[00:04] <kubuntu_beginner> hey
[00:05] <kubuntu_beginner> im trying to make a kubuntu install to my external without doing wubi
[00:05] <kubuntu_beginner> any ideas?
[00:11] <kubuntu_beginner> does anyone know how to install directly to my external without bothering the internal?
[00:20] <xp-killer> WHAT DO I HAVE TO INSTALL TO RUN COMPIZ??
[00:21] <xp-killer> #compiz
[00:23] <jussi01> xp-killer: first tell me why you want compiz over kwin? they are pretty close to equal now...
[00:23] <Eurysilas> Has anybody here that uses Hardy been able to encode mp3 files? I've tried 3 different solutions, all with some problem.
[00:23] <jussi01> !mp3
[00:24] <xp-killer> jussi01: i no noting of kiwn 1st time ive herd of it.and i just need comppis for the easy zoom nothing else
[00:24] <xp-killer> compiz
[00:24] <jussi01> xp-killer: which version are you on?
[00:25] <xp-killer> 8.10
[00:25] <jussi01> hrm I dont remember 8.10 that well...
[00:25] <xp-killer> kde
[00:25] <jussi01> and now Im going to bed.
[00:26] <JontheEchidna> kde in 8.10 should have a zoom effect
[00:26] <jussi01>  but have a look at system settings desktop
[00:26] <jussi01> thanks JontheEchidna :)
[00:26] <JontheEchidna> System Settings -> Desktop -> Effects
[00:26] <JuJuBee> I just re-arranged my partitions and /home moved from /dev/sdb7 to /dev/sdb6 as a result.  Thins seem ok except my panel customization are gone.
[00:26] <JuJuBee> All of my apps I added to the panel are missing from panel.
[00:27] <Eurysilas> Actually, jussi01, my problem is that ffmpeg seems to not be able to encode MP3 even WITH the appropriate stuff. It does have the "--enable-gpl compiler flag, though, which makes me think it wasn't compiled with MP3 support.
[00:28] <xp-killer> JontheEchidna:  i dont seee effects
[00:29] <JontheEchidna> it should be the first module in the Desktop config part of systemsettings
[00:30] <Eurysilas> Let's see....I tried Sound Converter, too....It can't seem to find "decoderbin", some problem with GStreamer, evidently, and lame just plain doesn't seem to be able to handle OGG files, .ogg or .oga.
[00:30] <xp-killer> JontheEchidna: nope
[00:32] <Eurysilas> So, does anybody know how I'm supposed to be able to encode MP3? I think I've exhausted the main options.
[00:35] <wangyuan> Hi!!
[00:36] <wangyuan> anybody here?
[00:42] <ubuntu> <
[00:49] <b0nn> hmm, Im having a bit of trouble with a tvout card, and not sure how to troubleshoot it.  When the computer boots, POST is sent to the tv, and the kubuntu splash screen, but once boot is complate I get a black screen and Xorg is chewing up 93% cpu
[00:58] <carolija> Hello ya all
[00:58] <carolija> I have volume ext3 and that is other HDD but I want to all space be in /home/
[00:59] <carolija> I have to Unmount it or .. ?
[00:59] <carolija> like this is confusing little space here little there ...
[00:59] <carolija> I more like to be all in one
[01:00] <carolija> any idea or suggestions ?
[01:12] <xp-killer> how do i run compiz without going in the terminal or the run comand to type it?
[01:13] <xp-killer> #ubuntu
[02:03] <coz_> what is terminal command to open system settings?
[02:03] <Dragnslcr> systemsettings
[02:04] <coz_> Dragnslcr,  thanks just figured it out as you typed :)
[02:15] <cmoman4> is there a KDE gui for altering what services run a different run levels
[02:15] <cmoman4> the  GTK equivalent seems to be BUM
[02:19] <susbwoy> cmoman4: you can install chkconfig
[02:21] <susbwoy> cmoman4: does the job relatively good/easy but its console
[02:23] <cmoman4> susbwoy:   okay, had just installed it and seeing if does what a want, older versions of KDE (3?) had a gui and I haven't been able to find the equivalent so far
[02:26] <solid_liq> !ping
[02:36] <Yanick_> hi, anyone know of a good plotting program to plot recursive functions?
[02:37] <gpf> salve
[02:38] <susbwoy> Yanick_: koctave?
[02:39] <susbwoy> Yanick_: http://sourceforge.net/projects/koctave/
[02:42] <Yanick_> susbwoy, I am currently trying Labplot, looks nice (with TeX support), does koctave have that too?
[02:45] <susbwoy> Yanick_: yeah latex is everywhere, also look at scilab
[02:47] <Yanick_> thanx
[02:48] <Yanick_> susbwoy, man.... I don't know how to work with those shell math programs
[03:06] <mandingoceo> i have 710 installed and i have to keep that version but i need to upgrade the kernel as so my nforce 730i mobo chipsets are detected what kernel do i need to go to and what is the simplest wayto do it, im still a noob
[03:06] <zapper_1> Hello?
[03:06] <zapper_1> Hey! I'm here! :d
[03:07] <zapper_1> I'm still a noob too.
[03:07] <zapper_1> How do I get to other servers?
[03:07] <cjae_> how do I get speed crunch in normal mode
[03:07] <zapper_1> Don't all answer at once!
[03:09] <mandingoceo> i have 710 installed and i have to keep that version but i need to upgrade the kernel as so my nforce 730i mobo chipsets are detected what kernel do i need to go to and what is the simplest wayto do it, im still a noob
[03:11] <bazhang> !upgrade | mandingoceo
[03:11] <Dragnslcr> mandingoceo- support for 7.10 ended a couple months ago, so there won't be any new kernel packages for it. You can compile a newer kernel for it, but it usually isn't that simple
[03:11] <bazhang> mandingoceo, that version is end of life, you will need to upgrade the entire version not just the kernel, as 7.10 is unsupported now
[03:13] <mandingoceo> yeh i know but i have to keep that version, i did compile 2.6.27.14 but my nvidia based chipset mobo wasnt recognized so i was thinking i left something out when selecting what to configure
[03:13] <mandingoceo> when compiling, i didnt see anything that said nvidia so not sure what i missed
[03:14] <bazhang> 7.10 is supported no longer
[03:16] <mandingoceo> just need to know what do i need to add when compiling a kernel for nvidia based mobo
[03:25] <cmoman4> Yanick_: Is qtoctave suitable?
[03:29] <cmoman4> Yanick_: http://qtoctave.wordpress.com/
[03:37] <Yanick_> cmoman4, I don't know how that works
[03:37] <Yanick_> cmoman4, the koctave I installed is a terminal :/
[03:38] <Yanick_> cmoman4, I'm not on windows
[03:39] <cmoman4> Yanick_: qt octave at front end to octave, a program similar to matlab. it runs in kubuntu
[03:40] <Yanick_> I need to plot a function like so : x_{k}=x_{0}+k*h  where k is the iterator and h the delta, and y_{k+1}=y_{k}+h*f(x_{k},y_{k}) where y_{x_{0}} = 1
[03:40] <cmoman4> Yanick_: susbwoy made the suggestion of koctave which I looked up and noticed its last update was 2006.  I know qtoctave is being actively maintained
[03:40] <Yanick_> I installed 4 plotting applications so far, and all have failed to produce that
[03:41] <Yanick_> the reason being that I have absolutely no control over the iterator variable
[03:41] <cmoman4> Yanick_: well, I am not a maths expert but www.pythonxy.com might offer some more options
[03:42] <Yanick_> cmoman4, that's the point, I'm not a math expert too
[03:42] <mermshaus> did gnuplot fail too?
[03:43] <Yanick_> mermshaus, gnuplot is also a terminal application, I just don't know what to do with it
[03:43] <Yanick_> tutorials (good, and easy) are rare, if not absent from the web. Most information I find don't help at all
[03:44] <cmoman4> Yanick_: Do you have the ability to install software on your machine and are your running kubuntu?
[03:44] <Yanick_> yes
[03:44] <mermshaus> yeah, it's difficult to get started with such applications. it kind of sucks.
[03:45] <cmoman4> sudo apt-get install qtoctave  will install qtoctave for you, from there you'll have to start reading up the help documentation.
[03:45] <cmoman4> qtoctave  is all gui based so should give you a little more idea of what is going on
[03:45] <Yanick_> cmoman4, I'll take a look
[03:46] <BooVeMan> hi there - question - I deinstalled pulseaudio but still it shows up everywhere in asoundconf in Multimedia (phonon) - How do I make it disapear?
[03:46] <cmoman4> you'll ultimately have to figure you out how to script your maths to suit gtoctave though
[03:47] <Yanick_> cmoman4, well, it looks like the most complete app i've seen so far (there a variable list, at least)
[03:49] <cmoman4> Yanick_: figured that might help, another good option is matlibplot which is mathematic plotting library for python
[03:49] <cmoman4> Yanick_: http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/
[03:50] <Yanick_> cmoman4, yeah, I've seen that.. but I still don't know how to write x_{k}...
[03:52] <cmoman4> Yanick_: yeah , not always easy figuring out how to code maths into scripting languages, good fun  when  you start making progress though
[03:54] <mermshaus> i just read that octave uses gnuplot btw
[03:54] <mermshaus> trivia fact of the fay. ;)
[03:55] <mermshaus> *day
[03:56] <cmoman4> mermshaus: the good old *nix way of chaining tools together
[03:57] <Yanick_> I still don't know how to write my recursive function :/
[03:57] <mermshaus> cmoman4: or the tradition of coding a gui for something nobody knows how to use :o)
[03:58] <cmoman4> mermshaus: :)
[03:58] <cmoman4> Yanick_: sorry, can be more helpful
[03:58] <cmoman4> Yanick_: can't be more helpful
[04:05] <mike> hey does someone know the sudo thing to install gyach enchanced?
[04:06] <mike> i cant find it...
[04:06] <Guest31765> or a way i can get my jasper plugin for kopete?
[04:08] <Guest31765> can someone help me please?
[04:09] <kingjere> Guest31765: you need to go here https://launchpad.net/~loell/+archive/ppa
[04:09] <SilentDis> hello :)
[04:09] <kingjere> its not in the repos.
[04:09] <Guest31765> crap
[04:09] <Guest31765> how do i do it
[04:09] <Guest31765> can you tell me how
[04:10] <Guest31765> or know  video?
[04:10] <alisha> i have these random lines that appear on my screen every now and then while using Kubuntu... what is it?
[04:10] <SilentDis> alisha: what kind of vid card?
[04:10] <alisha> umm i dont know how do i find that out
[04:11] <SilentDis> alisha: at a terminal:  `dmesg | grep -i video`.  just need to know if it's ATI, NVidia, or Intel :)
[04:11] <kingjere> Guest31765: in my ever so humble opinion, if you are doing it for voice chat, you might be disapointed.
[04:11] <Guest31765> no
[04:11] <Guest31765> cam
[04:11] <Guest31765> i use to have it
[04:11] <Guest31765> yet
[04:11] <alisha> okay hold on
[04:11] <Guest31765> i lost it
[04:12] <kingjere> Guest31765: Oh! right jasper. Hold on I know the package you need . . .
[04:12] <alisha> [   12.428434] Boot video device is 0000:01:00.0 thats what it tells me
[04:13] <kingjere> Guest31765: apt-get install libjasper-runtime
[04:13] <kingjere> Guest31765: sudo of course
[04:13] <Guest31765> i messaged you kingjere
[04:13] <Guest31765> look there
[04:13] <alisha> okay when you tell me this stuff you have to talk to me like im stupid... i am new to kubuntu and linux so i dont know this stuff
[04:14] <SilentDis> alisha: kay, we'll do graphical :)
[04:14] <Guest31765> me too
[04:14] <alisha> haha thank you!
[04:14] <SilentDis> alisha: k menu > computer > system settings
[04:15] <alisha> k now what
[04:16] <alisha> alright im in system settings
[04:17] <SilentDis> alisha: sorry, i'm at work lol
[04:18] <SilentDis> alisha: tap display, should say there, iirc
[04:18] <alisha> i dont see iirc
[04:19] <alisha> my graphics card is SiS Real256E
[04:19] <SilentDis> alisha: lol, my apologies.  "iirc" means 'if i remember correctly' :)
[04:19] <SilentDis> alisha: is this an older computer?
[04:20] <SilentDis> alisha: what distrobution of kubuntu are you running?
[04:21] <SilentDis> alisha: i know there's some issues with the intel graphics cards (i run one myself on my netbook), and enabling a different vid mode for xorg to use fixed it
[04:21] <alisha> well i think its about 4 years old and hmm
[04:21] <alisha> im not sure what version im running its not the newest its is a slightly older version
[04:22] <SilentDis> alisha: 8.10?  8.04?  older?
[04:22] <SilentDis> !version | alisha
[04:22] <alisha> how do i find out the version
[04:23] <alisha> !version
[04:23] <alisha> i dont know
[04:23] <alisha> lol
[04:23] <SilentDis> alisha: ubottu is our local friendly knowledge repository bot :)  go to a terminal, and type in that 'lsb...' command
[04:24] <alisha> im running Kububtu 8.04 Hardy
[04:25] <SilentDis> alisha: i'm hesitant to recommend upgrading, as i don't know your hardware
[04:26] <alisha> go ahead and recommend one and if it screws me up ill just reinstall... i have like 20 discs i dont mind
[04:26] <SilentDis> alisha: lol
[04:26] <SilentDis> !upgrade | alisha
[04:28] <alisha> i dont really wanna upgrade the version... i just want to know how to fix the lines unless upgrading to Jaunty will fix that
[04:29] <SilentDis> alisha: i have no knowledge of what might be causing display lines on an 8.04 install with a SiS graphics card.  I can't relly search from here for ya (i'm at work, on a tiny netbook) unfortunatly :(
[04:30] <alisha> thats ok ill just upgrade to jaunty and see if that works for me... if not ill probably go back to ubuntu... i jsut like the K desktop better
[04:32] <SilentDis> alisha: kubuntu is ubuntu :)
[04:33] <alisha> i know just with different desktops systems but ubuntu didnt have these dang lines
[04:33] <SilentDis> alisha: you can install both desktop environments on either system.  the package name is either kubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-desktop :)
[04:33] <SilentDis> alisha: only suggestion of something to try would be to use the gdm manager with kde
[04:34] <alisha> yea i dont know what that is
[04:35] <SilentDis> alisha: do you notice the lines on the login screen itself, or only once you're logged in and on the desktop?
