[02:15] I have a pvr 500 with a samsung tuner and I cant get video on /dev/video0 ( 1 works fine) [02:16] I am runny jaunty Mythbuntu on a amd 64 dell. [02:16] it was working like a champ under MCE. [02:17] I have looked at a lot of post about the samsung tuner but am not sure where to turn. [02:17] Any Ideas ? should I try intrepid instead? [02:17] thanks Eric Smith [06:08] Okay so I loaded mythbuntu, latest version, and when I try to go to set up the backend ( http://turl.ca/mythbackend ) it goes to a blank screen with a box ( http://turl.ca/mythfail ) and sits.. then if I hit escape it goes to a blank-ish screen ( http://turl.ca/mythblank ) and sits.... trust me, I wait a LONG time (like go make a pizza) for something to appear... This is on a fresh install on a decent machine with a Radeon 7000 video card. Any th === TheLiQuid3 is now known as TheLiQuid [06:45] Okay howabout this? What's the most popular AGP video card that works with mythbuntu? [14:42] hi [14:42] anyone here in the chatroom? [14:42] I have a myth question [14:43] !help [14:43] !help For a complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number]. [14:43] I have it setup but there is only blue background when I went to apple trailer [16:41] seems like there is some trubble with the weekly server [16:41] http://weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mythplugins/mytharchive_0.21.0+fixes20673-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu2_i386.deb 404 Not Found [16:45] henrik__, hm wonder if it's just in the middle of mirroring [16:49] okej cause jaunty works fine! [16:49] it does not work for 9.04 [16:50] sorry the other way around.. 9.04 works 8.10 does not.. [16:50] superm1, have you heard any problems with the previous fixes? [16:50] Ever since I installed it I have been having alot of trubble... my xorg has died on me [16:51] and I have got the whole screen green after about 10 min of watching, if I go back to the menu the screen is as usual. [16:51] I'm on a nvidia card [16:54] no i've not heard this [16:54] generally -fixes doesn't cause that kind of stuff.. [17:33] superm1, I think I found the problem... my gf card is not working.. can you please release a fix for that?? :P === ronn_o is now known as ron_o [20:16] Hi, my commflag jobs aren't running for some reason [20:16] I just upgraded from intrepid to jaunty, but it was broken before hand [20:16] I think it may have been because my mysql database got corrupt, but since then I've repaired the tables [20:16] any ideas what could be causing this? [20:28] Hello! I have a few questions regarding the transition to digital broadcast, specifically as it concerns digital/analog simulcasting over cable [20:28] I'm in the US [20:29] I'd like to know if digital tuners will be needed to record digital cable without a settop box (this is for SDTV) [20:29] or if I can use my current PVR-150 [20:41] Blz: depends on your cable provider, if they keep analog you can keep using your 150, if not you will need a converter box or a new tuner [20:41] !digital conversion | Blz [20:41] Blz: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Digital_Television [20:42] rhpot1991: okay that's what I figured. now assuming they don't keep analog. Can a digital tuner read a digital cable stream or is that entirely different? [20:42] and thanks for the link. i'll check that out right away [20:42] depends on the stream, odds are it will be mostly encrypted and you will need some sort of box to receive them [20:43] ugh. figures. I guess I'm probably better off calling them and asking [20:43] for instance with my comcast I can get my locals with a digital tuner, but pretty much everything else I need to use the stb or an analog card for SD [20:43] rhpot1991: out of curiosity, how much latency does using the STB cause? [20:43] i'm assuming you use an IR blaster? [20:44] I do firewire actually [20:44] oh okay [20:44] and how's the latency on that? [20:44] but thats hit or miss, I can record most channels but not all [20:44] also I'm pretty luck in that requard as I understand it [20:44] reguard [20:44] yeah i've heard some people have zero luck with that [20:45] now if i use my pvr150 and a STB w/ IR blaster, that'll allow me to watch, record everything, right? [20:45] all recordings will be a few seconds behind, as you are recording to the hard drive, and then watching from there [20:45] Blz: should be able to, will only be SD of course [20:45] won't