| MythbuntuGuest22 | I have a pvr 500 with a samsung tuner and I cant get video on /dev/video0 ( 1 works fine) | 02:15 |
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| MythbuntuGuest22 | I am runny jaunty Mythbuntu on a amd 64 dell. | 02:16 |
| MythbuntuGuest22 | it was working like a champ under MCE. | 02:16 |
| MythbuntuGuest22 | I have looked at a lot of post about the samsung tuner but am not sure where to turn. | 02:17 |
| MythbuntuGuest22 | Any Ideas ? should I try intrepid instead? | 02:17 |
| MythbuntuGuest22 | thanks Eric Smith | 02:17 |
| merlin^ | Okay so I loaded mythbuntu, latest version, and when I try to go to set up the backend ( http://turl.ca/mythbackend ) it goes to a blank screen with a box ( http://turl.ca/mythfail ) and sits.. then if I hit escape it goes to a blank-ish screen ( http://turl.ca/mythblank ) and sits.... trust me, I wait a LONG time (like go make a pizza) for something to appear... This is on a fresh install on a decent machine with a Radeon 7000 video card. Any th | 06:08 |
| === TheLiQuid3 is now known as TheLiQuid | ||
| merlin^ | Okay howabout this? What's the most popular AGP video card that works with mythbuntu? | 06:45 |
| MythbuntuGuest72 | hi | 14:42 |
| MythbuntuGuest72 | anyone here in the chatroom? | 14:42 |
| MythbuntuGuest72 | I have a myth question | 14:42 |
| MythbuntuGuest72 | !help | 14:43 |
| Zinn | !help For a complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number]. | 14:43 |
| MythbuntuGuest72 | I have it setup but there is only blue background when I went to apple trailer | 14:43 |
| henrik__ | seems like there is some trubble with the weekly server | 16:41 |
| henrik__ | http://weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mythplugins/mytharchive_0.21.0+fixes20673-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu2_i386.deb 404 Not Found | 16:41 |
| superm1 | henrik__, hm wonder if it's just in the middle of mirroring | 16:45 |
| henrik__ | okej cause jaunty works fine! | 16:49 |
| henrik__ | it does not work for 9.04 | 16:49 |
| henrik__ | sorry the other way around.. 9.04 works 8.10 does not.. | 16:50 |
| henrik__ | superm1, have you heard any problems with the previous fixes? | 16:50 |
| henrik__ | Ever since I installed it I have been having alot of trubble... my xorg has died on me | 16:50 |
| henrik__ | and I have got the whole screen green after about 10 min of watching, if I go back to the menu the screen is as usual. | 16:51 |
| henrik__ | I'm on a nvidia card | 16:51 |
| superm1 | no i've not heard this | 16:54 |
| superm1 | generally -fixes doesn't cause that kind of stuff.. | 16:54 |
| henrik__ | superm1, I think I found the problem... my gf card is not working.. can you please release a fix for that?? :P | 17:33 |
| === ronn_o is now known as ron_o | ||
| hansoffate | Hi, my commflag jobs aren't running for some reason | 20:16 |
| hansoffate | I just upgraded from intrepid to jaunty, but it was broken before hand | 20:16 |
| hansoffate | I think it may have been because my mysql database got corrupt, but since then I've repaired the tables | 20:16 |
| hansoffate | any ideas what could be causing this? | 20:16 |
| Blz | Hello! I have a few questions regarding the transition to digital broadcast, specifically as it concerns digital/analog simulcasting over cable | 20:28 |
| Blz | I'm in the US | 20:28 |
| Blz | I'd like to know if digital tuners will be needed to record digital cable without a settop box (this is for SDTV) | 20:29 |
| Blz | or if I can use my current PVR-150 | 20:29 |
