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| jfroy | bah | 02:48 |
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| jfroy | launchdpad is failing to display any file in one of my branch :/ | 02:48 |
| jfroy | or at least, any file modified in the branch, which is itself stacked on another branch | 02:50 |
| Peng_ | What, internal server error on annotate? There's a bug open about that. | 02:51 |
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| jfroy | Peng: maybe, it doesn't actually say | 04:34 |
| jfroy | All I get is a Internal Server Error plain/text response | 04:34 |
| jfroy | nothing more specific | 04:34 |
| Peng_ | jfroy: Yeah, that's what I meant. It happens when you go to /annotate/ URLs, right? | 04:37 |
| jfroy | Ah, yes | 04:37 |
| jfroy | precisely | 04:37 |
| jfroy | searching for annotate on launchpad's bug list doesn't bring up anything | 04:38 |
| jfroy | ah, I suppose it would be on loggerhead? | 04:38 |
| Peng_ | jfroy: I marked it as a duplicate. The best search term is "Internal Server Error". | 04:41 |
| Peng_ | I guess the bug could use "annotate" in the title. | 04:41 |
| jfroy | I actually deleted the branch I was trying to browse and re-pushed it | 04:49 |
| jfroy | but I can't delete the branch it is stacked on for some reason | 04:49 |
| jfroy | Launchpad complains its being referenced by a number of other branches | 04:49 |
| jfroy | I bzr checked the local copy of the branches and they're both fine | 04:50 |
| mwhudson | it's something to do with annotating stacked branches | 05:00 |
| mwhudson | i guess we should really chase it with the bzr folks... | 05:00 |
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| danutz3x | Hi | 08:52 |
| danutz3x | Package naming question (related to backporting/ppa) | 08:53 |
| danutz3x | I name by backported packages by adding a ~hardy1~myname suffix (assuming no ~ is already in the name of course) | 08:53 |
| danutz3x | but I got this error: | 08:54 |
| danutz3x | libass-dev(inst 0.9.5-2~hardy1~myname ! >= wanted 0.9.5-2) | 08:54 |
| danutz3x | am I using a broken naming scheme? | 08:54 |
| danutz3x | how can 0.9.5-2~hardy1~myname not satisfy the >= wanted 0.9.5-2 requirement? | 08:56 |
| danutz3x | hm, maybe this is the wrong place to ask, I guess it's more of a debian question | 08:59 |
| wgrant | danutz3x: The whole point of ~ is that it's less than anything else - even the empty string. That's why it exists. | 09:07 |
| wgrant | So, people have taken to depending on something like '0.9.5-2~' rather than '0.9.5-2', to help with backports. | 09:08 |
| wgrant | As '0.9.5-2~' < '0.9.5-2~anything' | 09:08 |
| danutz3x | Ah, I see | 09:08 |
| wgrant | Where 'anything' can be anything not starting with '~' | 09:08 |
| danutz3x | I changed the control file to depend on >= wanted 0.9.5-2~hardy1~myname | 09:09 |
| danutz3x | but 0.9.5-2~hardy1~ would have been better | 09:09 |
| danutz3x | thanks | 09:09 |
| wgrant | 0.9.5-2~ better still. | 09:09 |
| danutz3x | this is a little ugly I guess | 09:09 |
| danutz3x | oops, that's what I meant | 09:09 |
| danutz3x | 0.9.5-2~ | 09:10 |
| wgrant | Backports can get ugly, yeah. | 09:10 |
| danutz3x | OK, great, I will keep that in mind | 09:10 |
| danutz3x | thank you wgrant! | 09:10 |
| wgrant | danutz3x: No problem | 09:11 |
| thekorn | hi, | 09:22 |
| thekorn | is it possible to link a release series to a PPA package? | 09:22 |
| thekorn | or: what does "link to other package" on the overview page of a series mean? | 09:23 |
| thekorn | and related question: how can I delete a wrongly created link between a series and a (non existing) package? | 09:25 |
| wgrant | thekorn: No, link to a package in another distribution, good question. | 09:27 |
| wgrant | In general, keep away from the package linking feature - it's pretty broken and useless for now. | 09:27 |