[04:36] <alisha> just after i login
[04:36] <SilentDis> alisha: ohhhhh... this might be an easy fix.  let me check something real quick.  do you already have the ubuntu desktop and kubuntu desktop setup on this machine?
[04:37] <alisha> no its not dual boot i just have kubuntu
[04:38] <SilentDis> alisha: `sudo aptitude install gdm` at a prompt.
[04:39] <SilentDis> alisha: what you'll do is run the gnome display manager, but with the kde desktop and such
[04:39] <alisha> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:39] <alisha> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:39] <alisha> Reading package lists... Done
[04:39] <alisha> Building dependency tree
[04:39] <alisha> Reading state information... Done
[04:39] <alisha> Initializing package states... Done
[04:39] <alisha> Building tag database... Done
[04:39] <alisha> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:39] <alisha> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:39] <alisha> thats what it tells me
[04:41] <SilentDis> alisha: you've got another package manager (an upgrade?  some program open on the desktop to install programs?) running.
[04:44] <SilentDis> finally, a boring day at work is over.  take care :)
[04:46] <alisha> oh its upgrading
[05:05] <Zanderfly> hello
[05:05] <Zanderfly> ?
[05:05] <Zanderfly> anybody in here>
[05:06] <p_quarles> !ask | Zanderfly
[05:07] <Zanderfly> Trying to install Sid Mier's Pirates, But Wine isn't working.  either freezes or fails to install
[05:08] <Zanderfly> how do i install game using wine?  tried terminal and from disk
[05:08] <Zanderfly> type in:
[05:08] <Zanderfly> cd .wine
[05:08] <Zanderfly> wine dosdevices/d\:/setup.exe
[05:09] <Zanderfly> no luck
[05:10] <Zanderfly> Anybody got some advice to help me out?
[05:12] <Zanderfly> where can i get some help on figuring this stuff out?
[05:14] <Zanderfly> hello
[05:15] <kubuntu_smolkov> list
[05:16] <kubuntu_smolkov> help
[05:16] <hubar_> hmm question, how do I restart the composite manager under KDE4 if it crashed earlier?
[05:16] <p_quarles> alt-shift-F12
[05:17] <hubar_> hmm nice. :)
[05:18] <hubar_> What does that do anyway? I imagine it relating to some hotkeyed applicatio?
[05:18] <trans> hello
[05:22] <jackCat> hello
[05:24] <Guest31765> does anyone know a program that i can use that allows me to use a cam for a yahoo like thing
[05:24] <Guest31765> ???
[05:25] <byonix> hi, my touchpad won't work at all except for the left and right click?how to make it works (a compal mechine)
[05:26] <jackCat> need help with blogspot and firefox
[05:27] <jackCat> time to go back to 8.04??
[05:29] <jackCat> boy what a hot day today
[05:29] <jackCat> whats it like where you are at
[05:41] <draik> My netbook will see APs and connect, yet it won't actually be online. I have done this at home and I have done it at work. Both used to let me connect, but now it's just dead after the AP.
[05:42] <draik> I use the correct password for the AP, but it does nothing more than actually let me 'connect' to the AP and nothing further.
[05:47] <draik> If anyone here has a netbook with issues connecting to wifi spots, let me know if you've found some type of solution.
[05:53] <p_quarles> draik: chances are it's a problem specific to your wireless adapter and not the so-called "netbook" class of PCs
[05:55] <hubar_>  hmm, does anyone know how to get network manager to import a pcf file (for vpn) under jaunty?
[06:01] <hubar_> hmm, why is my plasma always taking 100% cpu???
[06:01] <hubar_> That doesn't seem right.
[06:04] <draik> hubar_: I had the same issue. An upgrade came around and it fixed it all for me.
[06:04] <draik> p_quarles: What do you think would suddenly cause it?
[06:05] <hubar_> draik: you *had* the same issue? which kubuntu (version) do you have it with?
[06:06] <hubar_> I am running jaunty, and I am pretty sure this is the latest... (after upgrade and upgrade)
[06:09] <draik> hubar_: I was on Jaunty, 9.04. An upgrade came along and it was suddenly fixed.
[06:09] <draik> Kernel upgrade, I mean
[06:10] <hubar_> hmm. which kernel you have?
[06:11] <hubar_> I have 2.6.28-11
[06:11] <draik> 2.6.28-12
[06:11] <hubar_> hmm?
[06:12] <hubar_> how did you get to 12? :)
[06:12] <draik> Upgrade
[06:14] <draik> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:15] <hubar_> hmm, are you using some strange repository?
[06:15] <draik> Nope. I do, however, have them all enabled.
[06:16] <hubar_> hmm? what do you mean"all enabled"?
[06:17] <draik> I removed the hash in front of the commented repository entries.
[06:18] <hubar_> you mean the file /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:19] <prasanth> when i am restarting my destop baground picture changes to blue screen
[06:19] <draik> hubar_: Yes
[06:19] <prasanth> what to do for not changing ?
[06:20] <hubar_> hmm... I am looking at sources.list right now, and for some reason, they are all enabled too.err.
[06:22] <hubar_> hmm, I didn't enable the backports repository.
[06:22] <draik> I have it all enabled. It's just a preference, nothing more.
[06:27] <draik> prasanth: When you restart your computer or when you restart your background (which I assume you mean refresh).
[06:39] <cjae_> Is there a way to make a text editor shorten the length of .txt files? I have a wide screen monitor but this is ridiculous amounts of scrolling
[06:39] <cjae_> I am currently using kate
[06:40] <draik> ord wrap
[06:40] <draik> *word wrap
[06:41] <cjae_> draik, cool thanks
[06:41] <draik> :)
[06:45] <anonimous_> depmod -a what does this command do
[06:46] <draik> anonimous_: depmod --help
[06:50] <draik> I'm off to bed. Have a great day/noon/evening everyone.
[06:54] <anonimous_> bye
[06:54] <anonimous_> hui
[06:58] <anonimous_> which way i can see all the kernel modules in kernel
[07:00] <tsimpson> all modules currently loaded, or just all available?
[07:00] <anonimous_> currently loaded
[07:00] <tsimpson> lsmod
[07:00] <anonimous_> what is modeprobe -a
[07:01] <anonimous_> ?
[07:01] <tsimpson> Insert all module names on the command line.
[07:01] <tsimpson> see "man modprobe"
[07:02] <anonimous_> i m non-english speaking %)
[07:02] <anonimous_> man is not understandable ^(
[07:02] <anonimous_> :(
[07:05] <oobe> anonimous_, what language do you speak
[07:06] <anonimous_> do not send me to another channel .i am banned there %)
[07:06] <anonimous_> chukchas
[07:07] <anonimous_> i do speak chukcha
[07:07] <anonimous_> and english a little bit
[07:11] <Mamarok> anonimous_: man is the command for a help page, so 'man modprobe' will show you the help page for modprobe
[07:15] <Werekat> Hey, all. Anyone that can help with a USB moust problem?
[07:16] <oobe> werekat google is good for stuff like that
[07:18] <Werekat> Been there for a few hours. Maybe you can point me to the right FAQ.
[07:18] <anonimous_> Mamarok: i know it
[07:19] <Werekat> If you are willing to read about the problem in detail, of course.
[07:19] <Mastercactapus> anybody know of a tool to combine files (merge data where large chunks of 0's are)
[07:20] <Mamarok> anonimous_: why did you say "man is not understandable" then?
[07:20] <Mamarok> Werekat: which Kubuntu version?
[07:20] <anonimous_> Mamarok: tell me if i can add variables in squid conf
[07:21] <anonimous_> Mamarok: because my english is not well enough
[07:21] <Mamarok> !squid
[07:21] <anonimous_> :)
[07:21] <Mamarok> check that, anonimous_
[07:21] <Werekat> 8.1
[07:22] <anonimous_> !mamarok does not hear me
[07:22] <anonimous_> ^)
[07:22] <Mamarok> Werekat: with KDE 4.1.3 I suppose then...
[07:22] <anonimous_> thanx a lot
[07:22] <Mamarok> anonimous_: yaw :)
[07:23] <Werekat> 4.1.4 It looks like it started after the update.
[07:23] <Mamarok> Werekat: you need to add the 'device notifier widget' to the panel
[07:23] <Werekat> It's there.
[07:23] <Mamarok> and what are the problems then?
[07:25] <Mamarok> Werekat: what are the prblems then?
[07:25] <Werekat> Basically, the mouse freezes randomly. Xorg.0.log and so on says it can't find the device, and thus closes the settings for it in hal. Then it finds it again, just as randomly. The mouse works on other computers fine, other USB devices (except mice - I've tested 2) work fine.
[07:25] <Mamarok> so it's an usb mouse you talk about, right?
[07:25] <Werekat> Yes.
[07:26] <Mamarok> that should be automounted anyway, as it's not a storing device
[07:27] <Mamarok> Werekat: a cordless mouse?
[07:28] <Werekat> No.
[07:29] <Mamarok> from what you describe I think the usb port has a connection problem, did you try on another usb entry?
[07:29] <Werekat> *nods* On both of them available, and other USB devices on them mount fine.
[07:29] <Werekat> Looking at the logs, even when everything's "ok" for a while, it finds and mounts the mouse multiple times. If it weren't for the fact that the other devices work OK, I'd say the same.
[07:30] <Mamarok> Werekat: what exac mouse is it?,  Brand, model number? Google could give you some advide maybe
[07:30] <Werekat> Genius model GM-030003 NetScroll + MiniTraveller. Basically, a very generic mouse.
[07:31] <Mamarok> if it happens only with this mouse, then the mouse is probably the culprit I would say
[07:31] <Werekat> Yesterday another mouse did not work, either. I haven't tested as of today.
[07:32] <Werekat> Gah. It looks like it is the USB port. Because if I plug in another anything alongside the dead mouse - just tried a second one to test, and then a flash card - it starts working.
[07:33] <Werekat> Sorry for the bother. :(
[07:33] <Mamarok> Werekat: can you open and check the connectors eventually? sometimes just a cable think
[07:34] <Mamarok> I still suspect the mouse, as it has the same behaviour on the other port, didn't you say that before?
[07:35] <Werekat> Yes, it does. Both the ports might be loose, though.
[07:36] <Herr_W_aus_A> Hallo
[07:36] <Mamarok> hm, check the connectors then
[07:36] <Mamarok> hi Herr_W_aus_A
[07:36] <Werekat> Opening and checking the connectors - you mean the USB ports, or opening the mouse itself? English isn't my first language either, and especially not tech English. :(
[07:37] <Mamarok> Werekat: opening the PC and check the USB ports, yes
[07:38] <Werekat> Might be a bit difficult to get into a laptop. But I'll try. Thanks. :)
[07:39] <Mamarok> Werekat: hm, yes, but the handbook tells you what you can access
[07:39] <Werekat> *nods* Exactly. :) So, signing off. Hopefully, to be back in a while.
[07:47] <Guest31765> any one know the sudo code to get skype?
[07:47] <Mamarok> Guest31765: what do you mean, sudo code?
[07:48] <Mamarok> where to download Skype from you mean?
[07:48] <Guest31765> by sudo apt-get install
[07:48] <Guest31765> that stuff
[07:48] <Mamarok> !Skype
[07:48] <Mamarok> Guest31765: check these help pages
[07:49] <Guest31765> what is a repository
[07:51] <Mamarok> Guest31765: that is where the packages are stored
[07:52] <Guest31765> well i gotta go
[07:52] <Guest31765> thanks for the info
[07:52] <Mamarok> yaw :)
[07:58] <Werekat> Mamarok: thanks, that seems to have been the problem. :)
[08:01] <Mamarok> Werekat: oh, great!
[08:02] <Mamarok> Werekat: it's not uncommon on laptops btw, as those are carried around quite a bit
[08:03] <Werekat> *laughs* I didn't really get the chance to carry this one around much yet. But now I'll know what to look for. :)
[08:03] <Mamarok> oh, a new one?
[08:04] <Mamarok> that's sad, what brand?
[08:04] <Werekat> Yeah. Only two weeks or so in operation, and most of that at home. Asus F9.
[08:04] <Mamarok> ouch
[08:05] <Mamarok> Asus usually is building well, surprising
[08:05] <Mamarok> drop them a note, so they check their manufacturing process for POF
[08:06] <Werekat> *nods* I will. Is that better to do through the local representation, or maybe through their website?
[08:08] <Mamarok> Werekat: no idea, check if there's something on the website
[08:09] <Werekat> Looking it up already. Just thought maybe you'd had some experience with their support. :) Anyway, time to go actually get work done - thanks again!
[08:10] <Mamarok> never had an Asus, just know the reputation of their builds
[08:54] <muhin> Hello!
[08:55] <muhin> My name is Dmitry
[08:55] <bazhang> hi
[09:28] <beac> hello
[10:08] <amgarching> hi, how do I install the packages recommended by kubuntu-desktop automatically. I had to remove a couple in the past.
[10:12] <bazhang> reinstall kubuntu-desktop amgarching
[10:12] <Eruaran> If I install mononono, will this much (if anything) on Kubuntu 9.04 ?
[10:12] <bazhang> !info mononono
[10:12] <bazhang> what is mononono Eruaran
[10:14] <Eruaran> bazhang: mononono introduces an internal conflict with mono packages, to they will be uninstalled... and if updates or other packages in the future try to install mono, it will warn me of breaking mononono
[10:14] <bazhang> Eruaran, installed from where
[10:15] <Eruaran> bazhang: well I assumed it would be in the repo's but if it isn't then from here: http://tim.thechases.com/mononono/
[10:15] <bazhang> Eruaran, jaunty?
[10:15] <Eruaran> yes
[10:15] <bazhang> its not in the repos
[10:19] <kanberus> slm
[10:23] <BooVeMan> hi there - question - I deinstalled pulseaudio but still it shows up everywhere in asoundconf in Multimedia (phonon) - How do I make it disapear?
[10:47] <wathek> hello all
[10:48] <BooVeMan> wathek: I deinstalled pulseaudio but still it shows up everywhere in asoundconf in Multimedia (phonon) - How do I make it disapear?
