[00:06] <harjot> it still says set pspdev
[00:06] <harjot> which means it wants u to pacifecally add it to the certain login script
[00:08] <harjot> where is the kubuntu login script???
[00:09] <ign0ramus> harjot, what did you name your script?
[00:10] <harjot> startup.sh
[00:10] <ign0ramus> harjot, did you make it executable?
[00:10] <harjot> yup
[00:10] <harjot> w8 just a sec
[00:12] <harjot> thanks it worked just had to logout and in again
[00:12] <ign0ramus> harjot, i knew it would :)
[00:12] <ign0ramus> harjot, and the word is 'specifically'.  specifically.
[00:16] <LoreCaster> here's a question... if i were to buy a print-server device... a device that allows a USB printer to be attached to a network, making it a network printer... could i then just attach my linux computer to that print-server device without drivers?
[00:17] <tsimpson> usually you'll need the driver for the printer still, the print server will just forward requests to the printer
[00:18] <LoreCaster> another question... could I use a windows XP computer to run all of my printer devices, and share out the printer on THAT computer on my network... i've got a junker around her somewhere... could my linux box run that printer then? (no drivers exist -at all- for my cannon onlinux)
[00:18] <tsimpson> as long as you get the server running cups
[00:19] <tsimpson> most printers will work with the default "postscript" driver too
[00:19] <tsimpson> !print | LoreCaster, have a read of this
[00:24] <harjot> oh i was typing too quick to spell
[00:26] <Daskreech> Does anyone know how I can boost the sound on my computer? I have all the dilas all the way up and I can barely hear anything
[00:26] <Daskreech> dials
[00:30] <ign0ramus> Daskreech, i had a similar issue on Hardy, that was somewhat improved by downloading the latest alsa drivers, but I'm not even sure that works anymore :/
[00:31] <Daskreech> how much better?
[00:31] <ign0ramus> Daskreech, from "whisper" to "library talking"
[00:31] <ign0ramus> Daskreech, i use scientific empirical measurements only ;)
[00:31] <Daskreech> Ok I'm about library talking now wouldn't mind a Folk concert upgrade
[00:32] <Daskreech> THough a polka concert will be acceptable
[00:32] <jussi01> Daskreech: turn the amp on? :D
[00:32] <ign0ramus> Daskreech, haha!  to this day, the sound is considerably better when i boot into windows on this lappy (Intel HD sound)
[00:32] <Daskreech> I may have to buy one if this keeps up I can't work without music
[00:33] <Daskreech> Yeah it is
[00:33] <Daskreech> But then I have to go and download drivers from the Manufacturere everytime I reinstall windows
[00:33] <Daskreech> Which is an ungodly number every 1/4 year
[00:34] <ign0ramus> Daskreech, that is a pain, but a computer without good sound is only 1/2 a computer (imho, anyway)
[00:34] <Daskreech> Preaching to the silent chior over here
[00:34] <ign0ramus> Daskreech, desktop or laptop?
[00:34] <Daskreech> Desktop
[00:34] <ign0ramus> Daskreech, what sound card?
[00:34] <Daskreech> my computer just died and someone loaned me one
[00:35] <Daskreech> some AC97 VIA chipset
[00:35] <ign0ramus> Daskreech, hmmm... widely supported...
[00:35] <Daskreech> But quietly ignored
[00:36] <ign0ramus> that is the problem with a kernel that is a jack of all trades
[00:36] <Daskreech> Don't they do regression testing?
[00:36] <ign0ramus> and vendors that hate OSS
[00:36] <ign0ramus> Daskreech, if you had Intel Integrated Graphics, you would swear they didn't.
[00:38] <ign0ramus> Daskreech, i assume you ran alsamixer or equivalent to check all levels, yes?
[00:38] <Daskreech> Or ignoring that can't Ubuntu stop using the latest kernel and opt for one that works?
[00:39] <Daskreech> kmix but in the past kmix has been a direct interface to alsamixer for me
[00:39] <ign0ramus> Daskreech, well, that's the thing... with the advent of PulseAudio, I'm not even sure how sound really works in Jaunty.
[00:40] <ign0ramus> Daskreech, it took me forever, but I finally had a good config using Gutsy/Hardy, and I skipped Intrepid altogether
[00:40] <Daskreech> Kubuntu doesn;t use pulse
[00:41] <jussi01> Daskreech: but it is installed by default on jaunty
[00:41] <Daskreech> Can you run alsa mixer and tell me the DB offset for master at 100%
[00:41] <jussi01> I d say first point of call to remove it
[00:42] <Daskreech> Not installed
[00:43] <Daskreech> Kde doesn't use it so neither does  Kubuntu
[00:43] <ign0ramus> Daskreech, jussi01: what exactly do i need PA for at all then?
[00:44] <Daskreech> Near as I heard it someone asked that exact question and couldn't get an answer which is why Kubuntu doesn't ship with it. CD space is too precious for that
[00:44] <ign0ramus> Daskreech, i'm on a fresh (dvd) install, and I most certainly have PulseAudio...
[00:45] <Daskreech> I'm on a CD Install with no Gnome products and I don't
[00:46] <jussi01> see the release notes Daskreech
[00:46]  * jussi01 is now headde to bed
[00:46] <ign0ramus> Daskreech, as it was installed by default, i assumed it had taken over much of the piping/mixing that ALSA does, and so didn't mess with it.  But the more I hear about it, the less it seems like it serves much of a purpose...
[00:46] <Daskreech> Thouh if it had an Equalizer that I could push up the Db ...
[00:46] <Daskreech> jussi01: What sound card do you have?
[00:55] <Solidus_> damn, installing new widgets still fails?
[01:20] <Zafer233> hello everyone
[01:34] <flakeparadigm> I'm working in kde3 on jaunty trying to get my laptops screen brightness adjustment to work. (gateway laptop) Is there a way I can change how the power manager changes the brightness?
[01:40] <ArkoldThos> flakeparadigm, probably at the kcontrol :o not sure
[01:41] <ArkoldThos> i dont have a laptop so i do not move to that things :o
[01:41] <flakeparadigm> let me see
[01:46] <jpedroza> I have an issue where I can connect to wireless (802.11a,b,g,n,etc) connections with the NetworkManager Plasmoid, but I can not connect to my Verizon Broadband. If I remove the plasmoid and reinstall knetworkmanager, I can connect to the Verizon, but not to wireless networks. While I truly enjoy apt-get, I would love to have 1 location for managing my network connections. And chance of that happening?
[01:47] <juan> hola hola
[01:47] <juan> hi
[01:47] <juan> hola
[01:47] <jpedroza> hi juan
[01:48] <jpedroza> !es | juan
[01:51] <Daskreech> jpedroza: try wicd
[01:51] <phelippe> anyone used oss 4 ?
[01:52] <jpedroza> Daskreech: Will that handle Broadband (CDMA) connections?
[01:52] <Daskreech> jpedroza: And hopefully the KDE network plasmoid will be more and more capable as it moves forward it's in Alpha right now (It's still not released) so there is a good chance of that. The plan is whatever NM supports it shall as well
[01:54] <jpedroza> Daskreech: But will it work with ppp connections like knetworkmanager. The web site just talks about wired and 802.11
[01:54] <Daskreech> jpedroza: I can ask if you like
[01:55] <jpedroza> I just droped in
[01:55] <jpedroza> dropped that is
[01:56] <Daskreech> Dropped in?
[01:56] <Daskreech> sparr: Hello
[01:56] <jpedroza> Daskreech: To #wicd
[01:56] <Daskreech> Ah :)
[01:57] <jpedroza> Daskreech: No mobile broadband
[01:57] <jpedroza> so it looks like I will be switching back and forth for the forseeable future.
[01:58] <Daskreech> jpedroza: I will try and find out if the KDE network plasmoid will have the functionality soon
[01:58] <jpedroza> Is there any reason knetworkmanager would not connect to 802.11 wireless networks?
[01:59] <jpedroza> That is the only thing keeping me from using it full time.
[02:03] <jpedroza> Or is knetworkmanager depreciated to the point that I can't use it?
[02:03] <jpedroza> For wireless that is
[02:03] <xjjk> jpedroza: it should still work
[02:03] <xjjk> but AFAIK almost all development is for the network manager plasmoid
[02:04] <neptune_> what does afaik mean
[02:05] <xjjk> AFAIK = as far as I know
[02:05] <jpedroza> xjjk: My issue is that I can connect to wireless with NetworkManager, but not knetworkmanager. I can connect to my Verizon Broadband connection (CDMA) from knetworkmanager, but not NetworkManager.
[02:05] <xjjk> jpedroza: that's interesting...
[02:05] <xjjk> jpedroza: you mean, GNOME's nm-applet when you say NetworkManager, right?
[02:05] <jpedroza> xjjk: I have been running into the same issue since 9.04 was released.
[02:06] <jpedroza> xjjk: No, the Plasmoid NetworkManager
[02:07] <jpedroza> too many projects with the same name =)
[02:07] <xjjk> jpedroza: have you tried GNOME's nm-applet?
[02:07] <jpedroza> xjjk: I have not.
[02:08] <xjjk> jpedroza: the package's name is nm-applet
[02:08] <jpedroza> xjjk: Can't find it...
[02:09] <jpedroza> xjjk: Well, apt can't find it
[02:09] <xjjk> jpedroza: sorry, I think the package name is network-manager-gnome
[02:09] <xjjk> the actual program is called nm-applet
[02:13] <jpedroza1> xjjk: Looks like I can connect to wireless with it
[02:14] <jpedroza1> xjjk: Testing MobileBroadband
[02:14] <Dragnslcr> Anybody else have a problem with the update notifier saying there are 8 updates, even when there aren't any?
[02:17] <tzanger> hmm; I am trying to sign an email message with my gpg key; the key works just fine with gpg, but when I try to send it with kontact it says that there was a bad passphrase error
[02:17] <tzanger> any ideas?
[02:20] <jpedroza1> xjjk: I am now connected over my broadband card.
[02:20] <Guest6149> con
[02:20] <tzanger> I already have gnupg-agent installed
[02:20] <jpedroza1> xjjk: Seems to work well. Shame I had to install a gnome package to do what I wanted to do in kde.
[02:49] <hubar_> hi all, What is the name for the preferred kubuntu package manager?
[02:50] <Dragnslcr> The default program in 9.04 is KPackageKit, but pretty much anything that uses apt (Adept, Synaptic, aptitude, etc.) will work fine
[02:50] <hubar_> okay :)
[02:51] <hubar_> Btw, how do I use knetworkmanager?
[02:51] <hubar_> I wanted to add a widge, but there is no networkmanager widget
[02:54] <Daskreech> There should be
[02:55] <splunkorspam> for KDE???
[02:56] <AussieGuy> how do I stop kubuntu from auto detecting eth0 and configuring it?
[02:57] <AussieGuy> I want to use my own /etc/network/interfaces
[03:00] <xjjk> AussieGuy: if you have a stanza for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces, then NetworkManager/Ubuntu won't take control of it
[03:00] <xjjk> AussieGuy: it will however keep NetworkManager watching (but not managing) the interfce, to send D-BUS events on link up/down events
[03:00] <tzanger> solved teh problem where kontact was not able to sign/encrypt messages
[03:01] <tzanger> gpg-agent was not running. I manually added it to .kde/env/ butmaybe there is a "supported" way to have that automatically happen
[03:02] <AussieGuy> ive got a bridge
[03:02] <AussieGuy> with eth0 connected to the bridge
[03:02] <AussieGuy> and the bridge connected to the internet
[03:03] <xjjk> AussieGuy: mmm
[03:03] <xjjk> AussieGuy: AFAIK I think you can still define eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces, but however tell Ubuntu to not do anything with it
[03:03] <AussieGuy> virtual machines also get connected to the bridge
[03:03] <xjjk> yah I understand the problem
[03:04] <xjjk> I usually have such setups only on servers, which won't have NetworkManager installed
[03:06] <AussieGuy> so you can uninstall it?
[03:07] <xjjk> AussieGuy: yes, easily
[03:07] <xjjk> AussieGuy: er, actually, if you're running a desktop, maybe so easily
[03:07] <AussieGuy> will it run if I was to shut down kde/gnome completely
[03:07] <xjjk> I think kubuntu-desktop depends on it
[03:07] <AussieGuy> and gdm/X
[03:07] <xjjk> AussieGuy: yes
[03:07] <xjjk> NetworkManager is good at being annoying
[03:11] <AussieGuy> done it, seems to work now, eth0 has no IP, bridge has one, bridge is connected to the net
[03:11] <AussieGuy> and eth0 to the bridge
[03:12] <xjjk> what did you do?
[03:13] <AussieGuy> got rid of network manager
[03:14] <AussieGuy> then did what I was doing with /etc/network/interfaces
[03:26] <AussieGuy> the funny thing is
[03:26] <AussieGuy> my isp has granted the virtual machine a seperate internet ip
[03:26] <AussieGuy> and it works, along with the hosts ip
[03:26] <ralmar> Hey guys, quick question. Will any eSATA cable support SATA II speeds or are there some eSATA cables that only reach SATA I speeds? Thanks
[03:49] <draik> Hello all. How do irssi work with dcc? I was trying to receive packages, but can't since I'm not sure what's going to happen for a prompt.
[03:50] <draik> Just want to see if I am really getting those files because I see nothing new on the server.
[04:05] <jimmy51_home> anyone here good with openoffice calc?
[04:05] <nicolas_> hey guys
[04:06] <p_quarles> jimmy51_home: what do you want to know?
[04:06] <Guest37249> someone can help me i install kubuntu and lost my boot windows how i can chose to but on windows and kubuntu
[04:09] <Guest37249> no one know ?
[04:10] <genii> Guest37249: First make sure Windows boots how it's supposed to. Then install Kubuntu
[04:10] <Zafer233> through wubi.?
[04:10] <Guest37249> i already have windows install and i install kubuntu after
[04:10] <Zafer233> I believe
[04:10] <Guest37249> on another partition
[04:10] <genii> Zafer233: Wubi is another thing altogether
[04:11] <jimmy51_home> p_quarles: does it not match the documentation when it comes to formulas?
[04:11] <genii> !mbr | Guest37249 - maybe check the methods here
[04:11] <jimmy51_home> p_quarles: for instance, I was doing an IF() condition, which the help said should be IF(condition; resultIfTrue, resultIfFalse)
[04:11] <jimmy51_home> but that deosn't work
[04:12] <jimmy51_home> it actually wants a comma instead of a semicolon
[04:12] <jimmy51_home> several functions seem to be that way
[04:13] <delta> hooolaaas
[04:14] <delta> alguien habla en españoool
[04:16] <delta__> alguien habla español
[04:16] <draik> !es | delta__
[04:37] <Zafer233> my kubuntu rocks.
[04:37] <Zafer233> lalala
[04:51] <alteroo> Hello :) can Anyone give some unsupported Apt help?
[04:52] <alteroo> I'm trying to install kontact but it's clashing with kde-icons-oxygen
[05:09] <svensko_> is it possible to change the DPI settings? I am running on a netbook and the fonts and windows are too large
[05:12] <alteroo> Checked in system settings?
[05:13] <svensko_> alteroo, compared to what i'm used to, this system settings looks like a maze :(
[05:14] <alteroo> Probably under display
[05:16] <svensko_> ah, i was looking under appearance
[05:39] <ubuntu> Good Evening
[05:43] <ubuntu> I have always used two partitions swap and /  I am thinking about the following partitons 12 gig swap 60 / for programs 130 home and wanted to mount  96 remaining to virtual box was mounted as /
[05:43] <ubuntu> What should the virtual box be mounted to prim or logical
[05:51] <alteroo> Doesn't matter
[06:12] <alteroo> anyone installed koffice ?