the pvr150 not be working soon, at least in the US because of the digital cut over [20:45] ? [20:45] doesn't it only record analog [20:46] if your cable company stops giving you analog hansoffate [20:46] some are some aren't [20:46] hmm [20:46] interesting, we'll see [20:46] some of them are going digital only and giving you a "free" stb to compensate [20:46] hansoffate: yes, but we're talking about either recording an analog simulcast of digital cable or recording the output of a STB [20:46] I've heard of some that are moving some of those channels to clear QAM too, I'd love that [20:46] oh are they? [20:46] probably not comcast though [20:46] IIRC it was comcast out west [20:46] since they can't even leave bittorrent alone without a lawsuit [20:47] :) [20:47] yea, i already got an HD STB to record my HD shows, but I use my pvr500 to record alot of non-hd shows that are on at the same time. When they cut over, I won't be able to record multiple shows at the same time, unless the pvr500 works [20:47] Yea, I have comcast [20:47] Blz: they can't give me a working interweb conenction or a TV image that doesn't ghost either :( [20:47] they have to give you notice about cutting out analog I am pretty sure [20:47] this is going to be a huge pain [20:48] most likely on your bill [20:48] hmm [20:48] I'd say don't worry about it till it happens [20:48] rhpot1991: do you have any idea about my issue I posted above. My commflag jobs aren't running. I can see them in the queue on mythweb though. [20:48] hansoffate: restarted the backend since the issues came up? [20:48] yup, and the computer [20:48] also repaired the mysql tables [20:49] go into the info center and see if they are listed in there? [20:49] I've seen them get junked up and the old ones report as still running or being around but it has since moved on and ran new copies [20:49] I can't right now, but I will when I can. I'm at work right now so I'm trying to fix it via SSH [20:49] hansoffate: you are positive that new ones are not running? [20:50] sounds like maybe it has a job thats stuck, and it thinks its still running and holding up the queue in the process [20:50] yea, I press Z and it says commercials haven't been flagged [20:50] how would I delete the job? [20:50] through info center? [20:50] never had an issue with comm flag so I've never really played around with it [20:50] you can prob hop in to mythtv-setup and make sure that commflagging/jobs/etc are enabled [20:50] hansoffate: ya, you can delete pause etc in there [20:50] yea, i've done that and it is enabled [20:50] ok cool [20:51] Sorry to interrupt, but can either of you recommend a well-supported digital tuner card? dual tuners are preferred [20:51] can do a ps aux |grep mythcommflag and see whats going on too [20:51] I might try to SSH tunnel mythfrontend and try doing that. [20:51] Blz: HDHR [20:51] kk [20:51] hansoffate: [20:51] rhpot1991: is that the model or the brand? also, I'm watching SDTV [20:51] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythExport_old [20:51] scroll down to MythTV Configuration [20:52] I have images of the setup page that has the commflag switch in there, check to make sure its still enabled [20:52] mythtv 6373 0.0 0.0 1872 152 ? S Jun02 0:00 sh -c /usr/bin/mythcommflag -j 698 -V 3 [20:52] mythtv 6374 0.5 2.1 171036 43932 ? DNl Jun02 21:35 /usr/bin/mythcommflag -j 698 -V 3 [20:52] 1000 13334 0.0 0.0 3336 804 pts/1 R<+ 12:51 0:00 grep mythcommflag [20:52] mythtv 15817 0.0 0.0 1872 500 ? S Jun04 0:00 sh -c /usr/bin/mythcommflag -j 698 -V 3 [20:52] mythtv 15818 0.3 4.8 171204 100952 ? DNl Jun04 2:52 /usr/bin/mythcommflag -j 698 -V 3 [20:52] woops, sorry for the flood, shoulda pastebin that [20:52] Blz: http://www.silicondust.com/products/hdhomerun [20:52] with SD only you are prob better blasting to a converter box though [20:53] thank you! [20:53] rhpot1991: why is that? [20:53] there are some hauppauge dual tunners that do analog and digital that might help too [20:53] oh. i'll look into that [20:54] Blz: you'd only be able to capture unencrypted channels with the HDHR, and IR blasting to the converter boxes isn't supposed to be that hard [20:54] rhpot1991: are you reallly born in 1991? [20:54] nope [20:54] oh [20:54] lol [20:54] makes sense. I'm just worried abuot lag. that can be quite anoying [20:54] i'd say, you're pretty damn knowledgeable about linux for being a 90's kiddy [20:54] hansoffate: Please watch your