[00:00] <wgrant> Private risk.
[00:00] <wgrant> Impersonation risk.
[00:00] <wgrant> I can just request a password reset link for anybody, then I get access to their account.
[00:02] <persia> Impersonation risk is probably the greater, as private risk is exacerbated by impersonation risk (plus private risk is harder, as it's non-trivial how to trigger private email that contains useful private information)
[00:03] <wgrant> It may be less trivial to trigger private email (but not very hard), but I'm sure lots of users trigger private email on staging in normal use.
[00:05] <persia> Good point.
[00:22] <thumper> persia: wgrant has it right, almost certainly the staging IMAP will stay closed
[00:22] <thumper> persia: although local launchpad instances (for development) do send email
[00:22] <thumper> persia: to user@localhost
[00:22] <thumper> persia: I think it can be configured
[00:22] <persia> user@localhost is easy enough to stuff in /etc/aliases :)
[00:33] <wgrant> Why do the app apocalypses seem to be moving the non-free code into the same namespace as the free stuff, when it all used to be separate? How is the tree split going to work?
[00:33] <ajmitch_> apocalypses?
[00:34] <wgrant> That's what they seem to call it when they move code into the lp.* Python namespace.
[00:37] <maxb> I miss the old LP icon scheme :-(
[00:37] <wgrant> maxb: For builds?
[00:37] <thumper> :)
[00:37] <thumper> ajmitch_: apocalypses because there is likely to be lots of fallout
[00:37] <maxb> yes
[00:38] <thumper> maxb: which one?
[00:38] <thumper> I've not looked at the new one
[00:38] <thumper> I don't touch builds much
[00:38] <thumper> wgrant: getting this from qa notes?
[00:38] <ajmitch_> thumper: And I thought that someone was being smart & using the original meaning of it being an unveiling :)
[00:38] <wgrant> thumper: Yes.
[00:38] <wgrant> maxb: The new ones do seem a bit less clear.
[00:38] <thumper> ajmitch_: ha, no
[00:39] <wgrant> maxb: And they're terribly inconsistent.
[00:41] <maxb> In particular the "currently building" one used to be a constant animation, now it's animate-pause-animate-pause-...
[02:21] <nhandler> I'm trying to delete a team ppa so that I can rename the team. However, I am unable to find an option to do so. The PPA help page also doesn't explain how to do this. Is it possible, or do I need to file a question on answers.launchpad.net?
[02:21] <maxb> needs a question
[02:22] <nhandler> maxb: Can I just request that the team name be changed then? Is there a need to first request the ppa deletion?
[02:23] <maxb> No idea, I'm just repeating what I've heard on this channel previously :-)
[02:26] <spm> nhandler: ppa's don't travel well between team renames - it can be done, but there can be issues. :-/ the other gotcha with team renames is if you have an email list.
[02:28] <nhandler> spm: The PPAs are empty, so that isn't an issue. The teams do have email lists though. What type of problems would renaming the team cause (aside from a new address)?
[02:29] <spm> nhandler: it makes my life a misery if we have to migrate the list ;-)
[02:30] <spm> nhandler: seriously tho - it can be done. isn't too hard. just a *lot* easier if the archives can be ditched. but!!! if you want the archives kept, that is cool. complaints from me to the contrary :-)
[02:34] <lifeless> spm: don't be telling users that they can choose to make your life a misery.... ;)
[02:34] <nhandler> spm: I just checked, and we can ditch the archives.
[02:35] <nhandler> Can I file one question requesting all of the ubuntuforums-beginners-* teams be renamed to ubuntu-beginners-*, or do I need to file separate ones? Also, does it matter that I am not the owner for all of these teams (I am for the main ubuntuforums-beginners team)
[02:36] <spm> nhandler: whatever you prefer. one Q is fine, multiple is more karma points for me, or one of the other losas ;-)
[02:36] <spm> lifeless: :-D
[02:37] <nhandler> spm: And does it matter that I am not the owner of all of the LP teams? (I am the owner of the main ~ubuntuforums-beginners team)
[02:38] <spm> nhandler: hmmm. to a certain extent, yeah it does - we need to verify that JoeRandom isn't creating social engineering attack havoc....
