/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/06/05/#kubuntu-devel.txt

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Riddellrgreening: you pung?10:34
jussi01pung *g*10:37
Riddellponged?10:39
jussi01I dunno, but pung sounds very funny :D10:40
* seele yawns10:43
Riddellit's an early morning seele!10:45
agateauwake up seele, KDE needs you!10:47
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QuintasanHi11:02
seeleRiddell: i'm in sweden, so it's actually quite late ;)11:14
seeleagateau: i promise after this week i'll be more available. season of usability kicked off and so hpefully my inbox will settle down11:14
agateauseele: no pb, was just kidding :)11:15
seele:)11:15
Riddellseele: are you listening to Abba while sitting on Ikea furniture?11:16
seeleRiddell: no abba, but everything is indeed ikea11:17
Nightroseseele: have the students been announced yet?11:18
seeleNightrose: no, i am still waiting for 4 of the mentors to choose. unfortunately the amaork mentor is one of the ones who havent picked one yet :P11:18
Nightroseseele: heh ok11:19
Quintasanargh12:24
QuintasanI think the playlist view manager really sucks, what was bad in implementing columns there?12:25
QuintasanNightrose: hiho12:30
QuintasanARGH, anyone managed to set playlist in amarok 2.1 to look like this: http://amarok.kde.org/files/playlistoldschool.png?12:32
Riddellwhat a waste of space that layout uses12:41
QuintasanRiddell: I don't like the new one :P12:43
JontheEchidnaNew KPackageKit release12:57
Riddellooh12:58
Riddellshtylman_: polite poke towards filling in https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-karmic-ubiquity12:58
Riddellany volunteers to do some spec approval?13:02
Riddellpeople who weren't at UDS preferably13:02
* Riddell eyes up JontheEchidna and seele 13:06
JontheEchidnasure13:06
JontheEchidnajust throw a list at me :P13:07
RiddellJontheEchidna: you should get e-mail, please review the specs and set them to approved if you don't have any queries with them13:10
JontheEchidnagot 'em13:11
MamarokRiddell: got my Team pack today :) thanks for the help!13:17
Mamarokunfortunately this is also the first time I had to pay VAT :(13:17
JontheEchidnaSince KWin doesn't have a video record effect anymore we could remove the libcaptury-dev build-dep and drop captury and capseo to universe13:35
RiddellJontheEchidna: go for it13:38
JontheEchidnaalso, can anyone confirm that the reason that we're so over on the CD is that we're pulling in kdewallpapers and kdebase-workspace-wallpapers?13:40
JontheEchidnaplasma-wallpapers-addons is what would be bringing that in13:41
JontheEchidnawe might want to revise the plasma stuff we bring in, for example the themes moved to a package in kdeartwork so we weren't bringing those in in jaunty13:42
RiddellJontheEchidna: so we are, good spotting13:42
JontheEchidnaand now bringing in plasma-addons wholesale gives us 80 MB of wallpaper13:42
Riddellwe definately want to get rid of excess wallpapers13:42
JontheEchidnathe weather wallpaper plugin in wallpapers-addons does need wallpapers from both kdewallpapers and kdebase-workspace-wallpapers, but not all of them13:49
vorianmornin13:49
JontheEchidnaha13:49
vorian:P13:49
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vorianare the build machines still fried13:52
vorian?13:52
Riddellvorian: yes13:52
Riddellfix in progress13:52
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vorianalrighty13:53
Riddell"buildds on manual while coreutils is fixed"13:53
vorianoh, i see the in the topic now13:54
Riddellvorian: fancy approving some specs in the mean time? :)13:54
voriansure thing13:54
vorianRiddell: do you have the links?13:55
Riddellvorian: will arrive in your e-mail13:56
voriangot it, thanks :)13:57
