| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| asac | hi | 09:10 |
|---|---|---|
| fta | yop | 10:14 |
| asac | fta: where was the announcement that linux should be ready in 6 month for chrome? | 10:30 |
| fta | asac, hm.. | 10:32 |
| fta | asac, can't find it | 10:45 |
| fta | asac, why do you need that? | 10:47 |
| asac | fta: for the browser spec | 10:51 |
| asac | ;) | 10:51 |
| asac | fta: e.g. the summary of the discussion we had in the general browser session | 10:51 |
| asac | fta: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Karmic/Browsers | 10:53 |
| fta | asac, http://techreport.com/discussions.x/16206 | 10:55 |
| asac | thx | 10:56 |
| asac | fta: any coments on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Karmic/Browsers now? | 11:44 |
| fta | it's not 4GB unpacked, it's 1.2G if you remove the svn stuff | 11:47 |
| asac | thats the new number, right? ;) | 11:47 |
| asac | like you said that bz2 is now 160M not 300 | 11:48 |
| fta | -rw-r--r-- 1 fta fta 196405039 2009-06-04 02:25 chromium-browser_3.0.184.0~svn20090604r17576.orig.tar.gz | 11:48 |
| fta | that's with ffmpeg-mt | 11:49 |
| fta | -rw-r--r-- 1 fta fta 733440000 2009-06-04 02:25 chromium-browser-3.0.184.0~svn20090604r17576-source.tar | 11:49 |
| fta | 733M, far from 4G | 11:50 |
| asac | good ;) | 11:51 |
| asac | fta: so what size is full svn checkout ;)? | 11:51 |
| asac | with du | 11:51 |
| fta | fta@cube:/data/bot/upstream $ du -sm chromium-browser.svn/ | 11:53 |
| fta | 3234 chromium-browser.svn/ | 11:53 |
| asac | good. updated | 11:54 |
| asac | fta: if you see any other issues with chromium, please add them. that list is probably what should be proposed to chromium devs | 12:00 |
| fta | asac, that's ok. | 12:02 |
| fta | asac, look at the 1st random quote: http://echelog.matzon.dk/stats/chromium.html | 12:03 |
| asac | fta: good. i will think where we can document the upstreamed bugs for third_party libs | 12:04 |
| asac | maybe in whiteboard | 12:04 |
| asac | or even in spec | 12:04 |
| fta | this is for 64bit: http://dev.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/64-bit-support | 12:05 |
| * asac lunch | 12:26 | |
| === ejat is now known as e-jat | ||
| asac | fta: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Specs/Karmic/Firefox35Transition | 13:50 |
| fta2 | asac, "drop firefox-dev package" i'm not sure about that one. currently, it's empty but should it be? | 14:06 |
| fta2 | "(keep trunk testsuite)" ? | 14:07 |
| fta2 | everything else looks fine | 14:07 |
| asac | am i here? | 14:20 |
| asac | @time | 14:20 |
| asac | !info xulrunner-1.9 | 14:20 |
| ubottu | xulrunner-1.9 (source: xulrunner-1.9): XUL + XPCOM application runner. In component main, is optional. Version 1.9.0.10+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1 (jaunty), package size 7371 kB, installed size 20380 kB | 14:20 |
| asac | hmm.. odd | 14:20 |
| asac | ok | 14:20 |
| asac | fta2: good question about firefox-dev .... lets check | 14:21 |
| asac | fta2: http://pastebin.com/f1049cfe1 | 14:22 |
| asac | those are the idls | 14:22 |
| asac | imo they should go into firefox-dev | 14:22 |
| asac | (and their headers of course) | 14:22 |
| fta2 | yes, that's what i meant. | 14:23 |
| asac | so its upstream not installing them on make install, right | 14:23 |
| asac | ? | 14:23 |
| fta2 | it means it's an upstream bug | 14:23 |
| fta2 | yes | 14:23 |
| asac | didnt we have a bug for that? | 14:23 |
| fta2 | it's empty since we split ff and xul | 14:23 |
| fta2 | i don't remember any bug # for that | 14:24 |
| asac | hmm. wasnt there a upstream bug about firefox sdk pieces or something | 14:24 |
| fta2 | is debian still shipping that -dev? | 14:24 |
| asac | i remember that benjamin said he doesnt want that somewhere | 14:25 |
| asac | no clue about debian ... but i wouldnt say they are not always a good example to follow ... especially on mozilla stuff | 14:25 |