| wgrant | What did you create the link to/from? | 09:27 |
| thekorn | wgrant, well I played around with package linking on https://edge.launchpad.net/gtk-poker-clock/0.1 | 09:29 |
| thekorn | and now I realized that this created package linkes like: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/poker-tournament-clock | 09:30 |
| thekorn | It would be good if this could somehow be removed, as there won't be a package of this project in ubuntu | 09:31 |
| thekorn | at least for now | 09:31 |
| wgrant | It doesn't seem that you can remove the link without knowing its DB ID. | 09:32 |
| thekorn | maybe the best is to ask a question on a.lp.net and ask for removel of this links | 09:33 |
| thekorn | hmm, interesting: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/72 | 09:36 |
| thekorn | looks like there should be a delete button somewhere, but either I'm blind or the answer there is wrong | 09:38 |
| wgrant | thekorn: Right, it's normally easy. But the button only shows up when there's a row for the series on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/PACKAGE. | 09:44 |
| wgrant | Which requires that there be a Published package in the distroseries. | 09:45 |
| wgrant | Which there is not. | 09:45 |
| wgrant | = bug | 09:45 |
| wgrant | Unfortunately, all the package<->project linking stuff has been lying untouched for years. Maybe somebody will fix it when LP is freed. | 09:46 |
| thekorn | wgrant, yup, but then the example given in the FAQ is also misleading, because | 09:46 |
| thekorn | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/foo | 09:46 |
| thekorn | has never exist | 09:46 |
| wgrant | Itt hasn't? | 09:47 |
| wgrant | Assuming that you replace 'foo' with the package name, it works fine... | 09:47 |
| thekorn | correct, but IMHO it is not obvious that foo should be replace by any existing package | 09:49 |
| thekorn | why not showing a working example there? | 09:49 |
| wgrant | 'For example, if you linked a project to the "foo" package in Ubuntu, go to the following URL:' | 09:49 |
| thekorn | ok, but if foo is not a published package in the distroseries there won't be such "delete link" button | 09:53 |
| wgrant | Right. That was very rare before PPAs. | 09:53 |
| wgrant | Since the package has to exist somewhere in Launchpad. | 09:53 |
| thekorn | why can't there be an easy example like: 'For example, if you linked a project to the "firefox" package in Ubuntu, go to the following URL:' [...] | 09:53 |
| wgrant | Otherwise you can't create the link. | 09:53 |
| wgrant | No idea. | 09:54 |
| alkisg | Hi, I'm a member of a team in launchpad, and I want to upload something in our team PPA and sign it with a "team key", not my personal key. Is that possible, and if so, where should I upload the team key? I think teams cannot have keys... | 10:04 |
| cprov | alkisg: I think gpg keys are *personal* entities, team can't have keys, by design. | 10:12 |
| alkisg | So, should all members of the team upload the "team key" in their personal keys? | 10:12 |
| cprov | alkisg: you can, of course, create a extra key yourself and name it 'Team FOO' but it will belong to you. | 10:13 |
| cprov | alkisg: no, that's the point, you cannot share a gpg key. | 10:13 |
| alkisg | Ah, ok, we just thought that it would be nice if the team showed up as the packager, and not an individual person | 10:14 |
| alkisg | Thanks a lot cprov. Btw, did you have any time to look at the uid thing? https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/72982 | 10:15 |
| cprov | alkisg: uhm, why is that ? usually uploaders are individuals, aren't they ? | 10:15 |
| cprov | alkisg: you can set the Maintainer: field in the DSC file to a team, that's common | 10:16 |
| cprov | alkisg: oh, not yet, will do during the weekend (will that be ok to you ?) | 10:16 |
