[00:01] <fbc-mx> billybigrigger, oohh oohhh I like pita...
[00:01] <fbc-mx> billybigrigger, and pumpernickel too.
[00:01] <billybigrigger> lol what the hell is pumpernickel?
[00:02] <fbc-mx> billybigrigger, type of German bread traditionally made with coarsely ground rye
[00:02]  * fbc-mx rolls his eye..
[00:03] <billybigrigger> hmm
[00:03] <billybigrigger> sounds good
[00:04] <billybigrigger> i like rye bread
[00:04] <billybigrigger> if they are at all similar :P
[00:07] <orudie> question. is there a way to make it so that when the message is rejected by either amavisd-new , spamassassin, or clamAV the error was returned to the sender ??
[00:18] <racecar56> can someone help me with a hp mediasmart ex475? i havent been able to get this thing to work since december 2008
[00:18] <racecar56> i want to get ubuntu server on it
[00:19] <racecar56> is anyone here?
[02:29] <fbc-mx> how can I SU ROOT? or whatever the equivalent is in ubuntu
[02:29] <ajmitch> if you really really need to, sudo -i
[02:30] <fbc-mx> ajmitch, ahh....
[02:30]  * fbc-mx marvels
[02:30] <twb> Actually sudo -i is equivalent to su -
[02:31] <twb> If you want su without the -, you need sudo -H -s.  But usually you want sudo -i / su -, and just don't know it.
[02:32] <fbc-mx> twb, yeah sudo -i was what I was looking for... There are some directories that EBOX sets up as shares, and you can't get to them unless your root.
[02:35] <fbc-mx> twb doing sudo cd <dir name> was kinda dumb.. might as well become root.
[02:36] <fbc-mx> how do I prevent the gdm from loading when the computer boots up?
[02:37] <twb> cd is not a command.
[02:37] <twb> It's a sh builtin.
[02:37] <twb> Ideally, you should not have gdm installed in the first place, on a server.
[02:38] <twb> But you can use update-rc.d (or rcconf, for a GUI) to disable it
[02:38] <fbc-mx> twb, I had to, due to the it was requirement for the adoption of the linux platform as a server.
[02:39] <twb> Oh, I fucking hate that.
[02:39] <fbc-mx> twb, I have other administrators here that couldn't use a command line to save their life.
[02:39] <twb> I have to put it on servers, too, because "customers expect to log into the server directly; it's what they are used to on Windows"
[02:39] <fbc-mx> twb, exactly
[02:40] <twb> fbc-mx: IMO servers should be headless; if you want a GUI then use remote X or VNC
[02:40] <fbc-mx> twb, that's been my biggest issue.. I'm used to just using a command line.
[02:41] <fbc-mx> twb, I agree it should be headless... However my skills are not sufficiently honed that I could setup a server with remote x or vnc.
[02:41] <fbc-mx> twb, I'm actually quite happy with the command line.
[02:41] <fbc-mx> twb, maybe I'll find a remote x HOWTO  one day.
[02:42] <fbc-mx> gotta run guys
[03:06] <M4d3L> hi. after update to 9.04, phpmyadmin give me this error : Connection for controluser as defined in your configuration failed.
[04:06] <slestak_> please humor me, i think this question is better asked here than in teh desktop room, even though it is abt desktop.
[04:07] <slestak_> i always considered dnsmasq to be a server soln, and I am trying to figure out the rationale for it being included in the jaunty desktop?
[04:08] <slestak_> what is it being used for, not a dhcp server, and you done need a local dns cache for every desktop, wouldnt you want one per lan?
[04:13] <twb> slestak_: as a DNS cacher
[04:19] <slestak_> in the past i have kept a dnsmasq instance running to provide local name resolution for a small home lan.  I dont think this complicates or changes anything now that 4 of the machines on teh lan are all running dnscache (for a different reason).
[04:20] <slestak_> is it stupid to consider using the wap for dhcp, but dnsmasq on only local dns?  bind seems overkill for my needs.
[04:23] <slestak_> i see the ubu community docs for dnsmasq, but it really deals with dhcp services, nothing relly abt my need for local dns
[04:24] <slestak_> maybe bind is the better tool for me.
