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Ampelbeinthumper: thanks! that's what i love about ubuntu/FOSS - you get help quick and good.00:00
thumpernp00:01
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micahghow long until stuff uploaded shows up in a PPA?00:12
beunomicahg, about 20 minutes or so00:15
cody-somervillebeuno, much quicker than that00:16
micahgit showed up, thanks :)  was my first package00:17
beunocody-somerville, I like to under-promise00:19
javaJakespm: yesterday I requested a rename that was wrong... would you mind fixing it for me? https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/7284000:21
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spmjavaJake: heh. re-fixed00:45
javaJakespm: awesome! :)00:45
neurobuntuhow long will it take for packages to show up in a ppa after I run dput?00:55
cody-somervilleneurobuntu, a few minutes00:56
neurobuntuthanks00:56
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wgrantcody-somerville: Hi.01:00
neurobuntuhow can I tell debuild which key to sign with during build?01:02
wgrantneurobuntu: -kKEYID01:02
neurobuntuwgrant, I've tried that but for some reason dpkg-buildpackage is getting run with -us -uc01:04
neurobuntudebuild -kC1F83B3D -rfakeroot -S01:05
neurobuntu dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -d -us -uc -sa -i -I -S01:05
wgrantneurobuntu: debuild uses debsign to do the signing, not dpkg-buildpackage.01:06
neurobuntuok thanks01:07
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WanderingKnighthey there02:59
WanderingKnightquestion, I just got a bzr branch for a project approved on launchpad, but I can't seem to commit on that branch02:59
WanderingKnightI bzr lp-login, and when I try to commit I get Transport operation not possible: readonly transport03:00
wgrantWanderingKnight: How did you get the branch?03:00
WanderingKnightI imported it03:04
wgrantI mean, how did you check it out?03:05
WanderingKnightbzr checkout03:05
wgrantWith what URL?03:05
WanderingKnightlp:projectname03:05
wgrantWhat is the project?03:05
WanderingKnightanimeplayer03:05
wgrantAh.03:06
wgrantThat's owned by ~vcs-imports, so you don't have access. Imports are read-only, and are for projects that don't use bzr as their primary VCS.03:06
WanderingKnightoh03:06
wgrantWas it your intention to move to bzr rather than svn?03:07
WanderingKnightyep03:07
wgrantLet me find a guide on that...03:07
WanderingKnightI had my svn repo on sourceforge, but I found that it actually kind of sucked, so I decided to move it to bzr...03:08
wgranthttp://bazaar-vcs.org/BzrMigration is the relevant page.03:09
wgrantI'd probably use bzr-svn.03:09
wgrant(that's how I migrated my project)03:09
* thumper wants to get bzr-svn used for subversion imports03:09
thumperrather than cscvs03:09
wgrantthumper: yes please :D03:09
wgrantIt's quite stable now.03:09
* thumper nods03:09
thumperwe just have more work than people03:09
WanderingKnighthm, but the guys at launchpad supposedly imported the sourceforge svn to a launchpad bzr branch03:10
wgrantThey did, yes.03:10
thumperWanderingKnight: you can branch the lp copy03:10
thumperWanderingKnight: then push it to launchpad so you own it03:10
WanderingKnightmmm03:10
thumperWanderingKnight: then get the subversion one stopped03:10
thumperWanderingKnight: then make your branch the trunk branch03:10
wgrantbzr-svn might not give much benefit if you haven't already used bzr-svn on the branch, I guess.03:10
WanderingKnightI'm not worried about the svn branch since I'm the only one committing to that project for now03:11
thumperWanderingKnight: normal bzr usage is to use local branches rather than checkouts03:11
WanderingKnightso how should I go about doing it? do I delete the .bzr directory and start over?03:12
thumperWanderingKnight: you don't have to do that03:13
WanderingKnightoh03:13
thumperWanderingKnight: I think you can just unbind03:13
thumperand push03:13
thumpera checkout is a bound branch03:13
thumperas in bound to the remote one03:13