[10:49] <wathek> I got a problem I cannot navigate on the net it's strange coz I can I can connect to amsn and to xchat and I can ping the external network
[10:49] <wathek> but I cannot navigate
[10:49] <wathek> I can connect to ftp too
[10:49] <wathek> but no http
[10:50] <jussi01> !weekend
[10:50] <BooVeMan> wathek: review your proxy configuration
[10:50] <wathek> BooVeMan, have no proxy
[10:50] <wathek> BooVeMan, I can connect to https too
[10:50] <BooVeMan> can you telnet to google on port 80 ?
[10:51] <wathek> BooVeMan, let me try
[10:51] <wathek> Trying 74.125.43.99... Connected to www.l.google.com.
[10:51] <wathek> that's what it says
[10:52] <BooVeMan> wathek: so its def a browser prob - yo are using lynx? firefoxx? konqueror?
[10:52] <wathek> BooVeMan, same problem with firefox and konqueror under Kubntu 8.10
[10:53] <wathek> firefox 3.0.10
[10:53] <BooVeMan> in the console you get something doing a echo $http_proxy ?
[10:54] <wathek> BooVeMan, nothing
[10:54] <wathek> I've not that variable
[10:54] <BooVeMan> strange
[10:55] <wathek> yep
[10:55] <wathek> yesterday it was working
[10:56] <BooVeMan> virus ;-)
[10:56] <wathek> Linux's Virus ?
[10:56] <wathek> you're kidding ?
[10:57] <BooVeMan> wathek: Just kidding - so did you change something between yesterday and now? system uprades? new plugins?
[10:58] <wathek> BooVeMan, no
[11:00] <BooVeMan> wathek: sorry - I#m out of ideas - last resort: restart - btw hows the weather in tunisia?
[11:00] <wathek> lol BoostedR36MK3 I restarted my computer I restarted the router and nothing :p
[11:00] <wathek> oops sorry BoostedR36MK3
[11:00] <wathek> lol BooVeMan  I restarted my computer I restarted the router and nothing :p
[11:00] <wathek> BooVeMan, it's sunny here
[11:01] <BooVeMan> wathek: I'm missing 1h30 to sunrise - gonna grab some sleep - bye
[11:01] <wathek> BooVeMan, ok thanx
[11:01] <wathek> :D
[11:14] <kristina> hi, I added my printer (hp laserjet 6l) under system settings, printing of test page works, printing of a pdf from okular doesn't, any suggestions? never had a problem with this printer before
[11:18] <oobe> kristina, did you select the printer with okular
[11:19] <kristina> oobe: hi, yes I did. just found out that it works if I start okular with sudo, so I suppose I don't have the rights to print as a user. how do I add myself to the printing group?
[11:20] <oobe> not sure on that one
[11:29] <kristina> oobe: ok got it. tnx
[11:32] <myself> can i have ubuntu and kubuntu installed at the same time with the programs crossing over
[11:32] <myself> or is it treated like two seperate installs
[11:32] <myself> or will they connect
[11:33] <myself> if i do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:34] <jussi01> myself: they are connected and you can choose which one to login to at the login screen. programs will be available in both
[11:35] <myself> okay, will it create problems if i have both installeD?
[11:35] <myself> i just want an RSS feed on my desktop, i mean integrated into the desktop, and people are telling me KDE is better for this
[11:35] <myself> so will kubuntu use the same directory and files and everything for say stuff like Wine or other programs like firefox and music players
[11:35] <myself> is it all interconnnecteD?
[11:36] <myself> hmm?
[11:37] <myself> :)
[11:38] <myself> so if i run kubuntu, what im asking, are all the programs and packages intereconnected? how exactly does it work
[11:38] <myself> with ubuntu
[12:02] <miramar> amigos eu estava com o Kurumin NG aki na maquina .... mais ontem a noite fiz uma atualizaçao .....
[12:03] <miramar> sou ner no linux ....
[12:03] <miramar> e queria saber se tem como eu ver que versao que eu estou agora
[12:11] <alumno0> Webcam problem. I've an easynote packard bell computer with a webcam. The problem is that the image is shown down. Any idea?
[12:11] <jussi01> !ebox > tsimpson
[12:38] <dresnu> hello, is there a way to prevent message notifications for downloading files with konqueror in kde 4? They are so annoying
[12:42] <replman> Hi! Jow can i save the current session in kubuntu 9.04? I read about "Save Session" in KDE-Menue but i don't find it....
[12:46] <myself> hey so amarok will archive but not play my mp3s, ubuntu-restricted-extras is installed
[12:50] <DoctorPepper> hi guys!
[12:51] <myself> HEY
[12:51] <myself> how do i change my kde theme
[12:51] <myself> to make it so the windows aren't all white
[12:51] <myself> like a freaking mac
[12:52] <Mamarok> myself: systemsettings -> Appearance -> select another color scheme
[12:53] <Mamarok> and it's not white, it's light grey, you should tone down the brightness of your screen I suggest...
[12:54] <myself> hehe alright
[12:54] <myself> my biggest problem though
[12:54] <myself> is amarok not playing mp3s
[12:55] <myself> also non-kde programs, they will still be light grey?
[12:57] <myself> can anyone help
[12:57] <myself> me get mp3s to work in amarok
[12:57] <Mamarok> myself: for the gtk programms you can use the options in the same place...
[12:58] <Mamarok> myself: patience!
[12:58] <Mamarok> myself: install libxine1-ffmpeg and make sure you have the Xine backend in Phonon
[12:59] <myself> okay let me do that :)
[12:59] <myself> so im actually downloading an update , its taking a while
[12:59] <myself> so i can change GTK program colors too?
[12:59] <myself> its all connecteD
[12:59] <myself> ?
[13:00] <myself> i see you just have to restart them
[13:00] <myself> brb
[13:01] <myself> i seem to have figured it out
[13:01] <myself> thank you
[13:02] <Mamarok> yaw :)
[13:04] <DoctorPepper> can an ext4 partiition be used as /boot  on kubuntu 9.04
[13:05] <Mamarok> DoctorPepper: yes, why not?
[13:08] <DoctorPepper> i am asking  because  ive  seen  a talk by an ext4 developer where it was said that grub  wasnt supporting  ext4  as a boot partition
[13:12] <Mamarok> DoctorPepper: oh, and this is recent?
[13:14] <DoctorPepper> in 2009
[13:15] <DoctorPepper> about 4 month ago
[13:16] <Mamarok> DoctorPepper: well, I don't know then, as the possibility to convert to ext4 is offered, I would think it's ok, but have to check
[13:16] <myself> how do i make it so i can see the files on my desktop in kubuntu
[13:17] <myself> i saved something to my desktop but i cant use it
[13:17] <myself> i cant see it
[13:17] <Mamarok> myself: you mean the files folder widget?
[13:17] <myself> i mean so i can see the files that are located in my "Desktop" directory on my desktop
[13:18] <Mamarok> myself: you will have to set the folder in the widget to /home/yourname/Desktop
[13:18] <myself> its empty, i cant see anything on my desktop
[13:18] <myself> how do i do that
[13:19] <Mamarok> myself: when you hover over the folder view widget, you get a handle with a tool icon
[13:19] <Mamarok> click there and set the view to the desktop folder
[13:19] <valgaav_> DoctorPepper: I'm using ext4 on my jaunty box and have no separate ext3 partition for boot ... so yes GRUB in ubuntu is patched so that it can run from ext4
[13:19] <myself> what is the folder view widget
[13:19] <DoctorPepper> valgaav_: thank you
[13:20] <Mamarok> myself: it is visible by the default in the upper left of your screen
[13:21] <myself> wait im confused, i click the "start menu" type thing?
[13:22] <myself> and do what?
[13:22] <myself> :)
[13:22] <Mamarok> myself: look at your desktop, there is a widget in the upper left corner, showing some content
[13:23] <Deepthought> I managed to mess up the package system by trying to install compiz; it also messed kwin, and I can' t get the broken package-manager to fix it.
[13:23] <Mamarok> myself: which by default shwos you the desktop folder
[13:23] <Mamarok> Deepthought: edit the sources.list by hand then and correct it
[13:23] <myself> theres a thing only in the upper right corner
[13:24] <Deepthought> Mamarok, ?!?
[13:24] <Mamarok> myself: so you removed what was on the screen by default?
[13:24] <myself> i didn't remove it
[13:24] <myself> it did it on its own >:)
[13:24] <Mamarok> myself: you are running KDE4, right?
[13:24] <myself> yea
[13:24] <myself> wait
[13:24] <myself> no actualyl you're right
[13:24] <myself> there was a folder
[13:24] <myself> but i closed it
[13:24] <myself> how do i get it back
[13:24] <myself> it did have my desktop on it
[13:24] <Mamarok> myself: no, nothing goes "by it's own"...
[13:24] <myself> yeah its my fault
[13:24] <myself> im stupid
[13:24] <myself> im sorry
[13:24] <sil3nt|warri0r> can anyoen plz help me my wifi running :(
[13:24] <myself> :
[13:24] <myself> :(
[13:24] <Mamarok> myself: right click on your desktop, add widget
[13:25] <sil3nt|warri0r> using kde4.2.4 (kubuntu-9.04), card chip is bcm4322
[13:25] <Deepthought> Mamarok, where can I find sources.list, and what has it got to do with my problem ?
[13:25] <myself> okay
[13:25] <myself> which widget?
[13:25] <sil3nt|warri0r> it was working before a did a full update :)
[13:25] <Mamarok> myself: there, seacrch for the folder view and add it
[13:26] <Mamarok> Deepthought: you added some sources, no?
[13:26] <Deepthought> no
[13:26] <Deepthought> Mamarok, no
[13:26] <Mamarok> Deepthought: then what did you do exactly?
[13:26] <Deepthought> Mamarok, tried to install compiz
[13:26] <Deepthought> Mamarok, then everythoing went haywaire
[13:26] <sil3nt|warri0r> but after update the restrickted kernel module does not seems to work, its showing "module activated but not is use"
[13:26] <Mamarok> Deepthought: you do not need Compilz, you have desktop effects with Kwin
[13:27] <paolo> ciao
[13:27] <Mamarok> !it | paolo
[13:27] <Deepthought> Mamarok, I know, but I wanted the extra's kwin doesn' t offer...   like explodinfg fire.. Anyway, that;s  not the point, it should work but it got messed up
[13:28] <Mamarok> Deepthought: did you follow some instructions from somewhere?
[13:29] <Deepthought> Mamarok, no, just used the package manager and the knowledge from several forums and earlier versions onf KDE that it can use compiz.   Anyway, it' s not a compiz problem I believe but a ***-up of the package manager
[13:29] <Mamarok> Deepthought: then use the command line, I can tell you how
[13:29] <Mamarok> Deepthought: and watch your language...
[13:29] <Deepthought> Mamarok, it keeps saying packages are broken, but when I try to fix' m it won' t go
[13:30] <Deepthought> sorry
[13:30] <Deepthought> stars !
[13:30] <Mamarok> Deepthought: open a konsole and type sudo apt-get remove compiz*
[13:30] <Deepthought> Mamarok, I tried apt-get check and apt-get -f install, all goes, but problem persists
[13:30] <myself> hey how come i can't click the "Computer" link/icon on my desktop from ubuntu (the one that took me to CD ROM/ HARD DRIVE) in Kubuntu
[13:31] <Deepthought> Mamarok, good thought, 'll try that now
[13:31] <Mamarok> Deepthought: do you get an output on the console for errors?
[13:31] <Mamarok> myself: what computer link? Are you really using KDE?
[13:31] <myself> yes
[13:31] <myself> i am on kde
[13:31] <myself> but i have ubuntu installed too
[13:32] <myself> i just installed kubuntu
[13:32] <Deepthought> Mamarok, a whole bunch of dependency-stuff, compiz not installed, and an error-code (1)
[13:32] <myself> so i have all my ubuntu stuff too
[13:32] <Mamarok> myself: that doesn't matter, it's a different Desktop environnment
[13:32] <Mamarok> Deepthought: please put it in a pastebin and give the link here
[13:32] <myself> i see i should probably have different desktop folders for KDE and the other one heh
[13:32] <Deepthought> Mamarok, please remind me on pastebin ?
[13:33] <Mamarok> !paste | Deepthought
[13:33] <Mamarok> there you go :)
[13:33] <sil3nt|warri0r> any help guys with my wifi thing :|
[13:34] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: I can't really help, you will have to wait till somebody else steps in
[13:34] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: you did google and search the forums, didn't you?
[13:35] <Deepthought> Mamarok, http://paste.ubuntu.com/190263/
[13:35] <sil3nt|warri0r> yea, i did search google
[13:35] <Deepthought> Mamarok, I kenw that, just needed the adress
[13:36] <Deepthought> Mamarok, hope the dutch doesn't throw ya off
[13:36] <Mamarok> Deepthought: you seem to have quite some dependency problems, what version of Kubuntu are you using?
[13:36] <Mamarok> Deepthought: I can read it ok :)
[13:37] <Deepthought> Mamarok, fout=error, vereisten=dependencies, instellen=configure,
[13:37] <Mamarok> and apt-get error outputs look the same in all languages with european characters :)
[13:37] <Mamarok> Deepthought: you seem to have quite some dependency problems, what version of Kubuntu are you using?
[13:37] <Deepthought> Mamarok, jaunty
[13:37] <Mamarok> Deepthought: anything else you added to the default repositories?
[13:38] <sil3nt|warri0r> Mamarok: i am not very expert with google, but when i try to search "kubuntu 9.04 kde 4.2.4 broadcom bcm4322"
[13:39] <sil3nt|warri0r> Mamarok: its only show one result and thats not in english
[13:39] <Deepthought> Mamarok, And I' ve noticed... have a serial ATA and parallel ATA, partitions spread among all three drives on both, sometimes after standby one drive on pATA doesn' t re-initiate; probably sourc of problem ...
[13:39] <Deepthought> Mamarok, no extra repo''s, just the dedaults including restricted
[13:40] <Mamarok> Deepthought: I am puzzled, because those dependency problems come from Gnome, do you have an older Gnome version lingering somewhere?
[13:41] <Deepthought> Mamarok, nope, and it puzzles me too, 'cause I couldn' t see the sense in installi g all this gnome stuff when I ticked compiz; it's a totally fresh jaunty kubuntu alternate install
[13:42] <Deepthought> Mamarok, with some extra installs
[13:42] <Deepthought> Mamarok, all within kpackage
[13:45] <Mamarok> Deepthought: you should eventually ask in #ubuntu if there are known dependency problems in the official repos
[13:45] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: wait, I'll show you something:
[13:45] <Deepthought> Mamarok, and how would I phrase that ?
