how do i cancel the "shutdown" command, my pc will shutdown in 2 mins and i need to cancel it thanks
[18:19] <solifugus> geirha: shred?  didn't know it existed.. but dd'ing from /dev/random should do that..
[18:19] <Jack_Sparrow> maek sudo mkdir /media/whatever... create mount in fstab and that should be all you need
[18:19] <mcphail> geirha: what mechanism does shred use? Can it do a whole disk/partition? I suggested dd because i know what that does
[18:19] <whazilla> sebsebseb: what could go wrong when one userbase is replaced by another ? ... my guess is nothing ;)
[18:19] <Emjay> so do i need to do such a thing
[18:19] <Jasa> Quick question, what was the command to see what programs uses the device file ?
[18:19] <Slart> Jasa: lsof?
[18:19] <maek> Jack_Sparrow: so its the fact that the dir is mounted in /media that makes gnome see it as a drive and list it in places, nothing else? thanks
[18:19] <mcphail> solifugus: don't dd from /dev/random. Use /dev/urandom
[18:19] <geirha> mcphail, solifugus: Yes. "man shred"
[18:19] <sebsebseb> whazilla: well Ubuntu/Canoncial do not advice doing what you did, and I assume they have good reasons for that
[18:20] <whazilla> Emjay: uname -r ... df   .... df will tell u swap
[18:20] <AD-N770> I would like to add the i386 repositories to the recently installed ubuntu MID in a certain device, this is arch lpia
[18:20] <AD-N770> just to add some few pieces of software that aren't in the port repositories
[18:20] <whazilla> sebsebseb: good reasons to stop evolution? hoaryhardy har har
[18:20] <solifugus> mcphail: what's the diff?
[18:20] <evilcartman> Hi, could anyone give me some help with editing GRUB?
[18:20] <sebsebseb> whazilla: what?
[18:20] <mcphail> geirha: i'd direct you to the caveats at the bottom of the man page. And the whole disk needs to be overwritten - not just visible files
[18:21] <sebsebseb> evilcartman: probably
[18:21] <Slart> evilcartman: sure.. what do you want to do
[18:21] <mdm> actually solifugus just remove the harddrive before you give the system away.  Its much easier (and legally defensible) if you do not include the drive to begin with.
[18:21] <whazilla> i think its evolution when i dont give a fuck about the latest distro and just install the base i feld good with
[18:21] <mcphail> solifugus: /dev/random will hang waiting for "entropy" - it will take forever.
[18:21] <whazilla> cuz after the drake ubuintu has been a bitch
[18:21] <sebsebseb> !language | whazilla
[18:21] <Emjay> Sysinfo: [Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz (2400 MHz)] | [1987 MB] | [Linux (2.6.28-11-generic)] | [load: 1.62 (5 min)] | [0d 23h 27m up]
[18:21] <whazilla> sorry
[18:21] <Emjay> oops
[18:21] <Slart> mcphail: "it's the only way to be sure" =)
[18:21] <AD-N770> there's any trick that I could use to mix 2 architecture in the installed device
[18:21] <boss_mc> mcphail: http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings/sec96/full_papers/gutmann/index.html
[18:21] <boss_mc> "Data overwritten once or twice may be recovered by subtracting what is expected to be read from a storage location from what is actually read. Data which is overwritten an arbitrarily large number of times can still be recovered provided that the new data isn't written to the same location as the original data (for magnetic media), or that the recovery attempt is carried out fairly soon after the new data was written (for RAM)."
[18:21] <whazilla> but its true sslpro police packages that deal with bufferrunderruns and dont lemme installany toolcghain and soon
[18:22] <Slart> mcphail: or the evil terrorist scientist will be able to retrieve your irclogs =)
[18:22] <evilcartman> well, my problem is that when I made my first installation, I botched it and ended up with a partition far too small as it was sharing my XP drive. I wanted to put it on my other drive. I have now done that - but the old installation is still showing in GRUB as well as the new one
[18:22] <Emjay> i dont enderstand whazilla
[18:22] <LuciusMare> one question,what would command "for (( x=0 ; x<50 ; x++ )) ; do eject '' eject -t ; done" do?
[18:22] <mcphail> boss_mc: as i said, can you quote a real-world episode?
[18:22] <whazilla> df -h
[18:22] <whazilla> df
[18:22] <nubee> Greetings all, I am unable to install ebox. getting error "Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code". Can someone help?
[18:22] <Slart> LuciusMare: opens and closes the cd-rom 50 times or so
[18:22] <whazilla> uname -r
[18:22] <whazilla> in terminal
[18:23] <AD-N770> to avoid messages like package architecture (i386) does not match system (lpia)
[18:23] <LuciusMare> Slart: i thought so,thanks
[18:23] <Slart> LuciusMare: or something like that.. not sure what eject -t really does.. I think it's close cd
[18:23] <AD-N770> and just be able to install with apt-get certain packages from the i386
[18:23] <mcphail> boss_mc: nothing beyond a hammer and blowtorch can protect against the scanning microscope. Doesn't mean anyone has the time or resoyrces to use it
[18:23] <boss_mc> mcphail: that's basically my point
[18:23] <mdm> Slart depends on the CDROM/DVD, but yes mostly
[18:23] <gordonjcp> mcphail: only for extremely old hard disks
[18:23] <Emjay> ok done whazilla i see the info
[18:24] <Jack_Sparrow> AD-N770 are you running 64 bit and trying to install 32 bit packages
[18:24] <boss_mc> mcphail: he's discussing DoD level destruction and you've suggested dd
[18:24] <thebitguru> Hi, I have changed ssh to listen on port 4444 instead of the default, but I can't seem to connect. ufw shows port 4444/tcp as open, local nmap shows 4444 as open, but a remote nmap scan does not.  Can someone please help me figure out where it is being blocked?
[18:24] <AD-N770> no, both are 32 bits intel
[18:24] <nubee> Can someone help me for ebox installation please?
[18:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !ebox
[18:24] <gordonjcp> boss_mc: in theory, you can read overwritten bits, but only on drives made more than about 15 years ago
[18:24] <AD-N770> lpia means low powered interl architecture
[18:24] <mcphail> boss_mc: even the DoD has never been able to do that
[18:24] <boss_mc> although interestingly http://16systems.com/zero.php
[18:24] <Slart> LuciusMare: except it contains an error.. you have to replace '' with ;   I'm on round 2 so far =D
[18:25] <LuciusMare> :)
[18:25] <Jack_Sparrow> mcphail gordonjcp Please move the offtopic please
[18:25] <whazilla> Emjay: and? df ? swap
[18:25] <Carb> people
[18:25] <Carb> I have a question
[18:25] <Carb> where to get ati drivers for laptops on ubuntu?
[18:25] <Slart> !ati | Carb
[18:25] <whazilla> move offtopic plz ...ub is done
[18:25] <gordonjcp> Jack_Sparrow: what's offtopic?
[18:25] <gordonjcp> Jack_Sparrow: isn't this a support channel?
[18:25] <Carb> kty
[18:25] <mcphail> Jack_Sparrow: this is response to support request
[18:25] <Emjay> df -h shows me allot of stuff would you like me to pm it to you ?
[18:26] <gordonjcp> Jack_Sparrow: you're a bit too quick to jump on "OT"
[18:26] <whazilla> okey Emjay
[18:26] <sebsebseb> !ot
[18:26] <Jack_Sparrow> gordonjcp Ubuntu support , NOT the merits of different wiping techniques
[18:26] <whazilla> !offtopic ub
[18:26] <gordonjcp> Jack_Sparrow: is boss_mc using Ubuntu?
[18:26] <gordonjcp> Hmmm, yes he is
[18:26] <mdm> mcphail: regardless of if it can be done, should be done and what is reasonable, DOD requires physical destruction of the media HIPPA suggests it.  Its easier to simply pull the drive before the system is re-purposed
[18:26] <boss_mc> gordonjcp: yes, you could have asked me...
[18:26] <evilcartman> anyone? how do I edit the GRUB menu? I want to remove an old Ubuntu installation that is still showing up on the menu as well as the new installation. I've wiped the partitions but it's still showing up on GRUB
[18:27] <Emjay> sent
[18:27] <boss_mc> evilcartman: look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:27] <phoenixz> Is there a packager of "opennebula" for ubuntu on this channel available?
[18:27] <bastidrazor> evilcartman, you could do sudo update-grub instead of manually editing it.
[18:27] <sebsebseb> evilcartman: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:28] <mcphail> mdm: agreed, but the data should be wiped before the disk is removed. and "dd" is the perfect tool for that which was the reply to the original question. But agreed - further discussion should go to OT
[18:28] <blip-> does 8.10 come with pulseaudio by default ?
[18:28] <sebsebseb> blip-: yes
[18:28] <gordonjcp> mcphail: Jack_Sparrow is whining about ot, let's take it to #u-ot
[18:28] <Slart> blip-: if I recall correctly, yes
[18:28] <gordonjcp> mcphail: or for that matter, #ubuntu-nowhining
[18:29] <whazilla> #ubuntu-extrawine
[18:29] <fallleaf> in 9.04 skype mic input does not work, who can help me?
[18:29] <Emjay> hey how do i make a tmpfile image as swap
[18:29] <blip-> ok... but strangely enough, I just restarted alsa manually and sound stopped working from my usb headset or from the system speaker... I tried to restart pulseaudio and then found the package was not installed !  how can that be. strange
[18:30] <evilcartman> bastidrazor, thanks. will that keep my XP boot on there as well, or has that gone now?
[18:30] <whazilla> Jack_Sparrow:  do u know this one ontopic ? how tomake a tmpfile image be the swap
[18:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !coc > gordonjcp
[18:30] <Slart> blip-: pulseaudio might be installed by default.. but you might have uninstalled it at some time
[18:30] <whazilla> cuz Emjay has no swap listed on df
[18:30] <enmand> :o
[18:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !guidelines > gordonjcp
[18:30] <Emjay> :/
[18:30] <whazilla> Jack ?
[18:30] <bastidrazor> evilcartman, that double checks what the menu.lst has to see if it is still there. since xp is still there it will keep it
[18:30] <whazilla> u here
[18:30] <Jack_Sparrow> whazilla I saw a tutorial on it, but I have never done it
[18:30] <blip-> Slart:  I didn't uninstall :)   I set up my usb headset yesterday and it worked, could it have worked without pulse audio installed ?
[18:30] <sushiX> is there a IP messenger like tool in ubuntu so that i can chat with my friends on the lan using windows
[18:30] <Emjay> it shows swap in my system resources
[18:31] <Emjay> in system monitor
[18:31] <AD-N770> Jack_Sparrow: from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/release/  the ubuntu-9.04-mid-lipa.img
[18:31] <whazilla> could u care for Emjay ?.? .... i dont easily know
[18:31] <mdm> sushiX: pidgen?
[18:31] <Slart> blip-: well.. pulseaudio is more of a ... mixer thingy that runs on top of alsa.. alsa is still there.. doing the heavy lifting
[18:31] <pittoni> francais
[18:31] <whazilla> Emjay: could describe the realproblemagain ?
[18:31] <evilcartman> bastidrazor: thanks, I thought it would, but was double-checking. this is my first day on Ubuntu ;-)
[18:31] <Flannel> !fr | pittoni
[18:31] <Carb> how can I do this? "The display driver requires POSIX shared memory to be enabled on the system."?
[18:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !fr > pittoni
[18:31] <Carb> how can I enable it
[18:31] <AD-N770> I've installed this because the device I'm running is a pentium mobile 600MHz with a touch screen
[18:32] <AD-N770> and the distro is well suited for the device
[18:32] <AD-N770> I know that cpu isn't lpia
[18:32] <Slart> blip-: so in short.. yes.. you might have installed and used a headset without noticing pulseaudio wasn't there
[18:32] <blip-> pittoni: Joe Maple France Says
[18:32] <whazilla> Emjay: could care to clarify ur problem ur having in the mechanical world ?
[18:32] <Vlet> sushiX: Didn't that feature in windows get disabled in Xp SP2?
[18:32] <AD-N770> but at the end is also a intel 32 bits
[18:32] <bastidrazor> evilcartman, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/  .. is a great place to visit
[18:32] <Emjay> Ya Programs like Transmission ... If i Download a .torrent file...and dbl click it to open in transmission or have it open automatically it takes forever ...the program hangs a message pops up saying transmission is already running then after about 10-15 sseconds it loads
[18:32] <Vlet> sushiX: or are you talking about MSN Messenger?
[18:32] <Slart> blip-: ouch.. that was bad..
[18:33] <blip-> Slart: I see.  I think I'll restart the system and see what happens
[18:33] <AD-N770> probably the best would be switch from lpia to i386
[18:33] <sushiX> Vlet, ip messenger is a program you can run on windows to chat and share files on a LAN
[18:33] <blip-> Slart: you mean my french :D
[18:33] <Jack_Sparrow> evilcartman http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html
[18:33] <whazilla> Emjay: def swap
[18:33] <Carb> !help
[18:33] <Sidus> Hi everybody, someone have informations about this pci adapter? wl-660GT SparkLan (Broadcom). in the 9.03 version of Ubuntu, bcm43xx modules and ndiswrapper too won't work, i tried in every possible way. PS. My apologies for my English
[18:33] <AD-N770> and do an update there, but I don't know if is that possible
[18:33] <whazilla> Emjay: google ubuntu swapon
[18:33] <Emjay> kk
[18:33] <genii> sushiX: For internal use there is linpopup which is compatible with the old Winpopup internal messaging
, want chat and share files on the LAN
[18:34] <whazilla> maybe add howto
[18:34] <Vlet> sushiX: ahh... right on their home page is a link to http://gipmsg.sourceforge.net/
[18:34] <mdm> sushiX: look up pidgen, it has plugins for just about any of the IMs out there
[18:34] <mdm> and sushiX its one of many, mostly its a matter of opinion which one you want to use
[18:34] <NimoTh> Hi there
[18:35] <Vlet> NimoTh: aloha
[18:35] <Sticks> I have a kaffeine question about playing DVD's
[18:35] <xjunior> is there a way to know the speed of the RAM (533, 667, 800..._?
[18:35] <NimoTh> do you know what exactly happens when I use the "-backup=t" flag with "mv"?
[18:35] <sushiX> Thanx guys lookin at the link
[18:35] <NimoTh> I couldn't find out where the files are backed up
[18:35] <whazilla> bye Emjay :)
[18:36] <whazilla> im gonners
[18:36] <Emjay> by
[18:36] <kholerabbi> hey, is there a terminal command for seeing all my audio levels?
[18:36] <Emjay> sudo fdisk -l shows swap
[18:36] <Shadowpillar> !xen
[18:36] <flintwingel> xjunior:  sudo dmidecode -t memory
[18:36] <thebitguru> never mind, I figured it out.  Port 4444 is being blocked by ISP because of blaster worm.  Thanks anyways
[18:37] <xjunior> flintwingel, "speed: unknown"
[18:37] <xjunior> :P
[18:37] <hypn0> what does ubufox do? is there a list somewhere? i read the changelog, and it doesnt seem do to much, but introduce more bugs
[18:38] <Sticks> when I try and play a DVD with kaffeine I get this mess
[18:38] <geirha> NimoTh: "--backup=t" (note two dashes), will make a backup of the destination file if it already exists. without --backup, it will just overwrite any exisiting destination file
[18:38] <Slart> !pastebin | Sticks
[18:38] <Emjay> anyone have any ideas ?
[18:38] <Carb> how can I execute *.run files?
[18:38] <NimoTh> geirha: Ah, ok thanks!
[18:38] <jadams_> is anyone in here familiar with `openssl dgst` or just text/binary distinction in general?  specifically, `echo 'foo' | openssl dgst -md5` is sensible to me, but I don't know what adding the -binary flag does there...that is, how to do the same thing, elsewhere
[18:39] <Slart> Carb: sh blablabla.run   might work
[18:39] <hatter243> Carb, chmod +x [file.run]; ./[file.run]
[18:39] <Carb> k
[18:39] <Slart> Carb: or what hatter243 said
[18:40] <Sticks> when I try and play a DVD on kaffeine I get this message
[18:40] <mdm> Emjay: might I suggest you use swapon -s to show swap and what is used rather then simply list the swap partitions with fdisk
[18:40] <Slart> !pastebin | Sticks
[18:40] <caraewilton> Hi, wondering if anyone can hep me.  I have installed ubuntu on an old desktop (previously ran windows xp).  The install goes fine, but when I restart the computer just hangs at the startup screen.  Just an orange screen, nothing more happens.
[18:40] <Emjay> /dev/sda5                               partition	6040400	16284	-1
[18:40] <Slart> is it just me... or does sticks drop every time he/she's about to paste something?
[18:40] <slawek> hi i have troubles.. i can't change resolution
[18:41] <geirha> NimoTh: the =t means the backups will be numbered, so if you overwrite the same file twice, you'll have two backups, file.~1~ and file.~2~
[18:41] <Emjay> slawek,  nvidia .. gksudo nvidia-settings change it and save to xorg.conf
[18:41] <sebsebseb> caraewilton: ok
[18:41] <NimoTh> geirha: Yes, I read the information about the numbered. I just didn't know where the backup went. So the backup is just "in place" and only if the file exists.
[18:41] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[18:41] <sebsebseb> caraewilton: how much RAM?
[18:42] <Maro_> Anyone know how to restart the panel manager thing?
[18:42] <mdm> yes Emjay you have 6040400 of swap on that partition (assuming it is the only partition) 16284 is in use, or did you have a question about it?
[18:42] <Maro_> from terminal
[18:42] <geirha> NimoTh: Yes, in the same directory as the destination file
[18:42] <sebsebseb> caraewilton: which type of graphics card?
[18:42] <demanufacture> is there way to use pocketPC device as wifi card?
[18:42] <Sticks> when I try and play a DVD on kaffeine I get this message
[18:42] <Sticks> you will need to install libdvdcss by running from a console: sudo /usr/share/doc/kaffeine/install-css.sh
[18:42] <kazper> how can make own channel? I am new here.
[18:42] <Soopa> hi all
[18:42] <Pici> kazper: Please ask in #freenode
[18:42] <NimoTh> geirha: Then I only wonder why the famous "mv -t ~/.local/share/Trash/files --backup=t" results in twice the disk usage of the the deleted file.
[18:42] <Soopa> if I connect to a Windows share, how do I know where it is mounted?
[18:42] <Emjay> mdm i had a question about transmssion ...and a few othe rprogs that just started doing this
[18:43] <Soopa> the window just says "username on hostname"
[18:43] <slawek> hm i tryed change there but i can't
[18:43] <mdm> kazper: just joing it, if it does not exist it will be created when you join it, It will also me deleted when everyone leaves the channel
[18:43] <NimoTh> geirha: And there is no existing version of the deleted directory
[18:43] <slawek> i can just chose 640x480
[18:43] <slawek> or 320..
[18:43] <Emjay> they take forever to load certain things
[18:43] <Turtal> people im having trouble with ubuntu's tomcat 6 installation
[18:43] <Emjay> Programs like Transmission ... If i Download a .torrent file...and dbl click it to open in transmission or have it open automatically it takes forever ...the program hangs a message pops up saying transmission is already running then after about 10-15 sseconds it loads
[18:44] <Turtal> can anybody help me?
[18:44] <chazco> Hi... will a shared home between Ubuntu 7.10 and 9.04 work okay>
[18:44] <Turtal> i already stated my problem
[18:44] <slawek> so if you can tell me
[18:44] <Maro_> Does anyone know how to reset the panel stuff back to default? I've managed to break mine when I unplugged a second display, restarting doesn't fix it...
[18:44] <slawek> i have 9.04
[18:44] <sebsebseb> chazco: should do yeah,  by the way 7.10 is no longer supported, but  yes it is still one of the best versions of Ubuntu
[18:44] <Turtal> is there an experience programmer willing to help sbdy here?
[18:44] <mdm> Emjay: I dont use torrents except to download iso images for ubu.  Mostly just let it run, it will finish when it finishes
[18:44] <Turtal> s/experience/experienced
[18:44] <chazco> sebsebseb - Yep, 7.10 was the last that worked well for me :) Thanks
[18:44] <slawek> is it a bug?
[18:45] <sebsebseb> !7.10 | chazco
[18:45] <slawek> beocuse i heared that in 9.04 may be troubles like i have
[18:45] <sebsebseb> chazco: I don't like 9.04 much, but 8.10  :)
[18:45] <sysdoc> After enabling compiz the windows decorations on display:0.1 are missing. I'm not able to resize a window or move it without alt+clk as I have no window borders. Anyone else see this?
[18:45] <Pici> !ot
[18:45] <Emjay> mdm,  just about any program that i have to hit a button to load a file.....IE: DeVeDe....i hit the button to load an avi and it takes for ever to load the homefolder
[18:46] <NimoTh> people, would you consider gvfs-trash superior to mv -t ~/.local/share/Trash/files --backup=t ?
[18:46] <chazco> sebsebseb - I know its end-of-lifed and so on, but I may have no choice for a while...
[18:46] <slawek> so what do you think about my problem?
[18:46] <sebsebseb> chazco: ok
[18:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Maro_ To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[18:47] <Maro_> Thanks Jack
[18:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Maro_ To Reset All of Gnome: http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/       In terminal type:         rm -r .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[18:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Maro_ np
[18:47] <koop34> hey guys i am a new ubuntu user and have a couple of issues
[18:47] <koop34> i have a radeon 4800 graphics
[18:47] <koop34> card
[18:47] <maek> Jack_Sparrow: /media was it, thanks
[18:47] <ANTRat> !enter
[18:47] <Jack_Sparrow> maek glad to help
[18:48] <Emjay> mdm even if i try the program Brasero ...and try to load an image it takes forever to load the file list....program repsonds normal just loading files
[18:48] <chazco> Anyone using an evtouch display on 9.04 know how to stop crashes? Also, anyone know how to fix broken DVD playback in 9.04 (bug reports filed)? Also, anyone know how to reliably use WPA-Enterprise with iwl3945 on 9.04? Finally, anyone know if there is a way to fix the tcp window size issue without using tcp_window_scaling?
[18:48] <Jack_Sparrow> maek You can also turn off those icons in gconfig-editor
[18:48] <NimoTh> haha, ubottu is nice. a bot, right?
[18:48] <darlek> !xorg
[18:48] <mdm> Emjay: I would think transmission is settup up whatever you downloaded, so its creating blank file space and requesting memory.  Aside from that get faster memory or simply live with the 10-15 seconds.  Personally I would take the latter.
[18:49] <darlek> !bot | darlek
[18:49] <Emjay> lol the identical computer next to it..... (exactly the same everything) doesnt do this
[18:49] <NimoTh> so anyone got any opinon on gvfs-trash vs. the mv to trash command?
[18:49] <koop34> I have a radeon 4800 hundred graphics card and everytime i play a video or go to display settings my system freezes or flickers  i have installed the most recent drivers from the amd website
[18:49] <mdm> in fact Emjay fast or slow is a matter of opinion
[18:49] <malik__> hi, i m trying to install ypops it needs libssl0.9.7 whereas i have libssl0.9.8 installed on my ubuntu 9.04. what should i do to resolve the problem ?
[18:49] <darlek> !ati | koop34
[18:50] <mdm> Emjay: same hardware, same architecture?
[18:50] <Emjay> yes
[18:50] <Emjay> exactly
[18:50] <Emjay> seems to only be problems with programs pertaining to audio/video
[18:50] <Emjay> no other program seems to have this "lag"
[18:50] <kazper> How can make own channel??
[18:50] <benzss> how do i mount a usb drive asynchronously? the 'mount' tab in the preferences menu seems to ahve disappeared
[18:50] <Edoe> hi, I have a question about networking
[18:51] <mdm> Emjay: I would suggest you go get support on that program rather then asking here then
[18:51] <abchirk> kazper, try to ask this kind of question in #freenode :)
[18:51] <Edoe> can I configure more bridges on one physical NIC?
[18:51] <GuestFD17A3> any one here uses rtorrent?
[18:51] <Emjay> mdm as i stated its any program in audio/video
[18:51] <BrixSat> any one here uses rtorrent?
[18:51] <mdm> Emjay: I can keep guessing if you like :)
[18:51] <Emjay> or anything inwhich i have to load a file from thefiles on my drive
[18:52] <Bilge> Is it possible to determine what package a binary came from?
[18:52] <Emjay> I just want to figure out why it lags when i hit add file or anything in any program
[18:52] <mdm> Bilge: dpkg -S
[18:52] <Slart> Bilge: apt-file
[18:52] <Slart> Bilge: or use !search in here
[18:53] <NimoTh> geirha: OMG, I am quite stupid. The reason my disk size decreased by the file moved to trash is that I removed it from a flash drive. Of course it took so long and need extra space. Sorry, and thanks for your help. :D
[18:53] <Slart> Bilge: or !find... I can never remember which is which
[18:53] <MOPAK> Bilge problem nedir?
[18:53] <john22> hi, I am using a command-line install of ubuntu 9.04 on a 2 GB flash drive, and I have utitlities on it that I use that I need readily portable, and it works great, however I would like a simple desktop aswell for editing with programs like gedit.  When using apt-get to install ubuntu-desktop, the installed size is 1,900 MB and 'gdm' is only 189 MB
[18:53] <john22> what is the difference
[18:53] <Slart> john22: ubuntu-desktop is all the packages in the regular ubuntu distro, default install
[18:54] <Slart> john22: you might want to install xfce or gnome
[18:54] <john22> so jut installing gdm, will give me a desktop, and then I cant install gedit (for example) ?
[18:54] <Bilge> Is it possible to see what packages are installed by default?
[18:54] <rhett> john22: use flucbox, openbox or xfce
[18:54] <Slart> john22: I think so, yes
[18:54] <john22> Slart: thanks :)
[18:54] <Bilge> Also thanks mdm
[18:55] <Edoe> Can I configure multiples bridges over one NIC?
[18:56] <rico2610> Hello
[18:56] <rico2610> Ihr papnasen
[18:56] <Myrtti> !de | rico2610
[18:56] <Bilge> Is it possible to see if a packages is installed by default with my distribution?
[18:56] <koop34> anyone know any good tutorials for using the terminal
[18:56] <rhett> Edoe: yes, I think it's "tun/tap"
[18:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Bilge yes, see !clone
[18:57] <Bilge> !clone
[18:57] <Bilge> I'm not sure how that addresses my question
[18:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Bilge It will make a list of all installed packeage
[18:58] <Jack_Sparrow> packages
[18:58] <Bilge> But does that show which ones I installed and which are default packages
[18:58] <chazco> Anyone using an evtouch display on 9.04 know how to stop crashes? Also, anyone know how to fix broken DVD playback in 9.04 (bug reports filed)? Also, anyone know how to reliably use WPA-Enterprise with iwl3945 on 9.04? Finally, anyone know if there is a way to fix the tcp window size issue without using tcp_window_scaling?
[18:58] <mdm> Bilge: do you know the package name?  dpkg -l | grep <package>, if you do not know the name apt-cache search <whatever>
[18:59] <Bilge> I got the package name with dpkg -S like you said
[18:59] <sup3rs3nior> !automate
[18:59] <mdm> ok Bilge then what do you want to now about the package?
[19:00] <Bilge> If I installed it or if it was already installed with my distribution
[19:00] <Gumby> hi all.  I've been searching but havn't found any great solutions yet.  I'm looking for something to convert video (this time AVI to _something_smaller_).  Anyone in here know of any decent gui tools in Ubuntu to do this?
[19:00] <sup3rs3nior> I think he wants to know if its a default package or not..
[19:00] <Bilge> i.e. if it would be available on a parallel distribution without any additional configuration
[19:00] <ska> Is there a way to setup wireless to get access to any un-encrypted network?
[19:00] <ska> ie, roaming mode w/o encryption?
[19:01] <mdm> Bilge: its more a question of is it installed or not.  I dont think there is a way to see when it was installed, you could take the installer from the cd and see what it lists.  Why do you want to know if it was installed when you installed the OS?
[19:02] <Bilge> I'm interested to know whether it's a process that's generally available to Ubuntu users with their distributions or not
[19:02] <sup3rs3nior> Perhaps there is a "default package" list somewhere?
[19:02] <Bilge> I would also be interested to see a list of packages I have installed over the year
[19:02] <Bilge> Which would ultimately show me the same thing
[19:02] <Flannel> Bilge: dpkg -l
[19:03] <nw-b> is there any secure way to delete my files permanently on ubuntu? Say >10 randomized passes???
[19:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Bilge You can see if http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu      is of any help
[19:03] <Bilge> That also includes things I did not install
[19:03] <Slart> nw-b: try wipe
[19:03] <Slart> !info wipe | nw-b
[19:03] <Bilge> I guess there's no way to tell the difference between a package that admin(s) installed and those which were included already?
[19:03] <Slart> nw-b: that is as secure as it gets from software
[19:03] <nw-b> Slart, how many passes are performed by wipe?
[19:03] <Flannel> Bilge: But, the easiest way to know for sure what's installed by default is to look in the .manifest file of the liveCD: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.manifest
[19:04] <Slart> nw-b: as many as you want
[19:04] <rhett> Bilge: you could do the dpkg -l on a live cd and save it to a file, then do it on your installation and do a diff on the 2 files
[19:04] <erUSUL> !info wipe | nw-b
[19:04] <Flannel> Bilge: There's no difference between those packages.
[19:04] <Turtal> can anybody help me with tomcats configuration please?
[19:04] <sup3rs3nior> Bilge: Probably not without manually looking up and comparing a "default package list" to your list..
[19:04] <Bilge> That is a shame
[19:04] <Slart> nw-b: just look at the program.. it's a small command line utility.. it does everything from files to entire drives..
[19:04] <mdm> Slart: try looking at /var/log/dpkg.log
[19:05] <Slart> mdm: huh?
[19:05] <sup3rs3nior> Bilge: We should write such an appication!
[19:05] <nw-b> I would like to know if there is any tutorial on how to include any script on nautilus to add it on the menu when I use right click
[19:05] <Bilge> mdm: It's 0 bytes
[19:05] <rhett> Bilge: I agree, it sounds usefull
[19:05] <mdm> Slart sorry meant that for Bilge :)
[19:05] <hemanth>  Flex builder on ubuntu with Design View. , where can i get it ?
[19:05] <mdm> Bilge: try /var/log/dpkg.log.1
[19:05] <Flannel> Bilge: "preinstalled" isn't any different than "I installed it".  That's how some of the installers operate (just taking packages and installing them).
[19:05] <Slart> nw-b: you don't need to use a tutorial.. there is a small utility that helps you
[19:05] <Slart> nw-b: nautilus actions .. or something like that
[19:06] <nw-b> Slart, now, is there any way to recover erased files? say after delete them from recycle bin
[19:06] <Slart> !info nautilus-actions | nw-b
[19:06] <Slart> !recover | nw-b
[19:06] <Slart> nw-b: but in short.. yes
[19:06] <unop> Bilge, manually installed packages might include the ones this command returns.   { sudo cat /var/log/dpkg.log; sudo zgrep " installed " /var/log/dpkg.log.*.gz; } | awk '{print $5}'
[19:06] <mdm> yes nw-b its called tar xvf
[19:06] <Bilge> dpkg.log is 0 bytes
[19:07] <Neconide> I'm infected with kaiten
[19:07] <unop> Bilge, correction.   { sudo grep " installed " /var/log/dpkg.log; sudo zgrep " installed " /var/log/dpkg.log.*.gz; } | awk '{print $5}'
[19:07] <nw-b> do you guys know which is the most secure way to encrypt a usb or hdd?
[19:07] <mdm> Bilge it probbly has rotated off, try .1, .2 etc they may even be compressed as unop is suggesting
[19:07] <Neconide> can anyone help me?
[19:07] <Bilge> Yeah they are
[19:07] <Slart> Neconide: the ww2 torpedo? what is it? root kit?
[19:07] <mdm> yes nw-b usb with full featured crypto chip
[19:07] <Neconide> Slart: its an irc bot written in C
[19:08] <fccf> hermanth: look at http://www.markvandenbergh.com/archives/83/installing-flex-builder-on-ubuntu-904/
[19:08] <Neconide> Slart: I found the source, if you can look through it real fast and help me kill it.
[19:08] <nw-b> mdm, what about encrypting a laptop?
[19:08] <Bilge> That does look a lot like the things I installed although it includes a lot of dependancies that I don't recognise
[19:08] <Slart> Neconide: if I could do that I wouldn't be sitting here.. I'd work for some av-company scaring you all and trying to make you buy av-software =)
[19:08] <erUSUL> !encrypt
[19:09] <fccf> !pgp
[19:09] <Flannel> Bilge: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.manifest lists everything a default install has.
[19:09] <Emjay>  pretty much any program that i try hangs when i try to add a file to open it ...like brasero Devede transmission
[19:09] <Neconide> Slart: :(
[19:09] <Flannel> Bilge: (well, for 9.04 Ubuntu on i386)
[19:09] <Neconide> Slart: thanks anyway
[19:09] <Slart> Neconide: I wouldn't trust an infected system.. no matter how much I tried fixing it.. my recommendation.. reinstall
[19:09] <LuciusMare> yeah like, jubber
[19:09] <Dethroned> I don't have Ubuntu fully installed on my computer but it still gives me the dual boot option when I start up.  How do I get rid of it?
[19:09] <mdm> nw-b google encrypted linux root
[19:09] <LuciusMare> gah,wrong window :)
[19:09] <Neconide> Slart: it has usb spread and I have important documents lol
[19:09] <nw-b> anyone knows how well truecrypt works? Is it decent?
[19:10] <fccf> Dethroned:  Reinstall windows bootloader
[19:10] <Bilge> I can't find a manifest for the server
[19:10] <Dethroned> fccf:  I do not have my Windows XP disk
[19:10] <Slart> Neconide: well.. my recommendation still stands.. you do have backups, don't you? please tell me you have backups
[19:10] <Glowball> Compiz Fusion crashes like.. Every day...
[19:10] <Neconide> Slart: no :(
[19:10] <mdm> nw-b dont know but its supported OS list does not include linux
[19:10] <Glowball> Is there somebody who knows some common reasons I could check?
[19:11] <nw-b> I've heard a rumor that google stores IPs and information about searches, anyone knows any search engine that protects privacy?
[19:11] <Detrix> nw-b: check out Axcrypt  at http://www.axantum.com/AxCrypt/
[19:11] <whazilla> Jack_Sparrow: the upgradefromhoary to hardy wend flawlessafter ten fix installs ;)
[19:11] <eseven73> nw-b, it's probably decent for doing stuff like hiding your secret cooking recipe from your family, but if you're planning on hiding plans for bombing a federal building or something, TrueCrypt isn't going to be good enough
[19:11] <rogergr> hallow, i wona now which is the best F1 game
[19:11] <Slart> nw-b: not really an ubuntu problem, right? try #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:12] <Jack_Sparrow> whazilla Glad to hear it
[19:12] <thelaugh1ngmime> Is it possiable to set up a Soft VPN that will work on windows systems using ubuntu 9.04? if so what do i need to install to get it going?
[19:12] <whazilla> :)
[19:12] <whazilla> ty
[19:12] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[19:12] <fccf> Dethroned:  Download windows recovery environment to reinstall windows bootloader
[19:12] <kobayashie> :(
[19:12] <Slart> eseven73, nw-b: when it comes to encryption.. xkcd got it right.. http://xkcd.com/538/
[19:13]  * Slart goes to sit in the !ot corner
[19:13]  * eseven73 follows Slart to the corner
[19:13] <TowTruck> Anyone able to help with a quick problem im having Installing Ubuntu on a PC i got?
[19:13] <kobayashie> slart?????
[19:13] <Neconide> Can anyone help me remove this? http://pastebin.com/m7ec4cdc6
[19:13] <Slart> kobayashie: yes?
[19:13] <fccf> !ask | TowTruck
[19:14] <kobayashie> what do you from????
[19:14] <kobayashie> slart
[19:14] <phoenixz> TowTruck: as in, what is your problem..
[19:14] <TowTruck> Is there anyway im able to install Ubuntu onto a HD in one PC, and just swap it into the Other PC.. the other PC has no function CD ROM drive, and Windows took a dump
[19:14] <Slart> kobayashie: this isn't really a social channel.. do you have an ubuntu question?
[19:15] <fccf> TowTruck: short answer ... YES
[19:15] <nw-b> Slart, that was funnuy
[19:15] <Jack_Sparrow> TowTruck yes, you can do that.
[19:15] <rogergr> Anyone who play racing games?
[19:15] <nw-b> Slart, that was funny
[19:15] <Slart> TowTruck: yes..if they use the same architecture.. ie x86
[19:15] <Bilge> The dpkg.logs also only show packages that _were_ installed, but are not necessarily still installed now
[19:15] <TowTruck> Both are in the intel family.. Pentium and Celleron
[19:15] <staspika> Hi, I've just upgraded to Ubuntu 9.04, and see that graphics now suck like hell. I have Intel graphic chipset, and have heard that it can be the reason. Is there anything I can do, or do I not have any other option than to try to downgrade back to 8.10?
[19:16] <Bilge> It would be really nice if there was a file that kept track of packages that have been expressly installed by request
[19:16] <fccf> TowTruck that should not have a prob
[19:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !intel
[19:16] <erUSUL> Neconide: what exatly you need help about ?
[19:16] <TowTruck> Thanks
[19:16] <billybigrigger> is 180.44 still the latest nvidia driver?
[19:16] <itshorty> hello! uptime and w shows "0 users" but i am logged in with a nonsystem accout? anybody an answer to this strange behavior?
[19:16] <koop34>  I have a radeon 4800 hundred graphics card and everytime i play a video or go to display settings my system freezes or flickers  i have installed the most recent drivers from the amd website  I am using ubunto 9.04
[19:16] <nw-b> eseven73, what would you suggest me?
[19:16] <gh0st> can anyone point me to a link or a channel that would discuss how to "set up" my current voip provider with ekiga?
[19:16] <Neconide> erUSUL: Removing it.
[19:16] <caraewilton> Hi, wondering if anyone can hep me. I have installed ubuntu on an old desktop (previously ran windows xp). The install goes fine, but when I restart the computer just hangs at the startup screen.  Just an orange screen, nothing more happens.  Anyone had this problem?
[19:17] <kobayashie> no.... but i like ubuntu
[19:17] <Neconide> erUSUL: My 'friend' sent me it and said there was a suprise :\ yupp, there definitely was.
[19:17] <Slart> billybigrigger: yes
[19:17] <yrahan> Hello every body, I'm a total newbie in both english and linux :) I've installed ubuntu jaunty jackalope (9.04) in dual boot with windows XP, and sound never worked under linux. I've gone trough many tutorials and wikis, and tried many things... but nothing worked :( I fined a script that make all my carateristics on a web site to make it easier :) http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=d616c6ebc732f9772bb87513ca440f315892310b can someone 
[19:17] <eseven73> nw-b, I think someone suggested http://xkcd.com/538/
[19:17] <erUSUL> Neconide: :1
[19:17] <brandonban6> G_A_C, I got things going!! Thanks for the info
[19:17] <G_A_C> no problem brandonban6, what was the issue in the end?
[19:17] <nw-b> eseven73, that was a comic
[19:18] <kobayashie> 2 week bye windows bill
[19:18] <erUSUL> Neconide: #define FAKENAME "-bash"  // What you want this to hide as
[19:18] <eseven73> :/
[19:18] <kobayashie> 2 week i like ubuntu
[19:18] <fccf> yrahan: what is your native language??
[19:18] <erUSUL> Neconide: search for a binary named -bash ??
[19:18] <billybigrigger> Slart::: is there anyway to run the new 180.51 driver through restricted drivers? or do i have to wait until it comes down through ubuntu's updates?
[19:18] <eseven73> I don't know then sorry nw-b  :(
[19:18] <gh0st> can anyone point me to a link or a channel that would discuss how to "set up" my current voip provider with ekiga?
[19:18] <Slart> billybigrigger: I don't think you can add it to the restricted drivers thingy yourself.. you'll have to wait
[19:18] <erUSUL> Neconide: sudo update-db && locate -bash
[19:18] <kobayashie> 2 week for me.
[19:19] <LogicFan> is it always preferable to install software via ubuntu's package manager?  even for things like firefox or thunderbird extensions?
[19:19] <eseven73> nw-b, for simple encryption TrueCrypt should be enough
[19:19] <brandonban6> G_A_C, I talked to you about Hamachi, I needed to enable IP Tunneling used a modprobe tun command and was home free from there.
[19:19] <koop34> Has anyone had issues with ATI Radeon card in 9.04 Jaunty
[19:19] <Neconide> erUSUL: Okay
[19:19] <Neconide> erUSUL: hold on
[19:19] <yrahan> fccf: I understand basic english :), but, on ubuntu-fr (frensh ) no one seems to see the solution
[19:19] <G_A_C> brandonban6, I thought one of the installation steps was "sudo tuncfg", that seemed to fix it for me
[19:19] <nw-b> eseven73, the thing is that I need really strong encryption software. I will be handling sensitive research information
[19:19] <G_A_C> brandonban6, good that you got it fixed though! :)
[19:19] <Slart> LogicFan: personally I install firefox using the repos.. but plugins using firefox's own system
[19:19] <Slart> LogicFan: same thing with thunderbird
[19:19] <LogicFan> nw-b, truecrypt is the choice for you
[19:19] <rhett> koop34 yes, my 2100 series does not like the newest AMD drivers
[19:19] <Neconide> erUSUL: sudo: update-db: command not found
[19:19] <Neconide> :S
[19:20] <erUSUL> Neconide: wont work very well the -bash name complicates things a lot
[19:20] <brandonban6> G_A_C, that is step, who knows, I'm not very network saavy, I followed forum after forum, who knows what I messed up in the meantime :)
[19:20] <fccf> yrahan: you may want to try over in #alsa ... also look at the alsa compatibility chart - google-alsa compatibility to see if your hardware is supported
[19:20] <erUSUL> Neconide: sudo updatedb && locate bash
[19:20] <gh0st> can anyone point me to a link or a channel that would discuss how to "set up" my current voip provider with ekiga?
[19:20] <Slart> nw-b: truecrypt.. but either you'll have to ask your boss what software is acceptable.. or if you are the boss you should go read up on these thnigs and not listen to advice from weird people you ran into on IRC
[19:20] <koop34> rhett my does your system freeze or when playing video or going to display options
[19:20] <nszeek> Anyone can gimme a hand on how to find the /dev/ path to a usb device from the lsusb output ?
[19:21] <Neconide> erUSUL: nothing found? what the hell
[19:21] <erUSUL> nszeek: you can not
[19:21] <she_dyed> koop34 er just make sure to turn off compiz and the screensaver is what my friend did
[19:21] <LogicFan> Slart, thanks, i'm curious about the enigmail extension for thunderbird.  enigmail docs say to use distro-specific version of enigmail, which i imagine means ubuntu repos? but i'm not finding much help on google
[19:21] <Neconide> erUSUL: lol something tells me I'm screwed. Or that it executes in the memory.
[19:21] <nszeek> erUSUL: Any way I can find which /dev/ path a usb device is connected to then ?
[19:21] <nw-b> Slart, thank you for your advice, I really appreciate it.
[19:21] <Slart> LogicFan: ahh.. that one I installed using the repos.. sorry..., forgot about that one
[19:21] <yrahan> fccf:  thank U, I'll try #alsa
[19:21] <Slart> nw-b: you're welcome
[19:22] <kazper> :/
[19:22] <fccf> gh0st: depending on your provider, ekiga uses the sip or h.263 or x.263 protocalls and each has a slightly different setup... what is your provider
[19:22] <Bram_P> can someone tell me the command to unpack and install .tar.gz archives? I forgot it for the moment....
[19:23] <LogicFan> Slart, do you know why that specific extension deserves its own package by the ubuntu mozilla team?  why can't you just install via thunderbird's add-on interface and download the .xpi like any firefox extension?
[19:23] <yrahan> fccf: french
[19:23] <erUSUL> nszeek: look "dmesg" when you plug the device
[19:23] <fccf> yrahan: I got that
[19:23] <Slart> LogicFan: I'm not sure.. could be that it uses pgp or some other software from the os
[19:24] <LogicFan> yeah, uses gnupg
[19:24] <nszeek> erUSUL: and from the dmesg output I can get a /dev/ path ?
[19:24] <erUSUL> nszeek: on most cases yes
[19:24] <nszeek> erUSUL: just a sec
[19:24] <nszeek> erUSUL: Thanks
[19:24] <nszeek> erUSUL: wrong message =P ... sorry ... I meant Thanks
[19:24] <overshard> Does anyone know how to default all new apps going through pulseaudio to a certain device? I set a dac as my default but some apps are still going through my onboard (this is in pavucontrol)
[19:25] <LuciusMare> hey,can i control windows machine remotely on linux trough ssl? :)
[19:25] <gh0st> fccf, my provider is "Kelcom" or otherwize known as RevolutionIP
[19:25] <Slart> overshard: isn't there a default somewhere? pulseaudio server settings?
[19:26] <flintwingel> !vnc | LuciusMare
[19:26] <legend2440> !paste
[19:26] <overshard> Slart: I thought I did set this dac as default but apparently not, do you know where the correct default is to be set?
[19:26] <Soopa> hi all, sorry to ask this again, but I didn't see if anyone replied... in Nautilus, if I do something like, "smb://user@host/folder/", does that location get mounted somewhere?
[19:26] <Doug_D> hi everybody
[19:27] <fccf> gh0st: In the future I would reccommend using a voip provider that has some tech-support visible on their site... I can't find a howto for them, sorry dude... get skype - it just works
[19:27] <mdm> Soopa no, its just exists in the browser.  The windows box will see the access though
[19:28] <Doug_D> got a question for you savvy ubuntu fellas... what would be a reason for alsa to think it's working (i.e. report everything is working and basically act like a normal system) but there be no sound? (all simple things like connections and such aside)
[19:28] <gh0st> lol, thanks
[19:28] <Soopa> mdm: okay, then how can I mount a Windows share?
[19:28] <Slart> overshard: hmm.. not really.. I looked around the preferences, managers, applets etc that I have.. can't really find anything..
[19:28] <koop34> I want to fresh install the graphics drivers on my system does anyone know how to uninstall the drivers
[19:28] <Soopa> mdm: like, if I want it to show up on my desktop every time i log in
[19:29] <mdm> Soopa: mount -t cifs -o username=user,password=pass \\server\share /mount/point
[19:29] <overshard> Slart: yeah... I set pulseaudio as my default in gnome-sound-properties and then my dac the default in pavucontrol and that seems like it should work but it isn't
[19:29] <erUSUL> Neconide: maybe calmav can remove it ?
[19:29] <c0mp13371331337> Soopa: Yes, it does, check in /home/<user>/.gvfs
[19:29] <Slart> overshard: oh.. wait.. go to the "output devices" tab.. select the one you want to be default.. click the little button with the down arrow and check "Default"..
[19:29] <Neconide> erUSUL: calmav?
[19:29] <erUSUL> !info clamav
[19:29] <overshard> Slart: I did do that
[19:29] <Slart> overshard: that's what I did.. it has worked alright for me so far
[19:29] <overshard> Slart: it doesn't seem to be working though
[19:29] <Neconide> erUSUL: Ah
[19:30] <billybigrigger> whats the best way to upgrade my gfx driver? im currently using ubuntu restricted 180.44 drivers, but i want the latest .51 drivers, is there a driver howto?
[19:30] <Soopa> mdm and c0mp13371331337, thanks!!
[19:30] <sup3rs3nior> I just uploaded a new directory on my Ubuntu Server but when I try to access it via http, it gives me 403 forbidden. When I check the permission, it says world has read permission...
[19:30] <c0mp13371331337> Soopa: NP
[19:30] <mdm> Soopa: sorry change the backslashes \ to slashes /.  Its been a while since I had a windows system to mount drives from :)
[19:31] <sup3rs3nior> Why would it say forbidden if world has read permission?
[19:31] <flintwingel> Soopa: if you want the file system mounted automatically when you boot put a line like this "//server/share /mnt     cifs user=user,password=password" in /etc/fstab
[19:32] <chun2> Anyone help? I've shrunk my windows partition, I'd now like to increase the size of my ubuntu partition, so I booted from the live disc and ran gparted - this is the window I get - http://bluesuncorp.co.uk/files/screenshot-dev-sda-gparted.jpg - but for some reason it won't let me extend sda5 into the free space on the left
[19:32] <scunizi> sup3rs3nior: have you tried with https?
[19:32] <overshard> yeah, after i go through and migrate a stream to my dac in pavucontrol it stays there if i reboot, close the app etc, the problem is i have to manually move it to begin with and i want all new apps to go through my dac as the default...
[19:32] <sup3rs3nior> I shouldnt need https, should I?
[19:32] <erUSUL> Neconide: i found how to locate -bash... do « locate -- -bash »
[19:32] <Neconide> erUSUL: thanks
[19:33] <sup3rs3nior> Https is a no-go... =(
[19:33] <nszeek> erUSUL: Hey ... can you help me "translate" the dmesg output ? ... only difference between the output when the device is connected and when the device is not connected is
[19:33] <nszeek> erUSUL: > [ 1030.121345] usb 2-4: USB disconnect, address 8
[19:33] <mdm> chun2 you can extend a file system (sometimes) by adding to the END of it, not the beginning
[19:33] <Neconide> erUSUL: only result /etc/profile.d/gvfs-bash-completion.sh
[19:33] <chun2> mdm: I should be able to move it though, right? and gparted won't let me do that
[19:33] <scunizi> erUSUL: also whereis bash will give different results
[19:34] <erUSUL> nszeek: do "tail -f /var/log/messages" on a terminal then plug the device and whatch the new info displayed
[19:34] <mdm> chun2: ugly hack? create another partition, cpio from one to the other, reboot, delete the one at the end, then extend it
[19:34] <nszeek>  erUSUL: Ok ... will do
[19:34] <scunizi> Neconide: also try ... whereis bash .. for different results
[19:34] <erUSUL> scunizi: we are dealing with troyan that uses -bash to hide itself
[19:34] <billybigrigger> !nvidia
[19:35] <Icemask> I need help with the installation
[19:35] <erUSUL> scunizi: maybe you can help
[19:35] <Icemask> Of Ubuntu
[19:35] <cowgarden> hiro, gconf-editor lets me hide the dektop idons (/apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop), can I assign a hotkey for that toggle (or is there a command I could assign?)
[19:35] <koop34> i have hd audio intergrated on my motherboard the sound works on in ubuntu but it is very low i have bose speakers when i boot into windows it goes back normal volume. Can anybody help me
[19:35] <cowgarden> *icons, not idons
[19:35] <scunizi> erUSUL: ok.. not sure what troyan is.. and I've come in late in the conversation.. what's up?
