[00:02] <Riddell> ryanakca: is there something different between debian and ubuntu?
[00:10] <ryanakca> Riddell: None that I can see, apart from the order of the b-d, copyright file (debianized), changelog...
[00:11] <Riddell> wibble, I think I've had too many pints to be of much help
[00:11] <Riddell> I did miss Real Ale in Spain
[00:11] <Riddell> this is what happens when you start becoming middle aged!
[00:12] <ryanakca> Hehe, I've always thought that middle aged was fourties... unless the life expectancy in the UK is 60 or something... in which case I suppose you could consider late twenties / early thirties as middle aged...
[00:13] <Riddell> life expectancy is shorter in Scotland.  too many deep fried pizzas in the diet :)
[00:14]  * ryanakca wonders what one can find appetizing in the thought of a deep fried pizza
[00:15] <Riddell> everything!  it's haute cuisine d'ecosse!
[00:17] <ryanakca> Bah :P
[00:17] <ryanakca> shtylman_: How's OO.o comming?
[00:17] <shtylman_> slowly..and painfully...but coming
[00:18] <Riddell> I bet you say that to all the women
[00:18] <shtylman_> tweaking some of the widget displays
[00:18] <shtylman_> ....
[00:18] <Riddell> you probably don't say that to all the women though
[00:18] <shtylman_> *sigh*
[00:19] <Riddell> :)
[00:19] <Riddell> markey: you went to sleep!
[00:19] <JontheEchidna> heh, ol' jr is a bit tipsy
[00:19] <Nightrose> never!
[00:19] <ryanakca> Just a tad :P
[00:19] <Nightrose> ;-)
[00:24] <shtylman_> http://shtylman.com/stuff/oo/
[00:25] <shtylman_> ^just a small demo :)
[00:26] <shtylman_> the menus also match oxygen/whatever enabled style you have
[00:28] <neversfelde> thats a small screenshot :), but looks nice
[00:28] <shtylman_> neversfelde: I like to focus on the details :)
[00:28] <neversfelde> hehe
[00:33] <Riddell> shtylman_: you got the widget themeing working?
[00:33] <shtylman_> yea
[00:33] <shtylman_> currently written only for like 5 widgets...but easy to expand to more
[00:34] <Riddell> how many are there?
[00:34] <shtylman_> ive got buttons done, menus, text edits and toolbars
[00:35] <shtylman_> about 25...with some subparts...but not all were implemented last time...hopefully I can have more coverage than the kde3 side
[00:35] <Riddell> did I ever mention you were a genius?
[00:35] <shtylman_> the cool thing is that if you don't implement a widget...it just falls back to its own drawing...which looks windows 98ish..but still ok
[00:35] <shtylman_> haha...just doing my best :)
[00:36] <shtylman_> oh..and I have a working and integrated file picker...as per last night
[00:36] <shtylman_> it still needs some tweaks but the event loop is there
[00:36] <shtylman_> that was the hardest part really
[00:42] <Riddell> shtylman_: doesn't it take two hours to compile after each edit?
[00:45] <Daskreech> kb9vqf: ping
[00:53] <ryanakca> Riddell: Isn't that what make is for? ... to only recompile the modified section and then link it all together?
[00:53] <Daskreech> Riddell: That's Amarok 2.1 final? :)
[00:57] <nixternal> anyone who went to UDS, did you participate in any of the apt url conversations?
[01:02] <Riddell> ryanakca: with openoffice I'd expect even the linking to take hours
[01:02] <Riddell> Daskreech: that's the ane
[01:02] <Riddell> nixternal: no I don't think so
[01:02] <ryanakca> *nod*
[01:03] <nixternal> do we have apt-url support anymore? I notice none of them work, so I would guess no
[01:03] <Daskreech> Riddell: So /Topic in #kubuntu?
[01:05] <Riddell> Daskreech: go for it
[01:06] <Riddell> nixternal: I don't think we ever did
[01:06] <nixternal> I thought we did at one point
[01:07] <ryanakca> I think there was an apt-url kio slave at one point...
[01:08] <Daskreech> Protected topic is protected :-(
[01:09] <ryanakca> Daskreech: anything else?
[01:09] <ryanakca> just deop yourself when done :)
[01:10] <Daskreech> Well rebooting going to actually install Kubuntu I just got a hard drive so no more Live CD for me :)
[01:10] <Daskreech> Going to see if I can install KDE 4.3 in one go :)
[01:10] <ryanakca> :)
[01:11] <Daskreech> Just Chit chatting with Sparr trying to recruit him to help withthe KDE3 repo :)
[01:26] <ryanakca> Riddell: *prod*, still have a typo in my name in your blog post... s/Kavanah/Kavanagh/g
[01:31] <nixternal> who is buying dinner?
