ToStItOs_ I migrated from Ubuntu to Xubuntu if I needed to save memory space do I need to uninstall Ubuntu?01:21
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pure-xfce01:21
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce »01:22
knomethat removes ubuntu packages01:22
anom01yanyone know an alternative to kopete for xubuntu ?03:41
xxubuntucan anyone tell me how to fix the multimedia keyboard in xubuntu?04:03
ubottuTo install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository04:20
anom01ydamn facebook sucks04:21
anom01yI installed java6-jre, but facebook's games dont work in firefox, do I need to install something else ?04:24
magic_ninjaj #programming04:30
anom01yanyone here use facebook ?04:35
anom01yor play java games through facebook ?04:35
anom01ywhat is a recommended torrent program ?05:24
anzohey all06:43
anzogot a little issue. Was messing around and removed the task bar from my unit both the top and bottom. How do i bring it back?06:44
Slonkiedefine task bar?06:49
anzoi am sorry06:51
anzoits the menu bar that sits at the top and bottom of the screen06:52
anzousually called panels06:52
anzoi think06:52
SlonkieDid you try adding panels in the panels settings?06:54
anzolet me see06:56
anzoyah when i click that it just does nothing06:56
Slonkiealt+f2 type in xfce4-panel06:57
Slonkieand enter06:57
anzoawesome that did it06:57
anzothanks slonkie06:58
Slonkienp :).06:58
anzolast question is do you know how to restore them to defaults06:59
anzoi messed them up a bit and not things are all hither skither and would like to get them back to default07:00
SlonkieNo sorry. :/07:00
anzothats cool07:00
anzothats what i get for fing with it07:00
svenskois there an easy way to add launcher to the the upper panel?07:43
svenskoclick and drag doesn't work, i can manually set up a custom launcher but my computer is slow enough that searching for the icon, etc takes forever, any ideas?07:43
SiDi!info karmic libcairo208:58
ubottu'libcairo2' is not a valid distribution: dapper, dapper-backports, hardy, hardy-backports, intrepid, intrepid-backports, jaunty, jaunty-backports, karmic, karmic-backports, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, medibuntu, partner08:58
SiDi!info karmic libpango1.0.008:58
ubottu'libpango1.0.0' is not a valid distribution: dapper, dapper-backports, hardy, hardy-backports, intrepid, intrepid-backports, jaunty, jaunty-backports, karmic, karmic-backports, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, medibuntu, partner08:58
SiDi!info libpango1.0.008:59
ubottuPackage libpango1.0.0 does not exist in jaunty08:59
SiDi!info libpango1.0-0 karmic08:59
ubottulibpango1.0-0 (source: pango1.0): Layout and rendering of internationalized text. In component main, is optional. Version 1.24.2-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 311 kB, installed size 916 kB08:59
SiDi!info libcairo2 karmic08:59
ubottulibcairo2 (source: cairo): The Cairo 2D vector graphics library. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.6-1ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 496 kB, installed size 836 kB08:59
Name141If I was to make a bootable flash drive disk, would I be able to save files, update drivers, security, install programs, so on?  Or do I need to figure out how to install it directly to the flash drive rather than LIVE?10:17
Gamarok__!usb creator10:19
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about usb creator10:19
Devilsprey99ipod is not recognized in my xubuntu hardy12:40
Devilsprey99any help12:41
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about gtkpod12:44
ubottuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod12:44
Devilsprey99its not even recognized12:55
Devilsprey99i plug in the ipod touch and rhythmbox doesnot show12:56
MikeChelendoes that howto suggest rhtyhmbox?12:59
svenskofwiw, i use gtkpod13:07
svenskoMikeChelen, hey again :) i have an easier question for you this time... how can i easily add custom launchers to the top panel? i tried clicking and dragging from the applications menu but that won't work, and i _can_ set up custom launchers it's just a pain in the arse, so i'm assuming there's an easier way13:09