| alkisg | cprov: let me look into that (I'm not sure which field is the one that shows when right-clicking on a deb file) | 10:16 |
| alkisg | cprov: yes, it would be fine, thank you very much | 10:16 |
| cprov | alkisg: np | 10:17 |
| alkisg | The team represents a ministry department, and the teachers using its ppa wouldn't know the individual developers, that's why we want the team name to appear when they install software from that ppa. | 10:17 |
| cprov | alkisg: I think the tools present Maintainer: and not Changed-by: | 10:19 |
| * cprov dashes | 10:21 | |
| wgrant | alkisg: Anything that shows the Changed-By is probably wrong. | 10:42 |
| alkisg | Tthank you wgrant | 10:44 |
| alkisg | Heh... https://launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/+archive/ppa => the greek characters in dnsmasq changelog are all messed up, e.g. SIGMAEPSILONPIEPSILONETAUPSILON instead of ΣΕΠΕΗΥ :) No big deal, it's just in the html interface. | 10:47 |
| wgrant | That happens in emails too. | 10:48 |
| wgrant | I'm intrigued as to how it happens. | 10:48 |
| alkisg | I guest the & are removed from before the letters | 10:48 |
| alkisg | E.g. UPSILON instead of &UPSILON; | 10:48 |
| wgrant | I'd suspect that too, but it happens in plaintext emails. | 10:49 |
| Peng_ | Shouldn't it be using Ӓ anyway? | 10:49 |
| Peng_ | (or whatever the format is0 | 10:50 |
| alkisg | Yeah some software thinks that named entities are better than numerical based... go figure | 10:50 |
| Peng_ | Using named entities programmatically is silly, since it takes more effort. | 10:51 |
| geser | I guess somewhere in the code transliteration is used | 11:17 |
| Peng_ | Waiting for branches to remirror is mindnumbingly boring. | 11:33 |
| Peng_ | Only 28 minutes to go! | 11:33 |
| jml | Peng_: I posted a script for that | 11:38 |
| Peng_ | jml: Oh, really? Link? | 11:39 |
| jml | Peng_: my web browser / net link is misbehaving | 11:39 |
| LarstiQ | Peng_: #!/bin/sh\nsleep(60 * 28) | 11:40 |
| jml | it's a little better than that :) | 11:40 |
| Peng_ | jml: Oh, darn. | 11:40 |
| jml | Peng_: are you familiar at all with launchpadlib? | 11:40 |
| Peng_ | jml: Nope! :) | 11:40 |
| jml | Peng_: it's actually pretty easy. | 11:41 |
| Peng_ | jml: Yeah. | 11:41 |
| Peng_ | The question is, is it easier than sitting and staring at the wall for...20 more minutes? :D | 11:41 |
| jml | Peng_: it's probably more fun. | 11:41 |
| jml | what the hell is up with my net connection... | 11:42 |
| wgrant | jml: I might remind you that you live on the wrong side of the world. | 11:42 |
| Peng_ | jml: I'm kind of sleepy, which makes me very apathetic. :P | 11:42 |
| jml | :) | 11:42 |
| jml | wgrant: it's worse than that. | 11:42 |
| wgrant | jml: Ah. | 11:43 |
| LarstiQ | jml: you live on the wrong side of the moon? | 11:44 |
| Peng_ | Actually, my connection to Canonical-land is slightly worse than usual too. | 11:44 |
| LarstiQ | here too | 11:45 |
| jml | local firewall config. | 11:45 |
| Peng_ | LarstiQ: Huh! | 11:45 |
| LarstiQ | ping time of 40 ms, eek | 11:45 |
| jml | Peng_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/189532/ | 11:45 |
| wgrant | ... 40ms is eek? | 11:45 |
| Peng_ | LarstiQ: I hate you. My *normal* ping time is 140 ms. | 11:45 |
| Peng_ | :( | 11:45 |
| jml | Peng_: sadly, that depends on a branch of launchpadlib that is not trunk | 11:45 |
| LarstiQ | wgrant: considering I live across a small stretch of water, yes | 11:45 |
| jml | Peng_: if you tell me the url of the branch you want mirrored, I can request it now. | 11:45 |
| wgrant | Peng_: I hate you. *My* normal ping time is >300ms. | 11:46 |
| Peng_ | jml: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mnordhoff/loggerhead/valid-feed -- only 16 minutes left now anyway, though. | 11:46 |
