[00:01] <vi390> hi, I know there is a reconfigure comandline utility for adding resolutions in kubuntu. How is it called?
[00:03] <Fanfare> vi390: sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package>
[00:04] <vi390> Fanfare:  in xserver-xorg is no adding of resolutions
[00:04] <vi390> there must be another I have used once, but I cant remember
[00:08] <Fanfare> vi390: if u have X running maybe krandrtray  can help
[00:11] <tr_hawk> cheers, time for dream-time...
[00:14] <myself> is there a way to make the desktop folder thing locked into place? in kubuntu
[00:17] <mefisto__> click the cashew at the top right and lock widgets
[00:18] <myself> is there a way to make the desktop folder on the desktop locked into place?
[00:18] <mefisto__> lock widgets
[00:20] <myself> no option there like that... its not a widget is it?
[00:20] <myself> oh wait
[00:20] <myself> found it
[00:20] <myself> hehehe
[00:20] <mefisto__> the cashew icon
[00:21] <ArkoldThos> best msn client for kde?
[00:21] <myself> okay
[00:21] <myself> so, where is the trash can in kubuntu?
[00:22] <ArkoldThos> just trash:/ on dolphin or konqueror
[00:22] <myself> theres not a widget or whatever for it
[00:22] <ArkoldThos> no clue :p
[00:22] <myself> get outta here!
[00:23] <myself> okay yea theers a widget
[00:29] <teucer> I'm having some trouble making JACK work under KDE
[00:30] <teucer> It works fine under GNOME, but I like working in KDE better, and for some reason JACK stops itself every time I try to use it
[00:43] <Chani> hmm. is there a convenient way to dist-upgrade or should I just edit sources.list ?
[00:45] <LoreCaster> alright... this is reaching the desperation point. Is it at all possible to have another computer, for example, a windows machine... that has drivers for that **** ****** canon printer... and allow my linux box to print THROUGH the windows print server? anyone know the answer or where i can go to ask?
[00:45] <LoreCaster> i would be prepared to set up a windows xp 32-bit tower just to get the printer running... and attach it with samba or something to my linux-box...
[00:46] <Chani> that *sounds* like it must be possible, but I don't have much luck with printers
[00:47] <LoreCaster> my brother gave me this awesome laser multifunction, but canon doesn't support linux under any circumstances
[00:47] <dthacker> LoreCaster: model?
[00:47] <LoreCaster> Canon ImageCLASS D760
[00:47] <LoreCaster> make yourself a hero dthacker... please. :)
[00:47] <dthacker> hehe
[00:48] <LoreCaster> the thing is i'm NOT going back to M$... and i can't allow myself to scrap a $600 printer gift
[00:48]  * Chani sighs
[00:48] <Chani> dist-upgrades are never pleasant
[00:48] <LoreCaster> i had to reinstall my linux-box today... had 449 updates, 380 mb
[00:48] <LoreCaster> (ubuntu 9.04)
[00:49] <Chani> aptitude wants to take away kde4
[00:49] <LoreCaster> i use gnome. it's MUCH faster
[00:49] <Chani> it also wants to remove xserver-xorg-video-all
[00:49] <dthacker> LoreCaster is this directly attached via parallel?
[00:50] <LoreCaster> via USB
[00:50] <LoreCaster> who uses parallel any more? :P
[00:50]  * Chani is concerned about hte xorg removal bit
[00:51] <JontheEchidna> Chani: that's a meta package that depends on all xserver video drivers
[00:51] <LoreCaster> been ripping my hair out for three days over this... what a dog
[00:51] <JontheEchidna> it should be safe to remove
[00:51] <Chani> JontheEchidna: well apparently the reason it's removing it is that things like ati and vesa are not installable
[00:52] <Chani> it'd kinda suck if I gotstuck not having any video drivers
[00:52] <JontheEchidna> ok, then that's bad
[00:52] <Chani> it doesn't say *why*
[00:52] <JontheEchidna> So this is a upgrade to 9.04?
[00:53] <Chani> yeah
[00:53] <Chani> hardy->jaunty
[00:53] <LoreCaster> i really like jaunty
[00:53] <JontheEchidna> have you checked out http://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04 ?
[00:53] <JontheEchidna> I think it outlines the safest/recommended upgrade path
[00:54] <Chani> I was just opening that
[00:54] <JontheEchidna> heh :)
[00:54] <JontheEchidna> oh wow, I haven't seen the adept2 interface in forever
[00:54] <JontheEchidna> the kde3 desktop either. Man, time flies
[00:54] <Chani> hmm. not much info on that page
[00:55] <LuisJa> how i can get the windows media player for firefox here in linux?
[00:55] <Chani> I'm going to go ahead and risk it and pray that I can sort things out afterwards.
[00:55] <LoreCaster> -tear- i hate not being able to solve these problems on my own.
[00:56] <Chani> oh good, it's removing ati but installing radeon. heh
[00:57] <Chani> so after that I'll just have to sort out kde
[00:57] <Chani> thing is, I used some other source to get kde 4.1 back when hardy just had 4.0
[00:57] <Chani> aand another hour of downloading
[00:58] <Chani> great, I can gte food
[01:00] <b0nn> hi all, I'm trying to upgrade to jaunty, and I am getting the following error:error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_5ubuntu4_i386.deb
[01:00] <b0nn> any ideas what I should do?
[01:00] <b0nn> oh, the rest of the error is :trying to overwrite `/etc/lsb-release', which is also in package debian-edu-config
[01:00] <LuisJa> how i can get the windows media player for firefox here in linux?
[01:01] <LoreCaster> dthacker: any luck?
[01:01] <LoreCaster> dthacker: ...please? :D
[01:01] <JontheEchidna> b0nn: For now you can do sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_5ubuntu4_i386.deb
[01:01] <JontheEchidna> but I would recommend filing a bug report with the info you gave
[01:03] <b0nn> ok
[01:03] <b0nn> thanks
[01:03] <b0nn> it installed ok, am restarting the apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:04] <LoreCaster> -shakily breathes- running fresh install of ubuntu jaunty (9.04) and have all 450+ updates... i run archive manager on "cndrvcups-common-1.80-1.x86_64.rpm" (.deb is not available) and get an error message... "Archive type is not supported."
[01:04] <LoreCaster> WHY?!
[01:04] <LoreCaster> :(
[01:06] <LuisJa> how i can get the windows media player for firefox here in linux?
[01:08] <LoreCaster> anyone? anyone? beuller? beuller? beuller? :P
[01:11] <dthacker> LoreCaster: I've lost my history buffer, could you repeat?
[01:11] <LoreCaster> it's USB, dthacker
[01:12] <dthacker> LoreCaster: did you see my link for setting up a remote windows printer?
[01:12] <LoreCaster> -grumbles- my brother knew it'd be this much trouble... he's a windows advocate. damnit. lol
[01:12] <LoreCaster> :| nope!! :D
[01:13] <dthacker> Your brother gave you a boat anchor.   My wife is a small business accountant, and all of her pricey windows software will *not* support multi-function printers
[01:13] <LoreCaster> it's a cast-off from his church-office... he's an Anglican Priest... and a windows-user.
[01:14] <LoreCaster> though he is that cruelly kind as to give me such a sweet toy that i cannot use... lol
[01:14] <LoreCaster> what link was it you said?
[01:14] <dthacker> Here's a promising link: http://www.watchingthenet.com/connecting-to-shared-printers-on-windows-computers.html
[01:14] <LuisJa> how i can get the windows media player for firefox here in linux?
[01:15] <LoreCaster> AHHHHHHHHHHH!!! This might be it!!!
[01:15] <LoreCaster> now i just have to build and set up a whine-o 32-bit windows XP install.
[01:15] <LoreCaster> lol
[01:16] <LoreCaster> i figured the only option was to set it up on a winxp32 clunker... you're a good person, dthacker :)
[01:17] <dthacker> LoreCaster: np. Good Luck!
[01:17]  * dthacker has to go do work now.....
[01:17] <dthacker> bbl
[01:17] <LoreCaster> i'll be in here openly weeping if this fails... you'll no doubt haering about me
[01:17] <LoreCaster> lol
[01:17] <LoreCaster> thanks so much
[01:33] <bobbob1016> How can I get compiz to draw my wallpaper, not KDE?
[01:48] <LuisJa> how i can get the windows media player for firefox here in linux?
[01:49] <b0nn> hrm, I'm having another upgrade problem
[01:49] <b0nn> file does not exist: /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/GDebi/__init__.py
[01:58] <LuisJa> No one knows?!
[01:58] <Feasibility_Stud> LuisJa you need to install the codecs and plugins
[01:58] <Feasibility_Stud> Let me get you the link that will show you what to do
[01:59] <Feasibility_Stud> LuisJa http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[01:59] <Feasibility_Stud> There are a couple of commands you will see.  They should pull in just about all possible multimedia plugins
[02:06] <Guest93211> wondering where i can download apps for the periphs on my asus w5 laptop?
[02:07] <LuisJa> Feasibility_Stud: thx a lot dude
[02:16] <bobbob1016> How can I get compiz to draw my wallpaper, not KDE?  I enabled it in compiz, but can't seem to get KDE to stop drawing the background.
[02:35] <rxcomp> alooow
[02:43] <Chani> ohhh crap.
[02:43] <Chani> something went wrong.
[02:44] <Chani> very wrong.
[02:46] <Chani> but I don't know what.
[02:46] <Chani> I upgraded, it looked as if everything went fine. but I rebooted and didn't get X
[02:47] <Chani> when I ran startx, it said that lnusertemp failed... and then the system locked up hard
[02:49] <Chani> ummm.... I need help.
[02:57] <ahmad_> Chani: what do u mean ?
[02:59] <Chani> ahmad_: kdm won't start (no errors at all), startx locked up the computer
[02:59] <Chani> I just upgraded to kde 4.2
[02:59] <Chani> well, I did a dist-upgrade. hardy to jaunty
[02:59] <ahmad_> then .. ?
[03:02] <Chani> ahmad_: I rebooted.
[03:03] <ahmad_> u did apt-get upgrade ? or used the DVD ?
[03:03] <Chani> aptitude. full-upgrade.
[03:04] <ahmad_> ok. r u using extras ?
[03:05] <ahmad_> for desktop
[03:05] <Chani> ooooh, there's some conflict if I try safe-upgrade...
[03:06] <Chani> ahmad_: I grepped sources.list for "extra" and got nothing
[03:06] <ahmad_> what conflict u got
[03:07] <Chani> several, xorg and kde
[03:08] <Chani> eeeew. looks like the dist-upgarde didn't go as well as I tought. it's suggesting doing lots more stuff.
[03:08] <ahmad_> Chani: Try to find your xorg log files and look for lines with EE on them. These are fatal errors and should give you some more information which should make it possible to diagnose the problem.
[03:08] <Chani> 1 broken, 473 updates
[03:09] <Chani> ahmad_: already looked, not useful.
[03:09] <Chani> I'll prod apt for a while and see if I can help it solve its problems
[03:11] <ahmad_> Chani: try to empty your temp
[03:12] <ahmad_> Chani: df -h
[03:12] <ahmad_> copy the output to me
[03:15] <myself> does the K in KDE stand for anything?
[03:15] <ahmad_> for K
[03:15] <ahmad_> are you talkin to your self ?
[03:20] <myself> does the K mean anything ahmad_ :)
[03:21] <myself> or it just a K, an infinity of it's own.
