[15:01] <mars> so are we still doing the reviewer's meeting?
[15:03] <sinzui> mars: I held barry up
[15:03] <sinzui> he should be free in a few mimutes
[15:04] <barry> #startmeeting
[15:04] <MootBot> Meeting started at 09:04. The chair is barry.
[15:04] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[15:04] <barry> hello and welcome to this week's ameu reviewer's meeting.  who's here today?
[15:04] <sinzui> me
[15:04] <mars> me
[15:04] <gary_poster> me, and I didn't do what I was supposed to yet :-P
[15:04] <noodles775> me
[15:04] <adeuring> me
[15:04] <barry> rockstar: sends his apologies
[15:05] <barry> gary_poster: oh well, next week <wink>
[15:05] <gary_poster> :-)
[15:05] <barry> allenap: ping
[15:05] <barry> bac: ping
[15:05] <barry> BjornT: ping
[15:05] <bac> me
[15:05] <barry> cprov: ping
[15:05] <barry> danilos: ping
[15:05] <allenap> me
[15:05] <intellectronica> me
[15:05] <abentley> me
[15:05] <barry> EdwinGrubbs: ping
[15:06] <EdwinGrubbs> me
[15:06] <barry> flacoste: ping
[15:06] <flacoste> me
[15:06] <barry> gmb: ping
[15:06] <cprov> me
[15:06] <barry> salgado: ping
[15:06] <barry> just another minute...
[15:06] <danilos> me
[15:07] <barry> [TOPIC] agenda
[15:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  agenda
[15:07] <barry> it's a light one today, not surprisingly
[15:07] <salgado> me
[15:07] <barry>  * Roll call
[15:07] <barry>  * Action items
[15:07] <barry>  * Mentoring update
[15:07] <barry>  * Peanut gallery (anything not on the agenda)
[15:07] <barry> [TOPIC] action items
[15:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  action items
[15:07] <barry> we already know about gary_poster :)
[15:07] <barry>  * flacoste to work on API reviewer cheat sheet
[15:07] <gary_poster> :-)
[15:08]  * flacoste whistles innocently
[15:08] <barry> we already know about flacoste :)
[15:08] <danilos> do we still need it?
[15:08] <flacoste> i think we do
[15:08] <flacoste> paradoxically
[15:08] <noodles775> lol
[15:08] <intellectronica> we've done quite good without it for a long tim
[15:08] <intellectronica> time, even
[15:08] <flacoste> well
[15:08] <danilos> ok, let me rephrase the question: is it worth keeping it in the agenda?
[15:09] <flacoste> maybe not
[15:09] <flacoste> i know i need to do it
[15:09] <barry> flacoste: i'll remove it.
[15:09] <flacoste> there is a lot of tricky issues in API export that are often missed
[15:09] <flacoste> updating the URLs being an obvious one
[15:09] <barry> but i still think it would be a good thing to have
[15:09] <flacoste> but often things about the use of readonly
[15:10] <flacoste> the naming conventions are kind of understood
[15:10] <barry> esp. because this will go in our dev wiki so it will be helpful to outside contributors
[15:10] <flacoste> btw, in the coming weeks we should be able to use launchpadlib for API testing within launchpad
[15:10] <barry> flacoste: as a buildout benefit?
[15:10] <flacoste> once gary moves zope to buildout and we update all the lazr.* packages to the latest version
[15:10] <flacoste> barry: right on
[15:11] <barry> nice!
[15:11] <flacoste> btw, anybody noticed the improved tags with buildout?
[15:11] <barry> flacoste: not yet!
[15:11] <flacoste> try it out! you can jump to symbol in the stdlib or stuff in any eggs
[15:12] <barry> flacoste: bin/tags tracebacks for me
[15:12] <flacoste> oops
[15:12] <flacoste> ok, we'll look into this
[15:12] <barry> flacoste: cool, thanks!
[15:12] <barry> between that and jml most awesome emacs module, you will never lose a symbol again
[15:13] <barry> moving on...
[15:13] <barry> [TOPIC] mentoring update
[15:13] <MootBot> New Topic:  mentoring update
[15:13] <barry> any feedback from mentors or mentats?