| jml | wgrant: there's probably more distance between you & I than between LarstiQ & the data centre :) | 11:46 |
| wgrant | jml: Probably. | 11:46 |
| Peng_ | wgrant: Is that due to distance or a generally shitty connection, though? | 11:46 |
| wgrant | Peng_: An ocean or two. | 11:46 |
| jml | Peng_: done. | 11:46 |
| Peng_ | jml: I love you! Thanks! | 11:47 |
| jml | no probs. | 11:47 |
| wgrant | jml: What were you doing for the Free LP effort this morning? | 11:47 |
| Peng_ | wgrant: I'm worse off than you in some ways, then. Even if Canonical was down the street from me, pings would still be 70-00 ms. | 11:47 |
| wgrant | Peng_: Why? | 11:47 |
| Peng_ | wgrant: Why what? | 11:48 |
| LarstiQ | dialup? | 11:48 |
| wgrant | Peng_: Why would they be that bad? | 11:48 |
| jml | Peng_: I *really* want that script public and in Bazaar. | 11:48 |
| Peng_ | wgrant: It's not bad but it could be better. | 11:48 |
| jml | wgrant: I was upgrading the version of Bazaar that's on Launchpad. | 11:48 |
| LarstiQ | jml: versioned, or included in our release? | 11:49 |
| jml | LarstiQ: the latter. | 11:49 |
| jml | LarstiQ: I think it would fit under the launchpad plugin umbrella | 11:49 |
| jml | LarstiQ: as long as it was a soft dependency, of course. | 11:50 |
| LarstiQ | jml: I see. | 11:50 |
| * jml doesn't want wadllib, launchpadlib & lazr.uri to be requirements for bzr users. | 11:50 | |
| LarstiQ | jml: uh huh | 11:52 |
| LarstiQ | jml: are you still going to be at EuroPython btw? | 11:52 |
| jml | LarstiQ: indeed I am. | 11:52 |
| jml | LarstiQ: I sent an email about it to the bzr list today, I think. | 11:52 |
| jml | or yesterday | 11:52 |
| jml | offtopic, but I need a Python sanity check: http://paste.ubuntu.com/189534/ | 11:53 |
| LarstiQ | jml: I'm having difficulties with not being backlogged by email, I'll dig this one out. | 11:54 |
| jml | (hey kids, it's time to meet our friend the associative law!) | 11:54 |
| * LarstiQ will be present at least | 11:54 | |
| LarstiQ | jml: hmm, I'm not entirely sure that is true. | 11:55 |
| LarstiQ | jml: but I'm not up to thinking about the intricacies of exception handling atm | 11:56 |
| jml | I'm pretty sure it is true. | 11:57 |
| jml | but I'm also not up to said intricacies. | 11:58 |
| Peng_ | That problem overloads my sleepy brain. :P | 12:01 |
| Peng_ | Take it to #python or comp.lang.python or something. | 12:01 |
| jml | heh | 12:03 |
| Peng_ | jml: Would it be possible to hit Ctrl+C in between lines 10 and 11? Then f and g would never be called. | 12:04 |
| jml | I'll rephrase it in Twisted terms -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/189537/ -- and ask #twisted | 12:04 |
| Peng_ | jml: Similarly, if it is possible to hit Ctrl+C in between 3 and 4, g and h would never be called. | 12:04 |
| Peng_ | Maybe. I dunno. | 12:04 |
| Peng_ | Probably. | 12:04 |
| Peng_ | jml: OK, I don't know Twisted at all. Sorry. | 12:05 |
| jml | that's ok. :) | 12:05 |
| Peng_ | jml: Thanks again for prodding my branch! :) | 12:05 |
| jml | Peng_: as you can probably tell from the two pasted examples, a large part of Twisted is just expressing Python control flow using Python functions. | 12:05 |
| jml | Peng_: np. | 12:05 |
| wgrant | jml: Why don't mirrored branches have a 'Mirror Now' button, like the ~vcs-imports 'Import Now' one? | 12:12 |
| jml | wgrant: haven't got around to it. | 12:13 |
| wgrant | jml: Ah, good! | 12:13 |
| jml | wgrant: in general, we're pretty keen on making mirrored branches more like imported branches, or vice versa. | 12:13 |
| wgrant | jml: Why are mirrored branches owned by the user, but vcs-imports by ~vcs-imports? | 12:16 |
| jml | wgrant: historical reasons. :) | 12:17 |
| wgrant | I guess that might make sense, as imports are normally done by people who don't really manage the branch. | 12:17 |
