freeflying_Groo_: you'd upload a new version again, not just a diff00:09
JontheEchidna_Groo_: build with -S -sd00:09
JontheEchidnathat way you won't have to resend the orig00:09
_Groo_JontheEchidna: ok thanks00:09
JontheEchidnait'll try to be smart and include the source since the version string most probably contains 0ubuntu100:09
JontheEchidnabut -sd overrides taht00:10
_Groo_JontheEchidna: amarok is on its way with apachelogger recomended fixed.. now its 12M.. much better00:10
_Groo_JontheEchidna: highly recomend you guys to play with it... these new services are very cool00:12
_Groo_JontheEchidna: later im gonna do a separate package for it, maybe then we could add it to kubuntu-ppa00:13
_Groo_separate package for playground services i mean00:13
JontheEchidnathat'd be neat00:13
Nightroseplease don't00:16
Nightrosethis stuff is in our playground for a reason00:16
NightroseI am not a big fan of having that released somewhere at this point00:17
_Groo_Nightrose: ok... ill just blog about it and provide in a ppa with a big (not finished sign)00:19
NightroseI can't stop you00:19
Nightrosebut as I said I'd rather not have that00:20
_Groo_Nightrose: btw any eta for the master opening up.. i cant wait for the docker patch to merge00:20
Nightrosenext week00:20
Nightrosebut i'm not sure when Nikolaj will merge that patch00:20
_Groo_Nightrose: why not? the idea is for early adopters to get a taste of whats to come.. if open source was about development through obscurity what would be the point of open svn/git, etc00:20
_Groo_Nightrose: if never :P00:21
Nightrosethings in playground are not ready - as soon as we think they are reasonably ready for feedback and testing they will be moved out of playground00:21
Nightroseuntil then testing and bugreports are useless00:21
Nightroseand we'll just get lots of complains00:22
Nightroseand users not understanding that this is nowhere near complete00:22
_Groo_Nightrose: like i said.. i would blog and post.. this ppa has a experimental code, dont even bother to bug report or bug the devs.. its a for your eyes only thing00:22
_Groo_Nightrose: and my blog isnt that well known anyway :D00:23
_Groo_Nightrose: its not like im gonna publish it to slashdot lol00:23
Nightroseas i said, i can't stop you ;-)00:31
Nightroseall I can do is tell you what upstream would like00:31
_Groo_Nightrose: and what upstream would like?00:31
JontheEchidnashe is upstream ;-)00:32
Nightroseshe is even upstreams release manager ;-)00:32
groo_Nightrose: ok nightrose, ill wait..00:33
groo_dinner bbl00:34
_Groo_hi/2 all05:35
_Groo_amarok 2.1.1 svn with playground enabled available in my ppa.. enjoy! https://edge.launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ppa06:13
apacheloggerQuintasan: I reviewied something, dunno what it was08:51
apacheloggerah right, krunner-kopete :D08:51
apacheloggercome to think of it08:52
apacheloggerQuintasan: you should discuss the name with the debian-kde team08:52
apacheloggerbecause technically it should be plasma-runner-kopete08:52
apacheloggerthen again upstream uses krunner-kopete, which makes it less confusing as well08:53
apacheloggerworth discussing I guess08:53
Quintasanapachelogger: okay I will ask them what the package name should be :P09:06
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apacheloggerJontheEchidna: please keep an eye on bug 38158010:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 381580 in koffice2 "kword crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38158010:18
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Quintasanapachelogger: ping11:44
apacheloggerQuintasan: pong11:45
Quintasanapachelogger: if I changed package name I should upload it to revu as a new package or there is certain way of doing this?11:45
apacheloggerno, there is not11:46
apacheloggerQuintasan: debian liked plasma-runner better?11:46
Quintasanyup :)11:46
apacheloggerthought so :D11:46
QuintasanWho should I poke to get my old packages removed from REVU?11:46
Quintasanapachelogger: I also got the licese issue fixed so I think it's ready to go11:47
apacheloggerQuintasan: youll need to poke a revu admin11:47
apacheloggeror we could just archive it11:47
apacheloggerthough honestly I dont see the point in keeping it :D11:48
Quintasanapachelogger: yup, waste of space, where I can find them?11:48
Quintasanapachelogger: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-runner-kopete11:49
apacheloggerQuintasan: there is a list of admins in the ubuntu wiki I think11:49
apacheloggerotherwise just start whining in #ubuntuwire11:49
apacheloggerQuintasan: still doesn't sound too correct11:50
apachelogger This is a plugin for KRunner which searches through your Kopete contacts and11:50
apachelogger allows you to start a chat with them without needing to open Kopete window.11:50
