[00:18] <genii> pastebinit is <reply> pastebinit is an Ubuntu package which is the command-line equivelent of !pastebin . Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which will then report an URL which contains the output. From command-line it may be installed with: sudo apt-get install pastebinit or: sudo aptitude install pastebinit .Simple usage: command-name | pastebinit   or:  textfile-name > pastebinit
[00:19] <genii> y/n ?
[00:20] <Seeker`> !pastebinit
[00:20] <Seeker`> !info pastebinit
[00:22] <genii> Seeker`: I could maybe shorten it a bit.
[00:22] <Flannel> Why do you need to give both apt-get and aptitude to install? that seems silly
[00:22] <Seeker`> how about something like "automatically pastebins command output, or any other text and returns a URL. For example: command-name | pastebinit or: textfile-name > pastebinit
[00:22] <Seeker`> the command name is the package name, don't think you need to tell people that in the factoid
[00:23] <Flannel> also, cat textfile > pastebinit "textfilename > pastebinit" won't work.
[00:23] <Flannel> If you don't have it installed, will Ubuntu recommend it?
[00:23] <Flannel> yeah
[00:24] <genii> Flannel: I actually wanted to just point to !apt or !apt-get so they could use method of choice  but that (those) factoid doesn't really help with that aspect
[00:24] <Flannel> So, can probably skip the installation stuff, since they'll get that after they try it?
[00:24] <Seeker`> how about something like "automatically pastebins command output, or any other text, and returns a URL. For example: "command-name | pastebinit" or: "cat textfile-name > pastebinit"
[00:24] <Flannel> I think that's brevity at the expense of clarity.
[00:24] <Seeker`> genii: if someone doesn't know how to install packages, they'll ask
[00:24] <Flannel> (and Ubuntu will tell them)
[00:25] <Flannel> although, I suppose we can't count on those.
[00:25] <genii> Seeker`: True :) I was just taking an example from the suggestion and trying to encompass users who don't use synaptic as in their sample
[00:26] <Flannel> I don't really think we need to worry about being that frontend agnostic.  The point is to get the thing installed so they can use it.
[00:26] <Seeker`> I mean, if you explain installing the package in the factoid, then you should probably include information about pipe, and cat, and redirecting output, and what pastebin actually is
[00:26] <Flannel> Seeker`: No, that's just silly.
[00:26] <Seeker`> Flannel: thats my point
[00:26] <Flannel> Seeker`: Uh, no?
[00:26] <genii> OK lemme try a cleanup on it. 
[00:27] <Flannel> "apt-get install pastebinit" is much different than "cat outputs the file to stdout, pipe redirects it from stdout"
[00:27] <Flannel> Seeker`: Someone who just needs help in #u would likely benefit from the former, and not care about the latter.
[00:28] <Flannel> s/would likely/may/
[00:28] <Seeker`> Flannel: if they need to know about installation they will ask, there is no need to flood the channel with the potentially useless information
[00:28] <Seeker`> my point was that we shouldn't need to teach people to install stuff in a factoid when the package name is the same as the command
[00:29] <Flannel> Seeker`: Adding twenty more characters isn't really a big deal
[00:29] <Flannel> Seeker`: Why not?  That doesn't seem to follow any logic.
[00:29] <genii> pastebinit is <reply> pastebinit is the command-line equivelent of !pastebin . Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which will then report an URL which contains the output .Simple usage: command-name | pastebinit   or:  textfile-name > pastebinit
[00:29] <genii> With above, if they try the command it will instruct them how to install
[00:30] <Flannel> I'm just worried that after they try the command (and don't have it installed) they'll think they're done.
[00:30] <Seeker`> Flannel: if 20 characters is no big deal, then why not explain cat, and pipe
[00:30] <Flannel> Seeker`: Because they don't provide 
[00:30] <Flannel> Seeker`: Because they don't provide *any* value to the factoid, and would take lines upon lines?