alterooHallo Has anyone heard any issues with the koffice 2.0 repo (backports) not providing the right size so the packages will not be downloaded?14:37
jussi01Right, now I know skype is closed source, but is there any way that we can change the location of the pop ups?14:37
Riddellalteroo: I've not heard of that14:40
alterooSHould I provide a log of what I'm seeing?14:40
alteroohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/189023/14:42
vorianalteroo: try form the main archive (http://archive.ubuntu.com)14:45
alterooAfaik they are the same but ok14:46
vorianthey will be the same, but you could be having trouble grabbing from your mirror14:46
alteroonope same error14:48
alteroovorian: No ideas?15:08
Riddellrgreening: I agree that the default plasma layout has gone nuts15:41
yuriyoops never did finish that spec15:43
alterootomsdale: Skype?16:32
tomsdaleyes16:33
flacostehi, since I upgraded to kde 4.2.4, URLs opens in konqueror again by default17:54
flacosteinstead of the configured firefox17:54
flacosteany idea what is going?17:54
Tm_Tflacoste: have you re-checked your settings?17:59
Tm_Tand switched back and forth just to see if it affects at all18:00
flacosteTm_T: well, yes, i'm using 'Open in application based on content-type' and text/html still has Firefox at the top of the list18:00
flacostei didn't try switching things around, i will18:00
smarterflacoste: system settings --> default applications (not sure of the name in English) --> web browser --> put firefox there18:12
flacostesmarter: yeah, but I prefer the 'choose based on content-type'18:12
flacosteand that was working previously18:13
smarterno idea then18:13
smartertry that maybe: kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental18:13
flacostewhat is that command?18:15
smarterrebuilds the database where KDE caches desktop files and other stuff18:16
flacosteok, what is run when it says 'Rebuilding system database...'18:16
smartershouldn't do any harm, even if some warnings for some desktop files appear18:16
flacosteright, didn't change anything18:16
flacostei'm now using konq to modify the text/html order18:17
flacostejust to see if it has some effects18:17
smarterok, sorry I couldn't help you18:17
flacosteok, that didn't change anything18:18
flacostebut putting firefox as the application for http works18:19
flacosteso i'll use that18:19
alterookbuildsyscocoa I think18:24
jjesseJontheEchidna:with the weather wallapper all i ever get is a blue background, it never changes18:49
JontheEchidnawhich weather service are you using?18:49
JontheEchidnaand does the weather plasma widget work?18:50
alteroojjesse: Maybe your weather forecast is just depressing?18:51
jjessealteroo: i guess it is18:52
jjesseJontheEchidna: noaa for grand rapids mi18:52
jjesseshould i be using the LCD weather sation, Weather Forecast or Simple Weather Forecast?18:54
jjessesimple weather forecast i am currently using but that uses yahoo weather18:54
jjesseweather forecast and lcd weather give me correct information as well18:54
JontheEchidnanoaa doesn't work with the wallpaper18:55
jjessehrmm ok18:55
JontheEchidnathe BBC has grand rapids18:56
JontheEchidnait's nice and sunny in grand rapids18:56
jjesseyes it is18:56
jjesse71 degrees18:56
jjessenow i have the blue background with dots, i think the image is called air18:57
JontheEchidnaits cloudy here :(18:57
* rgreening is going bonkers... converting gtk code to qt is not fun18:57
Mamarokrgreening: talk to markey, he has been doing that for some time for living :(18:58
jjesseok i changed it to grand rapids michigan and not grand rapids michigan kent county19:00
jjesseand it is working thanks for the help JontheEchidna19:00
JontheEchidna:)19:00
JontheEchidnaIn 4.3 its less fragile19:00
JontheEchidnanoaa still doesn't work since the dataengine doesn't return icon names19:01
