alexbodn | where does a xul application search for it's applicaiton.ini, and it's xulrunner? how can i set these values? | 00:44 |
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asac | bah ... pulse is again in bad state :( | 10:59 |
asac | alexbodn: if you use the xul stub it will look in the same dir where the stub is living | 10:59 |
asac | otherwise there is the -app parameter | 10:59 |
alexbodn | asac: thanks a lot for your reply. however there is application.ini near the binary, it unfortunately says "Could not read application.ini" | 11:19 |
asac | which binary? | 11:19 |
asac | if its the stub it should be ok | 11:19 |
alexbodn | bluegriffon. | 11:19 |
asac | alexbodn: yeah. replace the binary with the xulrunner-stub | 11:20 |
alexbodn | it runs ok if xulrunner is near the binary too, and i can also be run as "xulrunner application.ini" | 11:20 |
asac | alexbodn: use the -stub | 11:21 |
alexbodn | the binary is a copy of xulrunner-stub | 11:21 |
asac | yeah. that should work in general | 11:21 |
asac | alexbodn: run strace -f -eopen /path/to/binary | 11:22 |
asac | to see where it looks for application.ini | 11:22 |
alexbodn | ok | 11:23 |
asac | alexbodn: i just tried ... the stub looks in the same dir: | 11:23 |
asac | cp /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.10/xulrunner-stub /tmp/ | 11:23 |
asac | strace -f -eopen /tmp/xulrunner-stub | 11:23 |
asac | open("/tmp/application.ini", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) | 11:23 |
asac | Could not read application.ini | 11:23 |
asac | so yeah. just next to the stubg | 11:23 |
alexbodn | i see a difference: i was running /usr/bin/bluegriffon, which is a symlynk to /usr/lib/bluegriffon/bluegriffon, and the application ini is near the binary. | 11:33 |
alexbodn | but now, there is a complain about gre: could not find compatible gre between version 1.9 and 1.9 | 11:34 |
alexbodn | i found in /etc/gre.d/1.9.system.conf the section [1.9.0.10], so i've put that in application.ini min and max version, but now "Platform version '1.9' is not compatible with min >= 1.9.0.10 and max <= 1.9.0.10" | 11:41 |
asac | alexbodn: means that application.ini uses wrong min/max version | 11:41 |
alexbodn | maybe this happens since i copied build-system.tar.gz verbatim from ubuntu, where it was 1.9.0.10 indeed. | 11:42 |
asac | well. 1.9.system.conf is not from our package | 11:42 |
asac | /etc/gre.d/1.9.0.10.system.conf | 11:42 |
asac | could be | 11:42 |
asac | maybe the build system replaces min/max version with something | 11:42 |
asac | but you should patch that to open up the max version, like 1.9.0.* | 11:43 |
alexbodn | i have these, but they both show 1.9.0.10, however the installed xulrunner is 1.9 | 11:43 |
alexbodn | let me try | 11:43 |
asac | alexbodn: well. thats not our package i guess | 11:43 |
asac | just use what we have in ubuntu ;) | 11:43 |
asac | are you on debian? | 11:44 |
asac | ;) | 11:44 |
alexbodn | yes | 11:44 |
asac | so what exactly is in 1.9.system.conf there? | 11:44 |
alexbodn | ad copied the tar from you ;) | 11:44 |
asac | paste it | 11:45 |
asac | maybe debian is 1.9.0.9? | 11:45 |
alexbodn | 10 | 11:45 |
asac | how does the application.ini in source tree look like? | 11:45 |
asac | in any case ... it should work if you use minVersion=1.9.0.10 and maxVersion=1.9.0.* | 11:46 |
asac | unless mike patched more | 11:46 |
asac | run | 11:46 |
asac | xulrunner --gre-version | 11:46 |
asac | what do you get? | 11:46 |
alexbodn | 1.9 | 11:48 |
asac | yeah | 11:48 |
asac | so he patched the mess out of it ;) | 11:48 |
