[00:58] <Pricey> Wow, eternaljoy didn't last long.
[01:40] <Pici> ugh.
[02:02] <Pici> I get the feeling that I'm muted in #ubuntu
[02:04] <Seeker`> you mean zaccor?
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> @login
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> @btlogin
[02:42] <elky> stew, around?
[02:42] <stew> yeah
[02:43] <elky> stew, we need a staff to touch a channel for us. pici is dealing with the situation but is not currently GC. if i say do as he says, can you make things happen?
[02:44] <stew> that works well enough for me
[02:45] <stew> we can give you a summary for you to put a stamp on at the end
[02:45] <elky> ping me when you're ready for that. Pici please talk to stew :)
[02:46] <elky_work> ping this nick, i can respond faster if i dont have to minimise the vm :P
[02:48] <Pici> elky_work: k
[02:55] <stew> elky_work: the only things that happened was that I gave foundership of #ubuntu-us-tn to w4ett and removed all access for m-c from that channel.
[02:55] <nalioth> ah
[03:00] <elky_work> stew, that was the intention. yes. thanks.
[04:35] <genii> Interesting. !ops in -ca doesn't alert in here (although elky. hobbsee, madpilot and others are on the list)
[04:35] <genii> I guess the loco channels work differently
[04:54] <pleia2> genii: the loco channels ones go to #ubuntu-irc
[04:54] <genii> Ah, OK
[05:19] <genii> I'm off to bed.. if anyone in #k can keep spike_s and RProgrammer ontopic I'd appreciate it. I hinted with !ot to spike 2-3 times, thn gave him a pm about it but he still may wander again. Thx
[05:44] <Myrtti> huomenta
[06:51] <Myrtti> Flannel: I vote for removing him
[06:51] <Flannel> Myrtti: I'm talking to him
[06:51] <Myrtti> good
[06:51] <Flannel> I actually was hoping to catch Mud
[06:51] <Flannel> since, on lastlog for this guy, I noticed Mud as one too
[06:52] <Flannel> and he's been going afk since forever, and mouths off to random people when told not to
[06:52] <Flannel> but this morning got caght with an !uptime too
[06:52] <Flannel> That is, 15 hours ago
[06:52] <Myrtti> ok, my backlog doesn't go that far
[06:53] <Flannel> He'll (Mud) be back
[07:00] <Flannel> Eh.
[07:00] <Flannel> He (danorsk) is being difficult
[07:01] <Flannel> but, isn't in the channel anymore, so, I suppose that's finished
[07:17] <Myrtti> ubottu: tell ubuntu about pm
[07:28] <Myrtti> !ping
[07:30] <Flannel> she's broked!
[07:38] <topyli> i wonder if neconide on -ot is the same person who came there a few weeks back as well, describing life-threatening symptoms and getting medical advice
[07:38] <topyli> and of course dismissing all of it
[07:39] <topyli> maybe not, since this one seems to have stopped
[07:44] <Flannel> topyli: We've matured enough to have our own resident hypochondriacs?
[07:44] <topyli> yepyep
[08:08] <Myrtti> D-lined? srsly?
[08:09] <Myrtti> :-D
[08:09] <Flannel> It's a smiley face line!
[08:34] <Flannel> So many D-lines tonight
[08:34] <Flannel> and then they come back!
[08:36] <ikonia> everyone knows foo is bar
[08:37] <ikonia> ooops, screen messed up
[08:37] <ikonia> that was to Pici's old comment
[08:38] <jussi01> oh hai ikonia!
[08:38] <ikonia> hey hey hey
[08:48] <elky> i might go have a pub dinner tonight
[09:06] <Myrtti> whose brainfart has it been to call and MAKE a PPA to an official way of distributing bugfixes?
[09:06] <Myrtti> CONFESS!
[09:09]  * Myrtti points at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.4
[09:09] <ikonia> Myrtti: it's "FACT" - 
[09:09] <Myrtti> not that I care about kubuntu, but I can see how this is paving the road to hell for us
[09:10] <ikonia> it's how it is already 
[09:10] <Myrtti> ikonia: I was kinda hoping an official ubuntu release wouldn't stoop that low
[09:10] <Myrtti> bloody hell
[09:10] <ikonia> too late
[09:10] <Myrtti> so now the kubuntu team has decided to bypass the canonical, or what?
[09:11] <jpds> Myrtti: -> #kubuntu-devel
[09:11] <ikonia> nah, they are just making updates as test
[09:11] <Myrtti> jpds: I'm not *that* intrested
[09:11] <Myrtti> ikonia: -proposed ring a bell?
[09:11] <ikonia> how ironic 
[09:11] <Myrtti> :-X
[09:11] <ikonia> 9:07 < emonkey-t> Artemis_Fowl: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main
[09:11] <Myrtti> wohoo!