MikeChelensvensko, hehe yeah sort of, if you add a launcher then its possible to click + drag an app into the launcher config window, however it still can't be dragged from the menu, only from desktop or filesystem13:12
* svensko scratches head13:14
svenskobetter than nothing13:14
svenskoxubuntu is running slow on my netbook :( not sure what prompted this13:15
MikeChelenit's a little strange, im not quite sure how to customize the menu13:16
MikeChelenhmm can you see what is using up the resources?13:16
svenskofirefox is using 70 mb, evince is using 36... CPU usage is below 10% and my core is at 1.6 ghz...13:17
svenskomaybe using faster computers are just spoiling me :P13:18
MikeChelenhmm, what parts seem slow?13:18
svenskofirefox seems insanely slow loading tabs13:18
MikeCheleninstall any new addons recently?13:19
svenskoABP is the only one i use13:19
MikeChelenwhen making a new tab, is it blank or does a page load?13:20
MikeChelenon this system it takes less than 1-2 sec for new blank tab to load13:20
MikeChelenmaybe watch system monitor and see if cpu or memory spikes when doing this13:21
svenskowell if i click on a link, firefox just sorta freezes for 2 or 3 seconds before actually showing the tab13:21
MikeChelentry making a new profile and see the problem persists13:22
svenskoalright, i'll give that a try, but right now i have to run to the research lab13:24
svenskohave to sterilize some seeds before job training starts13:24
svenskoTY for the help :)13:24
MikeChelensure thing, hope you can figure it out :)13:25
MikeChelencould try another browser like epiphany meanwhile13:26
SiDiwhy do people leave when im typing answers to their questions ? :/13:38
Slonkiebecause your too slow ;).13:38
SlonkieLet me just ask you SiDi, this notify-osd keeps disappearing when i drag my mouse up on the notification.. Is it possible to make it stay even tho i take my mouse up there?13:40
SiDiIts the principle, to have it disappearing XD13:40
SiDiso you see whats below13:40
SiDithere is no way to configure this at the moment13:40
SiDiyou should wine in #ayatana if you want it to happen, but they'll more likely slap you :p13:40
SiDi(if you have compiz running, then it gently fades out, and also the transparency makes the background blur, instead of normal)13:41
SiDi!info xfce4-mixer15:38
ubottuxfce4-mixer (source: xfce4-mixer): Xfce mixer application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.0-1ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 165 kB, installed size 1056 kB15:38
Devilsprey99anyone here has worked with ipod touch on xubuntu hardy15:40
viddDevilsprey99, i have not personally used an ipod touch with anything....but what issue are you having?15:46
Devilsprey99not recognised15:47
Devilsprey99i plug in15:47
Devilsprey99when i type dmesg15:47
viddwhat does "lsusb" say?15:48
Devilsprey99it says apple computer inc15:48
Devilsprey99rhythmbox doesnot show15:48
viddso then....your system sees it15:48
Devilsprey99neither does gtkpod15:48
Devilsprey99any idea15:51
Devilsprey99on how to load a module15:51
geniiDevilsprey99: sudo modprobe modulename15:53
geniiIf there is some specific ipod one however remains to be known15:54
Devilsprey99ipod touch15:55
viddDevilsprey99, all i find is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823189 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84064815:59
vidddunno if that is helpful or not15:59
Devilsprey99vidd, i will se15:59
Devilsprey99hey anyone can tell me where does conf file of rhythmbox lies16:17
SiDiI dont have it :/16:17
SiDiprobably in .rhythmbox or in .config/rhythmbox16:18
SiDior in .gnome2/apps/rhythmbox16:18
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AcornHi, how do you tell what version of xubuntu you are running?18:18
charlie-tcatype in a terminal "lsb_release -rd"18:18
Acornand can you upgrade from an old version all the way up to the newest version? Or do you have to do multiple upgrades?18:19
SlonkieMultiple upgrades18:19
charlie-tcaYou must upgrade to each version, unless you are upgrading LTS18:19
Acornwhat is lts?18:19
