[00:00] <Shooree> ok, that's gone too
[00:00] <Shooree> now? rebuild xconf again?
[00:01] <Shooree> xserver, I meant
[00:01] <SiDi> Now, still nothing listed ?
[00:01] <Shooree> still nothing
[00:01] <SiDi> Crap
[00:01] <Shooree> maybe an update to apt-get is in order?
[00:02] <Shooree> or whatever governs it?
[00:02] <SiDi> No, it should be ok
[00:02] <SiDi> I dont know exactly how that hardware drivers window works though
[00:02] <SiDi> do you mind trying to manually instal the 177 ?
[00:02] <Shooree> absolutely not
[00:02] <Shooree> 180 was recommended, though
[00:03] <Shooree> IIRC
[00:03] <Shooree> but... that didn't help me much, did it.
[00:03] <Shooree> the 180's I just killed were taken from synaptic
[00:03] <SiDi> I dont trust 180 when i have problems :p
[00:03] <Shooree> mm
[00:03] <Shooree> should I use it now as well?
[00:03] <SiDi> 177 have been recommanded at the beginning of Intrepid
[00:03] <Shooree> synaptic, I mean
[00:04] <Shooree> right, I'll take them
[00:04] <SiDi> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177
[00:04] <SiDi> Synaptics is ok too
[00:04] <SiDi> its the same, just more clicks :p
[00:04] <Shooree> hell, I'll take a coloured wollen blanket as a gfx driver now
[00:04] <Shooree> yea, I know
[00:04] <Shooree> it's the winluser in me
[00:04] <SiDi> the only thing to avoid in ubuntu is to avoid the "from website" installation method
[00:05] <Shooree> for gfx drivers, or in general?
[00:05] <SiDi> in general :)
[00:05] <Shooree> right
[00:06] <SiDi> when an application is packaged it means : 1) the content  has been more or less verified (or there is someone to slap in case of problem) 2) the app is known to work (at least to launch) in ubuntu
[00:06] <Shooree> tell me, SiDi, while this installs... do you play Wesnoth by any chance?
[00:06] <SiDi> Also, itll be auto-updated and the possible tweaks needed for ubuntu will be in the package
[00:06] <SiDi> Nope
[00:06] <SiDi> no time for games :[
[00:06] <Shooree> shame. Wanted to return the favour there.
[00:07] <Shooree> I fancy myself quite good in that thing, at least.
[00:07] <Shooree> anyway, yes, I understand what you're saying
[00:07] <Shooree> right. drver install all done
[00:07] <SiDi> alright
[00:08] <SiDi> now... you're gonna reboot ^^
[00:08] <SiDi> and cross fingers, indeed
[00:08] <Shooree> lovely
[00:08] <Shooree> see you in a jiffy, as they say
[00:08] <Shooree> ...or do they?
[00:10] <MTec007> im having some problems with firefox 3.0.10, using gnash 0.85    some sites like youtube will play videos but google maps "street view" and some other sites, the movie will not load. just a black screen where the video should be playing
[00:10] <MTec007> Linux matthew-laptop 2.6.28-12-generic #43-Ubuntu SMP Fri May 1 19:27:06 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[00:10] <MTec007> and xubuntu 9.04 with latest updates
[00:11] <Shooree> well damn
[00:11] <Shooree> nothing changed
[00:11] <SiDi> Shooree, if its still buggy i fear i cant help :/
[00:11] <Shooree> SiDi, you've been so very helpful and too kind
[00:11] <SiDi> !xorg
[00:11] <SiDi> check that link tho
[00:11] <SiDi> !nvidia
[00:12] <SiDi> and that
[00:12] <Shooree> thanks, man
[00:12] <Shooree> I'll see what I can do
[00:12] <Shooree> thanks for everything
[00:12] <Shooree> oh
[00:12] <Shooree> oh dear
[00:12] <SiDi> MTec007, im not completely sure but i think gnash doesnt implement the whole flash's functions, so some  flash apps wont work
[00:12] <Shooree> here it is
[00:12] <Shooree> omg
[00:12] <SiDi> Shooree, you're welcome :p
[00:12] <SiDi> Shooree, where is what
[00:12] <knome> ;)
[00:12] <MTec007> is there something that will work correctly?
[00:12] <knome> hello SiDi
[00:13] <Shooree> my frames are back!