[03:21] <Chani> damnit
[03:21] <ahmad_> myself: people call KDE kool desktop environment, but for me its just K
[03:22] <myself> K stands for Kool
[03:22] <Chani> I can't get kdebase-runtime-data installed properly until I remove konsole. but every time I try to remove konsole it wants to install kdebase-runtime-data *first
[03:22] <myself> w00t
[03:22] <ahmad_> maybe u can find somtin in kde.org
[03:22] <LuisJa> how i can get the windows media player for firefox here in linux?
[03:22] <Chani> myself: these days KDE doesn't stand for anything.
[03:22] <Chani> myself: kde's much more than just a desktop environment now :)
[03:23] <ahmad_> Chani: df -h
[03:23] <myself> you're much more than a desktop enviornment
[03:23] <ahmad_> Chani: i think the upgrade ate your desk space
[03:24] <Chani> ahmad_: no, it did not, I checked.
[03:25] <Chani> does anyone here know how to resolve this sort of dependency hell?
[03:26] <ahmad_> Chani: Do you get the login screen but get kicked out when you try to log in?
[03:26] <Chani> ahmad_: 19:22 < Chani> I can't get kdebase-runtime-data installed properly until I remove konsole. but every time I try to remove konsole it wants to install kdebase-runtime-data *first
[03:28] <Chani> woo! dpkg to the rescue. hooray for blind obedience ;)
[03:28] <ahmad_> lol
[03:30] <ahmad_> sorry Chani cant find anything about it
[03:30] <ahmad_> if u can get the DVD and reinstall your system it may work
[04:01] <CiMaRRoN> bueeeeeeeee ... prometo no portarme bien .. :P
[04:03] <CiMaRRoN> perdon perdon .. :P prometo portarme bien
[04:11] <coz_> hey guys I still have sound effects for some applications not listed in the system settings notifications  in fact  under notifications i have "No audio output"  enabled yet still ,,,,as in  xchat  which has no sound alse enabled  ... I get  pops and bings  :)  and place I can look to stop this?
[04:14] <coz_> do you think there is a file I could alter to stop sound effects for the system?
[05:35] <myself> Okay, so where i select wallpapers and stuff, in Desktop Setting in Kubuntu, I am trying to move some of my previous wallpapers into another folder, but it wont let me and I think its cause those wallpapers are already on that list of of backgrounds in  that settings menu, how do i clear that menu, or what do i do to move those wallpapers into another folder thank you
[05:40] <tsimpson> myself: by default, user installed wallpapers are in ~/.kde/share/wallpapers
[05:40] <myself> no
[05:40] <myself> thats not what im asking
[05:40] <tsimpson> then can you be more clear? :)
[05:40] <dacorr> join #ubuntu
[05:41] <myself> okay, so check this out, so i have wallpapers in a certain folder, in my home folder, that i selected with the Desktop Settings - Plamsa Workspace to change my background with, now, i want to move those into another folder, they are in the home folder, but it wont let me move them because they are saved in that menu.
[05:42] <myself> they are protected or read only or something now
[05:42] <myself> cause that menu uses them
[05:43] <tsimpson> how are you trying to move them?
[05:43] <myself> manually w/ dolphin
[05:44] <myself> maybe i should sudo dolphin or something
[05:44] <tsimpson> ok, what error does it throw up?
[05:44] <myself> they just have a minus sign
[05:44] <myself> indicating they are read only
[05:44] <myself> or something
[05:44] <myself> lemme try sudo dolphin
[05:44] <tsimpson> myself: use kdesudo
[05:44] <myself> what is kdesudo
[05:44] <tsimpson> !kdesudo
[05:45] <myself> hmmm i see alright
[05:47] <tsimpson> I don't get what you mean, I can move my wallpapers to other folders
[05:47] <myself> i cant move them still
[05:47] <myself> wierd
[05:47] <myself> even with sudo
[05:49] <myself> but
[05:49] <myself> well i am able to cut and paste them
[05:49] <myself> so thats good enough, w/e lol
[05:51] <myself> anyone here have a rotating desktop? whats a comfortable time frame for them to change, like 30 min?
[06:01] <xjjk> myself: do you mean wallpapers? comfortable is subjective... mine is set to every 10 min
[06:01] <myself> i see
[06:02] <myself> thats what im gonna do
[06:02] <myself> i set it to that
[06:03] <zader> hi guys = )   I can't seem to pick the right java runtime program, even tried download from site, appreciate any clues thnkx
[06:07] <dacorr> zader: what are you using JAVA for?
[06:23] <Serpardum[DM]> When I start konversation in kubuntu it just ends.  How do I find out what's wrong?
[06:26] <dacorr> run from terminal, will give an error message there
[06:27] <Serpardum> I restarted the computer and it worked this time *shrug*
[06:28] <dacorr> you may want to look into pidgin, i found it better to konversation
[06:29] <Serpardum> better how?
[06:29] <Serpardum[]> what he said
[06:29] <dacorr> handles other protocols, more functions
[07:00] <fake12341234> show
[07:24] <corrado> italiano ci 6?
[07:39] <peabody> Hey my desktop has 4x1GB memory modules installed, and the bios sees 4096MB of RAM.. but inside Linux, I only see 2.97 GB
[07:41] <peabody> I'm using the 32bit version of linux and if you're about to say I need the 64 bit version http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[07:45] <kev_> hey, does anybody know how to turn off the bouncing icon on the cursor that happens when i open a new program?
[07:46] <SJr|nx> How can I kill my KDE screensaver, if I can't login.
[07:48]  * dROg morning all
[07:48] <Serpardum> morn'
[07:51] <kev_> hey, does anybody know how to turn off the bouncing icon on the cursor that happens when i open a new program?
[07:51] <eagles0513875> !patience | kev_
[07:53] <kev_> i repeat my question only when i see new people come in the room after i ask the question. see they haven't seen my question, but know the answer. so i ask again. see how that works?
[07:53] <kev_> and i wait for a few to come it before i ask again
[08:00] <kev_> someone else found it. it's in Desktop Effects ---> Launch Feedback
[08:40] <zdl> ?
[08:43] <zdl> hello
[08:48] <Scherenhaenden> hiiiiiiiii
[08:48] <Scherenhaenden> some can help me?
[08:48] <Scherenhaenden> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libkdepim4_4%3a4.2.85-0ubuntu6_i386.deb: Versuche, »/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/actions/meeting-attending-tentative.png« zu überschreiben, welches auch in Paket kde-icons-oxygen ist
[08:48] <Scherenhaenden> i dont know what do i have to do
[08:48] <Scherenhaenden> :S:S
[08:53] <Fridrik85> hola
[08:53] <Fridrik85> algun cristiano que me quiera ayudar con un problemilla
[08:54] <Fridrik85> con el sonido
[08:54] <Fridrik85> soy nuevo
[08:54] <Fridrik85> en ubuntu!!
[08:54] <Fridrik85> hi
[08:54] <Fridrik85> hi¿?
[08:54] <Fridrik85> alguien here¿?
[08:55] <Fridrik85> good bye
[08:58] <Alan_Lockwood> Hola!
[08:58] <Alan_Lockwood> Problema: Eliminé la parte del pánel inferior donde aparecen las aplicaciones minimizadas, ¿cómo se llama ese applet?
[09:02] <jean_pierre_cz> yo dirio task manager (en francés se llama "gestionnaire des tâches"
[09:29] <cjae> So how can  I make kickoff application launcher follow mouse over favourites, applications, computer and leave?
[09:30] <jean_pierre_cz> and what about the famous Raptor? :-)
[09:30] <zortec> How do I get icons to show up on the desktop in KDE?
[09:35] <jean_pierre_cz> easy, rightclick, desktop settings and if you are using 4.2.3 or superior you change your options to Folder View zortec
[09:48] <skierpage> amarok
[09:50] <arvid> How can I mass rename a lot of files? I want to rename "*.malform" to "*". i.e. "/my/file.bin.mailform" to "/my/file.bin"
[09:54] <jussi01> Does anyone know how to rip just a small section of a DVD?
[09:55] <jussi01> !info krename | arvid
[09:57] <arvid> jussi01: thanks! I'll take a look at it
[09:57] <jussi01> arvid: its a kde3 app, but still, it works well
[09:57] <arvid> jussi01: as long as it works I'm glad
[10:00] <Serpardum> what's the console command to list directories in the current directory?
[10:01] <Serpardum> I know I can ls -l and look for the d, but I just want to see teh ones with the d mode
[10:01] <cjae> By pressing ALT + [The Number], you will get the ASCII equivalent, but not in Kate?
[10:01] <Serpardum> I just tried in kate and it didn't work
[10:01] <Serpardum> it didn't work in the console either
[10:02] <jussi01> Serpardum: man ls
[10:02] <jussi01> ;)
[10:02] <Serpardum> didn't work here either
[10:02] <Serpardum> so alt + number doesn't appear to work in kbuntu
[10:02] <Serpardum> not that I've seen anyway
[10:03] <Serpardum> yeah, jussi01, I've ls --help too but the help is not written very well, not are man pages
[10:04] <cjae> man pages really suck sometimes, but at time can be incredibly reviling
[10:04] <user654> hi there
[10:04] <user654> me on 9.04 kde and I have to set the resolution to 1440x900 but when I restart or relogin the screen login shifts back to 1280x1024   how to fix it to 1440x900
[10:05] <cjae> user654, you gotta let them know the video card
[10:05] <Serpardum> you probably have to move it to one of the init.d things
[10:05] <user654> Serpardum: I go to system settings and choose 1440x900
[10:05] <user654> and it works... but after relogin or restart
[10:05] <user654> it reverts to 1280 1024
[10:06] <Serpardum> right, you are setting it for this session, apparently it's not being written anyway
[10:06] <user654> Serpardum: how do I put it to restart
[10:06] <Serpardum> *anywhere
[10:06] <user654> I mean where do I write it
[10:06] <user654> there must be some file or configuration kde reads
[10:07] <user654> Serpardum: ??
[10:07] <Serpardum> yeah, not sure where it is though
[10:08] <Serpardum> try googleing
[10:08] <Serpardum> "kubuntu save screen resolution reboot"
[10:08] <user654> its like this >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase/+bug/268434
[10:09] <khaije> for a kubuntu/vista dual boot which OS should i let handle the booting ?
[10:09] <Serpardum> I boot in vista just because I don't have the vista CD but a system restore setting (hp came that way)
[10:10] <khaije> Serpardum: was it tricky to setup a linux option in ntldr ?
[10:12] <user654> Serpardum: how can I change the resolution of the gdm screen ?
[10:13] <Serpardum> user654: using what emulator?
[10:13] <user654> emulator ?
[10:13] <Serpardum> If you are using virtualbox you have to install guest additions
[10:13] <Serpardum> or what is this gdm?