[06:12] <alteroo> The Repo seems messed up
[06:12] <alteroo> The files are all mismatched
[06:13] <Zafer233> ya
[06:13] <Zafer233> I did actually try once
[06:13] <Zafer233> it fed up my kernal
[06:14] <Zafer233> something about kformula?
[06:16] <alteroo> Your kernel cared about kformula being installed?
[06:16] <alteroo> That's really strange
[06:18] <svensko_> holy crap KDE runs slow on netbooks
[06:18] <svensko_> it literally took amarok 2 five minutes to open up
[06:19] <alteroo> First open?
[06:19] <svensko_> yes
[06:19] <svensko_> but even opening up system settings took a good amount of time
[06:19] <svensko_> ie 30 seconds to a minute
[06:20] <Zafer233> well I guess not the kernal. Lol but kformula required me to remove all of my kde apts.
[06:53] <noaXess> good morning
[06:54] <noaXess> does anybody have a information about quanta+ for kde4? ported?
[07:02] <alteroo> I think the SVN version is usable
[07:22] <Sperber101> moin zusammen
[07:32] <alteroo> Moin
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> werd
[07:34] <alteroo> K-Side!
[07:35]  * alteroo makes a very uncomfortable K with his fingers
[07:35] <alteroo> Whee Fixed an Amarok Script :)
[07:35] <alteroo> Now if I could just install Akregator :(
[07:36]  * ActionParsnip is L-side
[07:37] <alteroo> That's not fair you chose that just to make easier gang signs :-P
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> no, I use LXDE :D
[07:38] <Sperber101> <-- -
[07:39] <alteroo> Yes and you did that just to hve an easier gang sign
[07:39] <alteroo>  Werd!
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> nar, i just like ram for my apps rather than my desktop env
[07:43] <alteroo> cli 4lyfe!
[07:44] <alteroo> Though borrent-headless can be quite greedy
[07:44] <alteroo> bitorrent-headless
[07:57] <ajavid> hi
[07:58] <alteroo> !hi
[07:58] <ajavid> how do you enable compiz fusion in kubuntu 9.04 kde3 remix
[07:58] <alteroo> install it and   the ccsm
[07:58] <ajavid> ccsm ImportError: No module named compizconfig
[07:58] <alteroo> and compizconfig I guess
[07:58] <ajavid> I have about every compiz package installed
[07:59] <alteroo> and compiz --replace doesn' work?
[08:00] <ajavid> python-compizconfig-kde3: Installed: 0.7.4-0ubuntu11
[08:00] <ajavid> alteroo, it does, ccsm doesn't launch
[08:00] <ajavid> I can't configure compiz
[08:00] <ajavid> ccsm gives error
[08:01] <ajavid> Traceback (most recent call last):
[08:01] <ajavid>   File "/usr/bin/ccsm", line 38, in <module>
[08:01] <ajavid>     import compizconfig
[08:01] <ajavid> ImportError: No module named compizconfig
[08:01] <alteroo> what error does ccsm give ?
[08:01] <alteroo> !info compizconfig
[08:01] <alteroo> !info ccsm
[08:01] <alteroo> !info compiz
[08:01] <alteroo> hmm
[08:02] <ajavid> http://paste.ubuntu.com/188812/
[08:02] <peabody> is there support for burning blueray discs in Linux yet?
[08:02] <ajavid> its called compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-get installcompizconfig-settings-manager
[08:02] <alteroo> peabody: Yes
[08:02] <alteroo> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:02] <peabody> alteroo what do I need to install to burn blueray discs?
[08:03] <alteroo> A blueray burner :)
[08:03] <peabody> nice
[08:04] <heru> how to open ntfs partition without passwd?
[08:05] <alteroo> ajavid: this is probably a problem nore easily solved in #ubuntu
[08:05] <alteroo> heru: Click on it in Dolphin
[08:05] <heru> ??
[08:06] <heru> left or rigt click?
[08:06] <alteroo> left
[08:06] <heru> Ok, then..
[08:07] <ajavid> i have all the compizconfig stuff instaleld
[08:07] <ajavid> I go to python console and try import compizconfig, and same message
[08:07] <ajavid> no module named compizconfig
[08:08] <ajavid> /opt/kde3/lib/python2.6/site-packages/compizconfig.so
[08:08] <ajavid> I don't think python knows about this /opt/kde3/lib/python2.6/site-packages/compizconfig.so
[08:15] <alteroo> ajavid: are there other modules in that path?
[08:15] <ajavid> no
[08:16] <alteroo> move it to where the other modules are
[08:18] <ajavid> this is a bug
[08:18] <ajavid> no moving
[08:18] <ajavid> python didn't know about the module compizconfig in the kde3 package as it is in /opt
[08:19] <alteroo> ajavid: file it
[08:19] <ajavid> I simply went to /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ and ln -s /opt/kde3/lib/python2.6/site-packages/compizconfig.so
[08:19] <ajavid> now it works just fine
[08:19] <ajavid> this packae needs to install a link to where the .so is
[08:20] <ajavid> without it people using kde3 on jaunty can't run compiz
[08:20] <ajavid> how do i file it? use reportbug?
[08:22] <alteroo> !bugs
[08:26] <alteroo> !fstab | heru
[09:01] <neonoe_> Hello, on live cd kubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso I do not see any qparted or gparted, only parted in command line. Is there other soft to make a partition on my disk ? Thank you for help.
[09:08] <sorset> hi , i realized that usb speed in kubuntu 9.04 is very low in my pc , but i didnt have this problem in older kubuntu , how can i fix it?
[09:10] <eagles0513875> hey guys is there a package that i can install where i can open pptx and other new office 07 formats
[09:11] <eagles0513875> !pptx
[09:16] <neonoe_> ok, I only need to install it ;)
[09:18] <eagles0513875> neonoe_: ?
[09:19] <neonoe_> Yes I was looking for gparted on liveCD kubuntu I mentionned before.
[09:19] <neonoe_> As a matter of fact, sudo apt-get install gparted is enough ^^
[10:01] <francisc1701> hi
[10:02] <francisc1701> I have a yahoo messenger account. Can I use kopete to talk to an AIM account? Or MSN?
[10:09] <dario> hi guys
[10:09] <dario> can someone help me?
[10:10] <dario> I just install Kubuntu 9.04 and i cant install privative drivers, i cant activate them
[10:10] <dario> someone?
[10:14] <dario> nobody?
[10:19] <klad> goodmorning everybody
[10:20] <klad> is there anyway to change delay and repeat time keyboard settings ?
[10:21] <klad> l
[10:22] <jussi01> klad: of course, system settings -> keyboard and mouse...
[10:22] <klad> yeah ... but I cannot find any kind of settings like that
[10:23] <klad> I'm in system settings
[10:23] <klad> and looking at any keyboard settings ... but I cannot find a reference to repeat time or delay
[10:23] <jussi01> klad: which version of kubuntu?
[10:24] <klad> 9.04
[10:24] <klad> I guess :p
[10:24] <klad> I mean I've installed an Ubuntu this morning
[10:24] <jussi01> 1 moment, Ill upload what I see...
[10:24] <klad> and I've installed the KDe-desktop
[10:24] <klad> ok many thanks
[10:25] <jussi01> klad: http://imagebin.ca/view/aul1LFT.html
[10:25] <JbCrash> hi.. how to check my kubuntu version and update it?
[10:25] <jussi01> !version
[10:26] <JbCrash> to update my kutbuntu to new version..how?
[10:26] <jussi01> !upgrade
[10:27] <klad> No LSB modules are available.
[10:27] <klad> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[10:27] <klad> Description:    Ubuntu 9.04
[10:27] <klad> Release:        9.04
[10:27] <klad> Codename:       jaunty
[10:28] <jussi01> !paste | klad
[10:28] <klad> oh .. :) thanks  and sorry
[10:34] <JbCrash> how i can run Adept Manager as root?
[10:34] <Mamarok> JbCrash: Alt + F2, type kdesudo adept
[10:36] <JbCrash> Mamarok: its say command not found!
[10:38] <Mamarok> JbCrash: do you run 9.04?
[10:39] <JbCrash> no
[10:39] <JbCrash> 8.04
[10:39] <Mamarok> JbCrash: oh, then you run KDE3, right?
[10:40] <JbCrash> gnome
[10:40] <safc> sucks
[10:40] <JbCrash> now i updating to 8.10
[10:40] <Mamarok> JbCrash: ok, then the default installation manager is synaptic
[10:40] <Mamarok> JbCrash: and btw, Gnome support is mostly in #ubuntu :)
[10:40] <Mamarok> safc: behave!
[10:41] <safc> :)
[10:41] <JbCrash> Mamarok: sorry.. im new..i still learning..btw when i reboot i can see kubuntu screen
[10:41] <Mamarok> JbCrash: could it be you have both desktops installed?
[10:42] <JbCrash> Ma\
[10:42] <Mamarok> JbCrash: but don't worry, you can use synaptic to upgrade your system too, it's very easy to use
[10:42] <JbCrash> Mamarok:  not sure about it..how i can check it and remove ?
[10:43] <Mamarok> JbCrash: what would you like to remove?
[10:43] <JbCrash> u said got 2 desktops
[10:43] <JbCrash> ok..
[10:43] <Mamarok> JbCrash: well, you can have both Gnome and KDE on a PC, it doesn't hurt
[10:44] <Mamarok> JbCrash: you just choose which session you want to start before login in
[10:44] <JbCrash> gnome
[10:44] <Mamarok> JbCrash: you want to remove it you mean?
[10:46] <JbCrash> Mamarok:  ok..now my system use kubuntu..i think ths nice.. just want update my ubuntu.. now using 8.04
[10:46] <JbCrash> No LSB modules are available.
[10:46] <JbCrash> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[10:46] <JbCrash> Description:	Ubuntu 8.04
[10:46] <JbCrash> Release:	8.04
[10:46] <JbCrash> Codename:	hardy
[10:47] <Mamarok> !paste | JbCrash
[10:47] <JbCrash> Mamarok: sorry for paste
[10:48] <Mamarok> JbCrash: I still don't know exactly what you want to remove :) Gnome? Upgrade to 8.10?
[10:48] <JbCrash> Mamarok:  i want upgrade my ubuntu
[10:48] <Mamarok> JbCrash: ok, still in Gnome? then start synaptic
[10:49] <Mamarok> it will ask you your password
[10:49] <JbCrash> ok
[10:49] <JbCrash> done
[10:49] <JbCrash> then
[10:49] <Mamarok> JbCrash: then go to the Settings menu and choose preferences
[10:49] <JbCrash> k
[10:51] <JbCrash> Mamarok: u there
[10:51] <Mamarok> hm, wrong, Settings menu and choose repositories
[10:52] <Guest26744> hello, aho an gutne tag. somebody knows howto configurate a squid server?
[10:52] <Mamarok> JbCrash: sorry, had to fire up synaptic to be sure :)
[10:52] <JbCrash> ok
[10:53] <JbCrash> ok
[10:53] <JbCrash> now in repositories
[10:55] <Mamarok> JbCrash: sorry, ws sure to find an upgrade version option there and can't see any here, do you have such an option visible there?
[10:56] <JbCrash> no
[10:56] <jussi01> JbCrash: did you read the link from ubottu before?
[10:56] <jussi01> !upgrade
[10:57] <jussi01> second link iirc
[10:57] <Mamarok> jussi01: thx, was on that wikipage now, but he wants to upgrade to 8.10
[10:57] <JbCrash> yea
[10:57] <JbCrash> reading it now
[10:57] <jussi01> why? o.O
[10:58] <Mamarok> jussi01: I don't know...
[10:58] <JbCrash> yea.. Mamarok its any way.. i just update to latest version? i mean skip 8.10 and just upgrade to 9.04?
[10:58] <JbCrash> using  8.04 hardy now
[10:58] <Mamarok> yes, you can
[10:59] <JbCrash> any simple commands?
[10:59] <Mamarok> JbCrash: read that wiki page jussi01 just gave you, the instructions are there
[11:00] <JbCrash> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04
[11:00] <JbCrash> ?
[11:00] <Mamarok> yes, but you will have to start KDE instead of Gnomw to do so
[11:00] <Mamarok> log out of Gnome and change the session to KDE, then log in again
[11:01] <JbCrash> ok
[11:01] <JbCrash> change it now
[11:03] <aaron__> hello. I just saw that amarok 2.1 was released and added the repository in the release annoncement but it's telling me it's a blocked update. Does anybody know how to fix that?
[11:03] <JbCrash> ok
[11:03] <JbCrash> im in kde now
[11:04] <JbCrash> Mamarok: u there
[11:04] <BOZG> aaron__: Update it through synaptic manually rather than auto-updater
[11:04] <aaron__> BOZG: how do I do that? I don't think I even have synaptic installed
[11:04] <JbCrash> updates
[11:04] <JbCrash> !updates
[11:04] <BOZG> aaron__: For some reason, I thought I was in #ubuntu
[11:04] <JbCrash> !update
[11:05] <BOZG> aaron__: use KPackageKit
[11:05] <aaron__> BOZG: I am, but when i search for amarok it still says 2.0.2. The -dbg package says 2.1, though
[11:05] <BOZG> aaron__: Applications->System->Software Management
[11:06] <BOZG> Strange, when did you get the update? Today?
[11:06] <BOZG> I still only have 2.0.2 in the dbg
[11:06] <TheGrammarFreak> What does grub see my CD drive as? Like, it sees my HDD as hd0,0, what's the CD drive called?
[11:06] <aaron__> a few days ago. Right after I added the backports repository
[11:08] <BOZG> Let me have a look.  I should have backports enabled.
[11:10] <BOZG> Only showing 2.0.2 for me.
[11:11] <aaron__> BOZG: but are you running 2.1?
[11:12] <BOZG> No, 2.0.2
[11:13] <BOZG> There's a thread on the forums suggesting you try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:13] <BOZG> And that's installing it with no problems.
[11:13] <aaron__> will that hurt anything else?
[11:13] <BOZG> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3104322.0
[11:13] <aaron__> all right, I'll give it a shot
[11:13] <BOZG> Shouldn't do.
[11:14] <BOZG> aaron__: OK, I got it working in Add/Remove
[11:15] <aaron__> how?
[11:15] <BOZG> Are you getting a GPG error when you do sudo apt-get update?
[11:16] <BOZG> I just ran sudo apt-get update and searched for the amarok package in Add/Remove and it gave me the option to update.
[11:16] <BOZG> upgrade*
[11:17] <aaron__> I wasn't getting GPG errors
[11:17] <aaron__> and the dist-upgrade seems to have done the trick!
[11:17] <aaron__> thank you very much :-)
[11:18] <BOZG> No problem.
[11:18] <BOZG> Thank you for letting me know there was an update :P
[11:18] <aaron__> welcome :-)
[11:19] <aaron__> this one is significantly prettier than 2.0, too
[11:19] <BOZG> Yeah, seems a lot smoother looking.
[11:20] <aaron__> mmm, it just crashed when I tried to play my last.fm stream, though...
[11:20] <aaron__> although it's not scrobbling my tracks again
[11:20] <aaron__> now*
[11:21] <aaron__> oh, it works now. Just a 1 time glitch, I guess
[11:21] <Mamarok> BOZG, aaron__ these are not the usual backports, but the backport PPA, that's different
[11:21] <aaron__> I just went by http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.1
[11:21] <aaron__> how are they different?