[19:35] <erUSUL> scunizi: Neconide was fooled by a "friend" into running this  http://pastebin.com/m7ec4cdc6
[19:35] <KDesk> hi
[19:35] <ubuntu_> hiya, does anyone know what the floppy disk device would be called in ubuntu?
[19:36] <erUSUL> scunizi: compile and run
[19:36] <erUSUL> ubuntu_: /dev/fd0
[19:36] <Icemask> Can anybody help me with this error I'm getting while I'm installing Ubuntu itself?
[19:36] <ubuntu_> i have an fd but no fd0
[19:36] <ubuntu_> whats up wit dat?
[19:36] <scunizi> erUSUL: and what is it doing as opposed to what it actually does?
[19:36] <erUSUL> ubuntu_: sudo modprobe floppy
[19:36] <scunizi> Neconide: nice friend :(
[19:36] <ubuntu_> sudo modprobe floppy
[19:36] <Icemask> I keep getting Errno 13: Permission denied
[19:36] <ubuntu_> lol
[19:37] <erUSUL> scunizi: well it is botnet client and looks like he disguised itsdelf as -bash so i was trying to help Neconide find and delete it
[19:37] <Icemask> Anybody?
[19:37] <ubuntu_> it returned nothing
[19:37] <mdm> erUSUL: DO NOT compile or run that
[19:37] <erUSUL> ubuntu_: check again if there is /dev/fd0
[19:37] <sup3rs3nior> Ok, you know how you get permissions when you type "ls -l"? when I did that for a dir i just created, it printed "?????????" for the permisions.........
[19:38] <erUSUL> mdm: i know... helping someone wha has
[19:38] <erUSUL> mdm: i know... helping someone who has
[19:38] <ikonia> erUSUL: if someone has been exploited a full re-install is the only real option
[19:38] <Neconide> erUSUL: One of my friends who is a whitehat security researcher is helping me at the moment
[19:38] <Icemask> ...Anyone?
[19:38] <ikonia> Icemask: anyone what ?
[19:38] <LuciusMare> can i WakeOnLan computer that has not public ip?
[19:38] <scunizi> erUSUL: Neconide ok.. I'll look at the code but that's not really my thing.. The more eyes on it the better for figuring out where it is.
[19:38] <Icemask> I need help with installing Ubuntu itself
[19:38] <ikonia> LuciusMare: if you are on the same private network - sure
[19:39] <G_A_C> LuciusMare, only from a computer on the same LAN (I believe)
[19:39] <mdm> erUSUL: from what you pasted its creatigng a file -bash, delete that, but I would also check for other intrusion as well
[19:39] <KDesk> I want to test PulseAudio 0.9.15 in Jaunty. But I have read that Flash or Skype brakes. Has any one tested this?
[19:39] <Icemask> I keep getting Errno 13: Permission denied
[19:39] <w0ls0n> christ
[19:39] <LuciusMare> how thenM
[19:39] <LuciusMare> *how then?
[19:39] <ikonia> Icemask: doing what ?
[19:39] <Icemask> Installing Ubuntu
[19:39] <Neconide> scunizi: yeah
[19:39] <ikonia> Icemask: at what point do you get error 13 ?
[19:39] <Icemask> From Windows
[19:39] <erUSUL> ikonia: well looking at the code it does not seem very clever seems like it only hides inteself as "-bash" binary
[19:39] <G_A_C> LuciusMare, it's not related to IPs, as when "off" your computer has none; you need to be able to get a broadcast packet to the target computer, which basically means being on the same broadcast domain (behind the same router)
[19:39] <sup3rs3nior> What would cause linux to show "?????????" for permissions on a file?
[19:39] <Icemask> I double click Wubi.exe
[19:39] <erUSUL> ikonia: finding it and removing maybe enough
[19:39] <Icemask> It thinks for a bit
[19:39] <Icemask> then it gives me the error
[19:39] <w0ls0n> I have VMWare installed on my box and whenever it does an update to the system, it corrupts files in rm /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/misc/ ... how can I avoid this problem in the future?
[19:39] <ikonia> erUSUL: "seem" very clever is the key, anyone exploted = full re-install
[19:40] <ikonia> Icemask: sorry I can't support wubi
[19:40] <Pici> Icemask: You may not be an Administrator on your computer.
[19:40] <Starcraftmazter> Does anyone know if ssh supports unicode?
[19:40] <Pici> Starcraftmazter: yes
[19:40] <G_A_C> Icemask, are you running Vista? Maybe it's an admin rights problem
[19:40] <Icemask> I am though
[19:40] <Icemask> Vista
[19:40] <erUSUL> ikonia: not may problem anyway and Neconide has left already
[19:40] <mohan_> hi..
[19:40] <G_A_C> Icemask, try right clicking wubi and selecting "run as admin"
[19:40] <coz_> ubuntu_,  is it showing up in fstab?  sudo gedit  /etc/fstab
[19:40] <scunizi> Neconide: when did you compile and install?  Today?
[19:40] <Icemask> I am admin, cuz I'm the only user of this computer
[19:40] <mohan_> does anybody know RT kernel repository
[19:40] <mdm> erUSUL: rm -- -bash
[19:40] <Icemask> Oh
[19:40] <Icemask> Okay
[19:40] <Flannel> mohan_: -rt is in the regular repositories
[19:40] <fccf> Starcraftmazter: ssh is encrypted ... unicode isn't
[19:40] <G_A_C> Icemask, being admin doesn't automatically make you run things as admin out of the box on Vista, read up on UAC
[19:41] <Emjay> Hey to all that tried to help me Thankyou so very much
[19:41] <mohan_> Flannel no i meant Realtime Kernel
[19:41] <Icemask> Oh
[19:41] <Neconide> scunizi: I didnt compile it, he sent me the compiled file
[19:41] <Emjay> I figured out my prob and its rather retarded
[19:41] <Icemask> Sorry
[19:41] <ubuntu_> coz: nah fstab is almost bare, because i am running a live cd~
[19:41] <erUSUL> mdm: i did not run that code Neconide was the one with the problem
[19:41] <LuciusMare> wait,is PXE boot from lan same as wakeonlan?
[19:41] <Emjay> Indexing was off
[19:41] <G_A_C> LuciusMare, no
[19:41] <Flannel> mohan_: right.  linux-rt is the package for the realtime kernel, it's in the regular repositories.
[19:41] <erUSUL> LuciusMare: nope
[19:41] <coz_> ubuntu_, it is usually  /media/floppy0
[19:41] <LuciusMare> aw
[19:41] <mdm> erUSUL: then have him do it
[19:41] <scunizi> Neconide: when did you install it? today?
[19:41] <legend2440> !paste > me
[19:42] <mohan_> Flannel: not the buggy one which is included in Ubuntustudio.. I wan't another one for my 64bit..
[19:42] <fccf> LuciusMare:  PXE allows booting the entire operating system over a network with no harddrive installed on the PXE'd computer
[19:42] <mdm> LuciusMare: no, they are two different, complimentary services
[19:42] <erUSUL> mdm: he left the channel. and was what i was doing when everybody jumped in ;P
[19:42] <LuciusMare> oh
[19:42] <Starcraftmazter> Pici: Is there any reason why unicode characters would be coming up as questionmarks over ssh, or does that imply that the remote machine does not support unicode?
[19:42] <mohan_> Flannel: that kernel freezes my computer.. has some issues regarding ACPI
[19:42] <w0ls0n> I have VMWare installed on my box and whenever it does an update to the system, it corrupts files in rm /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/misc/ ... how can I avoid this problem in the future?
[19:42] <nick2paris>  /msg NickServ identify 1286432
[19:42] <LuciusMare> wait
[19:42] <LuciusMare> so
[19:42] <Flannel> nick2paris: You'll want to change that password
[19:42] <zortec> I'm using irssi to talk to you guys.  I have no desktop but Ubuntu is installed.
[19:42] <LuciusMare> is there any way that i could boot over lan sending an .iso to it?
[19:43] <Pici> Starcraftmazter: It could be that the terminal you are using doesn't support unicode properly, or the font you have does not have those characters.
[19:43] <fccf> w0ls0n:  lock changes on VMWare.. get it working and lock it
[19:43] <mdm> LuciusMare: WOL is a spacial packet that cases a computer to resume from suspend, it is dependant on WOL hardware.  PXE is a boot loader to load in a kernel for boot from net, it requires a boot bios chip on the nic
[19:43] <Flannel> Starcraftmazter: Are you using screen? Also, make sure your current terminal has unicode glyphs and is in unicode mode
[19:43] <G_A_C> LuciusMare, I'm not sure...it may be doable with PXELinux and the "memdisk" facility
[19:43] <scunizi> Neconide: ?? the reason I ask when you installed it is you can search the system for "new" files as of "today"  .. that might give you the answer you're looking for.
[19:43] <w0ls0n> lock it how?
[19:43] <w0ls0n> oh
[19:43] <Icemask> It's still giving me Permission Denied
[19:44] <Starcraftmazter> FloodBot3: picca: The characters in question appear in a java application I have written, they show up fine locally
[19:44] <mohan_> Flannel: any idea ?
[19:44] <scunizi> Neconide: also was it compiled as a .deb file?
[19:44] <G_A_C> I'm out of ideas then Icemask, I haven't any experience with Wubi unfortunately
[19:44] <mdm> LuciusMare: seting up PXE requires a DHCP and TFTP server, it also requires you setup the client to boot from net
[19:44] <nszeek>  erUSUL: Thanks ... it worked
[19:44] <LuciusMare> god
[19:44] <LuciusMare> hm
[19:44] <LuciusMare> so
[19:44] <Icemask> And If I boot from the disc, directly, It freezes and crashes and the Caps Lock light starts blinking
[19:44] <zortec> The way I partitioned the drive was 10GB - /home, 3GB - swap, and 30GB - /
[19:44] <erUSUL> nszeek: no problem
[19:44] <mdm> LuciusMare: sorry technically a BOOTP server, not DHCP
[19:44] <Flannel> mohan_: No, I know of no third party repositories with another realtime kernel.  That doesn't mean they don't exist though.
[19:45] <mohan_> Flannel: oh.. ok..
[19:45] <zortec> !mdm I took your suggestion on the swap.
[19:45] <zortec> #mdm I took your suggestion on the swap.
[19:45] <mohan_> Flannel: the version 2.6.28-3-rt is troublesome..
[19:45] <Icemask> It's still giving me Permission Denied
[19:45] <Icemask> Can anyone help?
[19:45] <sup3rs3nior> How do I make this-->http://68.47.64.161/jr/<-- not forbidden?
[19:45] <G_A_C> @mdm, I think DHCP is correct, BOOTP was something different not involving TFTP...been a while since I looked at it though
[19:46] <plontaj> connect irc.freenode.net
[19:46] <fccf> zortec: the correct way to put the name is how I just did with you ... type the first few letters of the name then push TAB
[19:46] <hackndoes> Hi guys and gals, i have a weird problem. i installed ubuntu 9.04 on a laptop and had no wifi, after reading i succeeded in making it work (loaded some modules and installed wicd)
[19:46] <coz_> Icemask,  if no one here can help  you might want to try  #linux channel
[19:46] <sbasuita> Icemask, the kernel blinks the caps lock key as a sign that it has crashed (kernel panic)
[19:46] <zortec> fccf: Thanks, I got it now :)
[19:46] <sup3rs3nior> oh hey nackndoes.. you need ndiswrapper..
[19:46] <Icemask> Okay
[19:46] <zortec> For an irc app, irssi is nice
[19:46] <sup3rs3nior> her
[19:46] <sup3rs3nior> er
[19:46] <KDesk> Has anyone experience with PulseAudio 0.9.15?
[19:47] <sup3rs3nior> hackndoes: you need ndiswrapper..
[19:47] <mdm> G_A_C: I *think* its just the dhcp server serving bootp requests, but either way it requires setup.
[19:47] <hackndoes> the problem is, that if i disconnect from a created connection i can't reconnect. wicd is stuck on trying to obtain an ip address. only restarting the machine allows me to reconnect
[19:47] <zortec> Any thoughts on how I split up the drive?  10gb/home, 3gb/swap, and 30gb/root
[19:47] <Gabrys> 30gb/home 10gb/root
[19:47] <zortec> I decided to make a partition for /home
[19:47] <david__> hola
[19:47] <erUSUL> zortec: swap home and root
[19:47] <LuciusMare> I have got a very old notebook (travelmate 242xc) with installed windows screwed up.I wanted to reinstall but i want linux on it,and i like sudo apt-get and so,features from ubuntu.So i decided to install ubuntu on it,with some windows manager on it.It looks like i am going to install fluxbox here,and because i dont like the right click menu,i would like some icon manager.And there are my questions:
[19:47] <LuciusMare> 1) What Window manager and icon manager to use?
[19:47] <LuciusMare> 2)How can i install without gnome or so,only with things i want?
[19:47] <hackndoes> sup3rs3nior, saw that a few times on the net while investigating my problem. but why is that? i succeeded making it work without
[19:48] <david__> hola
[19:48] <sup3rs3nior> hackndoes: well if you got it to work then you are ahead of me!
[19:48] <zortec> erUSUL: What about swap home and root?
[19:48] <Gabrys> LuciusMare: I would install icewm if it's still in the repository
[19:48] <erUSUL> zortec: i mean swap the sizes of home and root 10GiB for root 30 GiB for home
[19:48] <hackndoes> sup3rs3nior, hee, but still i have the problem i mentioned. need any help?
[19:49] <zortec> erUSUL: Why so much space for a /home dir?
[19:49] <LuciusMare> Gabrys: and so,how?
[19:49] <sup3rs3nior> hackndoes: so it hangs while you try to connect?
[19:49] <zortec> erUSUL: You keep most of the files in root I thought
[19:49] <scunizi> zortec: that's where all your personal data goes
[19:49] <erUSUL> zortec: it is where the big files are ging to end up Music movies stuff like that
[19:49] <hackndoes> yes, but only if i disconnected from the network or moved to another network .etc
[19:49] <Neconide> scunizi: It's a C file
[19:49] <Gabrys> LuciusMare: aptitude install icewm
[19:49] <hackndoes> sup3rs3nior, yes, but only if i disconnected from the network or moved to another network .etc
[19:50] <zortec> scunizi, erUSUL: So you don't want those in root at all?
[19:50] <sup3rs3nior> but your router recognizes the wireless card on your laptop?
[19:50] <mimor> hello all
[19:50] <LuciusMare> Gabrys: but how can i install it?
[19:50] <LuciusMare> i mean,i have to install the whole system
[19:50] <erUSUL> zortec: my root (and keep in mind i have latex and other software installed) /dev/sda3              15G  4,4G  9,5G  32% /
[19:50] <mimor> I'm looking for an app on ubuntu or online to manage my books
[19:50] <mdm> LuciusMare: fluxbox is a very minimal (read not allot of features, and small footprint) window manager. I love it myself mostly because its setup and menu files can be edited with vi.  But that is mostly my opinion.
[19:50] <fccf> hackndoes: have you disabled wireless then re-enabled it -
[19:50] <hackndoes> fccf, nope
[19:50] <Gabrys> LuciusMare: get normal ubuntu or ubuntu lite if you don't have big diskspace and on top of it install icewm
[19:50] <zortec> erUSUL: How can I resize them now? The only app I installed was irssi
[19:50] <LuciusMare> I can not install normal ubuntu on it!
[19:51] <LuciusMare> it is too weak!
[19:51] <fccf> hackndoes: that could be your fix
[19:51] <hackndoes> how do i go about doing that? though it doesn't seem like much of a permanent solution
[19:51] <scunizi> Neconide: k.. it should have an install time/date stamp. If you remember what day it was installed you could search the system for all files created on that day.  That should narrow it down and allow you to locate it.
[19:51] <LuciusMare> so how can i install it?
[19:51] <erUSUL> zortec: depends on the layout of the paritions on the disk
[19:51] <hackndoes> sup3rs3nior, what do you mean?
[19:51] <hackndoes> sup3rs3nior, it does i guess cause after a restart there is no problem
[19:51] <zortec> erUSUL: I'm not familiar with linux commands too well, how can I see my partitions? Keep in mind I don't have a desktop yet
[19:51] <Neconide> scunizi: Theyre hidden files
[19:51] <flintwingel> LuciusMare: have a look at CrunchBang Linux - based on ubuntu but lightweight, uses the OPenBox window manager
[19:51] <zortec> ls
[19:51] <fccf> hackndoes: it is right click on the network Icon in gnome\
[19:51] <erUSUL> zortec: sudo fdisk -l
[19:51] <mdm> zortec: fdisk -l
[19:52] <Neconide> scunizi: my friend decompiled it, and it installs itself in /bin /usr/bin /sbin etc
[19:52] <LuciusMare> I just want to know,how to install ubuntu only with things i want
[19:52] <LuciusMare> without gnome,with fluxbox
[19:52] <hackndoes> fccf, i am not using network-manager but wicd as explained, how is it done there?
[19:52] <darkpixel> hi there, im looking for a php-based webmail but i need the users to logging in without a email account, i need to have users, like user1, pass user1, and once logged in they would access to a preconfigured email account. Is there something like this out there?
[19:52] <zortec> Can I open another window and stay in irssi or quit?
[19:52] <mdm> LuciusMare: install the server edition, then chose which pacakges you want after with apt-get
[19:52] <unop> LuciusMare, use the minimal install CD to install the base .. then install fluxbox, xorg, etc
[19:52] <LuciusMare> hm
[19:53] <scunizi> Neconide: with a name of -bash ?? or <something-bash> ?
[19:53] <fccf> hackndoes: can't help with wicd
[19:53] <LuciusMare> unop: minimal cd?
[19:53] <hackndoes> sup3rs3nior, i don't know what you mean in your question can you explain your self please?'
[19:53] <LuciusMare> mdm: will try
[19:53] <zortec> I figured it out, just switched to tty2
[19:53] <unop> !minimal | LuciusMare
[19:53] <LuciusMare> !alternate CD > LuciusMare
[19:53] <hackndoes> fccf, the reason i am using wicd is that nm didn't even see the networks around me, or at list didn't list them not to mention connect to them
[19:53] <unop> LuciusMare, /query ubottu
[19:54] <Neconide> scunizi: 'testing'
[19:54] <Flannel> LuciusMare: No need to use the minimal CD, grab the alternate CD.  Then you won't absolutely have to have the internet to install.
[19:54] <hackndoes> fccf, i could not care less which one i use. is nm recommended by you?
[19:54] <Neconide> rm: cannot remove `/bin/testing': No such file or directory
[19:54] <Neconide> so yeah
[19:54] <Neconide> theyre hidden
[19:54] <fccf> hackndoes: need more info ... please pastebin your lspci output
[19:55] <hackndoes> fccf, sec
[19:55] <Flannel> Neconide: what does 'which testing' give you?
[19:55] <Neconide> Flannel: Nothing
[19:55] <erUSUL> Neconide: also seems to edit /etc/rc.local to launch itself on boot. check the file contents
[19:56] <thelaugh1ngmime> my wrok blocks most of the ports so its hard to ssh . i was using 443 for a while and not it seems to have blocked it. any ideas on what port i can try? looks like the man is cracking down on me
[19:56] <scunizi> Neconide: ok.. if they are hidden then you can gksudo nautilus .. once the window is open ctrl+h to reveal hidden directories/files (they have a . or period in front of the name).. go to the directories you mentioned and look again.
[19:56] <hackndoes> fccf, http://pastebin.com/m23d940f3
[19:56] <dondon> my xorg.conf file is basically empty, but i would like to see what settings ubuntu has set by default
[19:56] <dondon> how can i do that?
[19:56] <hackndoes> fccf, ooops not the correct one
[19:56] <hackndoes> sec
[19:56] <scunizi> Neconide: caution though.. gksudo nautilus give nautilus root privilidges and can delete ANYTHING on your system.. take care
[19:56] <zortec> /dev/sda1 - NTFS (102GB) - /dev/sda2 - Linux (29GB) - /dev/sda3 - Linux swap (2.9/3GB) - /dev/sda4 - Linux (9GB)
[19:57] <zortec> That is the disk layout in fdisk
[19:57] <zortec> I hope that I'm reading that correctly
[19:57] <Neconide> scunizi: Ok
[19:57] <hackndoes> fccf, daniella is also me, i am helping her
[19:57] <hackndoes> sending from her
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Neconide Please use that command with caution.  it is NOT forgiving
[19:57] <scunizi> Jack_Sparrow: good to remind him.. even though I already did
[19:58] <daniella_> fccf, http://pastebin.com/mfa06d1e
[19:58] <fccf> hackndoes: are you using a usb wireless card - I don't see it listed on your lspci
[19:58] <zortec> So I should switch the root (/) and /home?
[19:58] <Neconide> scunizi: but that's if im gui
[19:58] <Neconide> scunizi: im root from cli
[19:58] <hackndoes> fccf, i corrected my self you weren't looking in the right one. i mistakenly sent you the wrong one. look at what i just sent
[19:59] <scunizi> Neconide: do you have gui at all?
[19:59] <hackndoes> fccf, the one with the broadcom...
[19:59] <mohan_> anybody knows KernelRT?
[19:59] <hackndoes> i sent it from daniella
[19:59] <scunizi> Neconide: if you have to do everything from cli then to delete the file would be ... sudo rm /bin/.testing .. then repeat for the other directories
[20:00] <mohan_> where can i get ?
[20:00] <Neconide> scunizi: No
[20:00] <fccf> hackndoes: there are really good howto's on ubuntuforums on how to get the broadcom hardware to work... I have made them to work before with nm -- you shouldn't have any trouble
[20:00] <scunizi> Neconide: you might need to .. sudo rm -f /bin/.testing .. to force it
[20:00] <Neconide> scunizi: it doesnt exist. lmao
[20:00] <Neconide> scunizi: ...but it does :\
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom
[20:01] <fccf> Jack_Sparrow: TY
[20:01] <hackndoes> fccf, so you say i should use the nm
[20:01] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[20:01] <hackndoes> ?
[20:01] <zortec> How can I resize using the cli? I don't have a gui, just have the minimum install.  Can that be done through fdisk?
[20:01] <Neconide> scunuzi: Ah that worked.
[20:01] <Neconide> scunuzi: thank you<3
[20:01] <fccf> hackndoes: yes after you follow the instructions on the link that ubottu sent
[20:01] <erUSUL> zortec: no you have to do it from a livecd
[20:01] <scunizi> Neconide: good!  now repeat for the other directories..
[20:02] <erUSUL> zortec: mounted partitions can not be edited
[20:02] <hackndoes> fccf, thanks will replace it immediately.
[20:02] <Jack_Sparrow> zortec Please dont force a rewsize on a mounted partition
[20:02] <Neconide> scunizi: but it restores itself. instantly. lmao
[20:02] <fccf> hackndoes:  you might dl the correct drivers first
[20:02] <erUSUL> Neconide: best to sanitze the system from a livecd
[20:02] <zortec> erUSUL: I tried to use GParted but it won't load because of my graphics again
[20:02] <hackndoes> fccf, dl the correct drivers?
[20:02] <mdm> zortec: boot the system from CD, and use it to resize the partitions.  I would suggest you back them up first thogh
[20:02] <hackndoes> dl?
[20:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !info parted
[20:03] <zortec> erUSUL, Jack_Sparrow What else could I use to resize the linux partitions?
[20:03] <hwilde> Hello.  Has the theme Xfce-dusk been obsoleted in 9.04 ?   If not, where can I find it?
[20:03] <Jack_Sparrow> look up
[20:03] <hackndoes> fccf, dl as in download?
[20:03] <fccf> hackndoes: dl=download
[20:03] <scunizi> Neconide: try to .. sudo updatedb .. then... ls -la .testing
[20:03] <hackndoes> K
[20:03] <erUSUL> zortec: do it from a cli livecd ?
[20:03] <zortec> mdm: I can't get the live cd to boot so I need other alternatives...
[20:03] <zortec> erUSUL: You mean go back through the installer on the minimal cd?
[20:03] <Jack_Sparrow> zortec Yep, I remembered that from earlier
[20:04] <erUSUL> zortec: no there are livecd that boot into cli
[20:04] <zortec> erUSUL, Jack_Sparrow I just finished that
[20:04] <mdm> zortec: boot from net? boot from floppy? put the drive in another system?
[20:04] <erUSUL> zortec: systemrescuecd iirc
[20:04] <Jack_Sparrow> zortec try  sudo apt-get install parted
[20:05] <scunizi> Neconide: actually should be ... ls -a .testing .. I think
[20:05] <zortec> erUSUL: There is the live cd that I used to install ubuntu just now, it was cli
[20:05] <Neconide> scunizi: ls: cannot access .testing: No such file or directory
[20:05] <Jack_Sparrow> zortec nm.. not from running system.
[20:05] <scunizi> Neconide: oops actually should be ... ls -aR /.testing .. I think
[20:05] <zortec> erUSUL: You're saying to go back through the install again
[20:05] <erUSUL> zortec: use parted from it then
[20:05] <Neconide> scunizi: but i didnt remove it from all the dirs
[20:05] <scunizi> Neconide: ls just gives a listing of the file your searching for.
[20:05] <hackndoes> fccf, sorry but the it's very light in explanation. i can't understand what am i supposed to do from that
[20:05] <zortec> Jack_Sparrow You can resize mounted partitions while in linux?
[20:05] <hackndoes> can you please help me a bit further?
[20:06] <erUSUL> zortec: maybe it is easier to reinstall the system if you do not have important data to save
[20:06] <Neconide> ls: cannot access .testing: No such file or directory
[20:06] <Neconide> thats it
[20:06] <hwilde> Hello.  Has the theme Xfce-dusk been obsoleted in 9.04 ?   If not, where can I find it?