charlie-tcaYou can upgrade direct from 6.06 to 8.0418:19
Acornand then to 9.04?18:19
charlie-tcano, then 8.10, then 9.0418:20
Acornah ok18:20
zoredacheif you are that far out, it may be easier to make a backup of everything and to reinstall18:20
charlie-tca6.06 is LTS, supported until june of this year for home users, servers are supported until 201118:21
zoredachethe key bit is the backup (get at least /etc/,/home/,/var/lib/dpkg)18:21
viddAcorn, this is the reason I recommend that you keep a seperate /home partition18:21
AcornI just installed from a live CD I had lying around, didn't want to have to burn a new one18:21
SiDiAcorn, what is your version at the moment ?18:21
Acornthat should be fine right? no problem with upgrading is there?18:21
Acornis there a way of checking without typing? my r key doesn't work ^^18:22
charlie-tcaI would then download the newest version, 9.04, and burn that new cd18:22
zoredachecopy and paste that command into a terminal?18:22
Acorni'm not on my xubuntu laptop18:22
SiDiAcorn, type lsb_ and then press Tab18:22
SiDiand it will autocomplete18:22
Acornah, nice18:22
viddAcorn, as far as upgrading goes, you may have some quirks dependant upon what version you currently have.18:23
SiDiAcorn, then add -a to the lsb_release18:23
SiDithat'll be enough to know18:23
SlonkieDoes anyone know when the new openoffice will be in the *ubuntu repos? :/18:23
SiDiSlonkie, in ~5 months ? :D18:23
spectreHi,I can see the top or lower menu bar in the xubuntu desktop,how can I enable it ? thanks18:23
spectreI can't see,sorry18:23
SiDispectre, do you mean the panels ?18:24
SlonkieIs that for true, SiDi ? :|18:24
viddspectre, open up a terminal and type "xfce4-panel18:24
SiDiSlonkie, probably. I dont think they'll do a SRU for OOo. Everyone uses LaTeX anyways :P18:24
AcornThink i'll just install the newest version, thanks guys18:24
SiDiyou guys scared him badly18:24
Slonkieaha, so Ill have to delete the one i've got and install the one from their site18:24
SiDiSlonkie, or, you can use the OpenOffice.org PPA ?18:25
viddSlonkie, is thiers a .deb?18:25
SlonkieAnd not everyone uses LaTeX, SiDi.. Geeks does :D18:25
Slonkieno SiDi. You remember i told you about that partial upgrade18:25
SlonkieIt wouldn't allow me to install it from their PPA18:25
viddwhat is this LaTeX you speak of?18:25
SiDiSlonkie, oh yeh18:25
SiDiSlonkie, dont use danish then xD18:25
Slonkiei don't you silly18:25
SiDividd, you dont know LaTeX ? :O18:25
Slonkiei use english18:26
SiDividd, its a language for writing scientific documents :]18:26
viddnope...im not even sure what TYPE of app it is =]18:26
SiDiyou can write a 2 pages long maths formula in LaTeX and it'll pop up perfectly readable (if you read maths ofc :p) in your pdf document generated by latex18:26
viddwell...then no wonder i have know idea about it18:26
SlonkieIt appears to be VERY confusing SiDi.18:27
viddOOo is overkill for my needs!18:27
viddmousepad is enough18:28
DetroitLibertyPeOOo Math is good!18:28
SiDiDetroitLibertyPe, you never did LaTeX, obviously :)18:28
SiDiall the math teachers use LaTeX ^^18:28
SlonkieOOo is good for High School reports etc. :D18:28
SiDiits taught to any student in french universities now18:29
DetroitLibertyPeI'm allergic to latex :-)18:29
SiDievery student is asked to make presentations and write reports / thesis in LaTeX18:29
SiDividd, http://filebin.ca/nssvzu/soutenance.pdf18:29
SiDiexample of LaTex file :P18:29
SiDimy presentation for my bittorrent client (in french though, but just so you can see what can be done with it)18:29
* charlie-tca guesses he is behind... still using gedit18:30
Slonkiedamn french sucks18:30
SiDicharlie-tca, i write my LaTeX docs with gedit :]18:30
SiDiit has a spellcheck plugin, nice search features, and a latex plugin, too :p18:30
charlie-tcaI don't nothing about LaTex, either18:30
SiDic'mon guys xD18:31
SiDiits easy as hell :P18:31
Slonkieno it's not!18:31
SlonkieIt's confusing as hell!18:31
SiDinah :P18:31
* charlie-tca glad not to be in school, too18:32
SiDiyou write \section{Foo} and you get a nice titled Foo, and it adds it to the table of contents18:32