[00:13] <knome> MTec007, suppose the basic stuff
[00:13] <SiDi> knome, hey
[00:13] <Shooree> could it be that Compiz was to blame?
[00:13] <knome> Shooree, might be
[00:13] <Shooree> that IT in fact didn't cope with the upgrade
[00:13] <knome> you never know
[00:13] <Shooree> I reloaded it so many times
[00:14] <SiDi> MTec007, one thing that works is using openvideo.dailymotion.com and totem's youtube plugin, and banning Flash of your PC
[00:14] <Shooree> now I switched to another window manager
[00:14] <Shooree> and my frames are here
[00:14] <SiDi> Shooree, huh, do you mean you were missing the border of the windows ? :P
[00:14] <Shooree> ugly as a donkey's mug, but finally bloody HERE
[00:14] <MTec007> how do i ban 'flash of my pc' ?
[00:14] <SiDi> let us know when you have compiz, Shooree .. its not by default in xubuntu ;)
[00:14] <Shooree> yes, SiDi. that's what we've been trying to do all along, mate
[00:14] <SiDi> MTec007, type "vade-retro flash" in a console (this is not serious btw)
[00:15] <Shooree> SiDi, I'm so sorry
[00:15] <SiDi> Shooree, hehe, np :D
[00:15] <SiDi> Shooree, we owned tonight...
[00:15] <knome> hah
[00:15] <Shooree> I tried getting help in so many places, I forgot what I told where and to whom
[00:15] <MTec007> SiDi, what do you mean it is not serious?
[00:16] <Shooree> yes, Compiz isn't showing winframes
[00:16] <SiDi> MTec007, there is no "vade retro" command ;) it was a joke
[00:16] <Shooree> SiDi, you owned and I can only hope that you shall continue to own just as so, if not more, for when I screw up next time.
[00:16] <SiDi> MTec007, if you're having problems with gnash, use flash, and if really you dont want proprietary flash plugin, there is nothing more to do
[00:16] <SiDi> Shooree, :D
[00:16] <SiDi> Shooree, i hope ill own even more then !
[00:17] <MTec007> i dont care what it takes i just want something to work.
[00:17] <Shooree> right
[00:17] <SiDi> !flash
[00:17] <SiDi> MTec007, first link. Install adobe flash (from our repository) and then no more crashing apps
[00:17] <knome> (hopefully)
[00:18] <SiDi> (shht ! :P)
[00:18] <knome> hah
[00:18] <SiDi> knome, i broke my volume daemon's code btw :D
[00:18] <Shooree> later, people. I need some victory/beauty sleep
[00:18] <knome> Shooree, yay
[00:18] <SiDi> i'm rewriting it cause it wasnt sexy
[00:18] <knome> *SiSi
[00:18] <SiDi> Shooree, good night !
[00:18] <knome> *SiDi
[00:18] <Shooree> o/
[00:18] <knome> night Shooree
[00:18] <Shooree> night
[00:19] <MTec007> what do i do about this: Package adobe-flashplugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[00:20] <knome> MTec007, package flashplugin-nonfree
[00:20] <SiDi> knome, blue wiki please *puppy eyes*
[00:21] <MTec007> already the newest version? hmm
[00:21] <knome> SiDi, weren't you able to do css? :P
[00:21] <SiDi> knome, its moinmoin, its not css
[00:21] <SiDi> :|
[00:21] <knome> it's not moinmoin, the theming is css
[00:21] <SiDi> yeh but putting it in the moinmoin is moinmoin
[00:22] <knome> nah
[00:22] <knome> it's still css :]
[00:22] <SiDi> MTec007, sudo apt-get autoremove --purge gnash flashplugin-nonfree
[00:23] <SiDi> and then install flashplugin-nonfree
[00:23] <tyranos> does xubuntu have osd for brightness down and up ?
[00:24] <knome> tyranos, not by default
[00:24] <MTec007> knome, mine did by default?
[00:24] <knome> SiDi, do we have that by default?
[00:24] <MTec007> i never installed or configured anything for osd
[00:25] <knome> hmm
[00:25] <knome> it's some time since i've xubuntu with a laptop (and not been using jaunty)
[00:25] <tyranos> knome, thx , but that is not a problem as long as the fn keys are working ;)
[00:25] <knome> tyranos, okay, maybe you can ask SiDi if you want them, as he is working on the osd things
[00:25] <lacrymology> I'm having a lot of problems with my xubuntu laptop, and I'd like to fix some
[00:25] <SiDi> Oo ?