[10:13] <Serpardum> khaije: It was very easy to have vitualbox in vista run the install for kubuntu
[10:14] <cjae> I dont know anymore, but it used to be xorg.conf and look for your screen and set the default to whatever, user654 but they are changing xorg a bit lately, if its an nvidia card and you install the nvidia drivers you can set by their conf utility
[10:14] <Serpardum> the one thing I dont like however is the max window size seems to be 1024x768 for the emulated linux machine
[10:14] <Serpardum> afk-nature calls
[10:15] <user654> cjae: its intel onboard
[10:15] <user654> in xorg.conf how do I specify a default screen resolution
[10:16] <cjae> user654, I "think" if its not detecting it properly you would have to edit by hand and I have not done much in awhile
[10:16] <cjae> user654, one sec
[10:17] <user654> yea I shall edit it.. but how exactly do I
[10:17] <shadeslayer> user654: i can help there....one sec
[10:19] <cjae> user654, this is how you used to do it bare with me and this is for nvidia but there is not much diff in xorg between cards
[10:19] <cjae> why bother
[10:19] <shadeslayer> Underliner: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-config.html
[10:19] <user654> I got dc
[10:19] <cjae> oh
[10:19] <cjae> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-98456-p-2.html user654
[10:19] <shadeslayer> Underliner: also : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=129379&postcount=21
[10:20] <user654> let me check
[10:20] <shadeslayer> bah... user654 see above
[10:20] <cjae> and look in third post in Section Screen
[10:21] <user654> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution    this looks better
[10:21] <cjae> it about 2/3 down the post
[10:21] <shadeslayer> !resolution | user654
[10:21] <shadeslayer> bleh... :)
[10:21] <user654> :)
[10:22] <cjae> user654, same section I was trying to show you
[10:22]  * shadeslayer gets to CSI Miami
[10:22] <shadeslayer> +back
[10:23] <cjae> user654, when you read default depth you are there
[10:23] <user654> hmm
[10:24] <cjae> modes are the resolution and first is default unless stated otherwise
[10:24] <user654> cjae: which part
[10:24] <cjae> there is also #xorg
[10:25] <cjae> Section Screens
[10:25] <user654> all right
[10:25] <user654> now I shall try that
[10:26] <user654> cjae: btw the depth is the color depth right ?
[10:26] <cjae> user654, backup first, I went through many systems before I got my had crafted xorg.conf which I keep copy of
[10:26] <cjae> yes
[10:27] <user654> so can I use a value of 32 for that ?
[10:27] <cjae> its not 32 like windows
[10:27] <user654> I have 384mb graphics memory
[10:27] <user654> then?
[10:27] <user654> then ?
[10:27] <cjae> 24 is highest
[10:27] <user654> fine
[10:27] <user654> that too wud do
[10:27] <cjae> eye can only process so much
[10:27] <user654> correct ..
[10:27] <user654> 1 more thing
[10:28] <user654> I just noticed that closing pidgin closed it instead of sending it to tray
[10:28] <user654> why ?
[10:28] <shadeslayer> user654: check that in the settings
[10:28] <cjae> user654, I think the way to do this is much different now, so beware
[10:28] <user654> in settings of what .... pidgin or kde ?
[10:28] <shadeslayer> user654: pidgin
[10:29] <user654> let me check
[10:29] <freinhard> hi!
[10:29] <shadeslayer> !hi | freinhard
[10:29] <user654> yea its there
[10:29] <freinhard> how do i reset my serial port? doesn't work after hibernation.
[10:29] <cjae> look at etc/X11/xorg.conf first and see how it looks user654
[10:29] <user654> its empty
[10:29] <user654> I wasnt getting the 1440x900 thing so I added a modeline
[10:29] <shadeslayer> freinhard: thats probably handled by hal....
[10:30] <shadeslayer> user654: check for backups in /etc/X11/
[10:30] <user654> fine
[10:30] <myself> hey I'm having trouble configuring the "print screen" feature in kubuntu to take a screenshot
[10:30] <shadeslayer> freinhard: try logging out and logging in
[10:31] <shadeslayer> myself: alt+F2 > ksnapshot....for some reaseon prnt screen wont work on KDE
[10:31] <freinhard> shadeslayer: no way, i won't start doing thins i dropped as i quit using windows 5years ago
[10:31] <myself> shadeslayer, how do i bind it
[10:31] <cjae> user654, one sec
[10:32] <myself> is ksnapshot nowhere in the key binding area?
[10:32] <shadeslayer> myself: no idea dude....try in system settings under keyboard
[10:32] <shadeslayer> freinhard: ok wait then for 5 min
[10:32] <myself> yeah i tried that, cant find ksnapshot anywhere
[10:32] <myself> does anyone here know?
[10:33] <myself> ima try to make an input action
[10:33] <user654> cjae: I edited the xorg.conf file
[10:33] <user654> now shall restart X
[10:33] <cjae> user654, http://pastebin.ca/1451659 this my old xorg.conf, it has some errors cause that is the rough copy. but that does
[10:33] <shadeslayer> myself: if nothing works..try xmodmap :)
[10:33] <cjae> hang on
[10:34] <user654> hmm
[10:34] <cjae> one monitor with and nvidia card and tv out to my plasma
[10:34] <shadeslayer> freinhard: sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart
[10:34] <myself> okay i set a shortcut
[10:34] <myself> it works i guess..
[10:35] <cjae> #SubSection "Display"                Modes      "1280x1024" user654 is the part that makes it default screen
[10:35] <freinhard> shadeslayer: already did that, doesn't work
[10:35] <freinhard> shadeslayer: found bug #105380
[10:35] <user654> i added that
[10:35] <shadeslayer> freinhard: bah...no idea then...
[10:35] <freinhard> huh, no bugbot here?
[10:36] <cjae> resolution and Driver    "nvidia" switched to fglrx makes it work for ati agp card on my system
[10:36] <shadeslayer> freinhard: ubottu is the bugbot...not set to display bugs here
[10:36] <user654> cjae: I am about to restart
[10:38] <cjae> what is the state of xorg now is all this old school?
[10:38] <cjae> I heard it works off HAL?
[10:39] <shadeslayer> cjae: itll come in 9.10 i think
[10:39] <cjae> LTS
[10:39] <cjae> ?
[10:39] <shadeslayer> video modes,removal of X,etc etc
[10:39] <shadeslayer> cjae: no..standard release
[10:39] <cjae> 10.4 LTS then
[10:40] <shadeslayer> freinhard: did you try setserial..as mentioned in the bug report?
[10:40] <user654> cjae: I edited it to look like this >> http://pastebin.com/m30b485b9 restarted but still no effect
[10:40]  * cjae wants it be summer
[10:40] <cjae> to
[10:41] <shadeslayer> cjae: it IS summer here :P
[10:41] <user654> cjae: did i miss anything?
[10:41] <cjae> +6degCel here
[10:42] <shadeslayer> cjae: 41 oC here...burn baby burn ;)
[10:43] <shadeslayer> freinhard: if you have a problem you can reopen the bug report :)
[10:43] <cjae> user654, I am just trying to point out somethings to you, sorry I cant help more, I'd got to another buntu box but ppl sleeping in that room and this box has nvidia, so I have a gui config
[10:44] <cjae> I'd go*
[10:44] <shadeslayer> cjae: is he using an intel card??
[10:44] <cjae> shadeslayer, yes
[10:45] <shadeslayer> !intel | cjae
[10:45] <cjae> shadeslayer, I was going to say is it the intel 915 resloution thing
[10:45] <shadeslayer> cjae: so basically his card is *not* supported
[10:45] <cjae> resolution*
[10:46] <shadeslayer> no idea on that...i just know that those cards are black listed
[10:48] <cjae> l8r
[10:48]  * cjae gots to get back to reading
[10:49] <Sky_Out> Ciao
[10:49] <Sky_Out> !list
[10:50] <shadeslayer> Sky_Out: please hunt for factoids in PM
[10:51] <gurzbo> hi
[10:51] <Sky_Out> Hi
[10:51] <shadeslayer> gurzbo: hi
[10:58] <shadeslayer> heh..funny thing...transmission and deluge get tracker timeouts while ktoorent downloads fine..
[10:59] <shadeslayer> *ktorrent
[11:00] <perojok> hello, i have kubuntu and i had install ubuntu64bit, but grub didn't change and i got ones who it was before, can you help me?
[11:00] <perojok> sorry for my english
[11:05] <shadeslayer> perojok: ok which did you install first?? kubuntu or ubuntu??
[11:06] <shadeslayer> perojok: hello??
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> is it me you're looking for ;)
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> hahahahaha
[11:08] <eeos> hi everybody
[11:08] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: nope ;) though i could use some help with neon if you have experience
[11:08] <cjae> Hi, Dr. eeos !
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> none at all, i avoid that whole thing
[11:09] <perojok> shadeslayer: kubuntu at first
[11:09] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: ok...
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: wassup, maybe i can help
[11:09] <eeos> I have some difficulties with 4.2.3 .... it .... is .... so .... painfully .... slow ....
[11:09] <shadeslayer> perojok: ok so kubuntu 9.04?? then you installed ubuntu 9.04??
[11:09] <eeos> (4.2.3 is actually 4.2.4)
[11:10] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: heh..none of the nightly apps work...and i _mean_ none :)
[11:10]  * cjae wonders how many times if any the DR. nick rivera things has been done
[11:10] <cjae> thing*
[11:10] <eeos> it is so slow I actually input this conversation yesterday
[11:10] <perojok> shadeslayer: kubuntu 8.04 then ubuntu 9.04 64bit
[11:11] <shadeslayer> perojok: ok...did you tell the installer to install grub??
[11:11] <Serpardum> Hi.  I "fixed" my resolution modes by adding the screen settings to my empty xorg.conf file.
[11:11] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: oh btw..if youre into superkaramba,i created a new theme :)
[11:12] <Serpardum> So now when I start kubuntu under virtual box it comes up at the max resoluiton of my screen.  I want it a little smaller, but...
[11:12] <shadeslayer> perojok: if not then please get a live CD and see this
[11:12] <shadeslayer> !grub | perojok
[11:12] <eeos> shadeslayer: does superkaramba work with kde >= 4.2
[11:12] <eeos> shadeslayer: ?
[11:12] <shadeslayer> eeos: why not??
[11:12] <perojok> shadeslayer: thanks
[11:12] <Serpardum> when I go to settings->screen my screen goes all wonky and I canbt' see/set anything.  My thinking is that kubuntu is reading the settings and it's different and tries to set it and it breaks.  How do I clean taht up so I can use the settings for the device?
[11:12] <eeos> shadeslayer: I thought it was not ported, with the widgety thing
[11:13] <shadeslayer> perojok: please see the restore how to ;)
[11:13] <shadeslayer> eeos: nope its still alive and kicking
[11:13] <Serpardum> waht file does system->display write to?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: not my bag dude. LXDE, clean and simple, I dont even have wallpaper 99% of the time
[11:14] <eeos> \me: ouch!
[11:14]  * Serpardum wonders why eeos did that backwards
[11:14] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: oh and one more thing...a torrent tracker times out in deluge and transmission but works fine in ktorrent
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: harsh none work, do you have the old debs backed up from the last install :D
[11:15] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: nope :P
[11:15] <eeos> Serpardum: changed keyboard, pressed the wrong key (but that was yesterday in any case)
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: I'd backup the old debs of good working releases, if you get a bad update from neon, rol it back
[11:16] <Serpardum> heh
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: maybe there are settings in deluge / transmission to use DHT etc
[11:16] <eeos> what is neon? a fish?
[11:16] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: ive already set it
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: i used to use neon but gave up with it, too much heartache
[11:16] <shadeslayer> !neon | eeos
[11:16] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: true :)
[11:17] <shadeslayer> brb..nautre calls
[11:17] <shadeslayer> never mind :|
[11:17] <Baheer> hello all
[11:17] <Baheer> I have installed the new version of Ubuntu
[11:18] <Baheer> but I can't run php files
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> !php
[11:18] <Baheer> Ok
[11:19] <shadeslayer> hmm
[11:20] <eeos> my relationships with kde is transforming into a love (4%) hate (80%) relationships .... with a large shady area in the middle ....
