[13:14] <pan1nx> isn't there supposed to be an ubuntu-meeting today?
[13:20] <pan1nx> Ok, so it seems that the meeting is for 21:00 UTC but the http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar said something else. Can someone change it there? THe right time?
[13:21] <pan1nx> persia...do you have the rights to change that? Thanks...
[13:22] <persia> pan1nx, I don't know.  I'll check.
[13:22] <pan1nx> thanks persia
[13:23] <persia> Hrm.  I can't figure out who invited the calendar to that meeting :(
[13:24] <persia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Calendar seems to indicate it's just an event in someone's calendar, and they invited the fridge.
[13:24] <persia> Does anyone here remember setting up this invitation?
[13:30] <lool> There's a meeting, but it's later today
[13:30] <lool> It's 9pm UTC
[13:32] <persia> Right, but the fridge is wrong, and that ought be fixed.  The trick is determining who created the fridge entry.
[13:40] <pan1nx> oh man...
[13:40] <pan1nx> can't we delete the old entry and fire up a new one
[13:42] <persia> The entry was fixed.  Revisionist history is good for you :)
[13:43] <persia> The meeting is at 21:00.  The meeting has always been at 21:00. :)
[13:53] <pan1nx> persia I just placed the fridge to my sync calendar
[13:53] <pan1nx> persia: just for the record, how did you change it?
[13:55] <persia> I didn't.  One of the members of the team that maintains the fridge calendar changed it.
[13:55] <persia> See -meeting for details
[14:14] <pan1nx> ok...master cody :D
[15:41] <rzr__> new nokia tablet  : Video about  N900 and maemo5 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=293687&posted=1#post293687
[21:10] <v29a> hi there. anyone of you got mid 9.10 running in virtualbox?
[21:12] <ian_brasil> v29a: yes
[21:14] <v29a> ian_brasil: did you configure anything specific?
[21:14] <v29a> i can get 8.10 to run flawlessly ... 9.10 wont start an xserver
[21:15] <v29a> virtualbox version is the current stable
[21:22] <ian_brasil> you converted an .img right
[21:22] <ian_brasil> vboxmanage convertdd ubuntu-9.04-beta-mid-lpia.img ubuntu-9.04-beta-mid-lpia.vdi
[21:22] <v29a> yes i did
[21:24] <v29a> i followed http://www.greenhughes.com/content/installing-ubuntu-mid-virtualbox ... worked for 8.10 but not for 9.10
[21:24] <ian_brasil> and then you installed to a hard drive
[21:25] <v29a> the image i used was http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mid/daily-live/current/
[21:25] <ian_brasil> sounds like you got a bust x
[21:26] <ian_brasil> why are you using current?
[21:26] <ian_brasil> why not get the 9.04 release?
[21:27] <v29a> ?
[21:27] <persia> Yeah.  Using that which will become 9.10 is subject to the "When it breaks, you get to keep the pieces" rule.
[21:27] <v29a> well i did just find dl links for 8.10 and 9.10 ;-)
[21:28] <persia> Right.  UNR 9.04 can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/
[21:31] <v29a> persia: i still cant seem to find links for the mid on that page ..
[21:33] <persia> Sorry.  I thought you were looking for UNR.  MID is somewhere else.
[21:34] <persia> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/release/
[21:35] <v29a> lol just found it too
[21:35] <v29a> thanks for your help
[21:35] <v29a> ill try it
[22:07] <v29a> does anyone know about ui changes to ubuntu mid?
[22:07] <persia> v29a, Which sort of UI changes?
[22:07] <v29a> doesnt look like they changed anything from 8.10 -> 9.04
[22:08] <v29a> persia: well changes that make it more look like the screens there http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile
[22:09] <persia> That's the interface the MID effort has been moving from, not towards.  At this point, that page is pointlessly out of date.
[22:09] <v29a> ?
[22:09] <v29a> where are they moving towards then?
[22:10] <persia> I'll probably get this updated more this weekend, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/MobileMidKarmicUseMer
[22:13] <v29a> ok, so i should go for the mer project then?
[22:16] <persia> v29a, Towards which goal?
[22:16] <v29a> well ... intended usage ;-) 
[22:17] <v29a> i want a distribution to run a car pc with a touchscreen
[22:17] <v29a> 7-10"
[22:20] <persia> OK.  Does Ubuntu MID 9.04 not work for you?
[22:20] <v29a> it does
[22:21] <v29a> oh sorry ... i meant it is running
[22:21] <v29a> but the interface doesnt really look ready to use yet ...
[22:21] <persia> Ah.  You liked the interfaces from that web page better?
[22:21] <v29a> jep :)
[22:22] <v29a> i hoped they were integrated in a more recent version
[22:23] <persia> No.  Those were flash demos.  The free flash players are only so-so.
[22:23] <persia> And a flash demo is only so powerful when it comes to being the default interface to an OS.
[22:25] <lool> ogra: How long does it take you to run --second-stage in qemu usually?
[22:25] <ogra> quite long
[22:25] <v29a> i dont get it yet ... so the version providing those screens does not really exist? or is it just too slow?
[22:25] <ogra> it sits at the configuring and unpacking stages andlessly, give it 10-15min
[22:25] <ogra> or even 20
[22:26] <lool> Oh great, thanks; I was wondering whether that was normal
[22:26] <persia> v29a, It never really existed.
[22:26] <ogra> the bad thing is that you dont get any output 
[22:26] <v29a> persia: i see ..
[22:27] <lool> ogra: What's odd is that I get no disk activity during this time; I suspect something is very slow on arm and not expected to be slow in debootstrap
[22:27] <lool> Perhaps some perl
[22:27] <ogra> yeah
[22:27] <ogra> how do you measure disk activity on an image ? :)
[22:27] <ogra> it might all happen in ram