[09:11] <ikonia> just been mentioned 
[09:11]  * Myrtti goes away crying
[09:12] <jpds> No, it's a new *KDE* bug fix release of 4.2.3
[09:12] <jpds> Which was announced here: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.3
[09:12] <jpds> The packages for the newer 4.2.3 release were already in that PPA, now they've just uploaded the new bug fix release from KDE.
[09:12] <ikonia> I read it on the website, but as Myrtti shouldn't that be in the official ubuntu repo rather than a PPA  
[09:13] <jpds> ikonia: No.
[09:13] <ikonia> can you expand on that ?
[09:13] <jpds> ikonia: It's been that way for the Kubuntu team since PPAs came out.
[09:13] <ikonia> so nothing is fed back into the core repos (of that size)
[09:13] <ikonia> whats current kde 4 in the repos ?
[09:14] <Myrtti> so it's kubuntu team we can blame for spreading the "the official fixes are in the ppa's" craze... ok, nice to know who to blame ;-)
[09:14] <Myrtti> *chortle*
[09:14] <ikonia> Myrtti: nah, it's just as common in #ubuntu
[09:14] <ikonia> look at the pidgin PPA's that sort of thing
[09:14] <jpds> Myrtti: There are not official fixes.
[09:15] <jpds> They are fixes for the new upstream release packages which were already in the PPA.
[09:15] <ikonia> jpds: is there a reason they don't get fed back into main ?
[09:15] <Myrtti> jpds: http://identi.ca/notice/4899332
[09:15] <jpds> ikonia: Because they are not there?
[09:15] <Myrtti> it's official coz identica sez so
[09:16] <jpds> Myrtti: PICNIC.
[09:16] <Myrtti> this is how social media works, kids
[09:16] <ikonia> jpds: sorry , I mean why isn't the udpate to 4.2 put into the main ?
[09:16] <Myrtti> an idiot misinterprets something, and it spreads
[09:16] <jpds> ikonia: New features, not fixes. They should go to -backports but people are too lazy ;)
[09:17] <ikonia> jpds: ahhh ok, so that's the key
[09:17] <jpds> PPAs are fire and forget, lot easier.
[09:17] <Flannel> -backports implies they're in Karmic
[09:18] <Flannel> (although, I suppose in many/all cases, they are)
[09:25] <jussi01> gnome is really frustrating....
[09:25]  * Myrtti couldn't care less about gnome or kde
[09:26] <Myrtti> back to work
[09:26]  * Myrtti puts a pot of coffee and a pot of tea on the table
[09:26] <jussi01> trying to setup dual head, got it sorted except I cant figure out how to make the main screen the one on the lappy, not the external on.... *growl*
[09:28] <ikonia> ati ?
[09:29] <jussi01> nope, intel
[09:29] <Myrtti> jussi01: with randr?
[09:29] <ikonia> oooh, I think I've got the parameter for that
[09:29] <jussi01> Myrtti: yeah
[09:29] <Myrtti> I did that with grandr
[09:29] <jussi01> gnome screen res thing is bolocks
[09:29] <ikonia> gnome ! gnome, you are Mr KDE
[09:29] <jussi01> ikonia: its for a friend
[09:30] <Myrtti> ikonia: there is not proper Qt tools
[09:30] <ikonia> snigge
[09:30] <Myrtti> as far as I can see with aptitude search
[09:30] <ikonia> snigger
[09:30] <jussi01> Myrtti: for what?
[09:30] <Myrtti> jussi01: frontends for randr
[09:30] <Myrtti> might be that I just can't search
[09:30] <jussi01> !info krandrtray
[09:30] <jussi01> meh
[09:30] <jussi01> I forget the name
[09:30] <jussi01> might be in another package
[09:31] <Myrtti> !search randr
[09:31] <Myrtti> bah, can't be arsed
[09:31] <Myrtti> anyway
[09:31] <Myrtti> REALLY going to work nao
[09:31] <Flannel> nothing for QT if randr is in the name
[09:32] <jussi01> !find krandrtray
[09:32] <jussi01> yeah, its in kde-workspace-bin
[09:32] <jussi01> :D
[09:32] <jussi01> so installed by default
[09:32] <Flannel> krandr has icons and l8n stuff, but...
[09:32]  * Myrtti points at the word "proper"
[09:33] <Myrtti> :-P
[09:33] <Myrtti> USE XFCE AND GTK, INFIDELS
[09:33] <jussi01> Myrtti: shutup, what would you know
[09:33]  * Myrtti hides
[09:33] <jussi01> :D
[09:33] <jussi01> flamewar in -ops come and join in everyone :P
[09:34] <Myrtti> *Burp*
[10:56] <jussi01> !alternate
[10:57] <jussi01> nah...
