| StevensUbuntuTri | Hello. Is it possible to get help with my firefox. It will not play flash movies on the internet | 00:29 |
|---|---|---|
| dtchen | which Flash plugin is installed? | 00:30 |
| dtchen | also, ideally you'd want to ask in #ubuntu or #ubuntu+1 | 00:30 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | oh | 00:39 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | I figured since this was the ubuntu mozilla room | 00:40 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | sorry about that | 00:40 |
| BUGabundo | StevensUbuntuTri: no prob | 00:40 |
| BUGabundo | feel free to ask | 00:40 |
| BUGabundo | dtchen is just providing you with extra support options | 00:40 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | I installed adobe flash first. It worked for a while, but not it doesn't. Only in Youtube, but with poor performance. I reinstalled the flash plugin several times, but that didn't work---so I installed Gnash mozilla plugin to give it a try--to the same result | 00:41 |
| dtchen | what is "poor performance"? | 00:44 |
| dtchen | for the symptoms you experience with Gnash, are they the same "poor performance"? | 00:44 |
| dtchen | please try to be as specific as possible, because there are far too many causes that fit the description of "poor performance" :) | 00:45 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | Very slow loading, seems to make the computer very slow, the fan starts running on full, the play/pause button doesn't look quite right and the volume doesn't look right (a little blurred) | 00:45 |
| dtchen | well, hopefully you're only using Flash 10 | 00:45 |
| dtchen | not Gnash alongside Adobe Flash alongside Swfdec | 00:46 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | I am not totally sure. At this point, I think the adobe flash is no longer installed. I installed Gnash mozilla plugin from the synaptic package manager earlier to give it a try | 00:47 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | I really don't mind which one i use as long as it works. I kind of liked the Gnash--in keeping with the spirit of the free software | 00:48 |
| BUGabundo | StevensUbuntuTri: check galternatives | 00:50 |
| dtchen | or, graphically in the web browser, about:plugins | 00:51 |
| BUGabundo | err dtchen galternatives is GUI too | 00:52 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | So you want me to install that program? galternatives? | 00:53 |
| BUGabundo | you can | 00:54 |
| BUGabundo | or do as dtchen recommened | 00:54 |
| BUGabundo | I like galternatives a lot | 00:54 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | Ok, installed and running. What is the next step? | 00:58 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | I see where it says flash-plugin | 00:58 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | actually firefox-flashplugin | 00:58 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | BUGabundo: It looks like swfdecmozilla is the chosen one. Should I switch it to GNash? | 01:01 |
| BUGabundo | any other | 01:01 |
| BUGabundo | and test again | 01:01 |
| BUGabundo | that should make more obvious what's the prob | 01:01 |
| BUGabundo | btw what arch? 32 or 64 bits? | 01:01 |
| dtchen | note there's a pulseaudio/alsa component here, too | 01:02 |
| dtchen | unfortunately i need to leave; coffee shop is closing | 01:02 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | I think 32. This is an old laptop i686 | 01:03 |
| BUGabundo | bye dtchen | 01:03 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | Bugabundo: same result | 01:04 |
| BUGabundo | did you restart FF? | 01:04 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | flash movie doesn't load | 01:04 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | yes, should I clear the histoy and cookies too? | 01:05 |
| BUGabundo | no | 01:05 |
| micahg | StevensUbuntuTri: Performance with Flash is also based on Video hardware | 01:10 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | micahg: Understandable, but it doesn't work at all in all other websites | 01:16 |
| micahg | StevensUbuntuTri: which version of Ubuntu | 01:16 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | Jaunty | 01:17 |
| micahg | are you running the latest version of FF (3.0.10)? | 01:17 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | yes | 01:18 |
| micahg | Could you please post this to pastebin.com? | 01:20 |
| micahg | apt-cache policy gnash swfdec-mozilla flashplugin-nonfree | 01:20 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| BUGabundo | for comparation | 01:22 |
| BUGabundo | $ apt-cache policy gnash swfdec-mozilla flashplugin-nonfree | pastebinit | 01:22 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/188692/ | 01:22 |
| BUGabundo | using adobes 64bits flash | 01:23 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: where do you get that script? | 01:24 |
| BUGabundo | pastbinit? | 01:24 |
| micahg | yep | 01:24 |
| BUGabundo | its on the archive | 01:24 |
| BUGabundo | it should come by default | 01:24 |
| micahg | nope | 01:25 |
| BUGabundo | asac: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/284212 | 01:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 284212 in network-manager-pptp "VPN connection fails: "unable to find valid VPN secrets" (auth dialog crash when secrets exist)" [High,Fix released] | 01:25 |
| BUGabundo | why is it beeing set as Security ? | 01:25 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: $ apt-cache policy pastebinit | pastebinit | 01:26 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/188695/ | 01:26 |