SlonkieIt's much easier to just press a button and type :D18:32
* SiDi wrote ~60 pages of LaTeX in 5 days for his report :P18:32
SlonkieWell i'm suppose to use LaTeX next year of school too :(18:32
SiDiSlonkie, then you spend ages maintaining the aspect of your text instead of focusing on your content18:33
SiDiand then the table of figures / index / summary is a pain to write18:33
SlonkieNot really?18:33
SiDiIn latex its all automated18:33
Slonkiewell i wouldn't know how easy latex is :D18:33
SiDiall you have to do is write your text18:33
SlonkieI find it hard to remember all those different tags etc..18:33
SiDiyeh, well, of course you need to learn the tags :]18:34
SiDior use Gedit+LaTeX, or LyX18:34
SiDibut honnestly, make yourself a sample file with a few useful tags, and copy/paste18:34
SiDithatll come in no time18:34
SlonkieNext year!18:34
SiDiSee for instance if you wanna add a vectorial figure to your document :p18:35
SiDiif you export it to PNG and put the PNG in your OOO doc, it'll be ugly18:35
SiDitext will be aliased, too18:35
SlonkieI don't use vector anyway18:35
SiDiif you export your vectorised image to latex, it'll be sexy :]18:35
SiDioh, come on :p18:35
SiDixfce4-power-manager's icon naming sucks :[18:38
s1n1Hi everyone, i need support :)19:12
vidds1n1, whats up19:12
charlie-tca!question | s1n119:12
ubottus1n1: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)19:12
* charlie-tca uses a cane for support, though19:13
s1n1Is gdm-screensaver necessary for hibernate mode - I uninstalled it because the auto-login didn't work, now my hibernate mode is broken.19:13
s1n1By the way, does xubuntu even use gdm or another desktop-manager?19:15
charlie-tcaxubuntu uses gdm. It is the login screen19:15
vidds1n1, yes, GDM is used as the desktop manager19:15
charlie-tcaThe desktop manager is xfwm19:15
viddcharlie-tca, technically...isnt that the Window Manager?19:16
charlie-tcayes. sorry. desktop manager should be xfce19:16
s1n1I edited the gdm.conf in /etc/gdm/ for autologin, it didn't work19:16
viddnow IM confused....19:16
viddi thought xfce=xfwm19:16
charlie-tcaGDM is gnome display manager, used for login screen19:16
charlie-tcaxfwm is the window manager for xfce19:17
s1n1or is there a easy way to start xfce4 and autologin without gdm?19:17
s1n1would speed up my boot19:17
charlie-tcas1n1: do the settings change in Applications -> Settings -> Login Window19:18
s1n1Yeah, that works for boot, but in hibernate just the session gets locked19:18
s1n1It isnt the login screen .. just something like the screensaver lock19:19
charlie-tcaI don't think you can have auto-login from hibernate if you lock the session. It should be using the screensaver lock app19:19
s1n1so at first i should reinstall gdm-screensaver i guess19:19
charlie-tcaI guess so19:20
s1n1and then try to disable session lock, which i did under settings, but didnt work19:20
vidds1n1, go to applications->settings->screensavers19:20
vidddo you have a check mark for "lock screen when screensaver is active"?19:20
s1n1No, i disabled it ... but after hibernate it did lock19:21
s1n1I reinstall the screensaver and do some tests, coming back in 20mins :)19:21
charlie-tcaSo many people complained before that it wouldn't lock. Is it fixed now?19:24
s1n1so, hibernate works again, screensaver lock is turned of (testet it with normal screensaver) but after wake up the session is still locked19:36
DetroitLibertyPeon 9.04 is there anyway to load teh old X.org so that CTRL+ALT+Backspace and CTRL+ALT+ESC still works?19:38
viddDetroitLibertyPe, you have to use L-Alt+PrntScrn+k for the ctrl+alt+bckspc effect19:39
DetroitLibertyPe L-Alt+PrntScrn+k ?19:40
charlie-tcayou can enable Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, also19:40
DetroitLibertyPehow, charlie-tca?19:40
DetroitLibertyPevidd: ddo you mean l+ALT+PrintSCreen+k?19:41
charlie-tcaThe Ctrl-Alt-Backspace key combination to force a restart of X is now disabled by default, to eliminate the problem of accidentally triggering the key combination. Users who do want this function can enable it in their xorg.conf, or by running the command dontzap --disable.19:41