[20:06] <erUSUL> zortec: but a cli instaler is not the same as a live system
[20:06] <zortec> erUSUL, mdm: I wouldn't need to back anything up as I never installed anything on the system except for irssi
[20:06] <scunizi> Neconide: ok. ls -laR /testing
[20:06] <mdm> zortec: if you dont care about the data then wipe it out and reinstall
[20:06] <zortec> erUSUL: If I reinstall the system, will it let me resize those partitions that I have already used if that makes any sense?
[20:07] <erUSUL> zortec: wipe the partitions and create them from scratch
[20:07] <zortec> erUSUL: I didn't know that my /home should be larger than the root, didn't see anything about that in the forums or anyone who mentioned it
[20:07] <Jack_Sparrow> zortec just as easy to nuke them and start over
[20:07] <Senaris> !man dd
[20:07] <erUSUL> zortec: or just change th mount points
[20:07] <mdm> yes zortec you can delete the old ones and make a new layout, whatever you have space for
[20:07] <Jack_Sparrow> zortec mine is 3 to 1 root /home
[20:07] <mohan_> nobody here knows where can i get stable RT kernel?
[20:07] <erUSUL> zortec: you do not need to resize or recreate them just install root on the 10 GiB partition and home in the other one
[20:08] <zortec> erUSUL: So I just need to change them in the installer right?
[20:08] <erUSUL> zortec: yep
[20:08] <zortec> erUSUL: Will it try to write GRUB twice then?
[20:08] <fccf> hackndoes: It has been so long since I have worked with BCM hardware... all I know is I had to do alot of reading on the wiki & the forums to get it to work
[20:08] <erUSUL> mohan_: your question implies that you find the abiable in the repos not stable enough ??
[20:08] <zortec> erUSUL: I've already written GRUB to the MBR
[20:09] <erUSUL> zortec: it will just rewritte it no harm on that
[20:09] <scunizi> Neconide: I've gotta run.. good luck.. perhaps erUSUL can continue to help on this.. if it keeps reinstalling itself after deletion then there might be a cron job running all the time to check it.  You'll need to delete that too.
[20:09] <zortec> erUSUL: Just to make sure I have this right, go 3GB/swap, 10GB/root, 30GB/home
[20:09] <mohan_> erUSUL: yes.. RT kernel freezes my computer..
[20:10] <mohan_> erUSUL: i want another version..
[20:10] <erUSUL> fccf: just install b43-fwcutter while conected to internet by other means (wire)
[20:10] <Neconide> scunizi: thanks for your help.
[20:10] <W8TAH> can ubuntu (and ubuntu server) boot from an LVM partition ?
[20:10] <erUSUL> zortec: yes
[20:10] <NorthByNorthWest> I need to install the flac package in ubuntu server edition but i dont know what deb repository to add to sources.list, can anyone help?
[20:10] <Jack_Sparrow> zortec yes
[20:10] <scunizi> Neconide: np :)  a learning situation
[20:10] <erUSUL> !bugs | mohan_
[20:10] <Neconide> scunizi: yup yup, it is. Have a good day.
[20:10] <erUSUL> !info flac
[20:10] <zortec> erUSUL, Jack_Sparrow I'll be back in 20 mins.
[20:10] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[20:10] <erUSUL> NorthByNorthWest: it is main no need to add weird repos
[20:11] <fccf> hackndoes: see erUSUL's note
[20:11] <mohan_> erUSUL: this problem is faced to almost everyone who used ubuntu studio 9.04
[20:11] <mohan_> erUSUL: i think bug has been reported there.
[20:11] <zortec> I had another question before I forget, can I run sudo without having it prompt me for a password every time?
[20:12] <cowgarden> whats a good screencapture program? (need to adjust the FPS)
[20:12] <mohan_> erUSUL: can u guide me through another rt kernel apart from 2.6.28-3.12 ?
[20:12] <zortec> It even prompts for the same app multiple times
[20:12] <mdm> zortec: sudo is to help you , not hinder you.  There is an authentication time, but leave it as it is
[20:12] <NorthByNorthWest> erUSUL: that repo wasnt in my sources.list! (running ebox distro), but i added it and now FLAC was installed! Thanks! :)
[20:12] <mohan_> erUSUL: 2.6.28-3.12 (RT) is problematic regarding handling ACPI..
[20:12] <erUSUL> mohan_: nope... maybe you can use ne from previous ubuntu versions... but dunno if it is going to work well
[20:12] <hackndoes> fccf, what note? can you guide me to the wikis and knotes?
[20:12] <hackndoes> those you read?
[20:13] <zortec> mdm: I know it's there for security measures, but having to enter the same password to get in the app you were already in seems kind of counterintuitive
[20:13] <erUSUL> NorthByNorthWest: main was not added ? maybe in servers only security-updates is... ?
[20:13] <mohan_> erUSUL: hmm.. Do older version RT linux kernel works?
[20:13] <mdm> ok zortec I did warn you, go edit /etc/sudoers, in it put the user or group you want and have it =NOPASSWORD
[20:13] <fccf> hackndoes: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[20:13] <mohan_> erUSUL: shall i install and try?
[20:13] <mdm> sory =NOPASSWD
[20:14] <NorthByNorthWest> erUSUL: i dont know... ebox has many strenghts... but also some weaknesses that kan make you loose you hair prematurely!
[20:14] <mdm> zortec assuming you did not change it already there is an example already in the file
[20:14] <erUSUL> mohan_: it is up to you really... either that or compile your own
[20:14] <zortec> mdm: I don't want to leave sudo without a passwd, more along the lines of if you are going in the same app, can you have it not prompt for one?
[20:14] <mohan_> erUSUL: any link to the guide regarding rt kernel pls .. ?
[20:14] <mdm> zortec: sudo bash?
[20:14] <zortec> mdm: What is sudo bash?
[20:14] <erUSUL> !rootshell | mdm zortec
[20:15] <brodo> hi
[20:15] <brodo> hi
[20:15] <hackndoes> fccf, thanks, but could it be that removing the automatically installed network-manager and reinstalling it did the trick? i think it installed with some extra packages
[20:15] <mdm> sudo bash says run bash (a shell) as root
[20:15] <hackndoes> it suddenly works :)
[20:15] <fccf> hackndoes: cool, that was painless
[20:15] <mdm> sudo -i is basicly the same thing but it simulates and initial login
[20:16] <zortec> mdm: So that is good when you want to use apt-get or aptitude?
[20:16] <mdm> both are rather insecure to run, as erUSUL pointed out
[20:16] <fccf> brodo: If you have a question please ask it ... this is a support channel ... not for idle chat
[20:16] <zortec> mdm: I just was using sudo apt-get without the -i flag
[20:16] <hackndoes> fccf, you said it....
[20:16] <brodo> is the package python-xpcom broken on 9.04? i tried to install it and it dosen't work. (apt-get tells me the package is broken)
[20:17] <hackndoes> simply uninstall and reinstall, i guess amongst the extra packages were some needed ones. say how do i checked my latest installed packages?
[20:17] <brodo> can someone test that out on his machine plz
[20:17] <ibou__> sssalut
[20:18] <zortec> Do I need to delete the partitions before I resize them in the installer?
[20:18] <fccf> hackndoes:  there is a status in synaptic ... bottom left corner ... then installed ... top right corner
[20:18] <jakupl> brodo: I am installing it... seems to be working fine... but I am on 8.04
[20:18] <mdm> zortec: no you change the size to resize them, you delete them and recreate them in the installer
[20:18] <korjata> Can somebody help me out? I recently formatted a second internal hard drive and now it won't let me mount it outside of gparted.
[20:18] <billybigrigger> how can i find out which version of alsa i am running?
[20:19] <mdm> korjata: add it to /etc/fstab
[20:19] <zortec> mdm: So in my scenario I delete/recreate to have them changed?
[20:19] <hackndoes> fccf, thanks checking it out and lettin you know
[20:19] <fccf> hackndoes: sorry the installed thing is in the top left
[20:19] <korjata> mdm: how?
[20:19] <brodo> jakupl: thx... which python version are you using?
[20:19] <mdm> yes zortec
[20:20] <jakupl> billybigrigger: you should be able to see it in synaptic package manager
[20:20] <mdm> !fstab
[20:20] <zortec> mdm: Thanks for your help and will let you know how it turns out
[20:20] <zortec> quit
[20:21] <hackndoes> fccf, how to see all installed i know (aptitude search '~i') i wanted to know if there is a way for me to see my last installed ones or sort it by date of installation or something
[20:21] <Gdu> hi I have a problem with jumbo frames on the tigon3 driver, does anyone know where I could best go for help with this problem?
[20:22] <fccf> hackndoes: you can look in /var/cache/apt/archives and sort by date
[20:22] <jakupl> brodo: 1.8.1.18 I think
[20:22] <kenyon> hackndoes: /var/log/dpkg.log
[20:22] <fccf> kenyon: TY - that is true
[20:23] <lucart73> ciao
[20:24] <hackndoes> fccf, kenyon thanks guys
[20:24] <mdm> Gdu does your ENTIRE network and all its devices use jumbo frames?
[20:24] <The_Mime> what is a good remote desktop software for ubu.. i want to connect on a windows machine to my linux desktop
[20:24] <Gdu> yes, I am using a crossover to another device that supports it
[20:24] <fccf> The_Mime: I use UltraVNC on my winbox
[20:24] <brodo> jakupl: apt says that python-xpcom needs a python version < 2.6 but wants to install 2.6.2.
[20:25] <jakupl> The_Mime, I just use ssh... it's much easies...
[20:25] <The_Mime> i cant the office is blocking my ip
[20:25] <The_Mime> lol
[20:25] <lacita> Anyone know how to setup and use a VPN connection?
[20:25] <mdm> Gdu all devices, even the switch has to support them, even then its use is part of the "great contested network debate"
[20:25] <jakupl> brodo: well you can force apt to install a specific version if you want
[20:25] <The_Mime> so i need to see if i can proxy into a rdp
[20:25] <Gdu> I get the "SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument" when I try to set an MTU greater than 1500
[20:25] <The_Mime> or something like that
[20:25] <scofield> ciao
[20:25] <Gdu> there is no switch mdm, its a crossover cable
[20:25] <mdm> The_Mime: can you use ssh?
[20:26] <Zyskowicz> Hi
[20:26] <scofield> ci sono italiani?
[20:26] <daniella_> fccf, kenyon which do you think solved my problem ? http://pastebin.com/m1ae4f217
[20:26] <Zyskowicz> I just booted ubuntu whit live-cf
[20:26] <erUSUL> !it | scofield
[20:26] <The_Mime> i cant ssh into my ip
[20:26] <Zyskowicz> For removing ubuntu
[20:26] <lacita> Anyone know how to setup and use a VPN connection?
[20:26] <Gdu> mdm, the reason I need it is to communicate with a GigE camera
[20:26] <Zyskowicz> But it just gives some codes
[20:26] <taza> clambake (testing)
[20:26] <Gdu> mdm, I have a broadcom network card in the machine I'm using the tg3 driver with
[20:26] <racecar56> i have an old comp with a intel 82845g and because of that ubuntu is laggy, say when i scroll in firefox. anything i can do about it?
[20:27] <daniella_> fccf, kenyon it's hackndoes, on the problematic computer :)
[20:27] <mdm> Gdu then see how to set the MTU to 9000, keeping in mind some deviers support it, and some do not
[20:27] <fccf> daniella_: can't tell ... need more than one page
[20:27] <sebsebseb> racecar56: downgrade to 8.10?
[20:27] <Zyskowicz> What to do?
[20:27] <racecar56> sebsebseb, 'old comp'
[20:27] <Gdu> I use "ifconfig eth0 mtu 9000" and get "SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument"
[20:27] <sebsebseb> racecar56: which version?
[20:27] <racecar56> sebsebseb, canonical made impovements in 9.04
[20:27] <erUSUL> Gdu: sudo ip link set eth0 mtu 9000
[20:27] <daniella_> fccf, well as long as it works
[20:27] <daniella_> thanks guys
[20:27] <racecar56> sebsebseb, it's more light weight BUT the effects are too laggy
[20:27] <sebsebseb> racecar56: well  they didn't for my computers
[20:28] <racecar56> sebsebseb, ubuntu 6.06 works but i don't want to fly back in history.....
[20:28] <racecar56> sebsebseb, besides its DEAD
[20:28] <Gdu> erUSUL, "RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument"
[20:28] <sebsebseb> racecar56: indeed
[20:28] <racecar56> sebsebseb, today it died
[20:28] <racecar56> sebsebseb, :(
[20:28] <racecar56> sebsebseb, eh... what should i try doing?
[20:28] <mdm> Gdu: http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/faq_drivers.php
[20:28] <erUSUL> Gdu: works here... maybe the camer or the driver or the card does not support jumboframes
[20:29] <mib_kfgmcmum> help, I've tried googling what the boot option "xforcevesa" does, but can't figure it out
[20:29] <racecar56> sebsebseb, get a lighter DE?
[20:29] <Jack_Sparrow> mib_kfgmcmum tries to force vesa mode as default
[20:29] <sebsebseb> racecar56: there are other distros that are much better with older hardware
[20:29] <Gdu> erUSUL, which bcm chip are you using?
[20:29] <boss_mc> Has the whole world and it's dog just released an update?
[20:29] <boss_mc> or is my updates notifier playing up?
[20:29] <racecar56> sebsebseb, i like ubuntu too much
[20:29] <mib_kfgmcmum> Jack, when I installed, I selected option "safe graphics mode", does that make a difference?
[20:30] <fous_> how do u remove a directory on terminal
[20:30] <erUSUL> Gdu: no my GB card is a realtek 8169
[20:30] <Gdu> mdm, erUSUL, I have an BCM5755M
[20:30] <fous_> with items in it
[20:30] <Jack_Sparrow> mib_kfgmcmum At start or install press F4 and select safe graphics mode then press F6 and remove quiet splash and add these vga=normal xmodule=vesa xdrvr=vesa, res=1024x768
[20:30] <racecar56> fous_,
[20:30] <racecar56> fous_, easy
[20:30] <billybigrigger> boss_mc::: i tried to update this morning and had 0 updates...
[20:30] <racecar56> fous_, rm -r directory
[20:30] <boss_mc> billybigrigger: I just got 78
[20:30] <Jack_Sparrow> mib_kfgmcmum To get live cd to run this often helps..At start or install press F4 and select safe graphics mode then press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash use the noapic acpi=off options before the "--"
[20:30] <Doug_D> hey y'all. I got a weird problem. alsa works at the commandline, but not under GNOME. any ideas why?
[20:30] <racecar56> fous_, just WARNING: do not try to use spaces
[20:30] <fous_> mmmm i for got about the -r
[20:30] <sebsebseb> racecar56: ok
[20:30] <billybigrigger> boss_mc::: what mirror are you using?
[20:30] <sebsebseb> racecar56: you said Intel graphics card?
[20:30] <boss_mc> billybigrigger: Sever for UK
[20:30] <Gdu> mdm, erUSUL, the bcm5700 is considered buggy and not recommended
[20:30] <racecar56> fous_, if you want to remove a dir with spaces, e.g. 'foo bar', then type rm -r foo\ bar
[20:30] <billybigrigger> boss_mc::: i tried to update from the main ubuntu mirror this morning and there was nothing
[20:31] <racecar56> sebsebseb, yes
[20:31] <mib_kfgmcmum> Jack_Sparrow thanks I'll try that - that res is perfect for my display (somewhat older gateway laptop)
[20:31] <Gdu> the driver rather
[20:31] <billybigrigger> boss_mc::: ahh yeah, your updates might take a while to hit your mirror
[20:31] <Doug_D>  hey y'all. I got a weird problem. alsa works at the commandline, but not under GNOME. any ideas why?
[20:31] <KeLopez_CL> hello :)
[20:31] <Jack_Sparrow> mib_kfgmcmum hope that helps
[20:31] <fous_> lol foo bar i like that
[20:31] <sebsebseb> racecar56: some Intel graphics card issues in the release notes, maybe some of that effect you or not
[20:31] <racecar56> sebsebseb, 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 03)
[20:31] <sebsebseb> !notes |  racecar56
[20:31] <boss_mc> billybigrigger: have there just been a load (in the last few days) then
[20:31] <fous_> is there a way to do a defrag on termainal
[20:31] <billybigrigger> boss_mc::: not that i recall, what were the updates?
[20:31] <racecar56> sebsebseb, nope
[20:31] <Jack_Sparrow> fous_ What format is the partition
[20:32] <fous_> ex2
[20:32] <racecar56> fous_, linux dosent need defraggin
[20:32] <mib_kfgmcmum> Jack_Sparrow, yeah I got it installed and now it boots off the hard drive but it seems stuck at 800x600
[20:32] <fous_> what about unix
[20:32] <fous_> same?
[20:32] <lacita> So, I have a laptop with wireless, and a server with LAN only. Any way to connect the 2?
[20:32] <racecar56> fous_, i'd guess not
[20:32] <fous_> lol ok
[20:32] <racecar56> fous_, linux is unix-LIKE....
[20:32] <fous_> yes
[20:32] <racecar56> fous_, i guess it dosent
[20:32] <fous_> i no
[20:32] <Jack_Sparrow> mib_kfgmcmum Also note that detected abvailable res can also be an issue
[20:33] <fous_> well they have defrag on say apple
[20:33] <fous_> products
[20:33] <boss_mc> billybigrigger: don't have logs, but new kernel new xserver-xorg-video-intel, new vlc, new kile... those are the ones I remember
[20:33] <korjata> mdm: I have fstab open and it is there.
[20:33] <mdm> unix is a trademark, not an OS.  Linux is a unix emulator
[20:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !defrag
[20:33] <fous_> is that a different partition
[20:33] <sebsebseb> racecar56: well not much you can do I guess
[20:33] <sebsebseb> racecar56: if anything really
[20:33] <fous_> ok
[20:33] <mib_kfgmcmum> Jack_Sparrow, graphics is "Intel 82855GM (chipset integrated)"
[20:33] <sebsebseb> racecar56: try Xubuntu could do
[20:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !intel
[20:34] <racecar56> sebsebseb, i hate xfce
[20:34] <askand> !lastseen
[20:34] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl. please play nice while I lurk and eat lunch
[20:34] <fous_> o boy
[20:34] <racecar56> sebsebseb, it dosen't like wine
[20:35] <racecar56> sebsebseb, the menu screws up
[20:35] <sebsebseb> racecar56: Wine hummm
[20:35] <vitito> where can i get help with ettercap
[20:35] <korjata> mdm: I also notice it says ntfs-3g in the third column, which is wrong.
[20:35] <sebsebseb> racecar56: Wine so important hummm.  I remember an article I read where he suggested people ran native stuff :)
[20:35] <ganesh_> how do i upgrade version from 8.10 t0o 9.04 from commandline?
[20:35] <mib_kfgmcmum> what does !intel mean, and what does "known regression" mean?
[20:36] <boss_mc> billybigrigger: also, are the medibuntu servers down?
[20:36] <racecar56> sebsebseb, i don't use it on here though..... i really don't like xfce in the first place
[20:36] <erUSUL> ganesh_: do-release-upgrade --help
[20:36] <sebsebseb> ganesh_: editing sources.list and stuff
[20:36] <sebsebseb> ganesh_: or whatever
[20:36] <mib_kfgmcmum> OH, n/m I get it now that the "!" symbol prompts the bot to give help
[20:36] <erUSUL> sebsebseb: not needed « do-release-upgrade --help »
[20:37] <mdm> korjata: what is the file system of the partition? also what does mount -a tell you?
[20:37] <korjata> ext3 and only root can do that.
[20:37] <amews_aj> does wubi support 3d accelleration?
[20:37] <boss_mc> mib_kfgmcmum: a regression is where the new software/driver/etc is worse than the old (it's because there's a changover of protocols going on)
[20:38] <korjata> mdm: ^^^
[20:38] <fous_> whats the difference between ex2, ex3, ex4?
[20:38] <mdm> korjata: use sudo and your favorite editor, also I doubt the UUID is the same if you took a windows NTFS partiton and repartitioned it as ext3
[20:38] <jakupl> hey... quick question... I have added sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade in a cron script... will that to a distrobution upgrade when the next LTS release is out?
[20:38] <boss_mc> fous_: different versions, biggest change for you is that they get faster with each version
[20:38] <fccf> fous_: ext3 is currently the most stable
[20:39] <korjata> mdm: Yes I did have it as ntfs.
[20:39] <mdm> ext2 is the old original, ext3 added journaling, ext4 added 64bit support and faster journaling
[20:39] <ganesh_> i am using 8.10 and upgrade icon is not appearing after i tried to upgrade and aborted due to interruption in internet connection..how do i resume ?
[20:39] <boss_mc> fccf, ext4 is as stable as ext3 in ubuntu (admitedly not in the wild... canonical took a performance hit to improve file system integrity)
[20:40] <michele> hi+
[20:40] <mdm> korjata: then you will need to look in /dev/dsk/by-uuid to see what the new uuid is, if it is not there restart udev
[20:40] <michele> pls asl
[20:40] <boss_mc> korjata: or blkid
[20:40] <mdm> korjata: err /dev/disk/by-uuid
[20:40] <fous_> i c
[20:40] <fccf> jakupl: no .. sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to go up versions.. but you have to go through each version i.e. 8.04 > 8.10 > 9.04 etc
[20:40] <relentless> huh
[20:40] <michele> im italian
[20:40] <relentless> I forgot I have an issue
[20:41] <boss_mc> !it | michele
[20:41] <relentless> My Xorg.conf is busted,
[20:41] <fous_> we all do lol
[20:41] <jakupl> fccf: ok good... thank you
[20:41] <mdm> relentless: especaiily if its Xorg.conf and not xorg.conf :P
[20:41] <michele> ok sei un administrator
[20:41] <relentless> mdm :p
[20:42] <korjata> mdm, okay, I'm in that folder.
[20:42] <relentless> ill see if I can pastebin it
[20:42] <relentless> nvm I have to do it later
[20:42] <mib_kfgmcmum> boss_mc, ok, I'll look into that more
[20:42] <mdm> korjata: ls -l that folder, see what uuid matches the partition (well really the filesystem) and edit fstab with that value
[20:43] <racecar56> sebsebseb, odd fact: glxgears runs smoothly
[20:44] <Gdu> mdm, I found the answer to my problems
[20:44] <mdm> Gdu: what was the answer?
[20:44] <moldy> hi
[20:44] <Gdu> mdm, this is from the BCM57XX and BCM590X programmer's reference guide
[20:44] <Gdu> mdm, "Note: Jumbo frames are not supported by BCM5755, BCM5755M,
[20:44] <Gdu> BCM5787, BCM5787M, BCM5906, BCM5906M, BCM5754, orBCM5754M."
[20:45] <Gdu> damn...
[20:45] <chazco> Anyone using an evtouch display on 9.04 know how to stop crashes? Also, anyone know how to fix broken DVD playback in 9.04 (bug reports filed)? Also, anyone know how to reliably use WPA-Enterprise with iwl3945 on 9.04? Finally, anyone know if there is a way to fix the tcp window size issue without using tcp_window_scaling?
[20:45] <erUSUL> Gdu: :|
[20:45] <korjata> mdm: Where would I put it?
[20:45] <Vlet> Is there a way to get GEdit to right hand side of the leading whitespace upon hitting 'home' first, then secondly to the beginning of the line like in windows?
[20:46] <Vlet> *move the cursor to
[20:46] <mib_kfgmcmum> boss_mc, is it right to have a comma here "xdrvr=vesa, res=1024x768 "
[20:46] <nma> join #gamedev
[20:46] <mdm> korjata: follow the bots links on how to make an fstab entry its basicly the device, mount point, fs type, optioons, dump and pass
[20:46] <Bob1> hello i am having problems with a program i am using through WINE it is a program that requires constant internet connection but the program loses the connection every 5 seconds, then gains it, then loses it again and so on and so forth
[20:47] <boss_mc> mib_kfgmcmum: no idea, I was just defining and defending ubuntu's regression
[20:47] <Bob1> hello I have Ubuntu 9.04 and I am having problems with a program i am using through WINE it is a program that requires constant internet connection but the program loses the connection every 5 seconds, then gains it, then loses it again and so on and so forth
[20:47] <moldy> 2/wc
[20:47] <moldy> oops sorry :)
[20:48] <fccf> !repeat | Bob1
[20:48] <mib_kfgmcmum> boss_mc, oh no problem there, but I wanted to know the syntax of what the other guy gave me, is it right to have a comma here "xdrvr=vesa, res=1024x768 "
[20:49] <boss_mc> mib_kfgmcmum: I would have thought not, kernel options are not my strong point
[20:50] <mib_kfgmcmum> k
[20:50] <picketfences> Hopefully not a stupid question here: I have installed Kubuntu and Ubuntu on a laptop. I would like to make Kubuntu the default. After reading all the documentation for grub, I still have not found a way to make Kubuntu the default OS. Any help?
[20:50] <mib_kfgmcmum> anyone is it right to have a comma here "xdrvr=vesa, res=1024x768 "?
[20:51] <korjata> mdm: I don't have permissions to save the file.....
[20:51] <mdm> korjata: did you remeber to start the editor with sudo?
[20:51] <fccf> picketfences: on your login screen .. options > select session ... select KDE ... & make default
[20:52] <korjata> mdm:  brb.
[20:52] <picketfences> Does that just make my Ubuntu installation boot with KDE? Or will that actually make the laptop boot Kubuntu by default?