[11:21] <Mamarok> BOZG: what does the version tell you in Help -> about Amarok?
[11:22] <Mamarok> aaron__: there are the "official" backport repositories, and there are the Kubuntu PPA repos which are "semi-official"
[11:22] <Mamarok> PPA = Private Package Archive, hence not really official
[11:22] <aaron__> are you saying I should disable it now that I have what I want installed?
[11:23] <Mamarok> aaron__: no, why?
[11:23] <aaron__> because things might come up in it that I don't want to install?
[11:23] <aaron__> I don't recall it telling me which repository a particular update is coming from and I usually just hit apply all
[11:24] <Mamarok> aaron__: then choose manually what you want ot install, instead of just letting it be handled automatically
[11:24] <BOZG> Mamarok: 2.1
[11:24] <Mamarok> BOZG: ok, then it's the correct one, but it seems last.fm has some problems since yesterday, scrobbling worked fine when we tagged the package
[11:25] <BOZG> I'll try it.
[11:25] <Mamarok> BOZG: make sure you enter your account name and password correctly
[11:27] <BOZG> Mamarok: Have to remember my account name first.  I don't really use Last.fm.  I have too many secret pleasures in musical taste that I'd be ashamed if other people knew about :p
[11:30] <BOZG> No, doesn't appear to be scrobbling.
[11:30] <Mamarok> aaron__: still scrobbling problems?
[11:30] <aaron__> Mamarok: no, all's well now
[11:30] <Mamarok> great :)
[11:30] <aaron__> it's such a wonderful program :-)
[11:30] <TheGrammarFreak> I want to install Windows 98 on my PC and dual boot. This is to play games that won't work through wine. Is there a way to do this without havinf to re-install kubuntu?
[11:30] <Mamarok> thx :)
[11:31] <Mamarok> TheGrammarFreak: ouch, if you have a separate partition where you will install Windows on this might work, you will have to restore grup though
[11:31] <Mamarok> grub
[11:33] <TheGrammarFreak> Mamrok: Ok, I have read somewhere though that windows insits on being the frist OS on the disk, or something similar. Can I just chuck windows on the end of one of my hard disks, or do I have to go through the lengthy process of changing everything?
[11:33] <BOZG> Ok, it showed the track that I was listening to then when I refreshed it disappeared.
[11:35] <Mamarok> TheGrammarFreak: no, Windows indeed needs the first partition on a disk, so either have a separate disk you can set as master or else you will have to reinstall your Kubuntu later :(
[11:36] <TheGrammarFreak> So it needs to be the first partition of the master disk?
[11:38] <Tm_T> Guest73277: are we rooted now?
[11:38] <TheGrammarFreak> Fool
[11:38] <TheGrammarFreak> Doesn't it give warnings abou that? Loging in as root
[11:39] <Tm_T> TheGrammarFreak: might or might not
[11:39] <TheGrammarFreak> Tm_T: It did when I tried, and I thought agains it
[11:39] <Tm_T> TheGrammarFreak: though, warnings are just, well, warnings, people tend to ignore them
[11:40] <ForeverSmurf> hello, can someone point me in the right direction 'url' of a jaunty 9.04 installation instructions on a usb pen drive
[11:40] <Tm_T> !usb
[11:40] <Tm_T> ForeverSmurf: see above
[11:41] <Mamarok> BOZG: where did it disapear from?
[11:42] <ForeverSmurf> Thank you Tm... that looks exactly like what I need
[11:42] <BOZG> Mamarok: Ok, it's working fine now.
[11:43] <Mamarok> great :)
[11:43] <BOZG> I like the new splash screen.
[11:43] <Mamarok> BOZG: yeah, so do we :)
[11:44] <BOZG> Now to remember, not to play any dodgy music while I'm using Last.fm :P
[11:44] <Mamarok> :)
[11:44] <TheGrammarFreak> Nice
[11:44] <TheGrammarFreak> I'm not sure I can face doing that for windows
[11:45] <BOZG> Is there likely to be iPod Touch v2 compatability with Amarok at any point?
[11:47] <Mamarok> BOZG: if it's uncaged, yes, if you have Firmware v2 then you will have to wait till somebody has time to reverse-engeneer it...
[11:48] <BOZG> Guess I'm stuck with iTunes for the moment then. :)
[11:48] <Mamarok> BOZG: the problem is not on our side, ask Apple to make free hardware...
[11:49] <BOZG> I know that.
[11:49] <BOZG> I've just become obsessive with the Touch.
[11:50] <BOZG> Best prize I've ever won :P
[11:50] <Mamarok> ...or do not buy proprietary stuff ;)
[11:50] <Mamarok> but that's not exactly Kubuntu support stuff anyway
[12:27] <ubsafder> i got an app crash how do i install debug symbols ?
[12:28] <steven_> install the <pkg-name>-dbg packages using apt
[12:32] <DanDan> Hello .. I've recently updated from Ubuntu 8.04 to 9.04 jaunty ... and now I have flashplugin-nonfree broken .. I have tried everything to try n reinstall remove or install purge anything u can imagine and nothins seems to work ... anyone plz ?
[12:37] <Guest22128> hi i install kubuntu and on c: so i delete my boot file for windows and my windows is on d: how i can renew that to load windows on grub
[12:40] <cjae> !updates
[12:40] <cjae> figures
[12:40] <cjae> !info updates
[12:41] <cjae> Are there any updates that completely break kubuntu 9.04? I just did a reinstall
[12:44] <Guest26744> hey folks, i have an package on my desktop but i vcan not open it and install it. tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.7.1.tar.gz -C /opt ad i get always an §not found" message
[12:45] <cherva> anyone worked with ICECC to help me determin why only one of the 2 nodes is used ?
[12:45] <Guest26744> and if i ty it to open it on my desktop it says it is donebut i can not find it
[12:59] <cjae> anyone using kde 4.3 successfully? or should I wait a month
[13:01] <Mamarok> cjae: I do, but the installation is tricky, dependency problems
[13:01] <Mamarok> cjae: but if you can handle those...
[13:02] <cjae> Mamarok, you remember tyring to help me yesterday I think it was?
[13:02] <cjae> trying
[13:02] <Mamarok> cjae: yes, it was me
[13:02] <Mamarok> cjae: still have problems?
[13:03] <cjae> Mamarok, ok unrelated to kde4.3, should I just use sudo aptitude safe-upgrade from now on
[13:03] <cjae> Mamarok, since I little to no faith in kpackagekit
[13:03] <cjae> Mamarok, I just did a fresh reinstall
[13:04] <cjae> also is the WHOLE kpackagekit thing fixed in 4.3?
[13:05] <Mamarok> cjae: well, it seems to work better now, but I don't sue it, aptitude is my choice now
[13:05] <Mamarok> use*
[13:06] <Mamarok> cjae: currently you have 4.2.2 or did you upgrade to 4.2.4?
[13:06] <cjae> I was looking through release notes or plans and did nt see much about it, but that means nothing to :p
[13:06] <cjae> one sec
[13:06] <cjae> 4.2.2
[13:07] <Mamarok> cjae: before trying 4.3 you should consider 4.2.4
[13:08] <cjae> Mamarok, if I use the safe-upgrade that would have NOT installed those broken updates yesterday correct?
[13:08] <Mamarok> cjae: also, if you are not familiar with missing dependencies and how to fixe those with force-overweite, do not go for 4.3
[13:08] <cjae> ok
[13:08] <Mamarok> cjae: well, you should never have forced broken packages in the first place
[13:09] <Mamarok> hm, should read "--force-overwrite"
[13:09] <cjae> Mamarok, I really didnt all I used was dist-upgrade, but I guess thats as good as -f
[13:10] <Mamarok> cjae: no, I think you just started to upgrade when there still were problems, and that broke the stuff
[13:10] <cjae> Mamarok, the last time I dealt with missing dependencies, was on suse 9
[13:11] <cjae> rpm sucks
[13:11] <Mamarok> cjae: instead of KPackagekit, consider to use aptitude, it works very well
[13:11] <Mamarok> cjae: OT :)
[13:11] <cjae> whats OT
[13:11] <Mamarok> !ot | cjae
[13:12] <cjae> ah
[13:12] <Mamarok> and bashing is not allowed neither, so even if you don't like RPM packages, don't say it aloud :)
[13:12] <cjae> ok sorry
[13:13] <Mamarok> no problem :)
[13:13] <cjae> I ve heard there system is much better now...ok ill quit now
[13:13] <cjae> :)
[13:15] <cjae> One more thing, when you use the aptitude ncurses thing, what do you do just to invoke the latest needed updates?
[13:15] <cjae> like those that show up in update managers
[13:18] <Mamarok> cjae: actually, I don't use the ncurses interface, but wait...
[13:18] <matt____> hey all - would someone be able to help me out with a (I hope) quick sound question?
[13:19] <cjae> Mamarok, I ve read up one it but the last time I used it, I could figure it out. Its something like g to upgrade U to update
[13:19] <Mamarok> cjae: once in the interface, type u and you will have to provide your passwrod,
[13:19] <Mamarok> then it checks the repos and will show you if there are upgrades available
[13:19] <Mamarok> cjae: it's much eaiser to just use sudo aptitude update
[13:20] <cjae> right
[13:20] <Mamarok> then sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[13:20] <cjae> Mamarok, do you have separate x screens?
[13:20] <Mamarok> no, just a laptop right now
[13:21]  * cjae thinks this is still broken, but he also thinks ppl may be thinking of the twinview apps that open on wrong screens
[13:22] <Mamarok> cjae: well, if I were you I would safe the configuration, go back to default, upgrade and the install the split screen again
[13:23] <cjae> it confusing cause some ppl say it  the nvidia drivers and some say its the DE itself and then I find out it broken in gnome to apparently
[13:23] <Mamarok> cjae: keep in mind that separate X screens is not default and only a minority of users use them
[13:23] <Mamarok> hence it's the Nvidia driver :)
[13:24] <Mamarok> poke Nvidia for that :)
[13:24] <cjae> Mamarok, see I have a very specific xorg (that took me forever to figure out how to build) that will not work in k 9.04
[13:24] <petsounds> hello, me and my friend are now chatting via msn. and when she invite me to view her cam kopete can't view it. my friend using W xp. the Q is what IM software you can suggested to me? btw i also try using pidgin but still i can't view her cam. thank you for reading.
[13:25]  * cjae hates twinview
[13:26]  * cjae always has to look back at monitor which defeats the purpose, IMHO
[13:26] <Mamarok> petsounds: did you install amsn?
[13:27] <petsounds> mamarok : what is that?
[13:27] <cjae> petsounds, the linux equivalent
[13:28] <Mamarok> that's the MSN client for Linux
[13:28] <cjae> petsounds, there is also emense or something like that
[13:28] <petsounds> cjae : can you write me cmd line to install it?
[13:29] <cjae> your web cam must be supported though, and you client has to have v4l2 as well I blieve
[13:29] <cjae> sudo aptitude install amsn
[13:29] <cjae> believe
[13:31] <petsounds> cjae : idk what you mean with v4l2 or sth. but i'm installing linux msn now.
[13:31] <Mamarok> cjae: exact
[13:32] <cjae> petsounds, if you webcam is not supported right away, it is kind of an ordeal to try to get what you want working...eg. if you have a lifecam (microsoft web cam)
[13:32] <Mamarok> cjae: it's about seeing the cam pictures of the other person I think
[13:32] <cjae> oh
[13:32] <petsounds> cjae : yeah that's what i mean
[13:33] <Mamarok> kopete should be able to sort that out though
[13:33] <cjae> petsounds, you may find the other msn clone less ugly and more friendly too
[13:33] <Mamarok> petsounds: just try with amsn, maybe you are lucky
[13:34] <Mamarok> cjae: "ugly" is a very personal opinion, so...
[13:35] <petsounds> cjae : yes it's a bit ugly LOL but as long as it works i don't care about the appearance.
[13:36] <cjae> Mamarok, well it doesnt fit well into DE and the cursor isnt even the right way
[13:37] <Mamarok> !opinion > cjae
[13:38] <petsounds> cjae : seems the amsn crashed everytime she invite me.
[13:38] <petsounds> mamarok : any other suggestions?
[13:39] <cjae> Emesene
[13:39] <Mamarok> petsounds: hm, not really, did you try tweaking all kopete options for that?
[13:40] <cjae> but I am pretty sure if amsn doesn get it neither will that one
[13:40] <cjae> +t
[13:40] <igor> Hello everyone! Anyone configured multi channel on Creative Audigy 2 in Kubuntu 9.04?
[13:40] <zorglu_> q. is there a tool to bench X ?
[13:41] <Mamarok> igor: check systemsettings ->Multimedia
[13:41] <cjae> amyway, thanks for the help Mamarok, gotta get some zzzs
[13:41] <Mamarok> cjae: yaw :)
[13:43] <igor> Mamarok: I have many options there (Front/Rear/...) If I choose Rear - I can hear only Rear speakers. The same with Front etc. Here is the screenshot: http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4708/snapshot1u.png Maybe you know how can I use all of them to have a 5.1 sound?
[13:44] <mouka> Anybody can help with an issue?
[13:44] <Mamarok> igor: do you have alsa-mixer installed?
[13:44] <Mamarok> !ask | mouka
[13:44] <mouka> I am trying to compile an ogre 3d application, and my linker is complaining about a missing library
[13:44] <petsounds> mamarok : it's okay now, i can view her cam on amsn. weird cause i don't do anything. anyway thank you for your help.
[13:45] <Mamarok> petsounds: yaw :)
[13:45] <igor> Mamarok: yes, I have alsamixer and I un-muted all options there
[13:47] <Guest28138> aloha, ihave a problem to install xampp-linux. i have it on my desktop but: 1. i cant open it, ergo, i cant install it.. somebody an idea why?
[13:47] <Mamarok> igor: alsamixergui allows you to change the sound levels too, sometimes it's just a matter of the level
[13:48] <Pici> !xampp | Guest28138
[13:49] <radi> When I make a complete new installation of Kubuntu and use aptitude for the installation of every package I need, will I run into trouble, cause the original System was installed by apt-get?
[13:49] <Mamarok> radi: no
[13:50] <Mamarok> radi: aptitude is just a frontend of apt-get
[13:50] <Mamarok> and apt-search, etc
[13:51] <radi> Mamarok: Hmm, The documentation tells it is a completly diffrent packetmanager and one should never mix the usage of apt-get and aptitude
[13:51] <Mamarok> mouka: then you will probably have to install a -dev package to get that library
[13:51] <Mamarok> mouka: what library is it?
[13:52] <Mamarok> radi: well, you either use that or the other one, but then you better stay with it :)
[13:52] <Mamarok> same applies to the GUI frontends btw
[13:52] <Mamarok> radi: both use dpkg anyway
[13:53] <radi> Mamarok: Thx. I'll give it a shot then.
[13:55] <Guest28138> where i can find the source codes or the sources.list for 9.04
[14:03] <igor> Mamarok: It's strange, but all my mixers are 100% and still no sound from some speakers (I've played with options in System settings->Multimedia all my speakers are playing if I choose them, but i can't get them work all at once :( )
[14:06] <Guest28138> sources.list? sombody an link please?
[14:07] <Being_Tsukasa> igor: have checked to see if its muted?
[14:08] <bazhang> Guest28138, a sample one is ubuntuguide for jaunty
[14:09] <igor> Being_Tsukasa: yes it's not muted :( What else can be the problem?