[00:32] <Flannel> They don't help solve the "how do I pastebin" problem
[00:32] <genii> pastebinit is <reply> pastebinit is the command-line equivelent of !pastebin . Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output. Simple usage: command-name | pastebinit 
[00:33] <genii> ?
[00:33] <genii> Hehe
[00:34] <genii> I'm *not* touching that suggestion
[00:34] <Flannel> almost !scope worthy
[00:35] <genii> Current suggestion for pastebinit acceptable ?
[00:38] <genii> Seeker`, Flannel , any edits or concerns for: pastebinit is <reply> pastebinit is the command-line equivelent of !pastebin . Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output. Simple usage: command-name | pastebinit 
[00:39] <Seeker`> genii: fine by me
[00:40] <genii> OK, added
[00:41] <genii> I figure if they try the usage suggested, it will just recommend how to install it since the packagename is the program name. And it refers to the usual !pastebin for further info
[02:54] <a> please monitor/remove rocko
[02:55] <LjL> look at moneybagz9
[02:55] <Flannel> And his bot
[02:55] <LjL> and the command he used, specifically
[02:55] <LjL> i get the feeling it's a... particular... kind of bot
[02:56] <LjL> i'd set +r.
[02:58] <Flannel> Anyone see why sylvanus should be banned from the flootbots there?
[02:58] <a> I would like to know why I was kicked from #ubuntu
[02:58] <LjL> what the
[02:58] <Flannel> a: bug, hold on a sec
[02:58] <Flannel> LjL: I've seen this before, actually.
[02:59] <LjL> no, it's not a "bug"
[02:59] <a> I'm going through mibbit.com
[02:59] <a> a proxy, apparently
[02:59] <Flannel> a: right, hold on a sec.
[02:59] <Flannel> LjL: a program did something its not supposed to.  That's what most people consider a bug.
[03:00] <a> is it angry about my name?  I find it quite funny
[03:00] <Flannel> a: Try rejoining (you'll have to go through the proxy room again)
[03:02] <LjL> Flannel: indeed. i thought it was a *certain* IP which it is not.
[03:02] <a> thanks
[03:03] <Flannel> LjL: Nah, it bans some innocent bystander, it happened to me once in the past too.  I'm wondering if it some sort of odd crosstalk here.  Since last time the person involved was in this channel as well.
[03:04] <LjL> Flannel: the bots aren't in this channel so they can't see what's happening here
[03:05] <LjL> Flannel: it almost certainly has something to do with one of your kicks, though, i have to see which and whyu
[03:06] <Hobbsee> jpds: oh, yes please.  For it to recognise jaunty in !info packagname releasename
[03:39] <Flannel> Howdy ekimmargni, how can we help you?
[05:08] <ubot3> In #ubuntu-cn, ainalome said: !secludedsage is null
[05:10] <ainalome> something just upload here?
[05:12] <Myrtti> no
[05:12] <Myrtti> well
[05:12] <Myrtti> [07:08] < ubot3> In #ubuntu-cn, ainalome said: !secludedsage is null
[05:13] <ainalome> i am wrong.....
[05:13] <Myrtti> ainalome: do you want that factoid in the bot?
[05:13] <ainalome> clean this...... i want to clean this.....
[05:13] <ainalome> Myrtti, i just type the wrong character.
[05:14] <ainalome> Myrtti, and it said something is sent here...
[05:14] <Myrtti> ok
[05:14] <Myrtti> ainalome: the bot just told that you said that, but nothing else
[05:15] <Myrtti> ainalome: *nothing* happened
[05:15] <Myrtti> :-)
[05:17] <ainalome> i said nothing...
[05:19] <Myrtti> ainalome: don't worry. Nothing happened
[05:19] <Myrtti> bazhang...?
[05:31]  * nalioth pets ubot3
[05:31] <Flannel> nalioth: sheesh, causing a netsplit petting a bot
[05:33] <Myrtti> Flannel: he's freenode staff, he haz the powah
[05:36] <Myrtti> oh damn, now I've got that song in my head
[05:58] <Myrtti> myself is getting on the nerves
[08:31] <Myrtti> *SIGH*
[08:48] <Myrtti> ok, is anyone else about?