| fta2 | mozilla 421168 | 14:25 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 421168 in Build Config "firefox using --with-libxul-sdk doesn't install .idl/.h on make install" [Normal,Resolved: wontfix] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421168 | 14:25 |
| fta2 | wontfix | 14:25 |
| asac | yeah | 14:30 |
| asac | i asked something and documented this bug next to the firefox-dev bullet point in the spec | 14:30 |
| fta2 | excellent | 14:31 |
| === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk | ||
| * asac checks some NM stuff ... bbl | 14:42 | |
| === rickspencer3-afk is now known as rickspencer3 | ||
| askand | Hi, I can not have firefox open for more than an hour before it crash | 15:20 |
| askand | What debugpackages should I install? | 15:21 |
| askand | The wikipage is outdated | 15:21 |
| gnomefreak | askand: the bug page for it is not outdated the packages are for firefox-3.0 | 15:21 |
| gnomefreak | and you should use apport to file the crashes | 15:22 |
| askand | I can not due to bug 314212 | 15:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 314212 in python-apt "Apport unable to report crash - urlopen error timed out" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/314212 | 15:22 |
| gnomefreak | askand: does it work if you manually try to use apport? my browser is slow atm due to updates | 15:23 |
| askand | gnomefreak: no I get the same message, however I can unpack the report but not sure what to do with it after that | 15:24 |
| gnomefreak | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs#Run%20Firefox%20in%20a%20Debugger is right | 15:24 |
| gnomefreak | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs#Obtain%20a%20backtrace%20from%20an%20apport%20crash%20report%20(using%20gdb) should help doing debug on crash report | 15:25 |
| askand | gnomefreak: xulrunner-1.9-dbgsym is not found in the repos | 15:25 |
| askand | Im using Jaunty | 15:25 |
| gnomefreak | askand: nor is anyother dbg-sym packages | 15:25 |
| gnomefreak | eh dbgsym | 15:25 |
| gnomefreak | deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com i left out some of it due to hardy but replace hardy with jaunty | 15:26 |
| gnomefreak | see the wiki under run firefox in a debugger mode | 15:27 |
| * gnomefreak ddbes on wiki while i am here | 15:27 | |
| gnomefreak | not sure if proposed has been introduced into ddebs yet | 15:29 |
| askand | it seems to work now at least after adding the repo | 15:29 |
| askand | will try to run gdb now | 15:29 |
| askand | last time it complained on no debugging symbols found | 15:29 |
| gnomefreak | askand: ok its loading. please try the dbgsym repos all of the 4 and let me know if proposed ddeb repos work please | 15:29 |
| gnomefreak | i dont think we have anything in propopsed at this time | 15:30 |
| askand | i added main and universe | 15:30 |
| askand | ..main and updates | 15:30 |
| gnomefreak | ill test it a bit later after updates are done. | 15:31 |
| askand | no I still got no deugging symbols found | 15:31 |
| * gnomefreak be back coffee and smoke | 15:31 | |
| asac | askand: so did you install all dbgsym packages named on the website? | 15:35 |
| askand | asac: yep, last time it didn't install xulrunner-dbg but it did now | 15:35 |
| asac | there might still be a few libs that dont have dbg packages, instaled, so as long as you see much less warnings about no debugging symbols stuff should be fine | 15:35 |
| asac | askand: is the crash reproducible without extensions? | 15:35 |
| askand | it is | 15:35 |
| asac | askand: ok. get the debug symbols. and dont forget to file a bug with the instructions on how to reproduce | 15:37 |
| asac | ;) | 15:37 |
| asac | if others can reproduce they can also get debug information | 15:37 |
| askand | asac: there is no way to reproduce really :( | 15:37 |
