[00:04] hey [00:05] im trying to make a kubuntu install to my external without doing wubi [00:05] any ideas? [00:11] does anyone know how to install directly to my external without bothering the internal? === ninjamaster is now known as bencrisford [00:20] WHAT DO I HAVE TO INSTALL TO RUN COMPIZ?? [00:21] #compiz [00:23] xp-killer: first tell me why you want compiz over kwin? they are pretty close to equal now... [00:23] Has anybody here that uses Hardy been able to encode mp3 files? I've tried 3 different solutions, all with some problem. [00:23] !mp3 [00:23] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [00:24] jussi01: i no noting of kiwn 1st time ive herd of it.and i just need comppis for the easy zoom nothing else [00:24] compiz [00:24] xp-killer: which version are you on? [00:25] 8.10 [00:25] hrm I dont remember 8.10 that well... [00:25] kde [00:25] and now Im going to bed. [00:26] kde in 8.10 should have a zoom effect [00:26] but have a look at system settings desktop [00:26] thanks JontheEchidna :) [00:26] System Settings -> Desktop -> Effects [00:26] I just re-arranged my partitions and /home moved from /dev/sdb7 to /dev/sdb6 as a result. Thins seem ok except my panel customization are gone. [00:26] All of my apps I added to the panel are missing from panel. [00:27] Actually, jussi01, my problem is that ffmpeg seems to not be able to encode MP3 even WITH the appropriate stuff. It does have the "--enable-gpl compiler flag, though, which makes me think it wasn't compiled with MP3 support. [00:28] JontheEchidna: i dont seee effects [00:29] it should be the first module in the Desktop config part of systemsettings [00:30] Let's see....I tried Sound Converter, too....It can't seem to find "decoderbin", some problem with GStreamer, evidently, and lame just plain doesn't seem to be able to handle OGG files, .ogg or .oga. [00:30] JontheEchidna: nope [00:32] So, does anybody know how I'm supposed to be able to encode MP3? I think I've exhausted the main options. === NoName is now known as Guest23273 [00:35] Hi!! [00:36] anybody here? [00:42] < === ubuntu is now known as AlexRE [00:49] hmm, Im having a bit of trouble with a tvout card, and not sure how to troubleshoot it. When the computer boots, POST is sent to the tv, and the kubuntu splash screen, but once boot is complate I get a black screen and Xorg is chewing up 93% cpu [00:58] Hello ya all [00:58] I have volume ext3 and that is other HDD but I want to all space be in /home/ [00:59] I have to Unmount it or .. ? [00:59] like this is confusing little space here little there ... [00:59] I more like to be all in one [01:00] any idea or suggestions ? === Paraselene__ is now known as Paraselene_ [01:12] how do i run compiz without going in the terminal or the run comand to type it? [01:13] #ubuntu [02:03] what is terminal command to open system settings? [02:03] systemsettings [02:04] Dragnslcr, thanks just figured it out as you typed :) === Kernel is now known as Wicked [02:15] is there a KDE gui for altering what services run a different run levels [02:15] the GTK equivalent seems to be BUM [02:19] cmoman4: you can install chkconfig [02:21] cmoman4: does the job relatively good/easy but its console [02:23] susbwoy: okay, had just installed it and seeing if does what a want, older versions of KDE (3?) had a gui and I haven't been able to find the equivalent so far [02:26] !ping [02:26] ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore [02:36] hi, anyone know of a good plotting program to plot recursive functions? === gpf is now known as gpf_ === gpf_ is now known as gpf [02:37] salve [02:38] Yanick_: koctave? [02:39] Yanick_: http://sourceforge.net/projects/koctave/ [02:42] susbwoy, I am currently trying Labplot, looks nice (with TeX support), does koctave have that too? [02:45] Yanick_: yeah latex is everywhere, also look at scilab [02:47] thanx [02:48] susbwoy, man.... I don't know how to work with those shell math programs === sancas_ is now known as sancas === georgej is now known as zapper_1 [03:06] i have 710 installed and i have to keep that version but i need to upgrade the kernel as so my nforce 730i mobo chipsets are detected what kernel do i need to go to and what is the simplest wayto do it, im still a noob [03:06] Hello? [03:06] Hey! I'm here! :d [03:07] I'm still a noob too. [03:07] How do I get to other servers? [03:07] how do I get speed crunch in normal mode [03:07] Don't all answer at once! [03:09] i have 710 installed and i have to keep that version but i need to upgrade the kernel as so my nforce 730i mobo chipsets are detected what kernel do i need to go to and what is the simplest wayto do it, im still a noob [03:11] !upgrade | mandingoceo [03:11] mandingoceo: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - To upgrade to Jaunty (9.04) directly from Hardy (8.04) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04 - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [03:11] mandingoceo- support for 7.10 ended a couple months ago, so there won't be any new kernel packages for it. You can compile a newer kernel for it, but it usually isn't that simple [03:11] mandingoceo, that version is end of life, you will need to upgrade the entire version not just the kernel, as 7.10 is unsupported now [03:13] yeh i know but i have to keep that version, i did compile 2.6.27.14 but my nvidia based chipset mobo wasnt recognized so i was thinking i left something out when selecting what to configure [03:13] when compiling, i didnt see anything that said nvidia so not sure what i missed [03:14] 7.10 is supported no longer [03:16] just need to know what do i need to add when compiling a kernel for nvidia based mobo [03:25] Yanick_: Is qtoctave suitable? [03:29] Yanick_: http://qtoctave.wordpress.com/ [03:37] cmoman4, I don't know how that works [03:37] cmoman4, the koctave I installed is a terminal :/ [03:38] cmoman4, I'm not on windows [03:39] Yanick_: qt octave at front end to octave, a program similar to matlab. it runs in kubuntu [03:40] I need to plot a function like so : x_{k}=x_{0}+k*h where k is the iterator and h the delta, and y_{k+1}=y_{k}+h*f(x_{k},y_{k}) where y_{x_{0}} = 1 [03:40] Yanick_: susbwoy made the suggestion of koctave which I looked up and noticed its last update was 2006. I know qtoctave is being actively maintained [03:40] I installed 4 plotting applications so far, and all have failed to produce that [03:41] the reason being that I have absolutely no control over the iterator variable [03:41] Yanick_: well, I am not a maths expert but www.pythonxy.com might offer some more options [03:42] cmoman4, that's the point, I'm not a math expert too [03:42] did gnuplot fail too? [03:43] mermshaus, gnuplot is also a terminal application, I just don't know what to do with it [03:43] tutorials (good, and easy) are rare, if not absent from the web. Most information I find don't help at all [03:44] Yanick_: Do you have the ability to install software on your machine and are your running kubuntu? [03:44] yes [03:44] yeah, it's difficult to get started with such applications. it kind of sucks. [03:45] sudo apt-get install qtoctave will install qtoctave for you, from there you'll have to start reading up the help documentation. [03:45] qtoctave is all gui based so should give you a little more idea of what is going on [03:45] cmoman4, I'll take a look [03:46] hi there - question - I deinstalled pulseaudio but still it shows up everywhere in asoundconf in Multimedia (phonon) - How do I make it disapear? [03:46] you'll ultimately have to figure you out how to script your maths to suit gtoctave though [03:47] cmoman4, well, it looks like the most complete app i've seen so far (there a variable list, at least) [03:49] Yanick_: figured that might help, another good option is matlibplot which is mathematic plotting library for python [03:49] Yanick_: http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/ [03:50] cmoman4, yeah, I've seen that.. but I still don't know how to write x_{k}... [03:52] Yanick_: yeah , not always easy figuring out how to code maths into scripting languages, good fun when you start making progress though [03:54] i just read that octave uses gnuplot btw [03:54] trivia fact of the fay. ;) [03:55] *day [03:56] mermshaus: the good old *nix way of chaining tools together [03:57] I still don't know how to write my recursive function :/ [03:57] cmoman4: or the tradition of coding a gui for something nobody knows how to use :o) [03:58] mermshaus: :) === hillshum