[14:09] <Guest28138> thanks, but where i can find this
[14:10] <bazhang> let me get the link
[14:10] <Guest28138> nice, thanks
[14:10] <Being_Tsukasa> could be audio drivers
[14:10] <julio> ubuntu fr please
[14:10] <Being_Tsukasa> try working through the troubleshooting
[14:10] <Being_Tsukasa> !sound
[14:10] <julio> can you give me ubuntu french please
[14:11] <Pici> !fr | julio
[14:12] <igor> ubottu: thanks I'll take a look at the links!
[14:12] <igor> :)
[14:12] <bazhang> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty#Manually_add_repositories Guest28138
[14:14] <Guest28138> yes! thats it. thanks al ot!
[14:14] <bazhang> no problem :)
[14:16] <Guest28138> oh, what does this means? NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[14:17] <bazhang> gpg error
[14:17] <bazhang> !gpgerr
[14:20] <Guest28138>  GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org jaunty Release: Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht überprüft werden, weil ihr öffentlicher Schlüssel nicht verfügbar ist: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[14:21] <Pici> Guest28138: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Adding%20the%20Repositories
[14:21] <bazhang> Guest28138, the medibuntu.org page has the instructions on how exactly to import the keys
[14:22] <petsounds> i try to upgrade my 2.0.2 amarok to 2.1 and i add this deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main, then the notification appear but i can't install it cause it says blocked updates. what did i miss?
[14:24] <Guest28138> still got the message
[14:25] <bazhang> Guest28138, did you go to medibuntu.org page?
[14:25] <Guest28138> yes
[14:25] <bazhang> Guest28138, and follow the exact instructions?
[14:25] <Guest28138> yes
[14:27] <Guest28138> but know the first error message disappaerd. now i have only one erroe left
[14:27] <Guest28138> W: GPG error: http://dl.google.com stable Release: Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht überprüft werden, weil ihr öffentlicher Schlüssel nicht verfügbar ist: NO_PUBKEY A040830F7FAC5991
[14:27] <Guest28138> the first one was this  NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[14:28] <bazhang> Guest28138, that is a google repo then?
[14:29] <Guest28138> looks like
[14:29] <bazhang> then follow the same steps as in !gpgerr above
[14:30] <bazhang> with <key> being replaced with your key of course
[14:31] <sczgilae> hello
[14:34] <sczgilae> i have one installation of kubuntu 9.04 with LDAP configured. Im configuring for the users. Now i see, that when i login as normal user of LDAP, in the screen appears "HDA INTEL doesnt work (STA92xx Analog), the system uses pulseaudio.
[14:36] <baxeico> petsounds: i read somewhere that kpackagekit cannot upgrade if it has to install additional packages (i don't remenber details), but you can use aptitude from konsole
[14:37] <baxeico> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[14:37] <petsounds> baxeico : i'll try
[14:52] <redddraggon> hello
[14:57] <petsounds> baxeico : it works. thank you
[15:17] <loganWHD> hello all
[15:17] <loganWHD> just upgraded to 9.04
[15:17] <loganWHD> went pretty mooth
[15:17] <loganWHD> smooth even
[15:17] <loganWHD> just one question, i have the resolution on the highest setting it just seems that everything is alot BIGGER than before
[15:18] <loganWHD> any suggesstions on how i can change that?
[15:18] <loganWHD> pls
[15:18] <JontheEchidna> is it just the fonts that are bigger?
[15:18] <JontheEchidna> or is it not letting you set the resolution as high as you used to be able?
[15:18] <loganWHD> I think both
[15:18] <loganWHD> everything seems bigger
[15:19] <loganWHD> i use thunderbird for email
[15:19] <loganWHD> everything looks bolded
[15:19] <loganWHD> even this window...
[15:19] <loganWHD> i have it on 1900X1028
[15:19] <loganWHD> but looks more like 1200X smth
[15:19] <JontheEchidna> you could try bumping up the font DPI. Let me see if I can find where you do that
[15:19] <loganWHD> it is as high as it cna go
[15:20] <loganWHD> 1900x1200
[15:20] <JontheEchidna> in System Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts there should be a DPI setting
[15:20] <oobe> this in xorg.conf should help loganWHD Option         "DPI" "100 x 100"
[15:22] <loganWHD> JontheEchidna, let me check
[15:22] <loganWHD> oobe, are you saying to add that to xorg.conf?
[15:22] <oobe> yeah but try JontheEchidna's idea first
[15:22] <oobe> cause it seems easier
[15:23] <oobe> you would need to restart x also i think thay maybe nvidia specifix
[15:23] <loganWHD> there are three choices
[15:23] <loganWHD> disabled, 96, 120 dpi
[15:23] <JontheEchidna> try 120
[15:24] <loganWHD> didnt seem to change much
[15:24] <JontheEchidna> did it change any?
[15:24] <loganWHD> not that i can see
[15:24] <JontheEchidna> you may have to log out and restart X
[15:25] <JontheEchidna> (alt + e at the login screen)
[15:26] <loganWHD> alt e ?
[15:26] <loganWHD> whats that do?
[15:27] <JontheEchidna> restarts X
[15:27] <JontheEchidna> alternately you could use oobe's solution, which should accomplish around the same thing
[15:28] <loganWHD> adding 100x100 to xorg.conf?
[15:28] <JontheEchidna> yeah, then restarting X
[15:29] <loganWHD> where would i add that?
[15:29] <JontheEchidna> dunno exactly
[15:30] <JontheEchidna> I think in the screen section
[15:31] <loganWHD> ok well i changed the dpi thing but i cant restart yet
[15:31] <loganWHD> so let me try that in a few
[15:34] <Polyculture> does banshee ususally recongnice my portable media player when connected?
[15:35] <Polyculture> don't see anything promising, aslo can't find corresponding menu entries
[15:44] <Mamarok> Polyculture: can't tell, as Banshee is more a Gnome application, never used it
[15:44] <Polyculture> Mamarok: what about amarok 2.1, the device plasmoid doesn't seem to work
[15:47] <dk-laptop> Anyone knows why sudo ask me the password two times? How I can make it ask for password only one time?
[15:48] <loganWHD> JontheEchidna, thank you
[15:48] <loganWHD> very much
[15:48] <loganWHD> that worked perfect
[15:48] <loganWHD> I AM BACK
[15:48] <loganWHD> i can see
[15:48] <loganWHD> :)
[15:49] <Polyculture> dk-laptop: hmm, the only reason for this to happen i know is that one mis-spelled the password
[15:50] <genii> dk-laptop: What command are you using sudo with?
[15:50] <dk-laptop> Polyculture: I type the password correcly, but anyway it ask the password two times
[15:51] <dk-laptop> genii: It happens with any command that I try
[15:51] <Polyculture> dk-laptop: sorry, i have no clue
[15:51] <sczgilae> i have one installation of kubuntu 9.04 with LDAP configured. Im configuring for the users. Now i see, that when i login as normal user of LDAP, in the screen appears "HDA INTEL doesnt work (STA92xx Analog), the system uses pulseaudio.
[15:51] <genii> dk-laptop: Sounds like a PAM authentication issue.
[15:51] <dk-laptop> thiago@thiago-laptop:~$ sudo echo 123
[15:51] <dk-laptop> [sudo] password for thiago:
[15:51] <dk-laptop> [sudo] password for thiago:
[15:51] <dk-laptop> 123
[15:52] <Mamarok> Polyculture: you should ask on #amarok IMHO, I don't think the applet is ready yet, there is a GSoC project for it running currently
[15:53] <Polyculture> Mamarok: all right, thanks for the hint
[15:53] <sczgilae> but as root works ok. so maybe permission?
[15:55] <Mamarok> sczgilae: no, that is Pulseaduio conflicting in Phonon, you should remove it, KDE doesn't use Pulseaudio
[15:58] <sczgilae> mamarok, thanks, so i have to remove pulseaudio
[15:59] <dk-laptop> Ohh.. I found the problem
[16:00] <dk-laptop> I have the line: auth required pam_unix.so nullok_secure
[16:00] <Mamarok> sczgilae: remove Pulseaudio as much as you can, then remove ~/.kde/share/config/phonondevicesrc and ~/.asound.conf if there is one, restart KDE
[16:00] <dk-laptop> two times in my /etc/pam.d/common-auth
[16:00] <dk-laptop> So the PAM was ask for password two times
[16:00] <Mamarok> sczgilae: then in systemsettings ->multimedia set your soundcard on top (there will probably still be a pulseaudio reference visible, just push it to the bottom)
[16:02] <SandGorgon> !bridging
[16:02] <SandGorgon> !bridge
[16:03] <genii> dk-laptop: Good to see it's sorted out now
[16:04] <dk-laptop> :)
[16:04] <genii> SandGorgon: What is it about bridging you would like to know?
[16:05] <SandGorgon> genii, thanks for asking... i googled for the links ! I was having a Virtualbox question - found it
[16:05] <dk-laptop> Another problem that I'm having is that some times my KDE prograns are incorrectly showed in my monitor. It's haven only with QT prograns, with Gnome stuffs everything is fine
[16:05] <genii> Ah, OK then.
[16:06] <dk-laptop> There's any know issue with Intel Video card with QT library? It's very strange
[16:13] <radi82> j #kubuntu-de
[16:14] <sczgilae>  I have made all of the changed you proposed. But i cant get the audio card to work. When try "test" i dont show any fail message, but doesn't produce any sound any way. More ideas?
[16:15] <sczgilae> mamarok
[16:16] <Mamarok> sczgilae: nothing muted in Kmix?
[16:17] <sczgilae> yes, im looking at that, but now i dont know why dont have kmix menu, and i cant show it :-S
[16:18] <ikonia> !give ikonia a test
[16:18] <ikonia> !uptime
[16:18] <ikonia> mega
[16:18] <Mamarok> sczgilae: in the system tray, right click on the loudspeaker, then "show mixer window"
[16:19] <sczgilae> no loudspeaker in system tray :-S
[16:22] <sczgilae> mamarok, if i search kmix at "k" menu and i click on it pretends to open but nothing do
[16:23] <Mamarok> sczgilae: in a terminal, type killall -9 kmix
[16:23] <Mamarok> sczgilae: then start it again
[16:24] <sczgilae> mamarok: done. same, nothing happens
[16:25] <Mamarok> sczgilae: what KDE do you have?
[16:25] <sczgilae> 9.04
[16:25] <Mamarok> that's Kubuntu, do I guess 4.2.2 for KDE?
[16:25] <sczgilae> yes, the last one
[16:26] <Mamarok> sczgilae: right click on the system tray and edit the system tray settings, go to auto hide
[16:27] <Shadoze> Shadoze test123
[16:27] <Mamarok> Shadoze: do you have a question? just ask it then
[16:27] <Mamarok> sczgilae: Kmix must be selected, else you will never see it
[16:29] <Shadoze> Yeah, upon applying deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main : to my software sources for the new amarok 2.1 , kpackagekit lists it as a blocked update
[16:29] <Shadoze> All information taken from the kubuntu homepage
[16:29] <Mamarok> Shadoze: because you need to add the gpg key for the PPA
[16:30] <Shadoze> i guessed so, any idea where it is?
[16:30] <Mamarok> Shadoze: they gpg key is in http://launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa
[16:31] <sczgilae> mamarok, i dont know why, but when i click on auto hide, i write in the konsole "kmix" and know everything is ok, thank you so much
[16:32] <Mamarok> sczgilae: great :)
[16:32] <tomsdale> how can I check whether kmix has my microphone recognized
[16:32] <tomsdale> supposed to be in a conference call right now and nothing works.
[16:33] <alteroo> tomsdale: Skype?
[16:33] <alteroo> Sorry jumped chan :)
[16:33] <tomsdale> yes
[16:33] <tomsdale> np
[16:33] <alteroo> tomsdale: Go to the audio settings and change them from the Default
[16:34] <alteroo> I don't know why but the default almost never works Change it to almost anything else and do a skype test call
[16:34] <alteroo> Mamarok: Hallo :)
[16:34] <Mamarok> Shadoze: sorry, typo: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa
[16:34] <Mamarok> hi alteroo
[16:35] <alteroo> Mamarok: Would you have time for two small apt issues?
[16:35] <alteroo> Where small doesn't mean that at all
[16:35] <Mamarok> alteroo: ask
[16:36] <alteroo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/189023/
[16:36] <alteroo> What's up with that?
[16:36] <tomsdale> alteroo: alteroo, there is only one option which works. hda intel  (hw:intel,0)
[16:36] <tomsdale> I'm not getting anything in audacity either. I think it'S kmix the problem.
[16:36] <tomsdale> it used to work under alpha 5 ... so weired
[16:37] <Mamarok> alteroo: could you please paste your sources.list? I guess something is wrong there
[16:37] <Mamarok> alteroo: also, which KDE?
[16:39] <Shadoze> Cheers will try it out, mamarok
[16:40] <Mamarok> Shadoze: yaw :)
[16:43] <tomsdale> ah - this is a disaster, now the conference got cancelled. well, I think the system only know the analog input device
[16:43] <tomsdale> damn - I should have looked into this earlier... always last minute.
[16:46] <alteroo> Mamarok: Sorry got called away
[16:46] <alteroo>  KDE 4.3
[16:47] <Mamarok> alteroo: your sources.list: did you change something in it lately?
[16:49] <Mamarok> alteroo: it doesn't make much snes to have 2 different sources for the same package, on of it has packages with different sizes
[16:49] <Mamarok> sense*
[16:49] <Mamarok> one* of it
[16:49] <alteroo> I went to Kpackagekit and Edit sources -> Updates -> Unsupported updates
[16:50] <alteroo> Which is backports. That's where the Kubuntu.org website says it has the Koffice 2.0 final
[16:50] <Mamarok> alteroo: as I said, you have two different sources for the same package, something is wrong there
[16:50] <alteroo> Ok Hold on
[16:51] <Mamarok> alteroo: backports? backports PPA  != regular backports repository
[16:51] <alteroo> Oh!
[16:51] <Mamarok> alteroo: are you using 9.04?
[16:51] <alteroo> Yes
[16:52] <alteroo> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/koffice-2
[16:52] <Mamarok> well, there is a mix up in your sources.list, you need to set this right
[16:52] <alteroo> That sounds pretty clear though
[16:52] <alteroo> http://pastebin.com/f32dd8cd1
[16:53] <igor> !help
[16:54] <Mamarok> alteroo: alteroo line 57 seems to have a space where there should be none
[16:55] <Mamarok> alteroo: nm, my bad, misread the line
[16:55] <alteroo> tomsdale: so it works correctly now?
[16:55] <Mamarok> alteroo: still, you have two sources for the same packages, this can't work, let me check my sources.list
[16:56] <tomsdale> alteroo: nop - still looking into it. thx for your assistence earlier on. Conference got cancelled now anyway. It. It's really confusing
[16:56] <tomsdale> http://rdl.avecstyle.ca/fileadmin/KMix.png
[16:56] <alteroo> Shouldn't one take priority ?
[16:57] <Mamarok> alteroo: are you using apt-get or aptitude?
[16:57] <tomsdale> These are all the options it gives me. hold on - you actually have to make it fullscreen to see what's going on.