| micahg | yep, but not by default :) | 01:26 |
| micahg | I just installed it | 01:26 |
| micahg | I didn't have it before | 01:26 |
| BUGabundo | ahh | 01:26 |
| BUGabundo | I meant that as a wishbug | 01:27 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 01:27 |
| micahg | maybe in Karmic | 01:27 |
| BUGabundo | humm should I file it? cwillu? | 01:27 |
| micahg | I'm still running jaunty | 01:27 |
| BUGabundo | what package should it be? | 01:27 |
| micahg | what do you mean? | 01:28 |
| BUGabundo | pastebinit or some other seed? like ubuntu-desktop ? | 01:28 |
| micahg | dev-scripts maybe? | 01:28 |
| BUGabundo | I will file a bug so pastebinit comes on karmic | 01:28 |
| * cwillu pokes his head in | 01:28 | |
| micahg | maybe with the LP helper scripts? | 01:29 |
| BUGabundo | no idea where | 01:30 |
| BUGabundo | I guess ill file on pastebinit | 01:30 |
| BUGabundo | and mention the seed | 01:30 |
| BUGabundo | and let the dev fix it | 01:30 |
| BUGabundo | or I could ping pitty | 01:30 |
| BUGabundo | hi cwillu. nice to see you up | 01:31 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | ok I am back | 01:35 |
| micahg | welcome back StevensUbuntuTr1 | 01:35 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | I posted what you wanted to pastbin | 01:35 |
| micahg | you have the urlk? | 01:35 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | http://pastebin.com/meee2254 | 01:35 |
| micahg | ok | 01:35 |
| micahg | so you might want to uninstalled 2 of those | 01:36 |
| micahg | which flash player would you like to try? | 01:36 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | I am new to this. Do you think Gnash is a good choice? | 01:36 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | micahg: What is the best way to remove the other two? Terminal or Synaptic package manager? What commands from the terminal would you recommend? | 01:38 |
| micahg | either | 01:38 |
| micahg | synaptic if you are ntot familiar with the terminal | 01:39 |
| BUGabundo | sudo apt-get remove --purge PACKAGE | 01:39 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | Ok, only 2 gone. Only Gnash remains | 01:43 |
| micahg | ok | 01:44 |
| micahg | now restart firefox | 01:44 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | restarted | 01:44 |
| micahg | ok | 01:45 |
| micahg | try a flash site :) | 01:45 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | It does not work. It just looks like it is loading and never plays. | 01:46 |
| micahg | what type of internet connection? | 01:47 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | wlan | 01:47 |
| micahg | ok | 01:47 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | to comcast | 01:47 |
| micahg | ok, can you start firefox with -p | 01:47 |
| micahg | and try to create a new profile | 01:47 |
| micahg | so we can see if that is the issue? | 01:48 |
| micahg | you don't have to delete the old one | 01:48 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | I tried that before and it just started as if I didn't type -p | 01:48 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | I will try in again | 01:48 |
| micahg | firefox -p | 01:49 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: oh nvm I was going to say to try safemode.... but that doesn't bring flash lol | 01:49 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | Yes. That just opened firefox regularly | 01:49 |
| BUGabundo | -ProfileManager | 01:50 |
| micahg | Did you install firefox from synatptic? | 01:50 |
| BUGabundo | no -p | 01:50 |
| BUGabundo | -P <profile>Start with <profile>. | 01:50 |
| BUGabundo | -ProfileManagerStart with ProfileManager. | 01:50 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: RTFM :) | 01:50 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: so why does -p work for me? | 01:50 |
| BUGabundo | no idea | 01:51 |
| BUGabundo | I've always used profilemanager | 01:51 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | Neither work here. It just opens firefox as if I clicked on it. Firefox was already installed with Ubuntu | 01:51 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | when I loaded it from the CD | 01:51 |
| micahg | StevensUbuntuTr1: can you post apt-cache policy firefox-3.0 | 01:52 |
| BUGabundo | humm | 01:52 |
| BUGabundo | you have one other FF opened | 01:53 |
| BUGabundo | StevensUbuntuTr1: $ ps auxw | grep firefox | 01:53 |
| BUGabundo | and pastebin that | 01:53 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | http://pastebin.com/m2e2d3f2b | 01:54 |
| BUGabundo | and ps? | 01:55 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | http://pastebin.com/m7f1331e5 | 01:55 |
| micahg | ah, you have to close firefox to restart it with -p or -ProfileManager | 01:55 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 01:56 |
| BUGabundo | +1 for me | 01:56 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | ok, it worked. The profile manager opened! | 01:57 |
| micahg | cool | 01:57 |
| micahg | can you try creating a new profile | 01:57 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | Yes, I have a new one | 01:57 |
| micahg | please try a flash site while I go get some caffeine | 01:58 |
| * micahg is back | 02:01 | |
| BUGabundo | bed time. its 2am and I'm up at 7 am. | 02:02 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | It did not work | 02:05 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | one of the sites won't even load now. Nevermind the video | 02:05 |
| micahg | which site? | 02:06 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | doctorjuiceplus.com | 02:06 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | chirofraudvideo.com loads, but the video doesn't work. | 02:07 |