[20:52] <billybigrigger> has anyone here installed the newest alsa 1.0.20 drivers?
[20:53] <billybigrigger> im trying a script from the forums and make is failing, wondering if theres another way to do this
[20:54] <mdm> picketfences: it sounds like your confused on what the OS it, what booting is and X.  grub or lilo loads a kernel.  that in turn runs run controll and starts services,  one of which can be X, that in turn shows you a login screen.  what programs you run, are set in run controll and are controlled by run level
[20:54] <boss_mc> mdm, unless he has two complete OS's installed on one machine...
[20:54] <fccf> picketfences: linus is the OS ... ubuntu is the distrobution... KDE is the window manager ... if you like Kubuntu it is the KDE option is select session... ... good point mdm ...
[20:55] <korjata> mdm: I have: UUID=f430d80c-592e-4969-800c-dd6535a532f6 /media/Local\040Disk ext3 defaults 0 0
[20:55] <chazco> Hi... Ubuntu periodcally warns that the update data is out of date... is there a way to prevent this? (i know updating is the answer, but it cant be done eaisly and the computer isnt connected to the web)
[20:55] <mdm> boss_mc: even if he has multiple linux operating sytems, that is basicly the boot order and at a very high level what it does
[20:55] <mdm> korjata: it looks fine except that  /media/Local\040Disk
[20:55] <fccf> chazco:  in system>administration>software sources ... you can disable updates
[20:56] <korjata> mdm: There's a space there.
[20:56] <boss_mc> mdm, but it sounds to me like his grub is only seeing one of the kernels (in this case it's not too important, as he can change session, but say he has a dev kernel and a non-dev one on seperate partitions?)
[20:56] <picketfences> mdm:Granted, I do get confused on that. Let me clarify my situation. I have a 300GB hardrive partitioned nearly half and half. On the first half, I have Kubuntu installed with the latest kernel. On the second partition, I have Ubuntu installed with the latest kernel. Is there any way to make my Kubuntu boot by default (instead of Ubuntu)?
[20:56] <vovapoker> Hi
[20:56] <chazco> fccf - Didnt think of that (far too simple :D ), will try it :) Thanks :)
[20:56] <vovapoker> can you please help
[20:56] <fccf> chazco: I like simple - I run ubuntu
[20:57] <mdm> yes picketfences when grub loads chose one, if you want it default make it the first choice.  i would ask tho why you have two linux operating systems instead of just one thogh
[20:57] <chazco> fccf - But when stuff doesnt work its not usually simple :)
[20:57] <vovapoker> I canot instal an .exe file for the sofware justcamit
[20:57] <vovapoker> and there is no linux alternative
[20:57] <vovapoker> what can be done
[20:57] <vovapoker> ??
[20:57] <chazco> vovapoker - Maybe wine
[20:57] <chazco> !wine
[20:57] <Coldfire> hi all
[20:58] <fccf> picketfences: ... technically you can "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" on the first partition and delete the other partition ... you don't need 2 of the same OS
[20:58] <korjata> mdm: So I get rid of the 040 and put a space there then restart?
[20:58] <mdm> korjata: no need to restart, and make sure that mount point exists
[20:58] <picketfences> mdm: Kubuntu is installed for my uncle. He likes it's look better. Ubuntu is installed for myself.
[20:58] <fccf> chazco: this will work
[20:59] <sebsebseb> vovapoker: what does justcamit do?
[20:59] <fccf> picketfences: you can run both on one install and even switch back and forth on the fly
[20:59] <picketfences> fccf: Really?? That would be awesome! How do I get it to do that?
[21:00] <mdm> picketfences: you can still do all that with unubtu and kde, leave the kbunto and have it at that, but if you want both go find grubs menu.lst, probbaly /boot/grub/menu.list and take whatever you want as default and copy or move its lines to the first listed OS
[21:00] <ScottG_> Does anyone know the name of the package for the gnome screenshock app?
[21:00] <chazco> Anyone know how to fix evtouch crashes on Ubuntu (bug reports filed)? Also, anyone know how to use WPA enterprise with iwl3945 (bug reports filed)? Finally, anyone know how to fix the tcp_window_scaling issue without disabling tcp_window_scaling?
[21:00] <AMinE_Dz> salem
[21:00] <Coldfire> salem
[21:00] <Coldfire> FR,??
[21:00] <korjata> mdm: DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.Failed: An operation is already pending       is what I get with the 040 there, without it's just "there's no Local/"
[21:01] <racecar56> sebsebseb, openbox dosen't lag :>
[21:01] <fccf> picketfences: on the ubuntu install type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop - then setup your uncle's user to use KDE and you use gnome by default
[21:01] <Myrtti> !fr | Coldfire
[21:01] <racecar56> sebsebseb, it's working nice, just one thing...
[21:01] <sebsebseb> racecar56: use that then if you want
[21:01] <racecar56> sebsebseb, how do i get it to show icons from the ~/Desktop folder?
[21:01] <hwilde> Myrtti, are you good with networking and port forwarding ?
[21:01] <sebsebseb> racecar56: I don't use it
[21:01] <picketfences> mdm: I'll give that a try.
[21:01] <racecar56> sebsebseb, k
[21:01] <fccf> picketfences: then delete the other os and resize your main partition for ubuntu
[21:01] <Myrtti> hwilde: not particularly, how come
[21:01] <picketfences> fccf: I'll try that if mdm's idea doesn't work out.
[21:01] <axisys> how do I request to deb pkg upgrade? current proftpd is based on 1.3.1 .. i like to request it to upgrade to 1.3.2 .. i need to use mod_exec which only runs on 1.3.2
[21:02] <racecar56> does anyone know how to make openbox (or *box for that matter) read the ~/Desktop folder for what it displays on the Desktop, so I won't have to constantly update idesk?
[21:02] <picketfences> fccf: Oh, I see what you're saying. Okie dokie.
[21:02] <mdm> picketfences: actually do what fccf said, it will be cleaner in the end
[21:02] <picketfences> mdm: Understood. Thank you both for your help.
[21:02] <axisys> do I send an email to ubuntu-users mailing list ?
[21:02] <hwilde> Myrtti, I have a computer on wifi that can't get to the internet.  My desktop has a link to the wifi, and to the internet.   How can I get the computer to apt-get update through my desktop?
[21:03] <boss_mc> korjata: put a backslash before the space
[21:03] <picketfences> fccf: Um, one other question, tho. How do I delete Ubuntu and keep Kubuntu, and tell grub about it at the same time? Is that included in what you told me to do?
[21:03] <boss_mc> korjata: like /media/Local\ Disc
[21:03] <gasto> will I have problems with my Nvidia GeForce 6200 card if I install Ubuntu 9.10
[21:03] <gasto> ?
[21:03] <racecar56> gasto, 9.04
[21:03] <racecar56> gasto, wait nvm
[21:03] <Myrtti> gasto: 9.10?
[21:03] <boss_mc> !9.10
[21:03] <Myrtti> !karmic > gasto
[21:03] <racecar56> gasto, are you trying alpha?
[21:03] <korjata> boss_mc: same thing as above.
[21:04] <G_A_C> picketfences, ubuntu and kubuntu are "the same OS"
[21:04] <nemo_> n.it
[21:04] <G_A_C> you'll just boot with grub as normal, AFAIK
[21:04] <Myrtti> hwilde: you should be able to do that with network manager, though not sure
[21:04] <Myrtti> hwilde: I'm not that deep into it
[21:04] <picketfences> G_A_C: I understand that. They are the same OS, but with a different look. I guess I wasn't thinking when I had my "bright idea".
[21:04] <hwilde> Myrtti, nobody is
[21:04] <picketfences> But this is how we learn, right?
[21:05] <G_A_C> picketfences, too true :)
[21:05] <mdm> picketfences: log into kubuntu, mount the other partition(s), assuming its all one copy stuff you want to keep from it (like your home directory) then reformat that partition, then repurpose it
[21:05] <gasto> hes
[21:05] <relentless> Ubuntu + KDE = Kubuntu
[21:05] <Myrtti> hwilde: "man route"
[21:05] <fccf> picketfences: you will need to use a live ubuntu cd and run the partition manager to delete the Kubuntu install... then you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst file to remove the other os
[21:05] <gasto> I need 9.04
[21:05] <hwilde> Myrtti, lol
[21:05] <gasto> actually
[21:05] <boss_mc> korjata: according to man fstab you should use \040 for a space, what's the error when you do that?
[21:06] <rodrim2> join #medibuntu
[21:06] <cthompson_> I am trying to extract a war file to a specific folder(that doesn't exist)??
[21:06] <gasto> I had no luck installing the drivers for Ubuntu 8.10
[21:06] <relentless> fccf cant you use cfdisk and remove the partition with out a live CD?
[21:06] <korn_> my computer just crashed when I wanted to delete some files. how can I find out if ext4 was the reason?
[21:06] <Fish-Face> Hello, folks, an issue that has developed in 9.04 for me - I can no longer change the display brightness on this Dell Vostro 1510 laptop. Several internet articles recommend echoing things to /proc/acpi/video/... but I don't have that directory - any tips?
[21:06] <gasto> I hope I don't have the same problems on 9.4
[21:06] <Myrtti> hwilde: I've used it only once to route traffic from my laptop to virtualbox guest
[21:06] <guntbert> hwilde: put your question to the channel, don't pick a single nick/user for your question, so  "everybody" will read it and eventually answer
[21:06] <korjata> boss_mc: DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.Failed: An operation is already pending
[21:06] <hwilde> guntbert, do you know how to do it ?
[21:07] <slestak> im trying to get my mic to work with jaunty.  i have checked every mixer level in also and pulse i can find.  cant ever get anything on mic channel
[21:07] <boss_mc> korjata: that sounds like the line is corrrect but there's something else stopping it from working
[21:07] <picketfences> mdm & fccf: I couldn't have figured this out without your help. Thanks so much. I'll try to come back and let you know how it went.
[21:07] <fccf> relentless: you can use cfdisk but the other way is technically less technical
[21:07] <mib_m27s4q> just installed kubuntu (I know its ubuntu channel) and cant seem to drag anything to the desktop or copy things there - how come?
[21:07] <kaka> oi alguem ai
[21:07] <hwilde>    I have a computer on wifi that can't get to the internet.  My desktop has a link to the wifi, and to the internet.   How can I get the computer to apt-get update through my desktop?
[21:08] <Myrtti> mib_m27s4q: #kubuntu
[21:08] <slestak> i have pavolumecontrol looking at the HDA Intel input device and do not see where to adjust further
[21:08] <guntbert> hwilde: your description is (for me) a bit hazy, what is your configuration and what are you trying to accomplish?
[21:08] <slestak> hwilde: is the desktop using win or ubuntu
[21:10] <chetnick> exit
[21:10] <slestak> looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/music-microphone.html now, hopefully will help
[21:11] <gasto> will I have any problems installing my Nvidia Geforce 6200 graphics card on Ubuntu 9.04?
[21:11] <gasto> I need to know
[21:11] <gasto> because I will try
[21:11] <mdm> hwilde: are you trying to share a connection from a connected PC to a non connected PC?
[21:11] <gasto> and I don't want to waste another week of trial and error
[21:11] <gasto> I want to know if the default driver application will install it correctly for me
[21:11] <guntbert> gasto: standard advice: try with the live CD :-)
[21:12] <Fzang> how would I copy something to clipboard through terminal?
[21:12] <mari_> what is the command to run screen resolution GUI with root access?
[21:12] <anonymtrk> ctrl-shift-c
[21:12] <hwilde> guntbert, slestak, mdm,   computerA is on internal wifi that has no outside internet,  computerB eth1 on internal wifi,  computerB eth0 is on internet.  I want computerA to be able to get internet through computerB.
[21:13] <anonymtrk> can anyone help me about lost partitions?
[21:13] <racecar56> anonymtrk, testdisk can help maybe
[21:13] <mdm> hwilde: really I would just connect computer a directly, but setup ipchains on computer B and make it a firewall for computer A
[21:13] <racecar56> anonymtrk, i have lost partitions myself :P
[21:13] <Fzang> mari_, sudo gnome-display-properties
[21:13] <mari_> thanks fzang
[21:13] <mdm> hwilde: is there some reason you dont simply use a hub or switch and share the ethernet connection?
[21:14] <hwilde> mdm, "security"
[21:14] <hwilde> mdm, if it were that easy I wouldn't be here asking u know
[21:14] <anonymtrk> racecar56, i can not see them under Ubuntu installation disk, it sees the complete disk, not my partitions. can UBCD help it?
[21:14] <guntbert> hwilde: what OS runs on B?
[21:14] <LuciusMare> when i install putty,is pscp already included?
[21:14] <hwilde> guntbert, all are ubuntu
[21:14] <mdm> then making computer A a firewall is what you want
[21:14] <racecar56> anonymtrk, maybe
[21:14] <hwilde> mdm, you mean proxy ?
[21:14] <LuciusMare> when i sudo apt-get install putty,is pscp already included?
[21:14] <anonymtrk> all my backups are there
[21:15] <anonymtrk> :(
[21:15] <anonymtrk> :)
[21:15] <mdm> hwilde: you could, or put in ipchains and make a masquerading firewall
[21:15] <hwilde> LuciusMare, pscp is provided by putty-tools
[21:15] <mari_> Fzang: sudo: gnome-display-properties: command not found
[21:15] <guntbert> hwilde: so you want to share the internet connection from Computer A via wifi with B?
[21:15] <racecar56> anonymtrk, systemrescuecd helped me
[21:15] <racecar56> anonymtrk, but it didnt fix my partitions...
[21:15] <mdm> then whatever eth0 is on computer A becomes the default gw for computer B
[21:15] <LuciusMare> hwilde: i just want to secure copy things from one computer to another
[21:15] <hwilde> LuciusMare, scp
[21:15] <LuciusMare> actually from linux to windows
[21:15] <racecar56> anonymtrk, i was setting up this old comp im using to chat with u now
[21:15] <anonymtrk> then all my backups will go, right? racarter
[21:15] <anonymtrk> racecar56,
[21:16] <Fzang> mari_, are you sure? no typos? it works for me
[21:16] <racecar56> anonymtrk, testdisk will recover your stuff
[21:16] <hwilde> guntbert, I can't explain it any better than I just did
[21:16] <anonymtrk> ok
[21:16] <hwilde> mdm, looking at ipchains now
[21:16] <anonymtrk> let me have a try
[21:16] <baldr> Hello all , can I please ask something about python here ?
[21:16] <mari_> Fzang I have xubuntu, so I guess gnome wont work ^
[21:16] <guntbert> hwilde: I asked a yes/no question
[21:16] <mari_> what should I put insted?
[21:16] <mdm> hwilde: setting up linux as a firewall takes VERY little resources, it may even be preferable to use some older hardware
[21:16] <anonymtrk> if u see me here again, this means an f-disk is being made :D
[21:16] <racecar56> mari_, it's the same is
[21:17] <dupondje> What is a good burning tool on Ubuntu ? Brasero doesn't find my DVD writer, and GnomeBaker crashes every second :(
[21:17] <racecar56> mari_, os
[21:17] <racecar56> mari_, sudo apt-get install gnome gets gnome
[21:17] <Fzang> mari_, just a wild guess but try xfce_display_properties
[21:17] <mari_> ok
[21:17] <hwilde> mdm, ipchains is deprecated :/
[21:17] <hwilde> guntbert, no.  reread what I said
[21:17] <hwilde> guntbert, computerA is on internal wifi that has no outside internet,  computerB eth1 on internal wifi,  computerB eth0 is on internet.  I want computerA to be able to get internet through computerB.
[21:18] <mdm> hwilde: probably my firewall is too, but it works :) just use whatever is lastest
[21:18] <baldr> ciao
[21:18] <racecar56> dupondje, wodim?
[21:18] <hwilde> mdm, iptables... but I don't think that does what I ant
[21:18] <racecar56> dupondje, it's command line
[21:18] <mdm> hwilde: yes that is how you share network connections in linux
[21:18] <dupondje> command line is like 1990 :P
[21:18] <racecar56> dupondje, how to run it: wodim dev=/dev/cdrom iso-image.iso
[21:19] <guntbert> hwilde: I mixed it up: so you want to share the internet connection from Computer B via wifi with A?
[21:19] <racecar56> dupondje, just make an iso of what you want to burn, run wodim on it, and boom
[21:19] <dupondje> racecar56:  don't need to burn iso, need to burn compilation ...
[21:19] <racecar56> dupondje, notice: assuming /dev/cdrom is your cdrom
[21:19] <mdm> hwilde: computer B is running what OS?
[21:19] <hwilde> guntbert, yeah I guess so
[21:19] <hwilde> mdm, all ubuntu
[21:19] <racecar56> dupondje, um compile it as an iso, wodim always works for me
[21:20] <max_> hello
[21:20] <racecar56> dupondje, it should work for u too
[21:20] <LuciusMare> when i want to copy files from linux to windows
[21:20] <racecar56> ih
[21:20] <racecar56> hi
[21:20] <LuciusMare> trough utp cabel,how can i do that?
[21:20] <guntbert> hwilde: did you have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing ?
[21:20] <Gorfy00> ok i am a newb to linux, in a sense, and i'm curious if anyone else is having problems sharing from ubuntu to ubuntu in jaunty? and if so anyone have any fixes?
[21:20] <mdm> hwilde: there are also distrbutions that do firewall exclusivly with a MUCH smaller footprint
[21:20] <max_> I need script help
[21:20] <LuciusMare> i tried putty but it hangs up at connecting to the computer
[21:20] <ScottG> Does anyone know of a way to get gnome to draw a transparent background?
[21:20] <ScottG> I want to allow compiz to draw it
[21:20] <hwilde> LuciusMare, why not just mount the windows filesystem ?
[21:20] <hwilde> !ntfs | LuciusMare
[21:20] <gasto> how am I supposed to test the video card in the Live CD?
[21:20] <mdm> LuciusMare: either teach winodws NFS or use samba to share the drives in linux
[21:21] <LuciusMare> hwilde: actually,its hard to mount a partition over utp
[21:21] <baldr> Can someon please tell me the Italian ubuntu IRC channel ?
[21:21] <hwilde> !it | baldr
[21:21] <guntbert> gasto: you *have* the card?
[21:21] <baldr> Thanks :D
[21:21] <hwilde> LuciusMare, well it doesn't work because you wouldh ave to run an ssh server on the windows machine to connect to it with putty/pscp
[21:21] <LuciusMare> hwilde: how can i do thatM?
[21:21] <LuciusMare> *?
[21:22] <hwilde> LuciusMare, no idea.  google for windows ssh server     I guess
[21:22] <Gorfy00> well i go to the sharing part by right clicking on it through and going through the shares and everytime i get that setup i go over to my other pc and it tells me unable to mount: failed to receive share list
[21:22] <LuciusMare> but windows can connect to the linux
[21:22] <LuciusMare> and i am not running an ssh server
[21:22] <LuciusMare> i think
[21:22] <LuciusMare> i mean,my windows machine can connect to the windows machine
[21:23] <chocobanana> LuciusMare: did you enable a firewall on the linux machine?
[21:23] <mdm> LuciusMare: you want to share drives? use samba from the unix box.  Or just get the smbfs tools and share a drive from the windows box.  Either way it will work, just make sure its behind a firewall and that firewall does not pass SMB/CIFS
[21:23] <LuciusMare> no
[21:23] <chocobanana> LuciusMare: are you trying to share files and folders?
[21:23] <LuciusMare> chocobanana: no,linux does not even have any "real" firewall
[21:23] <LuciusMare> mdm: yes,but i dont know how to set samba
[21:24] <clocKwize_> hey, how can i logout of gnome back to the login screen without using the gnome-panel applet? (i'm using awn with a shutdown applet, but it doesn't have logout as an option)
[21:24] <clocKwize_> is there a command i can run?
[21:24] <guntbert> gasto: if I recall correctly "hardware drivers" work in the live CD too, or you could use a usb stick with room to "keep" data
[21:24] <chocobanana> LuciusMare: of course it has real firewalls. Ufw and iptables are two examples!
[21:24] <Mozartstaedter> how could i invert this ??? "sudo sed -e 's/ non-free//' -i /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list"   i didn't wanted the non-free parts some time ago but now i need skype and it is not shown in synaptics because i used the syntax above ... or is there another way to get the non-free parts back in my repositories???
[21:24] <LuciusMare> iptables is not firewall
[21:24] <neurobuntu> clocKwize, have you tried logout?
[21:25] <mdm> LuciusMare: then share the drive from Windows, and use cifs to mount the drive on the linux box
[21:25] <NigroLinux> hey I have a problem with my Uubuntu
[21:25] <LuciusMare> mdm: can you /msg me the tutorial?
[21:25] <gasto> guntbert, what do you mean I *have* the card?
[21:25] <mdm> sure
[21:25] <Guest30333> Hi
[21:25] <Guest30333> I
[21:25] <guntbert> clocKwize_: <ctrl><alt><backspace> should also work (you may have to install dontzap though)
[21:26] <CybeRebel> hello all:) is it true that if you mess with ubuntu system sounds you could end up having to reinstall?
[21:26] <guntbert> !dontzap
[21:26] <NigroLinux> how do i throw the home folder into the trash?
[21:26] <clocKwize_> ah, i run gnome-session-save --kill
[21:26] <Guest30333> I'm having a problem with this new 9.04
[21:26] <clocKwize_> that took me back to the login screen, but i log back in and everything is still open? lol
[21:26] <CybeRebel> sorry for silly questions but im new to compouters
[21:27] <guntbert> gasto: if the card is in your computer you should be able to test it, I was not sure if you were planning to buy it
[21:27] <gasto> so , how am I supposed to test and see if the drivers work booting on Live CD?
[21:27] <NigroLinux> I NEED HELP
[21:27] <Guest30333> Older ubuntu worked really fine with wlan, i could use wlanconfig to destroy the connection etc
[21:27] <Mozartstaedter> anyone an idea how i can get back the non-free components from the medibuntu repositories??? i removed them some time ago ...
[21:27] <NigroLinux> my linux is acting up
[21:27] <chocobanana> NigroLinux: hahaha. why do you ask?
[21:28] <NigroLinux> chocobanana :D
[21:28] <guntbert> gasto: /system/administration/hardwareDrivers as usual?
[21:28] <chocobanana> NigroLinux: what's the problem with the home folder?
[21:28] <NigroLinux> chocobanana I need help throwing the home folder into the garbage bin
[21:28] <NigroLinux> im using nigrolinux
[21:29] <racecar56> sebsebseb, i'm using a gnome-openbox mash lol
[21:29] <chocobanana> NigroLinux: then you should ask about that in the nigrolinux chat room ;)
[21:29] <racecar56> sebsebseb, ran gnome-panel and nautilus in background
[21:29] <NigroLinux> chocobanana nigrolinux is ubuntu with negroe GUI
[21:29] <guntbert> Mozartstaedter: go to System/administration/software sources ... third party...
[21:29] <billybigrigger> anyone here installed alsa 1.0.20? or know if theres a ppa for it?
[21:30] <NigroLinux> chocobanana obama linux
[21:30] <racecar56> sebsebseb, now all i have to do is find out how to make them start up on login
[21:30] <gasto> guntbert, I understand that the live CD works on CD basis, how is it able to access the Hard Drive and install the graphics driver?
[21:30] <orochi_> NigroLinux: You need to go back to troll practice, too obvious
[21:30] <chocobanana> NigroLinux: right. I'm still sure you can go ask about that in the appropriate chat room
[21:30] <bastid_raZor> !startup > racecar56
[21:30] <racecar56> anyone know where the openbox rc file is? or does it look for a rc in ~?
[21:30] <rom1v> hi
[21:31] <rom1v> I use ubuntu + gnome, how to configure kde4 applications (digikam), for example to disable "simple clic action"?
[21:31] <racecar56> bastid_raZor, i'm using a openbox-gnome mash
[21:31] <rom1v> I installed systemsettings, but it is empty
[21:31] <CybeRebel> please help, is ti safe to change ubuntu logon sound without causing damage?
[21:31] <guntbert> gasto: it uses RAM for storage too, just try it and come back if that doesn't work for you
[21:31] <bastid_raZor> racecar56; possibly ask in ##linux or an openbox channel. this is Ubuntu
[21:32] <racecar56> bastid_raZor, just booted openbox, ran gnome-panel and nautilus in background, so it looks like gnome except for the window decorations
[21:32] <bastid_raZor> racecar56; or even ##gnome
[21:33] <agroker>  where to tell to DHCP to not to overwrite the resolv.conf?
[21:33] <chocobanana> CybeRebel: of course, there's no problem in changing the sound to whatever you prefer, otherwise the option wouldn't be there!
[21:33] <arbatos> -latina.org
[21:33] <racecar56> agroker, make resolv.conf read-only?
[21:33] <racecar56> agroker, idk...
[21:33] <agroker> racecar56, thought about that, thnx
[21:33] <CybeRebel> what i thought but was told it coud mean reistallatio :(
[21:34] <chocobanana> CybeRebel: non sense. I personally disabled it here
[21:34] <orochi_> NigroLinux: See, you've been muted already, totally ineffective trolling
[21:34] <racecar56> agroker, sudo chmod =r /etc/resolv.conf
[21:34] <racecar56> agroker, that is one way to do it...
[21:34] <CybeRebel> sorry i dont no any thing about computers
[21:34] <G_A_C> agroker, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/dhclient-etcresolvconf-hooks/
[21:34] <G_A_C> there's a few ideas there
[21:34] <CybeRebel> am trying to learn
[21:34] <legend2440> is there supposed to be a file called Xorg.0.log in jaunty? i can't find it.