[04:34] <billybigrigger> anyone have a good howto on dovecot-postfix?
[04:34] <slestak_> pdnsd looks interesting
[04:35] <slestak_> i think the forum has some decent ones
[04:40] <megra> does someone have a good knowledge on php/apache with suexec/fastcgi ? i have some questions
[04:40] <megra> some questions on the security it brings
[04:42] <megra> is there anybody ?
[04:46] <ScottK> !ask | megra
[04:46] <megra> fine
[04:48] <megra> most of the documentations are saying "execute your php-code with CGI because executeing it as an apache module make executed by www-data"
[04:48] <megra> however, executing php from apache allow to create a php.ini the user won't be able to change
[04:48] <megra> with CGI, the user ca change it's php.ini ...
[04:49] <megra> it can be done that way: "export PHPRC=/directory/"
[04:50] <megra> is there a way to prevent user from having its own customized php.ini ?
[04:54] <megra> i really don't won't users to be able to modify the max_execution_time or memory_limit
[05:03]  * billybigrigger just realised this old pentium 166mhz should have stayed in my dad's basement
[05:03] <billybigrigger> 98mb ram is not the greatest for running web/mysql/mail :P
[05:05] <billybigrigger> does ebox require gnome or something?
[05:05] <billybigrigger> i thought it was a web based admin tool?
[05:07] <billybigrigger> why does it install libgtk2.0 and libxfont, xfonts...basically a bunch of x crap, a web based admin tool should run on this headless server a see that it's headless and not install a bunch of junk
[05:13] <megra> what do you think of mounting its /tmp on a tmpfs ?
[05:13] <ScottK> billybigrigger: IIRC it requires gconf which recommends a bunch of stuff.  If you install without recommends, it should be OK.
[05:14] <billybigrigger> too late :P i started my rant after i looked at what it installed :P
[05:14] <billybigrigger> hmm
[05:17] <billybigrigger> http://imagebin.ca/view/FLue_5r6.html
[05:17] <billybigrigger> i get that on a fresh ebox install
[05:18] <billybigrigger> why does my server have an invalid certificate? afaik i didn't create any certs, so is that something fubar'd on the ebox install?
[05:29] <MTecknology> How do I enable automatic security updates for Ubuntu?
[05:48] <megra> MTecknology, for the server ? no idea
[05:49] <megra> MTecknology, but there has to be a package for that ;)
[05:50] <megra> MTecknology, found it !
[05:50] <megra> MTecknology, cron-at
[05:50] <megra> MTecknology, cron-apt
[05:50] <MTecknology> thanks
[05:50] <MTecknology> :)
[05:50] <megra> MTecknology, it could have been done easily .. cronjob + apt-get
[06:33] <jmarsden> MTecknology: sudo apt-get unattended-upgrades  # see https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/automatic-updates.html
[06:35] <MTecknology> jmarsden: thanks
[06:35] <jmarsden> No problem :)
[07:33] <pteague> anybody here familiar with lftp? i'm having issues with it trying to set the wrong timestamp when uploading files & i'm not sure why
[07:36] <twb> MTecknology: apt-get install cron-apt
[07:37] <twb> MTecknology: edit /etc/apt/apt.conf (creating it if necessary) as described in /etc/cron.daily/apt's comments.
[07:37] <twb> You may also want to install unattended-upgrades
[07:37] <MTecknology> twb: yup, I got that - thanks :)
[07:38] <twb> But obviously u-u does nothing if you don't configure apt.conf
[07:38] <MTecknology> hrm - missed that :P
[07:42] <MTecknology> twb: and now I'm lost
[07:43] <MTecknology> /etc/apt/apt.conf is empty and /etc/cron.daily/apt isn't making things simple
[07:46] <twb> man 5 apt.conf?
[07:49] <MTecknology> twb: thanks :)
[08:23] <tonyyarusso> twb: For future reference, it would have been way easier to tell him to read /usr/share/doc/unattended-upgrades/README - seems easier to follow.  (And doesn't put anything in /etc/apt/apt.conf, but rather properly follows the Debian config model of /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ files.)