thumperI'm not entirely sure but something like `bzr unbind` may work03:14
* thumper looks at bzr help03:14
wgrantIt should.03:14
WanderingKnighttrying that now03:14
wgrantbzr unbind, then bzr push03:14
WanderingKnightgetting the same...03:14
thumperbzr push --remember lp:~you/project/trunk03:14
* thumper wanders off, back shortly03:15
WanderingKnightseems it worked now03:16
wgrantNow you go to https://launchpad.net/animeplayer/trunk/+edit, and change the branch to yours.03:17
wgrantThen you convince thumper to delete the old one.03:17
WanderingKnightwgrant: so how do I change the branch to mine?03:18
wgrantWanderingKnight: Enter its name or search for it in the second-bottom field on that page.03:18
WanderingKnightchange from ~vcs-imports to ~myusername?03:18
wgrantWhatever you pushed the branch to, without the 'lp:'03:19
WanderingKnightok :)03:19
wgrantThe branch set on that page is the one that appears as lp:animeplayer03:19
WanderingKnightnow I'm getting that the paths aren't versionede03:20
WanderingKnight*versioned03:20
wgrantWhat are you doing?03:20
WanderingKnightbzr commit lp:~bla/bla/bla03:20
wgrantAh. That tells it to commit a file named lp:~bla/bla/bla03:21
wgrantWhich probably doesn't exist.03:21
WanderingKnightwell, replace lp:~bla/bla/bla to the branch I pushed to03:21
wgrantJust 'bzr commit' will commit to the local copy of the branch. Then you can 'bzr push', and that will push the changes to wherever you pushed it before.03:21
WanderingKnightoh03:21
WanderingKnightI get it now03:21
WanderingKnightthanks :)03:21
wgrantYou can 'bzr bind', which will automatically push commits.03:21
WanderingKnightoh03:22
WanderingKnightthank you :D03:22
wgrantThe difference between a checkout and a branch is just that a checkout is bound. So 'bzr up' in a checkout automatically gets changes from the server, and 'bzr commit' pushes them automagically. In a branch, you have to 'bzr pull' and 'bzr push' manually.03:22
WanderingKnighthmm, seems like it's binding to the 'old' branch03:23
WanderingKnightthe ~vcs-imports one03:23
wgrantOh, possibly. Try 'bzr bind lp:whatever'.03:23
WanderingKnightoh ok03:23
wgrantOnce you do that, it should remember.03:24
WanderingKnightthank you, now it works :)03:24
wgrantExcellent.03:24
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MTecknologyHow do I merge two branches?05:26
tc-ruchoHow do I erase a project?05:27
MTecknologytc-rucho: Ask answers.launchpad.net/launchpad05:28
MTecknologytc-rucho: Projects can't be simply dropped. They can be deleted, but generally they're disabled and hidden in case they need to be reactivated05:28
tc-ruchoMTecknology: in this case, I just registered them before I was sure about the name so as to reserve the name. Now I'd like to make those that were not chosen available05:30
MTecknologytc-rucho: just file a question explaining that05:30
thumperMTecknology: you meed to merge them locally, launchpad doesn't do it for you05:31
thumper(yet)05:31
MTecknologythumper: when I do it, will the person that made the changes show up for the commit then?05:33
MTecknologyor will it only merge the changes?05:34
lifelesstc-rucho: (a question on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad)05:34
tc-rucholifeless: on my way05:35
lifelessMTecknology: bzr tracks the origin of lines05:35
MTecknologyoh, thanks05:37
MTecknologyso if I bzr merge lp:stuff, then bzr commit -m "Merging blah", bzr push, it'll work right?05:38
thumperMTecknology: yes, but you may want to attribute the author in the commit05:38
thumperwith --author I think05:38
MTecknologyoh05:38
thumperMTecknology: launchpad uses the apparent author05:38
MTecknologydamn then... I wish I could revert :P05:39
MTecknologyhu?05:39
thumperMTecknology: bzr uncommit05:39
spmthumper: are there any plans for lauchpad to write my project's code for me? sorta like I just wave a hand at launchpad to "JFDI" and magic happens?05:39
thumperspm: yes, just after we enable skynet05:39
spmhahahahahahahahaha05:39