[16:57] <alteroo> Apt-get install koffice-kde4
[16:59] <Mamarok> alteroo: try refreshing your cache: sudo apt-get update
[16:59] <alteroo> Did that a few times already but i'll do it again
[17:00] <alteroo> Get an aerror that my PPA don't have GPG keys and thats it
[17:01] <Mamarok> alteroo: well, you can't use the PPA if you do not get that key, this can't work :)
[17:02] <alteroo> none of these packages are from a PPA
[17:02] <alteroo> one is from universe and one is from Jaunty-backports
[17:02] <Mamarok> alteroo: did you try sudo apt-get install koffice-kde4 again
[17:03] <tomsdale> ok - here is a screenshot of KMix with markers in the full glory. How can I find out which of the capture devices is my micro: http://rdl.avecstyle.ca/fileadmin/KMix1.png
[17:04] <Mamarok> alteroo: still, you can not install stuff when you have the gpg key missing, you really should add those
[17:04] <alteroo> Mamarok: The same. Should I remove the backports and install from universe
[17:04] <alteroo> They seem to be the same package numbers
[17:04] <alteroo> Though not the same package it seems
[17:05] <alteroo> Hence the Size mismatch
[17:05] <alteroo> Hmm maybe I'll just remove universe
[17:05] <Mamarok> alteroo: no, koffice2 is not in universe, and it's certainly not universe the problem, more like your mirror server not being up-to-date
[17:05] <Mamarok> alteroo: in doubt, use the main server
[17:06] <Mamarok> tomsdale: hm, there are drop down menus for the mics, what does clicking there give you?
[17:07] <Mamarok> tomsdale: also, did you try to configure the channels in Kmix (Settings menu -Configure channels)?
[17:08] <tomsdale> There is Front Mic and Mic in the dropdown. I think it'S front mic and capture device.
[17:09] <tomsdale> now at least I get a hum in the testcall!. one moment.
[17:10] <Shadoze> Anyone know how to map the Super key to kickoff
[17:11] <Mamarok> Shadoze: Super key?
[17:12] <alteroo> ok I'm going to disable universe then
[17:12] <tomsdale> Is there an application which shows you in the mixer window if there is activity on the channel. like a small meter.
[17:12] <Shadoze> The atrocious "windows flag" key that comes with most keyboards today
[17:12] <Mamarok> alteroo: no, don't, it will cut you off with half of KDE...
[17:13] <Mamarok> alteroo: just change to the main server, this should do it
[17:13] <alteroo> Mamarok: Just for this install
[17:13] <alteroo> I did that still get the same error
[17:13] <Mamarok> Shadoze: that is calle Meta :)
[17:13] <Mamarok> alteroo: just a second...
[17:14] <Mamarok> Shadoze: system settings -> Keyboard¬Mouse, you can change the shortcuts
[17:15] <Mamarok> alteroo: grab those gpg keys, then try again
[17:16] <sparr> After installing 9.04 KDE 3.5 remix knetworkmanager can see "wlan0" as my wifi device instead of the "ath0" that I am used to.  It can see networks, and I can set up a connection with all the right info.  But when I left click the connection (showing good signal), it doesn't do anything, no connection, no error, nothing.  Help?
[17:16] <Mamarok> sparr: there is no support for the KDE3 remix, sorry
[17:17] <Shadoze> His problem is listed in there faq
[17:17] <Shadoze> Mamarok: It would appear you cannot assign a single button a a shortcut :S
[17:17] <Shadoze> It "forces" me to select another button with the command
[17:18] <Mamarok> Shadoze: of course not, as this is not an action key itself in Linux
[17:18] <Mamarok> Shadoze: same for Ctrl, Alt, AltGr and the Menu key
[17:18] <david__> I'm using kmail in Ubuntu, and there's no place to set the spellchecker settings. How do I do this?
[17:19] <Mamarok> david__: which version?
[17:19] <alteroo> sparr: what kind of wifi network?
[17:19] <Mamarok> !kde3
[17:20] <david__> Which version of kmail?
[17:20] <Mamarok> alteroo, sparr please, check the wiki page above
[17:20] <david__> kmail = 1.11.2
[17:21] <Mamarok> david__: thanks, there are so many version, I couldn't guess that :)
[17:21] <david__> kde = 4.2.2
[17:21] <david__> I understand. :)
[17:23] <alteroo> Mamarok: It's the same as hardy which is still supported
[17:23] <Mamarok> david__: hm, I canpt find it neither, maybe ask in #kde
[17:23] <Mamarok> alteroo: read that message above and please respect that
[17:24] <alteroo> Mamarok: well then I guess I'm done here
[17:24] <david__> OK, thanks!
[17:24] <LuisJa> ei guys i have one error installing frostwire with kpackagekit, it says one unknown error is happening, wth?
[17:25] <Shadoze> Details on your error will be shown on the "Show Details" button
[17:25] <Mamarok> alteroo: it's not about you, it's a channel guideline for support, and KDE3 definitely is not officially supported in Jaunty
[17:25] <alteroo> Mamarok: Neither is Koffice-kde4
[17:25] <LuisJa> details: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[17:25] <alteroo> So I guess I'm done here
[17:26] <tuxi> hi, anyone can tell me why amarok 2.1 is blocked?
[17:26] <tomsdale> Ah - here is finally the solution to my sound dilemma. http://rdl.avecstyle.ca/fileadmin/KMix2.png  .You have to select under digital input source "digital mic".
[17:26] <LuisJa> Shadoze: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[17:26] <Mamarok> alteroo: hey, I tried to help you, and KDE4 is supported
[17:27] <alteroo> But not koffice-kde4 it specifically says that
[17:27] <LuisJa> ei guys i have one problem installing frostwire with kpackagekit, it says one error is happening, details: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus), can someone help me pls?
[17:28] <Mamarok> alteroo: this was about a sources problem, don't be picky...
[17:28] <alteroo> Mamarok: Yes for the unsupported repo :)
[17:29] <alteroo> The actual name of it is the unsupported updates
[17:29]  * Mamarok gives up *sigh*
[17:31] <alteroo> but if you'd like to know I got he keys and it still doesn't work
[17:31] <Shadoze> LuisJa: are you installing it from kpackagekit itself, or from a deb file of the net?
[17:32] <LuisJa> Shadoze: well i downloaded the deb from the oficial page and triying to install it with Kpackagekit
[17:34] <sparr> Mamarok: so you want me to waste 8 hours reproducing this issue by installing 8.04 then upgrading everything except KDE to 9.04, then asking the same question?
[17:34] <sparr> alteroo: WPA secured, which knetworkmanager seems to recognize (shows up as foo(WPA) with the lock icon)
[17:34] <Mamarok> sparr: there is a wiki page which tells you how to get support, I just showed you....
[17:35] <alteroo> But removing universe does it seems
[17:36] <alteroo> Mamarok: So I can ask a KDE 4.3 question?
[17:37] <Mamarok> go on, if I can help
[17:37] <alteroo> Akregrator conflicts with kde-icons-oxygen
[17:38] <LuisJa> ei guys i have one problem installing frostwire with kpackagekit, it says one error is happening, details: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus), can someone help me pls?
[17:39] <Mamarok> alteroo: the packages you mean? you will have to overwrite I guess then
[17:39] <sparr> alteroo: the problem, i think, is that im stuck with wlan0 instead of ath0
[17:40] <Mamarok> LuisJa: use sudo dpkg -i frostwireblabla.deb on a command line
[17:41] <LuisJa> Mamarok:
[17:41] <LuisJa>  http://www.freenode.net:
[17:41] <LuisJa>     irc.freenode.net
[17:41] <LuisJa> lol that no
[17:41] <LuisJa> Mamarok:
[17:41] <LuisJa> Preparando para reemplazar frostwire 4.18.0 (usando frostwire-4.18.0.i586.deb) ...
[17:41] <LuisJa> Desempaquetando el reemplazo de frostwire ...
[17:41] <LuisJa> dpkg: problemas de dependencias impiden la configuración de frostwire:
[17:41] <LuisJa>  frostwire depende de sun-java6-bin; sin embargo:
[17:41] <LuisJa>   El paquete `sun-java6-bin' no está instalado.
[17:41] <LuisJa> dpkg: error al procesar frostwire (--install):
[17:41] <LuisJa>  problemas de dependencias - se deja sin configurar
[17:41] <LuisJa> Se encontraron errores al procesar:
[17:42] <LuisJa>  frostwire
[17:42] <alteroo> Mamarok: dpkg -i thingy.deb --force-overwrite?
[17:42] <Mamarok> !paste | LuisJa
[17:43] <Mamarok> alteroo: I suppose so, but as KDE 4.3 is officially part of Karmic, this would be a question for #ubuntu+1 :)
[17:43] <alteroo> Even for the ppa ?
[17:43] <Mamarok> LuisJa: in English and use a pastebin, please
[17:43] <LuisJa> u can help or not??
[17:43] <Mamarok> alteroo: ...
[17:44] <alteroo> Mamarok: I'm using the Jaunty PPA
[17:44] <Mamarok> LuisJa: calm down
[17:44] <alteroo> Everything installed except for akregator
[17:44] <Mamarok> alteroo: read what I said above...
[17:44] <LuisJa> then...
[17:45] <Mamarok> LuisJa: you need to install java it says, no?
[17:45] <LuisJa> already installed
[17:45] <LuisJa> before all this
[17:48] <Mamarok> LuisJa: then I don't know, but why not ask in #kubuntu-es as you have the output in Spanish?
[17:48] <Mamarok> LuisJa: and you need that particular java package installed, not just any java
[17:49] <LuisJa> sun-java6-bin is not found in the repos
[17:53] <nana_austine> plz can some1 help me out here. earlier today i was finding problems opening my desktop folders in ubunut. and i restarted my laptop. afterwards, all the file on my desktop seem to have disappeared. can anyone help. please!
[17:53] <genii> !es | LuisJa
[17:54] <nana_austine> when i open my desktop folder all i see in the trash can
[17:54] <LuisJa> i know english... the thing is that my system settings r in spanish
[17:54] <LuisJa> let me change that
[17:59] <m4v> LuisJa: sun-java6-bin is in the repos, but you need to enable multiverse
[18:00] <Mamarok> nana_austine: you should tell us which Kubuntu version you are talking about for start
[18:00] <nana_austine> kubuntu 9.04
[18:01] <Mamarok> could somebody check with nana_austine, please? I have to go
[18:03] <LuisJa> my problem is solved, i used synaptic to download my java package and install frostwire :)
[18:04] <nana_austine> plz can some1 help me out all the files on my desktop have disappeared
[18:04] <nana_austine> i am not sure what exactly happened
[18:04] <Shadoze> How do you have it setup, under appearance settings theres two options, Folder View and Desktop View
[18:05] <nana_austine> desktop view
[18:06] <nana_austine> the only thing that shows up is a file named home.desktop and the trash can
[18:07] <Shadoze> Ok, so those are the only links in your home/"username"/Desktop file too?
[18:08] <nana_austine> yeah
[18:09] <nana_austine> these are the only files i see Home.desktop  trash.desktop
[18:10] <nana_austine> anybody there to help????
[18:11] <alteroo> nana_austine: is there suppoed to be anythign else there?
[18:12] <alteroo> sparr: ifconfig shows  a ath0 ?
[18:21] <BOZG> Anyone having problems in Jaunty 64bit where the plasmoids disappear as well as the window titles and icons in the panel?
[18:24] <toby> I'm trying to install amarok 2.1 as per http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.1 but am not getting anywhere.
[18:24] <Eurysilas> Having some trouble with Amarok from Hardy. It's not recognizing all of my tags, nor is it recognizing .oga files. What's worse, attempting to edit some of the tags in my ogg files is resulting in corrupt files. Any pointers, or do I need to upgrade?
[18:26] <BOZG> toby: What's the problem?
[18:26] <BOZG> Not updating?
[18:28] <toby> BOZG: Not automatically, no. i can see 2.1 if i search for amarok, though. when i select it to install, it says i have to uninstall amarok-kde4 first.
[18:28] <BOZG> Try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:28] <BOZG> Seems to have worked for some people.
[18:29] <icewind> I have a problem, since the upgrade to 9.04 alsa isn't working anymore
[18:31] <BOZG> toby: Also, you could just uninstall amarok-kde4 too :P
[18:32] <toby> BOZG: i'm worried that it'll take some settings with it if i do that
[18:33] <toby> BOZG: do i need ot tick "proposed" or "unsupported", do you think/
[18:33] <BOZG> Unsupported
[18:33] <BOZG> Try the dist-upgrade.
[18:34] <BOZG> It worked for someone earlier.
[18:34] <BOZG> Trying to find the thread that it was discussed in now.
[18:34] <BOZG> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?action=printpage;topic=3104322.0
[18:35] <toby> I did try that, no joy. apt-get update gives some warnings about missing gpg keys but, they're just warnings right?
[18:35] <BOZG> Yeah.
[18:35] <BOZG> That was the problem I had.
[18:35] <BOZG> I finally installed it via Add/Remove
[18:35] <BOZG> Try it in there.
[18:35] <BOZG> And select to upgrade.
[18:35] <BOZG> It worked for me without removing settings or having to remove amarok-kde4.
[18:36] <toby> BOZG: Okay, I'll try. thanks for the tip. have to go now and bathe my son! I'll try that later :D
[18:36] <toby> BOZG: Thanks
[18:36] <BOZG> No problem and good luck.
[18:37]  * Eurysilas wonders if anybody even still uses Hardy.
[18:37] <genii> Eurysilas: I do.
[18:37] <Eurysilas> KDE?
[18:38] <genii> Eurysilas: 3.5.10
[18:38] <Zafer233> did anyone figure out about koffice from the package manager?
[18:39] <Shadoze> Anyone know how to auto align icons in the desktop
[18:39] <alteroo> Is there anyway to boost the sound above 100% ?
[18:39] <Eurysilas> genii: Ever have any trouble with Amarok not recognizing certain tag entries and utterly failing to find .oga files?
[18:39] <genii> Eurysilas: Nope, or I would have already offered to look into your issue :)
[18:39] <alteroo> Or have a system wide equalizer that doesn't top out at 0.0 db ?
[18:40] <ajavid> I have not file bug yet
[18:40] <ajavid> be lazy
[18:41] <Eurysilas> genii: I'm hoping I don't have to upgrade, or strip all the tags, or, $DIETY forbid, re-encode.......:(
[18:41] <ajavid> !bug
[18:41] <ajavid> alteroo, which package it is
[18:42] <ajavid> alteroo, you think its the ccsm package
[18:42] <ajavid> probably not
[18:42] <ajavid> the package that installs the compizconfig.so in /opt should install a link for it in the main python dist
[18:42] <ajavid> so i should file bug on that package?
[18:42] <ajavid> or what exactly
[18:43] <alteroo> ajavid: yes on that package
[18:56] <ajavid> "compizconfig-python-kde3" does not exist in Ubuntu. Please choose a different package. If you're unsure, please select "I don't know"
[18:56] <ajavid> its not in kubuntu?
[18:57] <ajavid> is kde3 supported on ubuntu?
[18:57] <genii> ajavid: On 8.04 but no later versions
[18:58] <ajavid> so
[18:58] <ajavid> kde3 remix is not supported in kubuntu?
[18:58] <ajavid> thats sad
[18:59] <ajavid> UnreportableReason: This is not a genuine Ubuntu package
[18:59] <genii> ajavid: It is not an official release. It's a separate release by the pearson computing people.
[18:59] <ajavid> *sigh*
[18:59] <ajavid> so I wasted my time filing a bug
[18:59] <ajavid> nobody cares...
[18:59] <ajavid> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/384021
[19:00] <genii> ajavid: File one instead with the author: http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/
[19:00] <ajavid> nah
[19:01] <ajavid> I'm alright. I'll support myself.
[19:01] <ajavid> since debian and ubuntu turned their backs on me
[19:01] <ajavid> there is so much old unmaintained software still in the repositories, and yet kde3 is deprecated
[19:02] <genii> ajavid: The KDE team has moved on to the next release. So 3 will die anyhow.