[00:26] <knome> SiDi, then notify stuff
[00:26] <lacrymology> for example: when I plugged a monitor on the VGA out of the laptop, it froze
[00:26] <knome> -n
[00:26] <SiDi> oh
[00:26] <SiDi> i was reading glib stuff
[00:26] <knome> heh
[00:26] <SiDi> ok so whats wrong ? /P
[00:26] <lacrymology> then I rebooted, and it worked ok with the.. external?.. monitor, but then it wouldn't let me switch back to the laptop screen
[00:27] <lacrymology> so what gives? =P
[00:27] <SiDi> Hi lacrymology. What version of xubuntu, and what graphic card do you have, please ? Also, did you activate your hardware drivers ?
[00:27] <knome> SiDi, see tyranos' comments
[00:27] <SiDi> ok, so the notify-osd bubbles for that are obtained if gnome-power-manager is installed and used
[00:27] <SiDi> and i have no idea how it will work in karmic yet
[00:28] <MTec007> ok flash is now working nicely.
[00:28] <SiDi> MTec007, good to hear
[00:28] <lacrymology> SiDi: 8.04.2 it's some shitty intel card and I think I'm using the default vesa drivers, so no I havent activated the drivers
[00:28] <SiDi> lacrymology, if you're on intel then theyre activated by default (when they exist) so there isnt much to do
[00:29] <SiDi> lacrymology, old intel cards are really not the thing for dualscreen
[00:29] <SiDi> MTec007, what happened is that you had flash + gnash, making conflicts. If you install one , dont forget to remove the other before.
[00:29] <lacrymology> SiDi: so I have to switch back to XP if I want this piece of crap to work as it should?
[00:30] <SiDi> If you absolutely need dual screen then either that or ask people who _do_ know intel cards :)
[00:30] <MTec007> SiDi, i hadnt noticed that i had done that but now i know one more thing than i did before:) thanks
[00:30] <SiDi> MTec007, you're welcome
[00:31] <lacrymology> ok, so since we're at this.. will hibernate ever actually work under linux laptops?
[00:31] <lacrymology> because I was never able to resume a session
[00:31] <SiDi> It works like a charm on my machines - when i feel the need for a swap partition
[00:31] <tyranos> well it works on my eeepc as a charm
[00:31] <tyranos> like a charm
[00:31] <lacrymology> the boot said something like "no image found"
[00:31] <MTec007> lacrymology, my dell inspiron 1200 (2005) uses the hibernate just nicely
[00:32] <lacrymology> can someone help me.. don't know.. diagnose the problem?
[00:32] <SiDi> not me , lacrymology, i dont buy intel cards :)
[00:32] <lacrymology> I just tried to do it last night until this boot, so the logs are fresh =)
[00:33] <lacrymology> SiDi: I don't buy'em either. I was pretty much *forced* to buy this computer
[00:33] <MTec007> whats wrong with intel for the record?
[00:33] <lacrymology> SiDi: and I was talking about the hibernate issue
[00:34] <lacrymology> nothing per se.. but there's nothing RIGHT with them either
[00:34] <lacrymology> MTec007: talking about graphic cards
[00:34] <SiDi> MTec007, i need 2D/3D rendering performance, so i just get nvidia
[00:35] <SiDi> MTec007, most of my hardware apart from GPU is intel, though
[00:35] <lacrymology> MTec007: unless you're an intel graph chip experienced user and want to help me fix my monitor issue =)
[00:35] <MTec007> i have an intel chipset and i dont have much problem that isnt related to having 256mb shared with video RAM
[00:37] <MTec007> lacrymology, i know my vga port doesnt work (right now) on linux but i dont use a second monitor
[00:37] <lacrymology> MTec007: yeay! we share pains. Is your memory 166MHz too?
[00:37] <MTec007> ehm
[00:37] <lacrymology> MTec007: I don't usually either, but I had a monitor lying around and I wanted to watch a movie a little bit bigger
[00:38] <lacrymology> my computer is a real real piece of crap
[00:38] <MTec007> ddr1 pc2700
[00:38] <MTec007> dont know ram very well so..