ubottuTo re-enable the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace combination that restarts your X server, you can install the "dontzap" package and use the command « sudo dontzap --disable ». The combination Alt+SysRq+K can also be used to obtain a similar effect.19:41
viddDetroitLibertyPe, no...LEFT-Alt19:41
DetroitLibertyPeis similar for CTRL+ALT+ESC?19:42
s1n1Im going to test further19:42
charlie-tcaI can't remember how to enable ctrl+alt+esc19:42
viddwhat did ctrl+alt+esc do?19:44
DetroitLibertyPebring up an 'X cursor" and you could click one window and terminate only that application19:44
DetroitLibertyPevery useful19:45
dondondoes xubuntu boot by default with compiz or some kind of X graphics accelerator?20:06
hwildeHello.  Has the theme Xfce-dusk been obsoleted in 9.04 ?   If not, where can I find it?20:06
s1n1I was able to fix the hibernate lock issue20:08
s1n1It was gnome-power-manager which locked it, gconf-editor and "lock -> use screensaver settings = true" fixed it20:09
s1n1I love xubuntu <3, best dist ever :D20:10
viddhwilde, i dont think themes get obsoleted20:12
charlie-tcadondon: no20:12
hwildevidd, well I used to have it in 8.10, and I saved it as a custom theme20:12
hwildevidd, now if I try to apply that theme it says Xfce-dusk not found20:12
charlie-tcahwilde: Ì think you have to save it again, since configuration settings changed a lot in 9.0420:13
hwildeit cannot find Xfce-dusk20:13
hwildeI also cannot find it for that matter20:13
charlie-tcaShould be in Applications -> Settings -> Appearance, first tab is Style20:14
SiDido you have xfce4-artwork installed ?20:15
hwilde"This theme will not look as intended because the required GTK+ theme 'Xfce-dusk' is not installed"20:15
SiDiAre you running xubuntu ?20:15
hwildeno, gnome20:15
hwildesame as before tho...20:16
viddhwilde, xfce-dusk is an option for me20:16
viddhwilde, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-artwork20:17
hwilde"xfce4-artwork is already the newest version."20:17
hwildewait, xubuntu-artwork is doing something...20:17
viddSiDi, xubuntu-artwork has all the "xubuntu custom" artwork and themes IIRC20:19
hwildeah here we go20:20
hwilde$ apt-file search Xfce-dusk20:20
hwildegtk2-engines-xfce: /usr/share/themes/Xfce-dusk/gtk-2.0/gtkrc20:20
viddhwilde, so xubuntu-artwork do it for ya?20:20
hwildeall that brightness was burning my eyes20:20
hwildenope that package there did it20:20
hwildethx #xubuntu20:23
hwildekeep it real20:23
Mat-Cauthonhey.. where can i find a list of names of widgets used in xfce and the attributes  that  apply to them? want to do some gtk rc editing :s21:13
viddwidgets? you mean panel apps?21:17
viddMat-Cauthon, ^^^21:17
Mat-Cauthonno, i mean gtk+ widgets21:18
mari_what is the command to open screen resolution properties GUI with root access?21:20
viddMat-Cauthon, sorry then...i wont be able to help...i dont use them21:21
viddmari_, sudo [app]21:21
mari_that did not work21:22
mari_I dont know what to write after sudo to make this work21:23
MikeChelenmari_, are you using proprietary video card drivers?21:23
viddmari_, nor do i...why would you WANT to open it with root access???21:24
mari_Just rying to make my screen resolution prefs stick.. I cant choose them fine from the screen resolution GUI, but they reset everytime I reboot21:24
MikeChelenits xfce4-display-settings21:24
mari_ok thanks, I'll try=)21:24
MikeCheleni don't think sudo will help though21:25
MikeChelenif its a per-user setting21:25
mari_hmm, how do I solve this then?21:25
MikeChelendo you know what vid card you have?21:25
viddmari_, i helped someone with this b421:25
mari_when I boot up the resolution is 1900xsomething. But I want it to be 1200x80021:26
mari_I do not know Mike:(21:26
viddMikeChelen, the vid doesnt matter21:26
mari_It's an old laptop, PB easynote21:26
MikeChelenvidd, if it were ati or nvidia might recommend installing proprietary drivers21:26
MikeChelenmaybe try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg21:27
mari_I checked for that Mike, could not see any21:27
mari_What do you suggest then Vidd?21:27
viddyou have to create a .local file21:27
