| === kakemann_ is now known as kakemann | ||
| kakemann | should bug 377201 be set as a duplicate of bug 383271? | 01:12 |
|---|---|---|
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 377201 in audacious "update audacious && audacious-plugins to 2.0.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/377201 | 01:12 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 383271 in audacious "Please merge audacious 2.0.1-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/383271 | 01:12 |
| BUGabundo | kakemann: I guess so | 01:14 |
| BUGabundo | hey ogasawara | 01:14 |
| bcurtiswx | kakemann: is 2.0.2 and 2.0.1-1 different? | 01:14 |
| bcurtiswx | sorry 2.0.1 and 2.0.1-1 | 01:14 |
| kakemann | hmm, I have to look into that | 01:15 |
| kklimonda | kakemann: yes - you can set it as a duplicate | 01:15 |
| bcurtiswx | ah, because debain marks first build as -1 right? | 01:15 |
| kklimonda | yeah | 01:15 |
| kakemann | ok, will do | 01:15 |
| kakemann | thanks | 01:16 |
| bcurtiswx | thanks kklimonda | 01:16 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| madmax_X | hello all | 04:15 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:15 |
| e-jat | morning dholbach | 06:27 |
| dholbach | hiya e-jat | 06:28 |
| e-jat | :) | 06:28 |
| dholbach | hola ara | 06:40 |
| ara | good morning dholbach | 06:40 |
| thekorn_ | good morning bugsquad | 07:36 |
| === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn | ||
| xteejx | bug 383768 is this a good idea to force the update? | 08:31 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 383768 in mktemp "[karmic] The essential package 'mktemp' is marked for removal." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/383768 | 08:31 |
| Hobbsee | no | 08:38 |
| xteejx | Hobbsee, thanks :) Was kinda thinking it was a stupid idea, I assume they'll resolve it? | 08:39 |
| Hobbsee | yes. | 08:39 |
| Hobbsee | and that bug has to be a dupe | 08:39 |
| Hobbsee | the master is pro bably under coreutils | 08:39 |
| xteejx | cool, ps good morning everyone :) | 08:39 |
| xteejx | I tagged it as metabug | 08:40 |
| savvas | hm.. | 08:43 |
| savvas | I think it is update-manager that must learn to ignore that one | 08:44 |
| xteejx | I did look for dupes but couldnt find any | 08:44 |
| savvas | great job! :) | 08:46 |
| xteejx | thanks :D | 08:46 |
| randomaction | this seems to cause build failures for newly uploaded packages | 08:46 |
| savvas | randomaction: the chroot problem? | 08:47 |
| randomaction | yes | 08:47 |
| savvas | I've noticed it, but geser at #ubuntu-motu recommended to wait for a while and retry the build | 08:47 |
| savvas | +Conflicts: mktemp | 08:48 |
| savvas | +Replaces: mktemp | 08:49 |
| savvas | I wonder if it should have "Provides: mktemp" ? | 08:49 |
| geser | savvas: I haven't looked at the specific one chroot problem but most such problems are transient unless they appear in bulk | 08:51 |
| savvas | ok :) | 08:51 |
| xteejx | guys, does that mean that the problem will just float past and be fixed one day when people update? | 08:57 |
| savvas | xteejx: it should :) | 08:59 |
| xteejx | savvas, Ok cool :) | 08:59 |
| savvas | It's either coreutils fault or update-manager.. or they should remove mktemp's "Essential" | 09:00 |
| xteejx | I didn't expect a stable system hehe, but I hear quite a lot of UI improvements are going into karmic | 09:00 |
| savvas | hm.. that last one seems great :P | 09:00 |
| xteejx | no point asking me - I haven't a clue about MOTU lol | 09:01 |
| mvo | savvas: I check it out, I can make u-m ignore mktemps essential | 09:03 |
| seb128 | mvo: the issue should be fixed in debian now, I will do an autosync run | 09:04 |
| savvas | mvo: no no, it's fixed in coreutils - dholbach replied :) | 09:04 |
| dholbach | seb128: I think it's synced already, it needs to be built manually though because the chroots are busted | 09:05 |
| savvas | dholbach: wouldn't it be better if mktemp was demoted from "Essential" ? Or that wouldn't make a difference? | 09:05 |
| seb128 | dholbach: everything has been synced or just coreutils, ie should I still do a normal daily autosync? | 09:05 |
| dholbach | seb128: I don't know | 09:06 |