[13:46] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: http://myriam.kollide.net/googlesearch_bcm4322.png
[13:46] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: I get 742 matches, there must be something somewhere...
[13:47] <Deepthought> Mamarok, and how would it give me info I could use how ? (I' m totally lost here, as you can pobably tell)
[13:47] <Mamarok> Deepthought: paste the output you showed me, btw there also is a #ubuntu-nl where they can all read Dutch :)
[13:47] <Deepthought> Mamarok, yeah, but it's not that crowded...
[13:47] <sil3nt|warri0r> Mamarok: "the page not found on this server"
[13:47] <Deepthought> Mamarok, or knowledgable
[13:48] <Mamarok> Deepthought: I strongly suspect some repository problems, maybe in your local mirror
[13:48] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: oops, sorry, second...
[13:48] <Deepthought> Mamarok, I usually end up being the guru over there.. ;-)
[13:48] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: http://myriam.kollide.net/googlesearch_bcn4322.png it was a typo
[13:49] <Deepthought> Mamarok, but I' m using the international repo, because the dutch has all sortsa stuuf missing !
[13:49] <Mamarok> Deepthought: the main server?
[13:49] <Deepthought> Mamarok, yep
[13:49] <Deepthought> lemme check though
[13:49] <Mamarok> Deepthought: then do a sudo apt-get update, just to see if you get errors
[13:50] <Deepthought> Mamarok, no errors, and it's all http://archive.ubuntu.com, that' s main, right >?
[13:51] <Mamarok> yes, that's main
[13:51] <Deepthought> Mamarok, it does have some stances saying ' neglected'
[13:52] <Deepthought> (in dutch)
[13:52] <Mamarok> Deepthought: ask in #ubuntu, pasting your output, there is something wrong in the Gnome repos
[13:52] <Mamarok> Deepthought: those are the US translation sources :)
[13:52] <Deepthought> Mamarok, will do, thanx
[13:52] <Mamarok> which never existed, btw :)
[13:53] <Deepthought> Mamarok, just to be clear, how would I phrase my question ?
[13:53] <Mamarok> Deepthought: well, tell them you wanted to install compiz and that's the result you got
[13:53] <myself> how do i add a system tray to the top of my screen?
[13:53] <myself> im a little nublet forever
[13:54] <Deepthought> Mamarok, eh, but it' s the result from remove comiz ?!   should I maybe try reinstall and paste that output ?
[13:54] <Mamarok> myself: right click on the desktop, Add panel
[13:54] <Mamarok> Deepthought: oh, wait, that's what I didn't get :)
[13:54] <Mamarok> yes, try reinstalling it
[13:55] <Deepthought> ok
[13:55] <myself> how do i move the digital clock?
[13:55] <Mamarok> Deepthought: btw, using the command line for package installation is always easier
[13:55] <Mamarok> myself: click and drag?
[13:55] <myself> the widget on the panek
[13:55] <myself> panel
[13:55] <Mamarok> myself: I stringly suggest you try before asking...
[13:55] <myself> i did
[13:55] <myself> of course
[13:55] <myself> clicked every mosue button
[13:55] <Tscheesy_> mysel unlock the Plasmoids first
[13:55] <Mamarok> oh, you wnat to add it to the panel?
[13:56] <myself> well its on the panel
[13:56] <myself> but i want to drag it to the right corner
[13:56] <myself> its in the center
[13:56] <Mamarok> Tscheesy_: those are not locked AFAIK
[13:56] <Tscheesy_> click on the panels-cashew-nut then
[13:56] <Mamarok> myself: there is a cashew shaped icon on the lower panel, click on it, then you can move things on the top panel too
[13:57] <myself> i see cool, thanks
[13:57] <myself> also how do i install themes i downloaded
[13:57] <myself> color themes etc
[13:57] <myself> well
[13:57] <myself> not color, but actual themes
[13:57] <Deepthought> Mamarok, if you know the exact package name that is
[13:57] <Mamarok> Deepthought: sudo apt-get install compiz
[13:58] <Tscheesy_> myself: open the Plasmoids-Menu - on the lower-end is a Menu - please Try yourself first bevor asking
[13:58] <myself> hey its wierd, i keep dragging the digital clock to a corrner, but it goes right back to the center whe ni let go
[13:58] <Mamarok> myself: themes are added in the system settings, but you need to have them compiled against KDE4 to work...
[13:59] <Mamarok> myself: umlock the widgets?
[13:59] <myself> yeah well this is a KDE theme
[13:59] <myself> they are not locked
[13:59] <Deepthought> Mamarok, yeah, that one's easy, but they're not all like that...   anyway, you' re pobably right about the repo; get a load of this:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/190274/
[13:59] <Deepthought> Mamarok, think I' ll head over to #ubuntu now and hit them with the paste...
[13:59] <Tscheesy_> myself: then ther's no space left - ther where you try to place it .. please make further tries
[14:00] <Deepthought> Mamarok, the sticky paste... ;-)
[14:00] <myself> theres space.....
[14:00] <myself> theres nothing there
[14:00] <Mamarok> Deepthought: good idea, there really is something wrong with their dependencies :)
[14:01] <Tscheesy_> myself: may you try with other plasmoids
[14:01] <Mamarok> myself: did you follow instructions on techbase.kde.org on how to make a theme?
[14:01] <myself> it was a theme i downloaded
[14:01] <myself> well, hold on
[14:01] <myself> i wanan figure out how to just put the clock in the corner
[14:01] <myself> lol
[14:01] <myself> its wierd, i mean theres space there
[14:01] <myself> but it wont move
[14:02] <myself> it just goes back to the center
[14:02] <myself> after i move it
[14:02] <myself> whyyyy
[14:02] <Mamarok> myself: what exact KDE version do you have?
[14:02] <myself> 9.04
[14:02] <myself> i installed it from ubuntu
[14:03] <Mamarok> that's the Kubuntu version, but the KDE4 version?
[14:03] <Mamarok> 4.2.2?
[14:03] <myself> probably
[14:03] <myself> the latest one
[14:03] <myself> i got it like 2 hours ago
[14:03] <Mamarok> myself: on the panel cashe, go to more settings
[14:03] <Mamarok> cashew*
[14:04] <Mamarok> change the Panel alignment
[14:04] <myself> yeah i want the clock on the right
[14:05] <myself> lol
[14:05] <myself> it crashed
[14:05] <myself> okay well wierd
[14:05] <Mamarok> myself: and you only have the clock there?
[14:05] <myself> yeah
[14:05] <myself> clock and desktop
[14:05] <myself> so i align it to right
[14:06] <Mamarok> myself: why not just add this widget to the desktop, on the upper right?
[14:06] <Mamarok> you do not need a panel for that...
[14:06] <myself> would be nice for windows not to overlap it
[14:06] <myself> when i maximize
[14:06] <jussi01> How does one mount .mdf files?
[14:06] <Mamarok> myself: drag the lower panel to the top and add it there?
[14:07] <myself> yeah when i add the clock to the bottom, it does go in the corner
[14:07] <France1159> Hello everyone
[14:07] <myself> cause theres a bunch of other stuff
[14:08] <Deepthought> is there a way to do a reinstall without losing all my extra installed programs ?   (I have a separate usr partition; maybe a similar thng to home with the settings ispossible ?)
[14:08] <Mamarok> myself: remove the clock and add it back again once you have everything set, it will go to the right
[14:08] <Mamarok> Deepthought: a separate /home partition you mean?
[14:08] <France1159> someone use Kopete for the MSN protocol ? I'm asking that because i want a similar module to MSN Plus! in order to have in my contact list my nickname from friends.
[14:09] <myself> how do i add a systray widget? i want the systray widget to be on top
[14:09] <Mamarok> Deepthought: the only way not to loose extra programs would be to create a separate /opt partition and install the programs there
[14:09] <Mamarok> myself: add it...
[14:09] <myself> oh dfound it
[14:10] <tsimpson> jussi01: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion#mdf2iso
[14:10] <Mamarok> myself: you really should try a bit by yourself, I am sure most of this you could find out by <ourself if you wanted to...
[14:10] <Tscheesy_> myself: Please look in the Add-Plasmoids Menu in the top-Right Cashew and get familiar with these you can put your own Panel together with these
[14:11] <Deepthought> Mamarok, that too, but I was thinking, maybe having a separate usr could give an otion to have all the extra installed programs to stick around as well (I did reinstalls with all my settings intact due to my separatre home, and since all extra' s get installed in usr I thought maybe there' s a way to have them stick around as well ?)
[14:11] <myself> you mean add widgets? whats a plasmoids
[14:11] <Tscheesy_> please play a bit with these
[14:11] <Deepthought> Mamarok, by the way, no response yet on ubuntu
[14:12] <myself> so is there a way to resize the system tray?
[14:12] <myself> its huge
[14:12] <Tscheesy_> please try yourself with the Panels-Cashew
[14:12] <Mamarok> Tscheesy_: those are called widgets since quite some time, no more plasmoïds :)
[14:12] <myself> i seem to only be able to move it
[14:12] <myself> not resize it
[14:12] <Tscheesy_> k :)
[14:13] <Tscheesy_> myself: you will find it
[14:13] <myself> find what
[14:13] <Mamarok> myself: no need to think aloud...
[14:13] <myself> like it doesnt behave like a resizable thing
[14:13] <myself> im asking you how to resize it cause it does not seem to be able to be resize
[14:13] <myself> d
[14:13] <Mamarok> myself: right click on it, we have told you at least ten times already you can find out things with a right click on it...
[14:14] <myself> there are no right click options for resize
[14:14] <Tscheesy_> how to resize a window? by its Borders
[14:14] <myself> yeah im only able to move it, not resize it
[14:14] <myself> even when i click the corner
[14:15] <Mamarok> brb, later
[14:15] <Deepthought> Mamarok, hm... interesting..   How would that work ?   could i give an extra parameter to apt-get to get all my important extra's to install into opt or something like that ?   and how would the new install know about those progs then ?   and put them in the menu ?
[14:15] <Tscheesy_> yeah - on the cashw whts then ? myself
[14:15] <Tscheesy_> please look at this  a bit
[14:15] <myself> well at least i am able to resize the entire panel
[14:16] <Tscheesy_> i really would recomment to play tith the widget settings
[14:16] <Tscheesy_> -t+w
[14:17] <Tscheesy_> Deepthought: google will lead you to many Forum-Threads how to save a list of your installed packages and further tipps.
[14:17] <Mamarok> Deepthought: but if those are from the regular repositories, th installation doesn't tak much time
[14:18] <Mamarok> Deepthought: there is a possibility to get a list of all installed packages, save it and reuse it to reinstall with the same configuration
[14:19] <Deepthought> Mamarok, you mean like automagic ?   how ?
[14:20] <Mamarok> Deepthought: I always do it with the synaptic package manger, haven't seen the option it in another one yet
[14:20]  * Tscheesy_ thinks(automagix is evil)
[14:20] <xp-killer> omg i love linux
[14:20] <Deepthought> myself, if you get the opytions from the panel there' s an option there that says ' hight'  , click it and be amazed and satisfied !
[14:20] <Mamarok> Deepthought: ?
[14:21] <Deepthought> I have synaptic; where' s the option /
[14:21] <Deepthought> Mamarok, that was a tip o myself
[14:22] <Mamarok> Deepthought: go to the installed packages, then click on the packageview and select all (Ctrl+A does the trick)
[14:22] <myself> im sorry for all the hassle
[14:22] <myself> oh
[14:22] <myself> hieight is it
[14:22] <myself> awesome
[14:22] <myself> thanky ou!
[14:22] <myself> yyou
[14:22] <Mamarok> Deepthought: then go to the Menu File - Generate a download script
[14:23] <Deepthought> Mamarok, eh, how do I go to installed packages ?
[14:23] <Mamarok> Deepthought: Status (on the lower left) -> installed packages
[14:23] <Deepthought> Mamarok, aha 1
[14:23] <Deepthought> !
[14:24] <Deepthought> Mamarok, that is sooooooo coooool !
[14:24] <myself> hmm height is kind of it, i mean, itll make it smaller, but only if it makes it taller
[14:24] <Deepthought> Mamarok, and how do i get it in then on my new install ?
[14:25] <Mamarok> myself: there is a minimum size of the panel, else you don't see the content
[14:25] <Deepthought> myself, <?!?
[14:25] <Mamarok> Deepthought: it's a script, so you can just execute it
[14:25] <Deepthought> Mamarok, as in click it ?
[14:26] <Mamarok> Deepthought: no, you can load it in synaptic on the other computer
[14:26] <Deepthought> Mamarok, or some sh . thing ?
[14:26] <Mamarok> Menu option File -> add downloaded packages
[14:27] <Deepthought> Mamarok, ok, wich menu-item ?
[14:28] <Deepthought> read in markings ?   (bad translation, anyway, top of the file-menu
[14:28] <Deepthought> Mamarok, or ' add downloaded packages'
[14:30] <Mamarok> Deepthought: read what I wrote above :)
[14:30] <Deepthought> Mamarok, ?
[14:31] <Deepthought> Mamarok, I got the making the script, but how do I import it in synaptic in the new install ?
[14:31] <Mamarok> Deepthought: 15:26 < Mamarok> Menu option File -> add downloaded packages
[14:32] <Deepthought> Mamarok, ok !   YOu just made my life a whole lot easier....   Thanxalot !   (one of the knights of the round Ubuntu-table)
[14:33] <Mamarok> Deepthought: just check it really did generate a list, sometimes this seems to be a tad buggy
[14:34] <Deepthought> Mamarok, one more question thoug: how big is the chance that if I make this script and do a reinstall (no solution could be faster probably then just doing that, especially with that script) that I inherit the rpoblem ?   Or is there some error-checking in that proces ?
[14:35] <Mamarok> Deepthought: well, you shouldn't do this with your actuall configuration...
[14:35] <Deepthought> Mamarok, ehh ?
[14:35] <Deepthought> Mamarok, as if I have more then one ?
[14:36] <Mamarok> Deepthought: you have lots of broken links in there, you shouldn't use that
[14:36] <Mamarok> Deepthought: or were you able to repair the compiz stuff?