apacheloggerthat sounds like kopete window was a trademark or something11:51
apacheloggeror like a name ... my name is window, kopete window11:51
apacheloggerI also still think the build-deps need a line break11:51
apachelogger+ you could drop kdelibs5-dev ... both other -devs depend on it11:52
QuintasanI hate writing descriptions >_<11:52
apacheloggerand that will never ever change I guess :D11:52
apacheloggereveryone hates writing descriptions :P11:52
apachelogger    the Free Software Foundation; either version 3 of the License, or11:53
apachelogger    (at your option) any later version.11:53
apachelogger *   it under the terms of the GNU General Public License version 3 as11:53
apachelogger *   published by the Free Software Foundation11:53
apacheloggertaking aside the fact that the wording is different, the meaning is as well ;-)11:53
apacheloggerlater vs. no-later11:53
Quintasanapachelogger: http://pastebin.com/f26d6e124 <-- is this better?11:55
apacheloggerno :P11:55
apacheloggerthat sounds like the plugin doesn't need to look through the whole list ;-)11:56
apacheloggerQuintasan: I think you can stick with what you have now11:56
apacheloggerjust make it say "the Kopete window"11:56
apacheloggeror the Kopete contact list11:56
Quintasan...needing to open the Kopete contact list?11:57
QuintasanI accidentaly my description11:58
* Quintasan loves undo11:58
apacheloggersomething like that11:59
apacheloggerbut TBH I find the whole sentence weird :P11:59
Quintasancarp, I uploaded it to Ubuntu12:01
Quintasanapachelogger: check it please :>12:07
apacheloggerQuintasan: your uploads to ubuntu will get rejected12:08
apacheloggeronly uploads from MOTU/core-devs even get into the NEW queue12:08
Quintasanapachelogger: well, I already noticed it :P12:08
Quintasanapachelogger: it's on REVU, updated :P12:08
apacheloggerstill sounds weird12:09
apacheloggerwhat is concerning is the change to copyright though12:09
apacheloggerQuintasan: you should really check what I am talking about12:10
apacheloggera) I am only human as well b) you might not understand me correctly12:10
apacheloggerb especially applies to stuff I say :D12:10
apacheloggerQuintasan: check what the .cpp says12:10
apacheloggerand what your copyright says12:10
Quintasanah, k I get it nao12:11
QuintasanI will just remove (or later) form copyright, this will be okay?12:11
apacheloggerQuintasan: well, if I was you, I would just copy the .cpp's license header and remove the c++ comment markers12:12
apacheloggerdon't forget to remove the +  from GPL-3+ again12:12
Quintasanhmm, sounds good12:12
Quintasanapachelogger: it's good now12:18
apacheloggerI wonder if that is right12:22
apacheloggerhard to read for sure12:23
QuintasanI don't see anything wrong there12:26
Quintasanlol @ Complex example at debian wiki12:29
Mamarokquestion in #kubuntu: can grub run on a ext4 partition?13:16
valgaav_yes it can, I dropped by to #kubuntu and answered that :P13:19
Mamarokvalgaav_: thank you :)13:21
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_Groo_hi/2 all18:51
Riddellhi _Groo_18:53
_Groo_hi Riddell18:54
_Groo_Riddell: whats up?18:54
RiddellCDs 60MB oversized18:55
Riddellguess I should look into what's bringing in those wallpapers18:55
_Groo_Riddell: ehehehe18:55
_Groo_Riddell: rip openoffice out :D18:56
JontheEchidnaRiddell: plasma-wallpapers-addons18:56
JontheEchidnawhich kdeplasma-addons brings in18:56
_Groo_Riddell: just kidding btw.. nut OO relatted, is the openoffice kde extension ported to kde4 yet?18:56
JontheEchidnaand in beta2 it'll bring in marble-data too via libmarble4 via plasma-wallpapers-addons18:57
QuintasanJontheEchidna: Hi, if you have a second please take a look at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-runner-kopete :P18:58
_Groo_oh btw i dont know if you read the backlogs but amarok with playground activated is in my PPA18:58
* Quintasan likes this18:59
ScottK_Groo_: It's this the stuff that Amarok upstream asked you not to package because it wasn't mature yet?18:59
_Groo_ScottK: yes but i didnt publish it anywhere, no blogging nothing, i just sent to ppa because its the first build in a long time, and i had to revise my diffs about 5 times.. its a testing build19:00
_Groo_ScottK: that way i can keep up with future code drops with relative ease19:01
ScottK_Groo_: You're advertising it here.19:01
apacheloggerworse things have been advertised here19:01
JontheEchidnabah, revu went down during my revu19:02
_Groo_ScottK: here we are all packagers/developers, you know what you are doing.. the idea here is for you guys to test it and see if my packaing is ok19:02
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: the description looks better19:02
ScottK_Groo_: I think it19:02