MTecknologywoah05:40
MTecknologyneato05:40
MTecknologythumper: how do I push that then?05:40
MTecknologyso it's gone on lp.net?05:40
thumperbzr push05:40
thumperbzr push --overwrite05:40
MTecknologyWOW05:41
MTecknologythat's cool05:41
wgrantIt's bzr. What do you expect?05:41
tc-rucholifeless: ready05:42
spmwgrant: bzr pull --and-a-pony ?05:42
* wgrant tramples spm05:42
MTecknologyI knew bzr was awesome - I didn't know how awesome05:43
spmso I've been awake since 2am and probably getting a little silly from excessive tiredness :-)05:43
wgrantspm: Ouch!05:43
MTecknologyso - do I just use --author or do I use --author=user05:44
spmwgrant: well. it's not *all* bad. I'm amazed how much losa work I was able to get done from 4.30-6am :-)05:44
thumperMTecknology: I think you do --author="Eric the Viking <eric@example.com>" or something05:45
thumpermaybe05:45
thumpernot quite sure how to handle the spaces05:45
MTecknologyok05:45
thumperI've not done it myself05:45
thumperMTecknology: you could ask on #bzr05:46
MTecknologyI'll just try it and see how it goes05:46
thumperok05:46
MTecknologythe worst I need to do is uncommit :P05:46
MTecknology:D05:46
* thumper nods05:48
lifelessMTecknology: you should use author when a) you do a cherrypick of someone elses work or b) someone sends you a plain text patch05:48
lifelessMTecknology: you don't need to use it when doing a merge05:48
MTecknologyoh05:49
MTecknologyI just did -> bzr commit -m "Merge Proposal 7003, Fix bug 382294" --author="Ddorda <email@domain.com>" --fixes=lp:38229405:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 382294 in ubuntu-drupal-theme "Need a style-rtl.css file for RTL languages" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38229405:49
MTecknology - ubottu: I didn't need to to respond then...05:50
lifelessMTecknology: if that was merging someone elses commit then the --author was unnecessary05:50
lifelessbzr knows that the lines were done in their commits05:50
lifelessannotate will show the right info05:50
MTecknologyok05:51
wgrantlifeless: But Launchpad won't show it, will it?05:52
wgrantIt doesn't show merges.05:52
thumperwgrant: not yet05:52
lifelesswgrant: a single commit may have hundreds of authors when you consider version jumps or projects like tje kernel05:52
MTecknologyI'll be happy to see the ability to do bzr merge lp:main lp:~user/contrib05:53
wgrantlifeless: This is true/05:53
lifelesswgrant: [because its a merge of a lot of work].  So yes, lp's main ui doesn't show it yet. But it will05:53
MTecknologyor something similar05:53
MTecknologydang... lp is cool how it manages merges05:54
MTecknologyI suppose when all is said and done - the merge will be able to be done from the merge proposal05:55
lifelessMTecknology: it can yes, though you need to truncate the url slightly05:56
MTecknologyit can already?05:57
wgrantIt can't.05:57
MTecknologyk, you had me excited :P05:57
wgrantAlthough you can have tarmac watching and doing it automatically.05:57
wgrantThrough the wonder of the modern world that is the Launchpad webservice.05:58
MTecknologylaunchpad isn't a web service... it's a server that does a lot of crazy shit that has an insanely powerful web front end05:59
MTecknologyanyway - I'm off05:59
MTecknologyttyal05:59
wgrantThe webservice == the lazr.restful API06:00
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ilmeditafugaHI ! how to contact the launchpad team of Friulian traslation ?08:00
noodles775ilmeditafuga: on the page: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-fur08:05
noodles775click 'Contact this team'08:05
Robin_1Hi, jml is here?08:10
jmlRobin_1: hi08:11
ilmeditafuganow I try08:11
Robin_1jml: I am the scut-tang in launchpad, and my branch lp:~scut-tang/mysql-08:12
Robin_1server/mysql-6.0-infoschema is disabled.08:12
jmlRobin_1: ahh yes.08:12
Robin_1I am new in launch, what happened?08:13
jmlRobin_1: an unexpected internal error.08:13
Robin_1jml:Can it fix?08:13
jmlRobin_1: yeah. we've figured out exactly what went wrong, and will be fixing it over the next day or two.08:14
