[04:16] <greg-g> bdmurray: idea: the regression tag talk got me thinking, should we have a bug day for each possibly new default application (empathy, banshee) relatively soon? That way we can get all relavant bugs upstream where they can do the most good. I'm looking at empathy now and it seems many of these should be upstream and there are only 72, a very obtainable goal for just a small group of people.
[04:18] <kklimonda> +1 for empathy :}
[04:18] <kklimonda> greg-g: fwiw I think it's a pretty good idea
[04:18] <bdmurray> greg-g: sounds brilliant
[04:19] <micahg> +1 but I can't help till the weekend
[04:19] <Laibsch> Does anybody else see "make: *** No rule to make target `unpatch', needed by `clean'.  Stop." for debuild -S and the latest ipython package?
[04:20] <micahg> Laibsch: do you have all the build deps?
[04:20] <Laibsch> I think
[04:20] <Laibsch> so
[04:20] <micahg> try apt-get build-dep <pkg-name>
[04:21] <micahg> I had to do that tonight when I built something
[04:21] <Laibsch> Although I find it increasingly irritating that I need to install a bunch of stuff just for getting a debdiff
[04:21] <kklimonda> Laibsch: you don't really need all build deps to create source package.
[04:22] <Laibsch> kklimonda: Try some of the JAVA stuff
[04:22] <Laibsch> Very annoying
[04:22] <Laibsch> I can't even create a debdiff for a simple patch I prepared
[04:22] <kklimonda> Laibsch: I'm keeping as far away from Java as possible :)
[04:22] <Laibsch> good
[04:22] <Laibsch> ;-)
[04:22] <greg-g> bdmurray: kklimonda cool, so who's in charge of the next bugday? :)
[04:22] <micahg> does empathy have more emoticons?
[04:23] <kklimonda> greg-g: originator? ;)
[04:23] <bdmurray> greg-g: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/Planning - mostly pedro
[04:23] <Laibsch> I had checked the red dots at http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/karmic/ipython
[04:24] <Laibsch> Looks like the green dots are not satisfiable for ipython on my hardy build host
[04:24] <bdmurray> I haven't seen an announcement about the one for the 4th though
[04:24]  * Laibsch wonders if this madness is spreading from JAVA to python now
[04:26] <greg-g> bdmurray: I can put them in for the 18th and 25th of this month, if you think that is a good idea
[04:27] <bdmurray> greg-g: yes, that'd be great
[05:51] <YoBoY> hi
[05:51] <micahg> hi
[05:53] <Jeruvy> aloha
[05:56] <micahg> anyone wanna look at a bug?
[05:56] <micahg> bug 382181
[05:56] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 382181 in firefox-3.0 "can't open wikipedia" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/382181
[05:56] <micahg> any ideas?
[05:58] <jmarsden> I'd say it has to do with his networks proxy... "I access the internet through an network that have a proxy server, but I use the connect directly option." ?  I can't reproduce the bug here :)
[05:59] <micahg> ok, just wanted a second opinion, thanks jmarsden
[05:59] <jmarsden> You might ask him to hook up his machine ahead of the proxy server, or even ahead of the firewall router, and retest??  But most likely he's not the network admin...
[05:59] <micahg> I'm going to refer the user to the network admin
[06:01] <jmarsden> Sounds reasonable.
[07:11] <thekorn> good morning
[07:50] <binarymutant> will someone change the importance of this bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/383048 , to Wishlist please :)
[07:50] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 383048 in ubuntuone-client "Please add direct url to shared files" [Undecided,New]
[07:51] <Hobbsee> binarymutant: we don't deal with ubuntuone bugs here.
[07:51] <Hobbsee> or at least, not ones filed on that project.
[07:52] <binarymutant> :( okay thanks anyways
[07:52] <Hobbsee> i believe #ubuntuone does.
[07:54] <binarymutant> Hobbsee, it's idle in there, so I thought I'd roll the dice here :)
[07:54] <Hobbsee> binarymutant: ah.  It's the same deal as launchpad bugs  - we can't triage their bugs.
[07:55] <binarymutant> ah okay, so the Ubuntu project doesn't encompass ubuntuone I get it
[07:55] <Hobbsee> correct.
[07:56] <binarymutant> Is there a canonical project ? or irc channel on Freenode?
[07:56] <Hobbsee> it's a canonical project, there's an irc channel on freenode.