| askand | the crashes is, in all senses of the word , random | 15:38 |
| asac | do you get segfaults? | 15:39 |
| asac | or bus errors or aborts or something? | 15:39 |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| askand | no its segfaults | 15:41 |
| askand | I think at least | 15:41 |
| askand | will check | 15:41 |
| askand | is there any useful in the crashfile from apport? | 15:42 |
| asac | askand: yeah. so install all dbg packages, and run firefox -g | 15:42 |
| asac | to run it in the debugger | 15:42 |
| askand | oh | 15:42 |
| askand | I ran gdb /usr/lib/firefox-3*/firefox 2>&1 | tee /tmp/gdb-firefox.txt | 15:42 |
| asac | note that startup will be significantly smaller than without dbg, but using after startup should be more or less ok (on normal systems)( | 15:42 |
| asac | askand: use firefox -g i would say | 15:42 |
| asac | askand: if it works and its not on the debugging wiki page, please add it | 15:43 |
| askand | where is the logfile stored when runnin firefox -g? | 15:43 |
| asac | askand: you can run it with 2>&1 | tee ... | 15:45 |
| asac | to get a log | 15:45 |
| asac | you can also specify a log file, but i dont know atm ;) | 15:46 |
| askand | I get (no debugging symbols found) but that's ok perhaps | 15:46 |
| asac | askand: there might still be missing dbg packages, but if you have the most important ones it should at least give you a good snap | 15:47 |
| askand | good :) | 15:48 |
| gnomefreak | ok ddeb for -proposed works in jaunty | 16:00 |
| gnomefreak | askand: i sent you the diff yesterday since i wasnt here when you got back from lunch. let me know what you think i have a couple of little changes i have to make to it still(firegpg) | 16:23 |
| asac | gnomefreak: you mean asac? | 16:24 |
| gnomefreak | yes sorry | 16:24 |
| gnomefreak | :) autocomplete | 16:24 |
| asac | i saw the diff .... will check it out later | 16:25 |
| asac | thanks | 16:25 |
| gnomefreak | asac: thanks | 16:26 |
| gnomefreak | mailman needs a reject all option | 16:27 |
| asac | yeah ;) | 16:29 |
| asac | it could include those nice email things in the summaries | 16:29 |
| asac | that would be nifty | 16:29 |
| === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk | ||
| * asac running some errands | 16:33 | |
| gnomefreak | asac: any chance of getting enigmail0.96 in repos | 16:35 |
| gnomefreak | it fixes at least one bug | 16:35 |
| fta2 | jcastro, any success with chromium? | 16:56 |
| fta2 | jcastro, btw, i've pushed an update earlier today, can't find what you were looking for in it o_O | 16:57 |
| jcastro | I didn't see it either, maybe it's not hooked up? | 17:00 |
| fta2 | most probably | 17:01 |
| fta2 | the video tag is not ready either. i have the bits in place now in the packaging, so it will improve as upstream adds more stuff in. | 17:02 |
| fta2 | jcastro, i also provides hi-res icons now, incl a 256x256 icon. can you see it in gnome do? | 17:05 |
| jcastro | fta2: I still see the blurry icon | 17:07 |
| fta2 | hmm | 17:07 |
| fta2 | maybe you need to restart your session or something | 17:07 |
| jcastro | maybe | 17:08 |
| jcastro | I need a new kernel anyway, will try after lunch | 17:08 |
| fta2 | great, please let me know | 17:08 |
| fta2 | going out to meet some friends. cu | 17:10 |
| asac | back | 18:01 |
| gnomefreak | anyone need something from me that cant wait till atleast tomorrow? i have about 30 minutes before i have to get to meeting | 18:07 |
| asac | gnomefreak: all fine. enjoy the rest of the daya | 18:07 |
| gnomefreak | thanks | 18:16 |
| gnomefreak | i will try to be here friday and monday morning if not i will be gone until the 15th or 16th depending on how my eye heals | 18:17 |
| gnomefreak | duplicity should really compress all the volume diffs into one for easy import | 18:20 |
| gnomefreak | all but back-up.2009.18.05 | 18:23 |
| gnomefreak | back-up.2009.18.05.tar.gz | 18:24 |