[02:39] <nhandler> spm: So even though I own the parent team ubuntuforums-beginners, I need to get the owner of ubuntuforums-beginners-foo to sign off?
[02:39] <spm> hmm. maybe... not. in your case.
[02:39] <spm> nhandler: this was just brought up at the recent CC meeting wasn't it?
[02:40] <nhandler> spm: Yes, they suggested renaming the team at the CC meeting
[02:42] <spm> nhandler: (just checking what all the teams are) the only one that makes me twitchy was the team council, and you're and admin for that. so I'd suggest all is groovy.
[02:44] <nhandler> spm: That is great. I'll file the questions now. I decided to go with multiple questions in order to ensure that all of the teams get renamed (it also will get you the karma ;) )
[02:44] <nhandler> Thanks a lot for your help
[02:44] <spm> heh. np!
[10:35]  * MaWaLe is away: brb
[10:37]  * MaWaLe is back (gone 00:01:34)
[12:03] <RockyRoad> Hi
[12:04] <RockyRoad> I just added some bzr tags to revisions (copied from CVS). They don't show up in lp interface ?
[12:04] <RockyRoad> Or is there a better way to do it ?
[12:05] <RockyRoad> they mark past releases
[12:06] <RockyRoad> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~m-baert/planet-drupal/5.x
[12:09] <RockyRoad> Or should I create lp releases ?
[12:17] <jpds> RockyRoad: Tags don't come up on the code. pages.
[12:24] <RockyRoad> It's my 1st lp project, I try to get how it goes
[12:24] <geser> how can I check with LP API if a team is subscribed to a bug before (un)subscribing them? or can I simply try to (un)subscribe them and hope LP will do the right thing?
[12:27] <intellectronica> geser: you can just try to unsubscribe the team
[12:27] <wgrant> geser: You could search through the subscriber list, but you could more quickly construct the subscription's URL and check if it 404s.
[12:27] <wgrant> Or do what intellectronica says.
[12:46] <geser> what's the correct way to change status or importance of a bug through the API? task.importance = value or task.transitionToImportance()?
[12:51] <intellectronica> geser: they are equivalent, but i'd prefer to read code that uses assignment to the attribute and patching the object. transitionToImportance is an implementation detail, really. i think we should remove it
[12:55] <geser> intellectronica: how do I "patch" the object through the LP API? just setting task.status doesn't seem to be enough. How do I save this change?
[12:55] <wgrant> task.lp_save()
[12:56] <geser> ah
[12:56] <geser> it could be documented better
[12:56] <intellectronica> geser: sorry, i wasn't clear. what wgrant said. behind the scenes it triggers an HTTP PATCH request
[12:56] <intellectronica> geser: the documentation is on a wiki ;)
[12:57] <wgrant> geser: It's documented where it describes setting of attributes...
[12:57] <geser> found it now (after searching the page for lp_save)
[13:00] <geser> so I've all parts together for my script to ACK sync requests
[13:01] <nhandler> geser: Are you going to add it to ubuntu-dev-tools?
[13:02] <geser> I might at the end, but first it would need some more checks before I make it available to the public
[13:11] <luks> is there a known problem with PPAs?
[13:12] <luks> I've uploaded a package two days ago to https://launchpad.net/~qbzr-dev/+archive/ppa
[13:12] <luks> but it's still not there
[13:13] <luks> and if I try to reupload it, I get only "Already uploaded to ppa.launchpad.net"
[13:13] <geser> remove the .upload file (or use dput -f)
[13:14] <luks> well, I know how to force it
[13:14] <luks> but I'm not sure if it will help
[13:15] <wgrant> Is the changes file signed with the right key?
[13:15] <luks> wouldn't it send me a mail if it wasn't?
[13:15] <luks> but yes, it is
[13:15] <wgrant> That's one of the few cases where it can't send you an email.
[13:16] <wgrant> Because otherwise I could just throw unsigned changes files at ppa.launchpad.net, and Launchpad would happily drown arbitrary people with email.
[13:16] <luks> it's signed using DSA key ID 92132F7B and https://launchpad.net/~luks says it has the key
[13:17] <wgrant> Sounds like you'll need somebody to look at the logs.
[13:17] <wgrant> But try uploading again.
[13:17] <luks> hm, yeah, I tried to force it and now it accepted it
[13:17] <luks> weird
[13:17] <luks> isn't there some kind of queue that checks for uploaded but unprocessed packages?
[13:18] <wgrant> The upload queue is checked every 5 minutes.
[13:19] <luks> anyway, must have been some temporary glitch
[13:19] <luks> everything seems to work fine now
[13:20] <luks> oh, and surprisingly quickly built
[13:20] <luks> cool
[13:20] <wgrant> Yep.
[13:20] <wgrant> And somehow the source is already published.
[13:20] <wgrant> I don't see how it could have been published at 12:15UTC.
[13:20] <wgrant> When did you get the Accepted email?
[13:21] <luks> Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:15 PM
[13:22] <wgrant> That is 7 minutes ago?
[13:23] <luks> yes
[14:47] <bigjools> wgrant: still there?
[14:54] <wgrant> bigjools: I am.
[14:55] <bigjools> wgrant: have you noticed that we changed the publishing interval for PPAs?
[14:55] <bigjools> and what are you doing up this late? :)
[14:56] <wgrant> bigjools: I was wondering about that. is it 5-minutely now?
[14:56] <bigjools> yep
[14:56] <wgrant> Very nice!
[14:56] <bigjools> well the script only takes about 2 minutes
[14:57] <wgrant> Right. I'd always wondered why it was */20...
[14:57] <bigjools> because ..... <waves hand>
[14:57] <wgrant> Heh.
[15:00] <wgrant> Well, now I'm a bit less confused as to how that source got published at 12:15.
[15:00] <wgrant> And I should probably go to bed.
[15:51] <savvas> is there a bug to the way email subscription to code.lp works?
[15:52] <happyaron> hi, someone ask me that he got a mail saying he needs renew his membership in ubuntu-users launchpad group, but the link followed returns a Page Not Found.
[15:52] <beuno> savvas, you'll need to be more specific
[15:52] <beuno> happyaron, did you change his username?
[15:53] <savvas> beuno: sorry, I subscribed myself to https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cy-webteam/ubuntu-cy-website/trunk - I edited my subscription to receive emails about changes and revisions 11 and 12 aren't sent to me as an email
[15:53] <savvas> I've pushed 11 and 12
[15:53] <happyaron> beuno: I don't know why because I am just a member of that group, not an administrator
[15:53] <happyaron> He just send me a mail, I don't know why he choose to ask me, :)
[15:54] <happyaron> https://launchpad.net/~midali/+expiringmembership/ubunt-users
[15:54] <savvas> beuno: I received revision 10 though
[15:54] <happyaron> here is the link he has got, it's truly a Page Not Found
[15:54] <happyaron> but I didn't receive such a mail though I am also a member of that group
[15:55] <beuno> happyaron, seemst here's a typo there
[15:55] <beuno> savvas, you should of gotten those emails
[15:55] <happyaron> beuno: what?
[15:55] <beuno> happyaron,
[15:55] <beuno> happyaron, BTW: I read all the IRC logs and liked the "Would you think KDE One is a
[15:56] <beuno> service from Nokia?" question, which as far as I can see was dodged a
[15:56] <beuno> er
[15:56] <beuno> few times. It might not be 100% applicable here, because KDE owns its
[15:56] <beuno> own trademark and Nokia "only" provides Qt + a few devs (or just Aaron
[15:56] <beuno> ignore that
[15:56] <beuno> BTW: I read all the IRC logs and liked the "Would you think KDE One is a
[15:56] <beuno> service from Nokia?" question, which as far as I can see was dodged a
[15:56] <beuno> few times. It might not be 100% applicable here, because KDE owns its
[15:56] <beuno> own trademark and Nokia "only" provides Qt + a few devs (or just Aaron
[15:56] <beuno> ffs.................
[15:56] <beuno> copynpaste in linux can't be this broken...
[15:56] <happyaron> beuno: I am not that Aaron who works for KDE...
[15:56] <beuno> https://launchpad.net/~midali/+expiringmembership/ubunt-users
[15:56] <savvas> beuno: they're not in spam folder :\ I've noticed the same for revisions 8 and 9
[15:56] <beuno> happyaron, ignore that
[15:57] <beuno> happyaron, look at the URL
[15:57] <beuno> maybe it should be: ubuntu-users
[15:57] <beuno> not ubunt-users?
[15:57] <beuno> the team must have been renamed or something
[15:57] <happyaron> beuno: oh, yeah
[15:57] <savvas> perhaps something wrong with the application that handles the emails?
[15:58] <savvas> I mean server-wise
[15:58] <happyaron> savvas: maybe, I may go to fill an Answer
[15:59] <savvas> happyaron: sorry, our questions got mixed, it wasn't for you, but it would seem wise to do that :)
[15:59] <happyaron> savvas: :-)
[16:10] <savvas> in case someone is interested in my case, here are the full details: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/73238
[16:56] <popey> I am getting an odd message when I upload to my ppa.. "Could not find person ''" - in the rejected mail
[16:56] <popey> ah, ignore me, I know what this is
[17:07] <greg-g> anyone else getting tons (4+ a day) of spam to their launchpad hosted mailing lists? It is a moderated list, which helps, but means i need to manually mark them "Discard" every so often.
[17:15] <Riddell> greg-g: all mailing lists attract spam
[17:15] <Riddell> I set all the lists I admin to subscribers posting only, it's the only reliable way to stop spam
[17:19]  * mpt loves the new extra options when reporting a bug
[17:22] <greg-g> Riddell: good point. I just wish the launchpad mailman interface had a "mark all messages that are Defer to Discard" similar to the mailman interface on lists.ubuntu.com (yeah, I reported a bug ;) ).
[17:25] <Riddell> mm, that's a very useful feature
[17:25] <miik> what is 'One Hundred Paper Cuts' ?
[17:26] <greg-g> miik: small useability issues which are easy to work around, yet make the experience less than ideal.  Usually they are simple fixes (see: David Seigel's latest blog post on planet.ubuntu)
[17:27] <miik> oh
[17:27] <miik> well, is anyone going to fix them?
[17:27] <greg-g> that is the idea
[17:27] <miik> okie
[17:27] <miik> i hope so
[17:28] <greg-g> this is kind of off-topic for this channel, though.
[17:31] <miik> ok
[18:00] <maxb> Weirdness. If I search LP for "Death By a Hundred Paper Cuts", the top search result is the blueprint - but if I follow the link, I get a Not Found / OOPS
[18:00] <maxb> OOPS-1251A1371 for example
[18:01] <maxb> leonardr: Is something obviously wrong, or shall I file a bug?
[18:01] <leonardr> maxb: an oops always means something's wrong, but i think there's a bug for that already
[18:03] <maxb> I can't find one in /launchpad, is it in one of the more specific projects?
[18:03] <leonardr> maxb: it's bug 383191
[18:03] <leonardr> it's technically a related bug, but i bet they have the same cause
[18:05] <maxb> Hmm. Really? The blueprint URL was valid at some time in the past, because it's in google's cache with the actual data
[18:55] <leonardr> maxb: you're right, i think it's different
[18:55] <leonardr> it looks like the blueprint was moved to a different project
[18:55] <leonardr> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+spec/desktop-karmic-death-by-100-paper-cuts
[18:56] <leonardr> and the search hasn't caught up yet
[18:59] <aogail> Hi all. Is it possible for launchpad to import a darcs branch?
[19:01] <leonardr> maxb: confirmed, this is normal behavior. when something changes url it will be a while before the crawler finds it again
[19:07] <lool> Hey, I'm trying to rename a PPA, or alternatively to delete it; I can't find the link to achieve this -- isn't this possible at this time?
[19:08] <beuno> cprov, ^
[19:08] <cprov> lool: what's the problem with the existing PPA ?  does it already have uploads ?
[19:08] <maco> so what parts of LP are being open sourced soonish?