[19:02] <alteroo> Wow I thought that #kde was the most busy dead channel around #ubuntu+1 might actually beat it
[19:02] <alteroo> genii: It may
[19:03] <ajavid> KDE team should be ashamed of itself
[19:03] <ajavid> those are my sincere feelings atm.
[19:03] <ajavid> this makes a sad panda :(
[19:03] <alteroo> ajavid: In what way?
[19:03] <genii> ajavid: When KDE went from 2.x  to release 3 it was the same. But you don't see many people running KDE2 anymore now. Same thing will eventually happen.
[19:03] <Shadoze> This is an open source community, people are not paid to help, infact noone has to help atall, everyone here is a volunteer
[19:04] <bbeck> I've got the KDE 4.3 Beta packages installed, and everything is wonderful, but I can't get weather plasmoids to work.  Has anyone had this problem, and know of a solution?
[19:04] <genii> Shadoze: I work for coffee! :)
[19:04] <ajavid> genii, I understand
[19:04] <ajavid> but kde3 was better than 2.x
[19:04] <ajavid> kde4 is garbage.
[19:04] <Shadoze> 4 isn't as mature as 3
[19:05] <ajavid> nah its not garbage, its just buggy as all hell
[19:05] <alteroo> genii: That's different KDE 3 was an offshoot or a polishing of KDE2 KDE4 is very little related to KDE3 other than idealogy
[19:05] <ajavid> and doesn't work like kde3 in the functionality i require
[19:05] <Shadoze> You can't honestly compare them
[19:05] <Shadoze> Kde 3 has been aruond for years and years
[19:05] <Shadoze> kde 4, has not
[19:05] <ajavid> yes it has
[19:06] <ajavid> 3 years at least
[19:06] <Shadoze> kde 3 has been as ironed out as an ironing board, kde 4 hasn't been yet
[19:06] <alteroo> ajavid: one year
[19:06] <ajavid> nope
[19:06] <Shadoze> ajdavid, kde 3 at least 7 years
[19:06] <Shadoze> big difference there
[19:06] <ajavid> at least 2 if nothing
[19:06] <ajavid> 2.5 i'd say
[19:06] <ajavid> eitherway I'm just argh.
[19:07] <alteroo> ajavid: but honestly the "KDE" team isn't a them situation If you want to see KDE3 alive then rally support for it. The KDe3 repos are open for people to maintain and improve them as long as they like
[19:07] <ajavid> yes im not in #kde
[19:07] <ajavid> this is #kubuntu
[19:07] <Shadoze> Sigh, what do you think kubuntu is built upon?
[19:07] <ajavid> and the linux for humans should consider for the humans who ilke kde3
[19:07] <genii> ajavid: 8.04 which comes with KDE3 remains supported until 2011. So no lack of support on it anytime soon.
[19:07] <ajavid> I think kubuntu should maintain kde3 at least
[19:08] <ajavid> officially
[19:08] <genii> ajavid: We do. Until 2011. On 8.04 only
[19:08] <ajavid> maybe for aonther release or two
[19:08] <ajavid> genii, oh
[19:08] <alteroo> ajavid: Right but you said hte KDE team should be ashamed not hte kubuntu team
[19:08] <ajavid> ohhh I see
[19:08] <ajavid> alteroo, yes, it should
[19:08] <ajavid> its like the vista of linux
[19:09] <alteroo> ajavid: ha ha :-)
[19:09] <ajavid> (4.x that is)
[19:09] <ajavid> :D
[19:09] <alteroo> 4.0 maybe
[19:09] <Shadoze> kde is not riddled with drm software and other nightmares
[19:09] <alteroo> 4.2 is usable by a majority
[19:09] <alteroo> ajavid: incidentally what functionality are you missing?
[19:09] <ajavid> in kde4?
[19:10] <alteroo> yes
[19:10] <ajavid> desktop mouse click configuration
[19:10] <ajavid> no panels
[19:10] <Shadoze> No panels?
[19:10] <ajavid> no icons onthing
[19:10] <ajavid> nope
[19:10] <alteroo> can't you do no panels in KDE4?
[19:10] <ajavid> also, missing kcontrol
[19:11] <alteroo> pretty sure you can
[19:11] <alteroo> ajavid: What in kcontrol ?
[19:11] <Shadoze> System Settings now
[19:11] <ajavid> not down with it
[19:11] <alteroo> ajavid: So far everything you have said can be done
[19:11] <ajavid> no it can't
[19:12] <bbeck> ajavid: did I read that properly you don't have panels in KDE4?
[19:12] <ajavid> can you make it so that if you rihgclick desktop for windowlist menu
[19:12] <ajavid> or left click for application menu
[19:12] <ajavid> or middle click for desktop menu
[19:12] <alteroo> ajavid: No he doesn't have panels in KDE3 he wants that to keep up in KDE4
[19:12] <alteroo> ajavid: in SVN
[19:12] <ajavid> ahh
[19:12] <ajavid> fantastic
[19:12] <ajavid> so not much longer
[19:12] <alteroo> Chani Armatige is working on it
[19:13] <ajavid> ahhhh boy, kde4 could e usesable now
[19:13] <ajavid> god bless him
[19:13] <alteroo> ajavid: 8 more months :-P
[19:13] <alteroo> Her
[19:13] <ajavid> I dont' believe in god
[19:13] <ajavid> but belss him
[19:13] <ajavid> her
[19:13] <ajavid> whatever
[19:13] <ajavid> chani
[19:13] <ajavid> I know her
[19:13] <alteroo> Yes you do I would wager if you follow anything with KDE dev
[19:13] <ajavid> i bug her all the time about her namesake from Dune
[19:14] <alteroo> ha ha Yes that's correct
[19:14] <snarkster> i need alittle help configureing vts on my tv
[19:14] <alteroo> so ok anything else that's missing?
[19:14] <ajavid> thanks guys
[19:14] <ajavid> afk
[19:14] <snarkster> all i get is a small bar on the right side that is totally garbled
[19:14] <alteroo> ajavid: Let me not be assured in my saying that. I think that you can delete the first panel form the config file
[19:14] <alteroo> I've not tried but it should be able to be deleted
[19:14] <snarkster> isnt there a option called tty sane or something like that
[19:15] <ajavid> oh
[19:15] <ajavid> also i like kde3 cuz i can use compiz with it
[19:15] <alteroo> ajavid: So you may not be out of the woods yet but that should easily be doable If it's forced I think that's against the idea of Plasma so probably not going to stick around
[19:15] <ajavid> i can't with kde4, and the kde4 effects are missing a lot
[19:15] <alteroo> ajavid: you ... can't?
[19:15] <ajavid> scale is misisng, and expo
[19:16] <alteroo> Both of those are in KDE4
[19:16] <ajavid> alteroo, it doesn't launch complains another window manger
[19:16] <ajavid> i know
[19:16] <alteroo> Wait which one is scale?
[19:16] <ajavid> compiz effects built into kde4 but those are good enough
[19:16] <ajavid> they arenot configurable enough either
[19:16] <ajavid> and missing a lot of the extras/unsupported plugins
[19:16] <alteroo> ajavid: Did you go to Default applications in System Settings? compiz is there as a choice for default window manager
[19:16] <ajavid> so only desire is to run compiz on kde4, but can't, it won't make it
[19:16] <ajavid> I used kde4 a while ago
[19:17] <ajavid> maybe now you can
[19:17] <alteroo> ajavid: Agreed there. They aren't as configurable but then I don't like compiz since it's a lab not a product but that has it's own fun side
[19:17] <alteroo> ajavid: In any case hop in around 10.04 Pretty much everything that you have said should be shipped by then.
[19:18] <ajavid> this is my first time on ubuntu really
[19:18] <alteroo> 1/2 of it works now the rest is already working but still in testing
[19:18] <ajavid> i using debian sid for 8-9 years
[19:18] <ajavid> fulltime, every othermachien is debian
[19:18] <alteroo> then they dropped KDE3? :)
[19:18] <ajavid> my desktop needs kde3 so i iuse kubuntu remix
[19:18] <ajavid> yeh
[19:18] <ajavid> they betrayed me
[19:18] <ajavid> I still maintain pckages for it
[19:18] <ajavid> try to become a dd, but damit, until then my opinion don't matter
[19:18] <alteroo> ajavid: Well if you would like to help Kubuntu KDE3 I can get you in contact with the "team"
[19:19] <ajavid> I can't dig kubuntu
[19:19] <alteroo> Where team is one guy
[19:19] <ajavid> I have a lot of beef with ubuntu in general
[19:19] <alteroo> sure you can dig kubuntu.org
[19:19] <alteroo> Gives me a result :)
[19:19] <ajavid> if i discuss it, people will give me trouble
[19:19] <ajavid> I'd rathe rnot
[19:19] <alteroo> ajavid: you can discuss it in #kubuntu-offtopic
[19:19] <ajavid> well im hungry too
[19:19] <ajavid> discuss vs food
[19:19] <ajavid> hmm... I'm a hungry man.
[19:20] <ajavid> food wins man.
[19:20] <ajavid> man loses food.
[19:20] <ajavid> I mean.. wait.. I man, will gain food, but you will not, right?
[19:20] <ajavid> *afk*
[19:20] <alteroo> man food
[19:20] <alteroo> no manual entry for food
[19:21] <alteroo> Auto feed initiated
[19:21] <alteroo> nomnomnomnomnomnom
[19:24] <Shadoze> Anyone know a quick way to renew my ip?
[19:24] <jussi01> Shadoze: why?
[19:25] <Shadoze> I need to test a forums permissions
[19:25] <Shadoze> I could reboot my router but surely theres a faster way
[19:25] <alteroo> Shadoze: sudo dhclient ?
[19:27] <Shadoze> Renewal in 696 seconds was the last message
[19:27] <alteroo> Isn't there a way to drag a window to the edge of the desktop and have it slide to the next one?
[19:27] <alteroo> Shadoze: do you want a fully new IP address?
[19:27] <alteroo> The router is likely to give you teh same one
[19:27] <Shadoze> yes
[19:27] <Shadoze> on win i would do ipconfig /release then ipconfig /renew
[19:28] <radi82> alteroo: Yes, you have to activate the windowborders first.
[19:28] <alteroo> radi82: thats in Alt+F3 -> window properties?
[19:29] <alteroo> I remembered it being in there but I dont see it now
[19:31] <radi82> alteroo: no. in the Systemsettings somewhere. i'll look it up...
[19:32] <testesti> hi
[19:32] <alteroo> radi82: Found it :)
[19:32] <radi82> alteroo: k ;)
[19:32] <alteroo> radi82: it looks waaaaaay better in KDE 4.3
[19:33] <alteroo> I'm going to waste 1/2 the day moving things around just to see the sliding arrows popup
[19:33] <radi82> lol
[19:33] <alteroo> ajavid: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/status/meeting-organizer.png', which is also in package kde-icons-oxygen
[19:33] <alteroo> ajavid: http://imagebin.ca/view/AodVMv.html
[19:33] <alteroo> Whoops :)
[19:34] <LuisJa> lately my kubuntu is freezing too much
[19:34] <LuisJa> dont know whats happening
[19:36] <ajavid> alright
[19:36] <ajavid> well
[19:36] <ajavid> I'm going back to debian
[19:37] <ajavid> sorry
[19:37] <ajavid> I'm just gonna go back to sid, install kde4, and help find bugs and make it better
[19:37] <ajavid> at least I'd be doing some good
[19:40] <LuisJa> lately my kubuntu is freezing too much
[19:40] <LuisJa> dont know whats happening
[19:40] <LuisJa> i installed it with wubi, thats wrong?
[19:41] <LuisJa> like 4 weeks ago than i have kubuntu installed
[19:41] <alteroo> what time is lately?
[19:51] <drurew> can someone diagnostic the following term for me please ( there is one eth port available ) : eth20
[19:53] <oobe> drurew, would help if you said where you get that term from
[19:53] <drurew> a more specific question: how do I rename eth20 to be eth0
[19:53] <radi82> From time to time my KDE 4.2 completley criples the text in a window. Resizing that window fixes this problem then. Has anyone any idea how to get rid of this?
[19:56] <drurew> output of ifconfig read eth19 before my last init.d/networking restart. After restart ifconfig outputs eth20. I havent used my eth port in months so its kind of a stumbler to find eth0 to be eth20.
[20:01] <LuisJa> lately my kubuntu is freezing too much
[20:01] <LuisJa> dont know whats happening
[20:01] <LuisJa> i installed it with wubi, thats wrong?
[20:01] <LuisJa> like 4 weeks ago than i have kubuntu installed
[20:01] <LuisJa> can someone help me?
[20:04] <alteroo> LuisJa: What is lately?
[20:05] <LuisJa> freezing, horribly
[20:05] <LuisJa> stop working
[20:05] <LuisJa> i hve to manually stop
[20:05] <LuisJa> and shutdown
[20:05] <LuisJa> becomes slow as hell
[20:05] <LuisJa> :(
[20:07] <Mamarok> LuisJa: did you check the wubi bugs on Launchpad?
[20:07] <Mamarok> !wubi | LuisJa
[20:07] <Mamarok> LuisJa: the last line in particular
[20:07] <LuisJa> thx
[20:14] <Shadoze_> Does anyone else experience slow moving to the trash regardless of file size?
[20:14] <Shadoze_> yet shit & del deletes it VERY fast
[20:16] <drurew> Shadoze_: maybe shift del pipes the rm command ?
[20:17] <Shadoze_> Possibly, but i've heard alot of people complain that moving a file to the trash takes a long time
[20:17] <drurew> I just used the rm command
[20:17] <drurew> ;)
[20:18] <Shadoze_> 2byte file took two seconds
[20:20] <drurew> would anyone know how to find the original HWADDR for my ethernet port
[20:21] <Pici> drurew: Its not listed on ifconfig?
[20:23] <drurew> Pici: i had fiddled with wmaster a while back, im experiencing this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=697807
[20:24] <nightmare> Hi there
[20:25] <genii> drurew: I suspect it would be listed in the file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules look for eth0
[20:25] <drurew> Pici: according to ifconfig, my hardware address is :HWaddr 00:00:6c:cb:e0:09 , wmaster shows; HWaddr 00-1F-1F-18-F0-43-30-34-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
[20:26] <genii> drurew: wmaster is the usb host of your adapter
[20:32] <alteroo> Does anyone know how to boost the sound from the sound card?
[20:32] <alteroo> in software
[20:32] <drurew> alteroo: have you tried alsamixer in your terminal ?
[20:33] <alteroo> drurew: yes though I would like someone with a VIA ac97 soundcard to look at alsa mixer and tell me if they see the same thing I do
[20:34] <drurew> i have an nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler
[20:34] <drurew> we have the same chipset
[20:34]  * alteroo shrugs close enough
[20:35] <alteroo> look at the master volume and qt 100% what's the db Offset?
[20:36] <drurew> dB gain=-6.00, -6.00
[20:36] <alteroo> -6?
[20:36] <alteroo> wow
[20:36] <alteroo> where is 0.0 db gain then?
[20:37] <drurew> my master reads 81 %
[20:37] <alteroo> And it's aceptably loud for you?
[20:37] <alteroo> Without hardware gain?
[20:37] <drurew> i have a good amp
[20:37] <alteroo> :)
[20:37] <drurew> ;)
[20:38] <alteroo> Hence my specification without hardware gain
[20:38] <drurew> at 100% reads Master [dB gain=3.00, 3.00]
[20:39] <alteroo> :-(
[20:39] <alteroo> that sucks mine is 0.0 at 100%
[20:39] <KDesk> When I try to hibernate, the pc shutsdown for a second, but then it starts automatly again. Is this a known software problem? What can I do?