[02:58]  * ScottK notes http://martinpitt.wordpress.com/2009/06/03/hal-sectomy-continues/ needing some KDE upstream coordination, but has zero time to work on it.
[02:58]  * ScottK looks around ...
[03:13] <jjesse> good evening, since the update to kde 4.2.4 the noficiations from quassel don't automatically disappear like they used to, anyone else noticing this?
[03:14] <JontheEchidna> jjesse: yeah, Quassel is accidentally using the "persistent" setting for knotifications, which only started working in 4.2.3
[03:15] <jjesse> JontheEchidna: ah thanks
[03:15] <jjesse> JontheEchidna: btw whats the package for weather background again
[03:15] <JontheEchidna> I don't know if there is a hotfix for the quassel thing
[03:15] <jjesse> i'm sure an update someplace will fix it
[03:15] <vorian> make sure you check out icy tree™
[03:15] <JontheEchidna> heh @ tm
[03:16] <JontheEchidna> jjesse: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Weather+Wallpaper+Plugin?content=102185
[03:16] <jjesse> JontheEchidna: cool thanks, package in kde/ubuntu yet?
[03:16] <JontheEchidna> yeah, see the download links :)
[03:16] <jjesse> cool :)
[03:17] <JontheEchidna> oh, I forgot to set the x86_64 mandravia package to being displayed as a mandravia package...
[03:17]  * JontheEchidna fixes
[03:17] <JontheEchidna> the KDE 4.3 version is superior to 0.2.1, but 0.2.1 still works :)
[03:18] <JontheEchidna> also the weather wallpaper is probably what's making us 70 MB over on the CD >.>
[03:19] <JontheEchidna> since it pulls in both kdewallpapers and kdebase-workspace-wallpapers
[03:19] <JontheEchidna> oops™
[03:26] <vorian> are these known jaunty -> karmic upgrade issues?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/187850/
[03:27] <JontheEchidna> vorian: I think we got all of those, though it's hard to tell since there aren't any errors
[03:27] <vorian> JontheEchidna: that just happened to me, just now
[03:27] <JontheEchidna> oh :/
[03:28] <JontheEchidna> all of those errors start to look the same after you spend a weekend fixing htem
[03:29] <vorian> so we have a utils/graphics/pim fixex
[03:29] <vorian> fixes too
[03:30] <shtylman> Riddell: nope ... I found a way to compile just the library I need and copy over the .so files...so it takes no time at all to test my changes :)
[05:00] <Daskreech> What's the deal with the Koala ISOs being about 100 MBs larger than a Cd ?
[07:39] <kb9vqf> Daskreech: belated pong
[08:37] <Artemis_Fowl> are there any amarok 2.1 packages for jaunty???
[09:07] <emonkey-t> yes
[09:07] <emonkey-t> Artemis_Fowl: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main
[09:08] <Artemis_Fowl> emonkey-t: ty
[09:08] <emonkey-t> nP
[13:17] <Riddell> agateau: do we need a patch to qt for gwenview's thumbnailview?
[13:26] <agateau> Riddell: would be nice to have it yes
[13:26] <agateau> it's in qt-copy now
[15:03] <Riddell> wee bit of politics there :)
[15:04]  * jussi01 wishes he could actually vote here...
[15:04] <Riddell> jussi01: why can't you?
[15:05] <jussi01> Riddell: because Im Australian
[15:05] <Riddell> taxation without representation?
[15:06] <jussi01> come again?
[15:06] <jussi01> Riddell: I have no idea how it works, to be honest.
[15:34] <Riddell> nixternal: we weren't being mean about your wiki pages!
[15:34] <Riddell> nixternal: the new ones look lovely though
[15:41]  * rgreening is sooooooo sick
[15:44]  * rgreening thinks they should give innoculations for ubu-flu
[15:47] <Riddell> I was serious with my handkerchief comment, but nooo, you all laughed at me!
[15:48] <Tm_T> Riddell: wow, that page seems to work with Khtml too
[16:01] <jjesse> i hear at the next UDS everyone will have to wear masks
[16:05] <Tm_T> jjesse: Michael Jackson -style?
[16:06] <Riddell> Tm_T: what page?
[16:08] <Tm_T> Riddell: that http://www.euprofiler.eu/
[16:10] <rgreening> shtylman: ping
[16:10] <shtylman> rgreening: here
[16:10] <rgreening> shtylman: hows ooo :)
[16:10]  * rgreening ducks
[16:10] <shtylman> progressing...working on scrollbars right now
[16:10] <shtylman> :)
[16:10] <rgreening> cooooooooollllll
[16:10] <Tm_T> Riddell: though reaaaally slow, as expected
[16:11] <rgreening> keep up th emomentum shtylman
[16:11] <shtylman> heh ... will do
[16:11] <rgreening> s/th e/the /
[16:11] <rgreening> :)
[16:14] <jjesse> Tm_T: yes micheal jackson style masks, like people were wearing at the start of the swine flu outbreak
[16:17] <JontheEchidna> hrm... rekonq git needs a newer webkitkde
[16:22] <Tm_T> jjesse: what if I bring some gas masks?