| micahg | StevensUbuntuTr1: on the first one, I get redirected to juiceplus.com | 02:09 |
| micahg | are there any addons in this profile | 02:10 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | let me see about the addons | 02:13 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | it looks like there are several plugins | 02:14 |
| micahg | could you list them in pastebin if there are a lot or here if its short? | 02:16 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | What is the best way to access and list them? | 02:16 |
| micahg | about:plugins is for plugins | 02:17 |
| micahg | not sure how to list addons | 02:19 |
| micahg | you can screenshot it | 02:19 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | I don't know how to do that | 02:21 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | There is the Default plugin | 02:21 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | the Demo Print Plugin | 02:21 |
| micahg | that's it? | 02:22 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | Quicktime | 02:22 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | Shockwave flash | 02:22 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | VLC multimedia | 02:22 |
| micahg | what's the filename for shockwave flash? | 02:22 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | I don't know I am looking at the adons tab in mozilla | 02:22 |
| micahg | can you go to about:plugins in firefox | 02:23 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | http://pastebin.com/m38208242 | 02:32 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | Is that what you were looking for? | 02:34 |
| micahg | yeah | 02:34 |
| micahg | that should be fine | 02:34 |
| micahg | is there anything under the addons tab? | 02:34 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | would you like to know about the plugins? extentions? etc? | 02:43 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | Is there a way to list them in such a way to paste them to pastbin? | 02:45 |
| micahg | the extensions | 02:46 |
| micahg | sorry | 02:46 |
| micahg | it used to be addons :) | 02:46 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | Ubuntu Firefox Modifications 0.7 | 02:55 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | Ubuntu Firefox pack | 02:55 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | :) | 02:55 |
| micahg | Well, can you play a youtube video? | 02:56 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | I am trying | 02:57 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | It is not working | 02:58 |
| micahg | ugh | 03:00 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | youtube is working. Bad performance | 03:00 |
| micahg | ah | 03:00 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | very slow and choppy | 03:00 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | but working | 03:00 |
| micahg | that's a different story :) | 03:00 |
| micahg | right click in the video and go to settings | 03:00 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | youtube has always worked. When I right click settings is not an option | 03:01 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | would you like file- properties? | 03:02 |
| micahg | you have to right click in the video | 03:03 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | I am back | 03:05 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | my connection got lost | 03:05 |
| micahg | ok | 03:05 |
| micahg | try to right click in the video | 03:05 |
| micahg | do you have any options? | 03:05 |
| micahg | I don't use gnash, so I'm not sure what you'll get | 03:06 |
| micahg | oh, can you post lshw -C video to pastebin | 03:06 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | File, Edit View, Movie Control, Help | 03:06 |
| micahg | really, wow | 03:07 |
| micahg | ok | 03:07 |
| micahg | movie control | 03:07 |
| micahg | do you have anything abotu hardware acceleration | 03:07 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | MAybe Edit- Preferences | 03:10 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | There is something that says performance | 03:10 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | I click player | 03:11 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | under performance it asks max size of movie player | 03:11 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | library | 03:11 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | not player | 03:11 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | it is set to 8 | 03:11 |
| micahg | not sure | 03:11 |
| micahg | df -h | 03:12 |
| micahg | oops | 03:12 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | http://pastebin.com/m66fc0cd2 | 03:13 |
| micahg | lspci -vv -s 01:05.0 | 03:16 |
| micahg | I think it could be your video driver | 03:17 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | http://pastebin.com/m14b1b73e | 03:18 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | It went bad just like that? | 03:19 |
| micahg | well | 03:19 |
| micahg | what do you mean | 03:20 |
| micahg | did flash work before? | 03:20 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | Yes it worked before | 03:20 |
| micahg | before Jaunty? | 03:20 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | Yes and at the beginning of Jaunty | 03:21 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | It worked up until about a week ago. | 03:21 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | I am not sure what I did differently | 03:21 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | DVD's play just fine. | 03:23 |