[10:58] <Myrtti> that suggestion doesn't make any sense, does it?
[11:00] <ikonia> did you expect it to ?
[11:01] <Myrtti> not really
[11:12] <christel> elkybabe (or anyone else) where do people request cloaks through you? 
[11:12] <christel> just on irc or via launchpad or something? 
[11:13] <Myrtti> christel: in #ubuntu-irc
[11:13] <christel> ah fab!
[11:14] <Myrtti> christel: they need to provide their launchpad page
[11:14] <christel> cool! i'm sending czajkowski there, be gentle with her! :D
[11:14] <Myrtti> :-)
[11:14] <christel> Myrtti: where are you these days btw? uk or back in finland? 
[11:14]  * ikonia senses new blood
[11:15] <Myrtti> christel: ETA Stansted 10d 12h 34min
[11:15] <christel> how long are you over for? :)
[11:15] <Myrtti> mid-July
[11:16] <christel> wooo
[11:16] <ikonia> christel: I thought you where .de based ?
[11:16] <christel> i still think you should move here!
[11:17] <christel> ikonia: no, i've only been to germany for holidays hehe
[11:17] <ikonia> how wrong am I 
[11:19] <christel> very!
[11:19] <christel> hehe
[11:19] <ikonia> don't know why I thought you where German
[11:19] <christel> must have been the lederhosen!
[11:20] <Gary> or the whi^^ oops wrong chan
[11:20]  * ikonia ears wakes
[11:39]  * popey notes christel lives scary close to him
[11:40] <christel> i've told you this several times!
[11:40] <christel> you should come over and we'll have a lederhosen party!
[11:40]  * popey slaps his thighs
[11:40] <christel> and you can call me helga \o/
[11:40] <christel> popey: actually, i think we're bbqing next sunday (14th) you should bring wife and poplets and join us
[11:41] <Myrtti> poplets :-D
[11:41] <popey> :)
[11:41] <Myrtti> *grin*
[11:41] <christel> hehe
[11:42] <popey> christel: coming to the surrey lug meet on 13th?
[11:42] <christel> im not unfortunately, i'm working at the reading regatta that day
[11:42] <popey> bum
[11:45] <christel> yes :(
[11:51]  * popey is giving a talk :)
[11:52] <christel> ooh
[11:52] <christel> i wish i was going
[11:53] <Myrtti> I wish we're going to Littlehampton while I'm on UK this time
[11:53] <popey> you're back in the UK?
[11:53] <Myrtti> Bodyshop has Friends and Family on this Saturday, my bf has tickets and my shopping list :-D
[11:54] <popey> heh
[11:54] <Myrtti> popey: not until 10d 11h 56min :-P
[11:55] <Myrtti> !bot > ibnyadam
[11:55]  * Myrtti waits for the pm to hit
[12:34] <Tm_T> Sl5avka is pm-spamming?
[12:36] <Tm_T> aye, whois that
[12:36] <Tm_T> Sl5avka- to be exact
[12:37] <Myrtti> free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org hrm
[12:37] <Tm_T> and its "realname"
[12:37] <Myrtti> Tm_T: you should know what to do...
[12:38] <Tm_T> you mean calling staffers? or?
[12:38] <Myrtti> would be wise?
[12:38] <Tm_T> seems so now, when I'm not alone thinking so, yes
[12:39] <Tm_T> !staff | Sl5avka- is spamming bot, got pm spam
[12:58]  * Pici sighs
[12:58] <Myrtti> ITALIANS! bah ;-)
[13:02] <Pici> Myrtti: aww... I had mine all lined up... although your message was better.
[13:03] <Myrtti> Pici: for *once* I managed to be first
[13:03] <Pici> Also.. has it been this crazy/offtopic for a while, or just since I got here?
[13:03] <Myrtti> since you got here
[13:03] <Pici> wonderful
[13:03] <Myrtti> they were fairly ontopic earlier
[13:03] <Tm_T> where?
[13:04] <Pici> #u
[13:04] <Tm_T> ah
[13:43] <Tm_T> !unr
[13:43] <Tm_T> !netbook
[13:43] <Tm_T> interesting
[13:56] <Pici> !ping
[14:11] <bazhang> darknight1 is asustek
[14:11] <Myrtti> is he? sure? 100% sure?
[14:12] <elky> bazhang, anything other than ident linking them?
[14:13] <elky> similar ip ranges accepted, but i couldnt bridge the gap previously as the nick strays from his MO
[14:13] <bazhang> 	asus-tek!n=kavita@114.69.251.175  from the bt
[14:14] <elky> exactly. he's also been 217......
[14:14] <elky> you're now trying to match 114 to 202.
[14:14] <elky> bazhang, exclude the ident. it's a name. there's a billion indians, some will share names.