is now known as Hillshum [03:58] Yanick_: sorry, can be more helpful [03:58] Yanick_: can't be more helpful [04:05] hey does someone know the sudo thing to install gyach enchanced? [04:06] i cant find it... === mike is now known as Guest31765 [04:06] or a way i can get my jasper plugin for kopete? [04:08] can someone help me please? [04:09] Guest31765: you need to go here https://launchpad.net/~loell/+archive/ppa [04:09] hello :) [04:09] its not in the repos. [04:09] crap [04:09] how do i do it [04:09] can you tell me how [04:10] or know video? [04:10] i have these random lines that appear on my screen every now and then while using Kubuntu... what is it? [04:10] alisha: what kind of vid card? [04:10] umm i dont know how do i find that out [04:11] alisha: at a terminal: `dmesg | grep -i video`. just need to know if it's ATI, NVidia, or Intel :) [04:11] Guest31765: in my ever so humble opinion, if you are doing it for voice chat, you might be disapointed. [04:11] no [04:11] cam [04:11] i use to have it [04:11] yet [04:11] okay hold on [04:11] i lost it [04:12] Guest31765: Oh! right jasper. Hold on I know the package you need . . . [04:12] [ 12.428434] Boot video device is 0000:01:00.0 thats what it tells me [04:13] Guest31765: apt-get install libjasper-runtime [04:13] Guest31765: sudo of course [04:13] i messaged you kingjere [04:13] look there [04:13] okay when you tell me this stuff you have to talk to me like im stupid... i am new to kubuntu and linux so i dont know this stuff [04:14] alisha: kay, we'll do graphical :) [04:14] me too [04:14] haha thank you! [04:14] alisha: k menu > computer > system settings [04:15] k now what [04:16] alright im in system settings [04:17] alisha: sorry, i'm at work lol [04:18] alisha: tap display, should say there, iirc [04:18] i dont see iirc [04:19] my graphics card is SiS Real256E [04:19] alisha: lol, my apologies. "iirc" means 'if i remember correctly' :) [04:19] alisha: is this an older computer? [04:20] alisha: what distrobution of kubuntu are you running? [04:21] alisha: i know there's some issues with the intel graphics cards (i run one myself on my netbook), and enabling a different vid mode for xorg to use fixed it [04:21] well i think its about 4 years old and hmm [04:21] im not sure what version im running its not the newest its is a slightly older version [04:22] alisha: 8.10? 8.04? older? [04:22] !version | alisha [04:22] alisha: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy » [04:22] how do i find out the version [04:23] !version [04:23] i dont know [04:23] lol [04:23] alisha: ubottu is our local friendly knowledge repository bot :) go to a terminal, and type in that 'lsb...' command [04:24] im running Kububtu 8.04 Hardy [04:25] alisha: i'm hesitant to recommend upgrading, as i don't know your hardware [04:26] go ahead and recommend one and if it screws me up ill just reinstall... i have like 20 discs i dont mind [04:26] alisha: lol [04:26] !upgrade | alisha [04:26] alisha: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - To upgrade to Jaunty (9.04) directly from Hardy (8.04) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04 - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [04:28] i dont really wanna upgrade the version... i just want to know how to fix the lines unless upgrading to Jaunty will fix that [04:29] alisha: i have no knowledge of what might be causing display lines on an 8.04 install with a SiS graphics card. I can't relly search from here for ya (i'm at work, on a tiny netbook) unfortunatly :( [04:30] thats ok ill just upgrade to jaunty and see if that works for me... if not ill probably go back to ubuntu... i jsut like the K desktop better [04:32] alisha: kubuntu is ubuntu :) [04:33] i know just with different desktops systems but ubuntu didnt have these dang lines [04:33] alisha: you can install both desktop environments on either system. the package name is either kubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-desktop :) [04:33] alisha: only suggestion of something to try would be to use the gdm manager with kde [04:34] yea i dont know what that is [04:35] alisha: do you notice the lines on the login screen itself, or only once you're logged in and on the desktop? [04:36] just