[20:39] <drurew> mone reads null to 94%
[20:39] <drurew> *mine
[20:40] <alteroo> mine -s like -22 at 55
[20:41] <Nixx> Name of the Package Manager in kubuntu?
[20:41] <alteroo> Nixx: Which kubuntu are you using?
[20:41] <drurew> kpackagemanager
[20:42] <Nixx> Nothing,, I just ask becuase I meybee will try kubuntu...
[20:42] <alteroo> Nixx: Oh in that case use whatever you like
[20:42] <Nixx> But the cool with Ubuntu is Synaptic...
[20:42] <slow-motion> hi
[20:42] <alteroo> apt-get aptitude synaptic Gpackagekit Kpackagekit adept etc
[20:42] <Nixx> But what is standard?
[20:43] <alteroo> kpackagekit
[20:43] <Nixx> okay
[20:43] <Nixx> But work Synaptic 100% in kubuntu?
[20:43] <Nixx> KDE 4.1
[20:43] <drurew> 100% true
[20:44] <Nixx> oki
[20:44] <Nixx> And aptitude install allso is the same in kubuntu? :)
[20:44] <drurew> the terminals and kernels are the same
[20:44] <Nixx> okay..
[20:44] <drurew> they both use bash
[20:45] <Nixx> thes
[20:45] <Nixx> *yes
[20:45] <Nixx> kubuntu vs Windows 7?
[20:45] <drurew> and apt-get, aptitude, wget asl well as gnome work the same on kubuntu
[20:46] <drurew> what is windows
[20:46] <drurew> ?
[20:46] <Nixx> kubuntu is not to mee but to a friend, i myself use Arch Linux.
[20:46] <KDesk> windows 7 is win 3.1 plush patches and vista look hehe
[20:47] <alteroo> KDesk: more like Windows NT 3 plus patches
[20:47] <alteroo> But the patches came from Windows 3.1 I agree
[20:48] <KDesk> alteroo: exacly, you know :)
[20:48] <KDesk> Realy, just look at some dialogs, like add fonts, it is the same from win95.
[20:48] <alteroo> Nixx: But what was your question?
[20:48] <KDesk> and the panel, it is a compy from kde 3.5 and 4
[20:49] <drurew> stealing kde potentials
[20:49] <jussi01> !ot
[20:59] <sil3nt|warri0r> #fedora
[21:00] <JuJuBee> Can someone suggest a program to recover deleted files?
[21:01] <phh> JuJuBee: photorec, e2undel
[21:02] <drurew1> JuJuBee:have they been written over ?
[21:03] <crichardso> anyone here usint 9.04 with an intel vid with dual monitors?
[21:03] <crichardso> i dont see a way to dynamicaly setup the multiple montors
[21:03] <drurew1> crichardso: whats your graphics chipset
[21:04] <crichardso> good question hold on
[21:04] <crichardso> drurew: GM965/GL960
[21:04] <drurew1> crichardso: can you give me lspci ?
[21:05] <crichardso> that was from lspci
[21:05] <crichardso> you want the whole thing
[21:05] <drurew1> no just the card name and family
[21:05] <drurew1> its intel isnt it
[21:05] <crichardso> drurew: http://pastebin.ca/1449041
[21:06] <crichardso> ya
[21:06] <drurew1> I went straight for an nvidia card
[21:06] <drurew1> but lets see what we can find
[21:06] <crichardso> i read that there was a missing part of the display setup screen but i havent see any other posts about it
[21:07] <crichardso> i wish i would have gone with nvadia
[21:07] <crichardso> but the company told me to cut the price of the laptop
[21:07] <drurew1> are you using a dual port card or some different configuration ?
[21:08] <crichardso> and the prob i have is when i bring it home it is still trying to use both monitors so i cant see 1/2 my stuff when it isnt connected to my external monitor
[21:08] <lxuser__> i am using kubuntu 9.04 with kde latest update 4.2.4
[21:08] <lxuser__> but wifi not working
[21:08] <lxuser__> :(
[21:08] <crichardso> drurew: it is a laptop 1 ext vga port
[21:08] <lxuser__> it was working with 4.2.2
[21:09] <alteroo> blessedbeef!
[21:10] <lxuser__> i also did a kernel update
[21:12] <drurew1> crichardso: i went this way before http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21600.html. Describing two separate devices to xorg.conf however i cant be much more helpfull than that :(
[21:13] <drurew1> but im almost sure theres a sipler way than that
[21:13] <drurew1> *simpler
[21:14] <crichardso> ya i got mine setup via xorg but i was looking for a simpler/auto detect cause it really is a pain when you take your laptop from work(ext monitor) to on the road just normal screen
[21:15] <alexshenoy> okay i understand, it makes a Ui class with a Dialog widget and all teh widgets declared in there
[21:15] <alexshenoy> that actually makes a lot of sense
[21:16] <drurew1> crichardso: have you checked you restricted drivers app ?
[21:16] <ct529> any suggestion for building a very performant pc with kubuntu?
[21:17] <crichardso> hmm note sure what u mean
[21:17] <ct529> I have not found any good (k)ubuntu based benchmark ....
[21:17] <alteroo> ct529: Cause benchmarking a GUI is very hard and mostly silly?
[21:18] <thatdude1> Hey guys is there a portable version of firefox for ubuntu? Or how can I run a portable version on a flash drive that does not use the local computers settings/profile and preferably does not write to disk? Thanks
[21:18] <alteroo> ct529: Unless you mean just bechmarking the computer in which case check out phronoix
[21:18] <ct529> alteroo: where did you see GUI in my message?
[21:18] <drurew1> crichardso: in your menu settings -hardware drivers
[21:18] <alteroo> ct529: Mixed message but in any case see my second response :)
[21:19] <crichardso> drurew1: ah ya nothen in there but my wireless
[21:20] <alteroo> I think they have a suite that ships in koala but it's easily installable on debian/ubuntu in any case
[21:21] <JuJuBee> drurew1: I have done nothing since the oops.
[21:22] <ct529> alteroo: very nice thanks that is what I was looking for!!!!
[21:22] <thatdude1> Hey guys, does the Ubuntu live cd write ANY data to ANY hard disk or does EVERYTHING truely run from RAM? is there any data whatsoever that is written to a local hard drive? Could i then run the live cd on  a pc with all hdds discconected? Thanks
[21:22] <alteroo> ct529: You are welcome I had the same reaction when they put it out as well
[21:23] <alteroo> thatdude1: Yes there is
[21:23] <alteroo> On two occasions
[21:23] <drurew1> crichardso: restarting X dosnt help ?
[21:23] <thatdude1> alteroo, what you were answering my first question regarding a portable firefox?
[21:24] <sil3nt|warri0r> any help ?
[21:25] <jussi01> !ask | sil3nt|warri0r
[21:25] <alteroo> thatdude1: Well that's true as well but the response was to the Live Cd writing to the hard drive
[21:25] <JuJuBee> drurew1: any ideas on recovery?
[21:25] <thatdude1> alteroo, so what does it write to the hdd? and could you tell me where to get or how to make a portable version of firefox for ubuntu? thanks
[21:26] <sil3nt|warri0r> i have updated my kde to 4.2.4, but my wifi is not working now, the drives says its activated but not is use
[21:26] <sil3nt|warri0r> its broadcom bcm4322
[21:27] <drurew1> JuJuBee: i cant name an "off the shelf" application to restore deleted files. i did however find this :http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-367510.html . good luck ;)
[21:28] <alteroo> thatdude1: the instructions for a portable firefox are the same just using a linux firefox build from mozilla instead of a Windows one but htey should have some packages made already somewhere. The live Cd writes to the HDD when it detects a swap partition and runs out of Real RAM and when you click the install button and walk through the wizard (HAHA Didn't see that coming did ya?)
[21:28] <thatdude1> alteroo haha...
[21:29] <thatdude1> alteroo i dont now what instructions you are talking about
[21:29] <thatdude1> if i download the .tar from mozilla and run firefox it runs using my profile/settings/bookmarks/plugins of my local pc user..
[21:30] <alteroo> thatdude1: Right you need to change the to be local to the installation. If you go to portable apps they have instructions snce Firefox was the first big portable app
[21:30] <thatdude1> but the portable apps is for windows only....
[21:30] <alteroo> thatdude1: But I've had no HDD in my computer for two weeks and have been using the live CD to do work
[21:31] <alteroo> thatdude1: Yes but the Firefox build is basically variables that say Windows or Linux. It saves info to the same place in windows as it does with Linux
[21:31] <LuisJa> hello i have one problem, i just downloaded red alert 2 from frostwire and its running perfectly fine with wine, except for some speed problem, there is a way to fix this, and is this one, but i dont understand anything about it, can someone explain it pls?:
[21:31] <alteroo> LuisJa: #winehq
[21:34] <LuisJa> hello i have one problem, i just downloaded red alert 2 from frostwire and its running perfectly fine with wine, except for some speed problem, there is a way to fix this, and is this one: http://pastebin.com/m5a208010, but i dont understand anything about it, can someone explain it pls?
[21:35] <cjae> ok how do I get the gpg for http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main, I can see the key, but do not know the command to install it
[21:35] <cjae> Mamarok,
[21:37] <drurew1> LuisJa:the how to is there, what do you want to know
[21:38] <workspace3> hello :^D
[21:42] <rmrfslash> Hahah I was just told to leave the #macosx chan because I was beginning a conversation about open source
[21:46] <cjae> ok I ve looked this whole thing over and do not see anything about adding gpg keys just about making your own
[21:47] <alteroo> rmrfslash: doesn't sound like them
[21:48] <cjae> ok I ve looked this whole thing over and do not see anything about adding gpg keys just about making your own https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[21:48] <alteroo> cjae: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <key id>
[21:50] <cjae> alteroo, ok how for http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/Release.gpg
[21:51] <alteroo> Go to the PPA's website and it should have the Key ID there
[21:51] <alteroo> Otherwise sudo apt-get update and it will throw an error the key ID is in the error
[21:51] <cjae> alteroo, ok
[21:52] <LuisJa> dru_rew: i dont understand that of the directories etc
[21:52] <LuisJa> hello i have one problem, i just downloaded red alert 2 from frostwire and its running perfectly fine with wine, except for some speed problem, there is a way to fix this, and is this one: http://pastebin.com/m5a208010, but i dont understand anything about it, can someone explain it pls?
[21:53] <alteroo> LuisJa: Did you ask in #winehq ?
[21:53] <alteroo> They are the best ones to help
[21:53] <LuisJa> yes
[21:54] <LuisJa> no answer
[21:54] <Neremor> hello!
[21:54] <Neremor> My Kubuntu 9.04 isn't recognizing inserted DVDs
[21:54] <cjae> alteroo, thanks worked :)
[21:55] <Neremor> only ever 20th try it is shown as an inserted disc
[21:56] <alteroo> >_<
[22:00] <dru_rew>  LuisJa: find out where wine creates its "c" directory, then you will need to make a file there (proably as root) edit it to contain that code in your pastebin...then open terminal and : wine regedit...and i think you have the rest there :)
[22:05] <serbuntu> buenas
[22:09] <dru_rew>  LuisJa: that fix is for windows, it wont work on *buntu
[22:09] <LuisJa> HQ guys r already helping me, thx anyways :)
[22:10] <dru_rew> (H)
[22:10] <dru_rew> 8-)
[22:10] <vit> : )(
[22:16] <RProgrammer> So uh, KDE decided to not start anymore, and I don't have a spare computer
[22:17] <bfarah> my cam works fine with coamorma and skype but not kopete, any ideas?
[22:17] <bfarah> anybody got the same problem b4?
[22:17] <alteroo> bfarah: Yes Kopete is broken
[22:17] <bfarah> alright, :(
[22:17] <bfarah> any similar program that can use cam with msn?
[22:17] <alteroo> last I heard someone was working on it but I don't know if that got into KDE 4.3
[22:18] <alteroo> !info kmess
[22:18] <alteroo> Ugh
[22:18] <alteroo> Look for kmess 2.0 :)
[22:18] <robin0800> RProgrammer: put your disk in and reboot and then choose repair
[22:18] <JontheEchidna> !info kmess karmic
[22:18] <RProgrammer> robin0800: Ok, but GNOME sessions work fine
[22:20] <robin0800> RProgrammer: you could try and reinstall kde-desktop
[22:20] <bfarah> can i use my webcam with kmess??
[22:22] <slow-motion> n8
[22:23] <alteroo> JontheEchidna: have you ever had KDE just ignore the keyboard for like 5 minutes?
[22:23] <JontheEchidna> nope
[22:24] <alteroo> It's annoying :(
[22:29] <templaedhel> hello, I have ubuntu 8.10, and have been using gnome forever, I recently got kde, and I like it except I can't get my native resolution (1920x1080) to work, it has been working fine in gnome, so I don't think its an xorg issue
[22:30] <kisbence> hi
[22:30] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, can you set it in System Settings > Display?
[22:31] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: that's where I'm trying to set it from, but my resolution is not listed
[22:31] <jerald> hi
[22:32] <jerald> here I'm trying to set it from, but my resolution is not listed
[22:32] <jerald> hi there ?
[22:32] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, do you mind posting your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[22:33] <jerald> i have installed kubuntu 9.04 inside windows
[22:33] <jerald> but i have a seperate kubuntu 8.10 in different partition
[22:34] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: ok
[22:34] <templaedhel> sure
[22:35] <jerald> hi there?
[22:35] <templaedhel> jerald: hi, was that a question or a statement before?
[22:36] <jerald> i am confused sir ?
[22:36] <jerald> how can i upgrade my kubuntu 8.10 -- > 9.04 ?
[22:36] <templaedhel> jerald: there should be a thing in your upload applet thing
[22:36] <jerald> this is my question sir..
[22:37] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: http://pastebin.com/m4a631ddc
[22:37] <ign0ramus> jerald, if you have Adept, you should be able to update, and it should tell you that a new release is available
[22:37] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, that's what i thought... it looks fine
[22:37] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, if you run "xrandr" , does it list your proper resolution?
[22:38] <RProgrammer> robin0800: Nope, xfix, dpkg repair, fsck all don't work
[22:38] <jerald> yes ... it said.    But when i told to upgrade,  it began to download packages from internet. But i have a latest 9.04 release CD rom
[22:38] <RProgrammer> Where would I find log messages for the kde session startup services?
[22:39] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: it does not, it lists the same as in the system>display menu, which don't go high enough
[22:39] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, ok, so that's the issue... now let's find a solution.
[22:40] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: I'm all for solutions, let me know how to help
[22:40] <jerald> in my kubuntu 8.10 there are three update managers.. adept, 'syntactic' i think and some other  gnu package manager..
[22:40] <templaedhel> the little gear in your system tray
[22:40] <ghostsan> i got a questiong that has nothing to do with technology
[22:41] <jerald> i am using kubuntu 8.10 intirid
[22:41] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, it would appear that running "cvt 1920 1080" would be a good first step.  please post output.  pastebin if long.
[22:41] <ghostsan> but maybe someone knows, im trying to get my high school transcripts for college, i graduated in 2000
[22:41] <jerald> i have no so much space to install kubuntu inside the windows partition..
[22:41] <ghostsan> do they delete them?? or they keep them for a while??
[22:41] <ghostsan> does anyone know,
[22:42] <ign0ramus> ghostsan, completely off topic, but yes, they should still have them.  now please keep posts on topic.