viddgive me a sec and ill tell you excacty what it needs to say21:27
MikeChelenhuh ok try that then21:27
viddi have to get the data21:27
mari_You need to tell me exactly what to do with the file also. Im a newb :)21:28
viddnot a problem21:29
mari_The splash while booting up also has a much too high resolution btw. Can only see the top left half.21:30
viddmari_, in terminal type "mousepad ~/.xprofile" (no quotes of course21:31
viddtype xrandr --output VGA --mode [resolution] --rate [refresh rate]21:32
viddreplacing [stuff] with the right stuff.....21:32
viddthe --rate is not required21:33
mari_how do I know refresh rate?21:33
viddsave and restart x21:33
viddmari_, if you dont know it, dont add it21:33
viddyou can find the info here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-adjust-screen-resolution-on-ubuntu.html21:34
viddif you type xrandr in terminal, it will tell you available rates21:35
mari_just say 0.0 for 1280 by 80021:35
mari_800 by 600 sais 6021:36
viddif you want 1280 by 80021:36
mari_I made that file now, and will try to restart X when my updates finish:) By restarting X you mean reboot the computer right?21:37
viddthen xrandr --output VGA --mode 1280x80021:37
viddmari_, no...just "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart21:37
mari_oh, I jus left the rate [refresh rate] part as that. Do I have to remove it?21:37
viddrebooting the computer is overkill....but yeah...that works too (if you are upgrading the kernel you have to reboot...but not much else)21:38
mari_ok, restarting X now then:)21:39
viddmari_, yes....the {stuff] has to be replaced with actual data....or you can drop it if you do not want to use it21:39
viddwb mari_21:45
mari_hello im back.21:45
viddany luck?21:45
mari_Something went wrong:p21:45
mari_When I did that X restart, I just got a black screen and nothing happened, so I had to press the power off21:45
viddwhat does your ~/.xconfig file say?21:45
mari_I'll check21:45
mari_says: xrandr --output VGA --mode 1280x80021:46
mari_as it should21:46
viddwhen you rebooted...did the correct resolution get set?21:47
mari_I notice my GUI glitch alot, so something is probably wrong with the drivers.21:47
mari_No vidd, same as alwasy21:47
mari_And when I try to reboot, I just get a black screen saying "system haltet" and I have to press power off. :\21:48
mari_Old strange laptop hehe21:48
viddsorry...rename that file ~/.xprofile21:48
mari_my file is named xprofile:)21:49
viddthen rename it .xconfig21:49
mari_hehe ok21:49
mari_uhm, how? :X21:49
viddopen...save as21:50
mari_ok, now I reboot again?21:50
viddmari_, just restart x.... alt+sysrq+k21:51
mari_vidd, no change im affraid21:55
viddmari_, there is a specific name for this file....21:55
viddbut i have to leave (time to go home)21:55
mari_had to reboot again also, because of the huge resolution I was not able to start again after that x restart trick hehe21:55
mari_Ok, thanks for the help so far=)21:55
mari_I'll continiue search21:56
CarlisI need help22:20
CarlisHow do i run icewease browser in xubuntu ?22:20
cody-somervilleCarlis, You can't22:20
cody-somervilleCarlis, You run Firefox22:20
Carlisis there another browser in xubuntu ?22:21
Carliscody-somerville ??22:22
cody-somervilleApplications > Add/Remove22:23
Carliswhich browsers ?ç22:23
cody-somervilleOpera is one22:24
CarlisIs Opera in add/remove programs ?22:28
cody-somervilleOnly if you have partners repository enabled in Software Sources22:29
Carliswhat do i have to enable ?22:29
cody-somervilleThe partners repository22:33
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about partners22:33
ubottuThe Ubuntu partnership program is designed to encourage, recognise and endorse Ubuntu expertise and commercial initiatives. It is structured to foster a healthy ecosystem surrounding Ubuntu, to highlight those companies with certified expertise in Ubuntu and a deeper relationship to Canonical. See http://www.ubuntu.com/partners for more information.22:33
ubottuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser22:33
DetroitLibertyPehow can I create a keyboard shortcut to actiavee a command (i.e. cTRL+ALT+ESC activates xkill)22:39
