=== salgado-afk is now known as salgado [15:01] so are we still doing the reviewer's meeting? [15:03] mars: I held barry up [15:03] he should be free in a few mimutes [15:04] #startmeeting [15:04] Meeting started at 09:04. The chair is barry. [15:04] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [15:04] hello and welcome to this week's ameu reviewer's meeting. who's here today? [15:04] me [15:04] me [15:04] me, and I didn't do what I was supposed to yet :-P [15:04] me [15:04] me [15:04] rockstar: sends his apologies [15:05] gary_poster: oh well, next week [15:05] :-) [15:05] allenap: ping [15:05] bac: ping [15:05] BjornT: ping [15:05] me [15:05] cprov: ping [15:05] danilos: ping [15:05] me [15:05] me [15:05] me [15:05] EdwinGrubbs: ping [15:06] me [15:06] flacoste: ping [15:06] me [15:06] gmb: ping [15:06] me [15:06] salgado: ping [15:06] just another minute... [15:06] me [15:07] [TOPIC] agenda [15:07] New Topic: agenda [15:07] it's a light one today, not surprisingly [15:07] me [15:07] * Roll call [15:07] * Action items [15:07] * Mentoring update [15:07] * Peanut gallery (anything not on the agenda) [15:07] [TOPIC] action items [15:07] New Topic: action items [15:07] we already know about gary_poster :) [15:07] * flacoste to work on API reviewer cheat sheet [15:07] :-) [15:08] * flacoste whistles innocently [15:08] we already know about flacoste :) [15:08] do we still need it? [15:08] i think we do [15:08] paradoxically [15:08] lol [15:08] we've done quite good without it for a long tim [15:08] time, even [15:08] well [15:08] ok, let me rephrase the question: is it worth keeping it in the agenda? [15:09] maybe not [15:09] i know i need to do it [15:09] flacoste: i'll remove it. [15:09] there is a lot of tricky issues in API export that are often missed === You're now known as ubuntulog [15:09] updating the URLs being an obvious one [15:09] but i still think it would be a good thing to have [15:09] but often things about the use of readonly [15:10] the naming conventions are kind of understood [15:10] esp. because this will go in our dev wiki so it will be helpful to outside contributors [15:10] btw, in the coming weeks we should be able to use launchpadlib for API testing within launchpad [15:10] flacoste: as a buildout benefit? [15:10] once gary moves zope to buildout and we update all the lazr.* packages to the latest version [15:10] barry: right on [15:11] nice! [15:11] btw, anybody noticed the improved tags with buildout? [15:11] flacoste: not yet! [15:11] try it out! you can jump to symbol in the stdlib or stuff in any eggs [15:12] flacoste: bin/tags tracebacks for me [15:12] oops [15:12] ok, we'll look into this [15:12] flacoste: cool, thanks! [15:12] between that and jml most awesome emacs module, you will never lose a symbol again [15:13] moving on... [15:13] [TOPIC] mentoring update [15:13] New Topic: mentoring update [15:13] any feedback from mentors or mentats? [15:13] I think it is time for Henning to graduate [15:13] adeuring: soon as he shows up to a reviewer's meeting [15:14] I'm still enjoying Celso's mentoring :), looking forward to getting back into it tomorrow after the 2 week break. [15:14] adeuring: serious, that's great [15:14] noodles775: excellent! [15:14] BTW: I think he's resting from Ubuflu at the moment... [15:14] :( [15:14] cool, anything else? [15:15] [TOPIC] peanut gallery [15:15] New Topic: peanut gallery [15:15] anybody have anything not on the agenda? any barcelonan epiphanies about reviews? [15:16] remind your mentats to land javascript branches with [js] in the commit message [15:16] Now that bzr 1.5 is out, everyone should check out bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Elaunchpad/lpreview-body/trunk/ [15:16] T‎his is a bzr plugin that automatically sets the message body for an lp review request to our standard template, and includes lint output. [15:16] intellectronica: do we have a pqm regexp for that now? [15:17] niice [15:17] err, sorry, was preparing a tea. [15:17] Of course, this only works with bzr send, so this is a good reason for everyone to use bzr send. [15:17] barry: no. we'd have to inspect the diff for something like that to work [15:17] cprov: you're meant to be sleeping off your headache :) [15:18] barry: noodles775 is doing great reviews, his graduation will come soon too. [15:18] intellectronica: so is this a [js=somebody] tag? [15:18] cprov: fantastic [15:18] barry: no, just [js] [15:18] to indicate that the branch requires testing on multiple platforms [15:18] abentley: bzr send is good, can you email the list about the plugin as well [15:19] Also, with the recent launchpad changes, you don't need to push before you send, and you don't need to use lpsend or send --no-bundle. [15:19] barry, it is just a flag to QA that somebody needs to look at the branch in all the browsers [15:19] abentley: perhaps document it on dev.launchpad.net as well [15:19] intellectronica: k. do all devs know about that? maybe a msg to launchpad@ to remind people? [15:19] barry: we already had a message. i can send another one [15:19] danilos: Okay, but I already emailed the list, and no one responded, so I thought I should bring it up here. [15:19] intellectronica: might not be a bad idea to remind people [15:20] abentley: ^^ :) [15:20] abentley: I am certainly going to check it out [15:20] abentley: yes, document on the dev wiki, and this sounds awesome [15:21] barry: will do. [15:21] abentley: thanks! [15:22] anything else guys? [15:22] 5 [15:22] 4 [15:22] barry: It's not open-source, so does it make sense to document on the dev wiki? [15:23] abentley: i think it's fine. i'd still rather have one place to find relevant information, but i'll leave it up to you [15:23] abentley: is there any reason it /can't/ be open source? [15:24] barry: Needs signoff from Mark or the holy trinity, and that hasn't happened yet. [15:24] abentley: ok. i'd say document it on the dev wiki and we can work toward open sourcing it [15:24] barry: The ball is currently in kiko's court on open-sourcing. [15:25] abentley: let's keep the jfdi pressure on kiko then! :) [15:25] anybody have anything else? [15:25] barry: See https://wiki.canonical.com/OpenSource/Process [15:26] yeah [15:26] 5 [15:26] 4 [15:26] 3 [15:26] 2 [15:26] 1 [15:26] #endmeeting [15:26] Meeting finished at 09:26. [15:26] thanks everyone! [15:26] cheers barry [15:27] barry: thx === gary_poster is now known as gary_poster-fud === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch === gary_poster-fud is now known as gary_poster === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado