[00:00] <nixternal> setting the screensaver to 1 minute to see if that is it
[00:01] <nixternal> yup, that is it
[00:01] <albert23> and you have an intel card?
[00:01] <nixternal> what kind of screensaver is that? :p
[00:01] <nixternal> yup
[00:02] <nixternal> interesting, even when I click "Preview" it does that
[00:07] <Sarvatt> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/383129
[00:08] <Sarvatt> can disable compiz to fix it until the driver is updated, its already fixed upstream just needs packaging
[01:37] <DanielRM> Anyone find that their Broadcom wireless suddenly doesn't work?
[10:35]  * MaWaLe is away: brb
[10:37]  * MaWaLe is back (gone 00:01:34)
[10:39] <maxb> The double suspend when suspending via keyboard bug is back in Karmic
[10:40] <maxb> Also g-p-m is now showing a popup saying "your computer failed to suspend", even though it did
[10:40] <maxb> with *no* additional info whatsoever :-(
[10:43] <yofel> *sigh* - It would be nice if Karmic finally got a sane default for switching keyboard layouts. The default is still "both alt keys together", which never works...
[11:12] <hifi> alt-shift is the industry standard ;)
[12:16] <Hew> Has anyone heard anything about Firefox 3.5 (as default) in Karmic, from the Mozilla team or otherwise?
[12:48]  * arand : 101 updates all of a sudden, sheesh.
[13:35] <scizzo-> Hew: isnt that only beta?
[13:51] <gumpert345> Hi, Id like to play a little with 9.10 how can I update a Jaunty install? from intrepid to jaunty there was a special apt-get command?
[13:53] <gumpert345> found
[14:43] <Hew> scizzo-: yes it's beta, but I think it should be released by Karmic release
[14:44] <Hew> scizzo-: besides, Hardy shipped with 3.0 b5
[15:10] <c_korn> what setting do I have to enable in PolicyKit to be able to change the fast-user-switch-applet settings?
[15:50] <arand> Funny stuff, I'm getting crashes for lsb_release, meaning that if I try to report it, apport invokes lsb_release, which will crash and if I try to report it, apport invokes lsb_release, which crashes, and if I try to report it...
[15:59] <dholbach> Packaging Training with mvo in #ubuntu-classroom now!
[16:41] <maxb> Anyone else found xchat crashing a log on Karmic in the last day or two?
[17:15] <miik> what is 'One Hundred Paper Cuts' ?
[17:16] <arand> 2009-06-04 16:54:25 status unpacked libsane 1.0.20-4ubuntu1
[17:17] <arand> Um, in dpkg-log if I get ~ 70 lines of the above kind, is that an indication that something is wrong?
[17:17] <arand> s/dpkg-log/dpkg.log/
[17:31] <maxb> miik: https://launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts
[17:41] <oDesk> Hello, i'm on 9.10 karmic, unloaded Alsa driver and i can't get it to reload the taskbar icon and sound output isn't presented!!!
[19:08] <shaya> do people have problems w/ flash hanging firefox after one closes a tab?
[19:09] <shaya> firefox is hanging a lot on me, and main thing I see is it in regards to flash
[19:09] <shaya> flash also loses its ability to play audio
[19:09] <pace_t_zulu> anyone else having problems with open-vm-toolbox today?
[19:09] <pace_t_zulu> since i today's package upgrades open-vm-toolbox doesn't enter fullscreen properly
[19:20] <oDesk> shaya: all applications was hanging until i removed the graphical effects
[19:21] <shaya> only firefox hangs for me
[19:21] <shaya> and needs  to be killed and restarted
[19:21] <shaya> seems to be flash and audio related
[19:21] <nixternal> back with yet another issue...seems with the kernel...it will not boot, so I go into recovery mode and it doesn't boot either, it gets stuck at the point where it is detecting the USB mouse. is this common? anyone else experiencing it?
[19:23] <nixternal> booyah...it unfreezes after a certain amount of time and lets me know that /proc/cmdline is missing modules...go figure, /dev/disk/by-uuid/4830840327jlfjdla8=f-d8as0300432 does not exist :)
[19:23] <nixternal> that was easy
[19:25] <oDesk> nixternal: i was having kernel booting problem using "quite splash" mode
[19:25] <oDesk> then i fixed it by changing that mode to
[19:26] <oDesk> vga=0x318
[19:26] <nixternal> well, in recovery mode there shouldn't be "quiet", just 'ro single'
[19:26] <nixternal> this is dying in recovery mode as well
[19:27] <oDesk> nixternal: i'm not an expert, but just hint
[19:27] <oDesk> i still have problems with touchpad clicks
[19:27]  * nixternal is jealous that vga=0x318 works for you though
[19:27] <nixternal> I can run that on the same machine with debian, and it works like a champ...run it with Ubuntu and it kills my stuff as well
[19:27] <oDesk> and sound, which disappeared after unloading alsa and never reloaded again
[19:28] <oDesk> nixternal: so, it should work if you have graphic card issue
[19:30] <oDesk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1168470
[19:30] <oDesk> nixternal: the url above where i got the boot fixed
[19:31] <nixternal> what is weird is this laptop, which is running Kubuntu Karmic has 0 issues, but Ubuntu desktop dies
[19:31] <nixternal> and it is related to drive uuid according to the error message once it pops up after the timeout
[19:48] <nixternal> for some strange reason, the uuid for my sda5_crypt was wrong in /etc/crypttab
[19:48] <nixternal> though that doesn't seem to fix it either
[20:02] <oDesk> anyone have suggestion to fix the touchpad clicks ?
[20:09] <Twigathy> yetanother kernel update :o
[21:29] <maxb> nixternal: The drive uuid probing code has changed a lot, you'd probably be best specifying a root device using plain old /dev/foo just to get it to boot
[21:29] <maxb> Then you can play with blkid, to see what uuids are actually being detected from your disks, and compare with what's configured in fstab and stuff
[21:48] <FFForever> any idea why i have no sound in flash?
[21:48] <FFForever> nvm no sound @ all
[21:53] <mrwes> Just ran update manager and I'm getting a request for a partial update, should I run that?
[21:56] <mrwes> anyone alive today?
[21:59] <scizzo-> mrwes: you know what that means right?
[21:59] <scizzo-> mrwes: the partial update
[22:00] <mrwes> no...thus why I'm asking
[22:00] <scizzo-> mrwes: it means either that a package is broken or dependency problems
[22:00] <scizzo-> mrwes: meaning that not everything will be updated
[22:00] <scizzo-> mrwes: its better to wait until that has been fixed
[22:00] <scizzo-> mrwes: otherwise other stuff might get broken
[22:00] <mrwes> scizzo-, yah that's exactly what it said
[22:01] <mrwes> scizzo-, so sit on it, and it'll fixor itself?
[22:01] <scizzo-> mrwes: its a alpha system
[22:01] <scizzo-> mrwes: this will come more often then you think
[22:01] <mrwes> again...that I am aware
[22:01] <mrwes> ok
[22:01] <scizzo-> mrwes: waiting for it to be fixed is best
[22:02] <mrwes> so DON"T click on partial upgrade?
[22:03] <scizzo-> wait have you clicked upgrade the packages or something?
[22:03] <mrwes> I just ran the update manager
[22:03] <mrwes> .
[22:03] <scizzo-> and no you do not want to partial upgrade
[22:04] <mrwes> danke
[22:04] <scizzo-> clicking no should give you information about packages that is not going to be install etc
[22:04] <scizzo-> mrwes: dep problem thingy
[22:04] <mrwes> got it
[22:06] <mrwes> thanks for the information
[22:06] <scizzo-> yw
[22:36] <joshjtl> hi folks I'm trying to have my touchpad disable when i plug in my usb mouse... synclient Touchpad=1 works, but having this file in /etc/udev/rules.d/01-touchpad.rules with: http://fpaste.org/paste/13919 doesnt work to disable touchpad when i plug in usb mouse...
[22:37] <arand> hmm, I just use the gconf value: gconftool --set --type bool /desktop/gnome/peripherals/mouse/touchpad_enabled true/false , just mapped to a hotkey currently...
[22:39]  * arand realises that that might have been just an irrelevant comment
[22:40] <joshjtl> anyone?
[22:47] <joshjtl> hi folks I'm trying to have my touchpad disable when i plug in my usb mouse... synclient Touchpad=1 works, but having this file in /etc/udev/rules.d/01-touchpad.rules with: http://fpaste.org/paste/13919 doesnt work to disable touchpad when i plug in usb mouse...
[23:08] <KDesk> hi
[23:09] <KDesk> Using Jaunty, what options do I need to set (and which not) in the kernel config to have KMS with intel.
[23:09] <KDesk> Or does anyone know a compiled kernel with that options?
[23:10] <KDesk> When will that by enabled in karmic?
[23:19] <Sarvatt> its enabled in karmic now, with the karmic kernel you just edit /etc/modprobe.d/i915.conf and add options i915 modeset=1 to it
[23:19] <Sarvatt> theres no KMS on 2.6.28 in jaunty if that's what you're asking
[23:37] <KDesk> Sarvatt: thanks for the info. I am using in jaunty your xserver mesa drm and intel packages from xorg edgers, and the 2.6.30 rc8 kernel.
[23:37] <KDesk> Does this kernel have kms?
[23:37] <Sarvatt> depends where you got the kernel
[23:37] <Sarvatt> are you using karmics?
[23:37] <Sarvatt> 2.6.30-8.9
[23:37] <KDesk> ah, the kernel is from the semi official from ubuntu.
[23:38] <Sarvatt> the mainline ones?
[23:38] <KDesk> 2.6.30-020630rc8-generic
[23:38] <KDesk> yes, I think so
[23:39] <KDesk> from these kernel config file: # CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS is not set
[23:39] <KDesk> It is disabled?
[23:43] <Sarvatt> that config option just turns it on by default
[23:44] <Sarvatt> on the mainline kernels its a bit harder to enable it, you're going to need to edit your /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
[23:44] <Sarvatt> and add these 3 (in the same order)
[23:44] <Gourlis> anyone knows here if I will can use 9.10 with ATI Radeon X1200 which ATI stopped support ? because 9.04 was flickering on my system so I use 8.10
[23:44] <Sarvatt> intel_agp
[23:44] <Sarvatt> drm
[23:44] <Sarvatt> i915 modeset=1intel_agp
[23:44] <Sarvatt> drm
[23:44] <Sarvatt> i915 modeset=1
[23:45] <Sarvatt> ahh sorry
[23:45] <Sarvatt> intel_agp on one line, drm on the next, then i915 modeset=1 on the third
[23:45] <Sarvatt> then do a update-initramfs -k `uname -r` -u to rebuild the initrd
[23:46] <Sarvatt> KDesk: go figure you left, i have part messages off  :)
[23:47] <KDesk> My system freeze. Thanks Sarvattfor the info!
[23:47] <maxb> urgh. I really must remember to deactivate apt-listchanges when doing a do-release-upgrade in the future :-/
[23:48] <Sarvatt> its because you need to do the initrd change to use the mainline kernel KDesk
[23:49] <Sarvatt> you cant just edit the modprobe.d option because it loads intel_agp too late, I sent ya a message with what to do
[23:50] <Sarvatt> it's alot easier to use the karmic kernel where you can do that though :D
[23:51] <KDesk> Ah, thaknks Sarvatt, I will then download the one from Karmic, when It doesn't work then I will try with the mainline.