| dholbach | savvas: <wgrant> coreutils contains and now Conflicts with mktemp. | 09:06 |
| dholbach | apt doesn't like removing Essential packages, which mktemp is. | 09:06 |
| dholbach | A fixed coreutils has been uploaded (producing a transitional non-Essential mktemp binary), but it needs to be built manually. | 09:06 |
| seb128 | alright | 09:06 |
| savvas | ah I get it, mktemp is orphaned | 09:07 |
| wgrant | Right. | 09:07 |
| wgrant | Presumably in a release or two coreutils will drop the mktemp binary, and all will be good. | 09:08 |
| savvas | well the coreutils workaround ought to work :) | 09:08 |
| wgrant | But for now we just have to wait. Is anybody but infinity sufficiently empowered to fix this? | 09:09 |
| xteejx | how soon is "soon to be processed"? | 09:11 |
| xteejx | and how is it going to work the fix, will it just "work" or is there anything extra thats needed to be done? | 09:12 |
| wgrant | The coreutils/mktemp issue will vanish. Nothing special will need to be done. | 09:12 |
| xteejx | wgrant, just upgrade as normal then? :) | 09:13 |
| wgrant | Yes. | 09:13 |
| xteejx | cool | 09:13 |
| Ekushey | i filed a new bug, can someone take a look at it? it's # 383444 | 09:28 |
| xteejx | bug 383444 | 09:28 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 383444 in tzdata "Timezone change for Bangladesh" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/383444 | 09:28 |
| wgrant | I'm impressed. | 09:34 |
| wgrant | They introduce it without a definite date of termination? | 09:34 |
| Ekushey | wgrant, it's still undecided | 09:35 |
| Ekushey | btw it's my first bug report, i hope it looks OK? | 09:35 |
| wgrant | That's OK. | 09:36 |
| Ekushey | ok, that's a relief then | 09:36 |
| wgrant | In future I wouldn't use tinyurl-like services, though. | 09:36 |
| Ekushey | will remember that :) | 09:36 |
| wgrant | Hmm. 2009h is still the latest. | 09:37 |
| askand1 | kklimonda: hi, I can not upgrade to 1.7 from your ppa, only partial upgrade | 10:04 |
| askand1 | any idea on why? | 10:04 |
| askand1 | kklimonda: ah nevermind, solved it, what did you say was the name of the new debugpackage? :) | 10:11 |
| siretart | hey folks | 11:32 |
| siretart | I'm currently preparing a new upload of vlc and wanted to go through the list of vlc bugs | 11:32 |
| siretart | unfortunately, the bug list is filled up with 'triaged' crasher bugs, which I'd like to exclude somehow | 11:33 |
| siretart | is that possible? | 11:33 |
| siretart | I don't have the time and energy to process all those crasher bugs, but I want to see what 'other' 'regular' bugs have been filed | 11:33 |
| seb128 | siretart: not really, you can filter out the triaged bugs | 11:34 |
| siretart | that list is rather short | 11:35 |
| siretart | I do remember that there are some bugs in 'triaged' status which are fixed in this new version | 11:35 |
| siretart | but I cannot locate them | 11:35 |
| seb128 | no easy way to do what you want no | 11:37 |
| siretart | this means the buglisting of vlc is useless to me as I cannot handle it | 11:37 |
| * Hobbsee wonders if bughelper will help with that | 11:38 | |
| seb128 | siretart: the issue is just the number of bugs? | 11:38 |
| siretart | more my inability to sort, filter and handle the large amount of bugs | 11:39 |
| seb128 | you are not really trying apparently | 11:39 |
| seb128 | you just focus on one thing you can't do | 11:39 |
| siretart | hm. probably | 11:39 |
| seb128 | all the crash bug are importance medium | 11:39 |
| siretart | I'm currently checking the bugs wich are 'fix committed' | 11:40 |
| seb128 | so you can review everything which is not medium for example | 11:40 |
| siretart | there are 4 bugs | 11:40 |
| siretart | okay, I'll try that next | 11:40 |
| seb128 | "show bugs that are resolved upstream" lists 17 bugs | 11:41 |
| seb128 | you might want to review that list too | 11:41 |
| siretart | three triaged bugs with importance not medium.. :/ | 11:42 |
| seb128 | nobody is looking at vlc bugs | 11:42 |
| siretart | :/, because the bug I expected is not there. but still a few more bugs | 11:42 |
| siretart | yes, thats unfortunate | 11:42 |
| seb128 | if you do a new version upload you can probably close quite some of those bugs which have an upstream task closed | 11:43 |