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> eeos: me too, i use kde apps but not the DE
[11:20] <shadeslayer> eeos: whats the prolem??
[11:21] <eeos> I have started using xfce
[11:21] <shadeslayer> eeos: KDE too slow??
[11:21] <eeos> shadeslayer: 4.2.4 .... is .... so .... slow .... and .... over taxing .... on my .... laptop
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> eeos: i use lxde, xfce is decent, i also use fluxbox for its killer shortcut key support :)
[11:22] <eeos> shadeslayer: yes, the input of this conversation actually happened yesterday
[11:22] <eeos>  <ActionParsnip>: what is the fastest, in your opinion?
[11:22] <shadeslayer> eeos: hmm..wel since i have a discrete GPU and a T8100.....doesnt really matter :)
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> eeos: flwm is fastest by far
[11:23] <eeos> shadeslayer: is she very discrete?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> imho
[11:23] <eeos> I will give it a go ....
[11:23] <shadeslayer> eeos: i guess its like vista....you upgrade and you find that its 100 times slower than XP
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> eeos: http://awflwm.berlios.de/images/ss-4-24-2004.png
[11:24] <eeos> shadeslayer: I have a Quadro FX, and I can tell you it is taxing that as well
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> !info flwm
[11:24] <shadeslayer> eeos: 8600 MGT
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> my biggest gfx card is an onboard GF 6150 and it runs all DEs great
[11:25] <eeos> well, you just told me you are not using kde anymore for performance issues .... :D
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> eeos: i just like more ram for my apps rather than a glossy frontend
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> eeos: even if i had 16Gb ram, I'd still run lxde
[11:26] <eeos> it takes like 30 sec to start on a Quadro FX with half a ton of RAM available
[11:26]  * shadeslayer has 2.3 GB...wonders how much more could one need
[11:26] <Baheer> how can I enable the module using a2enmod
[11:26] <Baheer> ?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: theres an article on that....
[11:26] <eeos> shadeslayer: 64Gb? :D
[11:26] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: where??
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/memory-module-upgrade,2264.html
[11:27] <eeos> ActionParsnip: why did you choose lxde on flwm?
[11:27] <shadeslayer> eeos: hehehe.....to much for me...i could put myself there :P
[11:27] <eeos> shadeslayer: well, I have that on the server, but not on the laptop .... :D
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> eeos: i have 1gb ram and want maximum performance from my apps, so i lessen the resources inflicted by the basic desktop by using a lighter one
[11:27] <shadeslayer> im thinking of getting 2X4 GB modules
[11:28] <eeos> ActionParsnip: why did you not go for flwm, if it is faster?
[11:28] <eeos> shadeslayer: can you have that on the laptop?
[11:29] <shadeslayer> eeos: this is no laptop....its a MONSTER.....muwhahahaha.....XPS M1530
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> eeos: it is faster. I used to use it on my fileserver until I ditched the x server altogether
[11:29] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: servers dont really need X
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> eeos: thing is, people only think their is kde, xfce and gnome and its simply not the case. Its good to try different DEs to see which you prefer
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: i know, it doesnt have one now
[11:30] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: i have all of them...pekwm and openbox too
[11:30] <eeos> ActionParsnip: but you said flwm was the fastest!
[11:30] <shadeslayer> !fast
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> eeos: fastest depends on config
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> eeos: there are lots of superlight DEs to choose from
[11:31] <eeos> [11:22] <ActionParsnip> eeos: flwm is fastest by far
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> and the next line reads....
[11:31] <shadeslayer> eeos: for his config
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> eeos: its all config dude, i bet my file server boots faster than most systems but its about 7 years old now
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> but that doesnt mean its better or faster, its a hunk of junk
[11:32]  * shadeslayer gets his 17sec bootchart,shows it to ActionParsnip 
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> boots in about 10, to console. no DE
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> gentoo
[11:33] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: 7 sec to console ;)
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> mines 7 years old....
[11:33] <shadeslayer> heheh
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> P3 500Mhz 128Mb ram
[11:33] <eeos> shadeslayer: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/memory-module-upgrade,2264.html <- uses blessed Vista!
[11:33] <m_tadeu> hi everyone
[11:34] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: \o/ i have the same config desktop next to me...
[11:34] <m_tadeu> how can I configure the tap on the touchpad?
[11:34] <eeos> we use 64 bit linux, and it does make a huge difference if you have 4Gb or 64 Gb
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> eeos: not in those tests
[11:34] <eeos> particularly for memory intensive tasks
[11:34] <eeos> ActionParsnip: of course, he uses Vista
[11:34] <shadeslayer> eeos: imho...no
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> eeos: an app will only use as much ram as it needs, the rest will be used as disk cache
[11:35] <shadeslayer> 64 GB is needed for forkbombs
[11:35] <eeos> ActionParsnip: exactly, so if you allocate 40 Gb of vectors, you have better have 64 Gb of memory
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> eeos: yes but if you had 20Tb RAM and only need 40Gb for vectors, the rest isnt used. terefore no speed gain
[11:36] <shadeslayer> bye all...go to pay some bills ;)
[11:36] <eeos> ActionParsnip: and a test run on Vista does not tell you anything about the performances on Linux
[11:36] <shadeslayer> *got
[11:36] <eeos> ActionParsnip: that is rather obvious, does not need a test to know it
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> eeos: true but the apps  you run will only use the ram they need
[11:37] <eeos> ActionParsnip: of course, which means more than 2Gb, particularly if it is half taken by DE and daemons .... :)
[11:37] <eeos> I have to go, the bus is leaving in few minutes!
[11:37] <eeos> have a nice day!
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> again, dpepends on settings. I only have 1Gb and my system runs great
[11:44] <touseef> hi all
[11:44] <touseef> i want to install firefox on kubuntu
[11:44] <touseef> need help,how to do it
[11:45] <m_tadeu> touseef: sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:45] <touseef> let me try
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> touseef: due to its linking with ubuntu-branding you are going to install 100Mb of data
[11:46] <touseef> hmm,.
[11:46] <touseef> m_tadeu your command didnt help
[11:47] <touseef> it says
[11:47] <touseef> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:47] <touseef> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:47] <touseef> is only available from another source
[11:47] <touseef> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:47] <m_tadeu> ;)
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> !info firefox
[11:48] <touseef> it is doign something now
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> its in the main repo so you shouldnt have to play with anything
[11:48] <touseef> lets see wat happenes
[11:48] <m_tadeu> you must have installed from the cd and you always need to update the first time
[11:49] <touseef> i downloaded from firefox setup from mozilla.com
[11:49] <touseef> i have it on my desktop
[11:49] <touseef> but it is zipped
[11:50] <m_tadeu> forget about it....since you're installing from the repo
[11:50] <touseef> repo is wat?
[11:50] <touseef> where can i find it?
[11:51] <m_tadeu> repository...where the packages live....and you install from
[11:51] <touseef> i have add remove programs
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> touseef: you dont actually download files and install them much in ubuntu, you use repos
[11:52] <touseef> oh ok
[11:53] <touseef> do u know ark package?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> touseef: when you use synaptic of apt-get it access a list of servers (can be found in /etc/apt/sources.list) and will install the apps you request, if they can be found
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> touseef: you need to use the repo
[11:53] <touseef> hmm..
[11:53] <touseef> okay
[11:54] <touseef> i am not familier with this really.
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> touseef: remember linux is VERY case sensitive so dont go throwing capitals in there
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> touseef: you'll learn with time
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> touseef: you can copy / paste from the channel to konsole
[11:58] <m_tadeu> does anyone know how to configure the touchpad?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> !touchpad
[12:03] <m_tadeu> ActionParsnip: I'm using karmic(and I know I should be in ubuntu+1, but noone is answering), and there is no ksynaptics nor qsynaptics
[12:03] <Elirips> Hello. I'm trying to rip an audio cd using K3b, but it fails with 'command failed: lame -h ....'. are there any other rippers available for kde?
[12:03] <Elirips> (i have lame installed)
[12:03] <m_tadeu> ActionParsnip: I tryed gsynaptics, but as sson as I boot the config is lost
[12:04] <m_tadeu> Elirips: do you have lame installed?
[12:05] <Elirips> m_tadeu: yes, i have. if i start lame with the arguments passed by k3b i get '/usr/bin/lame: excess arg /home/eli/Music//Peter Fox - Stadtaffe/01 - 01 Alles Neu.mp3'
[12:05] <Elirips> might it be because of the blanks in the filename? must they be enclosed in " or ' ?
[12:06] <jussi01> m_tadeu: regardles, you need to go to #ubuntu+1 and be patient.
[12:07] <m_tadeu> jussi01: I'm there ;) just trying out some knowledge from jaunty...maybe a config file or so
[12:07] <m_tadeu> Elirips: as I recall you can do that from konqueror
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> m_tadeu: wrong channel dude, #ubuntu+1 for karmic support
[12:10] <bigjools> using xdg-open on a URL brings my running Firefox instance to the current desktop, is there a way of making kwin go to the desktop that FF is already running on?
[12:19] <HumpBack> Hello All. I'm havin serious issues with Nvidia drivers. I get messages in dmesg ( NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 13, 0001 00000000 00005039 00000328 00000000 00000023 ) and the display starts to flicker like hell. Then the display gets all garbaged. http://mail.felisberto.net/~humpback/kubuntu-issues.png
[12:19] <HumpBack> This is a jaunty install
[12:20] <HumpBack> And I'm not using desktop effects
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> HumpBack: how did you instal the driver?
[12:30] <HumpBack> apt-get install
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> hat did you apt-get install?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> which package name
[12:32] <HumpBack> I dont remember. It was a few months ago
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> HumpBack: try:  history | grep -i nvi
[12:33] <brain-financiers> un-install the driver
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> HumpBack: if you run:   kdesudo nvidia-settings     does it say you are not using a driver?
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> HumpBack: i'd go with brain-financiers and reinstall the driver
[12:33] <brain-financiers> no driver is necessary
[12:33] <HumpBack> nvidia-settings reports 185.18.14
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> HumpBack: ok then try setting different settings, like refresh rate and resolutions. start low-ish then crank slowly higher
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> testing all the way. When you reach something ok, write the setting to xorg.conf
[12:35] <brain-financiers> just unplug the whole device
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> brain-financiers: "whole device"?
[12:36] <HumpBack> It's a laptop
[12:36] <brain-financiers> try removing the power
[12:36] <HumpBack> ........
[12:36] <bazhang> not good advice brain-financiers
[12:36] <HumpBack> The classic
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> HumpBack: i'd ignore that stuff
[12:37] <brain-financiers> I mean to unplug, take out the battery
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> how will that fix video issues?
[12:37] <HumpBack> ActionParsnip: I was just going to feed the troll.....
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> HumpBack: i eat them for breakfast
[12:37] <bazhang> brain-financiers, please refrain from nonsense advice
[12:37] <brain-financiers> text, not video
[12:37] <Matisse> hi
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> brain-financiers: welcome to ignore land
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> !hi | Matisse
[12:38] <Matisse> The not-maximized windows in KDE are to big in default. How do I change that?
[12:38] <Matisse> Hi ActionParsnip
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> Matisse: if you alt + drag them down, then maximise. do they fill the screen properly?
[12:39] <Matisse> yes, they do
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> cool
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> i think you can then ctrl + alt and click the X in the top right and it rememebers the location
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> or is that just a placebo and the system is remembering the position anyroad
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> might be ctrl+shift
[12:42] <Matisse> and now I have to do this for every different program?