[19:09] <lool> cprov: it has one source package; the ppa is named after the implementation I started using, but it was a dead end and I'm moving to a different one, with a different name
[19:09] <beuno> maco, https://dev.launchpad.net/OpenSourcing
[19:09] <lool> The PPA was meant to carry a linux kernel and qemu version for "realview" but the upstream linux support is actually lacking -- I thought it was complete but it isn't -- now I'm moving to "versatile" and realview is in the ppa name
[19:10] <cprov> lool: file a question in soyuz asking LOSAs to mark it as disabled.
[19:10] <lool> I don't care about the contents, I'll rename the source package
[19:10] <lool> cprov: Ok, thanks
[19:10] <cprov> lool: create a new PPA and life goes on.
[19:13] <maco> which part is Soyuz?
[19:13] <lool> cprov: This PPA was "special"  :)
[19:14] <cprov> maco: the part that deal with packages in distributions
[19:15] <maco> as in the part that does the building, or the PPA part, or do you mean it tracks $application v. $application-as-packaged-in-$distro?
[19:35] <alkisg> cprov: Hi, I've had a PPA key uid problem and I've opened a question as you instructed me: https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/72982
[19:35] <alkisg> Would it be possible to have a look at it in the next few days? (We are preparing to publish a tutorial and it involves adding the ppa key). Thanks!
[19:37] <al-maisan> alkisg: AFAIK PPAs cannot be renamed; your best bet may be to create *another* PPA with the name desired.
[19:38] <alkisg> al-maisan: No, the PPA is fine, it's the uid that is the problem. cprov said he could create another uid but it would be a little difficult.
[19:38] <al-maisan> aha ..
[19:38] <al-maisan> OK then
[19:51] <DanDan> hello
[19:51] <DanDan> hello .. I have recently upgraded to Ubuntu 9.04 (amd64) and have a broken packagae ( flashplugin-nonfree ) ..it wont be removed / reinstalled / or deleted by deleting the files manually !!!! .. ANYONE Plz :( !! ..
[19:51] <DanDan> and when I finally got a bug report .. I reported to launchpad and then  get  a msg that since I upgraded by skipping releases they dont support the bug !! :|
[19:52] <beuno> DanDan, we don't do Ubuntu support here
[19:52] <beuno> please head over to #ubuntu
[20:54] <fta> d'oh! http://launchpadlibrarian.net/27504489/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.chromium-browser_3.0.184.0~svn20090604r17637-0ubuntu1~ucd1_CHROOTWAIT.txt.gz
[20:55] <fta> WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed.
[20:55] <fta> This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!
[20:55] <fta>   mktemp
[20:57] <romao> Shoudn't my username/link-to-my-user-page be identified whenever I push to a branch using one of my ssh-keys for authentication?
[20:57] <beuno> romao, you have to set your launchpad username
[20:57] <beuno> bzr lp-login USERNAME
[20:58] <romao> beuno: yeah, this was done -- but on code.launchpad appears my ssh-key comment instead of my name
[20:59] <beuno> romao, ah
[20:59] <beuno> so
[20:59] <beuno> bzr whoami 'You Name <your@email>'
[21:00] <romao> beuno: this, afaik, whill change de display for the ssh comment, right!? What I'm wondering is if it shouldn't actually put a link to my launchpad profile instead
[21:01] <stani> do I have to sign my source packages to upload them with dput to my PPA?
[21:01] <beuno> romao, I have no idea what you mean by "ssh comment"
[21:01] <stani> can I also upload non signed source packages?
[21:01] <LarstiQ> stani: no
[21:02] <LarstiQ> stani: the gpg signature is used to determine wether you have upload rights to the ppa
[21:02] <romao> beuno: oh, sorry... the "whoami" command will only whange the display from "<username>@<hostname>" to "My Name <email>", right?
[21:02] <LarstiQ> stani: (as well as attributing the upload to the key's owner)
[21:02] <beuno> romao, yes
[21:03] <beuno> but not retroactively
[21:03] <beuno> for new commits
[21:03] <stani> LarstiQ: is there a way to sign my packages without having to type my secret phrase?
