[06:03]  * alkisg reminds cprov to have a look at the uid changing question (https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/72982) whenever he has some time - and thanks him! :)
[07:57] <alkisg> cprov, thank you very much and sorry for the trouble :)
[07:57] <cprov> alkisg: hello there, did it work ?
[07:58] <alkisg> Yeah, fine, `apt-key list` no longer shows "Test PPA" :)
[07:58] <cprov> alkisg: does it show the new UID properly encoded ?
[07:58] <alkisg> Yes I can see it correctly. Did you copy/paste it?
[07:59] <alkisg> No encoding or transliteration problems whatsoever
[08:01] <cprov> alkisg: great, I've used it's utf-8 form, it's the only encode supported by gnupg in ubuntu
[08:01] <alkisg> Thanks again
[08:04] <cprov> alkisg: np, you are welcome.
[09:13] <mpt> Which is the appropriate "project" for a bug report about Launchpad mailing lists?
[09:16] <mwhudson> mpt: probably registry
[09:16] <mwhudson> (given that that's barry's team)
[09:16] <mpt> ok, thanks
[09:23] <oldman_> hi, i've had a 'we were unable to establish your connection with the upstream authors' e-mail for some translation uploads
[09:23] <oldman_> how do I get these unblocked? (as the e-mail doesn't tell me) :)
[09:24] <henninge> oldman_: Please respond to the mail and explain your relation to the upstream authors or have upstream contact us directly.
[09:24] <oldman_> ok
[09:24] <oldman_> its a bit odd, because I my gtk-recordmydesktop ones went through fine, but the qt-recordmydesktop ones got blocked :)
[11:19] <ara> hello all :)
[11:19] <ara>  does anyone know the state of question 73212?
[11:19] <ara>  https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/73212
[11:19] <ara>  is there a way to escalate that?
[11:33] <pcabido> I'm have some problems with launchpad, anyone with some time to help me?
[11:38] <mwhudson> pcabido: maybe
[11:38] <mwhudson> pcabido: what problems are you having?
[11:39] <pcabido> I can't add a translation but I think I should be able to
[11:39] <pcabido> https://translations.launchpad.net/gtg
[11:39] <pcabido> for example I can add for dutch, but I can't add for portuguese
[11:39] <henninge> pcabido: It only shows you youre preferred languages.
[11:40] <henninge> s/youre/your/
[11:40] <pcabido> yes, but that apart, listing all the languages
[11:40] <pcabido> I can add a dutch translation but not a portuguese, why?
[11:41] <henninge> pcabido: because you do not have portugese set as a preferred language?
[11:41] <henninge> pcabido: Why would you start a translation on a language that you do not speak?
[11:41] <pcabido> I have portuguese set as my prefered language
[11:41] <henninge> oh
[11:42] <henninge> pcabido: what's your launchpad name?
[11:42] <pcabido> pcabido
[11:42] <henninge> ;)
[11:42] <dpm> pcabido, henninge: I think it's because there is no team set up for Portuguese translation there -> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/+groups/gnome-translation-project
[11:43] <henninge> dpm: I was going to check on the groups ...
[11:43] <henninge> ;-)
[11:43] <henninge> dpm: but it is open permissions
[11:44] <henninge> dpm: and there is no Dutch team either
[11:44] <dpm> henninge: there is a Dutch team
[11:44] <pcabido> yes, there's a dutch team
[11:44] <dpm> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/~gnome-l10n-nl
[11:44]  * henninge is blind 
[11:44] <henninge> Sorry
[11:44] <henninge> ;)
[11:44] <dpm> :)
[11:45] <pcabido> anyway having open permissions it should be ok to submit a translation for a group that doesn't exist or no?
[11:45] <henninge> yes, https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/gtg offers me Esperanto translations (that is in my preferred languages) although there is no team for it.
[11:46] <henninge> pcabido: so do you get an untranslated (130 untranslated) for Dutch on that page?
[11:46] <pcabido> henninge: yep
[11:46] <henninge> pcabido: that is strange ...