[08:43] <Appiah> I'm having problems logging into a server (SSH) , I get to enter username , then it takes a really long time before password prompt shows up , and when im entering the password it timesout
[08:49] <tonyyarusso> Appiah: Do you have an out-of-band way of accessing said server?
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> Appiah: Sounds like some form of resource overload to me.  Either CPU or memory mostl likely.
[08:50] <Appiah> either that or some dns issue
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> Easy way to test that theory.  Do you know the IP address?
[08:51] <Appiah> I'm trying both from here (vpn) and from a server is which is in the same network
[08:51] <Appiah> yupp
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> Using the IP address from something on the same subnet won't go anywhere near DNS stuff.
[08:51] <Appiah> i thought it might have to do with the reverse
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> I mean, there *could* be some other form of a network issue, but my money's on a runaway process.
[08:53] <Appiah> hmm
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> Does it take a long time to get to the username prompt as well?
[08:53] <Appiah> nope
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> Okay, now that is slightly odd.
[08:54] <tonyyarusso> I don't suppose you have any machines set up to do SSH key auth on this server?
[08:54] <Appiah> nah
[08:55] <Appiah> I'm gonna get some to check the console
[08:55] <Appiah> someone*
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> Also, is the server still fulfilling its normal functions okay?
[08:55] <Appiah> well it's not in production so :D
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> ah, cool
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> Yeah, console access will be needed.
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> What's it running?
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> (services-wise)
[08:56] <Appiah> hmm
[08:57] <tonyyarusso> (We're in blatant curiosity territory now, so don't think too hard.)
[08:58] <Appiah> SSH and Webmin should be on
[08:58] <Appiah> cant reach the webmin though >_>
[08:58] <Appiah> feels like a reboot should be all
[08:59]  * tonyyarusso guesses a script going OOM, sits back to wait for someone to prove him right
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> Or, you know, otherwise.
[08:59] <Appiah> oom?
[09:00] <tonyyarusso> out of memory
[09:11] <Appiah> haha
[09:12] <Appiah> same thing happend at console,  asked him to just reboot
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> Now we'll never know :(
[09:12] <Appiah> no way to find out really >_>
[09:12] <Appiah> if it happends again I have to find out what's happening
[09:38] <Appiah> tonyyarusso: even after reboot it does the same >_>
[09:38] <Appiah> maybe the pam is screwed up
[09:40] <Appiah> or nsswitch
[10:00] <Appiah> anyway to reset all pam changes?
[12:13] <Appiah> nvm it was the nsswitch
[12:51] <a_ok> when i put ulimit -m 800; in /etc/profile will programmes started by init (init.d scripts) adhere to this?
[12:51] <Alex_21> Hi, all,
[12:52] <Alex_21> I have two disks that were previously set up as RAID1 with lvm. How can I reinstall Ubuntu onto these disks and reclaim them?
[12:52] <Alex_21> I tried to delete the md0 device but it failed
[12:53] <Alex_21> Please help
[12:59] <iulianpojar> Alex_21: try to install from ubuntu alternate disk
[12:59] <Alex_21> Why?
[12:59] <Alex_21> I used the Server CD
[13:00] <Alex_21> Or should I say I am using the Ubuntu Server CD at the moment
[13:00] <Alex_21> I'm stuck on the partitioning screen
[13:02] <Alex_21> Also, ... when making partitions for RAID 1, ... Do I have to set the bootable flag to "ON"
[13:02] <Alex_21> ? Please
[13:29] <huats> Hi everyone !
[13:31] <Alex_21> Hi,
[13:31] <Alex_21> I can't delete RAID 1 device MD0 from the SErver installer. How can this be done
[13:33] <_ruben> Alex_21: you dont care about any data on it ?
[13:34] <_ruben> and is the raid using partitions or complete disks?
[13:35] <Alex_21> There is a partition that is the full size of the disk
[13:35] <Alex_21> In question
[13:36] <_ruben> hit enter on the disk itself, it'll ask if you want to create a new disklabel .. that might wipe out the raid traces .. if that doesnt help .. then you might need to wipe out the first few K of the disk using dd
[13:37] <Alex_21> DD?