[14:19]  * elky has /msgs
[14:19] <Myrtti> ooooo
[14:19] <Pici> aaaahhh
[14:20] <elky> to the kin of 'who are you?'
[14:20] <elky> Myrtti, i want you to talk in -ot.
[14:21] <Myrtti> awwwww
 well in few days you won't even come to know even that as we will be in the UK 
[14:22] <elky> wtf?
[14:22] <Myrtti> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[14:22] <Myrtti> no!
[14:22] <Tm_T> onbelievable
 and then further later on in Scandinavia and in the last if I get my gf in Canada 
[14:23] <elky> sounds alot like him
[14:23] <Tm_T> indeed
[14:23] <bazhang> its him
[14:24]  * Myrtti shudders
 Are you on FB with Melissa Draper
[14:24] <Myrtti> ask him who he is there ;-)
[14:24] <Myrtti> *snork*
[14:25] <Pici> elky: your name is in your /whois btw
[14:25] <Pici> but yes, this is still odd.
[14:25] <bazhang> same stalker-y behaviour QED
[14:25] <elky> Pici, i know that. i also have a connection invite from umakant there, which is safely ignored
[14:25] <Myrtti> I've got him downright blocked
[14:26] <Myrtti> so if someone befriends him, nothing seeps to him
 okey ya I know you I had added you 
[14:26] <elky> confession
[14:26] <elky> goodbye creep
 don't ban me okey I would come with american university's ip s 
[14:29] <bazhang> humm okey
[14:29] <Myrtti> he makes me sick
[14:29] <bazhang> good thing he was spotted early on.
[14:30] <elky> bazhang, he was in the other day, but i couldnt link him and i was the only op around
[14:31] <bazhang> elky, and before that as well.
[14:32] <bazhang> I generally avoid comment on -ot, but he and sp0rtily are exceptions
[14:33] <elky> -ot need a reason for this, and a demonstration that creepies will not be tolereated
[14:34] <elky> which seems completely lost on aprilhare
[14:34] <elky> this creeps me out since i know how close he is to me.
[14:35] <elky> in approximation, but still, not far enough.
[14:35] <Myrtti> do I want to understand what ikanobori just said?
[14:35] <elky> i=admin@202.179.79.111
[14:36] <elky> he still talks absolute gibberish when upset
[14:37] <elky> Myrtti, april and ikano egg each other on.
[14:41] <elky> i=admin@202.179.80.140
[14:41] <elky> !staff | please help
[14:42] <elky> he keeps PMing me to call me 'bitch'
[14:42] <bazhang> odcstar
[14:42] <elky> yes
[14:42] <christel> klined
[14:42] <Myrtti> christel: thank you
[14:42] <bazhang> nice
[14:42] <christel> np
[14:42] <jussi01> christel: super. thanks
[14:42] <christel> np
[14:42] <Myrtti> uh, I was starting to feel so bad that tears weren't far - still aren't. God I hate how he acts.
[14:43] <elky> christel, fail... odcstar is still PMing me.
[14:43] <elky> apparently now i'm racist
[14:43] <christel> oh, who did i kline? 
[14:43] <christel> i went for the ip you pasted :o
[14:43] <christel> jesus
[14:43] <bazhang> in #kubuntu now
[14:43] <Myrtti> he's got the whole damn ip range in his hands
[14:43] <christel> is odcstar attempting to impersonate you? 
[14:43] <christel> i just spotted the real name
[14:44] <christel> 14:43 [lindbohm] ::  ircname  : Melissa Draper
[14:44] <Myrtti> oh christ
[14:44] <Myrtti> :-×
[14:44] <jussi01> unless he just went around it..
[14:44] <nickspoon> D:
[14:44] <bazhang> again in #k
[14:44] <elky> christel, make it stop hurting.
[14:45] <christel> ok, i klined 202.179.79.*
[14:45] <christel> it caught a few more
[14:45] <christel> 14:45 [lindbohm] !wolfe.freenode.net *** Notice -- wolfe.freenode.net confirms kill of DarkNight1[n=kavita@202.179.79.50]
[14:45] <christel> 14:45 [lindbohm] !wolfe.freenode.net *** Notice -- wolfe.freenode.net confirms kill of DarkNight2[n=kavita@202.179.79.202]
[14:45] <christel> 14:45 [lindbohm] !simmons.freenode.net *** Notice -- simmons.freenode.net confirms kill of odcstar[i=admin@202.179.79.15]
[14:45] <christel> 14:45 [lindbohm] !simmons.freenode.net *** Notice -- simmons.freenode.net confirms kill of Tarzan^[i=admin@202.179.79.111]
[14:45] <christel> any of those nicks familiar? 