[21:03] <LarstiQ> stani: I use gpg-agent with caching enabled (and an openpgp smartcard)
[21:03] <stani> I am looking for ways to make uploading to ppa less work, especially when uploading to multiple versions
[21:03]  * LarstiQ nods
[21:03] <stani> ok, I'll google that thanks
[21:04] <LarstiQ> someone recently mentioned having a seperate gpg key for automated nightly builds/uploads
[21:04] <LarstiQ> maxb: was that you?
[21:04] <romao> beuno: Ok, making things clear: https://code.launchpad.net/~caioromao/apport/pardus-bugzilla -- Shouldn't this all be "Caio Romão" with a link to my launchpad profile instead?
[21:04] <beuno> romao, only when you've set your email address
[21:05] <beuno> and have that registered in launchpad
[21:05] <beuno> that's how launchpad matches commits to users  :)
[21:06] <LaPingvino> oi romão, tudo bem? (não sou brasileiro nem portugues, sou da holanda)
[21:06] <LaPingvino> (tô aprendendo português do brasil)
[21:06] <romao> beuno: hmm, I thought that this would be resolved through my ssh id -- Thanks for the info ;)
[21:07] <beuno> romao, DVCs make that very hard, so the short answer is "no"
[21:07] <romao> LaPingvino: está indo muito bem com o português, parabéns ;)
[21:08] <LaPingvino> não tam bom... só de um mes, pouco mais
[21:08] <LaPingvino> mas obrigado pelas parabéns
[21:09] <LaPingvino> tô aprendendo pela minha namorada ;)
[21:10] <LaPingvino> aonde mora? vou ao brasil na terca-feira... :P
[21:11] <LaPingvino> mas bem, vou parar de falar em português aqui, cre que é só ingles aqui... ;)
[21:12] <romao> LaPingvino: em São Paulo - (switching to english) where are you going?
[21:13] <LaPingvino> My flight goes Amsterdam - Madrid - São Paulo - Porto Alegre
[21:13] <LaPingvino> (a minha namorada mora aí, não tudos têm que saber disso ;))
[21:14] <LaPingvino> airport São Paulo GRU, 18h10 on 9th of june
[21:14] <romao> cool. Porto Alegre is a great city. Going to FISL?
[21:15] <LaPingvino> FISL?
[21:16] <crevette> hello
[21:16] <maxb> LarstiQ: yes, me
[21:17]  * LarstiQ nudges maxb in stani's direction
[21:17] <romao> LaPingvino: Forum Internacional de Software Livre (I'll begin on June 23rd, iirc)
[21:17] <LaPingvino> I'll be gone by then already...
[21:18] <crevette> I received a CHROOTWAIT error while trying to build a package in my ppa, is it a know error?
[21:18] <crevette> https://edge.launchpad.net/~bmillemathias/+archive/ppa/+build/1060621
[21:20] <cprov> crevette: let me check
[21:22] <maxb> Doh! I asked a question about moving my key between accounts, and commented on it from the second account to confirm that both the accounts are me...... only just noticed that that caused it to go into a "Needs Information" status :-/
[21:22] <cprov> crevette: uhm, karmic is apparently in a broken state. Can you check its state in #ubuntu-devel or better #ubuntu-motu
[21:26] <crevette> cprov: Okay I'll do
[21:26] <crevette> thanks
[21:34] <fta> cprov, it's an essential package, i doubt it's about motu
[21:37] <fta> new coreutils
[21:37] <cprov> fta: right, I said that more in the sense that you might know better than me what's going on
[21:38] <cprov> fta: and I was right :)
[21:45] <w4ett> Hi...We're having some trouble in the Tennessee Team https://launchpad.net/~tennessee.team Our Team Owner has been MIA about 10 Months now and we have voted on a change of ownership  http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/06/03/%23ubuntu-meeting.html
[21:46] <pleia2> having admins on this team has been a problem for a long time, the owner keeps disappearing, we keep having to ask for admins to be added: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/14800
[21:46] <pleia2> so it would be nice to finally just get the founder replaced with someone who is around
[21:47] <beuno> pleia2, sounds like you need to talk to jono
[21:48] <w4ett> I am at present an appointed admin for the team and have been selected to act as the new team owner
[21:48] <pleia2> JanC said we just needed to ask in here
[21:48] <pleia2> JanC: help :)
[21:48] <kiko> beuno, we can handle this really
[21:48] <kiko> is there a question filed already?