language. [20:54] *annoying,e ven [20:54] woops [20:54] kiddy bad language? [20:55] amn knowledgable [20:55] i thought it was kiddy too at first [20:55] lol [20:56] * rhpot1991 tells zinn its ok [20:56] lol [20:56] d amn shouldn't be a bad word, they use it all the time on TV [20:57] Blz: I like to look at most things as in what can it get you, firewire is a hugeheadache, but I can record things like USA/discovery HD/etc [20:57] so its prob worth the effort of IR blasting to a converter box if you can keep those 70 some channels you have now instead of reducing to 7 [20:57] I'm using firewire for my HD STB and it surprisingly works really well [20:57] I can get most of the channels [20:57] maybe they wont cut out analog for you and it wont be an issue in the end [20:58] hansoffate: it works well till you accidentailly tune to a channel you can't record and your backend goes down :( [20:58] has random hiccups too [20:58] yeah i guess the first order of business is to call Comcast [20:58] thanks for the help thoguh guys [20:58] it definitely clears some things up [20:58] Blz: good luck getting any useful info :) [20:58] i know... [20:58] yea, I was surprised that comcast had so many unrestricted channels thorugh their STB with firewire [20:58] i mean i have nothing against India and Indians [20:58] hansoffate: depends on your area [20:59] but tech support... [20:59] oh man... [20:59] for me I can get most HD channels, and thats all I really care about anymore [20:59] but ive definitely had the backend go down because ive accidently tried to record something on Cartoon Network HD, which we don't have [20:59] Yup, same. [20:59] between that and my HDHR for OTA channels I can't watch everything I record [21:00] Blz: I've learned a lesson with comcast recently, get anything important in writing... [21:00] so whats the point of getting HDHR, if I can get all the OTA channels via comcast thorugh the firewire? [21:00] they randomly have "no record" of a 6 month refund I was supposed to receive [21:00] wow [21:00] thats a lot of fmoney [21:01] hansoffate: 2 tunners for ~$150 that just work [21:01] I had many a nights where I sat down to watch TV to realize that something went wrong with the firewire and I missed the whole night [21:01] rhpot1991: good point. that way if they give me bad advice I can ream them out [21:02] plus this way when comcast makes me angry I can just get an antenna and move on, can't sell my wife on that yet though [21:02] rhpot1991: yea, ive definitely missed all my programs on thursday nights a few times because the firewire somehow got slightly disconnected. it really sucks. [21:02] exactly [21:02] lol [21:02] yea [21:03] after having that happen a few times I only use firewire when I need it, that way if I need to recover a recording from the interwebs its normally only one by the time I realize something went wrong [21:04] my roommate keeps pushing me to reload my mythbuntu system to Vista or Windows 7 to use MCE. I always tell him that's never going to happen. My mythbuntu system is the powerhouse and server of our house. It has so many backend servers running, I wouldn't be able to replicate all the functionality that one system has on a Windows system. [21:05] I like owning my recordings thank you :) [21:05] mce windows owns your recordigns? [21:06] from what I've heard you can't just move them around or do what you want with them [21:06] hmm, interesting. but you cna't really do that with mythtv either. [21:07] i mean, i've had my mysql tables get corrupt, and I coudln't play anything recorded [21:07] so i tried to watch them directly from /var/???/mythtv/recordings and the titles are so unreadable [21:07] sure you can, you can just pick up your recordings and move them elsewhere [21:07] but eventually I found the tv show I wanted to watch, and was able to watch it [21:07] well ya they aren't in human readable names, you can rename them if you want [21:07] yea [21:08] /usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend/contrib/mythrename.pl.gz [21:08] extract that, and use it [21:08] ooo. no idea that exsisted. cool [21:09] existed* [21:09] alright, enough of a break. got to go back to reloading this vista system >.