[11:46] <pcabido> I'm able to change the dutch but no the portuguese
[11:47] <pcabido> yes.. indeed. I wanted to check with someone here before I started to claim it was a bug :P
[11:47] <henninge> pcabido: so you are saying that you cannot enter anything here: ?
[11:47] <henninge> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/gtg/trunk/+pots/gtg/pt/+translate
[11:48] <pcabido> nop, nothing
[11:48] <henninge> pcabido: do you get a static page?
[11:48] <pcabido> yes, I get a static page with the list of results but I can't change none of them
[11:48] <henninge> pcabido: I mean, no edit fields.
[11:49] <pcabido> there are no input fields
[11:49] <henninge> pcabido: let me try this with my test account ...
[11:49] <pcabido> ok
[11:50] <pcabido> take your time
[12:05] <henninge> pcabido: please try changing the permissions to "structured" and tell me if that helps.
[12:05] <henninge> https://translations.launchpad.net/gtg/+changetranslators
[12:13] <pcabido> henninge: I'm not a admin but I'll pass that info
[12:13] <henninge> pcabido: please do that.
[12:14] <henninge> pcabido: Also, he/she should talk to the owner of the translation group when using that group for the project.
[12:16] <pcabido> ok
[12:20] <mpt> egh, who designed the "Private archives subscriptions" page?
[12:34] <Daviey> Hi, If a person has multiple PPA's, do they really share the same gpg key?
[12:34] <Daviey> :o
[12:35] <bigjools> Daviey: yes, they do
[12:35] <bigjools> mpt: feel free to design a better one
[12:35] <Daviey> bigjools: Will it stay this way, or do ou think it will change?
[12:36] <bigjools> Daviey: it will stay this way
[12:36] <Daviey> bigjools: ok thanks
[12:36] <bigjools> np
[12:36] <jpds> bigjools: morning.
[12:36] <bigjools> jpds: howdy
[13:23] <pan1nx> is there a tool that you can directly download the files from a PPA? or you always need to add the PPA to the sources.list and apt-get download ?
[13:24] <gnomefreak> pin the packages you dont want
[13:24] <pan1nx> gnomefreak, can you more detailed?
[13:25] <gnomefreak> !pinning
[13:25] <pan1nx> I want the files in a package
[13:25] <gnomefreak> oh not package itself?
[13:25] <pan1nx> apt-get source...
[13:25] <pan1nx> dsc, deb, orig.tar...
[13:25] <pan1nx> all those
[13:25] <pan1nx> I remember that was a discussion some long time...
[13:25] <pan1nx> about such tool
[13:25] <gnomefreak> yeah that i would say either a script or get them from PPA but there is no way around that AFAIK
[13:25] <pan1nx> someone did something in python
[13:26] <pan1nx> ok
[13:26] <pan1nx> thanks
[13:26] <gnomefreak> np
[13:26] <pan1nx> I was hoping to see something in the ubuntu-dev-tools
[13:36] <jpds> pan1nx: You mean like dgetlp?
[13:41] <aquarius> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/323 says "If the Launchpad user id you want is already in use...they may just give it to you." How does another user give me their launchpad ID?
[13:42] <mpt> noodles775, bigjools: What is the effect if someone subscribes you to a private PPA but you haven't retrieved the token yet? In that state, can you do anything with the PPA that you couldn't do before?
[13:42] <soren> aquarius: The change their name and you change yours to their old one?
[13:42] <aquarius> soren: cool; if that's the way to do it, I'll get on that
[13:42] <soren> aquarius: I think that's how I did it.
[13:43] <aquarius> and they can change their ID to whatever they want, and that frees up their old ID?
[13:47] <soren> aquarius: I'm hesitant to answer, really, because I'd hate to mess things up for you. I believe that's what I did, when I was in the same situation (taking over "soren" from someone else on Launchpad).