after i login [04:36] alisha: ohhhhh... this might be an easy fix. let me check something real quick. do you already have the ubuntu desktop and kubuntu desktop setup on this machine? [04:37] no its not dual boot i just have kubuntu === ady is now known as skyman [04:38] alisha: `sudo aptitude install gdm` at a prompt. [04:39] alisha: what you'll do is run the gnome display manager, but with the kde desktop and such [04:39] E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) [04:39] E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? [04:39] Reading package lists... Done [04:39] Building dependency tree [04:39] Reading state information... Done [04:39] Initializing package states... Done [04:39] Building tag database... Done [04:39] E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) [04:39] E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? [04:39] thats what it tells me [04:41] alisha: you've got another package manager (an upgrade? some program open on the desktop to install programs?) running. [04:44] finally, a boring day at work is over. take care :) [04:46] oh its upgrading [05:05] hello [05:05] ? [05:05] anybody in here> [05:06] !ask | Zanderfly [05:06] Zanderfly: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [05:07] Trying to install Sid Mier's Pirates, But Wine isn't working. either freezes or fails to install [05:08] how do i install game using wine? tried terminal and from disk [05:08] type in: [05:08] cd .wine [05:08] wine dosdevices/d\:/setup.exe [05:09] no luck [05:10] Anybody got some advice to help me out? [05:12] where can i get some help on figuring this stuff out? [05:14] hello [05:15] list [05:16] help [05:16] hmm question, how do I restart the composite manager under KDE4 if it crashed earlier? [05:16] alt-shift-F12 [05:17] hmm nice. :) [05:18] What does that do anyway? I imagine it relating to some hotkeyed applicatio? [05:18] hello === nannette is now known as jackCat [05:22] hello [05:24] does anyone know a program that i can use that allows me to use a cam for a yahoo like thing [05:24] ??? [05:25] hi, my touchpad won't work at all except for the left and right click?how to make it works (a compal mechine) === Capab is now known as Carrlos [05:26] need help with blogspot and firefox [05:27] time to go back to 8.04?? [05:29] boy what a hot day today [05:29] whats it like where you are at [05:41] My netbook will see APs and connect, yet it won't actually be online. I have done this at home and I have done it at work. Both used to let me connect, but now it's just dead after the AP. [05:42] I use the correct password for the AP, but it does nothing more than actually let me 'connect' to the AP and nothing further. === root is now known as Guest94940 [05:47] If anyone here has a netbook with issues connecting to wifi spots, let me know if you've found some type of solution. [05:53] draik: chances are it's a problem specific to your wireless adapter and not the so-called "netbook" class of PCs [05:55] hmm, does anyone know how to get network manager to import a pcf file (for vpn) under jaunty? [06:01] hmm, why is my plasma always taking 100% cpu??? [06:01] That doesn't seem right. [06:04] hubar_: I had the same issue. An upgrade came around and it fixed it all for me. [06:04] p_quarles: What do you think would suddenly cause it? [06:05] draik: you *had* the same issue? which kubuntu (version) do you have it with? [06:06] I am running jaunty, and I am pretty sure this is the latest... (after upgrade and upgrade) [06:09] hubar_: I was on Jaunty, 9.04. An upgrade came along and it was suddenly fixed. [06:09] Kernel upgrade, I mean [06:10] hmm. which kernel you have? [06:11] I have 2.6.28-11 [06:11] 2.6.28-12 [06:11] hmm? [06:12] how did you get to 12? :) [06:12] Upgrade [06:14] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor [06:15] hmm, are you using some strange repository? [06:15] Nope. I do, however, have them all enabled. [06:16] hmm? what do you mean"all enabled"? [06:17] I removed the hash in front of the commented repository entries. [06:18] you mean the file /etc/apt/sources.list? [06:19] when i am restarting my destop baground picture changes to blue screen [06:19] hubar_: Yes [06:19] what to do for not changing ? [06:20] hmm... I