| rhpot1991 | Blz: depends on your cable provider, if they keep analog you can keep using your 150, if not you will need a converter box or a new tuner | 20:41 |
| rhpot1991 | !digital conversion | Blz | 20:41 |
| Zinn | Blz: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Digital_Television | 20:41 |
| Blz | rhpot1991: okay that's what I figured. now assuming they don't keep analog. Can a digital tuner read a digital cable stream or is that entirely different? | 20:42 |
| Blz | and thanks for the link. i'll check that out right away | 20:42 |
| rhpot1991 | depends on the stream, odds are it will be mostly encrypted and you will need some sort of box to receive them | 20:42 |
| Blz | ugh. figures. I guess I'm probably better off calling them and asking | 20:43 |
| rhpot1991 | for instance with my comcast I can get my locals with a digital tuner, but pretty much everything else I need to use the stb or an analog card for SD | 20:43 |
| Blz | rhpot1991: out of curiosity, how much latency does using the STB cause? | 20:43 |
| Blz | i'm assuming you use an IR blaster? | 20:43 |
| rhpot1991 | I do firewire actually | 20:44 |
| Blz | oh okay | 20:44 |
| Blz | and how's the latency on that? | 20:44 |
| rhpot1991 | but thats hit or miss, I can record most channels but not all | 20:44 |
| rhpot1991 | also I'm pretty luck in that requard as I understand it | 20:44 |
| rhpot1991 | reguard | 20:44 |
| Blz | yeah i've heard some people have zero luck with that | 20:44 |
| Blz | now if i use my pvr150 and a STB w/ IR blaster, that'll allow me to watch, record everything, right? | 20:45 |
| rhpot1991 | all recordings will be a few seconds behind, as you are recording to the hard drive, and then watching from there | 20:45 |
| rhpot1991 | Blz: should be able to, will only be SD of course | 20:45 |
| hansoffate | won't the pvr150 not be working soon, at least in the US because of the digital cut over | 20:45 |
| hansoffate | ? | 20:45 |
| hansoffate | doesn't it only record analog | 20:45 |
| rhpot1991 | if your cable company stops giving you analog hansoffate | 20:46 |
| rhpot1991 | some are some aren't | 20:46 |
| hansoffate | hmm | 20:46 |
| hansoffate | interesting, we'll see | 20:46 |
| rhpot1991 | some of them are going digital only and giving you a "free" stb to compensate | 20:46 |
| Blz | hansoffate: yes, but we're talking about either recording an analog simulcast of digital cable or recording the output of a STB | 20:46 |
| rhpot1991 | I've heard of some that are moving some of those channels to clear QAM too, I'd love that | 20:46 |
| Blz | oh are they? | 20:46 |
| Blz | probably not comcast though | 20:46 |
| rhpot1991 | IIRC it was comcast out west | 20:46 |
| Blz | since they can't even leave bittorrent alone without a lawsuit | 20:46 |
| rhpot1991 | :) | 20:47 |
| hansoffate | yea, i already got an HD STB to record my HD shows, but I use my pvr500 to record alot of non-hd shows that are on at the same time. When they cut over, I won't be able to record multiple shows at the same time, unless the pvr500 works | 20:47 |
| hansoffate | Yea, I have comcast | 20:47 |
| rhpot1991 | Blz: they can't give me a working interweb conenction or a TV image that doesn't ghost either :( | 20:47 |
| rhpot1991 | they have to give you notice about cutting out analog I am pretty sure | 20:47 |
| Blz | this is going to be a huge pain | 20:47 |
| rhpot1991 | most likely on your bill | 20:48 |
| Blz | hmm | 20:48 |
| rhpot1991 | I'd say don't worry about it till it happens | 20:48 |
| hansoffate | rhpot1991: do you have any idea about my issue I posted above. My commflag jobs aren't running. I can see them in the queue on mythweb though. | 20:48 |