[14:45] <jussi01> yes
[14:45] <christel> i assume they may be all him/her/it
[14:45] <bazhang> kavita yep
[14:45] <jussi01> the first 3 at least
[14:46] <christel> *nod*
[14:46] <elky> i'll let you know when he abuses me next.
[14:46] <bazhang> admin is the odcstar impersonation one
[14:46] <bazhang> back again
[14:46] <elky> christel, you're missing the 202.179.80* one
[14:48] <christel> gone also
[14:48]  * elky whimpers with Myrtti in the corner.
[14:55] <christel> has this guy been around long? 
[14:55] <christel> or did he only recently show up? 
[14:55] <bazhang> quite some time
[14:56] <Pici> He hasn't been around in a while though, or at least to my knowledge
[14:56] <bazhang> many, many nick changes and ban-evasions
[14:56] <Myrtti> he's been tiptoeing on being creepy for a long time, then it just went mad
[14:56] <christel> anyone know if he's ever had a nick thats been registered? 
[14:56] <bazhang> he was always creepy in my book
[14:56] <bazhang> icebuntu?
[14:57] <elky> christel, asus-tek, hynix, icebuntu and more that we dont know
[14:57] <elky> christel, he changes his nick more often than some ##politics weirdos change undergarments
[14:57] <christel> lovely
[14:57] <christel> http://eumakant.blogspot.com/ there's his blog, complete with a picture
[14:58] <christel> make that, complete with Many Pictures and little else
[14:59] <elky> christel, he's on facebook too
[14:59] <christel> oh brilliant
[14:59] <christel> do you guys know the actual name of his university? as the subnets he's used take me back to the ISP ather than his uni
[15:00] <elky> christel, not a clue
[15:01] <christel> jesus, we have three friends in common on facebook
[15:01] <christel> that makes me sad
[15:01] <elky> christel, some people add anyone
[15:02] <Myrtti> I had him too, with limited visibility - then after he tried to call me on skype, I blocked him
[15:03] <elky> thing is, his invite to me is 'what's your nick on irc'
[15:03] <christel> am i right assuming he once appeared to be just a "normal guy" in the community? or was he creepy from day 1? 
[15:04] <Myrtti> he started off quite normal...
[15:04] <Myrtti> then when he started to ask very detailed information
[15:04] <bazhang> I always thought he was shifty
[15:04] <Myrtti> like where do you study, how much do you get paid, where do you live...
[15:05] <bazhang> so many detailed questions, always directed towards female -ot users
[15:05] <Myrtti> probably others too
[15:05] <bazhang> several quit, never to return
[15:05] <elky> bazhang, snux isnt quite female
[15:05] <Myrtti> neither is topyli
[15:06] <Myrtti> though the hair can fool ya ;-)
[15:08] <elky> christel, i'm sadder than you. 8 common friends
[15:10] <Pici> christel: From my logs, here are the unique ident/ip combinations that it looks like asus-tek/umakant/kavita have used: http://paste.ubuntu.com/188266/
[15:11] <Myrtti> *shudder*
[15:11] <elky> Pici, nicks are more important than ips, since those are clearly very dynamic
[15:12] <christel> Pici: thank you!
[15:14] <Pici> Well, the nicks for each of those are one of the folllowing: ASUS-te1, ASUS-tek, DarkNight1, DarkNight2, hynix, hynix1, Icebuntu, IceStar or IceStar1.
[15:15] <elky> Pici, has he useed odcstar or tarzan^ previously?
[15:16] <Pici> elky: let me check against my other channel logs, those were just from -ot
[15:22] <elky> ok, nothing for half an hour, i'm heading bedways.
[15:27] <christel> elky: can i bcc you on an email? if so, can i have an email address? :)
[15:30] <christel> and you Myrtti 
[15:32] <Myrtti> christel: myrtti (a) ubuntu.com
[15:33] <Pici> Does anyone know anything about this survey that jaj23 is posting in #u?
[15:33] <christel> ok, you should have mail! its not much, it probably wont have any effect but with some luck the cybercrime unit in mumbai may have some advice
[15:34] <Myrtti> Pici: I have no idea
[15:37] <christel> god, i should have proofread that before sending!
[15:42] <Gary> christel: it still reads okay
[15:43] <christel> <3
[16:00] <bazhang> night all
[16:00] <christel> nn bazhang 
[16:43] <Myrtti> after the next upcoming twitter/jaiku update, I'll transform those accounts into private ones.
[16:44] <Myrtti> I've also removed identi.ca from my settings in ping.fm
[16:45] <Myrtti> identi.ca will not get any of my updates unless I go dent on the site myself which may happen in work/ubuntu related cases.
[16:45] <Myrtti> just FYI, if you've been keen on stalking me there or in twitter or anything.
[16:45] <Myrtti> also as a FYI to you people out there reading the logs.