| micahg | DVDs aren't flash | 03:24 |
| micahg | did you install a new flahsplayer? | 03:24 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | I know, but if my video driver was messed up would they play? | 03:24 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | I don't know. Just giving more info:) | 03:25 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | Gnash | 03:25 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | We went through that earlier. I am not sure if it was you, but someone was helping me | 03:26 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | remove swfdec and non free plugin | 03:26 |
| micahg | yeah I did | 03:26 |
| micahg | well | 03:26 |
| micahg | flash is resource intensive | 03:26 |
| micahg | take a look at /var/log/apt/term.log | 03:28 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | It worked when I was running XP. I read that Linux was a way to give an old PC new life. | 03:28 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | ok I will check that | 03:28 |
| micahg | see if anything was upgraded over the past week | 03:28 |
| micahg | ah | 03:28 |
| micahg | so it wasn't working on Linux? | 03:28 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | It was in the beginning. Up until about a week ago | 03:29 |
| micahg | ah | 03:29 |
| micahg | so check that log file | 03:30 |
| micahg | every version of flash is more resource intensive | 03:30 |
| micahg | other stuff should work just as well on an old pc | 03:30 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | I typed cd /var/log/apt/term.log and got an error | 03:30 |
| micahg | which version of ubuntu? | 03:31 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | jaunty | 03:31 |
| micahg | k x or regular | 03:31 |
| micahg | sorry, flavor | 03:31 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | I just installed it from the CD | 03:31 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | Gnome | 03:31 |
| micahg | ah | 03:31 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | I think | 03:31 |
| micahg | ok | 03:31 |
| micahg | sudo less /var/log/apt/term.log | 03:32 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | Did you want me to copy and paste what it says to pastebin? | 03:33 |
| micahg | nah, you can look through it and see if anything was updated like flash, firefox, graphics drivers | 03:34 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | It looks like it is stuck doing something | 03:35 |
| micahg | It could be the chipset is no longer supported | 03:36 |
| micahg | but it shouldn't have changed in teh past week | 03:36 |
| micahg | I think I've done all I can | 03:38 |
| micahg | you can hop inteh #ubuntu-x channel and see if they can help you with your video card | 03:38 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | My internet is acting up. | 03:40 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | What did i do with that? | 03:41 |
| micahg | what? | 03:41 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | That command that you gave me. It did a lot of stuff. | 03:42 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | The terminal will not let me copy and paste it. I had to keep hitting enter to get it to go through | 03:42 |
| micahg | no, it's a viewer | 03:42 |
| micahg | it's meant for you to scroll through | 03:42 |
| micahg | not copy and paste | 03:43 |
| micahg | hit q to get out | 03:43 |
| micahg | sorry | 03:43 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | Any ideas | 03:45 |
| micahg | for? | 03:45 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | for the mozilla flash problem | 03:47 |
| micahg | well | 03:48 |
| micahg | can you try hulu.com | 03:48 |
| micahg | is that any better? | 03:48 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | Does not work | 03:52 |
| micahg | same as youtube? | 03:53 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | Does not work at all | 03:54 |
| micahg | ugh | 03:56 |
| micahg | not sure what to say | 03:57 |
| micahg | you can try the adobe flash driver and see if it's any better | 03:57 |
| micahg | if that works, then you can file a bug report against gnash | 03:57 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | That is what I started with. | 03:58 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | I could reistall | 03:58 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | install | 03:58 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | Is the best way to do that at the adobe website? | 03:59 |
| micahg | no | 03:59 |
| micahg | install with the flashplugin-nonfree package | 03:59 |
| micahg | but remove gnash first | 03:59 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | ok can we go through the syntax again | 04:00 |
| micahg | command line? | 04:00 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | I guess. Whatever you think is best. | 04:00 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | Do you think ice weasel would work? | 04:01 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | or another browser? | 04:01 |
| micahg | iceweasel is debian's unbranded firefox | 04:01 |
| micahg | you can try epiphany | 04:01 |
| micahg | that's the gnome browser | 04:01 |
| micahg | that's a good idea :) | 04:01 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | Ok I will go to add/remove programs. Yes? | 04:02 |
| micahg | yes | 04:02 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | Do I install the Gecko one or the regular? | 04:05 |
| StevensUbuntuTr1 | or both? | 04:06 |