CarlisThanks for ur help22:44
Mat-Cauthonhey.. where can i find a list of names of gtk-widgets used in xfce and the attributes that apply to them? want to do some gtk rc editing :s22:46
ubottuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com22:46
SiDiMat-Cauthon, pretty much anything in GTK2+ i suppose. Feel free to ask in #xfce though ;)23:09
Shooreehi, would anyone know how to recuperate from a particularly horrible upgrade that left me without X server and window frames?23:22
SiDiDo you got a shell + the internet ?23:24
SiDisudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop23:25
ShooreeI'm a noob. you're serious with that, aren't you?23:26
SiDiTry it23:26
SiDiThe main cause i'd see for a failed upgrade is that you someday removed your -desktop package by accident, while removing a default application23:26
MTec007im having problems with gnash loading some stuff, like google maps' "street view"   this pops up in terminal after the page loads: Removing DOMNodeRemoved listener23:26
ShooreeSiDi, will try that23:26
ShooreeSiDi, says my xubuntu-desktop is already the newest version23:28
ShooreeNvidia X server says I don't appear to be using its driver23:28
Shooreewhich I'm not, at the moment, because I purged it23:29
SiDiwhen you said without X, i thought you meant without the X server installed at all :D23:29
Shooreebut it said so anyway even beofre that23:29
Shooreesorry about that23:29
SiDiAlright, what is the exact error message please ?23:29
Shooreewell, there's no error message per se, it just left me without window frames, once it managed to revive the gdm after the update23:30
SiDiWhat graphics card do you have ?23:30
Shooreeand when I install a driver, like the nvidia 180, which was there before, it gives me a barfed up display23:30
SiDiAlso, please show me the output of "aptitude search nvidia"and of "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf"23:31
SiDi!paste | Shooree23:31
ubottuShooree: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)23:31
Shooreewill do, mate23:31
Shooreeit's an nvidia 8600M GT. worked flawlessly until 2 hours ago23:31
SiDiYou upgraded to 9.04, right ?23:32
Shooreemy dvd drive is dead... can't burn it :/23:32
SiDiWhat did you upgrade from and to then ? :)23:32
Shooreeplus I'm on a laptop, so I;m waiting to stash all my data to23:33
Shooreeit was one of those upgrade thingies that pop up23:33
Shooreebut I haven't done it in some time23:33
Shooreeso it was kinda big23:33
SiDiDistribution upgrade, not updates, right ?23:33
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading23:34
Shooreeman this paste bin thing is gonna be hard, without being able to switch between windows. you'll have to excuse me while I juggle this.23:34
SiDiOk, even ubottu doesn't use the good vocabulary23:34
SiDiShooree, its ok, just tell me which driver has an "i" in front of its name23:34
SiDiand also tell me what is the name of the "Driver" in the "Section Device" of the xorg.conf file23:35
SiDiand tell me which version of xubuntu you use, too :p23:35
Shooree8.10 hehe23:35
SiDiAlright. When you said upgrade, i thought you meant 8.10 -> 9.04 since upgrade is the word used for that23:35
SiDiYou actually just updated packages, right ?23:35
Shooreemy mind blanked. what's the easiest way to open xorg.conf23:36
Shooreeyes, that's what I did23:36
Shooreesorry for the mixup23:36
SiDicat /etc/X11/xorg.conf will display it23:36
Shooreeyes yes23:36
SiDiyou can use less or more instead of cat if you need to scroll23:36
SiDiand nano if you want to edit it23:36
Shooreeright. I should mention again that I have removed my gfx drivers.23:37
SiDiYou should never add / remove graphic drivers in Ubuntu. Only pick the latest one in the "Hardware drivers" one23:38
Shooreethere's nothing in xorg.conf23:38
Shooreewell, I didn't know what to do, mate. I was getting desperate.23:38
Shooreehardware drivers stopped showing me anything23:38
Shooreebecause something got messed up the first time I tried to revert to those recommended drivers. IIRC, I used some newer version from the nvidia website before this update23:39