[15:13] <adeuring> I think it is time for Henning to graduate
[15:13] <barry> adeuring: soon as he shows up to a reviewer's meeting <wink>
[15:14] <noodles775> I'm still enjoying Celso's mentoring :), looking forward to getting back into it tomorrow after the 2 week break.
[15:14] <barry> adeuring: serious, that's great
[15:14] <barry> noodles775: excellent!
[15:14] <noodles775> BTW: I think he's resting from Ubuflu at the moment...
[15:14] <barry> :(
[15:14] <barry> cool, anything else?
[15:15] <barry> [TOPIC] peanut gallery
[15:15] <MootBot> New Topic:  peanut gallery
[15:15] <barry> anybody have anything not on the agenda?  any barcelonan epiphanies about reviews?
[15:16] <intellectronica> remind your mentats to land javascript branches with [js] in the commit message
[15:16] <abentley> Now that bzr 1.5 is out, everyone should check out bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Elaunchpad/lpreview-body/trunk/
[15:16] <abentley> T‎his is a bzr plugin that automatically sets the message body for an lp review request to our standard template, and includes lint output.
[15:16] <barry> intellectronica: do we have a pqm regexp for that now?
[15:17] <noodles775> niice
[15:17] <cprov> err, sorry, was preparing a tea.
[15:17] <abentley> Of course, this only works with bzr send, so this is a good reason for everyone to use bzr send.
[15:17] <intellectronica> barry: no. we'd have to inspect the diff for something like that to work
[15:17] <noodles775> cprov: you're meant to be sleeping off your headache :)
[15:18] <cprov> barry: noodles775 is doing great reviews, his graduation will come soon too.
[15:18] <barry> intellectronica: so is this a [js=somebody] tag?
[15:18] <barry> cprov: fantastic
[15:18] <intellectronica> barry: no, just [js]
[15:18] <intellectronica> to indicate that the branch requires testing on multiple platforms
[15:18] <danilos> abentley: bzr send is good, can you email the list about the plugin as well
[15:19] <abentley> Also, with the recent launchpad changes, you don't need to push before you send, and you don't need to use lpsend or send --no-bundle.
[15:19] <mars> barry, it is just a flag to QA that somebody needs to look at the branch in all the browsers
[15:19] <danilos> abentley: perhaps document it on dev.launchpad.net as well
[15:19] <barry> intellectronica: k.  do all devs know about that?  maybe a msg to launchpad@ to remind people?
[15:19] <intellectronica> barry: we already had a message. i can send another one
[15:19] <abentley> danilos: Okay, but I already emailed the list, and no one responded, so I thought I should bring it up here.
[15:19] <barry> intellectronica: might not be a bad idea to remind people
[15:20] <danilos> abentley: ^^ :)
[15:20] <danilos> abentley: I am certainly going to check it out
[15:20] <barry> abentley: yes, document on the dev wiki, and this sounds awesome
[15:21] <abentley> barry: will do.
[15:21] <barry> abentley: thanks!
[15:22] <barry> anything else guys?
[15:22] <barry> 5
[15:22] <barry> 4
[15:22] <abentley> barry: It's not open-source, so does it make sense to document on the dev wiki?
[15:23] <barry> abentley: i think it's fine.  i'd still rather have one place to find relevant information, but i'll leave it up to you
[15:23] <barry> abentley: is there any reason it /can't/ be open source?
[15:24] <abentley> barry: Needs signoff from Mark or the holy trinity, and that hasn't happened yet.
[15:24] <barry> abentley: ok.  i'd say document it on the dev wiki and we can work toward open sourcing it
[15:24] <abentley> barry: The ball is currently in kiko's court on open-sourcing.
[15:25] <barry> abentley: let's keep the jfdi pressure on kiko then! :)
[15:25] <barry> anybody have anything else?
[15:25] <abentley> barry: See https://wiki.canonical.com/OpenSource/Process
[15:26] <barry> yeah
[15:26] <barry> 5
[15:26] <barry> 4
[15:26] <barry> 3
[15:26] <barry> 2
[15:26] <barry> 1
[15:26] <barry> #endmeeting
[15:26] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 09:26.
[15:26] <barry> thanks everyone!
[15:26] <noodles775> cheers barry
[15:27] <abentley> barry: thx