am looking at sources.list right now, and for some reason, they are all enabled too.err. [06:22] hmm, I didn't enable the backports repository. [06:22] I have it all enabled. It's just a preference, nothing more. [06:27] prasanth: When you restart your computer or when you restart your background (which I assume you mean refresh). === yaa_ is now known as anonimous_ [06:39] Is there a way to make a text editor shorten the length of .txt files? I have a wide screen monitor but this is ridiculous amounts of scrolling [06:39] I am currently using kate [06:40] ord wrap [06:40] *word wrap [06:41] draik, cool thanks [06:41] :) === mike is now known as PROject-Emerald [06:45] depmod -a what does this command do [06:46] anonimous_: depmod --help [06:50] I'm off to bed. Have a great day/noon/evening everyone. [06:54] bye [06:54] hui [06:58] which way i can see all the kernel modules in kernel [07:00] all modules currently loaded, or just all available? [07:00] currently loaded [07:00] lsmod [07:00] what is modeprobe -a [07:01] ? [07:01] Insert all module names on the command line. [07:01] see "man modprobe" [07:02] i m non-english speaking %) [07:02] man is not understandable ^( [07:02] :( [07:05] anonimous_, what language do you speak [07:06] do not send me to another channel .i am banned there %) [07:06] chukchas [07:07] i do speak chukcha [07:07] and english a little bit [07:11] anonimous_: man is the command for a help page, so 'man modprobe' will show you the help page for modprobe [07:15] Hey, all. Anyone that can help with a USB moust problem? [07:16] werekat google is good for stuff like that [07:18] Been there for a few hours. Maybe you can point me to the right FAQ. [07:18] Mamarok: i know it [07:19] If you are willing to read about the problem in detail, of course. [07:19] anybody know of a tool to combine files (merge data where large chunks of 0's are) [07:20] anonimous_: why did you say "man is not understandable" then? [07:20] Werekat: which Kubuntu version? [07:20] Mamarok: tell me if i can add variables in squid conf [07:21] Mamarok: because my english is not well enough [07:21] !squid [07:21] squid is a caching proxy for the Web. See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SquidGuard See: http://www.squid-cache.org [07:21] :) [07:21] check that, anonimous_ [07:21] 8.1 [07:22] !mamarok does not hear me [07:22] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [07:22] ^) [07:22] Werekat: with KDE 4.1.3 I suppose then... [07:22] thanx a lot [07:22] anonimous_: yaw :) [07:23] 4.1.4 It looks like it started after the update. [07:23] Werekat: you need to add the 'device notifier widget' to the panel [07:23] It's there. [07:23] and what are the problems then? [07:25] Werekat: what are the prblems then? [07:25] Basically, the mouse freezes randomly. Xorg.0.log and so on says it can't find the device, and thus closes the settings for it in hal. Then it finds it again, just as randomly. The mouse works on other computers fine, other USB devices (except mice - I've tested 2) work fine. [07:25] so it's an usb mouse you talk about, right? [07:25] Yes. [07:26] that should be automounted anyway, as it's not a storing device [07:27] Werekat: a cordless mouse? [07:28] No. [07:29] from what you describe I think the usb port has a connection problem, did you try on another usb entry? [07:29] *nods* On both of them available, and other USB devices on them mount fine. [07:29] Looking at the logs, even when everything's "ok" for a while, it finds and mounts the mouse multiple times. If it weren't for the fact that the other devices work OK, I'd say the same. [07:30] Werekat: what exac mouse is it?, Brand, model number? Google could give you some advide maybe [07:30] Genius model GM-030003 NetScroll + MiniTraveller. Basically, a very generic mouse. [07:31] if it happens only with this mouse, then the mouse is probably the culprit I would say [07:31] Yesterday another mouse did not work, either. I haven't tested as of today. [07:32] Gah. It looks like it is the USB port. Because if I plug in another anything alongside the dead mouse - just tried a second one to test, and then a flash card - it starts working. [07:33] Sorry for the bother. :( [07:33] Werekat: can you open and