[09:41] http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1.png does the shadow is correct please ? [12:25] thorwil, if you order one of those (displays), will you order one for me as well ;) [12:26] zniavre, does not look totally wrong. [12:26] zniavre, i am bad with shadows, though. [12:44] knome, sure. right after my world tour! [12:44] :] [12:45] but really, the resolution is quite lousy [12:57] gnarg http://www.flickr.com/photos/mairin/3599035712/ [13:21] o.o [18:39] * MetalMusicAddict waves. [18:40] * MetalMusicAddict is _MMA_ (from a different PC.) [18:44] macvr: Why did you remove your color of "document-save"? I think green was better there. [18:44] i liked it too but , it was too similar to daniel's submission felt like cheating :P [18:45] MetalMusicAddict: ^ [18:45] Naa... That's what's needed sometimes. [18:46] MetalMusicAddict: also thought that someone might tell daniel himself to correct the color [18:46] Also note, I won't be able to reply to the list 'till tomorrow night or so. [18:46] np... [18:46] MetalMusicAddict: so should i add mine or , will someone tel daniel? [18:47] Well since you nixed it now, just drop a note on the list. [18:47] MetalMusicAddict: did u check the emblems, i tried to keep them simple since they will never be viewed full... how are they? [18:48] I really want to reply again to the thread about the spreadsheet mime. Nobody listened to my 1st post about setteling the look of the base mime 1st. [18:48] * MetalMusicAddict looks again [18:49] macvr: Oh yeah. Are they from scratch? [18:50] yup, onlt for the downloads the world icon i copied off of the internet categories icon [18:50] only^ [18:50] Really? And you just started with SVGs? :) [18:51] MetalMusicAddict: come on, they are just simple lines... are they usable? or need any editing? [18:51] just started on 1 emblem then since i was on a roll , made 6! [18:52] You'de be surprised how many can't even do that. ;) [18:52] But yeah. I like 'em. Might need a little shine here and there. [18:52] I wanna see what Seb says. [18:52] MetalMusicAddict: like my initial submissions for nm-signals? [18:53] I think the "X" and "!" finishes are off from the others though. [18:53] MetalMusicAddict: hei x is me [18:53] They have this edge shine that looks to be missing from the others. (I'd get rid of it) [18:53] macvr, i think the favorite star should be symmetrical. or have a clear perspective [18:54] But I like the odd shape to the arrows. [18:54] macvr, for downloads, try to put the globe in front and/or make it larger [18:54] thorwil: Really? Strait-on? I thought the perspective worked. Kinda quirky. [18:55] MetalMusicAddict: i had a tough time with x , i made that 1 fully, but ! i copied the lines and tried to remake from mail-important [18:55] MetalMusicAddict, yes, quirky. is Breathe quirky? [18:56] thorwil: Well we don't have to be *SO* serious.:) [18:56] thorwil: i wanted to have the perspective, atleast let the fav have its perspective , MetalMusicAddict wont let the folders ! [18:56] But I could take it or leave it. [18:57] thorwil: i tried to put the globe ahead, but didnt look that good :( [18:57] macvr: huh? What about the folders? [18:57] MetalMusicAddict: perspective.. :P [18:58] Well as long as it hits the design points I'm open. ;) [18:58] the X strokes end with non 90 degree angles [18:58] thorwil: also when it goes smaller there is a problem with the circle shape of the globe , hence i'v hid it in the 16px.. [18:59] thorwil: that was purposeful [18:59] x [19:00] well, i hope if i cut that X in halves and flip one to compare them, they will match ;) [19:00] thorwil: since i had the X not at as the tilted + , it created a weird effect! since i'm new i found this the best i could get, but if u can better it.. go ahead [19:01] they wont :P [19:01] macvr: As for the network icons, I really have to give more thought to it. I think I need to create a page for all of it. Listing where these all could be used. I have it on my list but I traveled back home this weekend (300 miles) to see my family so I can't get to it 'till next week. [19:02] macvr, i think synchronized is too close to some reload icons. plain ends on the arrows would move it away a bit [19:03] MetalMusicAddict: did u check dashua's screenshot>> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/15709/screenshot_HP9X2C.png < u can view the nm -icons in action [19:03] macvr, i can guide you through how to make sure things are symmetrical, but i will for sure not check each submission [19:04] macvr: Yes I did. Slick. But like I said, I want to see more submissions before I make any switch. [19:05] thorwil: will try the sync with plain ends but , tried this since i didnt want to do the same way it is always done... [19:05] MetalMusicAddict: no problem , just wanted u to check it out.. :) [19:06] macvr: Keep the current submission up when you put up the edit with thorwils suggestions. [19:06] ok [19:07] macvr, what