| gnomefreak | is made from dup. here http://pastebin.mozilla.org/655272 not very helpful :( | 18:24 |
| gnomefreak | seems mercurial needs the python deps to be updated before it ill upgrade | 18:38 |
| gnomefreak | yep that is exactly it | 18:39 |
| gnomefreak | maybe not it uses << 2.7 but karmic is on 2.6* | 18:40 |
| asac | yes. hg needs support for newer python | 18:46 |
| asac | !info mercurial | 18:46 |
| ubottu | mercurial (source: mercurial): scalable distributed version control system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-2ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 48 kB, installed size 328 kB | 18:46 |
| asac | !info mercurial/karmic | 18:46 |
| ubottu | Package mercurialkarmic does not exist in jaunty | 18:46 |
| gnomefreak | i will have them update bot for karmic as an option | 18:47 |
| gnomefreak | atleast try anyway | 18:47 |
| gnomefreak | i sked :) | 18:49 |
| gnomefreak | Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4), python (<< 2.7), python (>= 2.5), python-support (>= 0.7.1), ucf (>= 2.0020), mercurial-common (= 1.1.2-2ubuntu1) | 18:49 |
| gnomefreak | that looks fine since we are <<2.7 and >=2.5 | 18:50 |
| gnomefreak | ah it looks like python-support | 18:50 |
| gnomefreak | no not that either | 18:51 |
| gnomefreak | ok updated my X bug and filed one on deja-dup | 18:52 |
| gnomefreak | now to back up | 18:52 |
| gnomefreak | it seems bot does already do karmic just not in here (not sure of other channels) | 18:54 |
| gnomefreak | !info merurial karmic | 18:54 |
| ubottu | Package merurial does not exist in karmic | 18:54 |
| gnomefreak | !info mercurial karmic | 18:54 |
| ubottu | mercurial (source: mercurial): scalable distributed version control system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-3 (karmic), package size 31 kB, installed size 228 kB | 18:54 |
| gnomefreak | ah it does | 18:54 |
| === rickspencer3-afk is now known as rickspencer3 | ||
| fta | stevel, http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/wp-content/gallery/00-single/mediaplayers.png | 19:23 |
| stevel | fta: close mashtape and the cpu & memory should go down | 19:42 |
| fta | it's not mine | 19:44 |
| === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk | ||
| === micahg1 is now known as micahg | ||
| fta | stevel, came from there: http://identi.ca/notice/4901494 | 20:17 |
| stevel | fta: ah. bummer, i'm not on identi.ca | 20:26 |
| fta | stevel, http://identi.ca/notice/4922266 | 20:27 |
| stevel | cool thanks :) | 20:27 |
| fta | stevel, when is your next released planed? i haven't updated sb in a long while, some users are becoming nervous for an update | 20:30 |
| fta | asac, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=12562 | 20:37 |
| asac | fta: was that fixed in intrepid or jaunty nss? | 20:46 |
| fta | well, those are ubuntu binaries produced by google so i assume it's hardy | 20:47 |
| fta | then our old debian-style nss | 20:48 |
| fta | asac, what happened to your gtk fixes? i want to prepare ia32-libs to ship the missing bits | 20:49 |
| stevel | fta: 1.2 should be out soon (we just pushed the first beta of it yesterday) - depending on the bug feedback we get.. could be around ~2 weeks | 21:15 |
| fta | ok | 21:22 |
| askand | asac: hi, regarding the firefoxcrashes earlier, it seems to be related to flash :/ | 21:50 |
| askand | asac: http://paste2.org/p/248550 | 21:51 |
| BUGabundo | guud evening | 21:52 |
| fta | You are about to do something potentially harmful. | 21:54 |
| fta | To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!' | 21:54 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 21:56 |
| fta | new coreutils | 21:56 |
| === rickspencer3-afk is now known as rickspencer3 | ||
| fta | jcastro, in the bm toolbar, right click an entry, then edit, here it is. still limited though | 22:53 |
| jcastro | oh I see | 22:54 |
| fta | also when you star an url, there's a dialog now | 22:56 |