| rhpot1991 | hansoffate: restarted the backend since the issues came up? | 20:48 |
| hansoffate | yup, and the computer | 20:48 |
| hansoffate | also repaired the mysql tables | 20:48 |
| rhpot1991 | go into the info center and see if they are listed in there? | 20:49 |
| rhpot1991 | I've seen them get junked up and the old ones report as still running or being around but it has since moved on and ran new copies | 20:49 |
| hansoffate | I can't right now, but I will when I can. I'm at work right now so I'm trying to fix it via SSH | 20:49 |
| rhpot1991 | hansoffate: you are positive that new ones are not running? | 20:49 |
| rhpot1991 | sounds like maybe it has a job thats stuck, and it thinks its still running and holding up the queue in the process | 20:50 |
| hansoffate | yea, I press Z and it says commercials haven't been flagged | 20:50 |
| hansoffate | how would I delete the job? | 20:50 |
| hansoffate | through info center? | 20:50 |
| hansoffate | never had an issue with comm flag so I've never really played around with it | 20:50 |
| rhpot1991 | you can prob hop in to mythtv-setup and make sure that commflagging/jobs/etc are enabled | 20:50 |
| rhpot1991 | hansoffate: ya, you can delete pause etc in there | 20:50 |
| hansoffate | yea, i've done that and it is enabled | 20:50 |
| hansoffate | ok cool | 20:50 |
| Blz | Sorry to interrupt, but can either of you recommend a well-supported digital tuner card? dual tuners are preferred | 20:51 |
| rhpot1991 | can do a ps aux |grep mythcommflag and see whats going on too | 20:51 |
| hansoffate | I might try to SSH tunnel mythfrontend and try doing that. | 20:51 |
| rhpot1991 | Blz: HDHR | 20:51 |
| hansoffate | kk | 20:51 |
| rhpot1991 | hansoffate: | 20:51 |
| Blz | rhpot1991: is that the model or the brand? also, I'm watching SDTV | 20:51 |
| rhpot1991 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythExport_old | 20:51 |
| rhpot1991 | scroll down to MythTV Configuration | 20:51 |
| rhpot1991 | I have images of the setup page that has the commflag switch in there, check to make sure its still enabled | 20:52 |
| hansoffate | mythtv 6373 0.0 0.0 1872 152 ? S Jun02 0:00 sh -c /usr/bin/mythcommflag -j 698 -V 3 | 20:52 |
| hansoffate | mythtv 6374 0.5 2.1 171036 43932 ? DNl Jun02 21:35 /usr/bin/mythcommflag -j 698 -V 3 | 20:52 |
| hansoffate | 1000 13334 0.0 0.0 3336 804 pts/1 R<+ 12:51 0:00 grep mythcommflag | 20:52 |
| hansoffate | mythtv 15817 0.0 0.0 1872 500 ? S Jun04 0:00 sh -c /usr/bin/mythcommflag -j 698 -V 3 | 20:52 |
| hansoffate | mythtv 15818 0.3 4.8 171204 100952 ? DNl Jun04 2:52 /usr/bin/mythcommflag -j 698 -V 3 | 20:52 |
| hansoffate | woops, sorry for the flood, shoulda pastebin that | 20:52 |
| rhpot1991 | Blz: http://www.silicondust.com/products/hdhomerun | 20:52 |
| rhpot1991 | with SD only you are prob better blasting to a converter box though | 20:52 |
| Blz | thank you! | 20:53 |
| Blz | rhpot1991: why is that? | 20:53 |
| rhpot1991 | there are some hauppauge dual tunners that do analog and digital that might help too | 20:53 |
| Blz | oh. i'll look into that | 20:53 |
| rhpot1991 | Blz: you'd only be able to capture unencrypted channels with the HDHR, and IR blasting to the converter boxes isn't supposed to be that hard | 20:54 |
| hansoffate | rhpot1991: are you reallly born in 1991? | 20:54 |
| rhpot1991 | nope | 20:54 |
| hansoffate | oh | 20:54 |
| hansoffate | lol | 20:54 |
| Blz | makes sense. I'm just worried abuot lag. that can be quite anoying | 20:54 |
| hansoffate | i'd say, you're pretty damn knowledgeable about linux for being a 90's kiddy | 20:54 |
| Zinn | hansoffate: Please watch your language. | 20:54 |