Robin_1jml: I must update my code every week.08:14
Robin_1jml: OK, What I need to do now is waiting?08:14
jmlRobin_1: basically, yes.08:15
Robin_1jml: Thank you. I am looking forward to your good news. If fixed, could you send me a email?08:16
jmlRobin_1: sure thing. but probably the easiest thing for you to do is subscribe to the bug I mentioned in the email08:17
Robin_1jml: How to do it?08:18
jmlRobin_1: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+bug/382795 <-- click on the green "Subscribe" link on the right-hand side of the page08:19
ubottuUbuntu bug 382795 in launchpad-code "mirror-branch using too much memory" [Critical,In progress]08:19
jmlRobin_1: you'll then get emailed with any changes we make to that bug.08:19
Robin_1jml: Roger.08:21
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bialixhi, I have problem with downloadable files at release page: https://launchpad.net/qbzr/trunk/0.10.0. None of these files could be actually downloaded. Every time I get error page (seems like 404) with the text: There’s no page with this address in Launchpad.09:57
bialixis it known problem or I broke something?09:57
spivbialix: those download links work for me.09:58
bialixbut does not work for me09:58
spivbialix: e.g. I just downloaded qbzr-0.10.0.tar.gz just fine09:58
bialixand for craig (problem reported in qbzr ML)09:58
spivand qbzr-setup-0.10.exe is working too.09:59
bialixI'm just click on file in Firefox and get error page09:59
spivThat's weird.09:59
bialixand right-click + save the object does not work too10:00
bialixam I in blacklist or something?10:00
spivI don't think we have that sort of blacklist.10:00
spivPerhaps there's a weird HTTP proxy on your end?  Most launchpad pages are served over HTTPS, but not download files.10:01
sorenbialix: Can you paste the *exact* url shown in the address field where you see that error message?10:02
bialixwait a sec, I'll make screenshot10:02
sorenWell.. Just the URL should be fine, but a screenshot is also fine.10:03
spivOk, it appears to be a bug that's fixed on edge.10:04
sorenspiv: Oh, it's...10:04
sorenright, what you just said :)10:05
bialixsoren: http://bialix.com/qbzr/error-lp.png10:05
spivOn edge, I get URLs like: http://edge.launchpad.net/qbzr/trunk/0.10.0/+download/qbzr-setup-0.10.exe10:05
spivOn production, I get 404ing URLs like: http://launchpad.net/qbzr/+milestone/0.10.0/+download/qbzr-setup-0.10.exe10:05
bialixthe same here10:05
spivSo, as a workaround, point people at https://edge.launchpad.net/qbzr/trunk/0.10.010:05
bialixok10:06
bialixnot it's not ok actually, but thanks for workaround10:06
spiv:)10:06
wgrantspiv, bialix: That's bug #378740, fixed yesterday.10:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 378740 in launchpad-registry "Invalid download link in milestone/release context" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37874010:09
wgrantOne would think it would qualify for a CP.10:09
bialixCP?10:09
wgrantA cherrypick of the fix onto launchpad.net.10:10
wgrantRather than waiting for Launchpad 2.2.6 to be released.10:10
bialixyes, this is very serious regression IMO10:11
wgrantQuite a few people have asked here about it. And I'm sure lots more just thought that Launchpad was yet another broken webapp not worthy of any interest.10:11
bialixbtw, new release UI is much better. now release is clearly joined to milestone10:14
bialixbut still UI is a bit weird10:14
spivwgrant: thanks, I just left a comment on the bug asking about a cherrypick.10:15
wgrantspiv: Thanks.10:15
wgrantbialix: What's still weird about it?10:15
bialixit's not clear what is "release notes" and why needed "changelog".10:16
bialixperhaps there is help somewhere, I don't know10:17
bialixI can't close all Fix Committed bugs when milestone going to inactive, this is really boring10:17
bialixI mean "close automatically"10:17
wgrantbialix: There are scripts around to do that with launchpadlib.10:17
wgrantArgh.10:18