[13:37] <Alex_21> I am a bit of a Noob at this
[13:38] <Alex_21> I am a bit of a Noob at thisRC
[13:38] <Alex_21> I need guidance
[13:42] <dthacker> Alex_21: This may help, use at your own risk.  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/learn-the-dd-command-362506/
[13:49] <Alex_21> I see this, ... but I don't see how to use it to wipe out sections of the disk to remove the traces of RAID 1
[13:49] <Alex_21> Please help
[14:24] <ghostlines> I have a nfs server, but I can share all directories except /media/
[14:24] <ghostlines> I can see the folders in /media/ but I can go into any of them
[14:25] <ghostlines> this looks like a permission issue but i chmod 777'ed the whole directory
[14:25] <_ruben> can a local user enter those dirs?
[14:25] <ghostlines> can anyone help me with this? I'm running jaunty 64bit
[14:25] <ghostlines> yep, a local user can enter them
[14:26] <ghostlines> *sorry I can see the folders in /media/ but can't enter them
[14:26] <ghostlines> when I enter them i see nothing
[14:27] <ghostlines> I'm allowed to go in but see nothing
[14:27] <_ruben> so you can enter the directories, but cant list its contents.. that's an odd one
[14:28] <_ruben> did you chmod recursively?
[14:29] <ghostlines> I believe i did do it with the -R switch
[14:29] <ghostlines> I'll try again
[14:30] <ghostlines> nope still no dice
[14:33] <ghostlines> I got it to work now, but the recursive chmod wasn't the solution
[14:33] <ghostlines> in my /etc/exports i had /media/   instead of /media/sdb2
[14:33] <kwork> what was it then
[14:33] <ghostlines> i thought /media/ was enough to go into the child directories
[14:34] <ghostlines> I find that strange though, does anyone know why this may be?
[14:34] <Sam-I-Am> because /media is a dynamic mount point for removable media
[14:35] <Sam-I-Am> i'd avoid using it for permanent mounts
[14:35] <Sam-I-Am> use /srv instead
[14:35] <ghostlines> ahh k thanks
[14:36] <ghostlines> but my /media/sdb2 is a harddrive partition i thought it should stay in /media/
[14:36] <ghostlines> so it's advisable to just edit my fstab then
[14:37] <Sam-I-Am> sure
[14:37] <Sam-I-Am> its a fine mount point if you're not exporting over nfs
[14:38] <ghostlines> ahh k thanks alot man, one other thing do you think making a symbolic link to my /media/sdb2 would work
[14:38] <ghostlines> so does nfs follow symbolic links?
[14:39] <Sam-I-Am> on the same FS, yes
[14:39] <Sam-I-Am> otherwise no
[14:40] <ghostlines> ahh k cool
[14:40] <Sam-I-Am> if you want /media/sdb2 to appear somewhere else for NFS exporting, bind mount it
[14:41] <ghostlines> hmmm, never heard about bind mount I'll look into ti
[14:41] <ghostlines> *it
[14:41] <Sam-I-Am> it allows you to mount a filesystem to more than one place
[14:41] <Sam-I-Am> for example, to /home on the local machine, but also /srv/home for nfs exporting
[14:42] <ghostlines> damn, that's handy
[14:42] <ghostlines> can I then edit fstab to mount -bind directories at boot
[14:43] <Sam-I-Am> yes
[14:43] <Sam-I-Am> its a mount option
[14:43] <ghostlines> cool, I'm going to try it now
[14:43] <Sam-I-Am> or type...
[15:15] <moonpup> does ubuntu server have a bind-chroot package like red hat to set this environment up automatically?
[16:43] <FFForever> what is the latest kernel?
[16:50] <triden01> hello all.  I've looked around and can't find the answer to this..  Where is the proper place to ask questions regarding Sparc support for 8.04 server
[16:51] <triden01> I know its now been downgraded to a "port" for 8.04
[17:00] <triden01> hello all.  I've looked around and can't find the answer to this..  Where is the proper place to ask questions regarding Sparc support for 8.04 server
[17:00] <triden01> I know its now been downgraded to a "port" for 8.04
[17:23] <genii> triden01: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=146
[18:12] <minesh> hi ppl
[18:38] <billybigrigger> anyone here use ebox?