[07:57] <binarymutant> awe it moved, and I don't have the permissions to see where :(
[07:57] <binarymutant> It's okay I can wait for someone else to see the bug, thanks for help Hobbsee
[11:33] <derosa> Hi. I have fixed 2 bugs, 1 attaching a patch to the bug report and the other one with my own branch. The bugs affect the functionality of the packages and none of the bugs are getting any attention (AFAIK). I think they should be updated in jaunty-updates as the functionality of the packages is really affected. What steps should I follow? The bugs are LP:#307220 and LP:#371603
[11:43] <YoBoY> bug 307220 and bug 371603
[11:43] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 307220 in tkgate "Error when tkgate starts simulator " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/307220
[11:43] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 371603 in gcompris "Administration not available" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371603
[11:45] <thekorn> derosa, bug 371603 is fix upstream, this fix has landed into debian, so you should file a sync request
[11:45] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 371603 in gcompris "Administration not available" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371603
[11:45] <thekorn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess
[11:48] <thekorn> derosa, I've linked the other one to the bug in the debian BTS
[11:49] <derosa> thekorn, I'll file the sync request, thank you
[14:35] <xteejx> Guys guys
[14:35] <xteejx> *Hey
[14:36] <thekorn> xteejx xteejx
[14:36] <xteejx> haha
[14:38] <xteejx> thekorn, since youre her e would you nind answering  a question
[14:39] <persia> !ask
[14:39] <ubot4> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[14:39] <thekorn> xteejx, shoot!
[14:39] <xteejx> persia, I know the rules, am being polite he may have been busy ;)
[14:39] <persia> No worries :)
[14:39] <xteejx> You see the USB startup disk creator, I know it does persistent installs, does that mean its fully upgradeable, and does it keep EVERYTHING?
[14:40] <xteejx> i.e. a fully working ubuntu installation, but on usb
[14:40] <xteejx> and i realise i should be asking this in #ubuntu but still.... ;)
[14:41] <thekorn> xteejx, not sure about this, but I think it only keeps changes from $HOME
[14:42] <xteejx> thekorn, that's what it used to do in intrepid, and jaunty says its got its own / partition but i'm not convinced.... its basically a live cd isnt it?
[14:43] <thekorn> xteejx, my understanding is that it is a live system like on the live cd
[14:43] <xteejx> just usb bootable then?
[14:44] <thekorn> xteejx, yes,
[14:44] <xteejx> damn
[14:44] <thekorn> but I can be totally wrong
[14:44] <xteejx> You see what i want is...
[14:44] <thekorn> best to ask your questions here again: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/usb-creator/+questions?field.search_text=&field.sort=RELEVANCY&field.sort-empty-marker=1&field.actions.search=Search&field.language-empty-marker=1&field.status=OPEN&field.status=NEEDSINFO&field.status=ANSWERED&field.status=SOLVED&field.status-empty-marker=1
[18:29] <kees> bdmurray: where should I start to look for examples of bug searches using the LP API to scan for all bugs tagged "apport-crash" where the description contains "Signal: 11", so I can download some of the attached files for each?
[18:30] <bdmurray> kees: I might have something or check with bryce and arsenal-dev
[18:35] <kees> bdmurray: it's the initial search on tags I don't know how to construct.  do you have any examples or pointers?
[18:37] <bdmurray> kees: in a meeting bug searchTasks(tags='apport-crash')
[18:37] <kees> bdmurray: ah, sorry.  thx for the pointer
[18:40] <bdmurray> kees: ubuntu = launchpad.distributions['ubuntu']
[18:40] <bdmurray> kees: apport_bugs = ubuntu.searchTasks(tags='apport-bug',order_by='-datecreated')
[18:40] <kees> bdmurray: cool, yeah
[18:41] <kees> omit_duplicates=True
[18:42] <kees> "search_text" any idea where that searches?
[18:42] <bdmurray> search_text might be interesting to try too
[18:42] <kees> heh
[18:42] <bdmurray> I think that's new
[18:44] <kees> task.bug_link.id is the bug# ?
[18:46] <bdmurray> task.bug.id
[18:47] <bdmurray> you generally don't need _link
[18:48] <kees> weird that that "bug" isn't listed, but "_link" is.
[18:51] <kees> can I refer to attachments by name or do I have to walk the collection manually?
[18:52] <bdmurray> attachment names are not available but bryce had a trick for that
[18:53] <bdmurray> I think you need to download them all to find it out
[18:53] <kees> okay, sounds like what I was writing up
[18:54] <kees> 17:51 < kees> can I refer to attachments by name or do I have to walk the collection manually?