JontheEchidnaand I don't feel like making separate cases for the 300 text condition strings it returns19:01
jjessewow i don't blame you19:02
JontheEchidna20 icon names is much nicer19:03
jjessehow many other people have you had to help on the don't use NOAA problem?19:03
JontheEchidnathis is also the reason why the KDE weather widget doesn't have icons19:03
JontheEchidnanone yet19:03
rgreeningMamarok: I may need to talk to him at some pint :)19:05
rgreeningpoint even19:06
JontheEchidnaover a pint, perhaps?19:06
vorianYUS!!!19:06
rgreeningya19:07
voriannew soprano did the trick wrt -runtime19:07
macoyou guys, the kde crash report thingy (please tell me a better name than that exists?) says (after i install kdelibs5-dbg) that the crash report may be useful. i'm guessing it needs more -dbg packages, but i dont know which to grab for plasma-workspace crashes. ideas?19:16
JontheEchidnakdebase-workspace-dbg19:17
macothanks19:17
JontheEchidnathe user-visible name is the "KDE Crash Handler" and the "real" name is drkonqi19:17
JontheEchidnanp19:17
macooh thats what you guys keep talking about!19:18
alteroo*sighs*19:21
alterooWill PrntScrn Ever be attached to ksnapshot by default?19:22
macodrkonqi > apport. apport doesnt let you do this "go find -dbg packages, then hit reload, and we'll try again" thing...doesnt even tell you "this backtrace is useless"19:22
JontheEchidnathat's because launchpad will retrace the apport report19:23
JontheEchidnathough not with an astonishingly high success rate :/19:23
macoyeah well now it says its useful19:25
macoso thank you19:25
JontheEchidnaI personally disable apport and use drkonqi19:25
JontheEchidnayou're welcome19:25
macothough :( drkonqi is going mad on the "please login to bugs.kde.org" screen19:26
macoone keystroke per 5 seconds19:26
rgreeningRiddell: ping19:28
Riddell10:34 < Riddell> rgreening: you pung?19:29
rgreening:)19:29
rgreeningpong19:29
* JontheEchidna ducks from the ping pong balls19:30
rgreeningSo, Riddell, Im working on the usb-creator... and it uses a KFileDialog19:30
rgreeningOf course the app runs as root...19:30
JontheEchidnawasn't nixternal doing some usb-creator stuff?19:31
JontheEchidnayou guys collabing?19:31
rgreeningunder kdesudo. Is there a proper way to make it behave more... Riddell? Like when I click home it goes to root home and not user home...19:31
Riddellrgreening: not really, if it's running as root then /root is the home19:31
JontheEchidnasoftware-properties-kde suffers from this too19:31
JontheEchidnapolicykit would be the proper solution, I suppose19:31
rgreeningok, just wondering if there was any magic.19:31
rgreeningpolicykit would be nice... I think evand wants that too.. but later....19:32
macoum....anyone else read "make it behave more....Riddell?" as making it behave more *like* jonathan?19:33
JontheEchidnayeah19:33
alterooYeah I was trying to picture it doing some Riddell type stuff and the bugs that might be filed cause of that19:40
Mamarokrgreening: I don't think he wants to talk about that, bad memories, but a pint is a good idea :)19:50
DreadKnightheya, what was that command to update to karmic from jaunty?19:50
Riddelld19:50
alterooAsking that question invalidates you running Karmic :)19:50
alteroobut -d if yo uwant to know19:50
DreadKnighti am running karmic..19:50
DreadKnightsudo distr-upgrade -d or something?19:51
alteroodo-release-upgrade -d19:51
DreadKnightthanks :)19:51
tsimpsonyou can do it from update-notifier-kde (if you wanted)19:52
alterooreally? How do you tell it to jump to devel repos?19:53
tsimpsonuse -d :)19:54
tsimpson-d for "Offer to upgrade to the latest devel release, if possible", -p for "Offer to upgrade using latest proposed version of the release upgrader, if possible", -u for "Offer to upgrade to the latest release, if possible"19:55
tsimpsonupdate-notifier-kde --help19:55
_Groo_hi/2 all19:58