asac | alexbodn: why do you think that its 1.9.0.10` | 11:48 |
asac | ? | 11:48 |
asac | dpkg -l xulrunner | 11:48 |
asac | anyway. that means you need to use minVersion=1.9 and maxVersion=1.9.0.* | 11:48 |
alexbodn | asac: please excuse me: i have to go for an hour or so. i wish very much to continue, if possible? | 11:49 |
asac | i am always here ... just ask in case i am not at keyboard i will answer when back | 11:49 |
asac | (might also be tomorrow | 11:49 |
asac | ) | 11:49 |
alexbodn | i tried your last advice and it works. but i'll have to automate it :) | 11:50 |
alexbodn | bye for now and thanks a lot :) | 11:50 |
asac | alexbodn: well. as i said i think bluegriffon has a template | 11:50 |
asac | thats a bug on its own | 11:50 |
asac | and you should patch that in bluegriffon code | 11:51 |
asac | just use the borders from above | 11:51 |
asac | no problem | 11:51 |
asac | cu | 11:51 |
alexbodn | i'll look at fennec and others too. | 11:51 |
alexbodn | cu ;) | 11:51 |
asac | alexbodn: great. we have fennec | 11:51 |
asac | but needs to be bumped to latest | 11:51 |
asac | if you want to help that would be fantastic | 11:51 |
alexbodn | np :) | 11:52 |
alexbodn | do you have working package? | 11:52 |
alexbodn | i'll be back | 11:52 |
asac | alexbodn: yes. we have a bzr branch for fennec | 11:54 |
asac | ask fta | 11:54 |
asac | even the build-system instructions are for fennec in the wiki ;) | 11:55 |
asac | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/XulApps/Packaging | 11:55 |
asac | also we have a good amount of work to do this cycle transitioning to xulrunner 1.9.1 | 11:56 |
asac | (for ffox 3.5) | 11:56 |
alexbodn | i'll try to build fennec tonight, so both bluegriffon and fennec would have the same build methods and hopefully good quality | 13:39 |
alexbodn | asac: do you know how the application file can be a script, calling application_name-bin? | 13:43 |
alexbodn | i seems bluegriffon distributed binary has been done like this, but the svn is not updated. | 13:43 |
fta | alexbodn, ? | 18:57 |
fta | hi everyone | 18:57 |
BUGabundo | hey fta | 18:59 |
BUGabundo | got your system working yet? | 18:59 |
fta | nope | 18:59 |
fta | X seems to render everyting in software, so it's slow as hell. | 18:59 |
fta | pa is still unable to find my sound card | 19:00 |
BUGabundo | irrk | 19:01 |
fta | a bunch of things are crashing too | 19:01 |
fta | but i did a massive upgrade, about a week worth of packages | 19:02 |
fta | everything changed, kernel, udev, hal, pa, X, X driver, etc.. | 19:02 |
BUGabundo | working fine here | 19:03 |
BUGabundo | strange how you are finding so much trouble | 19:03 |
fta | <fta2> Jun 6 18:56:09 nano console-kit-daemon[3480]: WARNING: Couldn't read /proc/3479/environ: Failed to open file '/proc/3479/environ': No such file or directory | 19:07 |
fta | <fta2> Jun 6 18:56:12 nano pulseaudio[4053]: module-alsa-card.c: Card '0' doesn't exist: No such file or directory | 19:07 |
fta | <fta2> Jun 6 18:56:12 nano pulseaudio[4053]: module.c: Failed to load module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id=0 name=pci_8086_27d8_sound_card_0 card_name=alsa_card.pci_8086_27d8_sound_card_0 tsched=0"): initialization failed. | 19:07 |
fta | i downgraded pa, booted on an older kernel, still the same | 19:08 |
fta | also downgraded the x-org-intel driver, UNR is still unusable | 19:09 |
fta | no clue what's causing this | 19:09 |
BUGabundo | no idea either | 19:10 |
fta | asac, FIREFOX_3_5b99_BUILD1 / FIREFOX_3_5b99_RELEASE.. wtf? | 19:11 |
BUGabundo | b99? | 19:12 |
BUGabundo | wasn't it RC? | 19:12 |