do you think the battery icons are ? big cheating from me :) the original one is what holds 97% of the work, and i didnt do it ^^ [19:07] MetalMusicAddict: why do all the actions have light from below? why not maintain the lights everywhere? [19:08] actually for the arrow icons having bottom light [19:08] SiDi: :P ... well then i'll just add them to spite daniel :P [19:08] i whined about it too, and i think seb too [19:08] macvr: Talk to daniel about that. He's done them. [19:08] but it was forgotten amongst the big feedback and once the bottom light icons were polished it was a bit late [19:08] MetalMusicAddict: he said that u shot him down! [19:09] macvr: Id have to look back. You gotta remember, you guys work on specific areas where I have to see things as a whole. Sometimes, past chats are forgotten. [19:10] Lots to remember. :P [19:10] :p [19:10] the work part of artwork :p [19:10] macvr: But you keep it in mind and bring it up next week. We'll revisit it then. [19:10] MetalMusicAddict: np... but check the light for the icons before proposing to replace human... i think the lights are very inconsistent.. [19:11] ok.. [19:11] macvr: Remember this is a process. So sometimes I'll let things in that are *almost* there to refine later. [19:12] macvr: If I got hung up on everything to be 100%, we'd have like 10 icons. :P [19:13] MetalMusicAddict: np...i understand...i'll remind u later... but there is a mail in the list "lighting effect of actions"... incase i forget too :P [19:13] Sure. I just can't get to it (my list email) from here. [19:13] But I'm reading the web archive. [19:22] thorwil: got sidetracked... symmetry ? how i did the x was , i made a rectangle , duplicated it and flipped it... but when something didnt look good i adjusted it... [19:28] macvr, well, you can see things like such non-straight angles in typography sometimes [19:29] macvr, anyway, you should make sure that things are either clearly symmetrical, or obviously not at all. "almost" is bad, as it nags the viewer [19:29] thorwil: the problem i had was , i didnt want the X arms to be symmetrical! so i ended up having to adjust the edjes [19:30] i didnt want the arms to point to the corners, hence i had the problems! [19:30] macvr, do you mean vertcial or horizontal symmetry now? [19:32] i think the horizontal doesnt have much prob, but it more the vertical plane [19:33] macvr, to me it looks like the X is meant to be symmetrcial on both axes. if it is not, it should be more pronounced [19:34] macvr, you could study the letter X in various fonts to see some approaches [19:35] ok... i'll have to be more careful, what i adjust :) i think i accidentally adjusted a wrong line and had to adjust the rest :( using the laptop to draw is tough! [19:35] i think mouse would have been better.! [19:35] ouch, yeah :) [19:36] usin the tap to lock and drag just makes it tough to release :( , sometimes i'll have to try several times to just get it to the right px! [19:37] macvr, if you have shape you need to tweak and later on need the other halve of it to be symmetrical ... [19:37] thorwil: i think that where i went wrong, i didnt make the same changes on either sides! [19:37] thats^ [19:38] it's best to delete the halve of it, copy the remaining, flip it and use the arrange tools to place it exactly on the cut [19:38] in this case, you do have nodes exactly on the axis of symmetry [19:38] thorwil: how do i erase? or delete part of the image? [19:39] macvr, with bezier tool, drag select all nodes on the bad side and hit delete key [19:40] thorwil: oh... thats the only option :( an eraser like the one in GIMP would be wonderful [19:40] macvr, then select the nodes on the open side and make the segment straight (horizontal toolbar) [19:40] macvr, no, the other option is to use a rectangle [19:41] horizontal toolbar? what is that? [19:41] make it cover the part you don't want anymore, select both, hit ctrl-shift-minus (substract, also in the menus) [19:42] macvr, are you on inkscape 0.46? [19:42] s [19:42] u mean the one on the top? [19:42] yes [19:42] ok.. [19:43] unrelated... what is glyph meaning? [19:44] thorwil: ^ [19:44] just another term similar to sign, symbol, character [19:45] ok... hear it sometimes in the mailing list, google didnt give a better reply... so was wondering [19:46] thorwil: also, will the object combine when it is flipped ? [19:48] macvr, not automatically. use the arrage tools to place the half exactly on the cut line. then select both halves and do Path -> Union [19:48] thorwil: ok...thank you... ill see how i can improve that X icon... :) [19:49] you might want to play with 2 objects and the Align and Distribute tools a bit to see what each one does [19:49] Anyone living in dublin with a room/flat i could rent for this summer, by chance ? :P [19:49] i havent used them untill now , but will play soon... [19:49] thorwil: ^ [19:50] good :) [19:50] thorwil: thankx for the tips... :) [19:50] np