| jml | wgrant: yeah. imports are a much blacker magic than mirrors. | 12:17 |
| jml | so the import system was originally a lot more paranoid than the mirror system | 12:18 |
| jml | and the paranoia has stuck. | 12:18 |
| jml | now I'm remembering how things looked in Jan 2007. | 12:19 |
| wgrant | What was different back then? I didn't use lp-bzr much in those days. | 12:19 |
| jml | the code import system was basically terrible. | 12:20 |
| Peng_ | Back then, you had to use smoke or drum signals to request an import. :D | 12:21 |
| Peng_ | And it was manually done 1 byte at a time by a room ful of interns. | 12:21 |
| jml | both ways in the snow | 12:21 |
| LarstiQ | from outside, it seems like two people quit their jobs over it | 12:22 |
| LarstiQ | but that might be overly dramatic | 12:22 |
| jml | probably :) | 12:22 |
| AnMaster | How will launchpad handle if a mirrored branch is upgraded from (for example) pack-0.92 to 1.14? | 12:38 |
| AnMaster | will it properly handle this in it's mirroring? | 12:39 |
| mwhudson | AnMaster: yes | 12:42 |
| AnMaster | ah | 12:42 |
| mwhudson | well | 12:42 |
| AnMaster | good to know | 12:42 |
| mwhudson | it will re-mirror from scratch | 12:42 |
| AnMaster | mwhudson, ah. Might take a while, Since reason I'm considering switching is due to lots of revisions. | 12:43 |
| Peng_ | Well, if it's capable of stacking now, that won't be a problem. | 12:43 |
| mwhudson | launchpad is pretty patient :) | 12:43 |
| Peng_ | (Well, as much of one.) | 12:43 |
| Peng_ | mwhudson: Unless someone screwed up progress bars again. :D | 12:43 |
| AnMaster | Peng_, oh? | 12:44 |
| AnMaster | that sounds interesting | 12:44 |
| mwhudson | Peng_: the transport activity reporting /should/ avoid that problem | 12:45 |
| Peng_ | AnMaster: Not very. It was mostly a joke. LP will kill a mirror job if it doesn't output anything for a long time. This isn't a problem because of the progress bars, but sometimes changes in bzr stop it from updating them frequently enough. | 12:46 |
| AnMaster | hm | 12:47 |
| Peng_ | mwhudson: Oh, I just realized what you meant. Good point. | 12:48 |
| kolby | would Lauchpad benefit from having a service similar to Bespin ? | 14:04 |
| * kolby s/Lauchpad/Launchpad | 14:05 | |
| adiroiban | Hi, do you know why this LP user does not have a OpenID https://edge.launchpad.net/~kundi ? | 14:07 |
| kolby | no. | 14:08 |
| kolby | adiroiban: why do you ask? | 14:12 |
| adiroiban | I want to help the user set it's openid account | 14:12 |
| adiroiban | and I don't know how to do it | 14:13 |
| kolby | adiroiban: have you ever set up an openid account? | 14:13 |
| kolby | !openid | 14:13 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about openid | 14:13 |
| kolby | try going to openid's website. They explain it there. | 14:14 |
| adiroiban | I have OpneID enabled for my acoount | 14:14 |
| adiroiban | but I don't know how can I enable or disable it | 14:14 |
| kolby | I see | 14:16 |
| kolby | it doesn't look like a disable option was implemented. I don't know. | 14:18 |
| adiroiban | but I can not find the "enable" option | 14:19 |
| kolby | I wouldn't understand why it wouldn't be automatically enabled. | 14:20 |
| adiroiban | well... like you can see. it's not | 14:20 |
| kolby | right. that was your point. | 14:20 |
| kolby | I really can't help. | 14:20 |
| adiroiban | np | 14:21 |
| adiroiban | thanks anyway | 14:21 |
| kolby | sorry. | 14:21 |
| adiroiban | kolby: it looks like only the registred user can see it's own openid link | 14:46 |
| adiroiban | and everyone has the openid enabled | 14:47 |
| adiroiban | and you can find out the openid link by looking at the html source of a user | 14:47 |
| adiroiban | and look afte openid.referer | 14:47 |