fta | http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.1/rev/3f775c3bb24a8b6cce6dd0a50aefc4d21f27a35f | 19:13 |
fta | don't ask me | 19:13 |
fta | there's even a build2 apparently | 19:14 |
micahg | Is TB3pre stable enough to use full time? | 19:14 |
micahg | do I have to worry about data loss on IMAP? | 19:14 |
BUGabundo | how can IMAP have data loss? | 19:15 |
fta | a lot of people are using it, no one complained, at least not to me | 19:15 |
BUGabundo | its Full Server storage | 19:15 |
micahg | TB tries to delete stuff it shouldn't? | 19:15 |
BUGabundo | what?? | 19:15 |
fta | thunderbird-3.0 648 0.06% 76 436 136 0 | 19:15 |
* BUGabundo is glad he is using kmail | 19:15 | |
micahg | If it interfaces, it could in theory destroy | 19:15 |
micahg | BUGabundo: same problem on any mail client | 19:16 |
micahg | if there's a goof | 19:16 |
fta | chromium-browser 5721 0.51% 390 1912 3419 0 | 19:16 |
fta | cxchromium 3736 0.33% 310 3187 172 67 | 19:16 |
fta | ia32-libs-chromium-browser 1357 0.12% 0 0 0 1357 | 19:16 |
fta | ia32-cxchromium 846 0.08% 55 725 51 15 | 19:16 |
micahg | fta: do you know if the add-ons for TB are TB3 compatible yet? | 19:16 |
fta | yeah! we win! | 19:16 |
fta | micahg, no idea | 19:16 |
BUGabundo | fta: LOLOL | 19:17 |
BUGabundo | let me RT that fta | 19:17 |
fta | BUGabundo, hold on | 19:17 |
* BUGabundo pauses | 19:18 | |
fta | BUGabundo, to be fair, you need to compare chromium-browser vs cxchromium + ia32-cxchromium | 19:18 |
BUGabundo | okayyy | 19:18 |
fta | chromium-browser is both 32 and 64, while cxchromium is only 32 and ia32-cxchromium only 64 | 19:18 |
* BUGabundo opens gcalc-tool | 19:18 | |
BUGabundo | I'm lost | 19:19 |
BUGabundo | I should just add both cx right? | 19:20 |
fta | 5721 vs 4582 | 19:20 |
BUGabundo | ok | 19:20 |
fta | and to compare the number of 64 bit installs: 1357 vs 846 | 19:21 |
BUGabundo | ohh that's too much for a dent | 19:21 |
fta | lol | 19:21 |
fta | so don't ;) | 19:21 |
fta | BUGabundo, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/chromium-popcon.png | 19:30 |
BUGabundo | how did that happen? | 19:31 |
BUGabundo | how did they manage to have more then us? | 19:31 |
fta | no | 19:31 |
fta | we are red | 19:32 |
fta | BUGabundo, ^^ | 19:32 |
BUGabundo | I know | 19:32 |
BUGabundo | but since the lunch until ~25/5 they were ahead | 19:33 |
BUGabundo | PUB? | 19:33 |
fta | cxchromium was available long before my stuff. it's the windows binary wrapped for wine | 19:33 |
BUGabundo | now I'm confused | 19:40 |
BUGabundo | didn't you say chromium was the red one? | 19:40 |
BUGabundo | its older | 19:40 |
fta | http://www.codeweavers.com/services/ports/chromium/ | 19:41 |
fta | that's cxchromium | 19:42 |
BUGabundo | fta AHHHHHH that makes it SO much clear! /me slaps in the head | 19:42 |
fta | chromium-browser is my ppa | 19:42 |
dtchen | fta: please run ubuntu-bug pulseaudio | 21:22 |
fta | dtchen, hold on, re-upgrading | 21:23 |
dtchen | fta: ok | 21:24 |
fta | good, still the same error | 21:45 |
fta | Jun 7 22:44:51 nano pulseaudio[4520]: module-alsa-card.c: Card '0' doesn't exist: No such file or directory | 21:45 |
fta | Jun 7 22:44:51 nano pulseaudio[4520]: module.c: Failed to load module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id=0 name=pci_8086_27d8_sound_card_0 card_name=alsa_card.pci_8086_27d8_sound_card_0 tsched=0"): initialization failed. | 21:45 |
fta | dtchen, http://paste.ubuntu.com/190480/ | 21:47 |
fta | dtchen, you prefer a real bug instead? | 21:50 |
dtchen | fta: sec, loading the paste | 21:52 |
dtchen | fta: how about: sudo -i, then cat /proc/asound/{card,device}s | 21:54 |