[18:39] <billybigrigger> is it normal for it to have firefox complain about ebox's security certificate right out of a fresh ebox install?
[18:43] <oruwork> question. how can i lock the user in his home directory ?
[18:45] <highvoltage> so that he can't navigate to any other directory!?
[18:46] <highvoltage> that would be close to impossible, users need to be able to read things in /usr, /etc, among other things
[18:51] <Mip5> Hey Gang - I'm trying to have my ltsp clients bind to an osx ldap server (10.5). Would it be the same process to have a single jaunty client bind to the mac osx ldap server?
[18:56] <oruwork> highvoltage-> its for sftp
[18:56] <oruwork> i want to disable everything but sftp
[18:56] <oruwork> for that user
[18:59] <SirStan> billybigrigger: of crouse.
[18:59] <SirStan> course*
[18:59] <billybigrigger> roger
[19:00] <highvoltage> oruwork: ah, iirc there's a shell that's caused sftponly which you can install which would allow that
[19:03] <oruwork> hmmm
[19:03] <oruwork> so i just created a user for my sftp account
[19:03] <oruwork> and generated a new ssh key for him
[19:03] <oruwork> should I manually create .ssh directory in his home directory ?
[19:05] <oruwork> so to allow my new user to connect with ssh key, is it normal to manually create .ssh directory in his home ?
[19:09] <SirStan> oruwork: What else would create the directory?
[19:10] <oruwork> i dont know
[19:10] <oruwork> for some reason its not working :P
[19:10] <oruwork> meaning..., the new key doesnt work for my new user :P
[19:11] <oruwork> i'll try to put my existing key in there that works for testing purpose
[19:19] <FFForever> Hi
[19:20] <FFForever> when using du -s /home/chris what size format does it output?
[19:51] <jmedina> FFForever: man du
[19:51] <jmedina> you can change the output format, for kb, mb, etc
[19:53] <MK-ubuntu> hi, I was wondering if there is a way of reinstalling distro over romotely.
[19:54] <MK-ubuntu> I have a server in IDC but they installed Desktop edition instead of server edition, thats ehy.
[20:12] <oruwork> can someone help me to configure sshd_config with ForceCommand, Subsystem, and ChrootDirectory ?
[20:12] <oruwork> trying lock my ftp user account in home directory
[20:18] <billybigrigger> ftp user?
[20:18] <billybigrigger> what ftp deamon?
[20:18] <billybigrigger> why don't you configure chroot in your ftpd's config?
[20:19] <pteague> is there some way to get a fixed version of subversion? 1.5.x has borked merging... need 1.4 or 1.6
[20:22] <oruwork> billybigrigger-> thats exactly what i'm trying to do , chroot
[20:23] <oruwork> billybigrigger-> just not sure how to do it
[20:23] <billybigrigger> and i asked you....
 why don't you configure chroot in your ftpd's config?
[20:23] <billybigrigger> are you using vsftpd? proftpd? pureftpd?
[20:24] <oruwork> billybigrigger-> not sure , just ssh
[20:24] <oruwork> never isntalled any ftp daemons
[20:24] <billybigrigger> hehe
[20:24] <oruwork> i was looking at http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590
[20:24] <billybigrigger> setup an ftp deamon
[20:25] <giovani|1ork> what do you need an ftpd for?
[20:25] <billybigrigger> then in the ftpd's config setup user chroot
[20:25] <billybigrigger> sftp is different than ftp :P
[20:26] <giovani|1ork> sftp isn't related to ftp, yeah
[20:26] <giovani|1ork> let's not confuse the two
[20:26] <billybigrigger> iirc sftp is built into ssh
[20:26] <giovani|1ork> yes, it's not FTP
[20:27] <billybigrigger> yeah
[20:27] <billybigrigger> oruwork::: ok what's your problem?
[20:27] <oruwork> well.. just trying to figure out how to make my ftp user locked in home directory thats all
[20:28] <giovani|work> oruwork: what ftpd are you using?