[21:35] <chocobanana> CybeRebel: that's ok!
[21:35] <guntbert> agroker: are you using network manager?
[21:35] <bastid_raZor> legend2440; /var/log/ look in there
[21:35] <agroker> guntbert, I'm not sure I know the answer
[21:35] <legend2440> bastid_raZor: ok thanks
[21:35] <yrahan> Hi guys, I've some troubles to get sound working under jaunty jackalope, here are my characteristics http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=027af49e9037caddc1d8b8bc3127b65726cf77ec could someone please help me :) (do not hesitate to precise the command lines to execute in the terminal, cause I'm a newbie int the linux world :) )
[21:35] <CybeRebel> thanks to all you digital gods i might grt thre :)
[21:36] <guntbert> agroker: how did you configure your network in the beginning?
[21:36] <Gorfy00> please help: ubuntu 9.04 (jaunty). When creating a samba share from this PC, another PC (same distro) receives "Unable to mount location, failed to receive share list from server". Cause?
[21:36] <agroker> G_A_C, thank you, trying to look at the link
[21:36] <Soopa> Hi all, I put something in my /etc/fstab that didn't work.. where would I find an error message for it?  Is there a log?
[21:36] <legend2440> bastid_raZor: it was there thanks
[21:37] <CybeRebel> thank you chocobannana :)
[21:37] <bastid_raZor> legend2440; no problem
[21:37] <agroker> guntbert, I got everything through DHCP, but later realised that Mepis and DEbian sites are been blocked by the vierizon business DNS servers, so I tried to use the opendns ones
[21:37] <FluxD> Hi, I am looking for other alternatives to remote desktop other than VNC and NX if anyone has any suggestions.
[21:37] <chocobanana> CybeRebel: you're welcome :)
[21:37] <Gorfy00> Soopa, ~$dmesg or ~$cat  /var/log/syslog
[21:37] <guntbert> Soopa: try to use it from the terminal. like mount <first entry in the line>
[21:37] <l7> doh, i deleted a file that i am currently downloading with wget.  is there a way to undelete it by making another link to it's inode?
[21:38] <Soopa> okay, thanks Gorfy00 and guntbert
[21:38] <l7> it's a very large dvd image so i would rather not waste time downloading it from scratch again
[21:38] <k3rn3l> somebody speak spanish?
[21:38] <papersoul> hello
[21:38] <mdm> por que?
[21:38] <papersoul> i'm getting a grub loading, please wait error 15 message
[21:38] <k3rn3l> mdm, queria hacer una consulta
[21:39] <Gorfy00> then you aren't getting it running.
[21:39] <papersoul> i can't finish the installation... can anyone help?
[21:39] <k3rn3l> lo que pasa es que quiero desactivar el automontaje de unidades en ubuntu, como lo hago?
[21:39] <guntbert> agroker: open System/preferences/network connections
[21:39] <guntbert> !es | k3rn3l
[21:40] <Gorfy00> papersoul, that would mean that it is unable to find the partition or disk that it is told to. have you re-arranged the drive order recently?
[21:40] <Gorfy00> please help: ubuntu 9.4 (jaunty). When creating a samba share from this PC, another PC (same distro) receives "Unable to mount location, failed to receive share list from server". Cause?
[21:40] <agroker> guntbert, I don't have that thing under Gnome
[21:40] <vovapoker> I instaled wine and i still can not isntal some exe files. what else can i do ?
[21:40] <agroker> guntbert, what I have is Sys > Adm > netowrk
[21:40] <k3rn3l> ubottu, ok, thank's ... i can talk in english anyway ..
[21:40] <guntbert> agroker: what ubuntu version are you running?
[21:40] <papersoul> no i haven't, at least not that i'm aware of
[21:41] <FluxD> !nx
[21:41] <mdm> y hablo realmente espanol, hago tan lo que dijo el ubottu
[21:42] <Dark_L0rd> CD-rom not mounting in jaunty after upgrade, any help appreciated, oh the computer is sony vaio VGN-SZ370P
[21:42] <guntbert> !es > mdm
[21:42] <sere> anyone know if its possible to get a high resolution with nvidia out than 1024
[21:42] <k3rn3l> msm, sabes como desactivar el automontaje de unidades??
[21:42] <k3rn3l> mdm
[21:42] <mdm> err tejano, damn my Spanish is bad :)
[21:42] <Linux_newb> Im having problem with madwifi, does 9.04 support it even?
[21:42] <mdm> thank you guntbert but I was telling him in Spanish to follow what ubottu said.
[21:43] <LjL> k3rn3l: /join #ubuntu-es
[21:43] <papersoul> so does anyone know how to fix the grub error 15?
[21:43] <k3rn3l> Linux_newb, what card do you have???
[21:43] <papersoul> i've reinstalled ubuntu 3 times, still same result....
[21:43] <guntbert> mdm: :)
[21:43] <Slart> papersoul: what does error 15 mean?
[21:44] <k3rn3l> LjL, okas .. i'm there too :)
[21:44] <Dark_L0rd> CD/DVD rom is not mounting after a jaunty upgrade, any help is appreciated
[21:44] <papersoul> something with partition booting from what i gather
[21:44] <vovapoker> I have ubuntu 9.04 .I instaled wine and i still can not install some exe files. what else can i do ? please help me! thank you .
[21:44] <mdm> papersoul: it means file not found, make sure you dont have a typo
[21:44] <guntbert> Slart: iirc "file not found"
[21:44] <lazaruslupine> Linux_newb, whats your issue w/ madwifi? Works fine on my laptop.
[21:44] <Gorfy00> vovapoker, run xp in a vm. wine is not a window emulator.
[21:44] <papersoul> mdm, typo for what?
[21:44] <metaaa> why isn't xmms in the repo?
[21:44] <k3rn3l> Linux_newb, do you have Atheros wireless card ?
[21:45] <papersoul> what i boot up the pc, right away i get that msg
[21:45] <Linux_newb> atheros it is
[21:45] <mdm> papersoul: in your menu.lst for grub
[21:45] <Linux_newb> i think
[21:45] <Linux_newb> :D;
[21:45] <papersoul> how do i access that
[21:45] <papersoul> <--noob
[21:45] <mdm> papersoul: its in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:45] <k3rn3l> Linux_newb, so .. try this $sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic
[21:45] <metaaa> WTF why isn't xmms in the apt repositories?
[21:45] <Slart> papersoul: hmm.. kernel not found, I suppose then.. or perhaps it's the grub configuration that it can't find... do you get the grub menu?
[21:45] <guntbert> mdm: 15 comes especially when it cannot find menu.lst
[21:45] <Linux_newb> i¨ll try
[21:46] <papersoul> mdm, how do i get to that file if i can't boot up?
[21:46] <mdm> papersoul: you will need to use a boot cd, then redo the boot loader
[21:46] <papersoul> ok so use the live session, yes?
[21:46] <Slart> papersoul: you're not using some kind of BIOS boot selector, are you?
[21:46] <Vlet> metaaa: have you enabled universe, etc in the sources?
[21:47] <Gorfy00> metaaa: "xmms2" or "gxmms2" (gnome)
[21:47] <papersoul> no just the grub that came with 9.04 disk
[21:47] <metaaa> ah, coolbeans
[21:47] <Slart> !xmms | metaaa
[21:47] <k3rn3l> Linux_newb, after reboot  ... go to the menu --- > System --> Administration --> Hardware controller  and Active  Atheros Wireless Card
[21:47] <mdm> metaaa: or amarok :)
[21:47] <metaaa> i prefer xmms thanks
[21:48] <metaaa> and just because it's not being developed doesn't mean it doesn't still work, it's software that plays music, that's all i'm after
[21:48] <swayed> Hi - Where do I change an app to be the default app to run a program instead of a current default app ? ?
[21:48] <metaaa> so pulling it from the repo was a dick move, thanks
[21:48] <Gorfy00> !samba
[21:48] <vovapoker> Gorfy00 what is xp in a vm.   ?
[21:48] <Jack_Sparrow> metaaa try xmms2
[21:48] <Slart> metaaa: there were lots of bugs that weren't being fixed.. so they dropped it from both debian and ubuntu
[21:48] <metaaa> Jack_Sparrow, cool thanks
[21:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !info xmms2
[21:48] <Vlet> metaaa: I with you... I just installed windows 3.1 on all my systems :p
[21:49] <billybigrigger> anyone here installed alsa 1.0.20? or know if theres a ppa for it?
[21:49] <metaaa> what's the front end for xmms2?
[21:50] <metaaa> Vlet, funny.
[21:50] <swayed> How do you set an application to be the default application ? ?
[21:51] <Gorfy00> metaaa, gxmms2
[21:51] <Slart> swayed: right click on it, select open with.. or properties.. I think you can do both
[21:52] <Slart> swayed: it seems 'properties' is the way to set the default app
[21:52] <vovapoker> Gorfy00 what is xp in a vm.   ?
[21:52] <swayed> Slart, Thanks - couldn't remember - old fart syndrome....  :(
[21:52] <metaaa> hmm, not working
[21:52] <metaaa> i want a music player that looks like the old xmms
[21:52] <Slart> swayed: =)
[21:52] <icqn> !info gnomedo
[21:52] <icqn> !info gnome-do
[21:53] <sierinjs> hello, what's the name of program, that i can mount images of cds?
[21:53] <Slart> !mountiso | sierinjs
[21:54] <Slart> sierinjs: I think there is a front end for gnome available .. something like gmount or some such
[21:54] <sierinjs> i tried that, but it says that i need to specify file type
[21:54] <Slart> sierinjs: what kind of image is it?
[21:54] <sierinjs> (the terminal way)
[21:54] <sierinjs> fta vice city ;D
[21:54] <sierinjs> *gta
[21:55] <icqn> sierinjs, you need to convert it to iso first
[21:55] <Slart> sierinjs: what *kind* of image is it.. ie bin/cue , iso, img etc
[21:55] <sierinjs> .iso
[21:55] <eshat> Hi all,... I need a simple answer: How do I list all packages, that have been installed from experimental ?
[21:55] <Slart> sierinjs: run "file blabla.iso" .. change blabla.iso to whatever it's called.. what does it say about the file?
[21:56] <Slart> eshat: what is "experimental" ?
[21:56] <sierinjs> bash-3.2# file g.iso
[21:56] <sierinjs> g.iso: data
[21:56] <sierinjs> bash-3.2#
[21:56] <arand> eshat: filters in synaptic
[21:56] <eshat> Slart: Sorry, I meant a speacial repository
[21:56] <Slart> sierinjs: so it's not a proper iso file
[21:56] <eshat> arand: is there a dpkg command ?
[21:56] <sierinjs> hmm... damn it
[21:56] <swayed> Slart, I have VLC set as my default movie player - but if I try playing a .vbs file through www.orb login page - It defaults with "Movie Player" which does not working - I think VLC would play it but not sure how to change this to default with what I'm doing ?
[21:57] <Slart> sierinjs: did you convert it or it was like that when you.. ahem.. created it from the original disc?
[21:57] <Slart> swayed: I think there is a package for settings vlc as the media player for firefox.. I don't think it ever worked for me.. but perhaps you have more luck with it
[21:57] <Slart> *setting
[21:58] <perlsyntax> I mv a file to ~/.emacs.d/ and how do i look in that file?
[21:58] <swayed> Slart, Well that points in the right direction - thanks again....
[21:58] <perlsyntax> i try to untar it
[21:58] <perlsyntax> do i cat ~/.emacs.d/
[21:59] <Bram_P> I did unpack a .tar.gz archive, there are many different files in it, how can I install the program?
[21:59] <kbrosnan> swayed: Slart mozilla-plugin-vlc
[21:59] <swayed> Slart, Running Opera as well - might give it try in that one as well.
[21:59] <sylvanus_> What is fips mode in firefox and why can't I fix problem?
[21:59] <guntbert> !compile | Bram_P
[21:59] <perlsyntax> anyone
[21:59] <swayed> kbrosnan, Thank you sir.
[21:59] <kbrosnan> sudo of course
[21:59] <Slart> Bram_P: well.. a tar.gz file is just a compressed archive.. like a zip file.. there can be many kinds of files inside it.. binaries, source code.. pictures or polar bears.. anything really
[22:00] <guntbert> Bram_P: are you sure you must compile that yourself?
[22:00] <Slart> Bram_P: you'll have to tell us what is in there.. is there a file called INSTALL or README?
[22:00] <Bram_P> Slart: yes there is a readme, but it only says it does also need other programs to work
[22:00] <Slart> kbrosnan: ah.. that's the one.. good find
[22:00] <guntbert> perlsyntax: try at first: file <yourfile>
[22:00] <sylvanus_> Can somebody help me? I can't change my master password in firefox because it says I'm in fips mode?
[22:01] <perlsyntax> ?
[22:01] <Bram_P> guntbert: well there is only a .tar.gz and it isn't in any of the package managers
[22:01] <Slart> Bram_P: that is all it says? and the file INSTALL?
[22:01] <arand> eshat: I don't know of one, there will be, obviously, but I am blank.
[22:01] <swayed> kbrosnan, I forget how to manage plug-ins in FFox - can you just type in a certain URL into address bar to do that?
[22:01] <Slart> sylvanus_: never heard of fips mode
[22:01] <kbrosnan> swayed: tools > addons > plugins
[22:01] <jakupl> !ubottu
[22:01] <sylvanus_> great I guess I'm stuck
[22:01] <perlsyntax> guntbert,What you mean
[22:02] <eshat> arand: I just found the package: apt-show-versions
[22:02] <Bram_P> Slart: there is no INSTALL....
[22:02] <swayed> kbrosnan, Cool - Thought so
[22:02] <Slart> Bram_P: ok.. how about you tell us what it is you've downloaded
[22:02] <neurobuntu> sylvanus_, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475745
[22:02] <speakman> One of my sound cards is suddenly missing in PADEVCHOOSER. Using Jaunty, and it did work yesterday but now after a reboot (no update installed or anything) it's lost in Pulseaudio. Any ideas?
[22:02] <guntbert> perlsyntax: you were asking abot "a file", so my first tip is, to look what kind of file it is, therefore the command file ...
[22:02] <swayed> kbrosnan, Always brain dead on Mondays - ya know - heh heh
[22:02] <Bram_P> Slart: well it is a program which works as a rapidshare download manager
[22:03] <Slart> Bram_P: ok.. is it source code? or binary files?
[22:03] <kbrosnan> sylvanus_: maybe reverse the steps at http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Configuring+Firefox+for+FIPS+140-2
[22:03] <eshat> anyone on kde4 ???
[22:03] <Slart> !anyone | eshat
[22:03] <ZykoticK9> I'm wondering if ANYONE is successfully using jscal (the joystick calibration tool from the "joystick" package) successfully under 9.04?  I have tried 2 installs: one being straight Ubuntu the other MythBuntu under 9.04 and on both installs jscal seem to have no impact.  Under 8.10 jscal works fine.  The reason jscal is required: my ps2 controllers work perfectly without any need for calibration BUT my n64 controllers do NOT!  I store the output
[22:03] <ZykoticK9> of jscal into scripts then calls those scripts when I'm using the N64 controllers.  This issue is preventing me from updating my HTPC computer to 9.04, it's a "show stopper" for me.  Doesn't someone else use jscal, or does this potential bug only affect it's single user?
[22:04] <Bram_P> Slart: it are many python files
[22:04] <Slart> eshat: but to answer your question..yes.. I think several people are "on kde4" some might even be here.. or in #kubuntu
[22:04] <eshat> Does amarok2 support ipod devices?
[22:04] <Slart> Bram_P: can you pastebin the output of "ls" in the root folder?
[22:04] <eshat> Slart: thanks ;)
[22:04] <mdm> eshat: yes
[22:05] <metaaa> thanks for the not-help, i found xmms on my own
[22:05] <Slart> Bram_P: root folder as in the base folder where you unpacked the tar.gz  .. not root /
[22:05] <Slart> metaaa: you're welcome
[22:05] <mdm> metaaa: give a man a fish vs teach a man to fish
[22:05] <Slart> metaaa: if you get any problems with it, feel free to pop in and we'll non-help you again
[22:06] <istvan> hey, i accidently messed up my settings, is there an terminal command to fix them?
[22:06] <Slart> istvan: which settings?
[22:06] <istvan> i'm having issues with the mermissions because pulse among other programs doens' tlike it
[22:06] <Bram_P> Slart: I understand :) moment, going to paste it now
[22:06] <metaaa> well, i asked for xmms, you try to get me to use something else, that's not really helping, but i found what i was looking for
[22:06] <neurobuntu> istvan, there are a lot of settings, which ones?
[22:06] <perlsyntax> I try to mv this file template-3.1c.tar.gz  "~/.emacs.d/"
[22:06] <perlsyntax> how would i do that
[22:07] <istvan> my home folder has wrogn permissions, and also my folders inside it are not all correctly permissioned (from data migration) - i just want to to do a recursive permission chagne tomy home dir to set it to what it should be
[22:07] <Slart> metaaa: we told you xmms wasn't supported on ubuntu.. and not available from the repos
[22:07] <Bram_P> Slart: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/186023/
[22:07] <neurobuntu> perlsyntax, are you trying to unzip the archive or move the archive?
[22:07] <hacker_kid> im on a fresh install of ubuntu 8.04, when a user logs in they are logged back out (taken back to login screen) before their desktop even loads. what could cause this?
[22:07] <perlsyntax> what do you mean
[22:07] <perlsyntax> i try to move it
[22:07] <metaaa> ubuntu, the new windows "isn't supported" nice
[22:07] <neurobuntu> istvan, try chmod ### username * -R
[22:07] <hacker_kid> failsafe gnome logins work fine
[22:07] <istvan> neurobuntu: is that what my home dir should be too?
[22:07] <Slart> metaaa: and honestly.. I doubt many people run it.. since it has been dropped..
[22:08] <istvan> neurobuntu: and what number should i put in ### ?
[22:08] <Slart> metaaa: many people = many people in this channel
[22:08] <perlsyntax> neurobuntu,I try to move the file.I untar it and i want to move it to  "~/.emacs.d/"
[22:08] <istvan> or should i leave it ##
[22:08] <hatter243> hacker_kid, the same thing that you just tried to solve for istvan. Try chown -R [username]:[username] /home/[username]
[22:08] <mib_kfgmcmum> OK, I followed the instructions on Intel graphics compatibility here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582, but I then realized it was for Jaunty, and I have intrepid running: should this cause a problem?
[22:08] <hatter243> istvan, do that too
[22:09] <speakman> Can anyone help me with PulseAudio ??
[22:09] <perlsyntax> ?
[22:09] <Slart> Bram_P: ok.. try this.. cd to that folder and run "python setup.py install"
[22:09] <Slart> Bram_P: I'm pretty sure that is mentioned in the readme.txt
[22:10] <DMSaruman> Hi everyone, i have a question about bad sectors and data loss
[22:10] <DMSaruman> anybody interested?
[22:10] <istvan> one word *spinrite*!
[22:10] <fccf> !ask | DMSaruman
[22:10] <Slart> DMSaruman: just ask
[22:10] <istvan> DMSaruman: ^
[22:10] <Bram_P> Slart: it says: error: /usr/local/bin/lrg: Permission denied
[22:11] <mdm> DMSaruman: if you dont ask the question, nobody will answer
[22:11] <Slart> Bram_P: ok.. put a sudo in front of that
[22:11] <DMSaruman> ok sorry.
[22:12] <Bram_P> Slart: thank you very much for all your help, it works now!
[22:12] <Slart> Bram_P: you're welcome
[22:12] <Xodiac13> ing to watch a movie and i cant
[22:12] <Xodiac13> it says i dont have permission how do i fix it
[22:12] <DMSaruman> so i have two partitions on my internal HD (laptop), and when I booted into my LiveCD, it told me that I had bad sectors on my C partition (/dev/sda2). I backed up all of my data w/ NTFSClone --rescue, and i'm not sure what to do now. Is that disk safe enough to use? can I read/write without concern?
[22:13] <istvan> my sound still isn't working
[22:13] <metaaa> Slart, xmms2 is ugly, and i liked the win-amp look of xmms, that and xmms2 didn't work after installing both it and gxmms2
[22:13] <istvan> how do i re-install it?
[22:13] <mdm> DMSaruman: if that disk has bad sectors replace it.  It will only get worse
[22:13] <istvan> should i re-install pulseaudio?
[22:13] <istvan> DMSaruman: use spinrite
[22:13] <Xodiac13> can someone please help me i am trying to watch a movie and it says i dont have permission do i need to run it in the termianl
[22:13] <regeya> xmms2 is ugly?  is it possible to do a screenshot of a client-server architecture?
[22:14] <DMSaruman> mdm: I installed smartmontools, and after a perfunctory test, it said that my disk "passed" a healthy inspection
[22:14] <metaaa> regeya, gxmms2, the front end, is ugly
[22:14] <mdm> DMSaruman: do a long offline test and have it test for bad sectors
[22:14] <abraka> how do I resize my screen on ubuntu?
[22:15] <fccf> DMSaruman: does the ubuntu installer still show errors?
[22:15] <Slart> metaaa: did you try audacious? I haven't run winamp in many years but it reminds me of winamp as I remember it
[22:15] <regeya> ohhhh...I see.  there is more than one front end for xmms2, though...but point taken, thanks :-)
[22:15] <Xodiac13> is there anyway to watch movies on ubuntu
[22:15] <jakupl> ..hmmm what is the ubottu "ops" factoid really for? What qualifies as an emergency?
[22:15] <DMSaruman> mdm: that won't exacerbate the problem(s) will it?
[22:15] <regeya> Xodiac13: define "watch movies" I do all the time.  DVDs?  mp4?
[22:15] <Xodiac13> it is dvds
[22:15] <DMSaruman> fccf: I was in gParted when I realized the problem, not Ubuntu Installer
[22:15] <regeya> !css
[22:15] <regeya> !css > Xodiac13
[22:15] <mdm> DMSaruman: no only tell you if that disk is really bad
[22:15] <jophish> oh wow: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3604/3585051300_d23a37a32e_o.png
[22:15] <regeya> whoops
[22:16] <DMSaruman> mdm: this makes sense
[22:16] <Xodiac13> ubottu: okay
[22:16] <fccf> DMSaruman: same question - only w/gparted
[22:16] <regeya> lol
[22:16] <Slart> jakupl: people spamming the channel.. screaming abuse.. that kind of stuff
[22:16] <metaaa> Slart, huh, indeed
[22:16] <regeya> o_O
[22:16] <fccf> Xodiac13: ubottu is a bot .. we are able to pass commands to it to give hints
[22:16] <Xodiac13> o okay lol
[22:16] <Xodiac13> sorry
[22:16] <regeya> rofflecopters on that bing screenshot
[22:17] <Slart> jakupl: many ops have it set to some kind of alarm on the systems, or so I've heard.. so think once or twice before using it
[22:17] <Xodiac13> fccf: so what do i have to do to watch movies
[22:17] <DMSaruman> fccf: yes, it still says that there is bad sectors on the /dev/sda2 partition.
[22:17] <fccf> DMSaruman: Replace the drive .. it will only get worse
[22:18] <Xodiac13> fccf: all i need to do is watch movies i did the ubuntu restricted i need help because it says i dont have permissio
[22:18] <DMSaruman> fccf: I'm thinking that I will only have this laptop for a few more months anyway, I just want to know if it will last that long
[22:18] <fccf> Xodiac13:  see what ubottu said 4 minutes ago
[22:18] <DMSaruman> mdm: is it OK to still be on LiveCD while the extended self-test is performing?
[22:18] <guntbert> Xodiac13: did you read the links from ubottu?
[22:18] <Xodiac13> guntbert: no not yet which link
[22:18] <jakupl> Slart, cool.. and that will message the ops to come and see? Maybe if someone needs to be banned? ... no worries. I'm not gonna use it now :)
[22:18] <fccf> Xodiac13: where is the file you want to play?
[22:18] <mdm> DMSaruman: yes and its preferable
[22:19] <Xodiac13> fccf: its a dvd in my cd/dvd rom drive
[22:19] <guntbert> !dvd > Xodiac13
[22:19] <Slart> jakupl: yup
[22:19] <Xodiac13> !dvd
[22:19] <DMSaruman> mdm: ok. I'll run the test now
[22:19] <fccf> Xodiac13: and you have libdvdcss2 installed?
[22:19] <Xodiac13> fccf: no how do i do that
[22:19] <regeya> Im impressed that bing.com actually works in firefox :-P
[22:19] <gregor> witam
[22:19] <Xodiac13> fccf: i am using 9.04
[22:20] <guntbert> !info libdvdcss2
[22:20] <Slart> Xodiac13: are you trying to play commercial dvds?
[22:20] <DMSaruman> mdm: this is worrisome. I started the test, and it "completed" itself at 10% with a "read failure"
[22:20] <Xodiac13> Slart: yes
[22:20] <Slart> !info libdvdread4
[22:20] <histo> guntbert: its in the medibuntu repos
[22:20] <mdm> DMSaruman: as I suspected, replace the disk
[22:20] <histo> !medibuntu > guntbert
[22:20] <guntbert> histo: thx
[22:20] <Slart> Xodiac13: let me know if you get it working.. it doesn't work for me either
[22:20] <fccf> Xodiac13: Do some research - medibuntu is a good place to start
[22:21] <Xodiac13> Slart what do i type in my terminal
[22:21] <fccf> Xodiac13: or debianmultimedia
[22:21] <fccf> Xodiac13: Not that simple
[22:21] <Slart> Xodiac13: take a look at that !dvd factoid.. I think there is a howto there
[22:21] <histo> Slart: you just need the files from medibuntu repos to  play them.