| micahg | epiphany-gecko | 04:06 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | ok all done. | 04:21 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | It is strange. I am having trouble finding it | 04:21 |
| micahg | well | 04:23 |
| micahg | just search for epiphany | 04:23 |
| micahg | and install the browser one | 04:23 |
| micahg | it'll instlal the right one | 04:23 |
| micahg | there is only one in Jaunty | 04:23 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | It says there are 2 to choose from on installation. one is Epiphany the other is Epiphany (Gecko) | 04:24 |
| micahg | yeah | 04:25 |
| micahg | either one will install the same thing | 04:25 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | It installed them both | 04:25 |
| micahg | yep | 04:25 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | for some reason. I cannot find it on my computer. | 04:25 |
| micahg | one's a transitional pacakge | 04:25 |
| micahg | use the gnome menu | 04:25 |
| micahg | Network -> Epiphany | 04:25 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | places - search for files cannont find it either | 04:27 |
| micahg | no | 04:28 |
| micahg | there should be a menu entry | 04:28 |
| micahg | in the gnome menu | 04:28 |
| micahg | under network | 04:28 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | I do not see network. | 04:29 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | When you say gnome menu, you just mean the menu at the top of the desktop | 04:29 |
| micahg | what do you have under the gnome menu? | 04:29 |
| micahg | yep | 04:29 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | I will remove then reinstall? | 04:30 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | or should I reboot? | 04:31 |
| micahg | no | 04:31 |
| micahg | what do you have in the menu on the top lefT? | 04:31 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | applications | 04:31 |
| micahg | ok | 04:32 |
| micahg | what's in application | 04:32 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | Accessories, Games, Graphics, internet, office, programming, sound and video, system tools, wine, add/remove | 04:33 |
| micahg | ok | 04:33 |
| micahg | under applications -> internet should be epiphany | 04:34 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | I know where it should be. It is not there | 04:34 |
| micahg | ok, try removing and reinstalling then | 04:35 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | ok | 04:35 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | I have no idea why it is not showing up in my gnome menu | 04:50 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | Can i open it from the terminal? | 04:50 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | bash: Epiphany: command not found | 04:51 |
| micahg | lower case :) | 04:51 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | ok it opened | 04:52 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | the video didn't work. It just looks like it is loading and does that forever | 04:54 |
| micahg | sorry, I"m out of ideas | 04:55 |
| micahg | you can try #ubuntu | 04:55 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | Well thank you for all of your help. | 04:55 |
| micahg | sorry I couldn't fixit | 04:56 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | no problem! I very much appreciate you spending the time trying! | 04:56 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | I will try the other channel tomorrow. Have a good night! | 04:57 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | One more detail that might help. You tube works perfectly when viewed within the Movie player. | 05:07 |
| micahg | movie player? | 05:08 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | Totem I think | 05:08 |
| micahg | ok | 05:09 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | I did that earlier today. I am trying to figure out how i did it. | 05:10 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | oh, click properties | 05:10 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | select youtube | 05:10 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | and search for a video. | 05:10 |
| StevensUbuntuTri | I thought that might help with the assessment | 05:18 |
| micahg | ok | 05:19 |
| micahg | thank you | 05:20 |
| micahg | hi gnomefreak | 07:48 |
| micahg | I'm down to 13 new messages in teh ff package | 07:48 |
| gnomefreak | hi micahg | 07:49 |
| * micahg is going to sleep | 07:50 | |
| gnomefreak | its only 02:51 | 07:51 |
| micahg | I have to be up early for work | 07:51 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: makes sense | 07:51 |
| gnomefreak | :) | 07:51 |
| micahg | it's 1:51 for me | 07:52 |
| micahg | I'll work more on the ff package over the weekend | 07:52 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: cool. starting monday i will be gone for around a week but as soon as i can get back i will | 07:53 |
| micahg | ok, I'll ping a sac if I need anything | 07:53 |
| micahg | gone for good things? | 07:54 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: surgery on my left eye and i will have right eye sometime after that | 07:54 |
| micahg | ok, well, I wish you a speedy recovery | 07:54 |
| gnomefreak | thanks | 07:55 |
| micahg | night | 07:55 |
| gnomefreak | night | 07:55 |
| gnomefreak | why is the live cd installer named ubiquity? Its early so forgive me but it sounded different when looked up the defintion | 08:12 |
| asac | moin | 09:09 |
| gnomefreak | morning | 09:11 |