fta | dtchen, http://paste.ubuntu.com/190484/ | 21:55 |
dtchen | fta: ok, and amixer -Dhw:0 (while still sudo -i) | 21:55 |
fta | http://paste.ubuntu.com/190487/ | 21:56 |
fta | dtchen, http://paste.ubuntu.com/190487/ | 21:56 |
dtchen | fta: ok, and just to check: speaker-test -c2 -Dplughw:0 (while still sudo -i) | 21:57 |
BUGabundo | wfm | 21:58 |
fta | dtchen, seems ok, does it stop by itself? | 21:59 |
dtchen | not using that command | 21:59 |
dtchen | you'll need to sigterm it | 21:59 |
fta | dtchen, ok, so here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/190488/ | 21:59 |
dtchen | so if that speaker-test command as root was audible, then you're experiencing a permissions issue | 22:00 |
dtchen | i'd blame consolekit and/or policykit | 22:00 |
fta | open("/dev/snd/controlC0", O_RDONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) | 22:00 |
fta | open("/dev/aloadC0", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) | 22:00 |
fta | crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 6 2009-06-07 22:43 /dev/snd/controlC0 | 22:01 |
dtchen | you can work around it by adding your user to @audio, logging out, and logging back in | 22:01 |
BUGabundo | I'm not in the audio group for the record | 22:01 |
dtchen | BUGabundo: you shouldn't need to be | 22:02 |
fta | fta@nano:~ $ groups | 22:02 |
fta | fta adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare | 22:02 |
fta | indeed | 22:02 |
dtchen | there's a consolekit/policykit bug where the seat isn't registered properly | 22:02 |
fta | fta@ix:~ $ groups | 22:02 |
fta | fta adm cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin fuse pulse-rt kvm libvirtd dialout | 22:02 |
dtchen | when everything works properly, the foreground user is granted @audio permissions | 22:02 |
BUGabundo | fta: small groupbs | 22:02 |
BUGabundo | mine is huge | 22:03 |
BUGabundo | $ groups | 22:03 |
BUGabundo | bugabundo sys adm dialout fax voice cdrom floppy tape sudo dip www-data video plugdev users syslog scanner fuse lpadmin admin netdev polkituser sambashare kvm nagios davfs2 | 22:03 |
* BUGabundo loves to see floppy on a laptop :)) | 22:03 | |
fta | nano is my netbook, ix is my main desktop | 22:04 |
fta | in the last few days, i got new devicekit-disks, devicekit-power & libdevkit-power-gobject1 | 22:09 |
dtchen | the devicekit-* are way ahead of the GNOME bits | 22:10 |
dtchen | e.g., look in Places | 22:10 |
fta | ? | 22:10 |
dtchen | i have a "320 GB LVM2 Physical Volume" entry | 22:10 |
dtchen | so karmic's GNOME bits haven't caught up with the new devicekit-* bits | 22:11 |
dtchen | so you end up with nonsensical entries like those above | 22:11 |
* fta blames the desktop team | 22:11 | |
* fta wants a gnome-daily ppa ;) | 22:12 | |
BUGabundo | ahaah | 22:15 |
fta | i wish there was a similar workaround for my X issue :( | 22:22 |
BUGabundo | fta: put your user in X group | 22:23 |
BUGabundo | oh wait there none for that eheh | 22:23 |
fta | dtchen, just rebooted my desktop, no more sound post gdm. i had to mute/unmute the "Internal Audio" stream in pa :( 1st time on that desktop | 23:54 |
dtchen | fta: we just fixed that bug about 15 minutes ago in pa git head. | 23:55 |
dtchen | 18:12 < CIA-68> polypaudio: lennart * r587fc2a pulseaudio/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): | 23:56 |
dtchen | 18:12 < CIA-68> polypaudio: core: make sure soft mute status stays in sync with hw mute status | 23:56 |
fta | hm, ok | 23:58 |
dtchen | should be in the next karmic pa upload | 23:58 |
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