[13:47] <aquarius> soren: *nod*
[13:47] <pan1nx> jpds COOL! that's exactly what I wanted
[13:48] <aquarius> soren: I shall wait for a more firm answer from LP people ;-)
[13:48] <soren> :)
[13:50]  * aquarius waves at abentley
[13:53] <abentley> aquarius: That would certainly work.
[13:53] <aquarius> abentley: is that the correct way to do it?
[13:58] <mpt> asac, <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Specs/KarmicAptUrlPpaPolicy> says "Continue white-list for apt-url". Does that mean 9.04 already includes a repository whitelist?
[13:58] <mpt> (I'm asking here because it's relevant to bug 376603)
[14:01] <asac> mpt: technically yes. only whitelisted third party repo is partner though (meaning the documented process still needs real world testing)
[14:01] <asac> mpt: but, outcome of the discussion was that there will be no such button on launchpad PPAs for now
[14:01] <mpt> asac, I suggest testing that process soon-ish on the Ubuntu One PPA :-)
[14:02] <asac> mpt: yes. thats the idea
[14:02] <mpt> asac, is anyone working on that now?
[14:02] <asac> mpt: but they are aware ... now we need an application :) (or somebody to approach us at least)
[14:03] <mpt> asac, are instructions published anywhere on how to apply for inclusion?
[14:03] <asac> yes ... second
[14:04] <asac> mpt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThirdPartyRepositoryApplicationProcess + https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThirdPartyWhitelistApplicationTemplate
[14:06] <mpt> excellent, thanks asac
[14:07] <asac> mpt: if you have comments let us know
[14:08] <abentley> aquarius: I don't know of a correct way.  I've only seen cases where the desired userid was inactive.
[14:09] <aquarius> abentley: no worries; I've mailed the dude who currently has "sil" to tell him that the way he changes is to change his name and then tell me. We'll ignore the race condition in this approach for now :-)
[14:23] <jpds> pan1nx: Good to hear, if you want something in ubuntu-dev-tools, just file a bug against it.
[14:40] <pcabido> henninge: structured doesn't solve the problem
[14:41] <henninge> pcabido: we tried to reproduce the problem locally and couldn't. Not good.
[14:41] <pcabido> henninge: ?
[14:42] <bigjools> mpt: there is no difference.  The person who has the subscription needs to find out what their token is regardless of our implementation details of when its generated.
[14:42] <henninge> pcabido: I am just saying that my first assumption as to what the problem is does not seem to be true.
[14:42] <henninge> pcabido: and not being able to reproduce it locally does not help ... ;(
[14:43] <pcabido> oh ok, do you have any suggestion of what to do/try next?
[14:43] <mpt> bigjools, thanks, I commented in bug 376597 about that
[14:43] <henninge> pcabido: no, not yet. Sorry.
[14:44] <bigjools> mpt: ok thanks
[14:44] <bigjools> mpt: actually I will expand on what I just said, in the bug
[14:44] <mpt> ok :-)
[14:51] <bigjools> mpt: thanks for the feedback BTW, you're among the few :)
[14:52] <mpt> you're welcome
[14:52] <mpt> I still love Launchpad ;-)
[14:52] <bigjools> mpt: you *are* Launchpad's bug tracker
[14:52] <bigjools> I'm sure it's you with the nick ubottu
[14:52] <mpt> And sorry about the "who designed that" earlier, that wasn't helpful
[14:53] <bigjools> ah no worries
[15:13] <sinzui> Herb: can you apply a subtle blend of psychology and extreme violence  to the launchpad list on lists.ubuntu.com? I am not getting email, I believe firefox changed my username/emailaddress.. I can send to the list though
[15:16] <herb> sinzui: um. l.u.c has launchpad-users and launchpad-announce.  I don't (knowingly) have admin access to either.
[15:16] <sinzui> herb: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad/ says otherwise
[15:17] <herb> sinzui: fine.  you would have to use logic and stuff.
[15:18] <sinzui> herb: If I did that, all my canonical list would not be broken
[15:19] <herb> sinzui: which email address should be subscribed?