[21:48]  * beuno defers to the all powerful kiko
[21:49] <pleia2> kiko: the question I posted was about adding admins, not changing the owner - should a new one be filed against launchpad for the owner change?
[21:49] <w4ett> not as of yet kiko ...
[21:50] <kiko> w4ett, pleia2: it needs a question, but I'll do it then
[21:50] <w4ett> kiko: thanks
[21:59] <w4ett> kiko:  The question is here:  https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/73275  Thank you for your help.
[22:02] <savvas> is there a general problem with chroot on build ports? https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cgal/3.4-4ubuntu1
[22:03] <savvas> ignore the above, got my reply on #ubuntu-motu - I'll try later :)
[22:47] <maxb> document storage? LP stores documents?
[22:48] <mwhudson> i think it means the librarian
[22:50] <spm> it does
[22:54] <nhandler> spm: I filed those questions about the team renames we were discussing yesterday
[22:55] <spm> nhandler: cool - do you have a number/link? it hasn't been passed thru to our queue yet, so I'll grab myself.
[22:55] <nhandler> spm: Questions 73194, 73195, 73196, 73197, 73198 and 73199
[22:56] <spm> ta
[22:56] <nhandler> Thanks again for all of your help spm
[23:10] <xteejx> Guys, I think LP is down, but there's no planned maintenance?
[23:11] <xteejx> It's only when I try to login though...
[23:12] <dtchen> seems planned from the announcements i saw (also in /topic)
[23:12] <spm> xteejx: there is planned maintenence - we're doing an update on the librarian
[23:12] <xteejx> spm, Oh right I didn't see it on the news section of LP sorry lol
[23:12] <spm> :-)
[23:13] <xteejx> Its only for 10 minutes just seen the topic heh thanks guys :)
[23:22] <tsimpson> maintenance taking longer than 10 mins?
[23:22] <elmo> tsimpson: yeah, we ran into some difficulties
[23:22] <elmo> services are coming back up now
[23:23] <tsimpson> ok :)
[23:23] <bryce> tsimpson: LP withdrawl?
[23:24] <ajmitch> bryce: it's a problem when the openid provider goes down as well :)
[23:24] <garyvdm> It's amazing how unproductive I am with out lp
[23:24] <tsimpson> you don't realize how much you depend on it until it goes down for 20 mins :p
[23:24] <bryce> yep yep
[23:29] <mthaddon> ajmitch: the openid part stayed up during it all
[23:29] <mthaddon> ajmitch: or at least, should have done
[23:30] <mthaddon> ajmitch: were you experiencing openid problems?
[23:31] <ajmitch> yes
[23:31] <mthaddon> ajmitch: what kind of problems?
[23:31] <ajmitch> I was getting "Not a valid OpenID URL" from identi.ca until LP appeared to come back
[23:32] <mthaddon> ajmitch: k, thx - I'll look into it
[23:32] <ajmitch> using https://launchpad.net/~ajmitch as the url
[23:32] <mthaddon> thinking about it that makes sense - we have app servers that are dedicated to login.launchpad.net that were kept running, but that doesn't help much if your identity URL is down
[23:33] <mwhudson> jamesh was talking about doing discovery (which i think this step is?) in apache
[23:33] <mthaddon> mwhudson: I'm going to email the list with this info in any case
[23:33] <mwhudson> the only thing that the ~user -> login redirect does in effect is check that ~user exists
[23:34] <mwhudson> and something later on will go wrong if that was false
[23:34] <mwhudson> mthaddon: yeah, good idea
[23:54] <MTecknology> mthaddon: any time to answer a question?
[23:54] <MTecknology> mthaddon: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/71199
[23:54] <mthaddon> MTecknology: sure
[23:56] <mthaddon> MTecknology: description is a required field :)
[23:57] <mthaddon> "A description of the Relying Party, explaining why the user should authenticate."
[23:58] <MTecknology> mthaddon: "Kalliki Software | User Login"
[23:59] <MTecknology> that sounds good enough?
[23:59] <mthaddon> ok, done
[23:59] <MTecknology> ya - that's beautiful :D