[12:52] <Matisse> well, i found something in the kde kontrollzentrum the would solve this problem on a different way, but it doesn't work:   allow the size change of maximized windows...
[12:52] <Matisse> restarting kde... maybe it help
[12:52] <Matisse> s
[13:01] <Matisse> well, didn't help
[13:03] <peabody> Hey I've got a question about a kernel module that I'm curious about. Under the 32bit menu there's a menu to compile using 64bit code to manage memory and IO devices, which I've enabled. It works flawlessly, but I do not believe it is using PAE. Is there somewhere I can find discussion on this? Everything I google for is either enabling PAE or installing 64bit kernel
[13:04] <Milchschnitte> Hi! Is there any QT4 Browser, which can read HTML5
[13:04] <Milchschnitte> ?
[13:06] <JontheEchidna> Milchschnitte: arora can, I think
[13:12] <Matisse> using specific windows properties doesnt change anything too... why is this kde4 so buggy?!?
[13:13] <Milchschnitte> JontheEchidna: Thanks... But not all new Stuff of HTML5 works in arora
[13:14] <JontheEchidna> HTML5 support in anything is still young :)
[13:14] <HumpBack> ActionParsnip: Hello again. I removed the driver and removed all the extra package sources I had. I also removed the xorg.conf and rebooted. I'm now running with the default NV driver.
[13:14] <HumpBack> How do I now install the nvidia-driver?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> HumpBack: kdesudo jockey-kde
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> !info jockey-kde
[13:16] <Milchschnitte> JontheEchidna: In the Safari 4 BETA, my test page worked nearly perfect
[13:16] <HumpBack> ActionParsnip: It just tells me no proprietary drivers are in use on my system
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> HumpBack: ok then run: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-gte install nvidia-glx-180
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> should do it
[13:29] <mind-machine> Has anyone ever used the package "unplug mind machine"?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> never
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> !find unplug
[13:38] <Guest21071> ddd
[13:40] <mind-machine> I am hoping to find a package called "unplug mind machine", which shuts off noisy brainwave entrainment frequencies.
[13:40] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: dude is there a way to reduce mem usage by transfering things to swap??
[13:40]  * shadeslayer plays moon-buggy
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> you can increase swappiness
[13:41] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: apart from that??
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> thats all i got, you could increase the nice value of the app when you run it
[13:42] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: that never works for me..ive tried setting swap to 100....nothing
[13:42] <shadeslayer> k
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> try giving a nice value of say -5
[13:43] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: naa....ill leave that to the system...
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> it may keep the app in ram more as its being given to the cpu more
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> the app is using the cpu more times than normal
[13:43] <kurumin> hi
[13:44] <mind-machine> brain-financier's "power" refers to electricity
[13:44] <kurumin> i am brazilian
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> its worth a try, even for a single launch, if its better you can modify the menu icon to always use it
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> !br
[13:44] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:44] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: k thanks ;)
[13:45] <kurumin> thank you ubottu
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> !away > Blueskaj-gone
[14:10] <shadeslayer> rough day
[14:11] <shadeslayer> whoops..wrong channel :P
[14:18] <bibstha> hi all.. a quick help
[14:18] <ahmad_> hi
[14:18] <bibstha> how can i use multiple DISPLAY
[14:19] <bibstha> like say the default DISPLAY:0 is the currently logged in one..
[14:19] <bibstha> is should be possible to create a new one right?
[14:19] <bibstha> ctrl+alt+f7 f8 ..?
[14:20] <ahmad_> u mean dual monitor ?
[14:20] <bibstha> ahmad_, no same monitor but multiple graphical screens..
[14:20] <bibstha> like ctrl+alt+f1 and f2 and f3 have multiple command lines..
[14:21] <bibstha> sth similar for GUI?
[14:21] <ahmad_> never heard of such thing
[14:21] <ahmad_> have googled arround ?
[14:21] <ahmad_> bibstha: try to google for multibale x session
[14:22] <ahmad_> my browsing is down
[14:22] <ahmad_> bibstha: see this linuxguide.sourceforge.net/linux-X-multiple.html
[14:22] <bibstha> ahmad_, thanks lemme see that, also turning the linux cookbook :)
[14:31] <vadim> hi, people
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> do you mean like a double seater pc?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> !hi | vadim
[14:32] <vadim> do you like a new karmic distro?
[14:33] <jussi01> vadim: karmic support in #ubuntu+1 please, offtopic in #kubuntu-offtopic
[14:35] <bibstha> ActionParsnip, no single seater.. :)
[14:35] <bibstha> what Im trying to achieve is one xserver on DISPLAY:0 for normal work
[14:35] <bibstha> and another xserver on DISPLAY:1 for
[14:35] <bibstha> testing stuffs.
[14:35] <bibstha> like selenium.. have u used it?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> !xinerama
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> bibstha: nvidia does that very well. You can edit xorg.conf to make that happen
[14:37] <bibstha> ActionParsnip, thanks taking alook
[14:38] <bibstha> ActionParsnip, its not two different monitos
[14:38] <bibstha> its single monitor
[14:38] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, an away nick change doesn't constitute a noisy message .. it merely a statement
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> still polutes the channel. Ive had ops on me about if before
[14:40] <BluesKaj> well , just because they're bored and picky , doesn't mean you need to be too :)
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> true ;)
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> just following the ops example. save you getting rollocked later
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> ikon is particular about it ;)
[14:41] <genii> BluesKaj: It's Standard Operating Procedure to give !away to those who change their nicks instead of using the /away command
[14:41] <BluesKaj> I have no icons ...disappeared after the latest upgrade , but I'm on karmic so i guess i should expect that
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> then #ubuntu+1 for you BluesKaj
[14:42] <BluesKaj> genii, ??
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> you want alpha software, you get all the issues that go with it, bad times :(
[14:42] <BluesKaj> yup, ActionParsnip i'm there , but no one else seems to be
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> but helps with bug reports etc :)
[14:43] <BluesKaj> kinda interesting to use the run command to launch apps
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: lxde has that in its menu
[14:44] <Cerrdor> how do I configure /weather for konversation?
[14:44] <BluesKaj> the kde theme icons were upgrading and then after rebooting ...had a power failure here this morning due to storms west of us
[14:44] <BluesKaj> disaappeared
[14:45] <BluesKaj> anyway ,, BBL
[14:45] <Cerrdor> anyone know how to get weather to work on konversation?
[14:49] <ehamberg> hi. i have a dual monitor setup. if i log into gnome and run gnome-display-properties, i can choose to not mirror the screens, but this is not possible in the kde settings for display. if i run gnome-display-properties form kde i get this error:
[14:49] <ehamberg> Method "ApplyConfiguration" with signature "" on interface "org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.XRANDR" doesn't exist
[14:49] <ehamberg> how can i make this work in kde? :/
[14:53] <jean_pierre_cz> hi, some news about Raptor?
[14:57] <Cerrdor> how do I configure /weather for konversation?
[15:03] <thething> hi all
[15:04] <victim> Cerrdor: what should /weather do?
[15:05] <Cerrdor> should print local weather info in a channel
[15:05] <Cerrdor> its a script preinstalled on konversation
[15:06] <victim> I just tried /weather
[15:06] <victim> [D-Bus] Error: Could not find script "weather".
[15:07] <victim> join #konversation and ask the konvi experts :)
[15:07] <victim> oh you have
[15:07] <Cerrdor> yupp
[15:10] <piero> ciao a tutti
[15:10]  * jean_pierre_cz lol
[15:11] <radi82> Is there a function in Quassel to reset the red line, which marks what you have allready read? Like Ctrl+M in X-Chat.
[15:11] <jean_pierre_cz> dunno but would like to know it too
[15:13] <radi82> jean_pierre_cz: I never used an english chat-client. If you could tell me how this feature is called in X-Chat or some other chat i'd google it up ;)
[15:13] <jean_pierre_cz> wait a minute
[15:14] <genii> !it | peter47
[15:16] <genii> radi82: They may know in #quassel channel
[15:16] <radi82> genii: Thx. I'll try.
[15:20] <Guest17898> can somebody please tell me why i dont get displayed the mac addess when i am using nmap..
[15:28] <Guest17898> nobody?
[15:48] <Guest17898> somebody know how to use metasploit for self test?
[15:49] <besitzer> hi
[15:49] <besitzer> kann mir einer ma helfen
[15:50] <PhilRod> !de
[15:51] <besitzer> hi
[15:53] <besitzer> i have a little problem  i dont
[15:53] <besitzer> 	Übersetzung: Deutsch » Englisch
[15:53] <besitzer> ich habe ein kleines problem ich kann nicht mehr auf knetworkmanager zugreifen hat einer eine lösung	 	
[15:53] <besitzer> I have a small problem I can no longer access knetworkmanager,
[16:00] <mark_> Amarok......sometimes it works most times it doesnt
[16:16] <radi82> jean_pierre_cz: I asked in #quassel and they don't have this feature iplemented yet. But they seemed quit interisted in it an i filed a featurerequest on their HP.
[16:16] <jean_pierre_cz> cool
[16:18] <yao_ziyuan> can anyone use kwrite's replace?
[16:18] <yao_ziyuan> 4.2.4.
[16:20] <nascentmind> hi. hi. my krunner seems to be crashing sometimes but it cannot load debugging symbols. how do i enable the debug symbols for it?
[16:20] <JontheEchidna> the debugging symbols for krunner are in the kdebase-workspace-dbg package
[16:21] <nascentmind> JontheEchidna, ah thanks.. also my kded of kwallet crashes when i try to put the passkey of my wifi .. where should i find the dbg symbols for that?
[16:21] <JontheEchidna> kwallet... I think that's kdebase-runtime-dbg
[16:22] <JontheEchidna> installing kdebase-workspace-dbg should bring that in I would think
[16:25] <nascentmind> JontheEchidna,  ah thanks
[16:26] <JontheEchidna> yw
[16:31] <beagleburt>  G'day from New Zealand evry1! Problem with K-8.04 LTS playing videos with Kaffeine - Plays ok from boot, but 2nd vid throws up "libdvdcss" problem - i went to the suggested site & downloaded/installed but kaffeine refuses to play unless freshly rebooted...? Any advice welcome.
[16:39] <oheric> Hello?
[16:40] <beagleburt> !Hello?|oheric
[16:40] <oheric> Lol. I kinda stumbled on this place from the support page on ubuntu.com
[16:41] <oheric> I was wondering if someone could help me, I'm a complete and total noob when it comes to Ubuntu
[16:41] <beagleburt> <oheric > - wots the problem?
[16:42] <oheric> Well I'm trying to set Windows XP as my default OS. I found the file to change /boot/grub/menu.lst and I made the correct changes but I don't have permission to save the file. I'm read only. How can I get permission to write on the file?
 - Have you tried "sudo"?
[16:45] <oheric> Ahh thanks!
[16:45] <cheryl> hey channel; new install and i'm having a new-to-me very annoying problem with mouse: works fine in konsole and most apps, but not in firefox, konqueror, konversation...
[16:45] <oheric> Drivers?
 - cud u b more specific?
[16:46] <cheryl> basically left-clicking anything will highlight entire work, instead of moving cursor there, drop down menus don't work, can't highlight anything to copy...
[16:46] <cheryl> right-clicking doesn't work either...anyone know how to fix this thing that I don't know how it got screwed up in teh first place?
[16:47] <oheric> Yeah sorry. Cheryl you may need Drivers for your mouse.