[14:36] <Deepthought> Mamarok, so just start fresh )...again... sigh...) ?
[14:37] <Mamarok> Deepthought: come on, it takes maximum 30 minutes, and don't reformat your /home partition :)
[14:37] <Mamarok> Deepthought: last time I had to install and update a Windows Vista, it took me like 10 hours, and there was nothing more than Vista...
[14:37] <Deepthought> Mamarok, I know, but getting all the extra's takes osme more time...   noit a big sweat really, but it' s only the xxx' d time...
[14:38] <Mamarok> Deepthought: well, you sure you need all these extras, really?
[14:38] <Mamarok> Deepthought: how many packages have you installed currently?
[14:38] <Deepthought> thought the script thing would save lotsa time, but the again, it will in the future, every working config i' ll make that script, so I will have only one step lost in the future if something goes wrong again...   so thanxagain...
[14:39] <Mamarok> Deepthought: how many packages do you have installed?
[14:39] <Mamarok> total count I mean?
[14:40] <Deepthought> Mamarok, yep, firefox, thunderbird, xchat (another problem; lost my channellist in quassel, can' t get it back), and of course the studio-package, and I can' t remember what else, you' re right, it' s no big drama ads long as my home-part stayz...
[14:40] <Mamarok> Deepthought: could you answer my question please?
[14:41] <Deepthought> Mamarok, oh yeah, the arcade-games like torn and sauerbraten  and doom etc (still have windoze for the real games though... ;-))
[14:41] <Deepthought> Mamarok, oh, sorry, how can I check that ?
[14:41] <Mamarok> *sigh*
[14:41] <Mamarok> Deepthought: in the baseline of synaptic
[14:41] <Deepthought> ok
[14:42] <Deepthought> 1234
[14:42] <Deepthought> eheheh
[14:42] <Deepthought> Mamarok, noot my fault; dependencies, eh ?
[14:42] <Mamarok> dependencies?
[14:43] <Deepthought> Mamarok, funny thing, it sez no packages broken, still experience sez different...
[14:43] <Mamarok> but 1234 is not much for an installation
[14:43] <Mamarok> Deepthought: those are not exactly broken, the dependencies have conflicting informations
[14:43] <Deepthought> Mamarok, 's what I thought, had much more before
[14:43] <Deepthought> Mamarok, aha
[14:43] <Mamarok> Deepthought: well, you only have Kubuntu now, right?
[14:43] <Deepthought> Mamarok, yep
[14:44] <Mamarok> and you didn't add all the KDE packages available, didn't you?
[14:44] <Deepthought> Mamarok, ?
[14:44] <Mamarok> I have 2167 packages, which is all KDE4 packages + dev environnement + some -dbg packages too
[14:45] <Mamarok> Deepthought: if you go through the repsoitories and search for KDE4, you have a lot more than what comes with a basic installation :)
[14:46] <Deepthought> Mamarok, I just go for what I need, and when it suggests installing a lotta gnome stuff I look again for an alternative, so apart form the compiz (wich dragged all that gnome stuff) I didn' t install anything that had more than a few 'normal' dependencies
[14:46] <Deepthought> Mamarok, good suggestion
[14:46] <Mamarok> Deepthought: if you are patient, Kwin comes with a lot more options in KDE 4.3 btw, like exploding windows, etc
[14:46] <Deepthought> 'll keep that in mind
[14:48] <Mamarok> Deepthought: and you do not need Compiz, unless you really want some particular features, but then you need to change the default windowmanager from Kwin to Compiz
[14:48] <sergio> alguem aí fala portugues ?
[14:48] <Mamarok> !pt | sergio
[14:48] <Deepthought> Mamarok, maybe I should do just that, ' t was just a little bit of experimental thing, not really a neccesity; but I 'd come to expect (k)ubuntu to not crash on installing stuff, maybe I was wrong, or maybe if I want that sorta behaviour I should stick to the long-support versions...
[14:49] <Deepthought> Mamarok, the real problem is that the compiz-exp made my kwin run'n'hide, I can' t reactivate it...
[14:49] <Mamarok> Deepthought: well, stick with what you need really, because everythin which is not part of KDE will a) not look that good in the first place and b) drags you a lot of external stuff you will rarely need anyway
[14:50] <Deepthought> Mamarok, I' m not even sure wich is running my desktop now... :-)
[14:50] <Mamarok> Deepthought: that might well be related to the x drivers of your graphic gard anyway, Compiz would not work neither then
[14:50] <Mamarok> Deepthought: go to systemsettings -> Desktop and check
[14:51] <Deepthought> Mamarok, makes a lotta sense...   I have room left on a drive, think I' ll make an extyra install so I don' t mmess up my home-office everytime I try something...
[14:51] <Mamarok> that is indeed a very good idea, so you have a working environnement and an experimental one
[14:51] <Deepthought> Mamarok, check wheere exactly ?
[14:52] <Mamarok> btw, you can very well use other stuff in a VirtualBox btw
[14:52] <Mamarok> -btw
[14:52] <Deepthought> Mamarok, also a good idea
[14:54] <RurouniJones> Anyone know a list of linux friendly PCI wireless cards?
[14:55] <Deepthought> Mamarok, just get in effect-settings, no mention of wich winmang
[14:56] <Mamarok> Deepthought: can you click the Enavle Desktop effects button?
[14:56] <Mamarok> Enable
[14:56] <Mamarok> Deepthought: you din't edit any environnement settings to add compiz instead of Kwind, didn't you?
[14:56] <Deepthought> Mamarok, yeah, but after a few x-resets it gives a kwin-error... so i guess that answers my question, right ?
[14:57] <Mamarok> as this is not set automatically
[14:57] <Mamarok> what Kwin error?
[14:57] <Deepthought> Mamarok, nope
[14:57] <Mamarok> hence you still have Kwin running
[14:58] <Deepthought> Mamarok, oh, wait, now it doesn' t give a kwin error, just mentions it an' t initiate in these settings; let' s trrrry putting it to defaults
[14:59] <Deepthought> Mamarok, keeps  refusing...   sez something about try to disable compositing
[15:00] <Deepthought> Mamarok, but I didn' t do anything in that area
[15:00] <Mamarok> Deepthought: does it say something about not enough memory or CPU speed or such?
[15:02] <Deepthought> Mamarok, eh, well, I did install compiz-icon, and at one point or another I activated it and changed to compiz, but I don' t believe it stuck... ohhh... it' s a mess, maybe I should just reinstall... seperate home has been my saviour before, will be again... and than xto you , next time the synaptic-script will be as well (still, I think I' ve definitely learned not to experiment with my day-to-day-system...
[15:05] <Deepthought> Mamarok, absolutely not; p4 3.2 MZ, 2 Gbyte and 4 Gbyte in two partitions swap
[15:05] <ahmad> hi: what is the tool that i can use to join kubuntu station to MS domain
[15:05] <Deepthought> Mamarok, I mean 2 G ram and 2x 2 G swap
[15:06] <xp-killer> i want to install the right drivers to run compiz but the fglrx pluging give me a little problem and i restart x server now everythings is big and i cant change the display
[15:06] <lorin> does anyone know how to configure flash player so it can work with konqueror ?
[15:06] <ahmad> lorin: why not using Firefox ?
[15:07] <lorin> because i'm running on kubuntu...
[15:07] <Deepthought> Mamarok, hey, here' s someone else running compiz !
[15:07] <ahmad> lorin: sudo apt-get install firefox
[15:07] <lorin> okay, thanks
[15:08] <Mamarok> Deepthought: well, I wouldn't, but check with him if he finds the solution :)
[15:08] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[15:08] <Mamarok> afk now for some time, later
[15:09] <Deepthought> Mamarok, fglrx is ati, right ?   I have nvidia (had problems in jaunty beta though, due to new xorg )
[15:10] <ahmad_> Deepthought: i never used i before. is it good ?
[15:10] <ahmad_> used it*
[15:11] <Deepthought> ahmad, ?
[15:11] <administrator_> slm
[15:13] <administrator_> bana t]rkce yardem adecek  araniyor
[15:13] <ahmad_> what was that ?
[15:14] <BluesKaj> ahmad_, turkish
[15:14] <p_> hi all
[15:14] <p_> i just installed kubuntu for my first time yesterday
[15:14] <BluesKaj> :)
[15:14] <ahmad_> ah i c :)
[15:15] <p_> and everything is just a mess
[15:15] <ahmad_> lol
[15:15] <p_> i'm sorry for my english, anyone french here?
[15:15] <p_> in fact i'd like to work with adobe premiere-likes
[15:16] <p_> such as cinerella
[15:16] <p_> but 1) i dunno where to store the downloaded files
[15:17] <p_> 2) even with this, i can open deb files
[15:17] <ahmad_> p_: what browser u r using ?
[15:17] <p_> default one, konqueror
[15:17] <Deepthought> bye Mamarok , thanx for yer help !
[15:17] <ahmad_> install firefox to ease your life
[15:17] <ahmad_> p_:  sudo apt-get install firefox
[15:17] <p_> i tried to make the script-line for it takes the dépot-files directly
[15:18] <p_> ok thanks
[15:19] <lorin> and do you know why when i'm trying to activate driver for Nvidia graphic card (fx5600, driver vers 173) it don't makes anything except what is written in the field where writes the type of driver becomes ... whiter ( i don'y know how to explaing that change of colour exacly)
[15:20] <p_> it says, the package is missing, old-fashionned and at the ending line, no pack is associated w firefox
[15:25] <p_> > ahmad _ thanks for help; maybe i must precise that i m totally novice. ok. shall i type the code when the tar gz is opened in ark?
[15:27] <p_> hi again, can anyone help?
[15:30] <xp-killer> how to install the drivers for my ati card?
[15:30] <ign0ramus> !ati | xp-killer
[15:33] <p_> i've an amilo which runs on amd64, why does every setup - even in .deb, close with an error message?
[15:34] <ign0ramus> p_, what are you trying to install?
[15:34] <BluesKaj> p_, what's the error message ?
[15:34] <ign0ramus> sup, BluesKaj :)
[15:35] <BluesKaj> hi ign0ramus , not much , just recovering from moving daughter to Toronto ...did the uhaul thing
 well, actually, artwork upslash, a few medibuntu stuff, cinepaint, gdal, seq 24 etc
[15:36] <ign0ramus> p_, ok, lets start with something in the repos, like cinepaint
[15:36] <ign0ramus> p_, what is the outpute of "sudo apt-get install cinepaint" ?
[15:37] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, sounds fun :/
[15:37] <BluesKaj> p_ whynot paste the errors
[15:37] <sebastian_> hi everybody
[15:37] <xp-killer> how do i Enable accelerated the accelerated ATI graphics driver in the restricted-manager
[15:37] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, heh, not my kind of fun :P
[15:37] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, did you read the link?
[15:37] <p_> E: Impossible de trouver le paquet cinepaint
[15:38] <ign0ramus> p_, ok, please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:38] <xp-killer> yea i read it they told me if i have all the things to Enable accelerated the accelerated ATI graphics driver in the restricted-manager
[15:38] <BluesKaj> p_ , you have to find new sources
[15:38] <xp-killer> who?
[15:38] <xp-killer> me?
[15:39] <BluesKaj> or more sources at least
 man, i read the online tutos yesterday, whats the etc/apt/sources? is it a directory? maybe i didn't dl this at the right place?
[15:39] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, no, not you.  Check in System > Hardware Drivers
[15:39] <BluesKaj> !sources | p_
[15:39] <ign0ramus> p_, do: "kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[15:39] <p_> it's in the 'dossier personnel' root
[15:40] <xp-killer> its  on flgrx
[15:40] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, are there any proprietary drivers to choose from?
 "bash: kate/etc/apt/sources.list: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type" ("no files of that type")
[15:41] <ign0ramus> p_, you are missing a space - copy the command above
[15:42] <xp-killer> by dafault its on fglrx.i just want my display back everything is big since i restart the x server i need my display back to 1240*720 i tink it was something like that
[15:42] <xp-killer> ign^
[15:43] <xp-killer> ign0ramus:
[15:43] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, you tried adjusting resolution in System Settings?
[15:43] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: thats the thing i got only 1 resolution it cant be change
[15:44] <xp-killer> it happen when i restart the x server$
[15:44] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, but it was available to you before?
[15:44] <xp-killer> ign0ramus:
[15:44] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: yes
[15:44] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, have you tried reconfiguring xorg server?
[15:44] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: i got the problem when i try to make compiz work good with my ati card
[15:45] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: no i havent how do i do that?
[15:45] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, "sudo -dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ... it will give you display options
 rite, i got a text file, like a hijackthis logfile; at the ending it tells me ive got a "main restricted" version. seems that i got universe / multiverse stuff.
[15:45] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: but i dont know the resolution by head so i might not kno wwhat to put manualy
[15:45] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" *
[15:46] <ign0ramus> p_, please pastebin the textfile and post the link here
[15:46] <p_> the whole thing?
[15:47] <ign0ramus> p_, yes, the whole thing
[15:47] <xp-killer> ign0ramus:
[15:47] <xp-killer> sudo -dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:47] <xp-killer> sudo: please use single character options
[15:47] <xp-killer> usage: sudo -h | -K | -k | -L | -l | -V | -v
[15:47] <xp-killer> usage: sudo [-bEHPS] [-p prompt] [-u username|#uid] [VAR=value]
[15:47] <xp-killer>             {-i | -s | <command>}
[15:47] <xp-killer> usage: sudo -e [-S] [-p prompt] [-u username|#uid] file ...
[15:47]  * JontheEchidna feels he missed an "i accidentally..."
[15:48] <xp-killer> oh sorry i taught u mean me to paste it here
[15:48] <ign0ramus> JontheEchidna, lol
[15:48] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: thats what it give me
[15:48] <jussi01> xp-killer: remove the first -
[15:48] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, i corrected the command... see my next comment
 just sent to you in pv
[15:50] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: i didnt see the option for the resolution
[15:50] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, generally, the first question is "Autodect resolution?" ... it didn't ask you that?
[15:51] <ign0ramus> p_, yes, i see that, but i asked you to *pastebin* the file .... http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:51] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: ok yes then what should i do?restart the pc or the x server?