[22:21] <Xodiac13> Slart: okay thank you
[22:21] <Shooree> I just did an update and it apparently messed up my X server and graphics stuff. I barely made it to graphical display after restarting. Now my system tells me I don't appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. I ran nvidia-xconfig, as the message said I should, but nothing changed. I still haven't got my window title bars. any thoughts?
[22:21] <blip-> isn't there a command to make sudo not expire ?  I'm trying to run a long backup job as root
[22:21] <DMSaruman> mdm: as I was telling fccf (i don't know if you saw) the HD only has to last a few more months. Plus, when I ran CHKDSK /f in Windows, it said that there were only 4 kb of bad sectors. I don't know if that's changed or not.
[22:22] <Slart> histo: oh.. I've tried that.. running the scripts, downloading libdvdcss, libdvdread and those.. still doesn't work
[22:22] <Xodiac13> !dvd
[22:22] <guntbert> blip-: you can use sudo -i, it gives you a root shell
[22:22] <Slart> blip-: why not use sudo -i
[22:22] <phase_shift314> how can i go about playing a sound when i minimize or close a window?
[22:22] <turncoat> libdvdcss
[22:22] <Slart> blip-: remember to exit that shell when you're done
[22:22] <blip-> Slart, guntbert that
[22:22] <Kalmi> Shooree, uninstall the old restricted drivers and install them again (you will be installing a newer version)
[22:22] <fccf>  !libdvdcss2
[22:22] <blip-> that is the same as sudo su ?
[22:22] <guntbert> blip-: but don't forge to close it again
[22:23] <Slart> blip-: not really.. but close
[22:23] <xnixan> what is the best application for recording desktop on ubuntu?
[22:23] <Slart> !best | xnixan
[22:23] <Slart> xnixan: xrecordmydesktop is one I've heard mentioned
[22:23] <guntbert> blip-: better, but essentially yes
[22:23] <mdm> DMSaruman: that disk has failing sectors, most disks that will only accelerate.  In fact do not be surprised if loose ALL the data on that disk.  Currently you only have a few files that are corrupted.  You are already PAST the point of data recovery, back it up and hope for the best.
[22:23] <Shooree> Kalmi, how do I uninstall it, though? It says I don't have them. the update messed up something major
[22:23] <blip-> guntbert, Slart, I will be using this to run a backup job on a remote server (using a screen) session.  it will keep running all night, in the morning i'll reconnect over ssh and open the screen session.  does this sound safe ?
[22:24] <turncoat> best application
[22:24] <archdave> anyone know the apt-get or apt-cache command that reports all installed packages?
[22:24] <Slart> blip-: why do you need sudo to not expire then?
[22:24] <turncoat> dpkg -l
[22:24] <mdm> archdave: dpkg -l
[22:24] <Slart> blip-: it will not expire for the command that is running
[22:24] <archdave> ty
[22:24] <Xodiac13> Slart: i have already dont that what i am trying to do is get permission to watch it it says i dont have permission
[22:24] <turncoat> it's not apt-cache, but it works..
[22:25] <Slart> Xodiac13: I can't help you.. I can't even help myself.. sorry
[22:25] <DMSaruman> mdm: thanks for the advice. good thing laptop HDs are so cheap >_>
[22:25] <Xodiac13> Slart: np
[22:25] <Shooree> Kalmi, can I just activate the recommended version from "hardware drivers"? It actually tells me that I have a different version of it in use.
[22:25] <blip-> Slart: hmm I remember sometimes running progs for long, I come back and it's expired.  just to be on the safe side, I don't want to wake up and see the backup had failed
[22:25] <Xodiac13> i need help on watching dvds
[22:25] <Xodiac13> all i need is permission
[22:25] <Kalmi> Shooree, yes... that seems ok
[22:25] <Slart> blip-: it will not expire.. if it does, you've got other problems
[22:25] <Xodiac13> i have already done the repo and medibuntu
[22:25] <Slart> blip-: you're running one command? or a script?
[22:26] <Shooree> Kalmi, ok, but I messed it up once already by doing it... I'll try restarting
[22:26] <Kalmi> !dvd | Shooree
[22:26] <blip-> Slart: it's one command, (dirvish which then calls rsync)
[22:26] <thompa> anyone know if intel 965gm is still borked if i upgrade?
[22:26] <Kalmi> Shooree, wait...
[22:26] <Shooree> ok
[22:26] <blip-> Slart: so 2 processes
[22:26] <Kalmi> Shooree, you could remove it using synaptic...
[22:26] <Slart> blip-: once you've started a program with sudo/gksudo it will run as root.. the only thing that expires is when you want to run *another* sudo command
[22:26] <phase_shift314> how can i go about playing a sound when i minimize or close a window?
[22:26] <thompa> im on 8.04
[22:26] <Shooree> oh!
[22:26] <Kalmi> Shooree, or apt-get
[22:26] <blip-> Slart: rsync is forked by dirvish
[22:26] <Shooree> how stupid am I
[22:26] <Xodiac13> is it possible to watch movies on ubuntu
[22:26] <Xodiac13> ?
[22:27] <blip-> Slart: ah ok I see.  Ill run it normally with sudo then.  thanks
[22:27] <Slart> blip-: but if you run dirvish as root chances are that rsync will run as root too
[22:27] <ZykoticK9> archdave, i much prefer the output of dpkg --get-selections "*" >myselections which creates a nice file called myselections -- this can also be used for system imaging type situations :)
[22:27] <Xodiac13> i just nned to know how to get permission
[22:27] <Kalmi> Shooree, it will be nvidia-177-*something* or something like that...
[22:27] <Shooree> Kalmi, but I already activated it now. would that be a problem?
[22:27] <Xodiac13> because it asks
[22:27] <blip-> Slart: yeah it does
[22:27] <baldo> nhgv
[22:27] <thompa> or is 8.04 working with 965gm cause of kernel or xorg driver?
[22:27] <blip-> Slart: wait maybe the rsync one will expire :?
[22:27] <NoVARaif> Afternoon all. I'm interested in finding a way to periodically (and automatically) run and log ping and traceroute results from my ubuntu server.  I've been having issues with my VoIP QoS, and I'd like to have conclusive proof to give to my ISP to show the problem is in their infrastructure.  I'm not finding much via google, so I thought I'd stop in here.
[22:27] <blip-> since it's not the main program, I don't know.  I guess not
[22:27] <Slart> blip-: you worry to much.. run it with sudo.. go to bed ;)
[22:27] <Kalmi> Shooree, oh... you managed to activate it... just restart than
[22:27] <mib_kfgmcmum> can someone help, I just installed a bug fix, and want to know if I still need the kernel option "xforcevesa".  I now seem to have my full resolution available, rather than just the 800x600 I had before
[22:27] <blip-> hahaha :)  thanks Slart
[22:27] <baldo> michael levi
[22:28] <Shooree> Kalmi, ok then... here goes. thx
[22:28] <Xodiac13> !dvd
[22:29] <rabi> hi every body
[22:30] <pik}> my friend just installed jaunty on his laptop (hp dv 6000 series) and he's having some weird freeze problems.  can anyone tell me what might cause this?
[22:30] <WoW> Hey guys how do i open port 5900 on here? Ubuntu jaunty
[22:30] <rabi> is any one here ?
[22:30] <Shooree> Kalmi, no luck. Upon restart it tried starting gdm a few times and failed, then started it up in low graphics mode
[22:31] <guntbert> rabi: yes
[22:31] <rabi> i m new ka i have some help ?
[22:31] <no_more_ext4> i want a encrypted linux system disc install, is it possible?
[22:31] <Shooree> Kalmi, now I'm back to generic settings. the display itself is almost fine, it's just that it doesn't show window frames, titlebars and task panes
[22:31] <Kalmi> Shooree, um... just remove all nvidia releated stuff than... so than you can start fresh... "--purge" also might help a bit
[22:31] <guntbert> !ask | rabi
[22:31] <rabi> thnx
[22:31] <rabi> so
[22:32] <WoW>  how do i open port 5900 on here? Ubuntu jaunty
[22:32] <rabi> i have an tv card
[22:32] <guntbert> !enter | rabi
[22:32] <Shooree> Kalmi, would you be so kind to type the entire command? I'm quite the noob at troubleshooting. thanks a bunch
[22:32] <nightdrever> has anyone used unetbootin?....and is it worth it?.....just now ive used wubi
[22:32] <jakupl> !enter | rabi
[22:32] <Kalmi> WoW: there is no firewall enabled by default... (it's probably your router...)
[22:32] <aliean> :-D hi folks, question: How do you format a 27TB file system either ext4 or XFS?
[22:32] <rabi> but its driver is available only for windows
[22:32] <genii> WoW: What you probably want is to look at your router and forward that port to the internal LAN IP of that machine.
[22:32] <Kalmi> nightdrever, yes... it's cool if you don't have a cd around...
[22:33] <genii> WoW: No ports are disabled by default
[22:33] <WoW> it tells me i cant connect thru
[22:33] <WoW> i need to be able to vnc my blackberry to ubuntu thats my goal lol
[22:34] <Kalmi> Shooree, sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-*
[22:34] <Slart> aliean: 27TB?? you have 27TB of drive space and you ask in #ubuntu what to do with it?
[22:34] <bob__> openoffice3.1 installed and now get document recovery error and than crashes any help here?
[22:34] <NoVARaif> Afternoon all. I'm interested in finding a way to periodically (and automatically) run and log ping and traceroute results from my ubuntu server.  I've been having issues with my VoIP QoS, and I'd like to have conclusive proof to give to my ISP to show the problem is in their infrastructure.  I'm not finding much via google, so I thought I'd stop in here.
[22:34] <genii> WoW: Again. See your router's manual
[22:34] <Shooree> thx, Kalmi
[22:34] <rabi> with linux manriva 2006 no prob  but whit ubuntu  i have some trouble in how shoosing the appropriate application to start it
[22:34] <WoW> umm ok...
[22:35] <brett__> I just installed unbuntu 9.04.  My Dell laptop that it is on is now running very hot.  Tried the forums, but they seem to be down (at least I can't get to them)
[22:35] <zathras_laptop> anyone know how i can "destroy" an md array when the creation screwed up...
[22:35] <simplexio> NoVARaif: cron
[22:35] <guntbert> bob__: #openoffice.org might be a better place for that
[22:35] <simplexio> !cron
[22:35] <rabi> if any one has an answer  i m grateful
[22:35] <NoVARaif> simplexio: yeah, been thinking about that... just pipe the output to a text file
[22:35] <aliean> Slart: Yes, we inherited this form a previous manager and it's 32-1TB disks that are raided. I tried command line with mkfs.xfs -b size=8K but it wont format it
[22:36] <simplexio> NoVARaif: commmand > file.txt
[22:36] <Slart> aliean: go to your boss and tell him you're not qualified for the job you have ;)
[22:36] <mdm> aliean: how does that raid device show up to the OS?
[22:36] <NoVARaif> simplexio: yep... or >> file.txt to append
[22:36] <Shooree> Kalmi, after the purge, should I just restart or... hm, it doesnt show ANYTHING in hardware drivers now. should I update apt-get?
[22:36] <brett__> Are the forums down?
[22:37] <aliean> Slart: That's why I'm here. It shows up as a 28TB space
[22:37] <simplexio> NoVARaif: yep ... and probably you need run that stuff as root, depending net software you use
[22:37] <dr_spork> Hi everyone, I've been having lots of bizarre issues with brightness control on my laptop. It was all working on the previous version of ubuntu. Does anyone know how to revert packages and what packages might be responsible for controlling laptop brightness?
[22:38] <NoVARaif> simplexio: then the fun of analyzing/compiling the results can begin, eh?  Rofl...
[22:38] <simplexio> aliean: 1T as 1000G or as 1024G
[22:38] <jakupl> dr_spork, have you tried rightclicking on the panel, adding the brightness applet there to fix it?
[22:38] <alanbell> dr_spork: I have no idea myself but you might want to tell us your laptop model and Ubuntu version.
[22:39] <fccf> brett__: forums are working
[22:39] <dr_spork> I'm using Karmic (I know, I know) on an MSI Wind. I haven't tried the brightness applet but I suspect that the problem might have to be solved at a more fundamental level
[22:39] <aliean> simplexio: They're segates Barracuda ES.2 1000GB
[22:39] <thelaugh1ngmime> what the equivelent of ctrl+a?
[22:40] <brett__> odd.  I go to www.ubuntuforums.org and firefox just sits there stating it is downloading from the site.  Never gives me a page.
[22:40] <UntouchableMX> hey guys
[22:40] <Slart> aliean: you need to read the documentation for both xfs and ext4, there are probably limits on block sizes and such.. and you will probably have to tweak the settings to avoid things going horribly wrong..
[22:40] <brett__> hi, UntouchableMX
[22:40] <jakupl> brett__: I have no problems entering the site
[22:40] <simplexio> aliean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terabyte
[22:41] <UntouchableMX> hows every 1
[22:41] <brett__> hmm.  Guess I'll try a cache clear
[22:41] <fccf> !chat | UntouchableMX
[22:41] <simplexio> aliean: and xfs MAX should be 16 exabytes
[22:42] <fccf> UntouchableMX: this is not a chat channel this is a support channel.. for chatting use #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:42] <aliean> Slart: I read both and I am trying to format it using the 8K block size which gives me more than 32TB file system. The operation fails half way through.
[22:42] <mdm> its max is 1,024 PB that is xfs tho not the inode cache
[22:42] <Slart> simplexio: unless you're on a 32bit system.. then it's 16 TB
[22:42] <geirha> thelaugh1ngmime: In what context?
[22:42] <NoVARaif> simplexio: thanks... I'm off to see about shooting myself in the foot in a WHOLE new way :D
[22:42] <aliean> Slart: I am using a 64BIT system
[22:42] <mdm> aliean: I would guess you are running into the OS inode cache limit as xfs can most certainly handle that
[22:42] <aliean> Ubuntu 9.04
[22:43] <UntouchableMX> hey one question, I install a windws driver for my wifi card using ndiswrapper, but it wont connect to the router, and the Password I give it is the correct one
[22:43] <mdm> aliean: what does uname -m say?
[22:43] <aliean> mdm: Maybe it's the raid controller but I see the raw space when I go to partion editor as 28TB
[22:43] <nano404> Anyone familiar with Super Grub Disk? I was getting error 17. "Cannot mount selected partition", now that I tried redoing the Flashdrive and burning a CD it now says "This is not a bootable disk" etc. Thanks
[22:44] <_user_> hey pals when the 2.6.30 kernel be released to ubuntu ????? i have 945 gma and need to use the fixes on the new kernel to boost my grapghics performance ???
[22:44] <Slart> aliean: well.. I can't really help you.. I've only played with stuff below 2TB.. I've had no problems with xfs on those partitions
[22:44] <zenxr> UntouchableMX: that happens to me everytime I re-install. I always switch to the Wicd network manager and it solves the problem
[22:44] <fccf> UntouchableMX: ndiswrapper sometimes does not work with encryption .. you may want to try a linux native driver
[22:44] <aliean> mdm: x86_64
[22:44] <UntouchableMX> ok zenxr Ill try that
[22:44] <aliean> SLart: Thanks :-D
[22:44] <mdm> aliean: it shows up as 28TB? then that is the driver for whatever raid card or the chip on the card
[22:44] <UntouchableMX> fccf the linux native driver dosent work for me
[22:45] <fccf> UntouchableMX: pastebin your lspci output - I may be able to point you in the right direction for the driver
[22:45] <mdm> aliean: what HBA is connecting it? via what media?
[22:45] <UntouchableMX> its a usb wifi card
[22:46] <fccf> UntouchableMX: then lsusb -- chances are though you should buy a compatible usb card
[22:46] <UntouchableMX> well i know that it works with other linux distributions
[22:46] <UntouchableMX> like wifislax
[22:47] <mdm> and I was wrong xfs only goes to 8 exabytes
[22:47] <Detrix> How do I test whether my laptops microphone is working? is there an app for that?
[22:48] <aliean> mdm: Gotta check on that. I have a 16-disk machine that is connected to a 16-disk SAS though a RAID card (Abardeene)
[22:48] <UntouchableMX> well brb gotta restart to get the lsusb info
[22:48] <undadecor> Detrix:  Applications > Sound & Video > Sound Recorder
[22:48] <Detrix> undadecor: duh!!!  Doh!!! thanx...sheesh
[22:49] <mdm> aliean: you might also want to chop that array down into smaller luns too
[22:49] <Detrix> ok, nope. its not working.  argh.
[22:50] <aliean> like 2-14TB or smaller?
[22:50] <mdm> yes
[22:50] <undadecor> Detrix: what computer/mic do you have?
[22:50] <aliean> mdm: even though it's raided?
[22:50] <mdm> I dont know what you are using them for, so to give you a more precise answer i would have to have more information
[22:51] <aliean> mdm: data server and back up server. Also apt-proxy for the rest of the machines
[22:51] <mdm> aliean: yes I have conncted several linux boxes with mutiple luns to very large arrays
[22:52] <zabapuen> ola
[22:52] <zabapuen> hay
[22:52] <zabapuen> hello
[22:52] <aliean> mdm: Thanks for your help
[22:53] <mdm> aliean: your welcome but I havnt done much :)
[22:53] <aliean> mdm: still, thanks. later
[22:54] <the-showx> can anyone help me to resolve www.blackshotonline.com ? my dns got troubled
[22:54] <zabapuen> salut
[22:54] <Linux_newb> thanks for k3rn3l, now my wlan is working right :P
[22:54] <mdm> www.blackshotonline.com. 5600	IN	A	203.116.154.34
[22:55] <the-showx> k, thanks
[22:55] <Linux_newb> Anyone knows how to disable this automatic wlan search thing
[22:56] <Linux_newb> always when ḯ'm booting ubuntu its starts searching wlan network
[22:57] <Jager> i installed ubuntu 9.04 and everything is fine except any sound is played back through my laptops sub, instead of the speakers, anyone know how to fix this?
[22:58] <Linux_newb> ;O
[22:58] <Drknezz> hi!, did the ext3 FS change in Jaunty, since i use it, Windows won't recognize my ext3 partitions, IFS driver installed
[22:59] <critt> in #ubuntu
[22:59] <critt> oops...
[23:00] <XLV> Drknezz, what you mean fs change? ext4?
[23:01] <critt> running from the 8.10 live cd, how can one obtain root to update the virus deffinitions in ClamAV to scan a usb drive?
[23:01] <Drknezz> !chroot ctritt
[23:01] <Drknezz> !chroot | ctritt
[23:02] <Drknezz> XLV, since i use jaunty windows won't recognize ext3 partitions, it tags them as "RAW"
[23:02] <Drknezz> Even tho the Ext3 drives cntrol panel recognizes em
[23:02] <luis_> hola tengo un problema grabe estoy difunciendo ubuntu 9.04
[23:03] <Drknezz> !español | luis
[23:03] <Drknezz> !spanish | luis
[23:03] <BrekMekk> Hello, Vegar.. How are you today, i kill you.
[23:03] <luis_> el problema es que ingreso con gnome-rdp
[23:03] <Drknezz> !spanish | luis
[23:03] <luis_> a una maquina remoto
[23:03] <josefig> luis_, u got it?
[23:03] <luis_> ok
[23:03] <luis_> gracias
[23:04] <Mike_lifeguard> if you do 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' how long should X take to restart?
[23:04] <Drknezz> Mike_lifeguard, depends on HW, decent machines would only take a couple of seconds for that
[23:05] <Mike_lifeguard> so if I'm waiting a few minutes, that's probably encountered some problem then?
[23:05] <Drknezz> yeah
[23:05] <Mike_lifeguard> last time I tried that I gave it like 5 minutes :\
[23:05] <szymon_g> hi
[23:05] <genii> Mike_lifeguard: Try alt-f7 to make sure you're not in wrong console
[23:05] <Drknezz> Mike_lifeguard, try pressong Ctrl+Alt+F1 and reviewing the logs
[23:06] <XLV> Drknezz, cant find anything in google about it
[23:06] <Mike_lifeguard> genii: I'm using a terminal from within my graphical session... should I do ctrl-alt-f2 to do this?
[23:06] <_user_> hey guys when ever i sudo apt-get i recieve http://pastebin.com/m31903373
[23:06] <_user_> plz help
[23:06] <Mike_lifeguard> oh, f1 is another tty :)
[23:06] <Mike_lifeguard> I thought that was reserved for something else...
[23:06] <genii> Mike_lifeguard: Restarting gdm from inside the gui doesn't probably work
[23:06] <Drknezz> XLV :(
[23:06] <Mike_lifeguard> ah, well let's give this another try then... properly :D
[23:07] <Drknezz> Mike_lifeguard, yes, try "dmesg"
[23:07] <Jack_Sparrow> _user_ read up on adding the gpg key for unsupported repos and turn off any other package manager like synaptic
[23:08] <Chase_> I've built and installed the ubuntu kernel with one tiny patch I needed for my hw, and I used the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile, but now when I run apt-get upgrade it seems to want to reinstall the kernel
[23:08] <mdm> _user_: sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com D739676F7613768D
[23:08] <Chase_> how do I get it to realize that the kernel is already installed?
[23:08] <Jack_Sparrow> genii If he was trying to install new video drivers that did not work from there either
[23:08] <genii> Jack_Sparrow: Yup
[23:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Chase_  there is #KErnel that might also have info for you
[23:09] <_user_> mdm worked thank you !!
[23:10] <Chase_> Jack_Sparrow: isn't that a general kernel channel though?
[23:10] <Chase_> not ubuntu specific?
[23:10] <Drknezz> Chase_, go into synaptic, and find your kernel package, then right-click it -> Force version
[23:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Chase_ yep.  What were you trying to add to the kernel
[23:10] <Chase_> I was trying to add this: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12814
[23:10] <mrwes> Anyone having sound issues with VLC rc+1 Goldeneye?
[23:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Chase_ Just say what it is I dont want to go there
[23:10] <Chase_> it was hosing up my hd performance most likely due to irq issues
[23:10] <Mike_lifeguard> Drknezz: well, it only took a second, but killed my graphical session (which I guess is normal)... but what is dmesg for?
[23:11] <mamoul> hey buddies
[23:11] <Chase_> it's a small patch for the cx88 tuner chips
[23:11] <Drknezz> Mike_lifeguard, it show the latest kernel messages
[23:11]  * Mike_lifeguard gives it a try...
[23:11] <Chase_> it sets an irq mask during one of the functions
[23:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Chase_ Are you running ubuntu or mythbuntu etc
[23:11] <Chase_> ubuntu
[23:11] <Chase_> though, running mythtv on top
[23:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Chase_ Cant help.. sorry
[23:12] <Chase_> np
[23:13] <roadi> well i am trying to debootrstrap ubuntu but i am getting the error message that some deb files are missing - i am using the http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu ... so why are debs missing with the default 'settings' of debootstrap?
[23:14] <eseven73> How do I allow anonymous sftp?
[23:14] <roadi> batw i would install ubuntu on the normal way but everytime i install it from cd i get an error that the checksum of the one debfile is wrong...
[23:16] <junx0r> what ubuntu version/distro should i use if i am going to use it on a desktop with no video card and used for storing mp3s/docs/pictures and maybe a wow server? desktop vs server? and would it be possible to install it remotely to said desktop with no video card?
[23:16] <junx0r> ;D
[23:17] <Chase_> Drknezz: I don't know what "Force version" is supposed to do, but it didn't help
[23:17] <tlvb> is the rtorrent schedule timestamps in seconds by default? (so, setting a schedule interval of 300 would be five minutes?)
[23:17] <Drknezz> Unusual, anyways....
[23:17]  * Drknezz is AFK
[23:19] <ZykoticK9> eseven73, "anonymous" access would sort of defeat the purpose of using an encrypted connection.  I have never heard of anyone using SFTP as a direct replacement for Anonymous FTP access.  ??? sort of an interesting idea.
[23:21] <Paddy_EIRE> Hey could anyone tell me where I can get my hands on the ubuntu-classroom .ics (calendar)?
[23:21] <fccf> !ubuntu-classroom
[23:22] <eseven73> ZykoticK9, yeah I know it sounds silly, I just don't want to have FTP for anyone, I would rather it be more secure like sftp
[23:23] <Shooree> hi, would anyone know how to recuperate from a particularly horrible upgrade that left me without X server and window frames?
[23:24] <ZykoticK9> Shooree, start by trying to run "metacity --replace" in a terminal - perhaps that will bring your Windows Manager back.  Good luck.
[23:25] <UntouchableMX> hey guys
[23:25] <Shooree> ZykoticK9, hi. I'm using compiz and emerald. tried reloading and restarting both them and the system dozens of times
[23:25] <UntouchableMX> hey fccf are you still here?
[23:25] <ericrost> Just upgraded my laptop from hardy to jaunty and I had a manual configuration for my wifi under hardy, now under jaunty, network manager applet just says device not managed although the manual config is apparently obeyed since wifi still works
[23:25] <ZykoticK9> Shooree, are you missing TitleBars on windows etc?
[23:25] <Paddy_EIRE> Shooree: have you tried installing ubuntu-desktop?
[23:25] <ericrost> any idea how to fix?
[23:25] <ericrost> so that I can edit the config again
[23:26] <InfectedWithDrew> Hey everyone, I want to create a bootable Ubuntu flash drive that doesn't revert to default settings after a reboot, how do I do that?
