[00:48] <yoasif> heya guys
[03:19] <ace> hello peeps, anyone here with Intel Atom N280?
[04:58] <ikus060> Hi all, How the new version of Ubuntu work out with the radeon card ?
[06:25] <bullgard4> ikonia: Ubuntu 9.04 works very well with my Radeon graphics chip.
[06:26] <crdlb> ikus060 is no longer with us :)
[06:27] <bullgard4> crdlb: imatience is a bad habit.
[06:27] <bullgard4> s/imatience/impatience/
[06:28] <crdlb> especially without saying goodbye :(
[08:13] <tgpraveen2> will we have all the devicekit goodies by alpha 2
[08:14] <RAOF> For what values of 'goodies'?
[08:15] <RAOF> We've had various devicekit pieces for ages; devicekit & devicekit power for the gnome-power-manager, and some part of gnome recently grew a dependency on devicekit-disks.
[08:16] <RAOF> I think the rest of that sort of processing is heading into udev.
[08:19] <tgpraveen2> RAOF: yeah its that udev part that I was asking abt
[08:19] <tgpraveen2> I think I read a blog post stating that it was in the process of getting merged
[08:20] <tgpraveen2> don't know how far it has progressed
[09:03] <Guest83126> hi
[09:03] <TheInfinity> hiho
[09:03] <Guest83126> what is this room ?
[09:04] <Guest83126> for the next release only ?
[09:04] <rww> Guest83126: correct. See the channel topic.
[11:22] <schmidtm> hey guys i have a problem with the latest updates for mercurial. it cannot be installed as it depends on python <2.6.
[11:26] <kklimonda> report a bug
[11:26] <kklimonda> already reported bug 383109
[12:23] <geser> and also already a fix uploaded
[15:08] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[15:12] <BluesKaj>  are you guys having any luck with K3B and the K3b MAD Mp3 decoder plugin ? I've installed what seems to be the necessary libs, but I still get the error message "no mp3 decoder plugin" . Is this just a path problem or ?
[15:30] <wd4lko> anybody have floppy drive light on after upgrade ?
[15:33] <BluesKaj> wd4lko, insert a floppy then remove it , see what happens
[15:35] <wd4lko> i tried that before and once it shut it off but now it just stays on
[15:36] <wd4lko> when booting it checks the floppy about 3 times, then stays on !
[15:39] <wd4lko> i guess i'm the only one, i don't see anything on the forums
[15:43] <chrissturm> what indexing will karmic use by default? tracker or beagle?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> looks optional , chrissturm
[16:35] <chrissturm> can the karmic installer resize ext4 partitions?
[16:37] <ikonia> yes
[16:37] <ikonia> the 9.04 should be able to also
[16:52] <cemunal> is ext4 default?
[16:52] <ikonia> no
[16:52] <ikonia> as you where told
[16:52] <ikonia> cemunal: if yoiu check the notes in the topic you'll get a link to more information
[16:53] <cemunal> ikonia: thanks
[16:56] <Twigathy> weirdness - I'm getting errors to do with fd0, complaints that it can't read sector 0...
[16:56] <Twigathy> I don't even have a floopy disk drive
[16:57] <Twigathy> Do I need to disable it in BIOS to stop the kernel going "ARGH! NO FLOPPIES!" or is there a proper fix?
[16:58] <ikonia> Twigathy: should only do that on boot - sometimes get it with flash card readers
[16:59] <Twigathy> hm, I do have a flash card reader...
[16:59] <Twigathy> I'll try booting with it unplugged when I get back home :)
[17:06] <cemunal> if i install a command line system; does karmic ask me for ext4?
[17:06] <ikonia> cemunal: a gui does not dictate the file system
[17:08] <BluesKaj> !MAD Mp3
[17:08] <cemunal> how can i install karmic on an ext4 with http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/karmic-alternate-i386.iso
[17:09] <ikonia> cemunal: same way as 9,04
[17:09] <BluesKaj> cemunal, i tried Karmic on ext4 with little success , lotsa breakage ... missing dependencies ...don't ask me why > Just thought I'd warn you about my experience
[17:10] <ikonia> it's early development
[17:11] <cemunal> but it is default on F11; if it is unstable...
[17:12] <ikonia> 1.) fedora has nothing to do with ubuntu 2.) I didn't say ext4 was unstable - I meant 9.10 is early development 3.) ext4 is in 9.04
[17:12] <cemunal> :)
[17:12] <cemunal> ok
[17:13] <cemunal> 4?
[17:13] <ikonia> 4 what ?
[17:14] <cemunal> 1.) ... 2.)... 3.)...
[17:16] <ikonia> ?
[17:16] <ikonia> ooh
[17:16] <ikonia> I see, there is no 4
[17:16] <cemunal> ikonia: thanks for ur answers
[17:16] <ikonia> no problme
[18:06] <CPrgmSwR2> Hi, is the alpha version still pretty unstable?
[18:06] <BUGabundo> ikonia: ping
[18:06] <BUGabundo> ikonia: is it fine now ?
[18:09] <CPrgmSwR2> BUGabundo: Out of couriousity, is what fine?
[18:12] <BUGabundo> hi everyone
[18:14] <yoasif> hi
[18:18] <BUGabundo> hey yoasif
[18:18] <yoasif> hows it going BUGabundo
[18:18] <BUGabundo> nice
[18:18] <BUGabundo> you ?
