| pleia2 | Vantrax: we were talking about this earlier today, according to the doodle poll 00:00 UTC on monday and tuesday (sunday and monday night for most of us, monday and tuesday morning for you?) tend to be the best | 00:01 |
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| pleia2 | I'd vote for second sunday and third monday at that time | 00:01 |
| pleia2 | err | 00:02 |
| pleia2 | first monday and third sunday | 00:02 |
| pleia2 | or something :) | 00:02 |
| Vantrax | thats 10am for me, and I can usually make it | 00:03 |
| Vantrax | that being said, I am at work | 00:03 |
| bodhizazen | +1 for 00:00 UTC | 00:08 |
| bodhizazen | most any day ;P | 00:08 |
| bodhizazen | we should put it on the fridge or a personal (gcal) ? | 00:09 |
| bodhizazen | pleia2: my session in 45 min ? | 00:14 |
| pleia2 | bodhizazen: yes :) | 00:15 |
| Vantrax | fridge imo | 00:33 |
| Vantrax | for team meetings anyway | 00:33 |
| bodhizazen | session in 5 min or so :) | 00:53 |
| pleia2 | cprofitt: someday I must pick your brain about running concise, successful meetings :) I am terrible at it | 02:25 |
| cprofitt | lol... why do you say that? | 02:26 |
| pleia2 | tangents, losing my train of thought :) | 02:26 |
| cprofitt | pleia2, today's event - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam/Events/20090604 | 02:26 |
| pleia2 | yeah, I saw! nice :) | 02:26 |
| cprofitt | you just have to be single minded like me... | 02:26 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 02:26 |
| pleia2 | so in meetings I get distracted by tangents because I *want* input from other people, I don't want them to feel bad about offering suggestions | 02:27 |
| cprofitt | I see... | 02:28 |
| doctormo | I vote -1 for calling the website after the initalism, it's not a very good brand | 02:28 |
| cprofitt | write down the 'off-topic' ideas... and tell them you will get back to that point later pleia2 | 02:28 |
| cprofitt | what website cprofitt | 02:28 |
| doctormo | That's what you have to do when you chair a meeting | 02:29 |
| cprofitt | I mean doctormo what website? | 02:29 |
| doctormo | The ubuntu learning website | 02:29 |
| pleia2 | cprofitt: I am bad at saying that nicely, or I spend too much time trying to think of how to say it nicely :) | 02:29 |
| doctormo | [18:48] <bodhizazen> so IMO UCLP is best , but I am flexible | 02:29 |
| doctormo | pleia2: you don't get points for nice, you get points for being fair and decisive. | 02:30 |
| cprofitt | don't try to say it nicely... just say it... tell people at the meeting start... | 02:30 |
| cprofitt | so the website will be called UCLP? | 02:30 |
| doctormo | cprofitt: I hope it won't be called UCLP | 02:31 |
| cprofitt | I thought is was Ubuntu Community Learning Project | 02:31 |
| cprofitt | which is ULCP... | 02:31 |
| cprofitt | what are the other alternatives? | 02:31 |
| cprofitt | UCLP I mean... | 02:32 |
| doctormo | No, think about branding, design, ULCP is a jaundiced brand. | 02:32 |
| cprofitt | why? | 02:32 |
| doctormo | It talks of "people who couldn't think up a good name" not "what the thing does" | 02:32 |
| doctormo | "Ubuntu Learning" should be fine. | 02:32 |
| cprofitt | So you want to drop the Community and Project part... | 02:33 |
| doctormo | yep | 02:33 |
| doctormo | Have those in the sub-title as I have in my graphic I posted last night | 02:33 |
| cprofitt | I have no issue with that... and I am the one that threw out the ULCP name -- I did not expect people to like it, but they did. | 02:33 |
| cprofitt | link to graphic | 02:33 |
| doctormo | http://divajutta.com/doctormo/learning/title.png | 02:39 |
| pleia2 | I like the simplicity | 02:42 |
| cprofitt | doctormo, that works for me | 02:42 |
| cprofitt | so pleia2 would you come to Rochester if it had a Linux Festival? | 02:44 |
| pleia2 | cprofitt: depends on when :) | 02:44 |
| cprofitt | Spring time frame I think... | 02:44 |
| cprofitt | too many other things in the fall... | 02:44 |
| cprofitt | we are probably over a year out on it though... | 02:45 |
| cprofitt | we need to build some more vendor support | 02:45 |
| * pleia2 nods | 02:45 | |
| pleia2 | build it, I will come :) | 02:45 |
| cprofitt | I forced the Dell reps to come look at our packed room... | 02:45 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 02:45 |
| cprofitt | and told them I would love to have them do an Ubuntu demo with their units | 02:45 |
| cprofitt | they were all baffled that they sold Linux | 02:46 |
| cprofitt | sales people are dense at times... at least the ones that work for Dell | 02:46 |
| pleia2 | lol | 02:46 |
| cprofitt | their tech support is not much better... | 02:46 |
| cprofitt | but they do sell Ubuntu machines | 02:46 |
| doctormo | cprofitt: At least you got into their heads right? | 02:49 |
| cprofitt | Well.. make them think it is worth talking about... worth supporting | 02:51 |
| cprofitt | It bothers me more that Dell sells them and hides them than it does that HP and Lenovo do not sell them | 02:52 |
| doctormo | pardon? | 02:53 |
| doctormo | Are you saying that HP doesn't sell Ubuntu machines? | 02:53 |