| gnomefreak | asac: can you look at this bug, its sounding like flash doesnt work properly on lpia. not sure how to test without that arch. bug 383786 | 09:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 383786 in flashplugin-nonfree "adobe flash player won't play video on web" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/383786 | 09:12 |
| * gnomefreak goes fpr smoke | 09:13 | |
| asac | gnomefreak: looked. the bug doesnt sounds particular interesting ;) ... asked something | 09:31 |
| gnomefreak | asac: thanks i dont know what archs are supported | 09:36 |
| gnomefreak | this is a great bug bug 383841 i have commented on it using reply and it looks like it hasnt gotten there yet | 09:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 383841 in firefox-3.0 "bardella.mario@gmail.com" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/383841 | 09:37 |
| asac | hmm right. could be that lpia doesnt work | 09:48 |
| asac | asked in #ubuntu-mobile on what s up | 09:49 |
| asac | fta: FIREFOX_3_5b99_RELEASE | 10:08 |
| asac | buildd bustage | 11:03 |
| asac | ouch | 11:04 |
| asac | hmm still broken buildds | 12:10 |
| askand1 | Hi, I get constant crashes with firefox in Jaunty, here are three backtraces of three different crashes: http://filebin.ca/gwhzcs/traces.zip | 12:32 |
| asac | askand1: ok looking | 12:37 |
| asac | askand1: 1st is crash in flashplayer | 12:37 |
| asac | askand1: which flash version is that? | 12:38 |
| asac | try if you can still reproduce without flash | 12:39 |
| asac | (or with gnash et al) | 12:39 |
| askand1 | asac: I suspected that, Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22 | 12:41 |
| askand1 | is all crashes flashplayers fault? | 12:42 |
| asac | askand1: not sure. please disable flash and see if crashes still happen | 13:06 |
| askand1 | asac: disable=uninstall? | 13:08 |
| asac | askand1: yes, or disable it in tools -> plugins | 13:20 |
| asac | err tools -> addons -> plugins | 13:20 |
| askand1 | asac: uninstalled it now, running fine so far :) | 13:20 |
| asac | heh ok | 13:20 |
| askand1 | asac: and now it crashed again :) | 13:24 |
| askand1 | http://paste2.org/p/249083 | 13:25 |
| asac | askand1: what did you do when it crashed? | 13:28 |
| askand1 | reading an article in wikipedia | 13:30 |
| gnomefreak | askand1: are you posting your blog on twitter by chance? | 13:38 |
| askand1 | gnomefreak: nope | 13:41 |
| gnomefreak | damnit | 13:41 |
| gnomefreak | not you | 13:42 |
| gnomefreak | asac: are you posting to twitter or ident? | 13:42 |
| gnomefreak | ah theres coreutils kept back | 13:43 |
| asac | gnomefreak: to both | 13:43 |
| asac | identica gets forwarded to twitter | 13:43 |
| gnomefreak | thats why thanks | 13:43 |
| gnomefreak | you always turn up green when you should be purple | 13:44 |
| asac | gnomefreak: ah yeah. you should see both though (at lesat karmic version does) | 13:45 |
| gnomefreak | asac: im using daily builds and i dont see both | 13:46 |
| asac | not sure about dailies | 13:47 |
| * gnomefreak getting sice of this PGO bug :/ | 13:50 | |
| gnomefreak | asac: please comment on bug 213708 wether or not this will happen | 13:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 213708 in xulrunner "Please compile Firefox with PGO optimizations" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213708 | 13:51 |
| askand1 | asac: do you have an idea on what I can try next to debug this? | 13:52 |
| asac | askand1: please use strace -f -eopen firefox &> /tmp/log.txt and after startup and using a bit, please paste | 13:54 |
| asac | also be sure that you have no extensions in use | 13:54 |
| asac | but i think i already said that | 13:54 |
| asac | !info xulrunner | 13:54 |
| ubottu | xulrunner (source: xulrunner): XUL + XPCOM application runner. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.1.16+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 279 kB, installed size 1020 kB | 13:54 |
| asac | ok still here ;) | 13:54 |
| fta2 | asac, "buildds on manual", what does that mean? | 13:55 |
| asac | fta2: nothing gets build without buildd admins kicking them | 13:56 |
| asac | so manual builds triggered by hands | 13:56 |
| fta2 | bouahahah | 13:56 |
| asac | to avoid massive build failures ;) | 13:57 |
| asac | guess synching coreutils wasnt good ;) | 13:58 |
| askand1 | asac: http://paste2.org/p/249125 | 13:59 |
| asac | askand1: so you still have extensions? | 14:03 |
| asac | also some other extensions | 14:03 |
| asac | are you sure it happens if you remove those? | 14:03 |
| askand1 | oh, I reactivated them, will try without them again | 14:04 |
| gnomefreak | 0ubuntu1.respin1 <<what is the respin1 part for? and is it ours? | 14:06 |
| gnomefreak | its on xulrunner | 14:06 |
| asac | gnomefreak: ubuntu1 build happened when karmic archive was still broken | 14:07 |
| asac | (right after it opened) | 14:07 |
| asac | so i had a no change respin to fix issues | 14:07 |
| askand1 | asac: it still crashes | 14:07 |
| asac | askand1: does it happen with fresh profile? | 14:07 |
| asac | e.g. move .mozilla to a backup place befre starting ffox | 14:08 |
| asac | regular crashes like this are just unlikely | 14:08 |
| asac | if we had general issues like that it would definitly get more traction | 14:08 |
| askand1 | that is true | 14:08 |
| gnomefreak | askand1: ah ok thanks. Someone said its not upgrading bug 383857 i didnt get this bug for some reason | 14:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 383857 in xulrunner-1.9 "xulrunner-1.9 1.9.0.10+nobinonly-0ubuntu1.respin1 failed to install/upgrade " [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/383857 | 14:10 |