ScottK_Groo_: ... I think it's fine to mention it, but it should get mentioned with a disclaimer.19:02
_Groo_ScottK: i just did :) you didnt let me finish my original post/warning :D19:03
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: have anywhere where you could throw the diff.gz?19:03
apacheloggerpaste it :D19:04
_Groo_but between you and me, it works like a charm ;)19:04
QuintasanJontheEchidna: y19:04
apacheloggercoz tha revu went down on jonny19:04
_Groo_i understand Nightrose zeal for the code and QA, but they must be comended.. it works very well for experimetnal code19:04
* JontheEchidna is wondering if that is a "y" and in "yes", or a "y" and is "why?"19:05
QuintasanJontheEchidna: http://hs.quintasan.pl/plasma-runner-kopete_0.2.1-0ubuntu1.diff.gz19:05
Quintasanas in yes19:05
_Groo_huuu new mesa code, me going to restart X, brb19:06
* Quintasan will update raptor-menu19:06
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: needs debhelper 7 for pkg-kde-tools19:09
JontheEchidnaeasy enough to just change on my end, so we don't have to go pasting around diffs and such19:10
Quintasanhmm I can't upload...19:11
JontheEchidnaanyways, looks good. I'll just change that bit and upload19:11
Quintasanokay, thanks19:11
JontheEchidnaonce revu is back up I'll give it the second ack and archive the revu upload19:11
groo_i just finished k9copy 2.3.2 anyone interested?20:00
Nightrosebtw is it possible to get amarok 2.1 into official backports?20:02
Nightroseit would really help us with not getting anymore 2.0.2 sucks comments20:03
ScottKNightrose: Is 2.1 final in Karmic?20:10
NightroseScottK: afaik yes20:11
ScottKIf it is, then get someone to file a bug in jaunty-backports, test, etc, and then ping me.20:11
ScottKNightrose: ^^20:11
Nightroseok thx20:11
Nightrosei'll start by filing the bug20:12
NightroseScottK: ok bug filed - how many reports do you need approximately?20:24
ScottKNightrose: Exactly one that says it builds, installs, and runs on Jaunty (with a debdiff if required - not needed is debian/changelog is the only change).20:25
lex79_Groo_: k9copy 2.3.2 is in archive already20:32
_Groo_lex79: since when? i didnt got an update20:33
Quintasananyone knows how can I change X resolution via command line?20:33
lex79_Groo_: in Karmic20:34
apacheloggerQuintasan: xrandr20:34
lex79_Groo_: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k9copy20:34
_Groo_lex79: ah ok..20:34
_Groo_im also doing kmplayer-0.11.1a.tar.bz2 and audex-0.71b2.tar.bz220:35
lex79already in Karmic _Groo_ ;)20:37
_Groo_lex79: for jaunty :P no one ever remembers the jauntys20:38
Nightroseapachelogger: JontheEchidna: does one of you have time for https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/jaunty-backports/+bug/384585 ?20:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 384585 in jaunty-backports "Please backport Amarok 2.1" [Undecided,New]20:39
Nightrose(giving ack that it builds and installs20:39
_Groo_Nightrose: i already did amarok 2.1 for jaunty20:40
_Groo_Nightrose: and yes it builds and installs, but need to backport taglib-extra and qtscripting20:40
Nightroseyes but I am trying to get it into official backports20:40
_Groo_ Nightrose: yes i read.. im just saying i might be able to help building it20:40
Nightroseah well that shouldn't be a problem as it is already in the kubuntu ppa20:41
JontheEchidnayeah, I could give it the ack right now20:41
Nightrosethx JontheEchidna :)20:41
JontheEchidnajust after I make sure there weren't really any changes jr made when he backported20:41
Nightrosesure - it's not _that_ urgent ;-)20:41
JontheEchidnathere is a slight change that needs to be made, I can prepare a debdiff20:46
JontheEchidnameh, it'll also need a backport of qtscriptbindings20:50
JontheEchidnaI might not have time today for that20:51
JontheEchidna/s/might/probably won't20:51
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: your syntax is flawed20:55
vorianJontheEchidna: where does your app live?22:04
vorianah plasma-addons22:07
JontheEchidnavorian: yeah, addons22:24
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jussi01hei everyone!22:28
* jussi01 waves22:28
* ScottK waves back.22:28
* _Groo_ summons a wave demon22:28
* ScottK wields the "The Flaming Bacon Lance of Death" to keep the demons at bay.22:29
ScottKhttp://gadgets.boingboing.net/2009/04/15/bb-video-the-flaming.html for those that don't know.22:29
_Groo_ScottK: not fair :D bacon lance of death always kills demons :D22:30
RiddellJontheEchidna: kdelibs-experimental not pushed?22:46
JontheEchidnaI thought I did that one, lemme double-check22:47
JontheEchidnaI am too used to svn now :(22:47
JontheEchidnaRiddell: pushed22:49
Riddell"Add libaspell-dev to build-deps"  erk, don't do that22:49

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