wgrantThere are docs, but they are terribly out of date and completely useless.10:18
* wgrant files a bug.10:19
bialixI'm doing releases of QBzr ~1 year10:19
bialixmaybe I don't see all quirks because I know how to do it10:19
bialixbtw, upload interface could be better as well10:20
bialix1. will be nice to have width of description input field a bit (+30%) bigger10:20
bialixI don't see full text when I'm type something like: Windows Python installer for Python 2.410:21
bialix2. File content type droplist. How this info is used?10:21
bialixI never can figure out and many times I have temptaion to not change default value to "Installer file"10:22
bialixwell, at least make all text fileds bigger will be good improvement10:23
bialixbecause windows paths to files could be much bigger than available space10:23
wgrantI haven't actually used that UI before.10:24
* wgrant sharpens some weapons, and prepares to file bugs.10:24
bialixheh10:24
bialixmay be, (just may be) there should be additional interface for release managers needs10:25
bialixI remember someone said in #bzr about release interface: it's too hard to find how actually made release10:26
bialixi.e. you need open series page10:26
wgrantI believe that's known.10:26
bialixthen find out "Create release" link10:26
wgrantSome of this UI is getting reworked *again* soon, IIRC.10:26
bialixwell, ok10:28
bialixwill see10:28
bialixmay be some sort of control panel for project owners/release managers will help10:29
bialixI dunno10:29
bialixmore use case oriented: I want create milestone, I want create release, etc10:31
bialixseries is not very clear10:31
wgrantAny Bugs people around?10:32
oldman_hi11:02
oldman_the first initial import of two of my ~vcs-imports requests keeps failing due to LP:12099211:02
oldman_is anyone around to do a manual initial import for me? (this is how it was got around last time)11:02
oldman_future syncs work fine once this initial import has been done manually11:02
intellectronicaoldman_: i don't think there's anyone around who could help you right now. probably in a few hours. file a question and as soon as someone is available it will be looked at11:08
oldman_ok thanks11:08
oldman_intellectronica: what's the correct project to file a ~vcs-imports question against again?11:08
intellectronicaoldman_: launchpad11:09
oldman_thanks11:09
wgrantintellectronica: Aha! A Bugs person! Can you or somebody else have a look at bug #373683?11:11
ubottuBug 373683 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/373683 is private11:11
* intellectronica looks11:11
intellectronicawgrant: thanks, that's quite serious, and should be easy to fix11:12
wgrantintellectronica: Great.11:13
andrea-bsThe port 22 (ssh) on bazaar.staging.launchpad.net is closed, why?12:22
gnomefreakis there a way to grab a superceeded tarball from PPA?12:37
bigjoolsgnomefreak: yes, change the filter on the index page to see all packages, but if they're superseded more than a month ago they get removed12:38
gnomefreakbigjools: im not seeing a way to do that12:39
gnomefreakwhere is the filter found12:39
gnomefreaknevermind12:40
* gnomefreak moron today12:40
bigjools:)12:40
wgrantHow are debug archives going to work with PPAs?12:40
bigjoolsthe debug packages will live in the same repo12:40
wgrantAh.12:41
wgrantSo it's just primary archives that have a separate debug archive?12:41
bigjoolsyep12:41
bigjoolswe don't want to bother our mirrors too much :)12:41
wgrantYep.12:42
* bigjools -> lunch12:42
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dhrubaHello14:33
slayton_when writing debian/control is there anything like {$shlibs:Depends} for the build-depends field?14:39
beunoslayton_, this really isn't the channel for packaging support14:41
slayton_beuno, where should I go?14:41
beunoslayton_, maybe #ubuntu-motu?14:41
slayton_ok thanks14:41
MarcoHello.  I'm trying to contribute to a project (do-plugins) and I'm a little confused about how to go about doing things.  I registered a branch on the launchpad website, but where do I go from here?15:08