[00:39] <lacrymology> MTec007: I don't either, but it's what lshw says
[00:39] <lacrymology> clock: 166MHz for the memory banks
[00:40] <MTec007> under *-pci ?
[00:41] <lacrymology> *-core/*-memory
[00:41] <lacrymology> *-core/*-memory/*-bank:0 and *-bank:1
[00:41] <MTec007> no clock
[00:42] <lacrymology>              description: SODIMM DDR Synchronous 166 MHz (6.0 ns)
[00:42] <lacrymology> and below that there are physical id, slot, size, width and clock descriptions
[00:43] <lacrymology> I don't know, I haven't seen any lshw output besides this machine's
[00:43] <MTec007>              description: Chip DDR Synchronous
[00:43] <MTec007> (my ram is build in, not a ram chip)
[00:45] <MTec007> but any way, yeah i cant swap monitors like i could in windows
[00:47] <lacrymology> I'm very sad that I really can't reccomend linux to my friends because of stuff like this
[00:47] <lacrymology> like "oh.. right.. what network card you have? mmm.. yeah, no.., you see..."
[00:48] <MTec007> yeah
[00:49] <MTec007> my sister in laws laptop, same issue
[00:49] <MTec007> :P
[00:49] <MTec007> so like right now, my vga is plugged in but i cant do anything with it, screen stays blank
[00:50] <MTec007> brb
[00:54] <MTec007> so on the bios screen i can swap either vga or lcd not both and cant swap at all after xubuntu boots
[00:57] <lacrymology> MTec007: yeah, same thing
[00:57] <lacrymology> I can kinda choose monitor at boot time
[00:57] <MTec007> right
[01:15] <MTec007> brb
[01:25] <MTec007> lacrymology, the OP on this link posted a xorg.conf that matches mine; if it matches yours it might help
[01:25] <MTec007> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1065238
[01:26] <MTec007> i tried to follow, but it messed X up for me and i had to revert
[02:48] <rocko> http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20090601/img/pwl-the-route-of-the-air-fr-1-65c35372035e.html
[03:51] <MTec007> i have a general question. /var/mail ...   all incoming email goes here right?
[03:53] <MTec007> what kind of things need to be done in order for that to happen?
[04:04] <anom01y> hey you guys do a great job just would like to tell you that.
[04:05] <anom01y> Xubuntu 9.04 really kicks serious ass. I've installed it on 4 of my frineds computers and they are all very happy
[04:05] <anom01y> they are complete newbs, but they are willing to learn from the start
[04:06] <cody-somerville> :)
[04:06] <cody-somerville> Thats awesome to hear.
[05:02] <lizarddude951> how can i set up xbuntu to output audio through my ps3?
[08:05] <swiftarrow> I all, I have a very big problem: five minutes ago, all the shortcuts in the sidebar of thunar just upped and dissapeared.  The firefox wasn't submitting forms (epiphany was) so I restarted firefox.  All my bookmarks dissapeared.  I restarted.  Now i can add a shortcut to the sidebar in thunar, and it dissapears one second later.  I think some malware may be running? HELP!!!
[11:46] <Da_Fra> Hi everybody!
[11:47] <Da_Fra> Could you please help me?
[11:47] <Da_Fra> How can I add a splash screen in XFCE? (something like balou)
[12:36] <mib_y08w7h64> hello
[12:37] <mib_y08w7h64> Can someone please help me how to activate drivers inside virtual PC 07 for intel graphics gma x4500?
[12:40] <mib_y08w7h64> 	Can someone please help me how to activate drivers inside virtual PC 07 for intel graphics gma x4500?
[12:41] <rootmos> is there a way to set a proxy in xfce that applies to every program?
[12:57] <javiskefka> Hello, I have a question about scim
[12:58] <javiskefka> What would I input for the configuration if I want the keyboard shortcut to go to next IM to be left alt + left shift?
[13:59] <Teknowolf> hi all
[14:01] <Teknowolf> == noob. can anyone tell me how to get X-fi to run under Ubuntu 9.04 ?
[14:02] <SiDi> what is x-fi ?
