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| micahg | any ideas on bug 382181? | 05:49 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 382181 in firefox-3.0 "can't open wikipedia" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/382181 | 05:49 |
| asac | fta: added the build system for hardy ;) ... lets hope this works smooth | 09:58 |
| fta | thanks | 09:58 |
| asac | fta: can you take a quick look if you see anything i missed? | 09:58 |
| asac | .hardy branch | 09:58 |
| asac | pushed it to security ppa now | 09:59 |
| asac | https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa | 09:59 |
| asac | stefanlsd: so did persia review gears licensing yet? | 10:00 |
| stefanlsd | asac: not yet. although i've been working with him on licensing review stuff and plan to do the review myself, moving it to dep5 - http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/ | 10:01 |
| stefanlsd | asac: i have a big deadline for some stuff, so hopefully before or during the weekend i'll have that done... | 10:02 |
| stefanlsd | asac: managed to have a look at the libpng, libjpeg issue? | 10:02 |
| asac | stefanlsd: so persia definitly said that just BSD is wrong and you should post the full license in changelog | 10:02 |
| asac | stefanlsd: what do you mean by "do review yourself" ? | 10:02 |
| fta | asac, so many commits? wasn't it in the debian/ dir in the 1st place? | 10:03 |
| asac | stefanlsd: no. i think what would work would be using the libpng from gecko and the libjpeg for gecko | 10:03 |
| asac | fta: i cherry picked all build-system related commits you had | 10:03 |
| fta | oh | 10:03 |
| asac | that was 5 or 6 | 10:03 |
| asac | matching the amount of commits | 10:04 |
| asac | the comments of the later landed ones didnt really read as if they were optional ;) | 10:04 |
| asac | fta: you think i picked too many? | 10:04 |
| fta | oh, code.lp is giving you credits so i thought you redid everything manually, n-m | 10:04 |
| asac | well. merge -c doesnt really remember what you merged | 10:05 |
| asac | only full branch merges | 10:05 |
| stefanlsd | asac: im gonna redo the licensing myself, and then double check with persia | 10:05 |
| asac | merge -c is basically a diff + patch + some conflict tracking | 10:05 |
| asac | stefanlsd: ok. let me know if you need anything. | 10:06 |
| fta | it does when you cherry pick with merge -r 125..127 | 10:06 |
| asac | i am sure we can do further system lib refinements later | 10:06 |
| asac | fta: i think you will survive it ;) | 10:07 |
| fta | sure :) | 10:07 |
| stefanlsd | asac: kk. how do i link agaist gecko png and jpeg? | 10:07 |
| asac | fta: if this all blows up you probably dont want to be referencable anyway ;) | 10:07 |
| fta | lol | 10:07 |
| asac | stefanlsd: i would really think that system jpeg should work. you sure you tried just doing that? | 10:07 |
| stefanlsd | asac: mm. yeah. doesnt work without it | 10:09 |
| stefanlsd | asac: is probably not the end of the world either linking libpng and libjpeg. I will also just let security guys know that thats the case... | 10:09 |
| asac | right | 10:10 |
| stefanlsd | asac: cool. i'll have my license revision done by / on the weekend and will get persia to check. | 10:12 |
| asac | stefanlsd: thanks. let me know. do we have a bzr branch already? (sorry if i forgot) | 10:13 |
| stefanlsd | asac: yeah. im pulling from here - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rail/%2Bjunk/gears/ | 10:14 |
| * gnomefreak hates when packages i need are removed/heldback | 10:31 | |
| asac | fta: argh ... they bumped sqlite requirement on 1.9.0 branch :( | 11:00 |
| asac | without a bug even | 11:00 |