[15:52] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, once you've picked your options, restarting X should suffice
[15:52] <xp-killer> k
[15:52] <p_> sorry, done! http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/190323/
[15:53] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: hii
[15:53] <prasanth> when i restart my destop picture change to defalt  what should do to avoid it?
[15:53] <ign0ramus> prasanth, ok, see on lines: 38,39,45, and 46 - they all begin with "#" ?
[15:53] <ign0ramus> p_, ok, see on lines: 38,39,45, and 46 - they all begin with "#" ?
[15:53] <ign0ramus> sorry prasanth, i didn't mean you
[15:54] <ign0ramus> p_, remove that "#" mark on those lines, save the file and exit
[15:54] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: tanks a milliong my display is back
[15:54] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, glad it worked for you :)
[15:54] <ign0ramus> p_, then do: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[15:55] <prasanth> what should i do to keep my wallpaper same ?
[15:55] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: how do i know if im in 8.04 or 8.10?
 administator rights requested
[15:55] <p_> i can't save
[15:56] <Shadoze> Does anyone experiance there bookmarks never saving in firefox?
[15:56] <xp-killer> Shadoze: no
[15:56] <xp-killer> it always save for me
[15:56] <xp-killer> Shadoze: reinstall it
[15:56] <Shadoze> have done, no luck
[15:57] <Shadoze> I can bookmark all i want, just will not save them
[15:57] <Shadoze> Which makes it useless
 shall i replace it? or restart?
[15:57] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, "cat /etc/issue" will tell you
[15:57] <ign0ramus> p_, huh? just save the file with your changes and close it.  that's it.
[15:58] <xp-killer> k
[15:58] <ign0ramus> p_, then do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[15:58] <xp-killer> 8.04
[15:58] <xp-killer> darn i install the wrong one
[15:58] <p_> no, it talks about unsuffisant rights so i cant save in directory.
[15:58] <xp-killer> how do i get to 8.10 ign0ramus?
[15:59] <ign0ramus> p_, ok, close it, and re-open it by doing: "kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" and make the necessary changes
[15:59] <ign0ramus> p_, then you will have les permissions to save your changes
[15:59] <folkslave> why myspace playlist doesnt work with my kubuntu?
[15:59] <ign0ramus> !upgrade | xp-killer
[16:00] <p_> Application 'kate' crashing...
[16:00] <p_> sock_file=/home/p/.kde/socket-p-laptop/kdeinit4__0
[16:00] <p_> Application 'kate' crashing...
[16:00] <p_> sock_file=/home/p/.kde/socket-p-laptop/kdeinit4__0
[16:00] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: i dont wat to upgrade to 9.04
[16:01] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, wow, you must read really fast.
[16:02] <prasanth> help me plese
[16:02] <ign0ramus> p_, ok, so kate crashed.  you can try using kwrite for the same purposes - "kdesudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list"
[16:02] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: lol sorry
 ima try the second way, i didn't have the time yet; tell you later
[16:03] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, if you read the links i posted, you would find you can upgrade to any newer release simply by using the alternate install cd
[16:03] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: yea im reading it
 it starts dl and install through the command line?
[16:04] <BluesKaj> prasanth, state your problem
[16:04] <p_> how do you make this possibl?
[16:04] <p_> i did'nt understand the way you asked for it
[16:04] <prasanth> my background picture changes to defalt when i am restarting
[16:05] <ign0ramus> p_, i have no idea what you're talking about... I'm simply saying open a file with kwrite (if kate is not working), and take out the 4 comments that are holding you back
[16:05] <p_> it just dl lots of files / updates
[16:06] <ign0ramus> p_, so you managed to edit your file and save it?
 i dunno, it crashed anyway
[16:06] <p_> the cl just told me this
[16:07] <ign0ramus> p_, grrr... look, if you want help, you have to follow instructions.
[16:07] <p_> Réception de : 34 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-updates/multiverse Sources [639B]
[16:07] <p_> 10,7Mo réceptionnés en 19s (541ko/s)
[16:07] <p_> Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
[16:07] <p_> p@p-laptop:
[16:07] <p_> seems good anyway, thank you
[16:08] <BluesKaj> yes, it worked then, p_
[16:08] <ign0ramus> p_, if you made the necessary changes, you can now do "sudo apt-get install cinepaint", and voila!
[16:08] <p_> so how do you tell the cl to get and install a program? i didn't understand the grammary
[16:09] <ign0ramus> p_, see my comment directly above yours
[16:09] <ign0ramus> p_, also "man apt-get" will teach you many things
[16:09] <BluesKaj> p_ may I suggest you read more about sources and how they work, they are also called repositories in english ... I suggest you read what they are about and wht they do ..very important for installing new applications updates and upgrades
[16:10] <uga> ign0ramus: man pages aren't the most user friendly documentatoin round...
[16:10] <uga> s/round/around
 i understood the principle, but in the tutos they mainly don't explain the pragmatic ang simple things. but i'm on the help page
[16:11] <ign0ramus> uga, agreed, but all the syntax is there.  there's only so much people on irc can do... i can't explain APT in a few short lines.  reading is fundamental
[16:11] <p_> right
[16:11] <ign0ramus> p_, ok, you said you wanted to install cinepaint.  do: "sudo apt-get install cinepaint"
[16:12] <ign0ramus> p_, now that you've uncommented out sources, the package should be available to download
[16:12] <uga> ign0ramus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[16:12] <uga> better than man pages =)
[16:12] <uga> it's hard to explain that [] means optional to the average user =)
[16:12] <BluesKaj> or
[16:12] <BluesKaj> !apt
[16:13] <BluesKaj> uga,  ...    :)
[16:13] <uga> heh
[16:14] <uga> actually I believe that irc shouldnt' be the starting point of kubuntu users
[16:14] <uga> they all know instant messaging. irc is just too complex for first timers
[16:15] <p_> man, i was born in the eighties, even on w98 we used emule ircs
[16:15] <p_> its a cultural object now
[16:15] <p_> quite geek, even if i dont like this term
[16:16] <ign0ramus> uga, for the younger crowd, maybe... us older folks lived on irc back in the baud/dial-up days :)
[16:16] <uga> ign0ramus: you dare teach irc to your mom? =)
[16:16] <ign0ramus> uga, I label Firefox "Internet"on the desktop for my mom ;)
[16:16] <uga> lol
[16:17] <uga> we live in a world where you tell people... "you'll find it at www.foo.org" and they go google and type in www.foo.org in the search entry
[16:17] <uga> internet == google, messaging == msn, and e-mail == outlook.
[16:18] <uga> the day google changes name, they're dead
[16:18] <p_> quite rite
[16:18] <ign0ramus> uga, haha... someone here the other day was complaining about the help we were giving, because "sudo apt-get install whatever" isn't a valid web site :P
[16:18] <uga> hehehe
[16:19] <uga> ign0ramus: there should be some default jabber channel that every user gets connected to, when starting the desktop first time
[16:20] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, :>)
[16:20] <uga> and remote control capability =)
[16:20] <ign0ramus> uga, would save me some frustration, that's for sure :)
[16:20] <p_> is it possible to link an arduino board to enter porg in it through kubuntu?
[16:21]  * uga wonders what an arduino is
[16:21] <p_> (found it).
[16:21] <ign0ramus> uga, http://arduino.cc/en/Guide/HomePage
[16:21] <p_> its a microcontroller card
[16:21] <BluesKaj> uga, I find IM more complicated than irc ....but I guess I'm a bit old school
[16:22] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, irc has all kinds of syntax commands for functionality, but IM has awesome smilies!
[16:23] <p_> hey excuse me all once againe, but i just realized i dont have any synaptic-like prog
[16:23] <ign0ramus> p_, you don't need one, but you can do "sudo apt-get install synaptic" if you want
[16:23] <p_> thanks
[16:24] <ign0ramus> p_, you can substitute 'synaptic' with 'adept', 'kpackagekit' or whatever, but they're all just calling APT commands you can issue yourself
[16:24] <uga> ign0ramus: uh, atmega. never used that architecture
[16:24] <ign0ramus> uga, me neither, but it seems intriguing
[16:24] <p_> kpackagekit is my default but im afraid of minimal interfaces
[16:25] <ign0ramus> p_, imho, synaptic is the best frontend, but i've weened myself of the gui apps altogether.  APT from cli is *awesome*
[16:25] <ign0ramus> *off
[16:26] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, oh yeah ..can't forget them smilies !
[16:26] <uga> ign0ramus: old pic, x52, arm and coldfire cover all my needs. No space for more ;)
[16:27] <BluesKaj> I use adept and synaptic mainly for finding the correct syntax and names of apps/libs
[16:27] <p_> and, at last, maybe i can walk quite alone tonite. is there anything spec to do with the command line to dl the apt with the web browser?
[16:28] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, "apt-get search <query>" or "sudo apt-get install <beginning_of_app_name>" + TAB button work excellent
[16:28] <ShinyDoofy> hi
[16:29] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, "apt-cache search" *
[16:29] <ShinyDoofy> i have an encrypted partition on my laptop (dm-crypt, reiserfs behind that) and wanted to install kubuntu 9.10 alpha 1 on a different partition
[16:29] <ShinyDoofy> can the installer handle that or will it shoot down my data?
[16:29] <ShinyDoofy> http://img3.abload.de/img/100_2799bjq1.jpg
[16:29] <BluesKaj> yeah, ign0ramus thanks for the tip ...do those cmnds cover all the bases so to speak ?
[16:29] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, not just those 2, but again, the gui's are just using APT commands you can do yourself
[16:29] <ShinyDoofy> i didn't change anything i just told it to take that partition as encrypted, everything else was automatically filled in
[16:31] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, "apt-cache show <package_name>" is another cool command
[16:35] <solifugus> Wow.. back online--NEVER uninstall python 2.6!!
[16:35] <ign0ramus> solifugus, learning is most effective when it is done the hard way :)
[16:35] <solifugus> Now what do I need to install to get wireless networking?
[16:36] <ign0ramus> solifugus, i recommend wicd
[16:36] <solifugus> ign0ramus: yeah.. well, i need python 2.5 for Google App Engine
[16:36] <BluesKaj> network manager widget, solifugus
[16:38] <solifugus> I am one by one, still discovering apps I no longer have..
[16:38] <solifugus> like, Adept..
[16:40] <p_> ok, thanks for all. see you next time
[16:40] <ign0ramus> p_, cheers
[16:40] <ign0ramus> solifugus, some of the apps have been replaced.  you can still install adept if you'd like.
[16:41] <solifugus> ign0ramus: what replaces adept?
[16:41] <ign0ramus> solifugus, kpackagekit
[16:41] <en1gma> sup all
[16:41] <en1gma> im following a guide and it says i need this "Standard C++ runtime library development" and this "Standard C runtime library development"
[16:41] <solifugus> ok...    how to you use wicd?  (I don't have firefox back yet)
[16:41] <ign0ramus> solifugus, honestly, i don't like either, but i abhor kpackagekit
[16:42] <ign0ramus> solifugus, easiest way is to restart X, and it will initialize automatically, and then just set your encryption stuff, etc
[16:42] <solifugus> ok.. yeah.. I don't particularly like adept, either.. but.. sometimes easier than looking through apt-cache search  results
[16:42] <solifugus> ok
[16:43] <ign0ramus> solifugus, if you're going to use a gui, i still think synaptic is the most complete and intuitive, even though it is gtk
[16:43] <solifugus> the only two gui apps I didn't have to re-install so far were skype and openoffice
[16:44] <ign0ramus> solifugus, also, you'll find the adept in kde4 is sorely lacking (much different than kde 3 version), and very crash-y
[16:44] <folkslave> when I open myspace page it doesnt open playlist
[16:44] <ign0ramus> folkslave, that's not really a 'kubuntu' support question, per se....
[16:45] <ign0ramus> folkslave, if its something like a Flash issue, that can be troubleshot here, but myspace functionality isn't covered very extensively here
[16:46] <petsounds> hello, yesterday i'm asking about msn substitute in linux and the answer is aMSN, thanks to aMSN i'm now able to view my friend cam even she is using W. now the Q is what is substitute for Yahoo Messenger in Linux so i'm able to view webcam from W user. thank you
[16:46] <ign0ramus> petsounds, kopete or pidgin
[16:46] <ign0ramus> petsounds, although i'm not sure if pidgin implemented webcam support yet
[16:46] <solifugus> ign0ramus: yes.. I am still in disarray about how messed up kde 4 was.. not the bugs so much as some of the design decisions..
[16:46] <petsounds> ign0ramus: that's not work
[16:47] <ign0ramus> petsounds, what's not work
[16:47] <solifugus> it's the first time I ever thought about switching to gnome.. briefly..
[16:47] <petsounds> ign0ramus: both kopete and pidgin
[16:47] <ign0ramus> solifugus, nooooo!  kde 4 is still progressing (pretty quickly, too)
[16:48] <ign0ramus> petsounds, if you say an app "doesn't work", that is possibly the most vague way to describe your issue
[16:48] <solifugus> I've been using kde since 1.0
[16:48] <solifugus> on a daily basis
[16:49] <ign0ramus> solifugus, well then you recall some of the major upgrades to kde that weren't exactly warmly received then ;)
[16:49] <sebastian_> hi
[16:49] <sebastian_> im a linux newb and need somebody who can answer some simple questions
[16:49] <petsounds> ign0ramus: what i'm trying to say is both kopete and pidgin can't receive webcam invitation (apologize for my bad english)
[16:50] <solifugus> ign0ramus: sure.. none compared to this, though...  kde 3 is so well refined...  1.0 to 2.0 was just light bumps.. less with 2.0 to 3.0..
[16:50] <sebastian_> its would be very nice if someone has got little time
[16:50] <ign0ramus> solifugus, i agree that this is a pretty major jump, that probably wasn't completely ready, but people were always complaining about the x.0 versions
[16:51] <sebastian_> nobody? :(
[16:51] <uga> ign0ramus: 3.0 turned out much better iirc
[16:51] <uga> given that it wasn't that much of a jump from 2.x, compared to 4.x
[16:52] <ign0ramus> !ask | sebastian_
[16:52] <sebastian_> okay
[16:52] <sebastian_> thx
[16:52] <ign0ramus> uga, solifugus, i agree. but kde 4 is the first one that you can show to a windows/mac person, and honestly impress them... i think the idea was to modernize and polish kde, but i wish they'd have put function before form :(
[16:53] <uga> ign0ramus: I think the mistake was in releasing 4.0
[16:54] <uga> but that's just mho, confronted to many
[16:54] <solifugus> ign0ramus: Yes.. and actually, people I've introduced kde too get kde 3.0 a lot better than kde 4.0 -- its gone down a notch in usability
[16:54] <uga> I have to disagree on usability part, but well, each got their own opinion on that
[16:55] <ign0ramus> uga, agreed. 4.0 was kind of a disaster... not from a developer's standpoint, but the fact that it was being pushed by certain (ahem) distros.  I'm on 4.2.3, and I find it passably reliable
[16:55] <sebastian_> i wanted to install JRE via apt-get funktion in the terminal. i had to accept a license but i didnt know which key i have to use so i killed the process. then i tried another way (via downloaded.bin) -> warnings...
