[11:11] <CIA-9> hw-detect: cjwatson * r114 ubuntu/ (29 files in 5 dirs): merge from Debian 1.72
[14:35] <__algol__> Hi! can anyone here help me with the casper's live CD boot process?
[14:35] <cjwatson> perhaps, what's the question?
[14:36] <__algol__> well, I would like to make a live USB with the filesystem.squashfs on some other directory, but I can't figure out how
[14:38] <cjwatson> you mean some directory other than /casper? why?
[14:39] <__algol__> yep, cause I want to have more then one live system in that USB pen
[14:40] <cjwatson> hmm, you'll have difficulty with the installer there too I expect
[14:40] <cjwatson> you could use multiple containing filesystems rather than changing the directory name
[14:40] <cjwatson> casper supports a UUID to (effectively) specify the filesystem to use
[14:40] <__algol__> well, I don't care about the installer, I just want the live system...
[14:42] <cjwatson> right now there's no way to specify a different directory short of hacking the code; I think using multiple containing filesystems (i.e. multiple partitions on the stick) and using UUIDs to control which gets used might be easier
[14:43] <__algol__> hmmm... maybe but I would like to have it this way so that I can easly change the live systems I carry on my USB pen
[14:44] <__algol__> I know that on gentoo has a "subdir" boot param and on debian I has "live-media-path", but what about ubuntu?
[14:45] <cjwatson> like I say, it doesn't right now, although I can probably suck in the change from Debian
[14:45] <cjwatson> but that won't help you for existing releases
[14:46] <__algol__> I did something near it by using "iso-scan/filename" param, but it makes it a very slow boot process, as it has to read the whole iso
[14:47] <__algol__> the thing is that debian uses other boot script...
[14:48] <__algol__> do you know about the "iso-scan/filename" param?
[14:52] <cjwatson> I do, but it isn't relevant to you
[14:52] <cjwatson> it's for use by the alternate/server installer, not the live CD boot process
[14:53] <cjwatson> Debian's live CD boot script is a derivative of Ubuntu's, so changes are portable
[14:53] <__algol__> well, it did the trick for me
[14:53] <__algol__> the live system booted with no problem when I used it
[14:53] <__algol__> iso-scan/filename=/linux/ubuntu/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
[14:54] <__algol__> but I had to copy the iso file to that path, of corse
[14:54] <cjwatson> oh, well lupin does support it
[14:54] <cjwatson> but in that case it's only intended for use by wubi
[14:54] <__algol__> yep, thats in that script
[14:55] <__algol__> I didn't use wubi... I started it with gurb
[14:55] <__algol__> *grub
[14:56] <cjwatson> I realise that, I just said it's only *intended* for use by wubi
[14:56] <__algol__> :)
[14:56] <cjwatson> you can use it if you like, it's just not really a great approach
[14:56] <cjwatson> (for this case)
[14:57] <__algol__> I think you are right, that's why I'm still asking of other method :)
[14:57] <cjwatson> there is no method built into casper right now
[14:57] <CIA-9> casper: cjwatson * r630 trunk/ (debian/changelog debian/manpage/casper.7 scripts/casper):
[14:57] <CIA-9> casper: * Port from Debian (thanks, Daniel Baumann):
[14:57] <CIA-9> casper:  - Added live-media-path as suggested by Jordi Pujol.
[14:57] <cjwatson> ^- that commit to karmic adds one
[14:58] <__algol__> ??
[14:58] <cjwatson> but you'll still have to use something else for older releases; iso-scan/filename will probably do OK
[14:59] <__algol__> you are saying that you asked for future realeses to support "live-media-path" param?
[15:00] <__algol__> so, for oldler realeses there is only two ways... iso-scan/filename, and change the script myself...
[15:01] <__algol__> think I will choose the first :)
[15:01] <__algol__> *releases
[15:03] <__algol__> does "iso-scan/filename" param make the system load entierly from the iso?
[15:03] <cjwatson> no, I'm saying that I *made* future releases support that parameter
[15:03] <cjwatson> yes, it does
[15:03] <__algol__> so, I don't need any other file to boot?
[15:04] <cjwatson> you probably need the initramfs in place
[15:04] <__algol__> like vmlinuz, initrd.gz?
[15:05] <__algol__> initramfs ? , initrd.gz?
[15:06] <__algol__> of corse I need  initrd.gz, the boot script is there....
[15:07] <__algol__> that way I will need just two files, ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso, vmlinuz and initrd.gz, right?
[15:08] <__algol__> wrong! that't three files LOL
[15:10] <__algol__> is the "preseed" file needed for the live system or just in the instalation process?
[15:17] <cjwatson> just the installation process
[15:17] <cjwatson> initrd.gz is an initramfs these days, but you're unlikely to care about the distinction (which is why we never bothered renaming the file)
[15:19] <__algol__> ok, thanks alot for the help
[15:20] <__algol__> I'm impressed for the quickness of the acceptance of kind of a suggestion like the "live-media-path" param...
[15:22] <__algol__> have you actually coded it already?
[15:27] <cjwatson> __algol__: the message you saw from CIA-9 was a commit message, i.e. code
[15:28] <__algol__> great! you'r realy quick then :)
[15:30] <__algol__> so, I could download the new CVS version and make a new intrd.gz, for my USB pen ;)
[15:30] <cjwatson> well, it's not cvs, but sure, I guess so; but only if you know your way around very well
[15:31] <__algol__> ...in witch script is it?
[15:32] <__algol__> casper, ok
[15:32] <__algol__> sorry
[15:35] <__algol__> I just can't find the source code, but I guess it would be just following some steps from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[15:35] <cjwatson> suppose so
[15:46] <__algol__> :( went to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/casper/+changelog, but can't find it... but now I know that you use bazaar ;)
[15:47] <evand> it hasn't been uploaded yet
[15:47] <cjwatson> you can find the code from http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/casper/trunk if you're desperate
[15:49] <evand> you'll have to branch casper (bzr checkout lp:casper casper.ubuntu)
[15:49] <evand> ah
[15:51] <CarlFK> I am trying to run the net installer in xen, but I get: Error: (2, 'Invalid kernel', 'elf_xen_note_check: ERROR: Will only load images built for the generic loader or Linux images')
[15:52] <__algol__> well, not desperate... I was just couriose to see the changes you have made :) I think I would die if I didn't :)
[15:53] <__algol__> Thank a lot again!
[15:53] <__algol__> bye, hve to go back to work...
[15:56] <__algol__> nice talking to you!
[20:48] <CIA-9> hw-detect: cjwatson * r115 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.72ubuntu1