| RoAkSoAx | heya guys... I want to package from scratch a program that contains a kernel module and and a user space daemon. When issuing dh_make, and selecting the type of package.. what should I select? | 00:24 |
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| jmarsden | RoAkSoAx: I suspect that whichever you pick you'll end up making a lot of changes to the resulting template files from dh_make -- mabe try both and use the one that looks closest to what you think you'll want? | 00:27 |
| RoAkSoAx | jmarsden, ok thanks :) | 00:28 |
| directhex | i suspect dh_make is 101% useless for this kind of package | 00:31 |
| directhex | you want to look at a package which makes use of dkms, and rip off the contents of its debian/ folder | 00:31 |
| RoAkSoAx | ok | 00:36 |
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| pythonic | hi, revu says Package is for "unstable" but only packages for "karmic" are currently accepted. | 09:24 |
| jmarsden | pythonic: Did you upload a package to REVU that had "unstable" in the debian/changelog when it should have said "unstable"? In the top line of the changelog file? | 09:26 |
| pythonic | right, it has unstable, should that be karmic (or whatever the next one is)? | 09:26 |
| loic-m | pythonic: unstable is for Debian, replace it with karmic and use a -0ubuntu1 version number | 09:27 |
| loic-m | pythonic: you just need need to edit that in the changelog (version + distribution) | 09:27 |
| pythonic | ok, i have 0ubuntu1 version.. karmic is just the next release right? do i update the package when karmic is released to whatever the next release is? | 09:27 |
| pythonic | (if the package is not accepted before karmic releases) | 09:28 |
| jmarsden | Yes, as far as I know. | 09:29 |
| pythonic | ok, thanks | 09:30 |
| pythonic | i need to bump the version to 0ubuntu2 etc. for this right? | 09:30 |
| loic-m | nope | 09:33 |
| pythonic | oh, ok, when do i bump version numbers? | 09:34 |
| loic-m | as long as the package isn't accepted, you only get one entry in the changelog - 0ubuntu1 for new pkg not in Debian | 09:34 |
| loic-m | pythonic: it's different from Debian, where you document your changes and bump the version even when the package hasn't been accepted yet | 09:35 |
| pythonic | i see.. i already have a package or two at 0ubuntu2. should i change those to 0ubuntu1? | 09:35 |
| loic-m | pythonic: once the package enter the repos, you bump the version number when you release a new version or modify the packaging | 09:35 |
| loic-m | pythonic: are they on REVU? | 09:36 |
| pythonic | yes | 09:36 |
| loic-m | Then AFAIK it should be 0ubuntu1 with only one changelog entry (you can regroup info from the two entries you have at the moment if it's relevant) | 09:36 |
| pythonic | ok, thanks | 09:37 |
| loic-m | you're welcome | 09:40 |
| pythonic | ok, fixed now | 09:52 |
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| davideotape | Hi guys :) | 11:34 |
| davideotape | Does anyone know how I can download the french source for https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iat when I'm on an english computer? | 11:35 |
| directhex | davideotape, french source? | 11:38 |
| davideotape | directhex: Well, the french translation of that package | 11:39 |
| davideotape | If it helps, this is the bug I'm working on: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iat/+bug/379290 | 11:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 379290 in iat "typo in french description of iat" [Undecided,In progress] | 11:39 |
| iulian | davideotape: apt-get source <pkg> | 11:46 |
| davideotape | iulian: That gets me the source with the English translation, which doesn't' have the French description in it | 11:48 |
| kklimonda | could any MOTU sponsor bug 383109? | 11:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 383109 in mercurial "Mercurial needs to be rebuilt for Python 2.6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/383109 | 11:48 |
| davideotape | kklimonda: Does that bug not need to be set to confirmed now you've provided a patch? | 11:50 |
| kklimonda | davideotape: good point. | 11:51 |
| iulian | davideotape: That's odd. I have no idea, sorry. I couldn't find any translation in the source package. | 11:51 |
| directhex | the description as in "apt-cache show" description? | 11:52 |
| iulian | directhex: Yea, it seems so, take a peek at the bug report. | 11:53 |
| davideotape | directhex: Yes, but the french description | 11:53 |
| directhex | right, i didn't think ubuntu used that | 11:56 |
| directhex | check rosetta? | 11:56 |
| davideotape | directhex: iat doesn't seem to use rosetta (ie. https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/iat) doesn't exist | 12:01 |
| pochu | only packages in main do | 12:06 |