[16:55] <sebastian_> i cant install
[16:55] <sebastian_> i dont understand the error
[16:55] <solifugus> my understanding is that this was to provide infrastructure enabling it to be eventually have all those fancy 3D effects as with Berryl  (or however you spell it)
[16:55] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, from terminal, press the right arrow key to go to "OK"
[16:56] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, to accept the license agreement
[16:56] <sebastian_> ahh okay thx
[16:56] <sebastian_> but i cant reinstall :D
[16:56] <sebastian_> theres an error
[16:56] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, what's the error?
[16:56] <sebastian_> can i paste?
[16:56] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, if it's 2 lines or less
[16:56] <sebastian_> ok
[16:56] <sebastian_> mom
[16:56] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, else, use pastebin
[16:56] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, i'm not your mom
[16:56] <sebastian_> ok
[16:57] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, i am your father.
[16:57] <sebastian_> sry im newb
[16:57] <sebastian_> :)
[16:58] <asraniel_> hello, what can i do if the networkmanager wideget does not connect to the wireless network? but always asks me again after 1-2 minutes for the password?
[16:58] <ign0ramus> asraniel_, install wicd (my .02)
[16:59] <asraniel_> ign0ramus: but then there is no GUI, and i need a gui for my gf, and it worked always very good until today
[16:59] <sebastian_> http://nopaste.codersnet.org/pastes.php?view=253 ign0ramus
[17:00] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, what command spit out that error
[17:00] <ign0ramus> asraniel_, what do you mean "there is no GUI" ?
[17:00] <sebastian_> i used the packet installer
[17:00] <sebastian_> package
[17:00] <sebastian_> dont know the right word
[17:00] <sebastian_> my english is bad
[17:00] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, what was the command that spit out this error?
[17:01] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, in french it's "paquet", which in english, is "package"
[17:01] <sebastian_> hmmm
[17:01] <asraniel_> ign0ramus: i don't know, do you need the command line to connect/manage your connections?
[17:01] <ign0ramus> asraniel_, no.  you can, but not necessary. wicd comes with a very intuitive gui
[17:02] <asraniel_> ign0ramus: great to hear. So i install wicd, remove the networkmanager widget and i'm all set?
[17:02] <ign0ramus> asraniel_, installing wicd will auto-remove networkmanager and widget
[17:02] <ign0ramus> asraniel_, so... yes. :)
[17:02] <asraniel_> ign0ramus: your my hero ;) thx
[17:02] <ign0ramus> asraniel_, don't thank me until everything works! :)
[17:03] <asraniel_> ign0ramus: one last question, does wicd save the wireless passwords? i imagine it does not use kwallet
[17:03] <ign0ramus> asraniel_, yes, it stores passwords, and can auto-connect if you so choose.
[17:04] <ign0ramus> asraniel_, sometimes, people have issues initializing it once installed... if that's the case, just restart X, and it will begin the daemon automatically
[17:04] <sebastian_> je ne sais  pas parler le francais bien ign0ramus :D i just doubleclicked on the .rpm package and wnated to install
[17:05] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, oh, sorry, thought you were french because you're calling them 'packets'... but you don't want to install .rpm packages
[17:05] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, Ubuntu packages are .deb packages
[17:05] <sebastian_> hmm
[17:05] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, let's start over... what are you trying to install?
[17:05] <sebastian_> JRE
[17:06] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[17:06] <jsoko> ?? can I just jump in with a question or is there a queue?
[17:06] <luis_> Hello
[17:06] <ign0ramus> jsoko, you are number one in queue.  please ask your question now.
[17:07] <luis_> I have a question ... I'm  just after jsoko ??
[17:07] <jsoko> Thx.  I'm getting ready to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 and i don't want to use adept to do it - last few times I used it to d/l pkgs, it failed.  What else can I use?
[17:07] <ign0ramus> luis_, you are also number one in queue.  please ask your question now.
[17:07] <ign0ramus> jsoko, Alternate Install CD
[17:07] <sebastian_> ign0ramus do you speak german? :)
[17:08] <ign0ramus> !upgrade | jsoko
[17:08] <sebastian_> i tried but also error
[17:08] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, very little. just how i speak 12 languages :)
[17:08] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, what is the error?
[17:09] <sebastian_> it needs additional packages
[17:09] <luis_> Interesting .... Ok. I have a little problem. I like to configure lirc to use my remote liek a mouse. I dont know very well how change the xorg.conf file because atcually xorg.conf are pretty clear. If I understand well, the X server autoconf oon the fly alone, not ??? So, how I say to the X server that there other mice device ??
[17:09] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, if it is asking to install them, go ahead.  if it has unresolved dependencies, then that's a separate issue
[17:10] <sebastian_> no its not asking
[17:10] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, please pastebin the output after you issue "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[17:10] <ign0ramus> luis_, i don't know much about lirc.  hopefully someone here can help
[17:11] <jsoko> next q. I have another system that also needs upgrading.  Where can I find proper command-line commands for upgrade from 8.10-9.04? thx
[17:11] <luis_> :) .. Oh I forgot , I'm using Kubuntu 9.04
[17:11] <sebastian_> ign0ramus http://nopaste.codersnet.org/pastes.php?view=254
[17:11] <ign0ramus> jsoko, see the links ubottu posted for you above.  the answer is there.
[17:12] <arpone> kpackage
[17:12] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, first, do "sudo apt-get -f install"
[17:12] <jsoko> sorry--missed the scroll.  Thank you for help, all!
[17:12] <perojok> hello, does somebody answer me how to make my SATA disk rewritable to non-root?
[17:12] <ign0ramus> jsoko, cheers
[17:13] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, that should fix broken packages.  then try to install kubuntu-restricted-extras again
[17:14] <sebastian_> ign0ramus i forgot "sudo" i just typed apt-get  -_______________-
[17:14] <sebastian_> its seems to work
[17:14] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, and you are able to install restricted extras now?
[17:14] <luis_> one more thing .... In Lirc documentation, say that I need to add  a lines to xorg.cong  of  Section "InputDevice" and a line in Section "ServerLayout" ... but the actual xorg.conf file not have these sections !!!!
[17:15] <sebastian_> ign0ramus it looks like :)
[17:15] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, gut!
[17:16] <sebastian_> ing0ramus thank you very much. you saved my day.
[17:16] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, no problem.  all i ask in return: how do you say "you're welcome" in german?
[17:19] <sebastian_> bitte schön / gerne wieder  / nichts zu danken ign0ramus. i know its a strange language :)
[17:19] <ign0ramus> luis_, xorg.conf has drastically changed in jaunty.  not sure if it will work, but you can try backing up your current xorg.conf, and then adding those sections and lines.  restore the old xorg.conf if that does not work
[17:19] <ign0ramus> sebastian_, cool.  now we both learned something :)
[17:20] <sebastian_> :D
[17:21] <luis_> I will try...
[17:21] <ign0ramus> luis_, just a quick search reveals a lot of people having issues with lirc in jaunty.  good luck!
[17:23] <luis_> I have lirc working perect in xbmc and I made a .lircrc to launch cbmc and other soft, but I need to get working lirc mouse.... I think that in the worst case, I can try to config .lircrc to emulate keyborad keys and activate mouse control via keyboard...
[17:24] <BluesKaj> what's the command for making an app the default , for instance gwenview is broken on my setup so okular seems to be the next best. How do i make it the default ?
[17:24] <ign0ramus> luis_, you obviously know more about this than i do, so you can try different configs to see what works.  just remember to create backups of your currently working files!
[17:25] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, if it's not in System Settings, you can always right-click a picture, and use Open With and choose your app, and then tick the box to remember this setting
[17:26] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, there's no 'remember this setting' option
[17:26] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, there is if you search for the executable.  instead of picking 'okular' from the menu, browse to /usr/bin, pick okular, and then make it remember the setting
[17:28] <Alethes> I just installed jaunty and I'm trying to use a static ip on my box, however, I keep getting a dhcp assigned ip
[17:28] <Alethes> in the network settings, it says "never" for the last time used on the connection I created
[17:28] <Alethes> am I doing it wrong?
[17:28] <ign0ramus> !networking | Alethes
[17:29] <Alethes> this is a kde configuration issue
[17:29] <Alethes> how do I make the settings in the Network Settings window be used?
[17:30] <ign0ramus> Alethes, maybe this will help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1110576
[17:32] <Alethes> thanks ign0ramus
[17:38] <xp-killer> how to use samba so that vista can take or read my multimedia files?
[17:41] <ign0ramus> !samba | xp-killer
[17:41] <Binary_Revolutio> hey anybody on wanna help me with a issue?
[17:41] <ign0ramus> !ask| Binary_Revolutio
[17:42] <Binary_Revolutio> Well ok I have a problem with crossover office and office 2007, the installer keeps failing any ideas?
[17:42] <Binary_Revolutio> hey gorgon
[17:42] <ign0ramus> Binary_Revolutio, that's not really a 'kubuntu' problem, but let me see if i can find something
[17:43] <Binary_Revolutio> thanks
[17:48] <ign0ramus> Binary_Revolutio, from what i've read, just click "Install Windows Software" and use the Office 2007 disc... it seems to work OOB
[18:07] <CPrgmSwR2> hi
[18:08] <m_tadeu> hi all...what is the apt line for kde4.3 beta1?
[18:08] <m_tadeu> for jaunty, I mean
[18:11] <CPrgmSwR2> Yeah, I would love to run kde 3.4 beta 2 on Jaunty when it comes up since karmic koala completely screws up my system
[18:23] <ahmad_> any one work with eclips ?
[18:32] <roberto7680> hola
[18:33] <toter> I have a question! Is Firefox the ONLY browser that can route DNS traffic through an SSH SOCKS5 Proxy? I created an SSH tunnel and it seems that Firefox is the only one that have this option
[18:35] <toter> When I try another browser, the HTTP traffic on wireshark shows that it is encrypted, but the DNS information is not!
[18:38] <k4_k4> hi
[18:39] <k4_k4> i changed setting in kde4.3 to "start with clean session" instead of "restore last ssession" and i get this : http://imagebin.ca/view/cWzQIlj.html
[18:39] <k4_k4> can someone comfirm or verify this ?
[18:39] <k4_k4> never seen this start menu before
[18:43] <asobi> anyone can help me with bash scripting?
[18:43] <asobi> trying to bulk cat files
[18:47] <ahmad_> toter: have u tried chrome ?
[18:48] <solid_liq> !ping
[18:57] <toter> ahmad: google chrome for linux (version 3.0.183.1 at least) does not have the option to route the traffic to an SSH tunnel.
[19:04] <mamont> so the DVD image doesn't really have anything extra except i18n stuff?
[19:20] <adasz> how i get electric sheep in the fullscreen?
[19:36] <ubuntu> !info electricsheep karmic
[19:47] <dps> Quick question: How do I disable autologin? I want to be able to login as root did configure (/etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc) but need to disable autologin as current user
[19:48] <ubuntu> dps: it will be in the settings for KDM in system settings
[19:48] <dps> ubuntu: So its the same file /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc ??
[19:49] <dps> cant find any values like Autologin=false etc
[19:49] <ubuntu> Probably
[19:49] <robinr> can't you press esc or something just before login happens
[19:50] <robinr> or log out after login
[19:50] <robinr> that did work in KDE3
[19:51] <dps> got it AutoLoginEnable=true
[19:51] <dps> change to false - ill try and reboot wish me luck :-)
[19:51] <christian_> dfsdf
[19:57] <riccardo> |lista
[20:08] <tightdrunken> how do i get in other chans
[20:33] <harald_> wacom bamboo tablet usb has problems with scrolling
[20:33] <harald_> using the scroll ring I can only scroll upwards but not downwards :(
[20:49] <p-f> I have two Xorg instances running, one started with kdm, the other with 'startx -- :2'. If I play music in :1, it works fine. If I switch to :2, the music output stops. Why?
[20:55] <ccatter> www.kubuntu.de
[20:55] <crp> hello world...
[20:59] <mefisto__> p-f: does it continue to play if you switch back to :1 ?
[21:00] <p-f> mefisto__, yup, with some glitches for about half a second
[21:02] <boomer__> saludos.... mejor irc para ubuntu...
[21:03] <mefisto__> p-f: is playing the music from console an option for you? that would probably play regarless of which X you're in
[21:05] <mefisto__> p-f: from a virtual terminal, that is. as in ctrl-alt-F1
[21:05] <jaunty> Hi, I cannot dist-upgrade http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m59860954
[21:06] <p-f> mefisto__, it's not exactly an option, my player is X only
[21:10] <sourcemaker> which irc client is better: quassel or konversation?
[21:11] <mefisto__> p-f: you can use mplayer from commandline
[21:13] <p-f> mefisto__, mplayer doesn't really have the same feature set as amarok 1.4...
[21:13] <p-f> mefisto__, but I guess it's better than nothing
[21:14] <mefisto__> p-f: there may be some X setting you can change, but I don't have a clue so all I can offer is the commandline workaround. Not absolutely sure that will work either, but it probably will
[21:15] <ionelbilk> hy
[21:16] <p-f> mefisto__, I was just sort of hoping that that something I used to be able to do five years ago on crappy hardware would be possible now :)
[21:17] <sigma915> how do i get kde4 to automatically browse usb flash drives like it does with cd's? i don't want to click on them in the device applet to be able to browse them. kde3 did it but not kde4 i see
[21:18] <mefisto__> sigma915: it's the same for cd's isn't it?