| dtchen | fta: / asac: if you're seeking feedback, 3.0.11+build2+nobinonly WFM in hardy and karmic | 23:21 |
| fta | excellent, thanks | 23:22 |
| dtchen | odd. i haven't touched pulseaudio in karmic, and performance is horrid :/ | 23:26 |
| BUGabundo | humm | 23:26 |
| BUGabundo | horrid how? | 23:26 |
| BUGabundo | WFM (now) | 23:26 |
| BUGabundo | even gstream on totem seems fixed | 23:27 |
| dtchen | i have pa chewing cpu | 23:28 |
| BUGabundo | let me look | 23:31 |
| BUGabundo | 1 0.04s 0.05s 423.7M 13532K 0 0 0 0 4% pulseaudio | 23:31 |
| BUGabundo | 2-4% | 23:31 |
| BUGabundo | is that much? | 23:31 |
| dtchen | that's what it _should_ be | 23:36 |
| dtchen | i'm seeing 19-75% across multiple cores | 23:37 |
| BUGabundo | C2D here | 23:38 |
| BUGabundo | $ sudo atop 2 | grep pulse | 23:38 |
| BUGabundo | 4637 4m43s 6m16s 359.7M 13104K 1596K 164K N- - S 2% pulseaudio | 23:38 |
| BUGabundo | 4637 0.01s 0.02s 0K 0K 0K 0K -- - S 1% pulseaudio | 23:38 |
| BUGabundo | 4637 0.03s 0.02s 0K 0K 0K 0K -- - S 2% pulseaudio | 23:38 |
| BUGabundo | 4637 0.02s 0.02s 0K 0K 0K 0K -- - S 2% pulseaudio | 23:38 |
| BUGabundo | 4637 0.04s 0.04s 0K 0K 0K 0K -- - S 4% pulseaudio | 23:38 |
| fta | PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND | 23:40 |
| fta | 6254 fta 20 0 948m 263m 22m R 24 13.1 1024:54 firefox-3.6 | 23:40 |
| fta | 20650 fta 20 0 269m 29m 9960 S 7 1.4 84:26.88 rhythmbox | 23:40 |
| fta | 25622 fta 9 -11 157m 5904 4744 S 4 0.3 14:34.89 pulseaudio | 23:40 |
| fta | 2101 fta 20 0 66804 24m 12m S 2 1.2 0:03.89 chromium-browse | 23:40 |
| fta | ff is a pig :( | 23:41 |
| dtchen | commit 44ada1a147fa28ae15b83a031c48fc2b992cc3ef | 23:41 |
| dtchen | ALSA: Enable PCM hw_ptr_jiffies check only in xrun_debug mode / ALSA: Fix invalid jiffies check after pause | 23:41 |
| dtchen | Ubuntu 2.6.30-8.9-generic | 23:41 |
| BUGabundo | !uname -a | 23:42 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about uname -a | 23:42 |
| dtchen | (from /proc/version_signature) | 23:42 |
| BUGabundo | Linux blubug 2.6.30-7-generic #8-Ubuntu SMP Mon May 25 13:52:54 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 23:42 |
| dtchen | if you can reproduce the symptom in 2.6.30-8.9-generic, i know precisely where the bug is | 23:43 |
| dtchen | we missed a fall-through for the jiffies check | 23:43 |
| BUGabundo | humm did that got posted? | 23:47 |
| BUGabundo | 'cause exec of uname always crash my pidgin | 23:47 |
| dtchen | well, your uname was posted, yes | 23:48 |
| dtchen | you're not triggering the bug because the culprit git changeset is in 2.6.30-rc8, not -rc7 (which 2.6.30-7.8-generic is based on) | 23:49 |
| BUGabundo | yeah | 23:49 |
| BUGabundo | so I should expect probs on the next kernel updates | 23:49 |
| BUGabundo | hehe | 23:49 |
| dtchen | it's quite humourous, actually. that changeset is supposed to _fix_ high cpu usage. | 23:50 |
| BUGabundo | eheh you never let me have audio working akaysish for more then a week, can you ? | 23:50 |
| dtchen | err, i didn't sign off on that patch | 23:50 |
| BUGabundo | LOLOLOL | 23:50 |
| dtchen | in fact, i was quite hesitant, because it appears the symptoms are only fixed if CONFIG_PREEMPT is enabled | 23:51 |
| dtchen | and guess which kernel config option karmic disables? | 23:51 |
| BUGabundo | this is nice.. core utils removes mktemp and synaptic alerts me to it | 23:52 |
| dtchen | right, aptitude safe-upgrade ftw | 23:54 |
| BUGabundo | yep | 23:55 |
| BUGabundo | since KDE4.3 on karmic | 23:56 |
| BUGabundo | I began loving aptitude too | 23:56 |
| BUGabundo | but it wouldn't help me in this case | 23:56 |
| BUGabundo | removing mktemp is a big NO NO | 23:56 |
| fta | BUGabundo, looks safe: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/coreutils/7.4-1 | 23:57 |
| BUGabundo | checking | 23:58 |
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