[14:02] <Teknowolf> creative soundcard
[14:02] <SiDi> oh
[14:03] <SiDi> well, i have no idea, sorry :/
[14:03] <Teknowolf> thx
[14:05] <ablomen> Teknowolf, http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571656 ( google is your friend :) )
[14:06] <butterbean> google is your friend .....i 2nd that:)
[14:06] <Teknowolf> thank you ablomen
[14:07] <SiDi> been written 2 years ago
[14:07] <SiDi> i dont think it'd run
[14:08] <Teknowolf> yeah but it might be a starting point
[14:09] <ablomen> SiDi, well as long as the driver is still compatible with the current kernel.. it just shows you how to compile your own kernel with a patch
[14:13] <Teknowolf> too bad creative didn't make installing drivers as easy as nvidia did
[14:37] <Carlis> Hi
[14:37] <Carlis> How do i remove openoffice.org presentation from Office ?
[14:38] <Teknowolf> OK I'm working on the OSS install and I'm doing the modprobe blacklist command and I'm getting "Permission denied" error does that line need to be preceeded by sudo as well?
[14:39] <Slonkie> Yes
[14:40] <Teknowolf> even with sudo it's  perm denied  any ideas
[14:42] <Carlis> How do i remove openoffice.org presentation from Office ?
[14:42] <Carlis> I need help
[14:42] <SiDi> Teknowolf, whats the exact command ?
[14:43] <Teknowolf> >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[14:44] <SiDi> and theres an echo on the left side, right ?
[14:44] <SiDi> type "sudo su" to login as root
[14:44] <SiDi> and then type the command
[14:44] <SiDi> you cant use echo with sudo, only as the true root
[14:44] <Teknowolf> no echo
[14:45] <SiDi> whats on the left then ?
[14:45] <Teknowolf> nothing
[14:46] <butterbean> Carlis..I did it earlier but I don't think it was the correct way.
[14:46] <Teknowolf> these are the commands for "Stopping ALSA" under the Opensound How-to
[14:46] <Teknowolf> sudo chmod 776 /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist sudo cat /lib/linux-sound-base/noALSA.modprobe.conf >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[14:47] <butterbean> I think I just used the "Add or Remove" under the Applications menu.
[14:48] <butterbean> I think....You might have to wait a few minutes till someone that knows more than I can help you
[14:49] <Carlis> ok. Thanks butterbean
[14:50] <SiDi> Teknowolf, its sudo cat /lib/linux-sound-base/noALSA.modprobe.conf >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[14:50] <SiDi> Teknowolf, not two separate commands
[14:50] <Teknowolf> OIC   thx Sidi
[14:51] <SiDi> Carlis, in Add/Remove type openoffice and indeed you'll see it. no idea why you wanna remove just this one though
[14:53] <butterbean> Carlis, I once used Synaptic Package manager to remove a whole lot of OpenOffice stuff and really screwed things up.
[14:54] <Carlis> because I 2 openoffce.org presentation and I want to see 1 openoffice.org presentation
[14:54] <Carlis> I see 2 openoffce.org presentation
[14:55] <DetroitLibertyPe> my recoommendation would just be to remove all openOffice, and then install the most current version
[14:57] <Carlis> ok
[14:57] <Carlis> How do i remove Dictionary from Office ?
[15:01] <SiDi> Carlis, type "cp /usr/share/applications/openoffice* ~/.local/share/applications && cd ~/.local/share/applications && thunar"
[15:01] <SiDi> and then for each openoffice file you can see in the folder, right click, edit them, add "NoDisplay=true;" to those you dont want to see in your menu anymore
[15:04] <Carlis> ok
[15:04] <Carlis> Thanks Sidi
[15:24] <Teknowolf> after I install OSS do I need to reboot for it to take effect?
[15:28] <Teknowolf> bbiab
[15:29] <Carlis> Hi
[15:29] <Carlis> sidi ??
[15:30] <SiDi> Yeh ?
[15:36] <Teknowolf> OK I now have OSS installed ....... still no joy with my x-fi sound, my motherboard has a built in (Realtek) sound card is it possible Ubuntu is defaulting to that? If so how do I get it to use the X-fi instead
[15:45] <Carlis> sidi you said I have to edit them, add "NoDisplay=true;"  I don`t find how to edit them but I have found the solution I delete that icon
[15:51] <Slonkie> heh
[16:11] <SiDi> deleting in /usr/share/apps was a very bad idea
[16:14] <Pres-Gas> back up, back up...oh, and did I happen to mention...back up?