nixternalJontheEchidna: I am not working on it now because there are like 3 people working on it20:14
JontheEchidnasounds like communication issues20:15
_Groo_hey JontheEchidna20:31
_Groo_JontheEchidna: any news on beta 2?20:31
JontheEchidnaits simmering nicely20:31
JontheEchidnaWe will want upgrade testers (4.2 -> 4.3 and 4.3b1 -> 4.3b2) in the coming days20:32
* _Groo_ raises hand for upgrade testing20:33
_Groo_JontheEchidna: do you know is kdebinding will be it this version?20:34
JontheEchidnanot quite, vorian's working on it as we speak20:34
JontheEchidnaif he can get libboost to cooperate, then perhaps. But we don't know yet20:35
_Groo_JontheEchidna: you had to backport a lot didnt you? lke pyqt4 snapshot , qscintila and the like?20:37
_Groo_well talk more this weekend.. unfortunatelly i have to go now.. seeya guys20:38
* JontheEchidna hasn't really done any backporting at all20:39
JontheEchidnaoh, a new PyQt20:39
JontheEchidnavorian: ^^ We may want that20:39
vorianyus20:39
JontheEchidnapython 3 and Qt 4.5.1 support20:40
vorianright now I just want binding to flippin build20:41
JontheEchidnaheh20:41
vorianit's bigger than jeOS20:43
alterooJontheEchidna: libkdepim4 and kde-icons-oxygen currently conflict on the metting.png20:48
JontheEchidnawe're fixing that one this round I believe20:48
lex79JontheEchidna: dou you believe? :P20:51
alteroo\o/ only issue I had installing Kde 4.320:51
lex79It is fixed !20:51
lex79:P20:51
alteroowell not the only one but the only one that switching to apt-get -f install didn't fix20:52
JontheEchidnalex79: last time I tried to fix it, it didn't work20:52
JontheEchidnahopefully its down for good this time20:53
lex79yeah, I hope20:53
vorianI am happy to report bindings is over 50% built20:59
JontheEchidnahttp://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/06/building-brand-together.html21:00
vorian80% \o/21:02
JontheEchidnadamn, you have a fast machine if it built 30% in 2 minutes21:03
JontheEchidna...unless it was just "somewhere over 50%" two minutes ago21:03
* JontheEchidna needs to think before typing21:03
vorian98%21:04
JontheEchidnaok, you have a fast machine21:05
alteroo:-D21:09
ryanakcargreening: Can you send me the mockup you made for the website with the logo and the bar, if you still have it, please?22:00
rgreeningryanakca: sure. It's on my other lappy. I'll have to send it later...22:02
ryanakcargreening: Thanks22:02
dtchenrgreening: do you have a spec or writeup for testing GSt integration w/ Phonon?22:02
dtchenrather, testing the GSt backend for Phonon22:03
rgreeningdtchen: nope. was hoping you could provide some direction22:03
rgreeningI'm a test monkey...22:03
dtchenok, if you can start the spec, i'm happy to look at it22:03
dtchenwill be next week at the earliest, need to finish moving this weekend22:04
rgreeninggive me a set of things to test and I'll do it :)22:04
rgreeningok, touch bases next week. Im knee deep in usb-creator porting to qt22:04
* rgreening hates gtk22:04
vorianhow'd ya get roped into that one?22:05
dtchenvoluntold22:05
dtchenbeer was involved22:05
voriani'd hope so22:05
dtcheni think some hip-swinging action22:05
dtchensee youtube!22:05
vorianlife's fantastic if rgreening is plasitc22:06
rgreeninglol22:07
* rgreening is glad it was only beer... could have gotten a lot worse with heavier liquids22:07
JontheEchidna"I will port GNOME to Qt"22:10
JontheEchidna...using the QBasic bindings22:10
JontheEchidnaI dub that "Ballmer peak fail"22:10
alterooBallmer with a Widow's peak22:15
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JontheEchidnaI think Kubuntu might have the largest jonathan/contributors ratio23:02
seelelol23:04
rgreeningwho's to best pythonista here now :)23:59
rgreeningI got a small prob23:59

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