| asac | fta: http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsquery.cgi?treeid=default&module=all&branch=HEAD&branchtype=match&dir=&file=configure.in&filetype=match&who=&whotype=match&sortby=Date&hours=2&date=explicit&mindate=2009-04-01&maxdate=2009-04-19&cvsroot=%2Fcvsroot | 11:01 |
| fta2 | asac, not even a bug number? :( | 11:23 |
| asac | yeah i found it though: mozilla bug 488710 | 11:23 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 488710 in Storage "Upgrade to sqlite 3.6.7 on the 1.9.0 branch" [Normal,Verified: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=488710 | 11:23 |
| asac | i backout the configure.in part for now ... lets see | 11:24 |
| asac | i am a bit scared about moving to system sqlite because there were a few hacks at some points in embedders wrt loading that lib | 11:24 |
| asac | fta2: anyway, hardy seems to have built ... maybe pocket copy the binaries to daily so we can see if the build system works? | 11:25 |
| asac | sigh i made the uds survey but seems i closed the tab at some point :( | 11:26 |
| asac | why doesnt ffox 3.6 ask me if i really want to close modified forms? | 11:26 |
| fta2 | i'll wait for amd64, it's not done yet | 11:29 |
| asac | k | 11:29 |
| gnomefreak | asac: firefox uses hunspell right | 11:30 |
| * gnomefreak thinking no the more i think about it | 11:31 | |
| asac | gnomefreak: it uses hunspell, yeah | 11:31 |
| gnomefreak | ok thanks | 11:31 |
| asac | (still) | 11:31 |
| asac | fta2: all ppa archs built | 12:00 |
| gnomefreak | asac: upstream firegpg has the FireGPGCall dir. commenting the clean section in debian/rules fix the build failure but now when building it makes an empty FireGPGCall dir. can you give me an idea on a more stable fix for this. here is the rules file http://pastebin.mozilla.org/654946 | 12:31 |
| asac | gnomefreak: what did change upstream? | 12:32 |
| gnomefreak | MOZ_XPI_BUILD_COMMAND = make -C FireGPGCall/; cp FireGPGCall/*.xpt FireGPGCall/*.so components/; sh build.sh i guess i can set that to default again from XPI_TEMPLATE but would like a clean rule | 12:32 |
| asac | please provide a diff of the too origs | 12:32 |
| gnomefreak | asac: i dont have the old one any more | 12:32 |
| gnomefreak | is there a way to get it out of PPA | 12:32 |
| asac | gnomefreak: grab it from archive | 12:32 |
| gnomefreak | asac: cant you never pushed it | 12:33 |
| asac | gnomefreak: yes, you can look for superseded builds | 12:33 |
| gnomefreak | k | 12:33 |
| asac | there the orig should still be avail | 12:33 |
| nhandler | asac: Could you please try and upload greasemonkey today for me? It is in lp:~ubuntu-dev/firefox-extensions/greasemonkey.ubuntu | 12:33 |
| asac | nhandler: you could commit to ubuntu-dev but cant upload? | 12:34 |
| nhandler | asac: I have the necessary permissions to upload, but I keep getting rejection emails | 12:34 |
| asac | nhandler: please paste the mail you get | 12:35 |
| asac | nhandler: please add a .bzr-builddeb/default.conf | 12:35 |
| asac | look at adblock-plus branch | 12:35 |
| asac | you can find the long revision id by running bzr log -l --show-ids on the upstream branch | 12:36 |
| asac | err, you can find the long revision id by running bzr log -l1 --show-ids on the upstream branch | 12:36 |
| gnomefreak | only way i found was to look at sucessful builds and there is no source just normal info https://edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/+archive/ppa/+build/773847 | 12:37 |
| gnomefreak | one moment | 12:37 |
| asac | nhandler: are you on karmic? | 12:39 |
| nhandler | asac: No, jaunty | 12:39 |
| nhandler | asac: For the bzr log command, I thought we weren't using .upstream branches anymore, only .ubuntu. | 12:40 |
| asac | nhandler: yeah. so what happens is that it doesnt find the right tarball because its only in karmic | 12:41 |
| asac | how do you produce the tarball? | 12:41 |
| nhandler | asac: I tried downloading the one used in karmic using pull-lp-source | 12:42 |