< [21:09] tech support ftw [21:10] have fun with that [21:11] Oh, I will. lol. At least I get paid for watching blue bars all day :) [21:18] RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE [21:18] well... Comcast is stopping the analog simulcast once the digital switch takes place [21:18] and their broadcast is QAM encrypted [21:19] so I guess I have a few questions about using a set top box with myth [21:20] mainly... if I use the IR blaster and then plug the STB output into my PVR150: A) Can I use on-demand? B) Will I be using the tv guide from the comcast box or provided by myth (i.e. schedules direct) [21:21] you can try to use on demand, the delay is gonna make it tricky [21:22] and I always use schedules direct data, you could use the comcast data for on screen, but you can't for scheduling or anything [21:22] that answer that question? [21:22] did they offer you a converter or stb or anything for free? [21:24] yeah that makes sense [21:24] no they didn't offer anything [21:24] i mean the stb is included [21:25] and they don't have a digital simulcast, they're just taking it away [21:26] "For no extra charge, Comcast will provide customers in the affected areas with one advanced digital set-top box that can access on-demand programming, and up to two low-end boxes that will need to be paired with digital terminal adapters (DTAs)." [21:26] I see in articles about them making the switch out west [21:27] they normally include 1 SD stb [21:27] then charget you +$6.50 to upgrade each one to HD [21:27] and charge you +$8.90 extra outlet per box [21:27] * rhpot1991 has fought with comcast about billing too much as of recently [21:28] wait... maybe i'm missing your point, but how does this affect me? I'm recording sdtv [21:28] and I have one set top box included in my contract [21:28] i just don't use it [21:28] but i will [21:28] ya if they cut off analog, then you need a box for every hookup [21:28] right okay. [21:29] i guess i should see if they have any offers in my area [21:29] maybe i'll hook up another set [21:29] you can claim they are taking away service and they should give you a box per each analog "device" you have [21:29] then you can have one for your tv, one for your pvr-150, etc [21:29] that's a good point [21:30] yeah. i bet i could even buy a second pvr150 for cheap now that the conversion is iminent [21:30] just watch that they don't try to randomly charge you [21:30] I hear they can be had for cheap on ebay [21:30] impossible to find new ones though [21:30] no big deal [21:30] those things are pretty robust [21:30] i'll need a second blaster too [21:31] now just to be clear, myth automatically pick which card to use and routs commands to the apropriate blaster, right? [21:31] I believe so [21:31] I don't blast so I'm a bad one to tell you for sure [21:31] if your box has firewire you can change channels via that very easily too [21:32] and it should be more accurate than blasting [21:32] i thought you said firewire support was problematic? [21:32] oooh you were talking about firewire output, right? [21:36] ya [21:36] if you try to tune to an encrypted channel, bad things happen [21:36] normally loses connection and then you miss the rest of your recordings [21:36] but for channel changing, that doesn't matter [21:37] it just blasts a signal to the box which changes channels, then you capture your analog signal coming out of that [21:42] rhpot1991: and that should work with any box that has a firewire port? [21:42] Blz: provided its enabled [21:42] motorolla? [21:42] rhpot1991: yeah [21:42] are you in front of it now? [21:43] no. I'm actually not in the apartment [21:43] but it's black lol [21:43] i'm sure they all are [21:43] you can google later, but you hit power then enter/select/whatever the middle button is [21:43] and it should take you to the diagnostic screen [21:43] in the menus there you can view the status, it should say something i394 enabled [21:44] okay I'll check that out [21:44] i think it's this one: http://www.yourtownscable.com/images/cablebox_motorola.jpg [21:44] i dunno if that looks familiar to you [21:44] by FCC law they have to give you a stb that has firewire enabled and has access to the local channels, not really enforced though [21:45] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/FireWire#FCC_regulations [21:46] i thought that was only for hd boxes [21:47] yeah it's only for HD boxes [21:47] alright [21:48] I'll have to look into this more [21:48] thanks for the help though [21:48] no problem, good luck [21:48] thanks. i'll be back for sure [21:48] I'll call out your name until you show up lol [22:36] ugh, only 5 more hours of work >.<