| Blz | *annoying,e ven | 20:54 |
| hansoffate | woops | 20:54 |
| Blz | kiddy bad language? | 20:54 |
| hansoffate | amn knowledgable | 20:55 |
| hansoffate | i thought it was kiddy too at first | 20:55 |
| hansoffate | lol | 20:55 |
| * rhpot1991 tells zinn its ok | 20:56 | |
| hansoffate | lol | 20:56 |
| hansoffate | d amn shouldn't be a bad word, they use it all the time on TV | 20:56 |
| rhpot1991 | Blz: I like to look at most things as in what can it get you, firewire is a hugeheadache, but I can record things like USA/discovery HD/etc | 20:57 |
| rhpot1991 | so its prob worth the effort of IR blasting to a converter box if you can keep those 70 some channels you have now instead of reducing to 7 | 20:57 |
| hansoffate | I'm using firewire for my HD STB and it surprisingly works really well | 20:57 |
| hansoffate | I can get most of the channels | 20:57 |
| rhpot1991 | maybe they wont cut out analog for you and it wont be an issue in the end | 20:57 |
| rhpot1991 | hansoffate: it works well till you accidentailly tune to a channel you can't record and your backend goes down :( | 20:58 |
| rhpot1991 | has random hiccups too | 20:58 |
| Blz | yeah i guess the first order of business is to call Comcast | 20:58 |
| Blz | thanks for the help thoguh guys | 20:58 |
| Blz | it definitely clears some things up | 20:58 |
| rhpot1991 | Blz: good luck getting any useful info :) | 20:58 |
| Blz | i know... | 20:58 |
| hansoffate | yea, I was surprised that comcast had so many unrestricted channels thorugh their STB with firewire | 20:58 |
| Blz | i mean i have nothing against India and Indians | 20:58 |
| rhpot1991 | hansoffate: depends on your area | 20:58 |
| Blz | but tech support... | 20:59 |
| Blz | oh man... | 20:59 |
| rhpot1991 | for me I can get most HD channels, and thats all I really care about anymore | 20:59 |
| hansoffate | but ive definitely had the backend go down because ive accidently tried to record something on Cartoon Network HD, which we don't have | 20:59 |
| hansoffate | Yup, same. | 20:59 |
| rhpot1991 | between that and my HDHR for OTA channels I can't watch everything I record | 20:59 |
| rhpot1991 | Blz: I've learned a lesson with comcast recently, get anything important in writing... | 21:00 |
| hansoffate | so whats the point of getting HDHR, if I can get all the OTA channels via comcast thorugh the firewire? | 21:00 |
| rhpot1991 | they randomly have "no record" of a 6 month refund I was supposed to receive | 21:00 |
| hansoffate | wow | 21:00 |
| hansoffate | thats a lot of fmoney | 21:00 |
| rhpot1991 | hansoffate: 2 tunners for ~$150 that just work | 21:01 |
| rhpot1991 | I had many a nights where I sat down to watch TV to realize that something went wrong with the firewire and I missed the whole night | 21:01 |
| Blz | rhpot1991: good point. that way if they give me bad advice I can ream them out | 21:01 |
| rhpot1991 | plus this way when comcast makes me angry I can just get an antenna and move on, can't sell my wife on that yet though | 21:02 |
| hansoffate | rhpot1991: yea, ive definitely missed all my programs on thursday nights a few times because the firewire somehow got slightly disconnected. it really sucks. | 21:02 |
| rhpot1991 | exactly | 21:02 |
| hansoffate | lol | 21:02 |
| hansoffate | yea | 21:02 |
| rhpot1991 | after having that happen a few times I only use firewire when I need it, that way if I need to recover a recording from the interwebs its normally only one by the time I realize something went wrong | 21:03 |