| asac | nhandler: we have upstream branches. they are just inside the .ubuntu branch | 12:42 |
| asac | nhandler: if you look at bzr log you see the revisions merged in | 12:42 |
| asac | if you use that revision (e.g. 1.1.1) you will get the upstream branch | 12:42 |
| asac | e.g. bzr branch -r 1.1.1 greasemonkey.ubuntu upstream | 12:42 |
| asac | will produce the upstream branch | 12:42 |
| asac | anyway. i will fix it now. | 12:43 |
| asac | also adding .bzr-builddeb | 12:43 |
| asac | look at bzr log --show-ids to see how to find the upstream revision i add there now | 12:43 |
| nhandler | Thanks asac. What is the .bzr-builddeb/default.conf for? Just to make it easier to build the package using bzr bd ? | 12:44 |
| asac | nhandler: if you use that it will automatically produce the orig.tar.gz from the branch. yes | 12:46 |
| asac | but you still have to take care that you got the right orig if its already in the archive | 12:47 |
| asac | i think for that we would need to do "merge upstream" instead | 12:47 |
| asac | have to experiment a bit before migrating bzr branches there | 12:47 |
| asac | nhandler: let me know if it failed again :) | 12:49 |
| asac | pushed | 12:49 |
| asac | nhandler: seems it got accepted ;) | 12:50 |
| nhandler | Thanks a lot asac. I'll take a look at the changes you made regarding bzr bd | 12:50 |
| nhandler | :) | 12:50 |
| asac | cool | 12:50 |
| nhandler | asac: Also, what is our current process for sending our extensions upstream to Debian? | 12:54 |
| asac | nhandler: we dont have a real process. if debian extension exists we should suggest them to use our approach. first i have to upload mozilla-devscripts though. | 12:54 |
| nhandler | asac: Should we go through mentors, the Debian VCS, or some other area? | 12:56 |
| gnomefreak | asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/654950 trying to get more info out of it | 12:56 |
| * nhandler wants to get his long-url-please extension added upstream | 12:56 | |
| asac | nhandler: i will upload mozilla-devscripts | 12:58 |
| asac | nhandler: for packages that exist in debian we should file bugs | 12:58 |
| asac | for new packages we should consider to maintain our packages in debian and sync them to ubuntu | 12:59 |
| gnomefreak | asac: the best diff you could ask for :) http://getfiregpg.org/news.html | 13:01 |
| gnomefreak | they dont explain much do they | 13:03 |
| asac | gnomefreak: no ... make a diff locally using diff command | 13:03 |
| gnomefreak | asac: i gave you that output | 13:03 |
| gnomefreak | gnomefreak > asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/654950 trying to get more info out of it | 13:04 |
| asac | gnomefreak: make that recursively | 13:04 |
| gnomefreak | k | 13:05 |
| asac | diff -ru dir1 dir2 | 13:05 |
| gnomefreak | ok working on pastebin ing it | 13:07 |
| * gnomefreak smoke while i wait. it seems to be huge | 13:08 | |
| asac | lunch time ~1h | 13:08 |
| asac | gnomefreak: ^^ | 13:08 |
| asac | so take your time ;) | 13:08 |
| gnomefreak | k | 13:08 |
| gnomefreak | damnit way too big for pastebin, i am compressing it and emailing it i hope | 13:21 |
| gnomefreak | fta2: bug 373167 is the link refered to there needed to use mozilla-thunderbird as a trans. package? | 13:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 373167 in mozilla-thunderbird "After installing Thunderbird, preferred applications shows both "Mozilla Thunderbird" and "Thunderbird"" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/373167 | 13:32 |
| gnomefreak | i just commented on it. TBH i cant remember tbird anymore its been so damn long | 13:33 |
| fta2 | no idea, i don't work on tb | 13:39 |
| gnomefreak | ah ok | 13:39 |
| fta2 | asac, did you ever use caff? (to sign keys) | 13:40 |
| gnomefreak | i will ping asa*c about it if i remember | 13:40 |