| siretart | okay, will check them | 11:44 |
| siretart | okay, so the idea is to filter for bugs that need upstreaming, then upstream them in batch, and on new upstream version check what bugs can be closed, right? | 11:51 |
| seb128 | siretart: yes | 11:58 |
| siretart | okay, I've now done so | 12:12 |
| siretart | unfortunately, the buildds are broken ATM, so I cannot testbuild | 12:12 |
| askand1 | kklimonda_: transmissions keeps crashing : / | 13:04 |
| askand1 | How do I tell gdb to ignore "Program received signal SIGPIPE, Broken pipe."? | 13:10 |
| dholbach | try (gdb) help handle | 13:14 |
| askand1 | dholbach: thanks handle SIGPIPE nostop noprint nopass seems to work | 13:19 |
| dholbach | rock on | 13:19 |
| kklimonda_ | askand1: the same backtrace? or similar? | 13:45 |
| kklimonda_ | askand1: and have you tried 1.70? | 13:46 |
| askand1 | kklimonda_: I am trying now with 1.70, got a sigpipestop but added "handle SIGPIPE nostop noprint nopass" and trying again now | 13:51 |
| savvas | mvo: could you take a look at an older merge request for software-properties (KDE)? It fixes some unicode text strings: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~medigeek/software-properties/kde_deb_and_deb-src_unicode_fix/+merge/4956 diff: http://tinyurl.com/m26xuw | 15:09 |
| savvas | " some unicode text strings" = a unicode bug | 15:10 |
| savvas | I can't seem to find the bug number right now though.. hm.. | 15:10 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| savvas | mvo: found it, bug #102773 - the last comments, the software sources list appears "gibberish": http://launchpadlibrarian.net/24255059/adept1.png | 15:12 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 102773 in software-properties "l10n broken in software-properties" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102773 | 15:12 |
| mvo | savvas: sure, I do this now | 15:14 |
| savvas | thanks :) | 15:14 |
| stpere | /win 21 | 15:16 |
| stpere | oops, sorry :) | 15:16 |
| savvas | you lose! | 15:16 |
| savvas | :p | 15:16 |
| === kklimonda_ is now known as kklimonda | ||
| jdstrand | dholbach: hi! looking at bug #383696 I see you unsubscribed the sponsors team. looking at the bug, it seems it needs a sponsor. am I missing something? | 16:27 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 383696 in kio-gopher "Sync kio-gopher 0.1.3-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/383696 | 16:27 |
| dholbach | jdstrand: "this sync is perfect" | 16:28 |
| dholbach | I took this as an ACKed sync request | 16:28 |
| dholbach | ubuntu-archive is subscribedx | 16:28 |
| jdstrand | dholbach: yes, but I didn't see that he was a sponsor perse | 16:28 |
| dholbach | so all's good, no? | 16:28 |
| dholbach | ah | 16:28 |
| dholbach | right | 16:28 |
| dholbach | he dropped out of ~motu | 16:28 |
| dholbach | nevermind | 16:28 |
| dholbach | I'll ACK it | 16:28 |
| dholbach | I reviewed it myself | 16:29 |
| jdstrand | dholbach: excellent, thanks | 16:29 |
| dholbach | done | 16:29 |
| bcurtiswx | ACK? | 16:29 |
| dholbach | acknowledged, approved, OK :) | 16:29 |
| bcurtiswx | ahh, :-) ok thx | 16:29 |
| dholbach | :-) | 16:30 |
| bcurtiswx | so does an ACK mean its triged, or fix released or..? | 16:32 |
| dholbach | bcurtiswx: this isn't a real bug, but more a "workflow bug" | 16:32 |
| dholbach | basically it's there to organise work between groups of developers | 16:32 |
| dholbach | it's safe to ignore it | 16:32 |
| dholbach | if you want to know more about it, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess | 16:33 |
| bcurtiswx | dholbach: ok j/w here. i know to stay away from syncs as a triager. Im always interested in learning more.. thx | 16:33 |
| dholbach | cool :) | 16:33 |
| xteejx | Who do I get in contact for pushing a bug through with the accessibility team, its a feature that has been broken for quite some time....bug 377060 | 16:39 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 377060 in espeak "[jaunty karmic] espeak missing words and phonemes from sentences" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/377060 | 16:39 |
| dholbach | themuso probably, but he's in Australia so hopefully sleeping | 16:40 |