[16:47] <cheryl> but it was working fine without drivers...???
[16:47] <trappist> cheryl: I wonder if you have a stuck key that's modifying the click events.  bit of a wild guess really.
[16:48] <cheryl> that's possible, any idea how to find out?
 - mayB try a nu Kbd?
[16:48] <trappist> oh you know what might be a better guess, that the clicks are sending double-clicks
[16:48] <beagleburt> nu mouse ?
[16:49] <trappist> sounds like what happens to me as my mice age... do you have another mouse to try as a troubleshooting step?
[16:49] <cheryl> will try new mouse...have lots
[16:49] <cheryl> hold on
[16:49] <beagleburt> BRB
[16:50] <beagleburt> G'day room
[16:51] <beagleburt> Any1 got any thorts on my original post rekaffeine on K-8.04LTS?
[16:52] <cheryl> trappist: new mouse, same problem; kbrd is new, too, although I haven't changed that, and kybrd was working fine anyway
[16:52] <trappist> no offense to anyone present, but I think I need to write an irssi plugin to auto-ignore people who spell like they're texting
[16:54] <Ash-Fox> Why doesn't Linux use the system clock? Instead it grabs the current time off the system clock when it boots and uses some weird math to keep it ticking and then synchs it back when it shuts down again. Why does it do this?
[16:55] <trappist> cheryl: I'm thinking... still sounds like it's doubleclicking, but it's obviously not a hardware problem... trying to think of a software problem that could cause it
[16:55] <cheryl> trappist: i think this is a problem with the OS and app software - not the hardware
 - What distros?
[16:55] <cheryl> trappist: we're thinking alike :)
[16:55] <trappist> agreed
[16:56] <cheryl> beagleburt: using hardy
[16:56] <beagleburt> ok ta
[16:56] <cheryl> actually, i'm an experienced rebuilder...nic is for new user i'm giving this refurbished webserver to
[16:57] <cheryl> and it's wierd, with all my experience, i've never had/seen this issue b4, lol
[16:57] <trappist> cheryl: could you run xev, click once in it, and pastie the console output?
[16:58] <cheryl> !pastebin
[17:00] <cheryl> trappist: http://paste.ubuntu.com/190967/
[17:00] <trappist> cheryl: also maybe check out this thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-x@lists.debian.org/msg70151.html
[17:01] <cheryl> that's quite the load of information :(
[17:02] <irvan> hi
[17:02] <irvan> all
[17:03] <trappist> cheryl: I don't see *any* click events in there
[17:04] <trappist> cheryl: you clicked in the window?
[17:04] <cheryl> which window?
[17:05] <trappist> the xev window when it was up
[17:05] <trappist> run xev from a console, put your mouse cursor in the xev window, click once or twice, quit and pastie
[17:06] <cheryl> trappist: sorry...lemme try again
[17:07] <trappist> cheryl: one possible cause, apparently, is having two stanzas in your xorg.conf for meeces
[17:08] <cheryl> trappist: http://paste.ubuntu.com/190973/...k will check out xorg.conf
[17:09] <trappist> cheryl: weird, I *still* don't see any click events in that output
[17:10] <beagleburt> Repeat Q. from over 30xmin ago: K-8.04LTS > Kaffeine plays 1st vid ok but then throws up "libdvdcss" problem > download & install file but Kaffeine refuses to play unless i reboot...?
[17:10] <cheryl> trappist: well, there most certainly were lots of mouse actions in this last pastebin
[17:10] <trappist> yes but no clicks
[17:10] <trappist> just movements
[17:11] <alexandre> ola a todos
[17:11] <cheryl> trappist: well, I know I did a few of those, too...but the output was very long, and I got as much of it as I could into pastebin
[17:12] <genii> !br | alexandre
[17:12] <cheryl> trappist: hold on, I've modified xorg, will have to logout for a bit, will be back
[17:12] <trappist> cheryl: try "xev > output.txt"
[17:12] <trappist> ok
[17:14] <cheryl> hmm: 'xev > output.txt' , doing the events, and then closing xev got me: XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0", followed by "      after 28 requests (28 known processed) with 0 events remaining."
[17:16] <cheryl> trappist: does that info help you any, before i log out to restart x?
[17:18] <shadeslayer> hi,ktorrent keeps closing on its own,any ideas??
[17:21] <shadeslayer> heh..it just crashed again!!
[17:21] <acdd> I have 3 primary partitions on my current harddisc. is it possible to create a 4th, extended one and create a logical partition within that and install Ubuntu there? in other words, does Ubuntu boot from a logical partition?
[17:21] <trappist> cheryl: it should have produced a files called output.txt - you can open that in a text editor, select all and copy, for the pastebin
[17:21] <shadeslayer> acdd: no OS can boot from a logical partition i believe,or maybe im wrong
[17:22] <cheryl> trappist: problem fixed...had been following a howto for this aiw 7500 card, so commenting out 2 lines in xorg.conf has restored my mouse to the way it was :)
[17:22] <trappist> cheryl: awesome!
[17:22] <tsimpson> I'm sure grub can boot from a logical partition
[17:23] <acdd> alright, I guess I have to try that then.
[17:23] <cheryl> trappist: thank you...we go back a long way, ya know...that's why I listened to you right away: you're an awesome helper :)
[17:23] <trappist> cheryl: I think this was my once a day where somebody has an interesting problem and knows how to ask questions, so I can take a nap now :)
[17:23] <trappist> oh, thanks!
[17:23] <cheryl> so ur telling me i had an interesting problem and asked the question properly?
[17:23] <trappist> did you use a different nick before?  'cheryl' doesn't ring any bells
[17:24] <trappist> you did, and you did, it was a pleasure :)
[17:24] <tsimpson> acdd: grub is the boot loaded ubuntu uses, so just install as normal to the logical partition
[17:24] <cheryl> yes, I'm normally 'dennister' a reg nic...but this machine will be for a new linux user
[17:24] <cheryl> genii knows me personally...worked together for a brief time here in toronto
[17:24] <acdd> tsimpson: alright, thank you.
[17:25] <trappist> ah, gotcha
[17:25] <acdd> toronto, eh?
[17:25] <acdd> Canada rules =)
[17:25] <trappist> cheryl: so, you're not even a girl?? if I'd known that... j/k
[17:25] <cheryl> acdd: u a canuck, too? in tranna?
[17:25] <acdd> no... but I've been there and I liked it
[17:25] <acdd> anyway, thanks for your help :)
[17:26] <trappist> cheryl: hey, I collect canadian coins
[17:26] <cheryl> trappist: actually, I am a woman...old enuf to be a grandmother...just use a male-sounding nic for reasons I won't go into :)
[17:26] <trappist> cheryl: smart move!
[17:26] <acdd> hehe
[17:27] <cheryl> anyway, gott close this box down now and get to work on the other one that will also be picked up on Wed afternoon
[17:27] <trappist> me, I use the nick of a monk who has taken a vow of celibacy, but that's mostly coincidence
[17:27] <cheryl> cya...and thanks :-)
[17:27] <trappist> any time
[17:31]  * shadeslayer keeps a eye on nepomuk
[17:31] <acdd> do I have any disadvantage when using kubuntu instead of ubuntu? or are there maintained with equal effort, no one staying behind?
[17:31] <shadeslayer> acdd: both are equal in packages except for the DE
[17:32] <shadeslayer> acdd: you can even install gnome (ubuntu) on kubuntu (KDE)
[17:32] <trappist> acdd: they are both officially supported, and they both keep up to date with parent projects.  but new initiatives sometimes have gnome support before they have kde support.
[17:33] <trappist> like, canonical just put something or other into beta, I forget the name of it, and I dropped out of the beta for lack of kde support
[17:34] <shadeslayer> acdd: always best to install gnome and kde so if one crashes (quite unlikely) you still have a DE and not a CLI interface :)
[17:35] <valgaav> shadeslayer: and if the crash is X releated ? :D
[17:36] <shadeslayer> ktorrent crashes for the third time and its out of my system
[17:36] <shadeslayer> valgaav: then we have the recovery console :)
[17:36] <Raven> Is there a way to use LEAP in Kubunut?  I've tried setting up WPA PEAP with Equifax cert and it won't connect.
[17:37] <shadeslayer> Raven: i think there is a issue with WPA authentication
[17:37] <Raven> DOH
[17:37] <petsounds> hello, where can i add startup applications? thanks
[17:37] <shadeslayer> !startup | petsounds
[17:38] <Raven> I'm on Ubuntu and I really like the look of Kubuntu but I need WPA to access my college's internet.  No known works arounds shadeslayer?
[17:38] <silver> hi all
[17:38] <shadeslayer> Raven: please see the release notes for further info...i really dont have much on the above said issue :)
[17:39] <shadeslayer> Raven: you could use 8.10 :)
[17:39] <susbwoy> Raven: it's also only for wpa2 networks, wpa should work.
[17:39] <Raven> Shadeslayer: I could, the problem being I don't have a CD with me and I really wanted to start playing with it now lol.  Can't install it, guess I'll have to wait.
[17:39] <Raven> Susbwoy: ya this is a WPA2 Business or whatever it is
[17:40] <shadeslayer> Raven: get one from shipit or download one
[17:41] <shadeslayer> oh...shipit wont send 8.10..doh..
[17:41] <Raven> Shadeslayer: ya I know I can download it, I just don't have a blank CD on me and I wanted to play with it right now.  Not a big issue though.  8.10 works though you believe?
[17:41] <shadeslayer> Raven: USB install :P...
[17:41] <acdd> shadeslayer, trappist: thank you :) so far I had major problems with my ATI graphics card (I bought an ATI one before I learned that it causes huge troubles on linux). do you think this is gnome related? or will the same happen on kde?
[17:41] <Raven> Shadeslayer: My laptop is FAIL and I can't set the BIOS to boot to USB :-(
[17:42] <shadeslayer> Raven: too bad :(
[17:42] <susbwoy> Raven: kubuntu 9.04 had some issues with the knetworkmanager, if you use gnome, wpa2 will work
[17:42] <shadeslayer> acdd: i think the issue is with ATI not giving proper drivers
[17:42] <shadeslayer> Raven: yep...you can use the gnome-network-manager
[17:42] <Raven> susbwoy: I know I'm on regular Ubuntu right now, but I liked Kubuntu for the KDE is just seems cleaner and quicker.
[17:43] <shadeslayer> Raven: quicker?? hahaha
[17:43] <Raven> Oh you mean use the gnome-network-manager?
[17:43] <Raven> shadeslayer: honestly it seems to boot quicker than ubuntu idk why.
[17:43] <shadeslayer> Raven: yes,instead of knetwork-manager
[17:43] <shadeslayer> Raven: 0_o
[17:44] <Raven> susbwoy shadeslayer: do you have to download gnome-network-manager through synaptic if so that won't work because I can't connect to the net.  Another problem I'm having with Kubuntu is I try to plug in a ethernet cable and type in the netmask as 255.255.254.0 and it just goes to 0?  SO I can't connect anyway through Kubuntu.
[17:45] <susbwoy> Raven: try using iphere/23
[17:45] <Raven> susbwoy what's that?
[17:46] <susbwoy> Raven: ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1/23 up
[17:47] <Raven> susbwoy it's a manual ip, is there a way to set up a manual ip through konsole?
