=== mcasadevall is now known as NCommander [10:34] rgreening: you pung? [10:37] pung *g* [10:39] ponged? [10:40] I dunno, but pung sounds very funny :D [10:43] * seele yawns [10:45] it's an early morning seele! [10:47] wake up seele, KDE needs you! === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [11:02] Hi [11:14] Riddell: i'm in sweden, so it's actually quite late ;) [11:14] agateau: i promise after this week i'll be more available. season of usability kicked off and so hpefully my inbox will settle down [11:15] seele: no pb, was just kidding :) [11:15] :) [11:16] seele: are you listening to Abba while sitting on Ikea furniture? [11:17] Riddell: no abba, but everything is indeed ikea [11:18] seele: have the students been announced yet? [11:18] Nightrose: no, i am still waiting for 4 of the mentors to choose. unfortunately the amaork mentor is one of the ones who havent picked one yet :P [11:19] seele: heh ok [12:24] argh [12:25] I think the playlist view manager really sucks, what was bad in implementing columns there? [12:30] Nightrose: hiho [12:32] ARGH, anyone managed to set playlist in amarok 2.1 to look like this: http://amarok.kde.org/files/playlistoldschool.png? [12:41] what a waste of space that layout uses [12:43] Riddell: I don't like the new one :P [12:57] New KPackageKit release [12:58] ooh [12:58] shtylman_: polite poke towards filling in https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-karmic-ubiquity [13:02] any volunteers to do some spec approval? [13:02] people who weren't at UDS preferably [13:06] * Riddell eyes up JontheEchidna and seele [13:06] sure [13:07] just throw a list at me :P [13:10] JontheEchidna: you should get e-mail, please review the specs and set them to approved if you don't have any queries with them [13:11] got 'em [13:17] Riddell: got my Team pack today :) thanks for the help! [13:17] unfortunately this is also the first time I had to pay VAT :( [13:35] Since KWin doesn't have a video record effect anymore we could remove the libcaptury-dev build-dep and drop captury and capseo to universe [13:38] JontheEchidna: go for it [13:40] also, can anyone confirm that the reason that we're so over on the CD is that we're pulling in kdewallpapers and kdebase-workspace-wallpapers? [13:41] plasma-wallpapers-addons is what would be bringing that in [13:42] we might want to revise the plasma stuff we bring in, for example the themes moved to a package in kdeartwork so we weren't bringing those in in jaunty [13:42] JontheEchidna: so we are, good spotting [13:42] and now bringing in plasma-addons wholesale gives us 80 MB of wallpaper [13:42] we definately want to get rid of excess wallpapers [13:49] the weather wallpaper plugin in wallpapers-addons does need wallpapers from both kdewallpapers and kdebase-workspace-wallpapers, but not all of them [13:49] mornin [13:49] ha [13:49] :P === agateau_ is now known as agateau [13:52] are the build machines still fried [13:52] ? [13:52] vorian: yes [13:52] fix in progress === k4v is now known as m4v [13:53] alrighty [13:53] "buildds on manual while coreutils is fixed" [13:54] oh, i see the in the topic now [13:54] vorian: fancy approving some specs in the mean time? :) [13:54] sure thing [13:55] Riddell: do you have the links? [13:56] vorian: will arrive in your e-mail [13:57] got it, thanks :) [14:37] Hallo Has anyone heard any issues with the koffice 2.0 repo (backports) not providing the right size so the packages will not be downloaded? [14:37] Right, now I know skype is closed source, but is there any way that we can change the location of the pop ups? [14:40] alteroo: I've not heard of that [14:40] SHould I provide a log of what I'm seeing? [14:42] http://paste.ubuntu.com/189023/ [14:45] alteroo: try form the main archive (http://archive.ubuntu.com) [14:46] Afaik they are the same but ok [14:46] they will be the same, but you could be having trouble grabbing from your mirror [14:48] nope same error [15:08] vorian: No ideas? [15:41] rgreening: I agree that the default plasma layout has gone nuts [15:43] oops never did finish that spec [16:32] tomsdale: Skype? [16:33] yes [17:54] hi, since I upgraded to kde 4.2.4, URLs opens in konqueror again by default [17:54] instead of the configured firefox [17:54] any idea what is going? [17:59] flacoste: have you re-checked your settings? [18:00] and switched back and forth just to see if it affects at all [18:00] Tm_T: well, yes, i'm using 'Open in application based on content-type' and text/html still has Firefox at the top of the list [18:00] i didn't try switching things around, i will [18:12] flacoste: system settings --> default applications (not sure of the name in English) --> web browser --> put firefox there [18:12] smarter: yeah, but I prefer the 'choose based on content-type' [18:13] and that was working previously [18:13] no idea then [18:13] try that maybe: kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental [18:15] what is that command? [18:16] rebuilds the database where KDE caches desktop files and other stuff [18:16] ok, what is run when it says 'Rebuilding system database...' [18:16] shouldn't do any harm, even if some warnings for some desktop files appear [18:16] right, didn't change anything [18:17] i'm now using konq to modify the text/html order [18:17] just to see if it has some effects [18:17] ok, sorry I couldn't help you [18:18] ok, that didn't change anything [18:19] but putting firefox as the application for http works [18:19] so i'll use that [18:24] kbuildsyscocoa I think [18:49] JontheEchidna:with the weather wallapper all i ever get is a blue background, it never changes [18:49] which weather service are you using? [18:50] and does the weather plasma widget work? [18:51] jjesse: Maybe your weather forecast is just depressing? [18:52] alteroo: i guess it is [18:52] JontheEchidna: noaa for grand rapids mi [18:54] should i be using the LCD weather sation, Weather Forecast or Simple Weather Forecast? [18:54] simple weather forecast i am currently using but that uses yahoo weather [18:54] weather forecast and lcd weather give me correct information as well [18:55] noaa doesn't work with the wallpaper [18:55] hrmm ok [18:56] the BBC has grand rapids [18:56] it's nice and sunny in grand rapids [18:56] yes it is [18:56] 71 degrees [18:57] now i have the blue background with dots, i think the image is called air [18:57] its cloudy here :( [18:57] * rgreening is going bonkers... converting gtk code to qt is not fun [18:58] rgreening: talk to markey, he has been doing that for some time for living :( [19:00] ok i changed it to grand rapids michigan and not grand rapids michigan kent county [19:00] and it is working thanks for the help JontheEchidna [19:00] :) [19:00] In 4.3 its less fragile [19:01] noaa still doesn't work since the dataengine doesn't return icon names [19:01] and I don't feel like making separate cases for the 300 text condition strings it returns [19:02] wow i don't blame you [19:03] 20 icon names is much nicer [19:03] how many other people have you had to help on the don't use NOAA problem? [19:03] this is also the reason why the KDE weather widget doesn't have icons [19:03] none yet [19:05] Mamarok: I may need to talk to him at some pint :) [19:06] point even [19:06] over a pint, perhaps? [19:06] YUS!!! [19:07] ya [19:07] new soprano did the trick wrt -runtime [19:16] you guys, the kde crash report thingy (please tell me a better name than that exists?) says (after i install kdelibs5-dbg) that the crash report may be useful. i'm guessing it needs more -dbg packages, but i dont know which to grab for plasma-workspace crashes. ideas? [19:17] kdebase-workspace-dbg [19:17] thanks [19:17] the user-visible name is the "KDE Crash Handler" and the "real" name is drkonqi [19:17] np [19:18] oh thats what you guys keep talking about! [19:21] *sighs* [19:22] Will PrntScrn Ever be attached to ksnapshot by default? [19:22] drkonqi > apport. apport doesnt let you do this "go find -dbg packages, then hit reload, and we'll try again" thing...doesnt even tell you "this backtrace is useless" [19:23] that's because launchpad will retrace the apport report [19:23] though not with an astonishingly high success rate :/ [19:25] yeah well now it says its useful [19:25] so thank you [19:25] I personally disable apport and use drkonqi [19:25] you're welcome [19:26] though :( drkonqi is going mad on the "please login to bugs.kde.org" screen [19:26] one keystroke per 5 seconds [19:28] Riddell: ping [19:29] 10:34 < Riddell> rgreening: you pung? [19:29] :) [19:29] pong [19:30] * JontheEchidna ducks from the ping pong balls [19:30] So, Riddell, Im working on the usb-creator... and it uses a KFileDialog [19:30] Of course the app runs as root... [19:31] wasn't nixternal doing some usb-creator stuff? [19:31] you guys collabing? [19:31] under kdesudo. Is there a proper way to make it behave more... Riddell? Like when I click home it goes to root home and not user home... [19:31] rgreening: not really, if it's running as root then /root is the home [19:31] software-properties-kde suffers from this too [19:31] policykit would be the proper solution, I suppose [19:31] ok, just wondering if there was any magic. [19:32] policykit would be nice... I think evand wants