[08:50] <Myrtti> !ping
[08:50] <Myrtti> uh-oh
[08:50] <ikonia> hello yes ?
[08:51] <Myrtti> good. I'm going to kill someone in #ubuntu soon
[08:51] <Myrtti> it's getting on my nerves on some unexplainable way
[08:51] <Myrtti> so I'm going to take a slow step backwards, now.
[08:51] <ikonia> okey dokey
[08:51] <ikonia> I'll put the eyes on 
[08:52] <Myrtti> especially finlay might need some babysitting
[08:53] <Myrtti> I have a feeling everything he says is passed through google translate mandarin-english
[08:53] <Myrtti> and lotharn, he said he's drunk
[08:53] <ikonia> he's toast if he doesn't stop
[09:21]  * Pici yawns
[09:21] <ikonia> wake up
[09:21] <Pici> I just did
[09:23] <ikonia> good
[11:22] <bazhang> * [juliaGirl] (i=ircap8@84.122.157.250.dyn.user.ono.com): wupitixa <--PM'ed me offering 'candid webcam'
[11:25] <Pici> bazhang: when?
[11:26] <bazhang> Pici, about 75 mins ago, he/she is offline now
[11:26] <Pici> bazhang: Okay, same person then, they/it were klined.
[11:26] <bazhang> Pici, thanks for the info
[14:37]  * genii sips
[14:40] <Myrtti> *yawn*
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> @login
[14:46] <Jack_Sparrow> @btlogin
[14:52] <bazhang> @bansearch batchy_
[14:53] <ikonia> another .au
[14:54] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic: 2009-05-30T12:23:25 <Batch> And i have a sound problem :<
 You can imagine what sound problems im having /
[14:55] <bazhang> seems to be ban evading
[14:55] <ikonia> is it the same guy
[14:56] <Myrtti> n=elf@c-68-40-73-168.hsd1.mi.comcast.net
[14:56] <Myrtti> huh?
[14:56] <Jack_Sparrow> turbo from this am
[14:57] <Myrtti> so he moved from michigan to queensland all of a sudden?
[14:57] <ikonia> impressive
[14:57] <bazhang> yeah its him.
[14:57] <bazhang> mint6 user
[14:58] <Myrtti> like there's no other mint6 users in the world?
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Myrtti This is turbo from this am in ubuntu  n=elf@c-68-40-73-168.hsd1.mi.comcast.net
[14:58] <Myrtti> oh
[14:58] <Myrtti> Jack_Sparrow: indeed
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> I have no idea what you are talking about
[14:58] <bazhang> with the user ident ryan and the same exact sound probs, and the lolcat behaviour? I doubt it
[14:58] <Myrtti> oh, RYAN!
[14:58] <Myrtti> now I get it
[14:58] <ikonia> toast him then
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[14:59] <bazhang> ah he quit
[14:59] <ikonia> good
[14:59] <ikonia> problem solved
[14:59] <bazhang> he had some nasty things to say in here and in #u and -ot as well
[14:59] <Jack_Sparrow> I think fenn .. the walrus has old history here..
[15:01] <Jack_Sparrow> He had multiple bans in Feb of this year
[15:31] <genii> Work has me running around too much this morning to be overly useful monitoring #k so I'm /away but checking scroll every 5-7 minutes
[15:31] <genii> Just FYI
[15:31] <LjL> oh lord.
[15:31] <bazhang> hehe I'm in there genii 
[15:31] <LjL> [16:28:40] <LjL> hi i'd like permission to make a quick ad for two language learning related channels in -irc, i think it should be appropriate since it's a multilingual channel
[15:32] <LjL> except i intended to say that here and not on -irc to begin with :<
[15:32] <bazhang> haha
[15:32] <bazhang> what's the channel?
[15:33] <LjL> bazhang: ##francais (not mine) and ##scandinavian (mine)
[15:33] <bazhang> LjL, you speak either?