[16:15] <ochosi> i just wanted to install gnome-do, when i realized that synaptic wanted to install evolution (same behaviour in apt-get and aptitude) and a list of other (useless) things that are all not mentioned as dependencies here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/gnome-do
[16:15] <ochosi> does anyone here know why that happens?
[16:16] <ochosi> at least it seemed strange to me that the whole evolution package would be more than a recommended package for gnome-do
[16:23] <charlie-tca> I think recommends are installed along with depends now.
[16:24] <charlie-tca> Go into Synaptic Package Manager -> Preferences, and uncheck "Consider recommended packages as dependencies"
[16:24] <charlie-tca> That is checked by default
[16:25] <charlie-tca> bbl
[16:27] <ochosi> charlie-tca, thanks! that's what i was looking for
[16:27] <ochosi> charlie-tca, how come this also affects apt-get and aptitude?
[16:30] <charlie-tca> I don't know the answer. I just know where to find it
[16:30] <ochosi> np, i'll keep looking myself
[16:30] <ochosi> thanks for now!
[16:31] <charlie-tca> It might not affect them. They have their own options, if you try apt-get --help
[16:31] <charlie-tca> You have to tell them them to not install recommends, but I can't remember how
[16:32] <ochosi> on the one hand that's true (about the options), on the other hand i'm quite sure their default behaviour was (just as with synaptic) not to treat recommends as depends
[17:28] <asma> salut tout le monde
[17:29] <asma> j'ai perdu mon est s q quelq'un peut m'aider merci
[17:29] <asma> j'ai perdu mon bureau
[17:31] <MTec007> i have a real good question. how do i fix an parse error in /etc/sudoers ?!
[17:31] <MTec007> i can't sudo to open the file...
[17:40] <rsarson> hello everyone.  does anyone know how to save the display refresh rate?  i can change it as a user, but it reverts back after i reboot.  when i tried to change the refresh rate using "sudo xfce4-display-settings", nothing happened after i hit reply.
[17:40] <rsarson> sorry... "apply"
[18:12] <DetroitLibertyPe> rsarson: I'm getting the same problem since updating to 9.04
[18:12] <DetroitLibertyPe> You may want to submit a bug report
[18:14] <SiDi> Which problem ?
[18:17] <rsarson> Sidi: i was asking why i can't save my display settings.
[18:17] <SiDi> Intel card ?
[18:18] <DetroitLibertyPe> SiDi: I'm really not sure which card I'm using
[18:19] <SiDi> lspci | grep VGA
[18:19] <SiDi> ;)
[18:19] <DetroitLibertyPe> I know I didn't have the problem on 8.10 or 8.04
[18:21] <rsarson> i have an ATI Rage 128 AGP
[18:21] <SiDi> rsarson, wow :)
[18:22] <SiDi> rsarson, i think you wont be able to solve the problem then. 9.04 came with a new version of the X graphics server, and i dont think there will ever be drivers for the Rage pro cards
[18:22] <SiDi> I would advise you to use 8.04, and to use PPAs to get updated versions of your favourite apps and of XFCE
[18:22] <SiDi> !ppa
[18:23] <DetroitLibertyPe> !ppa
[18:23] <rsarson> i can change the settings, they just don't save when i reboot.
[18:23] <DetroitLibertyPe> SiDi:What the heck is this ! command you activated in here?
[18:24] <moodog> evening :)
[18:24] <SiDi> hi moodog
[18:24] <SiDi> !xorg
[18:24] <SiDi> rsarson, open the last link please
[18:25] <SiDi> rsarson, 4th part
[18:47] <rsarson> Sidi:  thanks for the link.  i tried to add an xrandr line to the end of gdm.conf, but it didn't take.  my xorg.conf file is empty and i don't have an .xprofile file.  should i mess around with xorg or am i just using the wrong gdm startup script?
[18:48] <SiDi> you should mess around, definately :)
[18:48] <SiDi> (note that you should also save personal data)
[19:01] <Slonkie> Would it be a possibility to make the grub loading time 0 seconds?
[19:02] <rsarson> Sidi: i made an .xprofile file with an xrandr line and it worked.  that's a good start, though i'd prefer to happen by the login screen.  and i just realized, i used gdm.conf, because it was on my system, but i use xfce... does that matter?
[19:03] <SiDi> we use GDM in Xubuntu too
[19:03] <SiDi> the .xprofile file is in your home folder right ?