| doctormo | or are you saying that Dell thinks HP doesn't sell Ubuntu machines? | 02:53 |
| cprofitt | HP does not sell ubuntu machiens | 02:56 |
| cprofitt | Dell sells them... but hides them | 02:56 |
| cprofitt | that upsets me... why hide the fact you are selling them | 02:56 |
| Vantrax | HP does, just not desktops | 03:00 |
| cprofitt | They sell Ubuntu Vantrax ? I knew they sold Linux, but was unaware of Ubuntu | 03:02 |
| Vantrax | on servers only, Canonical is actually in the process of getting certified atm from memory | 03:03 |
| cprofitt | so they are selling or will sell? | 03:04 |
| Vantrax | we had the option on it from our reseller a few months ago when we bought a server | 03:05 |
| cprofitt | nice... have not seen that in the states yet | 03:05 |
| Vantrax | that 'might' have been because of who we are as opposed to a standard | 03:05 |
| doctormo | cprofitt: HP sells a netbook with Ubuntu on it called the "HP Mini Mi", the Canonical guys down here at Lexington were the ones payed by HP to develop it. | 03:05 |
| Vantrax | nice | 03:06 |
| cprofitt | nice... I had not seen that either | 03:06 |
| cprofitt | yeah US website still not offering ubuntu on their servers | 03:06 |
| cprofitt | they offer Microsoft, Solaris, Redhat and Suse | 03:07 |
| doctormo | For HP it's all a branding play, they never wanted to say that it was Ubuntu, they were even very shy about calling it Linux | 03:07 |
| cprofitt | the minis are now saying contact your local rep to list alternative OS choices | 03:08 |
| cprofitt | still not like these guys though -- http://www.system76.com/ | 03:09 |
| Vantrax | doctormo: i think that will change once they are HP certified | 03:09 |
| cprofitt | I hope so Vantrax | 03:10 |
| cprofitt | I would love to see main-line vendors just offer it as a drop down choice | 03:10 |
| doctormo | cprofitt: I'd love to see a level playing field, but it won't happen just yet. It's getting there ever so slowly | 03:11 |
| cprofitt | doctormo, I agree... | 03:11 |
| cprofitt | and I think 'local shops' could be the start | 03:11 |
| cprofitt | if they can differentiate themselves from the 'big boys' and put some stats in to the market that Linux can sell... | 03:12 |
| bodhi_zazen | is there an easy way to search the fridge for specific meetings ? | 16:07 |
| bodhi_zazen | The server died | 16:09 |
| bodhi_zazen | I am not really sure what happened to the test moodle site :( | 16:09 |
| bodhi_zazen | but I can not connect to it | 16:09 |
| bodhi_zazen | I will re-build it this weekend | 16:09 |
| pleia2 | bodhi_zazen: could look at and search the xml feed: http://www.google.com/calendar/feeds/j5q85mmi6ujvjtii5s1n3li5io%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic | 16:17 |
| pleia2 | oh hm, I guess that only shows ones that already passed | 16:18 |
| pleia2 | guess not | 16:18 |
| bodhi_zazen | thanks anyways pleia2 :) | 16:23 |
| bodhi_zazen | it is a busy calendar is all | 16:23 |
| * pleia2 nods | 16:24 | |
| bodhi_zazen | we should start regular meetings for this team | 16:24 |
| bodhi_zazen | weekly or bi weekly until we are up and running | 16:24 |
| bodhi_zazen | do we have a meetings wiki page w/ an agenda ? | 16:25 |
| pleia2 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/Agenda | 16:26 |
| pleia2 | I think Vantrax was going to write meeting minutes and rotate this stuff out from our last meeting, but I don't know if that ever happened | 16:26 |
| bodhi_zazen | not yet, I will work on it | 16:26 |
| bodhi_zazen | have we agreed on a meeting schedule yet ? | 16:27 |
| pleia2 | not yet, the doodle poll shows monday and sunday evenings are best | 16:27 |
| pleia2 | so I proposed: 1st Monday, 3rd Sunday | 16:27 |
| pleia2 | which is mostly bi-weekly | 16:27 |
| bodhi_zazen | where is the doodle pool ? | 16:39 |
| bodhi_zazen | I saw that mentioned :) | 16:39 |
| pleia2 | http://www.doodle.com/e4qemk8nuf2q5iye | 16:40 |
| pleia2 | (update the timezone for yourself) | 16:40 |
| bodhi_zazen | thank you, got it | 16:43 |
| bodhi_zazen | sunday would be hard for me | 16:43 |
| bodhi_zazen | and in my experience with the beginners team, turn out is poor on weekends | 16:43 |
| bodhi_zazen | people view them as "free" | 16:44 |
| bodhi_zazen | but then they travel and get busy :( | 16:44 |
| pleia2 | the good thing about bi-weekly meetings is we don't all actually have to be there :) | 16:44 |
| pleia2 | for every one | 16:44 |
| pleia2 | they are frequent enough that missing sometimes isn't a big deal | 16:45 |
| bodhi_zazen | We tried it more then once, the second time people were clamoring for a weekend slot and it was not long b4 I was the only one at the meeting | 16:45 |
| bodhi_zazen | +1 | 16:45 |
| pleia2 | since this is what the doodle poll reflects, I think we should respect it | 16:45 |
| pleia2 | if sunday meetings turn out to be failures, we'll adjust :) | 16:45 |
| bodhi_zazen | we still need licensing on the agenda ? | 16:46 |
| pleia2 | yes | 16:46 |
| pleia2 | but that agenda is old | 16:46 |
| bodhi_zazen | I updated the agenda :) | 16:48 |
| * pleia2 looks at old revision and makes page for last meeting | 17:07 | |
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