[21:19] <sigma915> mefisto__: nope cd's are automatically browsable in kde4 as well. i want to have the same happen with flashdrives but don't know how
[21:21] <mefisto__> sigma915: did you do anything to get cd's to be automatically browsable? what do you mean by "automatically" exactly? are cd's automounted when inserted? they don't automount on my kde
[21:22] <mefisto__> sigma915: both cd's and usb drives show up in the device notifer applet on mine
[21:24] <sigma915> mefisto__: yeah same for me. what i mean is if you put a cd in the drive and go to /media/cdrom the contents appear automatically without you clicking anything in the device notifier. but you can't do that with a flash drive
[21:25] <m_tadeu> hi all....how can I hide the "lost+found" in dolphin?
[21:25] <sigma915> m_tadeu: i don't think that is a good idea
[21:26] <mefisto__> sigma915: I see what you mean
[21:26] <m_tadeu> sigma915: why?
[21:27] <m_tadeu> I don't want to remove it....just searching for a way to filter the view on dolphin
[21:27] <sigma915> m_tadeu: im pretty sure thats a system file
[21:28] <sigma915> m_tadeu: what i do is create a folder and put everything in it. and then never open the root again
[21:28] <m_tadeu> sigma915: it is....I think it's where corrupt files go
[21:29] <m_tadeu> sigma915: that's not a bad idea
[21:29] <sigma915> m_tadeu: nothing is hard linked so its easy to implement
[21:31] <m_tadeu> I think I'm gonna post a wish for dolphin.....filters would be a cool feature, I guess
[21:35] <oblique65> ?
[21:45] <mefisto__> sigma915 still here?
[21:45] <mefisto__> guess not
[21:52] <LoreCaster> anyone have any experience setting up windows-only printers in linux? can i use wine of vbox? (specifically Canon ImageCLASS D760)
[22:12] <zos> question: why doesn't upon executing sudo -s command the script /root/.bashrc doesn't get executed as well?
[22:13] <myself> how do i set the default browser to firefox
[22:14] <mefisto__> myself: systemsettings > default applications
[22:15] <trappist> !universe
[22:16] <myself> how do i change the boot screen? I want to use KDE but i want the on and off boot screens to say Ubuntu
[22:16] <tr_hawk> zos: have you tried -i (simulate initial login) or -H (set HOME environment)?
[22:16] <zos> tr_hawk: no, I can try. thanks for the reply
[22:18] <zos> it works, thanks! I made modifications to the file, so that I get  a red prompt whenever I do something as root!
[22:20] <mefisto__> myself: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[22:21] <tr_hawk> zos: man pages are often underestimated :-)
[22:21] <myself> it says there are no alternatives
[22:21] <myself> i mean im pretty sure i have the original Ubuntu screen installed
[22:21] <myself> too
[22:21] <myself> its just that i recently installed KDE too
[22:21] <myself> amnd i want it to say Ubuntu  for everything, intead of Kubuntu for everything, when i turn on and off the comptuer
[22:21] <mefisto__> myself: is usplash-theme-ubuntu installed?
[22:21] <zos> tr_hawk: I read them just now!
[22:22] <myself> yes it is
[22:22] <myself> so do i remove the kubuntu splash screen then?
[22:22] <myself> Usplash-theme-kubuntu
[22:22] <myself> if i only want it to be the ubuntu one?
[22:23] <mefisto__> does /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-ubuntu.so exist?
[22:24] <myself> why cannot i just type the path name in Dolphin
[22:25] <myself> okay i dfound it
[22:25] <mefisto__> /usr/lib/usplash ?
[22:25] <myself> yeah
[22:25] <myself> ubunut exists
[22:25] <myself> Usplash-theme-kubuntu <----so can i just remove that?
[22:25] <mefisto__> usplash-theme-ubuntu.so is there?
[22:25] <myself> yeah
[22:26] <mefisto__> well that update-alternatives command should let you choose which one to use
[22:26] <myself> No alternatives for usplash-artowrk.so.
[22:28] <myself> hmmm?
[22:28] <myself> :)
[22:29] <mefisto__> myself: try this: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-ubuntu.so /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so
[22:29] <myself> what will that do
[22:30] <mefisto__> myself: if you do ls -l /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so you'll see that it is a link to /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-kubuntu.so
[22:31] <mefisto__> the ln -s command will link it to the ubuntu one instead
[22:31] <mefisto__> that update-alternatives command should do that for you. don't know why it's not working
[22:32] <myself> ln: creating symbolic link `/etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so': File exists
[22:32] <mefisto__> ah, of course it does
[22:33] <mefisto__> sudo rm /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so will remove it
[22:33] <myself> okaycool
[22:33] <myself> i did those two commands
[22:33] <myself> so now, the splash screen...should be ubuntu .. yeA?
[22:34] <myself> wait
[22:34] <myself> but why did i just do this in "alternatives"
[22:34] <myself> if the files are in /usr/lib/usplash
[22:34] <mefisto__>  ls -l /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so shows it now links to /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-ubuntu.so ?
[22:35] <myself> yes it does
[22:35] <mefisto__> the files in /etc/alternatives are all links to other files. so you can choose what you want as default
[22:35] <myself> now what do i do :)
[22:35] <mefisto__> I think it should work now
[22:35] <myself> okay lemme try it brb
[22:37] <ibou> how to open a dvd movie manually ?
[22:38] <myself> it didnt work
[22:38] <mefisto__> myself: so did you still see the kubuntu splash?
[22:38] <myself> yes
[22:38] <mefisto__> hmm
[22:38] <lovre> hi all. I wonder if its possible to somehow run another OS (windows) in virtual machine software, but in another terminal. Lets say i run Kubuntu under CTRL+ALT+F7, and i would like to run Windows (virtualy) under CTRL+ALT+F1, so i can quickly switch between the two, and also have both in fullscreen? Is this possible?
[22:39] <mefisto__> myself: maybe try   sudo apt-get install usplash-theme-ubuntu
[22:39] <myself> its already installed
[22:39] <mefisto__> myself: maybe try   sudo apt-get install --reinstall usplash-theme-ubuntu
[22:40] <coz_> hey guys... where would kde wallpapers be located?
[22:40] <myself> okay brb
[22:40] <myself> thank you hopefully thisll work
[22:42] <coz_> also where are the splash screens located for editing?
[22:42] <tr_hawk> coz_: kde4?
[22:42] <coz_> yes
[22:42] <coz_> tr_hawk,  yes
[22:42] <coz_> 4.2.4
[22:43] <tr_hawk> coz_: depends on theming i'd guess: e.g. /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/oxygen
[22:43] <myself> okay it worked..soo..  can I get rid of that etc/alternatives stuff?
[22:43] <coz_> ok let me check thanks
[22:45] <myself> hey actually
[22:46] <mefisto__> myself: no, that needs to be there. you can remove usplash-theme-kubuntu if you want
[22:46] <myself> i see
[22:46] <myself> i got a question--how do i make it so in the file browser
[22:46] <myself> i click the file twice instead of once to open it
[22:47] <myself> wait found it
[22:48] <tr_hawk> lovre: do you need virtual terminal or can you live with desktop (run qemu/vmware in fullscreen on different desktops)?
[22:50] <namer> hi, i need some help to install kubuntu inside windows, i downloaded the dvd image and uninstalled my ubunutu installation, but now i can not install kubuntu via the dvd image inside XP SP3
[22:55] <tr_hawk> namer: what do you mean with "inside windows"? Wubi?
[22:55] <namer> YEAH
[22:56] <namer> sorry 4 caps
[22:57] <mefisto__> !wubi
[23:01] <tr_hawk> namer: sorry, no experience on this side with wubi: I think you need to downlowd wubi and place your image inside the installer dir.
[23:01] <namer> i did, but i counter a strange error downloading metalinks!!!!
[23:02] <myself> hey the weather applet LCD weather in Kubuntu does not show my local weather, the one in ubuntu does...how do i fix this
[23:02] <namer> or it just downloads the iso image of the kubuntu-dektop.iso rateger thatn using the dvd image
[23:04] <mefisto__> myself: I use this weather applet: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/yaWP+(Yet+Another+Weather+Plasmoid)?content=94106
[23:05] <mefisto__> myself: got it from here: https://launchpad.net/~samrog131/+archive/ppa
[23:05] <myself> oh okay, lemme check it out
[23:06] <myself> wait so what exactly do i do
[23:06] <tr_hawk> namer: have you tried a reboot after wubi? Maybe you get a new boot dialog to select the newly installed kubuntu?
[23:06] <mefisto__> myself: well, first add that samrog131 ppa to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:07] <myself> plasma-widget-yawp
[23:07] <namer> yup i tried, but when mounting the dvd image with daemon tools, i get wubi without install inside windows!!
[23:07] <mefisto__> myself: then sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-yawp
[23:07] <myself> i see
[23:07] <mefisto__> myself: adding the ppa to sources.list is explained on the page I linked to. ask if you can't figure it out
[23:08] <myself> do i have to add the key?
[23:08] <solifugus> I haven't done a dual-boot since 1998 with win95..  is it still possible to shrink and cut up a winxp partition?
[23:09] <mefisto__> myself: it's not necessary, but if you don't a warning will be shown about the source you're downloading from
[23:09] <solifugus> I remember an app somelike "fips".. not sure exactly what it was called.
[23:10] <myself> hey so i added those lines to my sources
[23:10] <myself> and its wont find the package
[23:10] <myself> E: Couldn't find package plasma-widget-yawp
[23:10] <alarm> hello, i want to set alt+shift as hot keys for changing the language layout . i read that by Editing  the file ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals and changing to : Switch to Next Keyboard Layout=Alt+Shift_L;Alt+Shift_R
[23:10] <alarm> should work. but there is no line with "Switch to Next Keyboard Layou"
[23:10] <alarm> in that file
[23:10] <mefisto__> myself: did you add the ppa to /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[23:10] <alarm> how can i change the layout hot keys to alt-shitf ?
[23:11] <tr_hawk> namer: is there a wubi inside the image? Have you tried starting this one?
[23:11] <myself> is the ppa those two lines
[23:11] <myself> deb http
[23:11] <myself> etc
[23:11] <myself> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/samrog131/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
[23:11] <myself> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/samrog131/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
[23:11] <myself> i added those
[23:11] <mefisto__> myself: you could also just download it directly from that page and install it, but you won't get updates
[23:11] <myself> wait but i added those two lines, thats the ppa right?
[23:12] <mefisto__> myself: do you have jaunty?
[23:12] <myself> yes
[23:12] <mefisto__> change karmic to jaunty
[23:12] <myself> maybe i gotta sign the key???
[23:12] <myself> it actaully says jaunty in the sources.list
[23:12] <myself> i think i just refreshed the page
[23:12] <myself> maybe i gotta add the key?
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> myself: do you have the gpg error?
[23:13] <myself> no error
[23:13] <mefisto__> myself: like I said, if you don't you'll get a warning, but it will still install
[23:13] <mefisto__> after changing sources.list, do a apt-get update
[23:14] <tr_hawk> solifugus: I used gparted for shrinking and repartitioning (after backup...): have a try with e.g. systemrescuecd (on a stick...)
[23:15] <alarm> any ideas with the layout hot keys ? how i can make kde 4 accept alt-shift ?
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut
[23:15] <myself> actually
[23:16] <myself> not adding the ppa manually it worked
[23:16] <myself> i mean, i used to add stuff w/ text editor but for some reason it didnt work w/ text editor this time
[23:16] <alarm> ActionParsnip,  in the settings it doesnt allow me to have the alt-shift combination
[23:17] <alarm> !keyboard
[23:17] <myself> hey mefisto__ under what menu bar is this weather thing installed?
[23:18] <mefisto__> myself: it's an applet/plasmoid, so you have to add it to your desktop or taskbar. it's not in the menu
[23:19] <myself> whats it called
[23:19] <myself> i cant find it
[23:20] <MIrrorIMage> Hi all! I accidentally closed my Desktop widget/plasmoid and was wondering how to restore it. Thx!
[23:20] <mefisto__> myself: right-click the lcd weather one, go to panel options, add widget
[23:20] <myself> wait
[23:20] <myself> its caled YAWP
[23:20] <myself> heheheh
[23:20] <mefisto__> ok click add widget, or drag it to where you want it to be
[23:20] <alarm> ActionParsnip, just checked it again on the regional settings i dont have the option to change to alt-shift
[23:20] <myself> this is really good, thank you
[23:21] <myself> lol
[23:21] <myself> way to call it "imperial"
[23:21] <myself> makes me guilty about using it
[23:21] <myself> imperial degrees
[23:21] <myself> instead of farenheit
[23:22] <mefisto__> well there are other things like windspeed, etc. if it's not metric, it's imperial
[23:22] <myself> whats imperial mean
[23:23] <mefisto__> in this context, it means not metric system
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> http://www.google.co.uk/url?q=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_units&ei=5z0sSqOnGZa8jAex07H3Cg&sa=X&oi=spellmeleon_result&resnum=1&ct=result&usg=AFQjCNHiCI-3hL6f-eOcrK8IYLH2FHg8EQ
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> oops, stupid google, my bad
[23:23] <mefisto__> I think it refers to the British Empire, but the UK uses metric system now
[23:24] <rolingstoned> ok
[23:24] <myself> yeah but its referring to like the USA being imperialistic and stuff
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> we use both ;
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[23:24] <mefisto__> myself: well...
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> myself: its not, its just a definition of measurement units
[23:24] <rolingstoned> yhe new world order is stil active
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> myself: its like using feet and inches (Metric) or feet and inches (Imperial) (or it may be the other way round)
[23:25] <myself> feet and inches is imperial, but why is it called imperial?
[23:25] <mefisto__> the british empire used to use it, and they were definitely imperial
[23:26] <myself> i see
[23:26] <mefisto__> whereas europe used metric system
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> we do use both though, its entirely individual
[23:26] <mefisto__> but much of europe was (or wanted to be) imperial too :)
[23:28] <myself> empires are evil
[23:34] <ubuntu> can anyone help me with an smb problem, i have the folder set for full control for everyone but i cannot write to the folder
[23:34] <ubuntu> !smb
[23:40] <namer> i need help to install kubuntu on sp3 after i un installed my ubuntu 9.04
[23:40] <namer> xp sp3 *
[23:49] <einstein__> hi
[23:50] <namer> any one can help to solve this wubi nasty errors?
[23:53] <alakhia> what is the nasty error? I don't use wubi but I can try anyway