[20:28] <oruwork> none, ssh
[20:28] <Hecate> so, are you using an ftp-server or do you wanna do it using your ssh-server?
[20:28] <oruwork> just ssh
[20:28] <oruwork> ssh server i guess
[20:28] <giovani|work> oruwork: then you're not using FTP ... you just said "my ftp user"
[20:28] <oruwork> oh
[20:28] <oruwork> ok
[20:28] <Hecate> yeah, it confused the shit outta some ppl ;)
[20:28] <billybigrigger> oruwork::: seriously, whats the problem? that guide seems pretty simple
[20:29] <Hecate> if this is not the guide you're talking about, it's pretty good: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590
[20:30] <oruwork> yes that
[20:30] <oruwork> lol
[20:30] <giovani|work> so what's the problem?
[20:30] <oruwork> just confused with the group
[20:30] <Hecate> oruwork, if you persist on logging the users file transfer action, chrooted sftp is gonna make it very difficult
[20:31] <billybigrigger> Hecate::: that's the exact guide he's talking about
[20:31] <oruwork> Match group sftponly
[20:31] <Hecate> well, from time to time i happen to have a lucky shot
[20:31] <oruwork> do i need to create a group before i modify sshd_config ?
[20:32] <Hecate> depending on your sshd_config
[20:32] <Hecate> if you do it the match way (as you posted above), then: yes
[20:32] <oruwork> well the only thing that i modified in sshd_config is disabled password logins
[20:33] <Hecate> now you're confusing me, too
[20:33] <Hecate> if you didn't modify your sshd_config, how do you expect it to do the chrooted sftp?
[20:35] <Hecate> brb
[20:36] <heath|work> I need to make an NFS server for Xen.  Any suggestions as to what file system to format the drives that will be holding the virts?
[20:44] <Hecate> fat16
[20:44] <Hecate> ;)
[21:13] <diffred> hi, I've installed apache2 module, what modules I need to run cgi scripts in my localhost?
[21:16] <deviantintegral> hi all. does anyone know of a way to modify default routes on a per process or per user level? I want the default route to be one destination, but have specific applications go over openvpn (their destination IP's are unknown)
[21:17] <deviantintegral> it seems like firehol might be able to do it, but it's hard to tell
[21:17] <oruwork> does order matter in sshd_config ?
[21:17] <deviantintegral> oruwork: I don't think so
[21:39] <oruwork> how can i assign a user to a group ?
[21:43] <Bullterd> Hey All :)
[21:43] <Bullterd> Im having really hastle trying to setup bonding with ubuntu server 8.10
[21:43] <Bullterd> ive followed a buttload of tutorials on the web to no avail.
[21:44] <Bullterd> Switch: http://www.usr.com/support/product-template.asp?prod=7724a
[21:44] <Bullterd> NIC's: http://www.tenda.cn/product/show.php?productid-226.html
[21:45] <Bullterd> im trying for bond mode 4.
[21:45] <Bullterd> Ive also setup the coresponding ports on the router to be a "trunk"
[21:50] <jbernard> oruwork: adduser <user> <group>
[21:50] <jbernard> oruwork: check the adduser manpage, lots of good stuff in there
[21:56] <oruwork> ok when i do sftp user@host how can i specify the port
[21:57] <oruwork> i tried sftp -p "port number" user@host and it didnt work
[21:58] <Hecate> oruwork, sftp -o Port=12345 user@host
[22:29] <JorgeJorgesson> Where is a good place to go for free online LPIC training course.  Something I can do at my own pace?
[22:29] <JorgeJorgesson> I always thought IBM offered one at some point.
[22:35] <zoopster> JorgeJorgesson: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/lpi/
[22:36] <JorgeJorgesson> zoopster: Exactly what I was trying to find, thanks a bunch!
[22:36] <zoopster> np
[22:37] <zoopster> JorgeJorgesson: it's pretty good...helped me a ton
[22:38] <JorgeJorgesson> zoopster: I found it quite some time ago but lost track of it.  I really mean to take the full thing one day!