that too.. but later.... [19:33] um....anyone else read "make it behave more....Riddell?" as making it behave more *like* jonathan? [19:33] yeah [19:40] Yeah I was trying to picture it doing some Riddell type stuff and the bugs that might be filed cause of that [19:50] rgreening: I don't think he wants to talk about that, bad memories, but a pint is a good idea :) [19:50] heya, what was that command to update to karmic from jaunty? [19:50] d [19:50] Asking that question invalidates you running Karmic :) [19:50] but -d if yo uwant to know [19:50] i am running karmic.. [19:51] sudo distr-upgrade -d or something? [19:51] do-release-upgrade -d [19:51] thanks :) [19:52] you can do it from update-notifier-kde (if you wanted) [19:53] really? How do you tell it to jump to devel repos? [19:54] use -d :) [19:55] -d for "Offer to upgrade to the latest devel release, if possible", -p for "Offer to upgrade using latest proposed version of the release upgrader, if possible", -u for "Offer to upgrade to the latest release, if possible" [19:55] update-notifier-kde --help [19:58] <_Groo_> hi/2 all [20:14] JontheEchidna: I am not working on it now because there are like 3 people working on it [20:15] sounds like communication issues [20:31] <_Groo_> hey JontheEchidna [20:31] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: any news on beta 2? [20:31] its simmering nicely [20:32] We will want upgrade testers (4.2 -> 4.3 and 4.3b1 -> 4.3b2) in the coming days [20:33] * _Groo_ raises hand for upgrade testing [20:34] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: do you know is kdebinding will be it this version? [20:34] not quite, vorian's working on it as we speak [20:35] if he can get libboost to cooperate, then perhaps. But we don't know yet [20:37] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: you had to backport a lot didnt you? lke pyqt4 snapshot , qscintila and the like? [20:38] <_Groo_> well talk more this weekend.. unfortunatelly i have to go now.. seeya guys [20:39] * JontheEchidna hasn't really done any backporting at all [20:39] oh, a new PyQt [20:39] vorian: ^^ We may want that [20:39] yus [20:40] python 3 and Qt 4.5.1 support [20:41] right now I just want binding to flippin build [20:41] heh [20:43] it's bigger than jeOS [20:48] JontheEchidna: libkdepim4 and kde-icons-oxygen currently conflict on the metting.png [20:48] we're fixing that one this round I believe [20:51] JontheEchidna: dou you believe? :P [20:51] \o/ only issue I had installing Kde 4.3 [20:51] It is fixed ! [20:51] :P [20:52] well not the only one but the only one that switching to apt-get -f install didn't fix [20:52] lex79: last time I tried to fix it, it didn't work [20:53] hopefully its down for good this time [20:53] yeah, I hope [20:59] I am happy to report bindings is over 50% built [21:00] http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/06/building-brand-together.html [21:02] 80% \o/ [21:03] damn, you have a fast machine if it built 30% in 2 minutes [21:03] ...unless it was just "somewhere over 50%" two minutes ago [21:03] * JontheEchidna needs to think before typing [21:04] 98% [21:05] ok, you have a fast machine [21:09] :-D [22:00] rgreening: Can you send me the mockup you made for the website with the logo and the bar, if you still have it, please? [22:02] ryanakca: sure. It's on my other lappy. I'll have to send it later... [22:02] rgreening: Thanks [22:02] rgreening: do you have a spec or writeup for testing GSt integration w/ Phonon? [22:03] rather, testing the GSt backend for Phonon [22:03] dtchen: nope. was hoping you could provide some direction [22:03] I'm a test monkey... [22:03] ok, if you can start the spec, i'm happy to look at it [22:04] will be next week at the earliest, need to finish moving this weekend [22:04] give me a set of things to test and I'll do it :) [22:04] ok, touch bases next week. Im knee deep in usb-creator porting to qt [22:04] * rgreening hates gtk [22:05] how'd ya get roped into that one? [22:05] voluntold [22:05] beer was involved [22:05] i'd hope so [22:05] i think some hip-swinging action [22:05] see youtube! [22:06] life's fantastic if rgreening is plasitc [22:07] lol [22:07] * rgreening is glad it was only beer... could have gotten a lot worse with heavier liquids [22:10] "I will port GNOME to Qt" [22:10] ...using the QBasic bindings [22:10] I dub that "Ballmer peak fail" [22:15] Ballmer with a Widow's peak === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [23:02] I think Kubuntu might have the largest jonathan/contributors ratio [23:04] lol [23:59] who's to best pythonista here now :) [23:59] I got a small prob