[18:19] <BUGabundo> what did I miss this past week?
[18:22] <yoasif> i havent really been here either heh
[18:23] <yoasif> i think karmic is showing bugs in the nvidia driver, but i didnt see em in jaunty, so it's lame :(
[18:24] <BUGabundo> what bugs?
[18:24] <BUGabundo> wffm
[18:24] <yoasif> eh visual corruption in eog, xchat-gnome, etc
[18:25] <BUGabundo> not here
[18:25] <BUGabundo> have you enabled the workarounds on CSSM ?
[18:26] <BUGabundo> yoasif: Open ccsm -> Choose category Utility -> Workarounds -> [x] Force synchronisation between X and GLX
[18:27] <yoasif> BUGabundo: cool, giving it a shot
[18:27] <yoasif> BUGabundo: if that fixes is, is it a bug in compiz?
[18:28] <BUGabundo> its a know bug
[18:28] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/269904
[18:31] <yoasif> ahh wow... more known bugs
[18:31] <yoasif> should i report that it is affecting me in karmic?
[18:31] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: welcome back ;)
[18:33] <BUGabundo> thanks kklimonda. missed you all
[18:33] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/359392
[18:33] <BUGabundo> one of the last comments just fixed my flashing prob in fullscreen
[18:33] <BUGabundo> WOOT
[18:34] <yoasif> BUGabundo: Force synchronisation between X and GLX.... it takes effect immediately right?
[18:34] <BUGabundo> think so
[18:35] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: hmm.. this fix for flashing screen sounds nice
[18:35] <BUGabundo> yep
[18:35] <BUGabundo> I use a lot of apps in fullscreen
[18:35] <BUGabundo> to make me not losse attention
[18:35] <BUGabundo> and have extra screen
[18:35] <BUGabundo> since this is a 13" screen
[18:39] <BUGabundo> brb grabbing something to eat
[18:44] <yoasif_> yay just disabled compiz, let's see if my laptop stops overheating now!
[18:49] <BUGabundo> yoasif: humm seems not?
[18:50] <BUGabundo> you are better of, by cleaning the dust and chaning CPU thermal mass
[18:53] <yoasif> BUGabundo: pretty new laptop... cleaned dust off... havent changed the thermal paste
[18:53] <yoasif> but compiz was causing those annoying visual bugs
[18:53] <yoasif> soo... i'm better off with it off i think
[18:54] <BUGabundo> I luv compiz
[18:54] <BUGabundo> don't care what ppl say
[18:54] <BUGabundo> for me it works
[18:54] <BUGabundo> its not just eye candy
[18:54] <yoasif> i could try metacity compositing again
[18:55] <yoasif> what does it do that's not just eye candy?
[18:56]  * Twigathy uses XFCE with no compiz stuff, no desktop icons, no task switcher bar and a very small system tray ... >_<
[18:56] <Twigathy> lightweight, quick and quite pretty
[18:57] <BUGabundo> Twigathy: ever hear of CLI? its nice too
[18:57] <Twigathy> x_x
[18:58] <Twigathy> I do use screen quite a lot
[18:58] <SwedeMike> mmm, screen.
[18:58] <BUGabundo> yoasif: humm Cube, fullscreen, zoom, wind thumbnails, fire, rain, etc
[18:58] <Twigathy> This session is screen with 11 windows in, one of which has another screen inside c_c
[18:58]  * BUGabundo is ashamed of admitting he never used screen :(
[18:58] <Twigathy> handy really, email, torrents, irc, shells to $PLACES all in one place :)
[18:59] <Twigathy> aww
[18:59] <SwedeMike> I started using screen in 1994, and the amount of seconds since then I have not had a screen running is a very very tiny fraction of that time
[18:59] <Twigathy> *grin*
[18:59] <Twigathy> It's *so* useful :O
[19:00] <SwedeMike> and it has changed very little since then, perfection already back then
[19:00] <SwedeMike> typical util that did what it needed and hasn't bloated over time
[19:39] <popey> !logs
[20:22] <Eaglesn> is karmic still using usplash?
[22:41] <poseidon> Is the sun-java6-doc package broken in JJ as well?
[22:45] <BUGabundo> hi poseidon
[22:45] <poseidon> hi
[22:45] <BUGabundo> you are better asking that on #ubuntu
[22:46] <BUGabundo>  #ubuntu+1 is for Karmic
[22:46] <poseidon> I'm using karmic
[22:46] <poseidon> I think the package fails to install correctly on both versions.  I was using JJ not long ago
[22:52] <BUGabundo> ah ok
[22:52] <BUGabundo> let me check
[22:53] <BUGabundo> seems to install fine
[22:53] <Twigathy> It's installed [and working] here too (
[23:04] <poseidon> http://pastebin.com/d137c69c4
[23:04] <poseidon> Do you have to download it before you install it.  This seems a bit redundant
[23:18] <kklimonda> welcome to the awesome world of paranoid licenses..
[23:21] <poseidon> Is java-doc licensed so that it can't be in the master repos?
[23:26] <rww> poseidon: yes, it is
[23:26] <kklimonda> that's the most likely cause
[23:33] <hggdh> as far as I can remember, this is the case. We cannot provide the -doc ourselves, the user must get it
[23:43] <rww> The license itself is at http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/legal/license.html, I think. Plenty of non-free there.