[18:54] <kees> 17:52 < bdmurray> attachment names are not available but bryce had a trick for that
[18:54] <kees> bryce: ^^  any short-cuts you've got?
[18:55] <bryce> kees: yeah see 'process-new-bugs.py' in Arsenal, it has a good example
[18:55] <bryce> search on "# Analyze what sorts of files are attached"
[18:56] <kees> ah, right. you want the list and build it up.  Okay, that's basically what I was doing too.
[18:57] <kees> s/want/walk/
[18:57] <bryce> we should probably add a convenience routine to Arsenal to do this workaround
[19:06] <kees> bryce: iiuc, process-new-bugs.py doesn't actually open attachment contents?
[19:06] <kees> the .data object is: <launchpadlib.resource.HostedFile object at 0x1cb90d0>
[19:06] <kees> but the API doesn't seem to define that.
[19:07] <bryce> no it does not open attachment contents
[19:07] <bryce> see pci-extract.py as an example script that does use attachment contents
[19:08] <kees>                 hosted_file_buffer = hosted_file.open()
[19:08] <kees> ah-ha.  freaky
[19:09] <kees> a strange mix of magic accessors and pythonic fun
[19:11] <bryce> and entirely undocumented
[19:35] <Laibsch> ping ogasawara
[19:37] <Laibsch> I'd like to talk with you about bug 376485 and whether to close it as fixed and suggest that everybody open their individual ticket.  The original reporter did not respond and it's been about six weeks in incomplete state.
[19:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 376485 in ubuntu ""Key stuck" after switching workspace in Gnome with Keyboard shortcut" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/376485
[19:38] <Laibsch> sorry, wrong bug number.  bug 124406
[19:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 124406 in linux "Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat (Feisty, Gutsy)" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124406
[19:38] <ogasawara> Laibsch: I'll take a look, just a sec
[19:38] <Laibsch> thanks
[19:38] <Laibsch> Take a look at your comment from April 19th
[19:38] <Laibsch> that is when you set the bug to incomplete
[19:44] <ogasawara> Laibsch: I wouldn't necessarily close it as Fixed since we never heard back from the original reporter.
[19:44] <ogasawara> Laibsch: however, I do agree that bug is wildly hard to follow
[19:44] <Laibsch> yes
[19:44] <Laibsch> how do you want to proceed?
[19:44] <ogasawara> Laibsch: so it would seem to be best if people could open separate bug reports if the issue remains
[19:45] <Laibsch> you want to leave the old report open?
[19:45] <ogasawara> Laibsch: I do agree with the last comment from Rolf about testing upstream if possible - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMainlineBuilds
[19:45] <Laibsch> I'm afraid that will make people continue stuff there (I only saw your comment from April 19 after looking for why the linux task is set to incomplete)
[19:45] <Laibsch> I'm Rolf
[19:45] <ogasawara> Laibsch: ah, sweet :)
[19:45] <Laibsch> ;-)
[19:46] <Laibsch> よろしく
[19:46] <ogasawara> Laibsch: hehe, nice
[19:46] <Laibsch> You are Japanese, aren't you?
[19:46] <ogasawara> Laibsch: yes >)
[19:46] <Laibsch> Cool
[19:46] <Laibsch> Japan needs more FOSS ;-)
[19:46] <ogasawara> Laibsch: I fear it may be one of those bugs that reporters will keep reopening if we close it
[19:47] <Laibsch> Well, we can try ;-)
[19:47] <ogasawara> Laibsch: agreed
[19:47] <Laibsch> You go ahead, I think your voice has more authority
[19:47] <Laibsch> I'll help out fend off the crowd if necessary ;-)
[19:47] <ogasawara> Laibsch: will do.  thanks.
[19:47] <Laibsch> cool
[19:48] <Laibsch> BTW, do you think the problem I see is indeed likely a kernel issue?
[19:48] <Laibsch> I could imagine it is an X issue as well
[19:48] <ogasawara> Laibsch: hard to say it's really a kernel issue
[19:48] <Laibsch> bug 376485
[19:48] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 376485 in ubuntu ""Key stuck" after switching workspace in Gnome with Keyboard shortcut" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/376485
[19:48] <Laibsch> the one I gave erroneously earlier
[19:48] <hggdh> bencrisford, why do you need PT?
[19:48] <hggdh> :-)
[19:48] <Laibsch> ogasawara: what do you suggest to find out?