[16:28] <Tm_T> jjesse: like this one: http://www.varusteleka.eu/prebeo/pictures/thumbs300/1716b.jpg
[16:28] <Tm_T> costs 5 €
[16:32] <jjesse> Tm_T: exactly like those :)
[16:33] <Tm_T> jjesse: like to get one? (;)
[16:34] <jjesse> Tm_T: maybe for the next UDS that I attend :)
[16:35] <maco> wait, why not get MJ-style masks w/ the CoF printed on them?
[16:35] <Tm_T> maco: prize?
[17:12]  * Riddell down to 30 e-mails!
[17:16] <nixternal> Riddell: inbox zero == Mark All As Read
[17:26] <Riddell> nixternal: I'm getting there!
[17:28] <nixternal> I love choqok just that much more now!
[17:28] <nixternal> I have been doing a ctrl+r to mark all as read
[17:29] <nixternal> derr, you don't have to do that, just click the icon and minimize it to the tray, and boom, it marks them all as read :)
[17:40] <Mamarok> nixternal: I discovered that the first day I used choqok :)
[17:47] <nixternal> Mamarok: I am obviously a bit slow :)
[17:48] <Mamarok> nixternal: usually it's me :)
[17:48] <Mamarok> so I am quite proud of that one :)
[17:49] <nixternal> lol
[18:26] <JontheEchidna> btw, was the amarok splash screen removed in 2.1?
[18:26]  * JontheEchidna is wondering if it is just him
[18:30] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: I still have it (alas)
[18:31]  * JontheEchidna wonders where his went
[19:03] <JontheEchidna> jjesse: your bug from yesterday is bug 374654
[19:04] <jjesse> subscribing thanks
[20:08] <jjesse> don't kow if this is reported or not, but if quassel is set to start automatically when i sign in, now that i'm 4.2.4 i have to connect to internal core before it will sign in
[20:25] <Tscheesy_> jjesse: quassel-client yes? there's a quassel-core or so, which should behave different afaik
[20:26] <jjesse> Tscheesy_: before i upgraded to kde 4.2.4 quassel would auto-connect to quassel-core, now when quassel auto starts, i have to connect to the internal core before it will connect to channels
[20:48] <neversfelde> bug #383702 needs a sponsor :)
[21:07] <rgreening> Riddell: ping
[22:24] <functionofxy> hey. has anyone seen apachelogger?
[22:25] <JontheEchidna> ~seen apachelogger
[22:25] <kubotu> apachelogger was last seen 23 hours, 37 minutes and 5 seconds ago, quitting IRC ("https://launchpad.net/~apachelogger")
[22:25] <JontheEchidna> yeah, it was about yesterday when I last saw him
[22:25] <DaSkreech> kubotu has it seems
[22:25] <functionofxy> wow! cool tool. thanks
[22:26] <vorian> ~seen JontheEchidna
[22:26] <kubotu> JontheEchidna was last seen 32 seconds ago, saying "yeah, it was about yesterday when I last saw him"
[22:26] <functionofxy> i was going to gently ask him to update the amarok build in kubuntu-experimental ppa
[22:26] <vorian> ~seen barbiegirl
[22:26] <kubotu> nope!
[22:26] <vorian> lies
[22:26] <JontheEchidna> lol
[22:27] <functionofxy> the 2.1 betas have horrible bugs that erase random stuff from the collection :D
[22:27] <JontheEchidna> functionofxy: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.1
[22:27] <Nightrose> functionofxy: see kubuntu.org
[22:27] <functionofxy> is it going to be updated here: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-experimental/+archive/ppa
[22:28] <JontheEchidna> nope, it's not exactly experimental software anymore ;-)
[22:28] <functionofxy> ah, thanks!
[22:28] <JontheEchidna> that ppa has moved to https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental btw
[22:28] <JontheEchidna> I suppose we should remove the old one
[22:32] <neversfelde> yes please, it is really confusing for the users
[22:32] <neversfelde> and there is Qt 4.5.1, which many people accidently install
[22:36] <functionofxy> AWESOME! collection is back to normal. thanks guys! really quick turnaround.
[23:04] <DaSkreech> Turnaround measured in negativity seconds Sweet!
[23:42] <neversfelde> oh no, Kopetes now playing plugin is broken, what to do now :)
[23:43] <Tm_T> fixit
[23:43] <neversfelde> hehe, probably should