[16:47]  * pleia2 hugs Myrtti 
[16:49] <Tm_T> Myrtti: hmh, that is a big shame
[16:50] <Myrtti> Tm_T: you may thank Umakant and all the weird potheads.'
[16:51] <Myrtti> and also the fact that identi.ca has no way of protecting updates from being read by, sorry, ARSEHOLE IDIOT STALKERS.
[16:51] <Myrtti> so I'll pull on my asbestos suit and recline on venues that have some sort of privacy settings.
[16:52] <Tm_T> indeed
[17:06] <christel> :/
[17:07] <Tm_T> I have collected few "followers" here in irc but nothing troublesome yet
[17:07] <Myrtti> I don't mind being followed in any of the venues by people I've talked with in IRC that I feel I can trust
[17:08] <Myrtti> identi.ca is troublesome because there's no way of knowing who is subscribed to the RSS feed of my dents
[17:08] <Tm_T> Myrtti: same, but sometimes even in public irc-channels it can be pushed too far
[17:08] <Myrtti> yup
[17:14] <christel> it makes me really angry
[17:15] <Myrtti> ♥ http://identi.ca/notice/4915892
[17:16] <Myrtti> anti asshat :-)
[17:53] <Myrtti> hah. One of the mildly disturbing trolls just parted -ot
[17:53] <Myrtti> a bit disturbing is that now he has .fi domain...
[17:53] <Myrtti> oh well
[18:04] <Jack_Sparrow> @login
[18:04] <Jack_Sparrow> @btlogin
[18:11] <tonyyarusso> Myrtti: I take it something happened to you recently?
[18:15] <Myrtti> tonyyarusso: backlog of this channel may, or may not explain things.
[18:15] <tonyyarusso> Myrtti: I've been pondering the utility of a +i IRC channel defined roughly as "the people I particularly like talking too / some of what -ot was like 'back in the day'", unaffiliated with Ubuntu namespace of course.  Would you consider something like that useful?
[18:17] <Myrtti> tonyyarusso: I'm not particularly fond of any irc channels right now, I'll have to think of that
[18:18] <tonyyarusso> Myrtti: ponder and let me know your thoughts whenever you have them
[18:34]  * Seeker` wonders where in the UK christel lives
[18:37] <nalioth> in her house, Seeker` 
[18:37] <nalioth> duh!   :P
[18:38] <Seeker`> :P
[18:47] <christel> hehe
[18:47] <christel> are you coming to visit Seeker` ? 
[18:48] <Seeker`> christel: depends on how close you are :)
[18:48] <gnomefreak> can we have the bot to use !info... karmic and `info for karmic in +1?
[18:52] <tonyyarusso> It's not loaded to do that everywhere yet?
[18:52] <tonyyarusso> !info firefox karmic
[18:52] <tonyyarusso> huh
[18:52] <tonyyarusso> slow bot
[18:53] <gnomefreak> its not in #ubuntu-mozillateam
[18:54] <Seeker`> eugh, got him in PM now
[18:54] <Seeker`> -20:53:49- Sensiz`oLmaz: wech
[18:54] <gnomefreak> nevermind it was typo
[18:54] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: ^^
[19:03] <jussi01> @now
[19:14] <jussi01> ubottu: join #kubuntu
[19:15] <jussi01> client faill...
[19:15] <jussi01> Im restarting the bot, Just FYI
[19:24] <jussi01> !test
[19:26] <tsimpson> erm, that may be me...
[19:27] <tsimpson> !test
[19:27] <tsimpson> there :)
[19:28] <tsimpson> !no lts is <reply> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is $curLTS
[19:29] <tsimpson> !lts
[19:30] <Myrtti> FAIL
[19:30] <tsimpson> I just need to set the config ;)
[19:31] <tsimpson> @config list plugins.Encyclopedia
[19:32] <tsimpson> @config plugins.Encyclopedia.curLTS Hardy
[19:32] <tsimpson> @config plugins.Encyclopedia.curStable Jaunty
[19:32] <tsimpson> @config plugins.Encyclopedia.curDevel Karmic
[19:32] <tsimpson> !lts
[19:33] <tonyyarusso> Oooh, that's nifty
[19:34] <tsimpson> jussi01's idea
[19:42] <Myrtti> [20:46] < snuxoll> elky: he says hi to me almost daily
[19:46] <tsimpson> !no lts is <reply> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !$curLTS ($curLTSLong $curLTSNum)
[19:46] <tsimpson> !lts
[19:47] <tsimpson> now *that's* nifty
[19:47] <tsimpson> when I fix the conf again
[19:48] <Tm_T> wrong LTS there now (;)
[19:48] <tsimpson> @reload Encyclopedia
[19:48] <tsimpson> !lts
[19:51] <tsimpson> so you can now use $curLTS, $curLTSLong, $curLTSNum, $curStable, $curStableLong, $curStableNum, $curDevel, $curDevelLong and $curDevelNum
[19:51] <Tm_T> nice!