| gnomefreak | hes at lunch | 13:40 |
| gnomefreak | asac: incase im not here when you get back (have 2 meetings today) i emailed you the tar.gz of the diff due to the size. | 13:49 |
| fta2 | asac, just signed your key, let me know if you receive the 4 emails | 14:24 |
| asac | fta2: so which caff command did you use? | 14:28 |
| asac | for me the manpage was too much ;) | 14:28 |
| fta2 | did it work? | 14:29 |
| fta2 | asac, I added temporarily "default-cert-level 3" to my ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf (it's 0 by default), then created a ~/.caffrc with this in it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/187382/ | 14:31 |
| fta2 | then, just caff some_key | 14:32 |
| fta2 | from the list | 14:32 |
| asac | fta2: ah. thought it would ask you for all keys in the special keyring | 14:35 |
| asac | somehow | 14:35 |
| asac | i will finish my lunch cooking and then check emails | 14:36 |
| fta | dtchen, <crimsun@fungus.sh.nu>... Deferred: Connection refused by fungus.sh.nu. | 18:48 |
| LaPingvino | asac ping, greetings for everybody else as well | 19:33 |
| LaPingvino | mmm asac could have put an "away"-sign on his nick... | 19:35 |
| asac | LaPingvino: what up? | 19:36 |
| LaPingvino | just a nudge about the language packs | 19:36 |
| LaPingvino | and when are you normally available? I hate it to come here and to speak to walls at arrival... :S | 19:37 |
| LaPingvino | how are you? | 19:37 |
| LaPingvino | oh and you won't see me most of the next two weeks as I will be in Brazil then ;) | 19:37 |
| asac | LaPingvino: usually here during european biz hours | 19:38 |
| LaPingvino | ah... | 19:39 |
| asac | but if you stay online i will answer when coming back ;) | 19:39 |
| LaPingvino | ah I see :) | 19:39 |
| LaPingvino | well that's all right then | 19:39 |
| asac | LaPingvino: what in particular about language packs? | 19:40 |
| LaPingvino | got to updating the languages in firefox ubuntu? | 19:40 |
| LaPingvino | you asked me before to nudge you about that | 19:40 |
| asac | LaPingvino: ah didnt that happen yet? | 19:40 |
| LaPingvino | that's where I ask about | 19:40 |
| LaPingvino | lemme check then | 19:41 |
| asac | i know that lang teams regular run langpack updates | 19:41 |
| asac | afaik i set everything up so that next time that happens all should be up to date | 19:41 |
| LaPingvino | great :) | 19:42 |
| LaPingvino | I will run a check (firefox with clean profile) to see whether esperanto is in it yet | 19:42 |
| asac | seems there was no update yet. | 19:42 |
| asac | LaPingvino: langpacks will first land here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-langpack/+archive/ppa | 19:42 |
| LaPingvino | ah great :) | 19:42 |
| asac | after two weeks they go to -proposed | 19:42 |
| asac | and from there to -updates | 19:43 |
| fta | asac, question.. | 20:15 |
| fta | asac, chromium needs a special version of mpeg for its <video> tag | 20:16 |
| fta | asac, it's detected at runtime | 20:16 |
| fta | i can't use our system ffmpeg because it's not multi-threaded | 20:17 |
| fta | http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/deps/third_party/ffmpeg/README.chromium?view=markup | 20:17 |
| fta | the sources are not in my current tarball | 20:17 |
| fta | so the question is, should i a/ get http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/deps/third_party/ffmpeg/ unpack & build that, or b/ fetch the git snapshots from the readme and bundle that in my tarball, or c/ create 2 new packages | 20:19 |
| fta | asac, ^^ | 20:19 |
| jcastro | fta: did you see their first cut at the bookmark manager landed today for chromium? | 20:50 |
| fta | hm, nope | 20:50 |
| fta | i saw the 1st part of the option dialog a few days ago | 20:50 |
| jcastro | http://codereview.chromium.org/118150 | 20:51 |