[17:47] <beagleburt> G'day *AGAIN* from New Zealand evry1! Problem with K-8.04 LTS playing videos with Kaffeine - Plays ok from boot, but 2nd vid throws up "libdvdcss" problem - i went to the suggested site
[17:48] <susbwoy> I give up, cya
[17:48] <shadeslayer> Raven: ipconfig
[17:48] <beagleburt> & downloaded/installed but kaffeine refuses to play unless freshly rebooted...? Any advice welcome.
[17:48] <Raven> susbwoy: thanks anyway
[17:48] <Raven> Shadeslayer: thanks i'll try that and I'll try editing the interface file, thanks.
[17:48] <shadeslayer> Raven: man ipconfig can help alot
[17:49] <acdd> does the DVD version include the alternate installer so I can use full disc encryption with AES?
[17:49] <shadeslayer> Raven: if its a wireless network then man iwconfig
[17:49] <shadeslayer> !adhoc
[17:50] <acdd> !alternate
[17:51] <shadeslayer> now that is surely not up to date
[17:51] <shadeslayer> acdd: try it again
[17:51] <acdd> !alternate
[17:51] <shadeslayer> gives me a diff. thing in PM
[17:52] <shadeslayer> any op here??
[17:56] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[17:58] <petsounds> somebody please look at this screenshot http://s362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/petsoundsband/?action=view&current=Ooo.png, And tell me how to do step no.3. thanks
[18:00] <shadeslayer> petsounds: one sec
[18:01] <shadeslayer> petsounds: go to system > pref. > start up applications
[18:02] <shadeslayer> petsounds: oh....this is for gnome :)
[18:02] <petsounds> shadeslayer: yes sir
[18:02] <shadeslayer> petsounds: and you want it to auto start in KDE?
[18:02] <petsounds> shadeslayer: yes
[18:03] <shadeslayer> petsounds: open K > system settings > advanced tab > autostart
[18:04] <petsounds> shadeslayer: ok, and then?
[18:05] <shadeslayer> petsounds: then add a new command as it says
[18:07] <petsounds> shadeslayer: ok, need to reboot. brb
[18:23] <beagleburt> Problem: K-8.04 LTS > Kaffeine > refuses to play DVD - "libdvdcss" problem - BUT i have installed it. > REBOOT > plays ok > 2nd DVD > "libdvdcss" problem again until i reboot????
[18:24] <alonk> f
[18:25] <monolith> How would I stop a user account on my computer from being able to play audio at all?
[18:38] <monolith> What the... This user account isn't in the group "audio" so it should be able to write to /dev/audio. Sure enough when I use su to login to the account and try to cat /dev/random to the audio device I get permision denied. But if I open up a new graphical login and login to KDE4 with it. I suddenly can play audio and output to /dev/audio. What on earth?
[18:49] <beagleburt> PROBLEM SOLVED:K-8.04LTS>http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/134771-solved-kaffeine-will-not-work-2.html
[18:51] <trappist> beagleburt: sweet
[18:59] <cyrex> buenas
[18:59] <cyrex> tengo un problema con la tarjeta de video en kubuntu 9.04 es una nvidia 8400
[18:59] <cyrex> como puedo hacer para instalar los driver de ella de una forma facil
[18:59] <Peace-> !es | cyrex
[18:59] <cyrex> acabo de instalar el kubuntu ahorita mismo
[19:00] <cyrex> whoops
[19:00] <cyrex> sorry
[19:00] <Peace-> no problem amigo
[19:13] <ole_> Hi, I'm having som problems with upgrading my fresh installation off kubuntu 9.04. When trying to do an apt-get upgrade I get the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/191035/. Could some one please take a look at the error message? I have been trying everything I can think of without any luck.
[19:14] <cyrex> i need some help with my installation of kubuntu 9.04
[19:14] <cyrex> i don't know how to install the nvidia drivers
[19:15] <cyrex> any help would be apreciated
[19:15] <cyrex> anyone
[19:16] <bdgraue> cyrex: kmenu -> applications -> system -> hardware drivers
[19:16] <cyrex> yes
[19:16] <cyrex> many thanks bdgraue
[19:16] <cyrex> that was it
[19:17] <ole_> bdgraue: thx, was going to need that when I manage to fix my depencecy problem..
[19:17] <bdgraue> ?
[19:17] <bdgraue> ah, ok
[19:18] <bdgraue> ole_: sry, don't know how to help you, maybe something like   sudo apt-get -f install   ?
[19:18] <ole_> I have tried that, same error message
[19:19] <bdgraue> ole_: so you have to wait until someone with enough knowledge can answer your question :)
[19:20] <ole_> ok, thx anyway
[19:28] <un-ku> I need help on connecting vial dial up to the net. OS is kubuntu 9.04
[19:28] <chris__> hi
[19:29] <chris__> i've got a problem with amarok 2.1 in kubuntu jaunty.
[19:29] <un-ku> hi
[19:29] <chris__> the error message is "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "
[19:30] <chris__> it works when i start amarok as root
[19:33] <un-ku> Seems it may be better to go to some forum?
[19:35] <Peace-> un-ku: ?
[19:38] <un-ku> I mean no ones joining with advice, tho a line at the top says 'Official Kubuntu support. Or am I at the wrong place?
[19:39] <bdgraue> un-ku: the place is right
[19:41] <un-ku> so will somebody suggest how i can fix up a ppoe connection to the net?
[19:45] <un-ku> cris_ amarok 2.0.2 on kubuntu 9.04 is working fine for me, tho i had to download some stuff.
[19:46] <bdgraue> un-ku: if you find a good solution for that, please give me a hint, need that for a friend of mine :)
[19:46] <bdgraue> un-ku: pppoe i mean
[19:48] <un-ku> well i'm searching, what ive noticed is that each higher version is making things more complicated in this matter (ppoe connection)
[19:51] <bdgraue> un-ku: thats why my buddy is using feisty... ^^
[19:52] <un-ku> sorry i didn't get that. Absltly new to Linux. So Waht is feisty?
[19:52] <bdgraue> an earlier version of kubuntu
[19:52] <bdgraue> april 2007 i think?
[19:53] <Unksi> yeah april 07
[19:55] <un-ku> well cant we avoid going back in time?
[19:58] <robin0800> un-ku: You could try Kppp
[20:00] <un-ku> just came across a useful post in Kubunti forums on getting ethernet going, in K 8.10. that may bbbbbe helpful, so here's the url-http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3100052.0v
[20:04] <robin0800> un-ku: don't think thats going to help with dial up
[20:05] <robin0800> un-ku: httphttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[20:06] <robin0800> un-ku: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[20:06] <un-ku> thanks for the reference.
[20:07] <snarkster1> anyone got any good news on web cam apps?
[20:07] <snarkster1> I wanna take a few pics
[20:10] <snarkster1> guess thats a no to my question
[20:10] <bdgraue> robin0800: there is no graphical frontend for kde, am i right?
[20:10] <harolddong> what the?!
[20:13] <darkmatter_> i'm having trouble with my bluetooth mouse, any ideas?
[20:13] <jussi01> darkmatter_: make and model?
[20:13] <jussi01> darkmatter_: and exact problem?
[20:14] <darkmatter_> it's a Dell travelmate mouse
[20:14] <darkmatter_> was working fine
[20:14] <darkmatter_> until earlier today
[20:14] <jussi01> so what did you do between now and then?
[20:15] <ole_> Hi, I have a problem with twinview on my fully updated kubuntu 9.04. when maximizing a window it stretches over both screens is it possible to fix this?
[20:15] <darkmatter_> absolutely nothing
[20:15] <jussi01> Have yu updated? changed something?
[20:15] <darkmatter_> the kbluetooth interface is not very helpful
[20:16] <declanpwalsh> Hello Kubunters!
[20:16] <darkmatter_> the mouse is listed as "not-connected" and "not trusted"
[20:16] <jussi01> hi declanpwalsh
[20:16] <darkmatter_> i don't even get an interface for managing paired devices
[20:16] <declanpwalsh> Can anyone help with a sata hd access problem
[20:16] <declanpwalsh> Please?
[20:16] <jussi01> declanpwalsh: please tell the issue.
[20:17] <jussi01> darkmatter_: honestly, I dont know. Im sorry.
[20:17] <declanpwalsh> Basically got a nice new sata drive 250gb. Formatted to ext3 using gparted (can never get qtparted to work) and shows up in dolphin but I can't write to it. Need it as a backup drive
[20:17] <darkmatter_> i tried removing the device and reinstalling the mouse, that worked temporarily but failed after the next reboot
[20:18] <un-ku> bdgraue: about the ppoe connection - this may be of help- http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3104277.0v
[20:18] <darkmatter_> declanpwalsh: what's the output of mount?
[20:19] <declanpwalsh> darkmatter: huh?
[20:19] <jussi01> !pppoe
[20:20] <darkmatter_> declanpwalsh: run the mount command in a terminal
[20:21] <darkmatter_> the output should show wether the device is mounted as read-only
[20:21] <bdgraue> un-ku: i dont know if this is the right thing for me, sry
[20:21] <tonii> !dailup
[20:22] <tonii> !dialup
[20:22] <tonii> ah, the same
[20:22] <declanpwalsh> /dev/sdb1 on /media/disk-1 type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
[20:22] <declanpwalsh> /dev/sdb2 on /media/disk-2 type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
[20:23] <darkmatter_> which is the disk?
[20:23] <declanpwalsh> both are. It's partitioned into 2
[20:23] <darkmatter_> can you write to it as root?
[20:25] <declanpwalsh> darkmatter: full output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/191085/
[20:25] <declanpwalsh> haven't tried. hang on
[20:27] <declanpwalsh> typed sudo dolphin and something went wrong. session ended. something about ksmserver
[20:27] <hftom>  hi all, just installed kubuntu 9.04 on an old laptop with intel 82845G. kdm works fine, but when the user X session is started, all i can see is the kdm background image. alt+f1 shows kickoff, alt+f2 shows krunner, and all apps seems to work fine. Except that plasma looks 100% transparent! Any idea?
[20:28] <declanpwalsh> managed to write to the disk as root though. why would i need root access?
[20:28] <darkmatter_> try "sudo echo 1234 > /media/disk-1/file"
[20:29] <declanpwalsh> $ sudo echo 1234 > /media/disk-1/file
[20:29] <declanpwalsh> bash: /media/disk-1/file: Permission denied
[20:33] <darkmatter_> declanpwalsh: sudo parted -l
[20:34] <declanpwalsh> what does that do?
[20:34] <darkmatter_> lists the partition table
[20:35] <declanpwalsh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/191094/
[20:40] <declanpwalsh> is that good or bad? why is it readonly?
[20:40] <declanpwalsh> thanks for helping btw!
[20:40] <darkmatter_> that's the floppy drive
[20:40] <darkmatter_> well i don't seem to be of much help
[20:41] <darkmatter_> nothing looks out of the ordinary
[20:41] <darkmatter_> did qtparted return an error when you tried to run it?
[20:42] <declanpwalsh> nope. just nothing happened.
[20:42] <declanpwalsh> whats the floppy? Cos I don't have one.
[20:43] <declanpwalsh> any pointers as to where to look for some help? Thanks very much for having a go!
[20:44] <tomsdale> how can I override the dns resolution for one particular address? /etc/hosts doesn'T seem to work
[20:44] <darkmatter_> tomsdale: you may need to restart networking after adding an entry
[20:45] <tomsdale> darkmatter_: thanks - brb
[20:45] <darkmatter_> declanpwalsh: try repartitioning the disk
[20:45] <declanpwalsh> darkmatter: cool, thanks!
[20:46] <declanpwalsh> darkmatter: thanks for the help; really appreciate it.