check the connectors eventually? sometimes just a cable think [07:34] I still suspect the mouse, as it has the same behaviour on the other port, didn't you say that before? [07:35] Yes, it does. Both the ports might be loose, though. [07:36] Hallo [07:36] hm, check the connectors then [07:36] hi Herr_W_aus_A [07:36] Opening and checking the connectors - you mean the USB ports, or opening the mouse itself? English isn't my first language either, and especially not tech English. :( [07:37] Werekat: opening the PC and check the USB ports, yes [07:38] Might be a bit difficult to get into a laptop. But I'll try. Thanks. :) [07:39] Werekat: hm, yes, but the handbook tells you what you can access [07:39] *nods* Exactly. :) So, signing off. Hopefully, to be back in a while. [07:47] any one know the sudo code to get skype? [07:47] Guest31765: what do you mean, sudo code? [07:48] where to download Skype from you mean? [07:48] by sudo apt-get install [07:48] that stuff [07:48] !Skype [07:48] To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga [07:48] Guest31765: check these help pages [07:49] what is a repository [07:51] Guest31765: that is where the packages are stored [07:52] well i gotta go [07:52] thanks for the info [07:52] yaw :) [07:58] Mamarok: thanks, that seems to have been the problem. :) [08:01] Werekat: oh, great! [08:02] Werekat: it's not uncommon on laptops btw, as those are carried around quite a bit [08:03] *laughs* I didn't really get the chance to carry this one around much yet. But now I'll know what to look for. :) [08:03] oh, a new one? [08:04] that's sad, what brand? [08:04] Yeah. Only two weeks or so in operation, and most of that at home. Asus F9. [08:04] ouch [08:05] Asus usually is building well, surprising [08:05] drop them a note, so they check their manufacturing process for POF [08:06] *nods* I will. Is that better to do through the local representation, or maybe through their website? [08:08] Werekat: no idea, check if there's something on the website [08:09] Looking it up already. Just thought maybe you'd had some experience with their support. :) Anyway, time to go actually get work done - thanks again! [08:10] never had an Asus, just know the reputation of their builds [08:54] Hello! [08:55] My name is Dmitry [08:55] hi === hemathor is now known as hemathor_ === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === drog is now known as Guest39439 === Guest39439 is now known as dROg [09:28] hello === Peace-konversati is now known as Peace- [10:08] hi, how do I install the packages recommended by kubuntu-desktop automatically. I had to remove a couple in the past. [10:12] reinstall kubuntu-desktop amgarching [10:12] If I install mononono, will this much (if anything) on Kubuntu 9.04 ? [10:12] !info mononono [10:12] Package mononono does not exist in jaunty [10:12] what is mononono Eruaran [10:14] bazhang: mononono introduces an internal conflict with mono packages, to they will be uninstalled... and if updates or other packages in the future try to install mono, it will warn me of breaking mononono [10:14] Eruaran, installed from where [10:15] bazhang: well I assumed it would be in the repo's but if it isn't then from here: http://tim.thechases.com/mononono/ [10:15] Eruaran, jaunty? [10:15] yes [10:15] its not in the repos [10:19] slm [10:23] hi there - question - I deinstalled pulseaudio but still it shows up everywhere in asoundconf in Multimedia (phonon) - How do I make it disapear? [10:47] hello all [10:48] wathek: I deinstalled pulseaudio but still it shows up everywhere in asoundconf in Multimedia (phonon) - How do I make it disapear? [10:49] I got a problem I cannot navigate on the net it's strange coz I can I can connect to amsn and to xchat and I can ping the external network [10:49] but I cannot navigate [10:49] I can connect to ftp too [10:49] but no http [10:50] !weekend [10:50] wathek: review your proxy configuration [10:50] It's a weekend. Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week. [10:50] BooVeMan, have no proxy [10:50] BooVeMan, I can connect to https too [10:50] can you telnet to google on port 80 ? [10:51] BooVeMan, let me try [10:51] Trying 74.125.43.99... Connected to www.l.google.com. [10:51] that's what it says [10:52]