[19:49] <Laibsch> I don't experience it outside of X
[19:49] <Laibsch> for one
[19:49] <bencrisford> hggdh: Hehe, ill find you the link for the bug im working on
[19:49] <Laibsch> that kind of indicates an X problem
[19:49] <bencrisford> basically im adding the gnome lang-packs as dependencies to the gcompris sound translations
[19:49] <bencrisford> in the debian/control file
[19:50] <ogasawara> Laibsch: indeed, I would suspect that would be an X issue then
[19:50] <bencrisford> im just doing a debdiff
[19:50] <Laibsch> ogasawara: OK, thanks
[19:50] <hggdh> ah, ok. Did you find the pt_br one?
[19:51] <bencrisford> hggdh: I didn't know
[19:51] <bencrisford> but the pt one is in there
[19:51] <bencrisford> so i hoped it wouldnt have too much impact.  Am I wrong hggdh?
[19:52] <hggdh> bencrisford, although both are Portuguese, there are some significant differences
[19:52] <hggdh> (and I am not talking about the accent ;-)
[19:52] <bencrisford> hggdh: oh :(
[19:54] <hggdh> bencrisford, OTH, I am also not finding the BR translations :-(
[19:55] <hggdh> weird
[19:56] <hggdh> well, I guess the support for PT is the same for pt_(PT|BR)
[19:59] <hggdh> bencrisford, I will try to find one of the Brazilian translators to check on it (and -- to my knowledge -- I only have pt_PT installed)
[19:59] <bencrisford> ok :)
[19:59] <bencrisford> hggdh: Unless you find it and I need to make changes to my patch I won't be able to include it, sorry
[19:59] <bencrisford> its just, I spent over an hour on it
[20:00] <bencrisford> and its all packaged...  so id rather leave it unless I have to change my package for some reason
[20:00] <hggdh> bencrisford, leave it be, then. *If* needed, next version can include it
[20:01] <hggdh> well I *hope* there will be a next version(s)
[20:01] <bencrisford> hggdh: Yeah :), I want to include it now
[20:01] <bencrisford> get it "perfect"
[20:01] <bencrisford> but its all packaged
[20:01] <bencrisford> so if the sponsors say change it
[20:01] <bencrisford> ill change that too
[20:01] <bencrisford> ;)
[20:04] <hggdh> cool
[20:55] <bencrisford> I have done something incredible stupid :P, I don't know how I managed it
[20:56] <bencrisford> i managed to post a comment twice
[20:56] <bencrisford> how do one of them?
[20:56] <bencrisford> bug 306876
[20:56] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 306876 in gcompris "Translations not installed with gcompris by default." [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/306876
[20:57] <bencrisford> how do i delete one*
[20:59] <bdmurray> it's not possible
[21:00] <bencrisford> Well, I managed it somehow
[21:00] <BUGabundo> Boas Noites
[21:00] <bdmurray> I meant it is not possible to delete them
[21:00] <bencrisford> oh
[21:00] <BUGabundo> bencrisford: usually LP prevents it
[21:00] <bencrisford> that sucks :/
[21:00] <BUGabundo> and you can't delete a comment
[21:00] <bencrisford> well i apoligise anyway
[21:00] <bencrisford> and I have written an apoligetic comment on the bug
[21:03] <BUGabundo> eehh
[21:30] <BUGabundo> bcurtiswx: congrats on your application for Membership
[22:04] <askand> kklimonda: hi! have you heard something from the transmissionpeople regarding my backtrace?
[22:04] <BUGabundo> hey askand kklimonda
[22:04] <askand> hey BUGabundo
[23:29] <dtchen> bdmurray: WRT "no sound" bugs and assigning to ubuntu-audio: that's fine
[23:30] <bdmurray> dtchen: is there a more preferred workflow?
[23:31] <dtchen> bdmurray: i think that workflow is suitable
[23:45] <persia> dtchen, Would subscribe work as well as assign?  I'd like to move away from the assignment model, as it's confusing to triagers that some types of bugs get assigned and others shouldn't be assigned.
[23:48] <greg-g> persia++, it could be seen as "we're now going to fix your bug"
[23:55] <dtchen> persia: / bdmurray: right, for consistency's sake, s/assign/subscribe/
[23:55] <bdmurray> dtchen: sounds great thanks!  should we cleanup the existing ones for the team?
[23:56] <dtchen> bdmurray: if you have the resources, that would be great
[23:56] <bdmurray> dtchen: I can certainly work something out