[15:33] <Myrtti> bazhang: swedish
[15:33] <LjL> i've learned some swedish, and i can more or less read french and sometimes write something that resembles it
[15:34] <bazhang> LjL, you can speak swedish? wow
[15:34] <bazhang> I can read/speak/write etc French
[15:34] <Myrtti> it's not like it's hard ;-)
[15:34] <LjL> and given swedish is similar enough to the other two to be mostly mutually intelligible, i thought one channel for all three would be nice
[15:34] <Myrtti> learning swedish is a lot easier than english
[15:34] <LjL> well the grammar is easier in english
[15:34] <bazhang> english is hardest in the world
[15:34] <LjL> the spelling is not
[16:01] <jussi01> tag team....
[16:01] <bazhang> yeowch
[16:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Time to tighten the nose on jimmy
[16:01] <bazhang> nasty factoid
[16:04] <LjL> he's in again
[16:05] <bazhang> jimmy_birer
[16:05] <LjL> always from 79.115
[16:08] <genii> Romania
[16:34] <jussi01> !u > ahmed 
[16:48] <genii> When from here !factoid > them does it just seem that ubottu wants to talk to them out of the blue?
[16:48] <genii> That could really mess ppl up...
[16:50] <Myrtti> it does say that someone wants you to know...
[16:52] <bazhang> nidhal is not reading that link very carefully
[16:53] <ikonia> home time, laters all
[16:53] <bazhang> night
[16:53] <ikonia> whoaaaaa, it's not bed time
[16:53] <ikonia> just going to drive home
[16:54] <bazhang> whoops sorry :)
[16:54] <jussi01> !test > genii
[16:55] <genii> Ah I see now Myrtti wants you to know about .... jussi01 wants you to know about .... etc etc
[16:56] <genii> If it didn't do that, man, could cause some chaos
[17:04] <jussi01> yeah... :D
[17:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Im going into lurk mode, starting breakfast
[17:09]  * genii munches his sandwiches
[21:41] <jussi01> !away > Kasm|away
[21:58] <Jack_Sparrow> @login
[21:58] <Jack_Sparrow> @btlogin
[22:07] <Mez> when's the next IRCC meeting?
[22:10] <Seeker`> Mez: dunno, why?
[22:10] <Mez> Seeker`: just wondering. I'm interested in meetings lately :D
[22:12] <topyli> Mez: somebody must have put something in your drink! :)
[22:26] <Myrtti> if anyone feels like it, do a banforward for [gquit]bombadil_ to ##fix_your_connection - I'm too tired to do anything too complicated now, heading to bed. nini.
[22:27] <Tm_T> Myrtti: night
[23:16] <darthanubis> Who do I address abuse of OP power to?
[23:17] <darthanubis> specifically #ubuntuforums?
[23:18] <darthanubis> I was attacked in violation of COC by someone with OP power, and when I defended my position, I was banned.
[23:20] <darthanubis> You have been kicked from #ubuntuforums by HymnToLife (If you have nothing interesting to say...)
[23:20] <Seeker`> I dont know if ubuntuforums is an official channel or not
[23:20] <darthanubis> is this acceptable behavior?
[23:20] <Seeker`> do you have a log?
[23:20] <darthanubis> ahhh
[23:20] <darthanubis> sadly I don't keep logs
[23:21] <darthanubis> well I thought it was part of Ubuntu offcially
[23:21] <darthanubis> Thanks for the reply.
[23:24] <darthanubis> Keeping logs from now on
[23:24] <darthanubis> peace
[23:25] <Seeker`> anyone fancy taking a look at that?
[23:25] <Seeker`> I dont know where we stand with ubuntuforums
[23:26] <Mamarok> Seeker`: it's listed here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#Channels
[23:26] <Mamarok> doesn't it make official then?
[23:33] <Seeker`> maybe
[23:34] <Seeker`> Mamarok: should probably be someone from the IRCC to look at it though
[23:36] <Seeker`> Mamarok: or at least someone with access in #ubuntuforums
[23:37] <Mamarok> Seeker`: I guess so, never went there myself