[22:42] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: # 1920x1080 59.96 Hz (CVT 2.07M9) hsync: 67.16 kHz; pclk: 173.00 MHz
[22:42] <templaedhel> Modeline "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync
[22:42] <ghostsan> thanks, thou
[22:42] <jerald> dear templaedhel,  kindly tell me how to upgrade 9.04 using CD ROM
[22:42] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, ok, that's a good start... hang tight...
[22:42] <templaedhel> jerald: do you have the alternate cd? or the live cd?
[22:43] <coz_> hey guys  kubuntu kde 4.2.4  and I have sounds that wont    go away lol
[22:43] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, now do "  xrandr --newmode "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync  "
[22:44] <templaedhel> gives me a >
[22:44] <ikhouvanje> hello everyone
[22:45] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, it shouldn't... did you copy the command exactly?
[22:45] <templaedhel> yes
[22:45] <templaedhel> no
[22:45] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, :)
[22:45] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, i spaced out the quotes so that you would ignore them
[22:46] <templaedhel> lol, I ran it
[22:46] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, ok, did you copy it correctly now?
[22:46] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: yes
[22:46] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, now if you run " xrandr " again, it *should* list your correct resolution.  please confirm.
[22:47] <templaedhel> yes
[22:47] <templaedhel> now I'm checking the menu
[22:47] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, sweet.. is the correct resolution "VGA" or "LVDS" ?
[22:47] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, it won't be in there yet (i don't think anyway)
[22:48] <templaedhel> nope, it isn't
[22:48] <ghostsan_> if i install the new 9.04, can i install the old amarok that i have now with the previos version?
[22:48] <templaedhel> 1920x1080_60.00 (0xa0)  173.0MHz h: width  1920 start 2048 end 2248 total 2576 skew    0 clock   67.2KHz : height 1080 start 1083 end 1088 total 1120           clock   60.0Hz
[22:49] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, no, but we will make this change persistent now so that upon login 1920x1080 is good to go
[22:49] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, do " kdesudo kate ~/.xprofile "
[22:50] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, it is probably empty
[22:50] <ibou> there is no more kcontrol in jaunty ?
[22:50] <ign0ramus> ibou, no.  System Settings now.
[22:50] <ibou> in konsole ?
[22:51] <ign0ramus> ibou, in konsole, it would be 'systemsettings', but its also in your Kmenu
[22:51] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: says it was not possible to read from it
[22:51] <ibou> ok
[22:51] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, that's strange... the file does exist, right?  are permissions set correctly?
[22:53] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: it doesn't look like it exists
[22:53] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, alright, don't worry about that then.  do you use gdm or kdm to login?
[22:53] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, we'll set gdm/kdm to run your correct resolution on login
[22:54] <templaedhel> I believe I set it to kdm, but it still looks the same as it did when I used gnome
[22:54] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, ok, well we can set it in both to be sure
[22:54] <ibou> ign0ramus: thx. My problem is that i can't set up the system settings to not have application and windows from last session which open again when i log in
[22:54] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: sorry for being a noob
[22:55] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, does "xrandr" tell you that LVDS is connected?  Or does it say VGA is connected?
[22:55] <ign0ramus> ibou, "Session Manager"
[22:56] <templaedhel> ign
[22:56] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: whoops, it says lvds
[22:56] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, ok, that's what i thought... now let me work out the command.
[22:57] <ibou> ign0ramus: lol thanks. Thats stupid. I didn't see the "advanced" tab
[22:58] <ign0ramus> ibou, np dude
[22:58] <backslash> hi folks
[22:59] <backslash> need help
[22:59] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, what is your refresh rate?
[22:59] <backslash> audio problems
[22:59] <templaedhel> 60ghz
[22:59] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, k...  hang on
[22:59] <backslash> i have a notebook hp dv6-1014el
[22:59] <backslash> with HDA intel
[23:00] <backslash> Codec: IDT 92HD75B3X5
[23:00] <ibou> is hdparm set to 254 by default on jaunty ?
[23:01] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, ok do " kdesudo dolphin /etc/gdm "
[23:01] <backslash> not found in /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/ALSA-Configuration.txt.gz
[23:01] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, you should see a few files (scripts) in there
[23:01] <templaedhel> ya
[23:01] <templaedhel> gdm.conf and stuff
[23:02] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, ok, create a new text file, name it whatever and paste this in the file: "  xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1024x768 --rate 75  "
[23:02] <backslash> i tried some configuration putting various model name in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[23:02] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, wait no
[23:02] <backslash> but noone worked
[23:02] <ign0ramus> templaedhel,  use this:  "  xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1920x1080 --rate 60  "
[23:02] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, sorry
[23:03] <backslash> if someone would be so gentle i thanks a lot :)
[23:04] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, save the file and exit.  now to do the same for kdm...
[23:04] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, you with me?
[23:04] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, kdm is a little different
[23:04] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: it can't launch kate
[23:04] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, can you use kwrite or even gedit?
[23:05] <templaedhel> this is weird, even the text editor isn't working
[23:05] <templaedhel> maybe I need to sudo it
[23:06] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, well, you were supposed to run "kdesudo dolphin", so you can place files in /etc
[23:06] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, see above... did you do that?
[23:07] <templaedhel> ya,
[23:07] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, ok, then just create the file on your Desktop.  can you do this?
[23:07] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, we'll move it to the right directory using sudo
[23:09] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: I actually used sudo kate to make it, trying to save now
[23:09] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, that's not recommended, but i'll allow it this time ;)
[23:09] <ign0ramus> ! sudo | templaedhel, for future reference
[23:10] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: I'm actually smarter then this encounter makes me appear, I know about sudo and gtksudo
[23:10] <templaedhel> ign, ok, I created it
[23:11] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, ok, i'm not here to judge, only to help ;)
[23:11] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, ok, have you placed it in /etc/gdm ?
[23:11] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: and you have no idea how much appreciate it
[23:11] <Solidus_> i don't need help atm, so feel free to judge me
[23:11] <ign0ramus> :)
[23:11] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: yep, its there
[23:11]  * ign0ramus thinks Barridus has too much time on his hands
[23:12] <templaedhel> I can't wait to not have these windows take up all the screen lol
[23:12] <ign0ramus> ok templaedhel, now to do the same with kdm
[23:12] <Barridus> thanksfully, i do.  i just got home from work.  ;)  ok i'll shut up
[23:12] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: just copy the file to there?
[23:12] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, no, hang on
[23:12] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, what?  in /etc/gdm?  Yes.  but not for kdm
[23:13] <templaedhel> I meant, how do I do the same for kdm?
[23:13] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, for kdm, do: "kdesudo kate /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup"
[23:13] <backslash> sorry guys noone could help me?
[23:13] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, here you should find a script with some commented lines (starting with #)... right?
[23:14] <templaedhel> ya
[23:14] <Barridus> anyone have thoughts on jaunty with kde 4.2.4?
[23:14] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, ok, paste that same line in here.
[23:14] <ign0ramus> templaedhel,  xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1920x1080 --rate 60
[23:14] <templaedhel> ya
[23:14] <templaedhel> got it
[23:14] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, save and exit
[23:15] <templaedhel> yep
[23:15] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, now, if the Linux gods are smiling, the next time you restart X, your correct resolution should be working
[23:15] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, feel free to try it now if you'd like
[23:15] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, i'm curious myself (never actually had to do it)
[23:15] <templaedhel> ok
[23:15] <templaedhel> brb
[23:17] <backslash> kubuntu 9.04 uses pulseaudio?
[23:17] <ign0ramus> backslash, no. but for some reason it's installed anyway.
[23:17] <backslash> k
[23:17] <backslash> so what uses ? alsa?
[23:17] <ign0ramus> backslash, yes, alsa is still used
[23:18] <ign0ramus> backslash, check your sound levels using "alsamixer"
[23:18] <backslash> already done
[23:18] <backslash> not so noob
[23:18] <backslash> ;)
[23:18] <ign0ramus> backslash, and still *no* sound?
[23:19] <backslash> yeah
[23:19] <ign0ramus> backslash, do you have sound using livecd?
[23:19] <backslash> alsa restart give no errors
[23:19] <backslash> good question
[23:19] <backslash> i don't know
[23:19] <ign0ramus> backslash, that's a definite way to eliminate the question of hardware/software
[23:20] <backslash> but i have a fresh kubuntu install
[23:20] <ign0ramus> backslash, i have HDA Intel which worked OOB in Jaunty
[23:20] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: well, it didn't work, but I think kate was messed up
[23:20] <ign0ramus> backslash, but you said you were messing with modprobe files
[23:20] <backslash> OOB ?
[23:20] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, hmmm.. try again?
[23:20] <templaedhel> ya
[23:20] <ign0ramus> backslash, 'out of the box'
[23:21] <templaedhel> what was the command that you wanted me to run, that wasn't working?
[23:21] <backslash> ah me too in 8.10
[23:21] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, "kdesudo dolphin /etc/gdm"
[23:21] <LuisJa> i am having one internal error with red alert 2 under wine, what can be the problem?
[23:21] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, that is where we were going to place that config file
[23:21] <LuisJa> it appears after 10-50 seconds of playing
[23:22] <backslash> yeah i'm messing with modprobe files, because
[23:22] <backslash> i read some guides on ubuntu forums
[23:22] <ign0ramus> backslash, where you put like "model=acer" or whatever?  shouldn't be necessary in Jaunty
[23:23] <templaedhel> strange, I think there are bigger problems here then my resolution, now it says "/usr/bin/dolphin(8729)" Error in thread 3051452096 : "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files"
[23:23] <backslash> saying that must put the right model of notebook in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa:dont_remebre_the_file.conf
[23:24] <ign0ramus> backslash, for Jaunty?
[23:24] <backslash> indeed it does change nothing
[23:24] <backslash> yes
[23:24] <backslash> jaunty
[23:24] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, does "kdesudo konqueror /etc/gdm" work?
[23:24] <ign0ramus> backslash, do you have that link?
[23:25] <backslash> guide link?
[23:25] <backslash> yes
[23:25] <ign0ramus> backslash, yeah
[23:25] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: ya
[23:25] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, try putting the file in that way
[23:25] <templaedhel> ok, the file is there
[23:25] <templaedhel> does it need an extension?
[23:25] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, for reference, see here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[23:26] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, no extension
[23:26] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, just a plain text file
[23:26] <backslash> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1043568
[23:26] <templaedhel> that was probably my problem, I had screenres.txt
[23:26] <backslash> and
[23:26] <backslash> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=912896
[23:27] <templaedhel> what was the other file?
[23:28] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, "/etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup"
[23:29] <ign0ramus> backslash, do you have "linux-backports-modules-generic" installed?
[23:30] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: interesting, when I open it, the lines in there, but if I click on it, it displays this in the terminal xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1080
[23:30] <backslash> searching...
[23:30] <backslash> no
[23:30] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, strange.  test it out anyway... if the lines are in there, it *should* work :)
[23:30]  * ign0ramus crosses fingers
[23:31] <ign0ramus> backslash, install that first
[23:31] <backslash> ok
[23:31] <templaedhel> brb
[23:31] <jhouns> 'Sup guys =]
[23:31] <backslash> jaunty-generic or my_kernel-generic?
[23:32] <backslash> jaunty one
[23:33] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: nope...
[23:33] <backslash> must restart?
[23:33] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, hmm... that's what i was going to say next, but this is curious.
[23:33] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, it can't hurt
[23:33] <templaedhel> ok
[23:33] <templaedhel> brb, slightly longer this time
[23:34] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, i'll be here
[23:34] <backslash> brb
[23:40] <backslash_> ign0ramus, i can't install linux-backports
[23:40] <backslash_> if i install my wifi card works nomore
[23:40] <ign0ramus> backslash_, that's weird. why not?
[23:40] <ign0ramus> backslash_, aw crap
[23:41] <ign0ramus> backslash_, you wanna try a newer kernel to see if you can get both sound and wifi working?
[23:41] <backslash_> 2.6.28-11-generic
[23:41] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: I'm sorry, I mislead you
[23:41] <ign0ramus> backslash_, you can try 2.6.30rc8 if you want
[23:42] <templaedhel> it appears it doesn't work in gnome either...
[23:42] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, why do you say that?
[23:42] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, d'oh!
[23:42] <templaedhel> but for some reason, things still seem smaller
[23:42] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, well, i think i may have forgotten something myself
[23:43] <thatdude1> Hey guys how can i disable things like tor or privoxy and things in init.d to NOT run automatically at login or boot? Thanks
[23:43] <templaedhel> I feel like an idiot lol
[23:43] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, do: " xrandr --addmode LVDS 1920x1080 "
[23:43] <templaedhel> ok, well, the thing is, I'm in gnome now, because after I restarted the wifi didn't work
[23:43] <templaedhel> I'm going to go back to kde
[23:43] <templaedhel> see if it works now
[23:45] <templaedhel> ok
[23:45] <templaedhel> all good
[23:45] <templaedhel> cmd again please?
[23:45] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, " xrandr --addmode LVDS 1920x1080 "
[23:45] <ign0ramus> thatdude1, "man update-rc.d"
[23:46] <templaedhel> xrandr: cannot find mode "1920x1080"
[23:46] <templaedhel> and I don't have quotes around the res, when I put it in
[23:46] <backslash_> ign0ramus, latest stable version is 2.6.29.4 you think it's ok that one?
[23:46] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, wth? we manually added it!
[23:46]  * templaedhel is starting to like gnome again...
[23:47] <templaedhel> even though I'm missing the res on there too
[23:47] <templaedhel> I think its probably an xorg issue though
[23:47] <ign0ramus> backslash_, yeah. i'm using 2.6.30rc8, and it's not really "unstable"... if it's been released, why not try it?  just keep your old kernel just in case
[23:47] <backslash_> ok
[23:47] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, xorg does next to nothing in Jaunty
[23:48] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, doesn't mean that it *can't*, but by default, it's pretty blank
[23:48] <templaedhel> I'm in 8.10
[23:48] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, oh yeah... forgot that fact.  doesn't change what we've done so far, though.
[23:49] <templaedhel> you know anything about xorg?
[23:49] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, gotta run (dinner), but check the link i gave you, and i'll be back in a little bit
[23:49] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[23:52] <backslash_> ign0ramus, go to sleep
[23:52] <backslash_> ign0ramus, thx for help
[23:52] <backslash_> tomorrow install new kernel
[23:53] <backslash_> cya
[23:53] <gabriel> can someone please help me build packages from source?
[23:54] <gabriel> hello?
[23:54] <gabriel> is anyone here?
[23:55] <gabriel> hummm
[23:55] <JuJuBee> Can I make a bootable USB flash drive from a live CD?
[23:55] <gabriel> I think All i need is c++ compiler
[23:56] <gabriel> if you install usb-creator I think u can
[23:56] <gabriel> I don't know how to do it from live CD though
[23:57] <RProgrammer> I fixed it
[23:58] <JuJuBee> gabriel: thanks, I installed it now trying to run it...
[23:58] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, have you found anything?
[23:58] <ign0ramus> (i eat fast)
[23:59] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: not really
[23:59] <RProgrammer> For the record: If you change the hostname in Kubuntu, not only do you have to change it in /etc/hostname, /etc/hosts, /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf, but also in ~/.kde/<hostname>-{cache,socket,tmp}
[23:59] <JuJuBee> usb-creater won't run from live cd it seems
[23:59] <templaedhel> ign0ramus: I found some stuff about adding stuff, but it doesn't do much
[23:59] <gabriel> It should be pretty simple.  but I think you need an iso image, but that might just use the Live cd itself.
[23:59] <ign0ramus> templaedhel, if you run "xrandr", does it still find your proper resolution?
[23:59] <templaedhel> ya