[11:00] <ion_> So, Upstart 1.0 comes out this week, right? :-P
[11:01] <ion_> Along with apt-sync, KMS for my video adapter, Gnome 3 and all the other exciting things.
[21:44] <sadmac2> Keybuk: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/728_german-specifics-of-austria-and-german-speaking-switzerland
[21:44] <sadmac2> Keybuk: is this topical?
[21:44] <sadmac2> it almost looks like spam, but I don't see a phishing link
[21:46] <sadmac2> yeah... the wiki is under some sort of attack
[21:46] <sadmac2> ion_: would you know how to proceed?
[21:47] <ion_> I’d just restore an earlier backup of the database. :-P
[21:47] <ion_> To stop the attack, well...
[21:48] <ion_> Require a wiki admin to approve new users?
[21:48] <sadmac2> ion_: I was hoping you had some sort of access to put into effect these measures
[21:48] <ion_> Nope
[21:48] <sadmac2> also moin sux use mediawiki
[21:48] <sadmac2> but that's OT
[21:49] <ion_> I’m not saying moin doesn’t suck, but mediawiki sucks badly as well. :-P
[21:49] <sadmac2> it sucks less
[21:50] <ion_> Let’s just use Google Wave for the wiki when it comes out. :-P I’m sure someone will hack up a web UI for Wave that looks just like a wiki, but with all the benefits of the platform.
[21:51] <sadmac2> ion_: haven't looked at google wave yet
[21:52] <sadmac2> also, its The Google
[21:52]  * sadmac2 fears The Google
[21:52] <ion_> At UDS, people edit specs in realtime over the network with gobby. After UDS, they *manually* move the changes to wiki.ubuntu.com. Then random people (including me) add comments to the wiki markup (also losing the edit history – wait, i don’t think gobby even creates one). There’s no clean way to display the pure article without the comments. Wave would handle *all* of that in a single platform, and judging from the >1 hour video i watched, it handles it ...
[21:52] <ion_> ... very well.
[21:52] <ion_> Wave is an open protocol. Google doesn’t need to be involved at all.
[21:52] <sadmac2> ah cool
[21:53] <ion_> Whoops, i was supposed to add the comment about not getting an edit history from gobby after “manually move the changes to...”
[21:53]  * sadmac2 comes to the staggering realization that he can't distinguish random sequences of letters from scandinavian-language text
[21:53] <ion_> :-)