[19:51] <tsimpson> and they will all be updated in any factoids with a simple @config change :)
[19:59] <maco> um..the mound of spammy in #ubuntu that just happened...they quit for excess flood, but since its botnetty goodness, do you guys ban them too?
[20:00] <Myrtti> maco: it's probably k-lined by now...
[20:00] <maco> ohok
[20:00] <Myrtti> if not...
[20:00] <Myrtti> !staff | could you check whats going on with 88.239.19.87
[20:01] <tomaw> Myrtti: spambots, gone already
[20:01] <Myrtti> thankies :-)
[20:01]  * tonyyarusso wonders why that line hilighted him, reads over and over
[20:02] <tonyyarusso> oh, I still had a hilight on Vorian for when I had a question like two weeks ago - whoops
[20:02] <Myrtti> haha
[20:03] <tomaw> stalker!
[20:03] <vorian> O
[20:03] <tonyyarusso> For a moment there I was like "Waitaminute, since when am I staff?!?"
[20:03] <vorian> tonyyarusso: what fer?
[20:03] <tonyyarusso> vorian: I'm not sure I even remember..I think it involved release parties or some such
[20:03] <vorian> ahh
[20:03] <tonyyarusso> something LoCo-y
[20:11] <Myrtti> ok, doing a smallish test on #ubuntu
[20:12] <Myrtti> Flannel: gotcha
[20:12] <Seeker`> nice
[20:12] <jussi01> ikonia: pm
[20:13] <ikonia> you got it
[20:32] <Seeker`> @bansearch squeak
[20:43] <jussi01> Seeker`: why?
[20:44] <Seeker`> jussi01: look at the host of all the people that just got k-lined
[20:44] <Seeker`> and the time before
[20:45] <Seeker`> jussi01: or is it the wrong thing to do?
[20:45] <jussi01> no, I was just curious if you had a reason
[20:46] <Seeker`> is it a good enough reason?
[20:46] <Myrtti> Seeker`: yes.
[20:54] <Myrtti> !staff | FAARRT 211.117.122.232 might be a spambot, onjoin stuff on ubuntu?
[20:54] <ikonia> Myrtti: don't gentoo/debian/django/perl
[20:55] <ikonia> done sorry
[20:55] <Myrtti> ikonia: I know, checked /who
[20:55] <ikonia> ah
[20:55] <ikonia> there he goes
[20:55] <vorian> gone
[20:57] <ikonia> hail vorian 
[20:57]  * Myrtti curtsies
[20:58] <Myrtti> I seem to be on a roll with the k-lines today (in a way) :-/
[20:58] <vorian> school's out
[21:23] <Jack_Sparrow> @login
[21:23] <Jack_Sparrow> @btlogin
[21:25] <Seeker`> Jack_Sparrow: you do realise your @btlogin sessions last for 30 day or so at least?
[21:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Seeker` No had not realized that.
[21:26] <Jack_Sparrow> good to know
[21:48] <guntbert> Hi, I propose to add one sentence to the factoid !paste so that it reads:  pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) (and for images you can use http://imageshack.us/ or http://tinypic.com/)
[21:49] <Seeker`> !paste
[21:50] <Seeker`> hmm
[21:51] <guntbert> just as a reminder for those of us who need that only once a month or so :-)
[21:51] <tsimpson> probably better to use "See also !imagebin"
[21:52] <guntbert> tsimpson: much better, I didn't know about that
[21:52] <tsimpson> that's another issue, took me a few mins to find it
[21:53] <tsimpson> I knew we had a factoid on it, but couldn't remember what it was
[21:53] <guntbert> but there *is* one persons who knows them all, isn't there? :-))
[21:54] <tsimpson> no
[21:54] <tsimpson> except ubottu :)
[21:54] <tsimpson> it should also be linked with !screenshot
[21:56] <guntbert> tsimpson: I second that too, and as I cannot help in the actual doings, I'm off again, thank you all for your support for the community
[21:56] <tsimpson> !no screenshot is <reply> Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. See also !imagebin
[21:56] <tsimpson> !screenshots is <alias> screenshots
[21:56] <tsimpson> !screenshots is <alias> screenshot
[21:59] <tsimpson> !no pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic
[21:59] <tsimpson> !paste
[22:22] <jussi01> someone confirm jono's email addy for me? 
[22:22] <jussi01> please...
[22:22] <Myrtti> jono@ubuntu.com?
[22:22] <Myrtti> jono@jonobacon.org?
[22:22] <vorian> jussi01@ubuntu.com
[22:22] <jussi01> Myrtti: thats what I thought, but is that first one definately correct?