SiDitype sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg --phigh23:39
SiDiAh :P23:39
SiDiThis reminds me me 6 months ago23:40
SiDiI wanted to get the latest ones too, and i broke my whole system. After a few hours of despair i reinstalled the whole machine :X23:40
Shooreewith the "--phigh"?23:40
Shooreebut all of this WORKED flawlessly until I updated23:40
SiDii hope its --phigh and not -phigh23:40
SiDilet me check23:40
Shooreesays unknown23:40
Shooreeperhas just -23:41
Shooreewhat is that anyway?23:41
SiDitry it please :p23:41
Shooreewhy don't you try it first?!23:41
SiDiIts options to tell dpkg (the very very backend of the package manager) to reconfigure the graphic server23:41
SiDiBecause my drivers work like a charm and i dont feel like screwing my session right now :D23:41
Shooreegave me a warning23:42
SiDinow, try to reboot :P23:42
Shooreeabout overwriting a possibly customized config23:42
SiDithats ok23:42
Shooreebut I still haven't got a driver23:42
SiDiyour customized config doesnt work much23:42
Shooreelol true23:42
SiDiyou got the generic driver23:42
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SiDidpkg should set you to use it, then you can properly reinstall the good one23:42
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Shooreeok SiDi, see you in a few. you've been a real mate23:43
SiDiThe kernel changes every 2 months approximately (vs every 20 years in another OS </troll>) so you should stay with the recommanded drivers if you dont want to check yourself that they work for the next kernel23:43
SiDiAlright, come back to tell me if it worked23:43
Shooreedamn. nothing changed23:46
SiDiThats annoying23:47
Shooreexorg.conf is still the same23:47
Shooreeie, it's got nothing in it23:48
SiDicheck if xserver-xorg-video-vesa is installed pls23:48
Shooreeyou know what's odd? everytime I restart, it's like it's waking up from hibernation> pidgin and ffox come up23:48
Shooreeeven though I killed them23:49
SiDiuncheck the 'save session' thing23:49
SiDiwhen you quit23:49
ShooreeI always do leave it unchecked23:49
Shooreethat's why it's odd23:49
SiDirm .cache/session -r23:50
SiDiits rests from the last time... that feature isnt really great imo :p23:50
Shooreesays no such file :/23:50
SiDiactually it lets you save a session, and then this very session is booted each time23:51
Shooreebut it still brings up ffox, telling me my last session crashed23:51
SiDiits "rm .cache/sessions -r" sorry23:51
Shooreebut it doesn't bring back xchat, even though that is left open as well23:51
Shooreeokies, no errors. I guess it did that23:51
SiDiyeh well, it saved a session from when only ff and pidgin were pened :P23:52
SiDiNow it wont bother you anymore23:52
Shooreeso, another restart?23:52
SiDiBtw, you got a graphical interface right now ? :/23:52
SiDidamn.. why didnt you tell me :p23:52
Shooreeeverything's fine (excepth for the bit depth I guess)23:52
ShooreeI presumed you knew?23:53
SiDiGo to Applications -> system -> hardware drivers, anything listed ?23:53
SiDiusually when people crash their drivers they end up in shell, with only a command line23:53
ShooreeI wouldn't know how to swim in shell23:53
SiDiAnd im not in a state that allows me to use my brain :D23:53
Shooreeoh, that's encouraging :)23:53
SiDiim having problems in initramfs console, but shell is like home ^^23:53
Shooreewell I just migrated from windoze a couple moths back23:54
Shooreenothing listed, btw23:54
Shooreebeen like that for some time now. At first, I had the usual stuff listed there23:54
Shooreebut now, absolutely nada23:55
SiDiplease do aptitude search nvidia and for each one installed (those with a "i" on the left), sudo aptitude purge <name of the package>23:55
Shooree180 is installed. removing 1 by 123:56
ShooreeI really appreciate your time, mate23:56
SiDiWell, i'm here for that, you know ;)23:57
Shooreeok. a new aptitude search reveals only nvidia-settings as having "idA" status23:57
Shooreewhat do we do now?23:58
SiDikill it too :P23:59
ShooreeI love the ubuntu community23:59
SiDime too ;)23:59
Shooreethere sheee gooeees23:59

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