[11:00] So, Upstart 1.0 comes out this week, right? :-P [11:01] Along with apt-sync, KMS for my video adapter, Gnome 3 and all the other exciting things. === notting_ is now known as notting === notting_ is now known as notting [21:44] Keybuk: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/728_german-specifics-of-austria-and-german-speaking-switzerland [21:44] Keybuk: is this topical? [21:44] it almost looks like spam, but I don't see a phishing link [21:46] yeah... the wiki is under some sort of attack [21:46] ion_: would you know how to proceed? [21:47] I’d just restore an earlier backup of the database. :-P [21:47] To stop the attack, well... [21:48] Require a wiki admin to approve new users? [21:48] ion_: I was hoping you had some sort of access to put into effect these measures [21:48] Nope [21:48] also moin sux use mediawiki [21:48] but that's OT [21:49] I’m not saying moin doesn’t suck, but mediawiki sucks badly as well. :-P [21:49] it sucks less [21:50] Let’s just use Google Wave for the wiki when it comes out. :-P I’m sure someone will hack up a web UI for Wave that looks just like a wiki, but with all the benefits of the platform. [21:51] ion_: haven't looked at google wave yet [21:52] also, its The Google [21:52] * sadmac2 fears The Google [21:52] At UDS, people edit specs in realtime over the network with gobby. After UDS, they *manually* move the changes to wiki.ubuntu.com. Then random people (including me) add comments to the wiki markup (also losing the edit history – wait, i don’t think gobby even creates one). There’s no clean way to display the pure article without the comments. Wave would handle *all* of that in a single platform, and judging from the >1 hour video i watched, it handles it ... [21:52] ... very well. [21:52] Wave is an open protocol. Google doesn’t need to be involved at all. [21:52] ah cool [21:53] Whoops, i was supposed to add the comment about not getting an edit history from gobby after “manually move the changes to...” [21:53] * sadmac2 comes to the staggering realization that he can't distinguish random sequences of letters from scandinavian-language text [21:53] :-)