[19:03] <SiDi> maybe you can try to copy it to /etc/xprofile and see what happens ?
[19:03] <rsarson> ya.
[19:04] <SiDi> hm
[19:04] <SiDi> no, forget, thats a dumb idea :p
[19:04] <SiDi> (it would just use that profile for any user, but it wouldnt solve the problem with GDM at all)
[19:06] <rsarson> so if adding the xrandr line to gdm.conf doesn't work, where should i add it?
[19:06] <Ben_Cs> hello
[19:06] <Ben_Cs> does conky work fine with xubuntu?
[19:07] <Pres-Gas> Ben_Cs, funny, I was just getting ready to play with that this week  :P
[19:07] <Ben_Cs> Pres-Gas: it works great on fluxbox
[19:08] <Ben_Cs> but i wonder how to integrate it into xfce desktop
[19:08] <Pres-Gas> Ben_Cs, I would say that if it works with flux and gnome, it should be okay...unfortunately I am not ready to dive into that yet
[19:09] <Ben_Cs> Pres-Gas:ok
[19:14] <MTec007> i have a real good question. how do i fix an parse error in /etc/sudoers ?! i can't sudo to open the file...
[19:35] <DetroitLibertyPe> in 9.04 CTRL+ALT+ESC no longer activates xkill, how do I renable?
[19:37] <MTec007> on my system (i didnt changeit ) its ctrl meta esc
[19:37] <MTec007> but settings -> Keyboard -> application shortcuts is where to find it
[19:41] <DetroitLibertyPe> mtec007: what is "meta"
[19:42] <DetroitLibertyPe> is there a difference in IRC between mtec007 and MTec007?
[19:43] <MTec007> i dont know what meta is
[19:44] <MTec007> i dont think so
[19:45] <MTec007> but you can change it back to ctrl alt esc
[19:47] <MTec007> yeah i just set mine to use ctrl alt esc as well
[19:52] <DetroitLibertyPe> [quote/] on my system (i didnt changeit ) its ctrl meta esc [quote] how can you not know what meta is?
[19:52] <MTec007> i dont know what meta is.?
[19:53] <MTec007> but settings -> Keyboard -> application shortcuts is where to find it     <-- this will tell you what the keyboard shortcut is for things on your system
[19:53] <MTec007> it says ctrl meta esc, i dont need to know what meta is to read that
[19:54] <MTec007> i dont know what xkill is and i havnt used it, so..
[19:57] <knome> DetroitLibertyPe, i suppose meta is alt
[20:03] <DetroitLibertyPe> knome: as in a different keyboard configuration? (FR vs. US for example)?
[20:03] <genii> meta is usually the "Windows" key
[20:03] <genii> (or super - one or the other)
[20:04] <DetroitLibertyPe> MTec007:xkill is a very helpful tool, it will turn your mouse into a scull & cross bones and allow you to force kill any application who's window you clikc with the skkull
[20:05] <DetroitLibertyPe> my old machine gets really slow and this short cut has saved an otherwise dead/frozen/crashed session more than a time or two
[20:12] <MTec007> oh
[20:32] <likemindead> Anyone else
[20:33] <likemindead> derr...
[20:33] <likemindead> Anyone else's Xorg acting up after this morning's updates?
[20:38] <likemindead> http://imagebin.org/51227
[20:38] <likemindead> ^-- My current htop.
[20:39] <likemindead> What is that weird Xorg line?
[20:44] <MTec007> i have a real good question. how do i fix an parse error in /etc/sudoers ?! i can't sudo to open the file to edit it...
[20:46] <charlie-tca> Use a liveCD to start the system, mount the drive, then edit the file directly
[20:46] <SiDi> DetroitLibertyPe, just add it back to keyboard shortcuts
[20:46] <SiDi> Meta is another name for Alt afaik
[20:46] <MTec007> charlie-tca, is there another way
[20:47] <SiDi> genii, super (or cmd on macs, afair) is the win key
[20:48] <charlie-tca> Restart, try recovery menu from the grub menu. Choose root, then edit the file directly.
[20:48] <charlie-tca> MTec007: ^^
[20:48] <MTec007> ok
[20:48] <charlie-tca> If you can't edit it using sudo, you have to do it another way
[20:48] <MTec007> like how?
[20:52] <likemindead> root shell?
[20:53] <MTec007> k