| geser | kklimonda: looking at your debdiff: how will this change fix the dependencies on python itself? | 12:06 |
| kklimonda | geser: right now python 2.6 modules are installed in /usr/local/... | 12:07 |
| davideotape | pochu: I've found http://packages.debian.org/lenny/iat . What does debian use for it's translations? | 12:07 |
| kklimonda | geser: because of that they aren't even installed in package. | 12:07 |
| pochu | davideotape: is it translated at all? | 12:08 |
| geser | kklimonda: the current python packaging helper know about that and move the files around, see http://launchpadlibrarian.net/27399626/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.mercurial_1.2.1-3_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz | 12:08 |
| davideotape | pochu: It must be, as the bug reporter ( https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iat ) says that they are using the french version | 12:08 |
| kklimonda | geser: but not modules compiled into .so | 12:09 |
| pochu | oh | 12:09 |
| geser | ah, I guess I begin to understand | 12:09 |
| pochu | davideotape: it's not the program that is translated, but the description :-) | 12:10 |
| kklimonda | geser: copying build/lib.linux-i686-2.6/mercurial/base85.so -> /build/buildd/mercurial-1.2.1/debian/tmp/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/mercurial - they go here and then aren't in resulting package at all. | 12:10 |
| geser | right | 12:10 |
| kklimonda | geser: and because of that /usr/bin/hg has python2.5 hardcoded as interpreter | 12:10 |
| davideotape | pochu: Okay. So where about are descriptions translated for ubuntu then? | 12:10 |
| pochu | davideotape: ddtp in Debian | 12:12 |
| davideotape | pochu: So that bug is one that would need to be fixed in debian, and passed downstream? | 12:12 |
| pochu | davideotape: you should check if the typo is in Debian, and if so, the answer is yes | 12:13 |
| pochu | I think there's something similar to ddtp in Ubuntu, but am not sure what it is | 12:13 |
| davideotape | pochu: Thanks, I'll go and have a look now :) | 12:15 |
| geser | kklimonda: thanks, uploaded (with one additional change) | 12:19 |
| pochu | kklimonda: a FTBFS in Ubuntu that doesn't happen in Debian isn't a serious bug in Debian (re mercurial) | 12:25 |
| kklimonda | pochu: heh, my bad - I though about it too late. | 12:26 |
| pochu | you can still lower it :) | 12:28 |
| DktrKranz | pochu, at least for now :)= | 12:30 |
| pochu | DktrKranz: and hopefully not for a long time :-) | 12:30 |
| * DktrKranz accepts bets | 12:30 | |
| mib_oujn9hi1 | hey can anyone help me create a simple meta package | 12:35 |
| kklimonda | pochu: can I send an email with Severity: minor in first line and then comment? debian bts is really confusing sometimes.. ;) | 12:36 |
| DktrKranz | kklimonda, send one with severity bugnumber wishlist to control@bugs.debian.org instead | 12:36 |
| pochu | or use the 'bts' command :) | 12:37 |
| kklimonda | yeah, it's much easier :) | 12:41 |
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| goshawk | hi | 13:45 |
| goshawk | there is a problem with this package | 13:51 |
| goshawk | http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/mercurial | 13:52 |
| goshawk | i can't install on karmic | 13:52 |
| goshawk | due to dependency error | 13:52 |
| goshawk | python < 2.6 | 13:52 |
| goshawk | but debian/control says : +Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, ${python:Depends}, ucf (>= 2.0020), | 13:53 |
| goshawk | + mercurial-common (= ${source:Version}) | 13:53 |
| cody-somerville | goshawk, Whats your question exactly? | 13:54 |
| goshawk | have python been updated recently that a recompile of mercurial is needed? | 13:55 |
| pochu | goshawk: the fix has already been uploaded | 13:55 |
| pochu | what version of mercurial are you trying to install? | 13:55 |
| goshawk | mercurial (1.2.1-3 | 13:55 |
| goshawk | official from karmic | 13:56 |
| goshawk | i'm in karmic | 13:56 |
| pochu | goshawk: 1.2.1-3ubuntu1 fixes it | 13:56 |
| pochu | so just wait until it appears in your mirror | 13:56 |
| goshawk | oki :) | 13:56 |
| goshawk | pochu: as long as you know, was it just a recompiling problem or a probem in the control or rules (i'm the one that filled the sync for that package, this is why i wanna know) | 13:58 |
| goshawk | *sync bug | 13:58 |
| pochu | goshawk: it needed some adjustements to build with 2.6 | 14:18 |
| goshawk | pochu: thx | 14:20 |
| siretart | FYI: I've just uploaded debian's mplayer uploaded to ubuntu | 14:45 |
| aravindoo | hello everyone | 15:58 |
| aravindoo | i am new. how do i join motu | 15:59 |
| hyperair | !motu | 16:02 |
| ubottu | motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | 16:02 |