Marcoin terms of uploading to my branch15:08
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beunoMarco, have you used bzr before?15:10
Marcobeuno, no15:10
beunoMarco, https://help.launchpad.net/BzrHowto15:10
MarcoI mean, I've branched the do-plugins project to work on it obviously15:10
Marcobut that's it15:10
beunothen15:12
beunoyou need to push15:12
beunobzr push lp:~username/projectname/branchname15:12
beuno(make sure you have your ssh key set in your profile)15:12
Marcoit gives me an error about the repository already existing15:12
beunoand then I suppose you file a merge proposal against the project15:12
beunoMarco, you registered the branch in the web, right?15:13
Marcoyes15:13
beunomaybe you'll need to add --use-existing15:13
beunoor --overwrite15:13
wgrant--use-existing15:13
Marcobzr: ERROR: Target directory lp:~marco-92/do-plugins/XChat already exists, but does not have a valid .bzr directory. Supply --use-existing-dir to push there anyway.15:13
beunojml, can we please get rid of registering branches?  :)  ^15:13
wgrantIsn't the option to register a non-mirrored branch meant to go away soon?15:13
wgrantHeh15:13
beunowgrant, :)15:13
beunoMarco, do what it says15:14
beuno--use-existing-dir15:14
Marcothanks, that appears to be working15:15
wgrantYou can just push the branch in future - you don't need to register it beforehand.15:15
MarcoHow long do changes take to show up on the lp site?15:27
wgrantNormally only a couple of minutes... but there was a problem yesterday where the scanner hung.15:27
MarcoOn other people's commits, there's a link to their user page.  But when I commit, it's just my name and email in bold15:37
Marcohttps://code.launchpad.net/~marco-92/do-plugins/XChat/15:37
MarcoHow do I change that?15:37
wgrantMarco: bzr whoami "Some User <user@domain.com>"15:37
wgrantMarco: The email address needs to match one on your Launchpad account.15:38
wgrantBut that won't change the old commits.15:38
Marcothanks15:38
wgrantGiven that there's only two commits, you could probably uncommit them and recommit with the fixed email address.15:38
Marcowgrant, now it's telling me something about diverged branches15:40
wgrantMarco: bzr push --overwrite15:40
wgrantBy default, pushing will not remove revisions from the history in the destination branch.15:40
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andrea-bsrockstar, ping: I have a project that you and the rest of the Launchpad team may find useful16:31
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rockstarandrea-bs, hi16:52
andrea-bsrockstar, I just sent you a mail :)16:52
rockstarandrea-bs, okay.  I probably won't check it until later today then.16:53
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andrea-bsrockstar, I can paste the text somewhere if you wish16:55
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rockstarandrea-bs, no, it's fine.  If it's not something that needs my attention right now, I can wait.16:57
andrea-bsrockstar, ok16:57
intellectronicarockstar: someone asked for help with an import earlier and i told them to file a question. don't remember who or what but can try and dig it up16:58
intellectronicarockstar: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/7311016:59
rockstarandrea-bs, PQM-ng has already been done.  It's called Tarmac.17:19
andrea-bsrockstar, Cool, thanks. I'll give a look to it17:26
rockstarandrea-bs, I'm replying to your email now.17:27
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edayHi! Are there any known problems with broken tarball release links? I released a tarball and it works from the Download page, but not from Release/Milestone pages17:41
edayfwiw, it does seem to work on edge.launchpad.net, just not on launchpad.net17:46
persiaeday, It's a known issue, and under investigation.17:46
edaypersia: ok, thanks!17:50
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vadi2Does anyone know of terminal instructions for adding a ppa to sources.list? I'm looking about but can't find a good example.18:23