[20:46] <darkmatter_> this doesn't help my poor mouse
[20:47] <tomsdale> how do I restart the wireless.  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart doesn't seem to do the trick
[20:48] <darkmatter_> tomsdale: that should do it
[20:52] <darkmatter_> well bluez-gnome it is!
[20:53] <darkmatter_> a shame really...
[20:54] <bfarah> hi guys
[20:55] <bfarah> got a problem playing mms any help plz ?
[20:55] <bfarah> can't play mms in firefox or vlc
[20:57] <bfarah> any help plz?
[20:57] <darkmatter_> mms?
[20:57] <bfarah> yes
[20:58] <bfarah> mms streams
[20:58] <bfarah> any ideas?
[20:59] <darkmatter_> none, sorry
[20:59] <bfarah> no worries,
[20:59] <bfarah> anyone else guys, problem playing mms streams?
[21:01] <tomsdale> darkmatter_: the browsers seem to ignore the /etc/hosts they all resolv via opendns ...
[21:02] <darkmatter_> tomsdale: you can ping the host?
[21:02] <tomsdale> yes - on the cl it works.
[21:03] <darkmatter_> check the order of the dns entries
[21:03] <tomsdale> in the /etc/hosts or in the /etc/resolv.conf
[21:04] <darkmatter_> resolv.conf
[21:05] <tomsdale> it says nameserver 192.168.1.1   - let me try to add 127.0.0.1 behind that
[21:05] <darkmatter_> tomsdale: infront
[21:05] <tomsdale> yes :-)
[21:10] <ubuntu> hi everyone
[21:12] <ubuntu> im running a live cd just checking out the support befor i commit to this and get some info
[21:13] <ubuntu> witch is the bet distro for a new user like me with no clue as im a windows user
[21:15] <jean_pierre_cz> well ubuntu, you're chatting at the right channel apparently
[21:16] <jean_pierre_cz> I would recommend kubuntu
[21:16] <jean_pierre_cz> However ubuntu is not bad at all neither
[21:18] <ubuntu> is that becouse im in ubuntu chat:) i have herd that g-nome is much beter but like i sead im new to all this
[21:19] <ahmad_> ubuntu: u can run both Gnome and KDE
[21:19] <ubuntu> with the same program if that makes any sence to you
[21:20] <ubuntu> why is there someny people in here but very little chatter at all
[21:21] <Daniel_online> I used to run gnome - but after i tried kde im hoooocked :D
[21:22] <ubuntu> so witch wuld be the best linux for me this is ubuntu but i know there are loads more
[21:22] <tomsdale> I don't think the address 127.0.0.1 works because I don't have a dns server on my machine.
[21:23] <ahmad_> ubuntu: only u can decide what is best for u. but most windows users start with kubuntu
[21:25] <drbobb> hello, how do I browse a bluetooth-enabled phone in kde4?
[21:26] <ubuntu> will it help if i tell you whot i wont to use it for
[21:28] <drbobb> actually, how do I do anything at all with bluetooth in kde4? It used to be easy and smooth in kde3, nowadays nothing works at all
[21:32] <drbobb> ok, I guess the answer is probably -- logout and log back but into gnome
[21:38] <gabriel_> hello all I'm running kubuntu/ubuntu 9.04 on an acer aspire 4730z and cannot get to my sd-card for storage. can anyone help?
[21:38] <gabriel_> must I make a new device?
[21:40] <drbobb> ok so it seems I figured out how to upload stuff from my phone to my pc, but I was given no opportunity to choose a location to save it, so I have no idea where it went
[21:42] <drbobb> uh it only worked once, I try to upload another file, but nothing happens
[21:45] <kaddi> hello everyone :)
[21:49] <Serpardum> how do I chage the width of a Konsole?  In 1440x900 mode my konsole is okay.  In 1360x768 mode it's the width of the entire window.  Lots of characters I don't need that wide and it hides everythign under it
[21:50] <drbobb> ok this bluetooth stuff in kde4 sucks really badly
[21:50] <drbobb> maybe better luck with gnome
[21:51] <laslavic> Just installed Kubuntu 9.04 and want to know how to install my printer. In the past, I didn't have to do anything at all. Went to the "Printer Configuration" in the kmenu and then went to "Add new printer" but it only has options for network printers.
[21:51] <laslavic> Is there another way that I should know about? It's just a regular USB printer.
[21:53] <Serpardum> n/m I can resize the window.  maybe kubuntu keeps window sizes for each resolution
[21:55] <uga> laslavic: you don't see your printer under "local printers"?
[21:55] <uga> laslavic: you're right in that there's no option to add local printers
[21:55] <uga> I see mine there, but possibly comes from older settings
[21:55] <uga> either that, or there's an autodetect method =)
[21:57] <commander_> help
[21:58] <uga> arf
[21:58] <commander_> how can i get synaptics package manager on here?
[21:59] <uga> commander_: apt-get install synaptic?
[22:02]  * uga wonders if commander too will reply with a no route icmp
[22:03] <uga> are users so crashy these days?
[22:05] <uga> so many users quitting irc... reminds me of http://pastebin.com/m1aee3edc
[22:06] <uga> remote closed connection, no route to host, read error, ... anyone alive?
[22:07] <uga> remote closed connection, no route to host, read error, connection timed out... more errors  to come ;)
[22:08] <lee8oi> uga: whats giving you those messages? you using ssh, ping or something?
[22:09] <uga> lee8oi: it's the errors freenode reports when users leave the channel
[22:09] <lee8oi> oh
[22:09] <uga> right now for example WB2Colorado left with: Read error: 104 (connection reset by peer)
[22:09] <uga> anyway, glad to know somebody is alive =)
[22:09] <lee8oi> something with freenode, or your client's conflict with freenode?
[22:10] <lee8oi> ya I'm alive
[22:10] <lee8oi> wait a min...I'm on freenode?
[22:10] <lee8oi> hmm. ok
[22:10] <lee8oi> I'm seeing the errors too
[22:11] <lee8oi> when someone quits
[22:11] <lee8oi> (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[22:11] <uga> yes, I was worried that everyone was quitting, and nobody typing. That's rather strange in this channel
[22:11] <lee8oi> thats odd. never seen that before
[22:12] <uga> and the last two users I tried helping out, both went mute ;)
[22:12] <lee8oi> wonder if its something messed up in the away code on the server
[22:12] <uga> keyboard support bug in jaunty? ;)
[22:12] <lee8oi> idling or something
[22:12] <uga> lee8oi: it's 300 users idling =)(
[22:13] <lee8oi> keyboard support bug? haven't had any problems with keyboards in jaunty....
[22:13] <lee8oi> whoop. gotta meet the woman for dinner......be back later
[22:13] <uga> lee8oi: errrm... it was meant to be a joke (keyboard thing)
[22:13] <uga> cya
[22:15] <Serpardum> off topic: http://www.joke-of-the-day.com/jokeoftheday/picoftheday/june2009/shave-baby.png
[22:15] <afu_> Hello
[22:15] <Serpardum> hello
[22:16] <joshjtl> hey folks, is there a big effort to make konqueror have more features so that it can compete with popular browsers?
[22:17] <juam> HOLA
[22:18] <ahmad_> after loging in. loading screen flicks 2 times. is that a bug ?
[22:18] <COPITO506> HOLA
[22:18] <COPITO506> hola alguien de canarias para charlar de ubuntu
[22:23] <oobe> !es
[22:35] <commander_> it's not a problem if i have ubuntu on here along w/kubuntu and window vista?
[22:35] <commander_> i mean 3 OS  on my laptop?
[22:38] <ign0ramus> commander_, that's an advantage, not a problem :)
[22:43] <drbobb> yep. definitely better luck playing with bluetooth in gnome
[22:43] <drbobb> (in kde4 nothing works)
[22:44] <oobe> commander_, you dont need to dual boot kubuntu and ubuntu they can coexist on same driver
[22:45] <oobe> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop in kubuntu or vice versa
[22:48] <xiko18> algun español k entienda de linx?
[22:48] <commander_> ok thanks. i just don't wanna overload my HDD
[22:53] <LuisJa> i got a problem here, my laptop is not able to automatically shut down: i press the button to shut down, i wait until the laptop is near to turn off, finally the laptop goes to blackscreen, and in a command line says: Unable to halt, no such file or director; then i have to manually move the mouse a little, and after that the laptop turns off, but if u dont move the mouse, it will stay with that command line, WTH?
[22:54] <Matisse> hi
[22:54] <Matisse> how do I get the realplayer plugin for 64bit ?
[22:54] <LuisJa> someone can help me pls?
[22:55] <Matisse> !ask | LuisJa
[22:55] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, if you do "sudo reboot", does that shut down properly?  or even "sudo shutdown -P now" ?
[22:56] <LuisJa> hate when peoples do that...
[22:57] <LuisJa> ign0ramus: with reboot, the laptop correctly shut downs
[22:57] <LuisJa> and then turns on :)
[22:57] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, and the "shutdown" command works?
[22:58] <barsx> прива, русские есть?
[22:58] <bdgraue> !ru
[22:58] <ign0ramus> !ru | barsx
[23:00] <LuisJa> ign0ramus: let me try the command and i tell u
[23:02] <fernando> paisudfh
[23:09] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, you there?
[23:09] <LuisJa> yes lol srry i was busy, let me try the command
[23:18] <eMyller> hello =]
[23:18] <eMyller> where can i get kate 3.2 color schemes?
[23:18] <eMyller> that include all web-related file config (js,html,php,ruby, etc)
[23:21] <LuisJa> ign0ramus: the command also needed to manually move a little the mouse to shutdown
[23:21] <LuisJa> ign0ramus: like in graphical mode
[23:24] <joshjtl> is there anyway to get gmail working fully in konqeror? Ive tried all the browser ids and none of them work fully
[23:25] <LuisJa> ign0ramus: r u there?
[23:25] <LuisJa> konqueror sucks dude, use mozilla :)
[23:25] <joshjtl> it really doesnt
[23:27] <Serpardum> Hey, I somehow closed that part of the... bottom bar... that shows what windows are open.  How do I readd it?
[23:30] <eMyller> anyone?
[23:31] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, obviously, something is going wrong with the 'shutdown' command, which is an ACPI call when you hit the power button
[23:31] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, still trying to figure out what that is... what are the errors it gives?
[23:32] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, right click, add panel
[23:32] <Serpardum> kay, then what do I do with the panel?  Or is that it?
[23:32] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, oh, just the window manager section of the panel?
[23:32] <Serpardum> yeah, I got the other stuff
[23:33] <Serpardum> I just somehow got rid of the part I can click on the window tabs
[23:33] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, oh, it's just a widget... lemme see what it's called
[23:33] <joshjtl> where can I tell konqueror to use webkit instead of khtml?
[23:33] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, add Task Manager
[23:34] <Serpardum> thansk it!  thanks!
[23:34] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, np :)
[23:34] <Serpardum> Hmm.. now I gotta figure out how to move the widgets around in the panel :D
[23:34] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, click the swirl at the far right, and the you can drag stuff around
[23:34] <bjb1959> everytime I reboot I loose sound on all apps except system sounds. I have to log out log into gnome, log out and then log in to kde again to get it to work. any idea why?
[23:35] <Serpardum> ahh, thanks, yeah
[23:40] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, without any extra input from you, it may be your wireless that's causing the shutdown hang
[23:41] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, try doing “sudo ifconfig wlan0 down” and then doing "sudo shutdown -P now" ... see if that makes a difference