| Laney | there's a getting involved link in the topic | 16:02 |
| aravindoo | thank for info guys | 16:04 |
| hyperair | have fun | 16:09 |
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| thjc | Hi all, I am working on packaging a new library (gearbox) for ubuntu. The library uses cmake and produces a python extension, however doesnt use distutils | 17:25 |
| thjc | I am on good terms with the developers so can get changes made to the build system, what is the recommended way of dealing with python extensions with cmake? | 17:26 |
| hyperair | er. use their build system? | 17:27 |
| hyperair | actually the recommended way of dealing with python extensions is using distutils | 17:27 |
| hyperair | i suggest you drop by #debian-python and ask the guys there | 17:27 |
| hyperair | in OFTC, by the way | 17:27 |
| thjc | okay will do | 17:30 |
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| kklimonda | When I'm updating package in ubuntu and, between time I have prepared debdiff and it was sponsored by developer, new version is released can I keep in changelog entry about previous one that didn't make it to ubuntu? | 19:56 |
| kklimonda | I keep changes in bzr repository so reverting it because update didn't happen is going to be pain in the ass.. ;) | 19:57 |
| * LarstiQ would keep the changelog entries | 19:57 | |
| LarstiQ | but I don't see how having it version controlled is making it _harder_ | 19:58 |
| kklimonda | no harder, just more work - i would have to revert a commit ;) | 20:00 |
| LarstiQ | kklimonda: no? | 20:04 |
| kklimonda | why not? | 20:06 |
| ScottK | kklimonda: No. Debian/changelog should be the history of the package in the archive. | 20:07 |
| ScottK | You needed revert, just merge the changes in and then re-edit your changelog. | 20:07 |
| ScottK | needed/needn't. | 20:07 |
| LarstiQ | ScottK: which archive though? | 20:08 |
| ScottK | The Ubuntu one (or Debian/Ubuntu in the case of packages we get from Debian and modify). | 20:08 |
| * ScottK observes the Ubuntu is the distro we are working on here .... | 20:08 | |
| LarstiQ | ScottK: the latter case is tricky | 20:09 |
| ScottK | LarstiQ: Not at all. We have well established tools for the merge process. | 20:09 |
| LarstiQ | nevermind | 20:09 |
| ScottK | OK. Obviously we aren't communicating very well. | 20:09 |
| ScottK | If you care to discuss it, it's fine with me. | 20:10 |
| LarstiQ | ScottK: you make a valid point, it's just that I'm not included | 20:10 |
| LarstiQ | so I'll do the right thing and leave this channel, as I should have before | 20:11 |
| LarstiQ | ScottK: I'm fine with discussin it somewhere else | 20:11 |
| ScottK | LarstiQ: I certainly didn't intend to say anything that would cause you to leave. | 20:11 |
| LarstiQ | ScottK: no worries | 20:12 |
| LarstiQ | ScottK: would /query be ok with you? | 20:12 |
| e-jat | can some one verify this : http://tinyurl.com/q6cm5l | 20:13 |
| ScottK | LarstiQ: If you really feel it's needed. OK. | 20:14 |
| kklimonda | e-jat: link is broken | 20:14 |
| e-jat | yups .. proposed repo broken right ? | 20:15 |
| kklimonda | no, the link to the post is broken | 20:15 |
| ScottK | YokoZar: I thought you'd be interested in http://ariya.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-get-spotify-running-on-opensuse.html | 20:20 |
| YokoZar | ScottK: thanks | 20:21 |
| ScottK | no problem. | 20:21 |
| LarstiQ | ScottK: thanks, and cheers | 20:21 |
| * LarstiQ goes back to #bzr | 20:21 | |
| c_korn | can anyone explain me why this build fails? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/27625080/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-i386.vlc_1.0.0~rc3-1~ppa1~jaunty1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 20:34 |
| soren | c_korn: Because libvlccore2 stopped provinding a unescape_URI function? | 20:36 |
| c_korn | soren: so I just have to delete those two lines from the symbols file? | 20:39 |
| soren | c_korn: Err... | 20:40 |
| soren | c_korn: Not exactly. | 20:40 |
| soren | c_korn: I mean.. Yes, that will make the build succeed again, but if something is actually using that symbol, you're screwed. | 20:41 |
| c_korn | (as I see the symbols have been removed upstream http://git.videolan.org/?p=vlc.git;a=commit;h=2341f8bbc23622d0d8b8a511b7cc745d20beb878 ) | 20:41 |
| soren | If it was never used externally and only exported by accident or whatnot, you're probably fine. | 20:41 |
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| pochu | cool - http://af.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idAFTRE55623320090607 | 23:17 |
| directhex | pochu, sadly it sounds like the BNP have some seats too | 23:23 |
| pochu | not everything can be perfect... | 23:27 |
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