| jcastro | yeah I saw that too | 20:51 |
| fta | landed in r17489 | 20:51 |
| jcastro | where can you tell that? | 20:52 |
| fta | Committed: http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome?view=rev&revision=17489 | 20:52 |
| jcastro | ah | 20:53 |
| fta | i have r17485 | 20:53 |
| fta | damn | 20:53 |
| fta | close | 20:53 |
| jcastro | fta: do you have your build script up someplace? I'd like to mess with it | 20:55 |
| fta | i'm still fighting with my quota in that ppa so i can't push anything faster | 20:55 |
| BUGabundo | hi guys | 20:55 |
| jcastro | lame | 20:55 |
| fta | jcastro, build script? | 20:55 |
| jcastro | fta: what you use to push to that ppa | 20:55 |
| jcastro | fta: have you talked to celso about the quotas? | 20:56 |
| fta | jcastro, the bot maintaining all the dailies or the chromium thing? | 20:56 |
| jcastro | just the chromium thing | 20:56 |
| fta | everything is in the branch | 20:56 |
| jcastro | ah? cool. | 20:56 |
| fta | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-team/chromium-browser/chromium-browser.head | 20:57 |
| jcastro | got it | 20:58 |
| fta | good luck :) | 20:58 |
| jcastro | :) | 20:59 |
| fta | asac, well, i'll go for a/ | 21:13 |
| fta | jcastro, bug 381296 | 21:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 381296 in soyuz "PPA max quota is too small" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/381296 | 21:18 |
| BUGabundo | oh its now a bug | 21:20 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 21:20 |
| BUGabundo | so Answer as not enough | 21:21 |
| stefanlsd | asac: gears has a few files with header information such as - // Copyright 2006 Google Inc. All Rights Reserved. and no license information .persia says those are not shippable | 21:21 |
| fta | BUGabundo, re-read the last answer | 21:21 |
| fta | stefanlsd, same in chromium | 21:21 |
| stefanlsd | fta: heh. great! google sucks :) | 21:22 |
| BUGabundo | stefanlsd: +1 | 21:23 |
| asac | stefanlsd: how about filing a bug upstream for those files? | 21:24 |
| stefanlsd | asac: will do. i did file one about the modifications they do to libaries a while ago. heard nothing. I dont think upstream is particulary concerned. | 21:25 |
| asac | stefanlsd: well. licensing should be easy enough to fix | 21:25 |
| BUGabundo | ahah | 21:25 |
| asac | stefanlsd: if the top level license file explicitly states that everything is licensed that way it might be ok imo | 21:26 |
| asac | fta: yeah. sounds bad though. why cant we build multi threaded ffmpeg in system libs? | 21:26 |
| fta | asac, it's a different branch of ffmpeg, a fark | 21:26 |
| fta | fork | 21:26 |
| asac | who maintains that fork? | 21:28 |
| asac | where is that hosted? in the ffmpeg repositories? | 21:28 |
| fta | http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/deps/third_party/ffmpeg/README.chromium?revision=16648 | 21:28 |
| fta | and google just provides this http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/deps/third_party/ffmpeg/ it's not part of the chromium source tree (i.e. not trunk/src) | 21:30 |
| stefanlsd | asac: structure looks like.. debian, gears, third_party. gears/COPYING is the top level for gears. Problem here is third_party/npapi/nphostapi.h (doesnt seem to have a top level - unless gears/COPYING would be (im quite sure the file is under the same bsd style license as the rest of gears, although it doesnt say explicitly) | 21:30 |
| asac | gitorious ... sigh | 21:33 |
| asac | fta: does chromium not support gstreamer? | 21:33 |
| fta | hm, i don't think so | 21:34 |
| asac | would be much better than ffmpeg | 21:34 |
| fta | asac, well, even mozilla didn't choose gstreamer. i remember a bug about that but they went with direct asound+vorbis | 21:44 |
| BUGabundo | fta: the only way to run gwiber | 21:48 |