hexmodesudo sh -c 'echo deb http://ppa/url .... > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ppa.list'18:28
tsimpsonvadi2: the way I do it is edit/create /etc/apt/sources.list.d/kubuntu.list and add the sources there18:28
vadi2was hoping for a one-line command, going to try hex'18:28
tsimpsonhexmode: echo http://... | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ppa.list18:29
tsimpsonno need for sudo sh -c18:29
tsimpson*deb http://...18:29
hexmodetsimpson: thanks for the reminder... I'm so used to sudo sh...18:29
vadi2"echo deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/giftwrap/ppa/ubuntu | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ppa.list" ?18:29
tsimpsonyou need the component "main", but yeah18:30
vadi2"echo deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/giftwrap/ppa/ubuntu main | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ppa.list"18:30
tsimpson"echo deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/giftwrap/ppa/ubuntu main | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ppa.list"18:30
vadi2okay18:30
hexmodeum18:30
hexmode"jaunty main" ?18:30
tsimpsonerr, yeah18:30
tsimpson"echo deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/giftwrap/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ppa.list"18:31
* tsimpson puts his brain in gear18:31
tsimpsonif you want to append to the file, use "tee -a" instead18:32
vadi2do I?18:32
vadi2I guess I should, as others might use this18:32
tsimpsonyou only need it when you want to add lines, not for the initial write18:33
tsimpson"echo ... | tee file" is like "echo ... > file", "echo ... | tee -a file" is like "echo ... >> file"18:34
vadi2hm. I'd like something that works if they're doing it the first time, or adding too (if they've added several ppas this way)18:34
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kklimondahey, Why not all PPA repositories can be pinned using apt pinning? i.e. Not all of them has unique name like "v=9.04,o=LP-PPA-gtg,a=jaunty,l=Ubuntu,c=main"?19:15
kklimondahmm.. forget it19:15
gordhi, it seems launchpad has lost a file of mine. if you goto https://edge.launchpad.net/csl-l/trunk/littlestgoddess-1.1 and click the download link, you get a launchpad 404 page. anyone know whats happening?19:57
ubottuBug 404 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/404 is private19:57
gordoh wait, it litterally started working again just now, perculiar19:58
MarcoThe launchpad map keeps putting my location in egypt20:08
Marcono matter how many times I put the market on Miami and hit save settings20:08
Marco*marker20:08
gary_posterMarco: not the worst bug in the world, but annoying. :-)  Would you mind putting a bug in for Launchpad?  Failing that, can you tell me your user name and browser, and I'll make a bug report, mentioning it (so the report has some concrete information)?20:11
MarcoI'll gladly put in a bug20:11
gary_posterMarco: many thanks20:11
Marcogary_poster, what project name do I file the bug under?20:12
gary_posterMarco: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug20:13
Marcosubmitted it, thanks20:15
gary_postercool, ty20:15
OsamaKHello. Is there any way to get last updates on trasnaltion of specified package? (I'm interested in trasnalting more than a package, and it'd be boring if I had to check each of them..)20:42
LaPingvinotrasnalting?20:43
LaPingvinotranslating?20:43
OsamaK(e.g. <https://translations.launchpad.net/awn>)20:45
LaPingvinolemme check20:46
MarcoSay I've branched a project to work on a specific aspect.  What's the best way to keep everything except what I'm working on up to date with the main branch?20:48
LaPingvinoOsamaK: it seems RSS is missing, but then I'm not known with ALL ins and outs of Launchpad20:50
gary_posterdanilos, around?20:50
LaPingvinoMarco: pull in the changes to your branch every now and then20:51
Marcousing merge?20:51
gary_posterMarco: yeah.  bzr is very smart with that.20:51
