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zniavrehttp://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1.png   does the shadow is correct please ?09:41
knomethorwil, if you order one of those (displays), will you order one for me as well ;)12:25
knomezniavre, does not look totally wrong.12:26
knomezniavre, i am bad with shadows, though.12:26
thorwilknome, sure. right after my world tour!12:44
knome:]12:44
knomebut really, the resolution is quite lousy12:45
thorwilgnarg  http://www.flickr.com/photos/mairin/3599035712/12:57
knomeo.o13:21
* MetalMusicAddict waves.18:39
* MetalMusicAddict is _MMA_ (from a different PC.)18:40
MetalMusicAddictmacvr: Why did you remove your color of "document-save"? I think green was better there.18:44
macvri liked it too but , it was too similar to daniel's submission felt like cheating :P18:44
macvrMetalMusicAddict: ^18:45
MetalMusicAddictNaa... That's what's needed sometimes.18:45
macvrMetalMusicAddict: also thought that someone might tell daniel himself to correct the color18:46
MetalMusicAddictAlso note, I won't be able to reply to the list 'till tomorrow night or so.18:46
macvrnp...18:46
macvrMetalMusicAddict: so should i add mine or , will someone tel daniel?18:46
MetalMusicAddictWell since you nixed it now, just drop a note on the list.18:47
macvrMetalMusicAddict: did u check the emblems, i tried to keep them simple since they will never be viewed full... how are they?18:47
MetalMusicAddictI really want to reply again to the thread about the spreadsheet mime. Nobody listened to my 1st post about setteling the look of the base mime 1st.18:48
* MetalMusicAddict looks again18:48
MetalMusicAddictmacvr: Oh yeah. Are they from scratch?18:49
macvryup, onlt for the downloads the world icon i copied off of the internet categories icon18:50
macvronly^18:50
MetalMusicAddictReally? And you just started with SVGs? :)18:50
macvrMetalMusicAddict: come on, they are just simple lines... are they usable? or need any editing?18:51
macvrjust started on 1 emblem then since i was on a roll , made 6!18:51
MetalMusicAddictYou'de be surprised how many can't even do that. ;)18:52
MetalMusicAddictBut yeah. I like 'em. Might need a little shine here and there.18:52
MetalMusicAddictI wanna see what Seb says.18:52
macvrMetalMusicAddict: like my initial submissions for nm-signals?18:52
MetalMusicAddictI think the "X" and "!" finishes are off from the others though.18:53
macvrMetalMusicAddict: hei x is me18:53
MetalMusicAddictThey have this edge shine that looks to be missing from the others. (I'd get rid of it)18:53
thorwilmacvr, i think the favorite star should be symmetrical. or have a clear perspective18:53
MetalMusicAddictBut I like the odd shape to the arrows.18:54
thorwilmacvr, for downloads, try to put the globe in front and/or make it larger18:54
MetalMusicAddictthorwil: Really? Strait-on? I thought the perspective worked. Kinda quirky.18:54
macvrMetalMusicAddict: i had a tough time with x , i made that 1 fully, but ! i copied the lines and tried to remake from mail-important18:55
thorwilMetalMusicAddict, yes, quirky. is Breathe quirky?18:55
MetalMusicAddictthorwil: Well we don't have to be *SO* serious.:)18:56
macvrthorwil: i wanted to have the perspective, atleast let the fav have its perspective , MetalMusicAddict wont let the folders !18:56
MetalMusicAddictBut I could take it or leave it.18:56
macvrthorwil: i tried to put the globe ahead, but didnt look that good :(18:57
MetalMusicAddictmacvr: huh? What about the folders?18:57
macvrMetalMusicAddict: perspective.. :P18:57
MetalMusicAddictWell as long as it hits the design points I'm open. ;)18:58
thorwilthe X strokes end with non 90 degree angles18:58
macvrthorwil: also when it goes smaller there is a problem with the circle shape of the globe , hence i'v hid it in the 16px..18:58
macvrthorwil: that was purposeful18:59
macvrx18:59
thorwilwell, i hope if i cut that X in halves and flip one to compare them, they will match ;)19:00
macvrthorwil: since i had the X not at as the tilted + , it created a weird effect! since i'm new i found this the best i could get, but if u can better it.. go ahead19:00
macvrthey wont :P19:01
MetalMusicAddictmacvr: As for the network icons, I really have to give more thought to it. I think I need to create a page for all of it. Listing where these all could be used. I have it on my list but I traveled back home this weekend (300 miles) to see my family so I can't get to it 'till next week.19:01
thorwilmacvr, i think synchronized is too close to some reload icons. plain ends on the arrows would move it away a bit19:02
macvrMetalMusicAddict: did u check dashua's screenshot>> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/15709/screenshot_HP9X2C.png < u can view the nm -icons in action19:03
thorwilmacvr, i can guide you through how to make sure things are symmetrical, but i will for sure not check each submission19:03
MetalMusicAddictmacvr: Yes I did. Slick. But like I said, I want to see more submissions before I make any switch.19:04
macvrthorwil: will try the sync with plain ends but , tried this since i didnt want to do the same way it is always done...19:05
macvrMetalMusicAddict: no problem , just wanted u to check it out.. :)19:05
MetalMusicAddictmacvr: Keep the current submission up when you put up the edit with thorwils suggestions.19:06