| askand1 | is it possible that memtest does not catch an error in my memorymodules? | 14:10 |
| askand1 | I should propably change my name ;) | 14:10 |
| asac | well. if it passes i would think its not hardware | 14:10 |
| asac | askand1: check fresh profile first | 14:10 |
| asac | askand1: then it can be graphics driver dependent | 14:10 |
| asac | or some other corner case causing this | 14:10 |
| asac | maybe even some bad fonts. which language/fonts are you using? | 14:11 |
| asac | those backtraces are not easy to understand because its in the cycle collectore which is not really something you can easily reproduce | 14:11 |
| asac | also the problem usually happens well up-front so the backtrace might not even touch the buggy code | 14:11 |
| askand1 | Im using droid sans and Swedish language | 14:12 |
| asac | askand1: so try fresh profile and let me know | 14:13 |
| asac | also get a backtrace from fresh profile | 14:13 |
| asac | once you still see that and have backtrace, you need to run firefox with valgrind | 14:13 |
| asac | maybe we can see where things go bad there | 14:13 |
| askand1 | asac: um..gdb segfaulted | 14:15 |
| asac | askand1: use firefox -g to start ffox in debugger | 14:16 |
| asac | (not that it matters much here ;)) | 14:16 |
| askand1 | gdb crashed again :S | 14:17 |
| gnomefreak | calendar-google-provider is borked just what i needed | 14:18 |
| asac | gnomefreak: what are you working on atm? | 14:18 |
| gnomefreak | bugs | 14:18 |
| asac | good ;) | 14:18 |
| asac | thought you worked on iceowl/sunbird | 14:18 |
| askand1 | asac: finally a bug that is 100% reproducable :) | 14:19 |
| gnomefreak | not today | 14:19 |
| gnomefreak | calendar-google-provider causing crashes in sunbird and lightning but i wont have time to look at it for the next week. is calendar-google-provider happen to be upstreams extension. its built into our source package but would love to file it upstream if i can. but i need to look at it first | 14:20 |
| asac | askand1: are you on karmic or jaunty or what? | 14:24 |
| gnomefreak | it has buildd errors :) | 14:24 |
| gnomefreak | ill look at it in a week or few | 14:25 |
| askand1 | asac: jaunty | 14:25 |
| asac | askand1: ok graphics driver is? | 14:34 |
| askand1 | nvidia | 14:36 |
| asac | askand1: try nv driver | 14:52 |
| gnomefreak | nvidia is borked in Karmic it seems there is no *-restricted-modules package for 2.6.30* | 14:55 |
| gnomefreak | it fails to build modules | 14:55 |
| gnomefreak | bug has been reported already but yet other than changing the descriptiopn noone has looked at it :) | 14:56 |
| * gnomefreak smoke | 14:57 | |
| asac | thats normal ;) | 15:01 |
| asac | proprietary drivers are regularly not available for the first half of the cycle ;) | 15:02 |
| gnomefreak | true but ATI works | 15:03 |
| gnomefreak | AFAIK its just nvidia on 2.6.30 | 15:03 |
| gnomefreak | my dog will hug you but damn if she will come when called instead she runs away :( | 15:04 |
| gnomefreak | we need a way to sync firefox profiles so we dont hav to update manually. if you use 3.0 more than 3.5 than sync is great or something of the sort | 15:06 |
| gnomefreak | bzr branch lp:~gnomefreak/seamonkey/ubuntu-2.x-9.10 | 15:06 |
| gnomefreak | oh damnit | 15:07 |
| gnomefreak | too many terminals open | 15:07 |
| asac | gnomefreak: what do you mean with sync firefox profiles? | 15:07 |
| gnomefreak | asac: say you use 3.0 more than 3.5. well 3.0 has all your most recent work. atm your choices are cp -r profile or move profile manually. syncing it would take those 2 ways and do it itself | 15:09 |
| gnomefreak | or something of the sort | 15:09 |
| gnomefreak | make sense? | 15:10 |
| asac | ah ok. | 15:11 |
| asac | yeah we need something like weave for that | 15:11 |
| asac | not sure if there is still any work done in that labs project | 15:11 |
| gnomefreak | yes there is | 15:12 |
| gnomefreak | the mailing lists are flooded with weave crap | 15:12 |
| * gnomefreak still not real sure what the hell it does | 15:12 | |
| gnomefreak | i hope the SM2 build failure was my fault with patches | 15:16 |
| asac | gnomefreak: weave allows you to sync your places stuff | 15:16 |
| gnomefreak | going to try today and than worry about it when i return | 15:17 |
| gnomefreak | asac: ah | 15:17 |
| gnomefreak | "will 9.10 collide with win7 release" i got that from someon ein #ubuntu+1 almost like we care about win7 release. hell i must have missed win1-6 | 15:18 |
| gnomefreak | 5600 files updated, 0 files merged, 0 files removed, 0 files unresolved :) | 15:19 |
| asac | not sure how we can coolide with win7 | 15:23 |
| asac | more details needed to say anything | 15:23 |
| gnomefreak | vista was released 2 years late so i dont see this being an issue even if Ubuntu cared about win releases | 15:24 |
| gnomefreak | the day i pick to work on SM2 and karmic chroots have been removed from PPA | 15:25 |
| gnomefreak | that explains lack of daily updates | 15:25 |
| asac | yeas ppas ar ebusted | 15:28 |
| asac | like buildd ;) | 15:28 |
| fta2 | fixed | 15:29 |
| gnomefreak | yep oh well if it buuilds here ill upload it and it will just build when PPA are back up and running | 15:29 |
| gnomefreak | fta2: buildds are fixed? | 15:29 |
| fta2 | Preparing to replace coreutils 7.3-1build1 (using .../coreutils_7.4-2_amd64.deb) ... | 15:29 |
| fta2 | Unpacking replacement coreutils ... | 15:29 |
| fta2 | Replacing files in old package mktemp ... | 15:29 |
| fta2 | Processing triggers for man-db ... | 15:29 |
| fta2 | Setting up coreutils (7.4-2) ... | 15:29 |
| gnomefreak | cool thanks :) | 15:30 |