| BUGabundo | $ watch -n 10 gwibber | 21:48 |
| asac | fta: yeah. at least they didnt pull in a full ffmpeg ;) | 21:48 |
| fta | sort of, just packed | 21:49 |
| fta | BUGabundo, fix it | 21:49 |
| BUGabundo | fta: I know nothing about python | 21:49 |
| fta | BUGabundo, neither do i | 21:50 |
| LaPingvino | I do know at least a bit about it... | 21:50 |
| BUGabundo | and my last two segfault bugs are still to be triaged :\ | 21:50 |
| BUGabundo | hey LaPingvino | 21:50 |
| BUGabundo | ou alias, olá LaPingvino | 21:50 |
| LaPingvino | hehe | 21:50 |
| LaPingvino | faca oq quer ;) | 21:51 |
| BUGabundo | s/faca/faça/ | 21:51 |
| LaPingvino | não tenho isso :( | 21:52 |
| LaPingvino | ã sim, mas essa c não | 21:52 |
| LaPingvino | tá bem? | 21:52 |
| LaPingvino | eu sei muito bem que tenho que usar isso assim | 21:53 |
| BUGabundo | no prob LaPingvino, I though you wouldn't .... | 21:54 |
| LaPingvino | :P | 21:54 |
| LaPingvino | obrigado :) | 21:54 |
| LaPingvino | tudo bem a ca? | 21:55 |
| BUGabundo | LaPingvino: lets talk in English | 21:56 |
| BUGabundo | don't want to mess with ppl heads again | 21:56 |
| LaPingvino | Okay :) | 21:56 |
| BUGabundo | feel free to open a PVT too | 21:57 |
| fta | jcastro, any success? ;) | 21:57 |
| jcastro | fta: still checking out, hahah | 21:58 |
| jcastro | ridiculous | 21:58 |
| fta | yep, it's huge | 21:58 |
| fta | doing me best to strip it down, but well, there's no magic | 21:58 |
| fta | -rw-r--r-- 1 fta fta 196883994 2009-06-03 22:59 chromium-browser_3.0.184.0~svn20090603r17528.orig.tar.gz | 22:00 |
| fta | it was 351 MB+ a few days ago | 22:00 |
| fta | jcastro, what do you want to try with chromium? | 22:12 |
| fta | btw, what was that channel renaming thing about? | 22:12 |
| * BUGabundo This channel is now know as #Ubuntu-browserteam | 22:14 | |
| BUGabundo | s/know/known | 22:14 |
| fta | Jun 3 22:11:19 cube sm-mta[16790]: STARTTLS=client, relay=master.debian.org., version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA, bits=256/256 | 22:18 |
| fta | i wonder if it's possible to find the debian cert somewhere | 22:18 |
| jcastro | fta: I wanted to try that browser stuff | 22:30 |
| jcastro | er, bookmark stuff I mean | 22:30 |
| asac | fta: checkout db.debian.org/machines.cgi | 22:31 |
| asac | http://db.debian.org/machines.cgi?host=master | 22:31 |
| fta | jcastro, if i can finish that video tag thing today, i'll bump the ppa manually | 22:31 |
| jcastro | cool | 22:31 |
| asac | hmm. seems there is only ssh key on it | 22:32 |
| jcastro | what video tag thing, the ffmpeg-mt thing? | 22:32 |
| fta | yes | 22:32 |
| fta | to support <video> and <audio>, like in ff 3.5/3.6 | 22:32 |
| jcastro | neat | 22:32 |
| asac | fta: whats the idea? build a real lib package out of it? | 22:32 |
| fta | asac, so far, no, i will build it along with chromium. i don't have a better option | 22:34 |
| dtchen | fta: WRT crimsun@fungus: domain was hijacked | 23:31 |
| fta | dtchen, ? | 23:31 |
| dtchen | 13:48 #ubuntu-mozillateam: ( fta) dtchen, <crimsun@fungus.sh.nu>... Deferred: Connection refused by fungus.sh.nu. | 23:32 |
| fta | yes | 23:32 |
| fta | and? | 23:32 |
| dtchen | fta: sh.nu was hijacked, and the original host (rightly) refuses to pay 300 euro/yr to regain it | 23:33 |
| fta | oh, ok. | 23:33 |
| fta | just got that after i signed your gpg key. i don't mind, it will stop bouncing eventually | 23:34 |
| fta | dtchen, ^^, you should remove/revoke that email from your key | 23:35 |
| dtchen | fta: done locally already | 23:35 |
| fta | you're not alone to bounce. some @debian.org emails too. 451 Could not complete sender verify callout | 23:38 |
| fta | strangely, not all | 23:38 |
| fta | dtchen, asac: you should sign too. do your part ;) | 23:40 |
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