| xteejx | dholback, oh ok daniel, it should be ok to leave it on LP shouldn't it? I mean it will get seen to, right? | 16:47 |
| xteejx | actually forget that, stupid question | 16:47 |
| xteejx | !julius | 16:48 |
| ubot4 | Factoid 'julius' not found | 16:48 |
| dholbach | xteejx: I guess so, yes - but you can make sure and talk to him on Monday about it | 16:48 |
| xteejx | dholbach, Will do, thanks :) | 16:48 |
| === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn | ||
| bcurtiswx | I <3 showing up at work when nobody else does... it means i can leave early!!!! bbl | 18:49 |
| hggdh | who takes care of devicekit? | 19:46 |
| bdmurray | hggdh: I believe pitti is familiar with it | 19:50 |
| hggdh | bdmurray, thanks | 19:52 |
| hggdh | now I have to find the bloody bug... lost it :-( | 19:52 |
| xteejx | bdmurray, Sorry about that bug report earlier | 20:13 |
| bcurtiswx | is there an IRC page for the community council? | 20:15 |
| kklimonda | irc page? | 20:15 |
| bcurtiswx | IRC channel | 20:22 |
| bcurtiswx | i've got web pages on the brain.. sorry | 20:22 |
| bcurtiswx | lol | 20:22 |
| andersk | Can someone set the importance of bug 382608 to Low? | 20:25 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 382608 in openafs "Sync openafs 1.4.10+dfsg1-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/382608 | 20:25 |
| askand | Hi, I have a way to get a segfault in GDB 100% on my computer, can someone please try if it's just me? Move .mozilla to .mozillabackup or something, run: 'firefox -g 2>&1 | tee firefoxfresh.txt' and then 'run' | 20:26 |
| dtchen | andersk: why low? | 20:28 |
| kklimonda | askand: indeed, it crashes | 20:36 |
| askand | kklimonda: ok would you mind sending the bugreport due to bug 314212 :) | 20:37 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 314212 in python-apt "Apport unable to report crash - urlopen error timed out" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/314212 | 20:37 |
| kklimonda | askand: btw, how is transmission 1.70? has it crashed yet? :) | 20:37 |
| askand | no, one of the few apps on my system that are rocksolid atm :) | 20:38 |
| kklimonda | send report for gdb? what does it have in common with this error? | 20:39 |
| kklimonda | damn, it's getting cold again o.O | 20:39 |
| kklimonda | askand: let's hope it doesn't crash then.. ;) | 20:39 |
| askand | kklimonda: I can't send it with report because of the timeout error :) | 20:40 |
| askand | apport* | 20:40 |
| kklimonda | oh, i see | 20:40 |
| kklimonda | askand: looks like it's already reported: bug 258578 | 20:45 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 258578 in gdb "gdb crashed with SIGSEGV in iterate_over_threads()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/258578 | 20:45 |
| askand | indeed :) | 20:46 |
| BUGabundo | guud evening | 20:51 |
| kklimonda | hey | 20:51 |
| BUGabundo | hey kklimonda | 20:52 |
| andersk | dtchen: it fixes an OpenAFS kernel crash with kernel >= 2.6.27, (Debian bug #528785), so it is certainly important to OpenAFS users, but I won't continue to nitpick. | 20:55 |
| ubot4 | Debian bug 528785 in openafs-modules-source "openafs-modules-source: Random kernel crashes when accessing AFS" [Important,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/528785 | 20:55 |
| dtchen | andersk: right, that much is understood, but sync requests generally are wishlist | 20:58 |
| dtchen | andersk: effectively, however, importance is largely ignored when overriding deltas | 20:58 |
| andersk | Okay. I didn't see that documented anywhere (e.g. <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess> doesn't mention it; maybe it should). | 21:00 |
| bcurtiswx | ok, so since i am still not used to the apport-collect, it just collects the basic info from the persons computer for the bug right. bug #384060 im working with, and i can not reproduce the issue | 22:07 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 384060 in ubuntu "gnome-ppp needs sudo" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/384060 | 22:07 |
| bcurtiswx | does BUGNUMBER need a # ? | 22:08 |
| BUGabundo | nopwe | 22:08 |
| BUGabundo | $ apport-collect BUGID | 22:08 |