| fta2 | so i guess the ppas will follow soon enough | 15:30 |
| asac | fta2: -2 was uploaded 12 hours ago | 15:31 |
| asac | sure that that wasnt the version causing the pain? | 15:31 |
| gnomefreak | sounds like only hppa but not real sure havent been following topic too much | 15:31 |
| gnomefreak | coreutils 7.4-2 is the fixed version | 15:31 |
| gnomefreak | mercurial mercurial-common is now the only held back packages | 15:32 |
| gnomefreak | ok gone for a bit. ~1-3hours | 15:35 |
| asac | enjoy friday. cu tomorrow | 16:31 |
| micahg | asac: fix Released should only be for bugs that were confirmed to be issues, right? | 17:10 |
| micahg | bdmurray: ^^^ | 17:18 |
| askand | asac: hi, nvidia removed and crashing continues | 20:26 |
| askand | asac: will try to reinstall ubuntu | 21:08 |
| BUGabundo | guud evening | 21:09 |
| askand | evening BUGabundo | 21:10 |
| fta | stevel, that was from there: http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/linux/113/ | 21:11 |
| BUGabundo | fta: I had something to ask you , but I forgot | 21:13 |
| BUGabundo | lets see if I remember | 21:13 |
| BUGabundo | ahhh got it | 21:13 |
| BUGabundo | fta: you said you don't know python, so what coding languages do you use/master? | 21:13 |
| fta | C, perl and shell are my preferred languages | 21:14 |
| dtchen | don't ask fta about firefox's debian/rules ;) | 21:14 |
| fta | BUGabundo, but i know a whole lot more | 21:14 |
| fta | dtchen, this one is probably better: http://paste.ubuntu.com/189204/ ;) | 21:15 |
| BUGabundo | dtchen: is that for me? why shouldn't I ask fta about that? | 21:15 |
| fta | i should add make to the list | 21:17 |
| dtchen | bahaha | 21:18 |
| BUGabundo | LOL | 21:19 |
| mbana | i'm starting to believe that firefox is using bitmapped ver. of ARial | 21:27 |
| mbana | 3.1 | 21:27 |
| fta | hmm, tricky.. i need to run a test file, in both gdb and xvfb and protected by a timeout | 21:44 |
| fta | timeout 20 xvfb-run gdb ./ui_tests | 21:52 |
| fta | seems ok.. let's try with the buildd | 21:53 |
| dtchen | asac: / fta: i can add that 3.0.11 works fine on jaunty and intrepid, too | 21:57 |
| fta | dtchen, did you have a chance to play with my bot yet? | 22:47 |
| dtchen | fta: not yet, will be next week | 22:59 |
| fta | ok | 23:01 |
| ryanprior | Hey there. I just installed the firefox-3.1 package and now Firefox won't start. I asked moznet/firefox and they say that your packaged version, 3.1a2, is very out-of-date and that I should ask you for help. How do I get a recent, working package? | 23:09 |
| fta | indeed, 3.1a2 is very old, where did you get that from? | 23:09 |
| ryanprior | from your PPA | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | humm you mean 3.5 ? | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | fta: did you update/remove from your ppa? | 23:10 |
| fta | hm, no but it's not that old, or is it? | 23:10 |
| fta | 3.5~b4~hg20090330r24021+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1 0 | 23:11 |
| fta | old indeed but not that old | 23:11 |
| fta | 3.5~hg20090603r25856+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 0 | 23:11 |
| fta | ryanprior, did you read the whiteboard of my ppa? | 23:12 |
| ryanprior | fta: Probably not, lemme RTFM and brb. | 23:12 |
| BUGabundo | ryanprior: you are better of with mozilla team PPA or daily PPA | 23:13 |
| ryanprior | fta: I see now that I made a communication error. | 23:13 |
| ryanprior | When I said "your PPA" I actually meant "from mozilla-team's PPA" | 23:13 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 23:13 |
| ryanprior | I enabled mozilla team's PPA, then installed the firefox-3.1 package | 23:14 |
| fta | oh, yeah, that ppa is unmaintained :( | 23:14 |
| ryanprior | That's too bad, I figured it would be the authoritative one. :-( | 23:14 |
| ryanprior | Whose PPA should I use? | 23:15 |
| fta | the freshest things we have are in https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa | 23:15 |
| BUGabundo | fta: too much work to upgrade MT PPA ? | 23:15 |
| fta | BUGabundo, yes, at least for me | 23:16 |
| fta | especially since i started chromium | 23:17 |
| BUGabundo | I bet | 23:17 |
| BUGabundo | one more bot managing certain mile stones? | 23:17 |
| BUGabundo | fta: what was that all about, when google _recommend_ linux and mac user not to install Chrome ? | 23:17 |
| ryanprior | Okay, I'm using the daily updates one now. | 23:18 |
| ryanprior | BUGabundo: they said "don't install it... unless you're a tester and like programs that crash" | 23:18 |
| fta | BUGabundo, just to stay on the safe side, it means "it's not complete, so if you use it, don't complain to us" ;) | 23:18 |
| BUGabundo | I got that too | 23:19 |
| BUGabundo | but news sites, are making it sound worse | 23:19 |
| BUGabundo | its like crazy ppl installing Karmic | 23:19 |
| BUGabundo | oh wait, I'm running that too | 23:19 |
| BUGabundo | fta: so now we will have chrome and chromium on Linux ? | 23:19 |
| fta | hm, sort of. chromium only from downstream, and chrome only from google | 23:20 |
| fta | but it's 99.99% the same | 23:20 |
| BUGabundo | ok | 23:21 |
| BUGabundo | thanks for clearing that up | 23:21 |
| fta | well, chromium is built from source on each distro, while chrome is just a binary blog you're getting from google built who knows how | 23:21 |
| fta | it's probably built on hardy | 23:22 |
| BUGabundo | heehehheeheh | 23:22 |
| fta | the only missing part is the google updater but we don't want that anyway | 23:22 |
| fta | and the branding, but i kind of like the blue one, more relaxing | 23:23 |
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