[22:23] <jussi01> vorian: why?
[22:23] <Myrtti> jussi01: http://www.jonobacon.org/contact-me/ DOH
[22:23] <Myrtti> Use the Google, Luke
[22:23] <jussi01> shut up, or Ill definately hurt you. 
[22:23] <Myrtti> jussi01: also, it's his launchpad id @ ubuntu com
[22:23] <vorian> jussi01: just a joke, sorry :)
[22:24] <Myrtti> or should be
[22:24] <LjL> err, Jack_Sparrow did you intent to remove the first ban?
[22:25] <Myrtti> jussi01: fine
[22:25] <Jack_Sparrow> LjL I tried to set /cs u Latias  and saw three bans 
[22:26] <LjL> i have no idea what /cs u is
[22:26] <LjL> but you removed the mibbit redirect...
[22:26] <Jack_Sparrow> and he was still talking,  I assumed I set it wrong
[22:26] <Jack_Sparrow> LjL /cs u is the xchat script
[22:26] <Jack_Sparrow> for unmute
[22:27] <LjL> Jack_Sparrow: you cannot really mute mibbit users, because they have an exempt set on them
[22:27] <LjL> by the floodbots (otherwise, they wouldn't be able to join at all)
[22:27] <LjL> if you mute them by nickname, then the bots will kickban them
[22:27] <LjL> if you mute them by something else, it will have no effect
[22:27] <Jack_Sparrow> mibbit users usually have the mib prefix
[22:27] <LjL> no not really
[22:28] <LjL> only if they don't bother to change the proposed default nickname
[22:28] <Jack_Sparrow> So we need to check each user for mibbit first?
[22:28] <LjL> no... just mute people by nickname
[22:28] <LjL> i had never seen ops muting people not by nickname before
[22:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Ok,  /cs m Latias should have been a mute by nick
[22:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Handled
[23:00] <Seeker`> Jack_Sparrow: you are still +o
[23:01] <Jack_Sparrow> ty, still in pm
[23:06] <Pricey> unban
[23:06] <Pricey> And I assume it will remove all bans matching that nick.
[23:07] <Pricey> bah, was scrolled up...
[23:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Howdy
[23:07] <Pricey> Hey
[23:07] <Seeker`> @bansearch lenin_cat
[23:07] <Pricey> but yes, Jack_Sparrow i believe that /cs u whois's the user, then checks all bans in the banlist and removes anything that matches them
[23:07] <Seeker`> @login
[23:07] <Seeker`> @bansearch lenin_cat
[23:07] <Pricey> Jack_Sparrow: that includes bans, quiets, forwards, anything
[23:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Pricey So what would be a better choice
[23:09] <Pricey> Checking first.
[23:09] <Pricey> I believe there's a cs alias for that also
[23:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Ah that would be handy
[23:10] <Seeker`> can someone confirm whether lenin_cat should be in -ot?
[23:10] <Pricey> will just try and find it
[23:10] <Pricey> Seeker`: that looks like a ban to me
[23:10] <Seeker`> me too
[23:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Pricey will do
[23:10] <Pricey> Seeker`: is he behaving?
[23:11] <Seeker`> not saying a huge amount
[23:11] <Seeker`> just wondering how he can talk with a ban set
[23:11] <Seeker`> or can you talk with a ban set, just not join?
[23:12] <Pricey> Jack_Sparrow: http://www.kaarsemaker.net/downloads/code/chanserv.py has an explanation of all options at hte top
[23:12] <Pricey> Jack_Sparrow: /cs bans nick, will check for any bans matching them
[23:13] <Pricey> Seeker`: was the ban above removed?
[23:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Pricey Added that to my cheat sheet notes. ty
[23:14] <Seeker`> eugh, not a ban
[23:14] <Seeker`> just a mark
[23:14] <Seeker`> bot really needs to distinguish between the two
[23:22] <tsimpson> Seeker`: it can't without changing the underlying database schema
[23:24] <Seeker`> :/
[23:25] <Seeker`> how does the BT distinguish them?
[23:26] <tsimpson> what @mark does is add a ban, but with a full hostmask <nick>!<user>@<host>
[23:26] <tsimpson> but /mode +b <nick>!<user>@<host> is also a valid banmask
[23:32] <Seeker`> I mean the first comment in the ban is **MARK** if its a mark
[23:34] <tsimpson> that's a comment, stored in another table
[23:34] <tsimpson> to check that would require double the SQL queries per ban
[23:34] <tsimpson> and would not stop someone adding a commend with **MARK** ;)
[23:38] <arand> hello, nick bratline is spamming in #ubuntu
[23:39] <Pricey> arand: he seems to have gone now
[23:39] <arand> Pricey: indeed, off freenode