macvrok19:06
SiDimacvr, what do you think the battery icons are ? big cheating from me :) the original one is what holds 97% of the work, and i didnt do it ^^19:07
macvrMetalMusicAddict: why do all the actions have light from below? why not maintain the lights everywhere?19:07
SiDiactually for the arrow icons having bottom light19:08
macvrSiDi: :P   ... well then i'll just add them to spite daniel :P19:08
SiDii whined about it too, and i think seb too19:08
MetalMusicAddictmacvr: Talk to daniel about that. He's done them.19:08
SiDibut it was forgotten amongst the big feedback and once the bottom light icons were polished it was a bit late19:08
macvrMetalMusicAddict: he said that u shot him down!19:08
MetalMusicAddictmacvr: Id have to look back. You gotta remember, you guys work on specific areas where I have to see things as a whole. Sometimes, past chats are forgotten.19:09
MetalMusicAddictLots to remember. :P19:10
SiDi:p19:10
SiDithe work part of artwork :p19:10
MetalMusicAddictmacvr: But you keep it in mind and bring it up next week. We'll revisit it then.19:10
macvrMetalMusicAddict: np... but check the light for the icons before proposing to replace human... i think the lights are very inconsistent..19:10
macvrok..19:11
MetalMusicAddictmacvr: Remember this is a process. So sometimes I'll let things in that are *almost* there to refine later.19:11
MetalMusicAddictmacvr: If I got hung up on everything to be 100%, we'd have like 10 icons. :P19:12
macvrMetalMusicAddict: np...i understand...i'll remind u later... but there is a mail in the list "lighting effect of actions"...  incase i forget too :P19:13
MetalMusicAddictSure. I just can't get to it (my list email) from here.19:13
MetalMusicAddictBut I'm reading the web archive.19:13
macvrthorwil: got sidetracked... symmetry ? how i did the x was , i made a rectangle , duplicated it and flipped it... but when something didnt look good i adjusted it...19:22
thorwilmacvr, well, you can see things like such non-straight angles in typography sometimes19:28
thorwilmacvr, anyway, you should make sure that things are either clearly symmetrical, or obviously not at all. "almost" is bad, as it nags the viewer19:29
macvrthorwil: the problem i had was , i didnt want the X arms to be symmetrical! so i ended up having to adjust the edjes19:29
macvri didnt want the arms to point to the corners, hence i had the problems!19:30
thorwilmacvr, do you mean vertcial or horizontal symmetry now?19:30
macvri think the horizontal doesnt have much prob, but it more the vertical plane19:32
thorwilmacvr, to me it looks like the X is meant to be symmetrcial on both axes. if it is not, it should be more pronounced19:33
thorwilmacvr, you could study the letter X in various fonts to see some approaches19:34
macvrok... i'll have to be more careful, what i adjust :) i think i accidentally adjusted a wrong line and had to adjust the rest :( using the laptop to draw is tough!19:35
macvri think mouse would have been better.!19:35
thorwilouch, yeah :)19:35
macvrusin the tap to lock and drag just makes it tough to release :( , sometimes i'll have to try several times to just get it to the right px!19:36
thorwilmacvr, if you have shape you need to tweak and later on need the other halve of it to be symmetrical ...19:37
macvrthorwil: i think that where i went wrong, i didnt make the same changes on either sides!19:37
macvrthats^19:37
thorwilit's best to delete the halve of it, copy the remaining, flip it and use the arrange tools to place it exactly on the cut19:38
thorwilin this case, you do have nodes exactly on the axis of symmetry19:38
macvrthorwil: how do i erase? or delete part of the image?19:38
thorwilmacvr, with bezier tool, drag select all nodes on the bad side and hit delete key19:39
macvrthorwil: oh... thats the only option :( an eraser like the one in GIMP would be wonderful19:40
thorwilmacvr, then select the nodes on the open side and make the segment straight (horizontal toolbar)19:40
thorwilmacvr, no, the other option is to use a rectangle19:40
macvrhorizontal toolbar? what is that?19:41
thorwilmake it cover the part you don't want anymore, select both, hit ctrl-shift-minus (substract, also in the menus)19:41
thorwilmacvr, are you on inkscape 0.46?19:42
macvrs19:42
macvru mean the one on the top?19:42
thorwilyes19:42
macvrok..19:42
macvrunrelated... what is glyph meaning?19:43
macvrthorwil: ^19:44
thorwiljust another term similar to sign, symbol, character19:44
macvrok... hear it sometimes in the mailing list, google didnt give a better reply... so was wondering19:45
macvrthorwil: also, will the object combine when it is flipped ?19:46
thorwilmacvr, not automatically. use the arrage tools to place the half exactly on the cut line. then select both halves and do Path -> Union19:48
macvrthorwil: ok...thank you... ill see how i can improve that X icon...  :)19:48
thorwilyou might want to play with 2 objects and the Align and Distribute tools a bit to see what each one does19:49
SiDiAnyone living in dublin with a room/flat i could rent for this summer, by chance ? :P19:49
macvri havent used them untill now , but will play soon...19:49
macvrthorwil: ^19:49
thorwilgood :)19:50
macvrthorwil: thankx for the tips... :)19:50
thorwilnp19:50

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