| BUGabundo | IF the bug has a package assign | 22:09 |
| bcurtiswx | that it does | 22:09 |
| BUGabundo | and you can also add data from another package to a bug that doesn't mention it | 22:09 |
| BUGabundo | $ apport-collect BUGID -p OTHERPACKAGE | 22:09 |
| BUGabundo | oh and user must be running a recent ubuntu version and have -updates enabled | 22:09 |
| BUGabundo | since -collect hooks came too late | 22:10 |
| bcurtiswx | its karmic | 22:10 |
| bcurtiswx | gnome-ppp | 22:10 |
| BUGabundo | ok | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | let me try it | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | don't even have it | 22:12 |
| bcurtiswx | lol | 22:13 |
| bcurtiswx | bdmurray: in the greasemonkey script for user responses.. with the "vague" response, i find myself having to ask for package and ubuntu versions an awful lot. do you think you could add those to the responses in a future release? | 22:14 |
| bdmurray | bcurtiswx: They way I see it vague should only be used for the lowest quality bugs. I'd generally try to use "Collect It" as much as possible. | 22:17 |
| bcurtiswx | bdmurray: ok, thx | 22:17 |
| bdmurray | Does that make sense? | 22:17 |
| bcurtiswx | yeah, does collect work with hardy/intrepid/jaunty/karmic? | 22:18 |
| bdmurray | No, no, yes, yes! ;-) | 22:18 |
| bcurtiswx | so, for the no,no vague a better response? | 22:19 |
| bdmurray | Well you said you have to ask for the ubuntu version a lot so I'm not sure how'd you know if it was Hardy or Intrepid, but I could do that. | 22:22 |
| BUGabundo | bcurtiswx: to answer you Q: gnome-ppp is not asking me to be root | 22:23 |
| bcurtiswx | BUGabundo: thats what i had happen too, is it supposed to ask for root permissions? | 22:24 |
| bcurtiswx | bdmurray: yeah, good point.. wtg brain <facepalm> | 22:25 |
| BUGabundo | bcurtiswx: maybe. if it is going to change your connection... but I don't think it needs too | 22:28 |
| BUGabundo | I can operate *over* to original Link, so it can run on userland | 22:28 |
| BUGabundo | bcurtiswx: ask asac | 22:28 |
| bcurtiswx | asac: so you don't have to scroll up, should gnome-ppp ask for a sudo password when called from a user level by default ? | 22:29 |
| bcurtiswx | BUGabundo: so the user is experiencing a bug, as we have verified that it works ....AFAIK as designed | 22:31 |
| BUGabundo | bcurtiswx: better ping asac on #ubuntu-mozillateam. he is not so much active here | 22:31 |
| BUGabundo | bcurtiswx: well karmic is unstable | 22:31 |
| BUGabundo | he better be running uptodate before filling bugs | 22:32 |
| bcurtiswx | BUGabundo: i tested on karmic... works "fine" | 22:32 |
| BUGabundo | me too | 22:33 |
| bcurtiswx | i did forget to ask if hes fully updated.. but the apport collect will tell us right away if anythings not updated | 22:33 |
| BUGabundo | but you never know what the user actually did on the other side | 22:33 |
| BUGabundo | or even if he can reproduce it for sure | 22:33 |
| BUGabundo | or its just ear say | 22:33 |
| BUGabundo | bcurtiswx: ask him if it is reproduclbe | 22:33 |
| bcurtiswx | BUGabundo: k | 22:34 |
| plars | Would steps to reproduce + a legible photo of the panic and most of the stacktrace generally be considered sufficient for confirmed on a kernel bug? I know that text output of the full stacktrace would be preferable but I don't think he's been able to get that from his netbook | 22:34 |
| BUGabundo | plars: on shutdown? yes a pic is nice | 22:35 |
| plars | BUGabundo: it's not on shutdown, no | 22:35 |
| BUGabundo | plars: kernel devs tend to accept that | 22:35 |
| plars | ok | 22:35 |
| bcurtiswx | any here running kubuntu karmic ? | 22:59 |
| * BUGabundo hands "one" to bcurtiswx | 23:00 | |
| bcurtiswx | can you test bug #384098 | 23:01 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 384098 in openoffice.org "Some tables will not display" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/384098 | 23:01 |
| BUGabundo | no time sorry | 23:01 |
| BUGabundo | trying to fix U1 | 23:01 |
| bcurtiswx | ok | 23:01 |
| bcurtiswx | i guess its time to break down and VM kubuntu | 23:02 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 23:03 |
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