| hansoffate | my roommate keeps pushing me to reload my mythbuntu system to Vista or Windows 7 to use MCE. I always tell him that's never going to happen. My mythbuntu system is the powerhouse and server of our house. It has so many backend servers running, I wouldn't be able to replicate all the functionality that one system has on a Windows system. | 21:04 |
| rhpot1991 | I like owning my recordings thank you :) | 21:05 |
| hansoffate | mce windows owns your recordigns? | 21:05 |
| rhpot1991 | from what I've heard you can't just move them around or do what you want with them | 21:06 |
| hansoffate | hmm, interesting. but you cna't really do that with mythtv either. | 21:06 |
| hansoffate | i mean, i've had my mysql tables get corrupt, and I coudln't play anything recorded | 21:07 |
| hansoffate | so i tried to watch them directly from /var/???/mythtv/recordings and the titles are so unreadable | 21:07 |
| rhpot1991 | sure you can, you can just pick up your recordings and move them elsewhere | 21:07 |
| hansoffate | but eventually I found the tv show I wanted to watch, and was able to watch it | 21:07 |
| rhpot1991 | well ya they aren't in human readable names, you can rename them if you want | 21:07 |
| hansoffate | yea | 21:07 |
| rhpot1991 | /usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend/contrib/mythrename.pl.gz | 21:08 |
| rhpot1991 | extract that, and use it | 21:08 |
| hansoffate | ooo. no idea that exsisted. cool | 21:08 |
| hansoffate | existed* | 21:09 |
| hansoffate | alright, enough of a break. got to go back to reloading this vista system >.< | 21:09 |
| hansoffate | tech support ftw | 21:09 |
| rhpot1991 | have fun with that | 21:10 |
| hansoffate | Oh, I will. lol. At least I get paid for watching blue bars all day :) | 21:11 |
| Blz | RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE | 21:18 |
| Blz | well... Comcast is stopping the analog simulcast once the digital switch takes place | 21:18 |
| Blz | and their broadcast is QAM encrypted | 21:18 |
| Blz | so I guess I have a few questions about using a set top box with myth | 21:19 |
| Blz | mainly... if I use the IR blaster and then plug the STB output into my PVR150: A) Can I use on-demand? B) Will I be using the tv guide from the comcast box or provided by myth (i.e. schedules direct) | 21:20 |
| rhpot1991 | you can try to use on demand, the delay is gonna make it tricky | 21:21 |
| rhpot1991 | and I always use schedules direct data, you could use the comcast data for on screen, but you can't for scheduling or anything | 21:22 |
| rhpot1991 | that answer that question? | 21:22 |
| rhpot1991 | did they offer you a converter or stb or anything for free? | 21:22 |
| Blz | yeah that makes sense | 21:24 |
| Blz | no they didn't offer anything | 21:24 |
| Blz | i mean the stb is included | 21:24 |
| Blz | and they don't have a digital simulcast, they're just taking it away | 21:25 |
| rhpot1991 | "For no extra charge, Comcast will provide customers in the affected areas with one advanced digital set-top box that can access on-demand programming, and up to two low-end boxes that will need to be paired with digital terminal adapters (DTAs)." | 21:26 |
| rhpot1991 | I see in articles about them making the switch out west | 21:26 |
| rhpot1991 | they normally include 1 SD stb | 21:27 |
| rhpot1991 | then charget you +$6.50 to upgrade each one to HD | 21:27 |
| rhpot1991 | and charge you +$8.90 extra outlet per box | 21:27 |
| * rhpot1991 has fought with comcast about billing too much as of recently | 21:27 | |
| Blz | wait... maybe i'm missing your point, but how does this affect me? I'm recording sdtv | 21:28 |
| Blz | and I have one set top box included in my contract | 21:28 |