[23:26] <Paddy_EIRE> Shooree: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:26] <harrisony> ericrost: look in /etc/network/interfaces and pastbin it please
[23:26] <Shooree> Paddy_EIRE, ok
[23:26] <UntouchableMX> !pastbin
[23:26] <Shooree> ZykoticK9, yes
[23:26] <harrisony> !pastebin | ericrost
[23:26] <UntouchableMX> !pastebin
[23:26] <darlek> sudo apt-get pastebinit
[23:27] <Xodiac13> is there anyway i can get a 64bit avast
[23:27] <darlek> you have to do that first, then you can pipe output to pastebinit
[23:27] <m1dlg> my computer is not showing my DVD drive anymore what can I do to fix it?
[23:27] <robin> R013lN
[23:27] <harrisony> Xodiac13: do you have to use avast, clamav works well
[23:27] <UntouchableMX> fccf are you still in?
[23:27] <ericrost> http://pastebin.com/m6684bd46
[23:27] <harrisony> darlek: it can be easier but you dont need to
[23:27] <Xodiac13> harrisony: how do i get the clamav 64bit
[23:27] <ZykoticK9> Shooree, until you get the X thing worked out, Compiz/Emerald isn't going to work.  so if you want titlebars while troubleshooting the metacity replace will correct the titlebar issue - nothing else though, you still have the whole xorg driver problem...
[23:27] <fccf>  UntouchableMX: I am here
[23:28] <Justin10ec> Is there a uTorrent equivalent for Ubuntu? I want something where I can set the upload limit and upload slots...
[23:28] <ericrost> I blanked the key obviously
[23:28] <UntouchableMX> ok heres the lsusb http://paste.ubuntu.com/186079/
[23:28] <harrisony> Xodiac13: if your running 64bit ubuntu- sudo apt-get install clamav works
[23:28] <morghanphoenix> I have a question about compiz-fusion.
[23:28] <morghanphoenix> I remember a setting to disable the animations when I raised or lowered a window with beryl, like yakuake so it drops down from the top like it was intended to rather than appears in a poof, but I can't seem to find that setting in ccsm.
[23:28] <harrisony> Justin10ec: transmission, its included with ubuntu
[23:28] <m1dlg> I use Utorrent under Wine all the time
[23:28] <darlek> Justin10ec, try deluge?
[23:28] <morghanphoenix> ktorrent
[23:28] <harrisony> ericrost: so do you want to be using networkmanager or not
[23:28] <morghanphoenix> clostes to utorrent
[23:29] <Xodiac13> harrisony: it said could not find package works
[23:29] <harrisony> morghanphoenix: also requires KDE which can be bulky :)
[23:29] <morghanphoenix> just a few libs
[23:29] <ericrost> I do, I used to leave it in the "manual config" option because it was easy to have two profiles, sans that option, I'll use network manager
[23:29] <darlek> Justin10ec, I can set limits and upload slots with deluge, the others are more basic
[23:29] <morghanphoenix> but if you're really limited on space I can see how it could be a problem
[23:29] <harrisony> ericrost: ok, get rid of the first 3 lines and then restart networkmanager and all is good
[23:29] <morghanphoenix> Deluge is the closest that doesn't need kde libs
[23:29] <ericrost> thought so after you pointed me there, thx!
[23:29] <Justin10ec> darlek: What repo do I need to add?
[23:30] <bogdan_> hello there, i am trying to customize my ubuntu like mac , more exactly i want to install mac doc but i cannot, every time when i try to install the packges i get this error: he following packages have unmet dependencies.
[23:30] <bogdan_>   avant-window-navigator-bzr: Depends: libawn0-bzr (= 0.3.1.bzr489.3~hardy) but it is not going to be installed
[23:30] <bogdan_>                               Depends: libgnome-desktop-2 (>= 1:2.22) but it is not installable
[23:30] <bogdan_>   awn-core-applets-bzr: Depends: libawn0-bzr but it is not going to be installed
[23:30] <Xodiac13> harrisony: is there another av i could use thats 64bit for ubuntu
[23:30] <InfectedWithDrew> Hey everyone, how do I make a bootable USB drive that doesn't revert its settings after reboot?
[23:30] <bogdan_>                         Depends: libffi4 but it is not installable
[23:30] <FloodBot3> bogdan_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:30] <bogdan_>                         Depends: libgnome-desktop-2 (>= 1:2.22) but it is not installable
[23:30] <darlek> Justin10ec, just sudo aptitude install deluge works for me
[23:30] <fccf> UntouchableMX: That card has been known to work .. sorry I cannot help further
[23:30] <Xodiac13> harrisony: is there another av i could use thats 64bit for ubuntu
[23:30] <eseven73> Haha if a person was low on space, what business do they have using a Torrent client anyways.
[23:30] <harrisony> Xodiac13: wait please
[23:30] <UntouchableMX> ok thanks
[23:30] <Xodiac13> harrisony: k sorry
[23:30] <bogdan_> Recommends: python-awn-bzr but it is not going to be installed
[23:31] <genii> !paste | bogdan_
[23:31] <itshorty> hey, why w and uptime shows "0 users" when i am logged in via ssh
[23:31] <morghanphoenix> I have a very limited space system, saves torrents to network storage, no room for kdelibs,it uses deluge.
[23:31] <bogdan_> can anyone help me on how to customize my ubuntu too like like mac doc
[23:31] <harrisony> bogdan_: avant window manager
[23:31] <mib_kfgmcmum> how do I update to 9.04 from the disc?  I already have the disc burned and inserted into the drive
[23:31] <ZykoticK9> InfectedWithDrew, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[23:31] <Justin10ec> darlek: Thanks, I got it.
[23:31] <bogdan_> every time when i try to to this command i get an error
[23:31] <InfectedWithDrew> Thank you ZykotiK9 :)
[23:31] <harrisony> Xodiac13: do you have the universe repo enabled?
[23:31] <bogdan_> sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator-bzr awn-core-applets-bzr awn-manager-bzr
[23:32] <InfectedWithDrew> Er, ZykoticK9 >_<
[23:32] <harrisony> mib_kfgmcmum: live cd or alternate
[23:32] <morghanphoenix> There's also mac icons on gnomelook
[23:32] <bogdan_> like this The following packages have unmet dependencies. avant-window-navigator-bzr: Depends: libawn0-bzr (= 0.3.1.bzr489.3~hardy) but it is not going to be installed
[23:32] <eseven73> morghanphoenix, Im on very low space myself, most of the time I just use my external usb hd for big stuff, and try to watch what I download.
[23:32] <harrisony> bogdan_: do you have any external repo's enabled?
[23:32] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I tell if I'm using an  Intel 8xx chipset?
[23:32] <Xodiac13> harrisony: i dont know
[23:33] <m1dlg> I can't see my DVD drive anymore - Any ideas?
[23:33] <harrisony> Xodiac13: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:33] <bogdan_> i did enable the repo but some of them give me errors
[23:33] <harrisony> bogdan_: can you pastebin what happens when you run sudo apt-get update
[23:33] <Xodiac13> harrisony: i dont even know how to do that
[23:33] <bogdan_> k
[23:33] <bogdan_> wait
[23:33] <mib_kfgmcmum> livecd
[23:33] <harrisony> mib_kfgmcmum: last time i checked you cant upgrade from a live cd
[23:34] <mib_kfgmcmum> hmmmm, its listed in my software sources
[23:34] <darlek> Mike_lifeguard, lshw will list your hardware
[23:34] <bogdan_> this is one erro Reading package lists... Done
[23:34] <bogdan_> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 7D2C7A23BF810CD5
[23:34] <harrisony> bogdan_: what PPA is  that from
[23:34] <bogdan_> this is the next one W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[23:34] <Haraball> trying to install kubuntu 64-bit, but i'm getting errno 5 (input/output error). The cd is checked and is fine, and the drive should be good also.. What could be wrong?
[23:34] <bogdan_> i don't know, i get this error all the time i run the update command
[23:34] <harrisony> bogdan_: can you pastebin your sources.list for me then
[23:35] <bogdan_> wait
[23:35] <harrisony> Xodiac13: in a terminal, run 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit'  and then  'cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit' and it will give you a link
[23:35] <bogdan_> sudo apt-get update
[23:35] <bogdan_> Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty Release.gpg
[23:35] <bogdan_> Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Translation-en_GB
[23:35] <bogdan_> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com jaunty-security Release.gpg
[23:35] <bogdan_> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com jaunty-security/main Translation-en_GB
[23:35] <FloodBot3> bogdan_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:35] <bogdan_> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com jaunty-security/restricted Translation-en_GB
[23:35] <harrisony> bogdan_: please use a pastebin
[23:35] <morghanphoenix> he just doesn't learn, does he?
[23:35] <InfectedWithDrew> ZykoticK9: this article seems to imply that usb-creator makes a persistent (I think that's what I'm looking for) drive.  Is this true?  If so, I will just run that.
[23:35] <Anacranom> !paste | bogdan_
[23:35] <darlek> well so much for bogdan haahhaaaaa
[23:35] <harrisony> morghanphoenix: yeah
[23:35] <mdm> !gpg
[23:35] <Starcraftmazter> http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=pg
[23:36] <Xodiac13> harrisony: okay
[23:36] <darlek> it's too late he got banned
[23:36] <Harold_parker> morning
[23:36] <harrisony> glad we have floodbot :)
[23:36] <Harold_parker> cron was just updated right? cos rkhunter is giving me a warning after i just updated
[23:36] <bash247> hey guys, i just downloaded ubuntu and was wondering if it was ok for me to burn it on a dvd, will it still work?
[23:36] <harrisony> bash247: yep
[23:36] <darlek> yeah I like the floodbot.  good floodbot good
[23:36] <Harold_parker> yes bash, burn it as an image
[23:36] <erUSUL> darlek: muted only
[23:36] <Anacranom> glad he wasn't asked for dmesg ;-)
[23:36] <chaos2fu> yes it will work
[23:36] <morghanphoenix> I miss beryl, it just seemed better than compiz-fusion, I know there's some new toys now but it seemed easier and oddly enough more stable then.
[23:36] <harrisony> Anacranom: oh god :P
[23:36] <bash247> thnks guys
[23:36] <Xodiac13> harrisony: i did it
[23:36] <chaos2fu> enjoy...;-)
[23:37] <mdm> hmm there really should be a bot command for this but the command to add a missing key is this gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv <key>
[23:37] <Harold_parker> so the cron code was just updated this morning right?
[23:37] <harrisony> Xodiac13: can you copy and paste the link iy gave you
[23:37] <bogdan_> go here http://paste.ubuntu.com/186083/
[23:37] <Xodiac13> harrisony: what do i do know
[23:37] <ZykoticK9> InfectedWithDrew, that is the impression I got as well - I've actually never tried making a persistent drive before, so can't give any 1st hand knowledge
[23:37] <Xodiac13> harrisony: yeah
[23:37] <m1dlg> I can't see my DVD drive anymore - Any ideas?
[23:37] <harrisony> Harold_parker: yes iirc
[23:37] <harrisony> m1dlg: what model drive is it
[23:37] <Xodiac13> harrisony: http://pastebin.com/f7688a479
[23:37] <InfectedWithDrew> ZykoticK9: thank you, I will try that, then.
[23:37] <Harold_parker> nice, thanks harrisony, this rk warning will be cos of that i'll bet
[23:37] <Harold_parker> thanks mate
[23:37] <m1dlg> don't know, possibly a HP or a Sony, internat EIDE type
[23:37] <harrisony> bogdan_: replace the lines that say gutsy witth jaunty (or remove them)
[23:38] <m1dlg> * Internal EIDE
[23:38] <bogdan_> so i need to edit the file
[23:38] <darlek> erUSUL, what's that?  I think the ubottu on pastebin has to be updated to include the install commands plus an example.  It would be two lines that would have prevented that
[23:38] <Mike_lifeguard> If I'm using jaunty, should I have intrepid-backports in my sources.list?
[23:38] <harrisony> Mike_lifeguard: nope
[23:38] <harrisony> Xodiac13: hmmm ok
[23:38] <Xodiac13> harrisony: whats that
[23:38] <morghanphoenix> have you restarted m1dlg? I've had one disappear because something crashed, was back when I restarted.I know it'saverty windows answer,but I don't knowthe process that crashed to restartjust it.
[23:38] <erUSUL> darlek: install comands for what ? pastebinit ?
[23:39] <Mike_lifeguard> so should I replace "deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports main restricted universe multiverse" with something for jaunty?
[23:39] <erUSUL> darlek: it gives the url of the oficial pastebin
[23:39] <mdm> !apt-key
[23:39] <m1dlg> Stopped showing on the panel a week or 2 ago, rebooted several times since
[23:39] <harrisony> Xodiac13: what do you need the antivirus scanning for
[23:39] <Xodiac13> harrisony: i have wine
[23:39] <itshorty> !w
[23:39] <darlek> erUSUL,  I know but a simple usage example.  so 'after install use pastebinit like this...' etc  might even be followed.  Nobody reads
[23:39] <genii> mdm: man apt-key
[23:39] <morghanphoenix> can you still mount it in a consoole?
[23:40] <Xodiac13> harrisony: i just switched today because i was tired of windoze vista
[23:40] <harrisony> Mike_lifeguard: replace intrepid-backports with jaunty-backports , apt-get update and then upgrade and all will be good
[23:40] <m1dlg> I think it might be after I disconnected several other attached HDD's before
[23:40] <Mike_lifeguard> thanks, harrisony
[23:40] <mdm> thanks genii but its not for me, its for those pastebins were they are missing the PPA keys
[23:40] <Xodiac13> harrisony: i got a bot on there that it couldnt remove
[23:40] <erUSUL> darlek: you can update the paste factoid if you want. just msg ubottu like this « /msg ubottu paste is <reply>New text here ....... »
[23:41] <genii> !gpgerr | mdm
[23:41] <mdm> I personnly still get them via keyserv with gpg then import them
[23:41] <Starcraftmazter> http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=pgerr+|+mdm
[23:41] <m1dlg> what would it be called? dvd1 ?
[23:41] <bogdan_> my file looks like this now http://paste.ubuntu.com/186086/
[23:41] <mdm> or apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com  <key>
[23:41] <harrisony> Xodiac13: so you want t oget rid of the virus on your windows partition
[23:41] <erUSUL> darlek: the edit will be frowarded to #ubuntu maighty gods er... operators
[23:41] <retsam> how to install the driver for nvidia 9800m gtx sli?
[23:42] <Xodiac13> harrisony: i cant i did an entire wipe of my hd and put ubuntu on
[23:42] <erUSUL> !ati | retsam
[23:42] <ruben> what's up!!!!¿¿
[23:42] <Xodiac13> harrisony: i hate vista
[23:42] <morghanphoenix> So, does anyone know how to make compiz-fusion NOT affect one window only, guake (the drop down console for gnome), really annoying that it doesn't slide like it should with fusion active.
[23:42] <retsam> ok, thx
[23:42] <dft> I want to install rsyslogd but it when select from synaptic it wants to remove ubuntu-minimal...which seems unadvisable
[23:42] <Mike_lifeguard> morghanphoenix: there is #compiz-fusion :)
[23:42] <Decessus> what apt-get command do I use to reinstall a program?
[23:42] <Guest1624> que tal?
[23:42] <Guest1624> algun españoL!?
[23:42] <retsam> sip
[23:42] <harrisony> Xodiac13: I hate vista to :P, so are you just looking-for a general anti-virus for linux or
[23:42] <Guest1624> jajaja
[23:42] <Guest1624> aqui hay variedad
[23:42] <dft> how can add rsyslogd without affecting ubuntu-minimal
[23:42] <Guest1624> :D
[23:42] <Xodiac13> harrisony: yeah
[23:43] <Mike_lifeguard> !es | Guest1624
[23:43] <retsam> hablo español pero soy de colombia
[23:43] <Harold_parker> openssl will update with a standard apt-get update/upgrade right?
[23:43] <genii> !es | retsam
[23:43] <morghanphoenix> Nothere isn't Mike_lifeguard,only compiz, at least on FreeNode.
[23:43] <harrisony> Xodiac13: you dont need an anti-virus for linux for the desktop
[23:43] <bogdan_> now i run the update command and i get another error, something with 404 http://paste.ubuntu.com/186088/
[23:43] <darlek> erUSUL, pastebinit and paste.ubuntu.com are different uses, so piping the output of a terminal command to pastebinit is easier than copy paste.  YMMV
[23:43] <Guest1624> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[23:43] <harrisony> dft: you cant
[23:43] <Drikan> !blue ray
[23:43] <ZykoticK9> morghanphoenix, I tried using quake under compiz too - and it look crappy!  i never found a fix - just quit using quake (which is very cool)
[23:43] <Xodiac13> harrisony: why is that i have wine and i heard that wine can get viruses
[23:43] <Mike_lifeguard> morghanphoenix: #compiz then (-fusion used to redirect there)
[23:43] <Anacranom> Decessus, try sudo apt-cache search <app-name> for a list of packages
[23:43] <harrisony> dft: as your removing the existing log daemon which is under ubuntu-minimal
[23:44] <Drikan> !blueray
[23:44] <dft> harrisony: I can't install it along side and just disable one and enable the other as I can do on other distros
[23:44] <harrisony> Xodiac13: wine can get viruses but only if your running evil programs under it
[23:44] <erUSUL> darlek: as i said you are free to propose better wording/instructions for the factoid. this is a comunity effort everyone can contribute
[23:44] <retsam> somebody have used Quartus on ubuntu?
[23:44] <darlek> ok
[23:44] <Harold_parker> openssl will update with a standard apt-get update/upgrade right?
[23:44] <harrisony> dft: nope
[23:44] <Drikan> has any one gotten blue ray movies working on there Ubuntu system?
[23:44] <erUSUL> !patebinit | darlek
[23:44] <harrisony> Harold_parker: yep
[23:44] <morghanphoenix> Yeah, Evidently it is "Focus Animation" but I can't find how to make it ignore just the one.
[23:44] <Xodiac13> harrisony: i am only running games like dod source, team fortress 2, and so on
[23:44] <Harold_parker> awesome, thanks alot harrisony
[23:45] <harrisony> Xodiac13: yeah dont worry about an anti virus then :)
[23:45] <Anacranom> !pastebinit
[23:45] <Decessus> Anacranom, I know the name of the package, just not the command, i.e. apt-get install to install, but what's the one for reinstalling
[23:45] <harrisony> http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FRestrictedFormats%2FBluRayAndHDDVD&ei=7VkkSpbbC4Lg7AP8suzgBA&usg=AFQjCNGIJGl9Ypdqk-PBok7vxxSVOnEXLg
[23:45] <dft> how can I get a listing of what will be removed when unistalling minimal..will my system be rendered useless?
[23:45] <harrisony> errhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[23:45] <faryshta> Hi, someone can help me to use aircrack?
[23:45] <harrisony> dft: when you run apt-get install rsyslog it wil show you what it  wants to remove
[23:45] <mdm> Decessus: do you mean dpkg-reconfigure?
[23:45] <harrisony> faryshta: yes
[23:45] <Xodiac13> harrisony: okay
[23:46] <retsam> do it
[23:46] <Anacranom> Decessus, sudo apt-get remove package and then sudo apt-get install package
[23:46] <bogdan_> harrysony can u please help me out
[23:46] <harrisony> bogdan_: with what
[23:46] <joaopinto> dft, ubuntu-minimal is just a metapackage, removing it will not remove it's described packages
[23:46] <joaopinto> if you remove a package listed on the meta package, the meta package will be removed
[23:47] <bogdan_> i did what u told me and after i runt the sudo apt-get update command i get another error which is this http://paste.ubuntu.com/186088/
[23:47] <Decessus> ty mdm
[23:47] <dft> joaopinto: I understand so other than the listed associated real packages nothing will be affected?
[23:47] <harrisony> bogdan_: get rid of the lines with http://ppa.launchpad.net/reacocard-awn/
[23:47] <mdm> !gpgerr | bogdan_
[23:47] <Starcraftmazter> http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=pgerr+|+bogdan_
[23:47] <Anacranom> Decessus, ahh- sorry was not understanding you fully
[23:48] <mdm> thanks genii :)
[23:48] <joaopinto> dfgas, right
[23:48] <genii> mdm: Anytime :)
[23:48] <joaopinto> ops, was dft
[23:48] <dft> np just looking at the keyboard for the relation of those typos
[23:48] <dft> joaopinto, harrisony ty
[23:49] <filosofixit> is here someone who uses/have used the g15mpd plugin for g15Daemon?
[23:50] <harrisony> filosofixit: ive usedit before, it was buggy
[23:50] <Mike_lifeguard> how can I tell if I'm using an i386 or amd64 system? I know those refer to processor types, but... that's about it :\
[23:51] <filosofixit> harrisony : hehe, I am strugling with a bug with myself :)
[23:51] <erUSUL> Mike_lifeguard: what you wamt to know? if you have 32 or 64 bit ubuntu installed ? or if you have a 64 bit capable cpu ?
[23:51] <filosofixit> harrisony: did you get it to work at all?
[23:51] <harrisony> Mike_lifeguard: uname -m
[23:51] <harrisony> filosofixit: i got it working, but it was just total fail
[23:51] <bogdan_> ok cheers, now another one after i run sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator-bzr awn-core-applets-bzr awn-manager-bzr  http://paste.ubuntu.com/186093/
[23:52] <Mike_lifeguard> harrisony: whee! it tells me something that's not one of the options :D (i686)
[23:52] <filosofixit> harrisony : ok, I think I will just leave it then :) thnx
[23:52] <harrisony> Mike_lifeguard: thats 32 bit
[23:53] <harrisony> bogdan_: yep wait
[23:53] <Mike_lifeguard> so if I want linux-headers, go with i386?
[23:53] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> Hello ! need some file from ubuntu 9.04 apache //etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default
[23:53] <bogdan_> k
[23:53] <Mike_lifeguard> or maybe I'll just ask synaptic...
[23:53] <harrisony> bogdan_: sudo  apt-get install avant-window-navigator
[23:53] <erUSUL> Mike_lifeguard: bit 64 and 32 bit have linux-headers
[23:53] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> Please help me!
[23:54] <histo> Mike_lifeguard: both have them.
[23:54] <ikus060> Hi, I'm using Jaunty 9.04 for a while and the poor performance of the compoziting (compiz or metacity) with the ATI open driver make me sick. Is there any solution ????
[23:54] <harrisony> [DeViL_KiLLs]: best bet is to go to #ubuntu-server
[23:54] <harrisony> ikus060: used the closed source driver
[23:54] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> harrisony: thanks
[23:54] <heidi> Hello =) ubuntu does not recognize my camera can anyone help please
[23:54] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> but i use desktop edition
[23:54] <harrisony> ikus060: its evil but its the truth
[23:54] <histo> heidi: does it show anything in lsusb
[23:54] <ikus060> harrisony: My card are no more supported by the fglrx driver
[23:54] <erUSUL> !webcam | heidi
[23:55] <Anacranom> [DeViL_KiLLs], but thats a server app
[23:55] <harrisony> [DeViL_KiLLs]: the server team know apache and stuff like that
[23:55] <genii> [DeViL_KiLLs]: If /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default exists, just edit it. It normally is there unless you've deleted it or so
[23:55] <harrisony> ikus060: what model card
[23:55] <Mike_lifeguard> erUSUL, histo: OK, perhaps I'm dense... It says: "1. Download & install the 2.6.29.4 kernel, based on your architecture: i386 users:...stuff... amd64 users:... stuff" but  i686!=i386 and != amd64 :)
[23:55] <ikus060> harrisony: Radeon X300 (M22)
[23:55] <histo> [DeViL_KiLLs]: also if you do a locate i'm sure there is an example somewhere in /usr/share/docs
[23:56] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> i loss this file .. and dont have a backup
[23:56] <erUSUL> Mike_lifeguard: i686 == i386 in that context
[23:56] <InfectedWithDrew> I am having a problem deleting a partition on my mp3 player.  Here is my error.
[23:56] <Mike_lifeguard> erUSUL: k, thought so. thanks
[23:56] <InfectedWithDrew> Sorry, hit enter too early.  Having a problem deleting a partition on my mp3 player, here is my error: http://pastebin.com/d6bbbc778
[23:56] <harrisony> ikus060: sorry man, not much we can do then (i dont think)
[23:56] <harrisony> anyway I better be off
[23:57] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> genii: 000-default empty and apache does work :S
[23:57] <ikus060> harrisony: I'm not the only one it that situation .. I can't imagine this hundred of people having bad performance with Jaunty ..
[23:57] <bintrue|work> There must be a better place to ask this but, Anyone know why nmap -sP would be missing hosts that I can ping manually?
[23:58] <Drknezz> !hacking | bintrue|work
[23:58] <bintrue|work> not hacking... ping sweeps have legitimate uses...
[23:58] <m1dlg> I'm back after a reboot and problem of DVD drive not appearing still there, I managed to fix one error in fsab though :) but I guess the error is deeper with my DVD though. I include fstb in this http://pastebin.com/d5101d5d0 Can anyone look and see if there is an obvious problem to the more skilled eyes please
[23:58] <Drknezz> bintrue|work, net/port scanning....
[23:59] <ikus060> bintrue|work: look at the map page, -sP force to ping the host before ..
[23:59] <Anacranom> Linux != windows*man
[23:59] <darlek> erUSUL, ok, I've sent my ubottu request in..
[23:59] <genii> [DeViL_KiLLs]: May also want to ask in #httpd    (the apache channel)
[23:59] <ikus060> bintrue|work: try nmap with a different argument then ..