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| aboSamoor | Hi, I have a personal repository, I branched it on my laptop and desktop. Trying to push from my laptop I got this error "bzr: ERROR: These branches have diverged." | 15:38 |
| intellectronica | aboSamoor: well, bzr probably knows what it's talking about :) | 15:41 |
| intellectronica | if you don't care about the changeset in the public branch, just push with --overwrite. otherwise, merge the changes from the public branch first, and then push | 15:41 |
| aboSamoor | intellectronica: I am new to the control version system, I tried to merge but I got this error "bzr: ERROR: Working tree "/media/sda7/repo/" has uncommitted changes" | 15:42 |
| intellectronica | aboSamoor: well, once again, that's a pretty straightforward message, isn't it? you have changes that you have not committed yet. commit them before you try merging from another branch | 15:43 |
| aboSamoor | intellectronica: would you explain what was the problem ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/189633/ | 15:48 |
| intellectronica | aboSamoor: i'm not sure i understand, i don't see any "problem" in your paste | 15:49 |
| aboSamoor | intellectronica: how could I commit twice even I did not make any change ? and the first commit [i.e, 66] was already committed from my desktop ? | 15:50 |
| intellectronica | aboSamoor: in line 16 you've merged code from the public branch, so you did have new changes | 15:51 |
| jordyD | Out of curiosity, does anybody know if Google Wave will be implemented in launchpad after it comes out? | 17:13 |
| nhandler | jordyD: I have a feeling that no changes will be made right away. Everyone will want to wait and see if it is worth it. However, this is just my opinion. | 17:17 |
| jordyD | nhandler: I hope it makes it. It seems very useful. | 17:23 |
| SamB | jordyD: what's Google Wave ? | 17:24 |
| jordyD | SamB: It was described by google as "email if it were invented today". You can read more about it at wave.google.com | 17:25 |
| SamB | that sounds like something I wouldn't want to use for some reason | 17:25 |
| SamB | I guess I don't think much of todays "inventions" | 17:26 |
| jordyD | SamB: I would describe it better as threaded IM. | 17:26 |
| SamB | does it have an RFC ? | 17:26 |
| SamB | jordyD: oh. | 17:26 |
| SamB | how's that different from email? | 17:26 |
| jordyD | SamB: It's all in one place. It's not separated into everyone's inbox. Other than that, nothing. | 17:27 |
| nhandler | SamB: If you have time, watch the video. It has many more features than IM. | 17:27 |
| nhandler | s/IM/email/ | 17:28 |
| jordyD | SamB: Plus, it's literally instant. You can see responses as they're being typed. | 17:28 |
| SamB | oh | 17:28 |
| SamB | that sounds too instant for me! | 17:28 |
| jordyD | SamB: If you have an hour and 20 minutes, the video can explain it all to you. :) | 17:29 |
| SamB | that's a long video! | 17:30 |
| SamB | I don't usually watch videos that long unless they're of Simon Peyton Jones | 17:30 |
| jordyD | SamB: Who is Simon Peyton Jones? | 17:32 |
| SamB | jordyD: he's one of the maintainers of the GHC Haskell compiler, and he's very enthusiastic | 17:33 |
| jordyD | SamB: Ah. I don't know much about Haskell, which is probably why I don't know him. | 17:34 |
| intellectronica | SamB: if you're interested in functionaly programming you could do a lot worse than reading a bit about wave. the technology behind it draws quite a lot on functional programming, and is quite interesting | 18:14 |
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| Ampelbein | hi. i get an oops trying to add a bugwatch to bug 357761, oops-id: OOPS-1253ED612 . This is happening on edge. | 22:59 |
| ubottu | Bug 357761 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/357761 is private | 22:59 |
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