| Blz | i just don't use it | 21:28 |
| Blz | but i will | 21:28 |
| rhpot1991 | ya if they cut off analog, then you need a box for every hookup | 21:28 |
| Blz | right okay. | 21:28 |
| Blz | i guess i should see if they have any offers in my area | 21:29 |
| Blz | maybe i'll hook up another set | 21:29 |
| rhpot1991 | you can claim they are taking away service and they should give you a box per each analog "device" you have | 21:29 |
| rhpot1991 | then you can have one for your tv, one for your pvr-150, etc | 21:29 |
| Blz | that's a good point | 21:29 |
| Blz | yeah. i bet i could even buy a second pvr150 for cheap now that the conversion is iminent | 21:30 |
| rhpot1991 | just watch that they don't try to randomly charge you | 21:30 |
| rhpot1991 | I hear they can be had for cheap on ebay | 21:30 |
| rhpot1991 | impossible to find new ones though | 21:30 |
| Blz | no big deal | 21:30 |
| Blz | those things are pretty robust | 21:30 |
| Blz | i'll need a second blaster too | 21:30 |
| Blz | now just to be clear, myth automatically pick which card to use and routs commands to the apropriate blaster, right? | 21:31 |
| rhpot1991 | I believe so | 21:31 |
| rhpot1991 | I don't blast so I'm a bad one to tell you for sure | 21:31 |
| rhpot1991 | if your box has firewire you can change channels via that very easily too | 21:31 |
| rhpot1991 | and it should be more accurate than blasting | 21:32 |
| Blz | i thought you said firewire support was problematic? | 21:32 |
| Blz | oooh you were talking about firewire output, right? | 21:32 |
| rhpot1991 | ya | 21:36 |
| rhpot1991 | if you try to tune to an encrypted channel, bad things happen | 21:36 |
| rhpot1991 | normally loses connection and then you miss the rest of your recordings | 21:36 |
| rhpot1991 | but for channel changing, that doesn't matter | 21:36 |
| rhpot1991 | it just blasts a signal to the box which changes channels, then you capture your analog signal coming out of that | 21:37 |
| Blz | rhpot1991: and that should work with any box that has a firewire port? | 21:42 |
| rhpot1991 | Blz: provided its enabled | 21:42 |
| rhpot1991 | motorolla? | 21:42 |
| Blz | rhpot1991: yeah | 21:42 |
| rhpot1991 | are you in front of it now? | 21:42 |
| Blz | no. I'm actually not in the apartment | 21:43 |
| Blz | but it's black lol | 21:43 |
| Blz | i'm sure they all are | 21:43 |
| rhpot1991 | you can google later, but you hit power then enter/select/whatever the middle button is | 21:43 |
| rhpot1991 | and it should take you to the diagnostic screen | 21:43 |
| rhpot1991 | in the menus there you can view the status, it should say something i394 enabled | 21:43 |
| Blz | okay I'll check that out | 21:44 |
| Blz | i think it's this one: http://www.yourtownscable.com/images/cablebox_motorola.jpg | 21:44 |
| Blz | i dunno if that looks familiar to you | 21:44 |
| rhpot1991 | by FCC law they have to give you a stb that has firewire enabled and has access to the local channels, not really enforced though | 21:44 |
| rhpot1991 | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/FireWire#FCC_regulations | 21:45 |
| Blz | i thought that was only for hd boxes | 21:46 |
| Blz | yeah it's only for HD boxes | 21:47 |
| Blz | alright | 21:47 |
| Blz | I'll have to look into this more | 21:48 |
| Blz | thanks for the help though | 21:48 |
| rhpot1991 | no problem, good luck | 21:48 |
| Blz | thanks. i'll be back for sure | 21:48 |
| Blz | I'll call out your name until you show up lol | 21:48 |
| hansoffate | ugh, only 5 more hours of work >.< | 22:36 |
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