MarcoI don't quite understand the syntax of bzr merge20:52
beunoMarco, I'd suggest going over to #bzr for help in using the tool20:53
gary_posterOsamaK: I don't know of an RSS story.  Was going to ask a translations team guy but he's not around.  Maybe put in a brainstorm?  http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/user?destination=ideatorrent/launchpad-net/submit/  or if that's too much trouble, a bug against the launchpad project?20:54
LaPingvinomerging is something every VCS can do... or am I wrong?20:54
LaPingvinogary_poster: sounds great20:54
gary_posterLaPingvino: merging something every VCS can do: yup, pretty much.  Different algorithms and characteristics and strengths.  SVN, for instance, is not nearly as good at merging (in its current incarnation) than many of the more recent systems20:56
OsamaKgary_poster: ok. thanks.20:57
LaPingvinogary_poster: that's what Linus said with GIT as well20:59
gary_postery21:00
lionelhi, we are migration ubuntu-fr LoCo svn+trac installation to LP. Is there a way to import our ticket on launchpad? I remember reading something about that...21:22
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gary_posterlionel: does https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/TracPlugin help?21:25
lionelgary_poster: looks good, thanks!21:26
gary_posterlionel: cool, np :-)21:27
mdkeI've opened a question about renaming a project, but I'm curious as to whether it is actually possible. Does anyone know if it can be done? Or does the fact that the project contains branches mean that it can't be renamed?21:31
beunomdke, it can21:33
beunoall branch URLs will break21:33
beunoso people will have to re-set them manually21:33
beunobut there's a project alias thing salgado worked on21:33
beunonot sure how much it redirects21:33
mdkebeuno: so the branches will be renamed with it too21:34
mdke?21:34
beunomdke, yes21:35
mdkegreat21:35
stefanlsdWhich email can i use to send a bug to the test launchpad server (sandpit)?22:16
gary_posterstefanlsd: um, that's a darn good question.  You want staging, in other words--something that won't stay in the db?22:28
gary_posterstefanlsd: I'm sorry, I have to run.22:39
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kRutOnHello.22:47
kRutOnI have a problem that seems pretty universal. My .po imports to rosetta sometimes take days. It appears to be tied to the way the directory structure in my tar.gz file is set up.22:48
kRutOnIs there some way I can tar up the .pot and .po files to be compatible with the automated po import approver?22:48
persiastefanlsd, staging doesn't do email, unfortunately (or at least it didn't the last several times I tried to do something with it).  In some ways this is good because we don't get lots of spurious email, but it limits testing.22:51
thumperpersia: staging does do email (for testing) but it all ends up in a big IMAP folder only devs can see23:51
persiathumper, Ah.  Sorry about the floods previously then :)23:55
thumperpersia: we don't look at it all the time23:56
thumperand people using staging is good23:56
persiaBut still, it's not useful for those of us who try to work on external tools.  That said, with launchpadlib, there's not nearly the dependence on the mailing interface.23:56
wgrantIn 6.5 weeks that will be fixed for some cases, I guess.23:57
wgrantAs some things will be able to be done using the Freed code.23:57
persiaWell, we'd need to setup  a private instance (non-trival), or perhaps the giant-testing-ldap could also be made public.23:58
persiaI suspect there are lots of these corner cases that can be investigated as part of the opening of LP development.23:58
wgrantgiant-testing-imap? I doubt it.23:59
persias/ldap/imap/ (I can't read)23:59
wgrantBut it can't be *that* hard to set up a development instance without all the extra bits.23:59
persiawgrant, Why is giant-testing-imap bad?  performace?  private risk?23:59

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