[15:19] <sinzui> herb: I think curtis.hovey@canonical.com, since I can send
[15:20] <sinzui> herb: I have requested my password 3 times
[15:20] <herb> oh hey. there's a pending subscription request from you.
[15:20] <sinzui> herb: please approve it, pretty please
[15:20] <herb> sinzui: it's approved.
[15:21] <herb> sinzui: need anything else?
[15:22] <sinzui> as a matter of fact, can you help with this https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/73579
[15:28] <kirkland> hi guys ...  question for you ...  screen-profiles was renamed in launchpad to byobu ...  would it be possible to symlink a directory at http://ppa.launchpad.net/screen-profiles to the directory that provides http://ppa.launchpad.net/byobu ?
[15:30] <bigjools> kirkland: you renamed the user?
[15:30] <cprov> kirkland: possibly what's the problem in keep both PPAs active ?
[15:31] <cprov> bigjools: ftr, users with PPAs can't be renamed since 2.2.5
[15:31] <bigjools> cprov: that's what I thought :)
[15:31] <bigjools> which is why I am checking what's happened
[15:31] <kirkland> bigjools: https://edge.launchpad.net/~screen-profiles -> 404
[15:31] <kirkland> bigjools: which is okay by me ...  everything is done as byobu now
[15:32] <kirkland> bigjools: but as of now, every screen-profiles ppa user has to individually edit their sources.list to upgrade from the last screen-profiles package to byobu
[15:32] <bigjools> kirkland: oh I see, you want to link from the old name that never had a PPA?
[15:32] <bigjools> ah no then
[15:33] <kirkland> bigjools: hmm, it *definitely* had a ppa
[15:33] <bigjools> kirkland: did you rename the user screen-profiles -> byobu before we released LP 2.2.5?
[15:34] <soren> http://ppa.launchpad.net/screen-profiles/ ?
[15:34] <soren> Oh, never mind me.
[15:39] <kirkland> bigjools: i don't know
[15:39] <kirkland> bigjools: i can find the date, if you need
[15:40] <kirkland> bigjools: it was renamed on approximately May 4th
[15:40] <bigjools> kirkland: if you did, it was before 2.2.5 because we prevented person renaming if they have a PPA in that release.  The problem is that you end up with two repos, neither of which are in sync with what LP thinks is in there.
[15:41] <kirkland> bigjools: right
[15:41] <kirkland> bigjools: i think that's the situation
[15:41] <bigjools> argh
[15:41] <kirkland> bigjools: i think this is solvable with a symlink from the screen-profiles dir to the byobu dir, no?
[15:41] <bigjools> kirkland: not that easy :(
[15:41] <kirkland> bigjools: oh, okay
[15:41] <kirkland> bigjools: well, if this is really off the wall, ignore me :-)
[15:41] <kirkland> bigjools: i can live without it
[15:42] <bigjools> kirkland: actually if you know that everything in the old PPA is superseded by packages in the new one, we can probably just delete the old one
[15:42] <bigjools> and make your symlink for convenience
[15:44] <kirkland> bigjools: yes, that's absolutely true
[15:44] <kirkland> bigjools: the new ppa publishes superceded versions of everything the old one published
[15:45] <bigjools> kirkland: you've got screen-profiles in the old one but not in the new one
[15:45] <kirkland> bigjools: ?  I guess i don't understand
[15:45] <kirkland> bigjools: i see screen-profiles here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~byobu/+archive/ppa
[15:46] <bigjools> kirkland: look in http://ppa.launchpad.net/screen-profiles/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/s/screen-profiles/
[15:46] <bigjools> compare with http://ppa.launchpad.net/byobu/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/s/
[15:47] <kirkland> bigjools: ah, okay
[15:47] <kirkland> bigjools: so i should send new builds of screen proflies to the byobu ppa
[15:47] <kirkland> bigjools: wait for those to build, and come back to you?
[15:47] <bigjools> kirkland: sure thing
[15:48] <kirkland> bigjools: thanks!
[15:48]  * bigjools is pleased to help
[15:51] <bigjools> kirkland: BTW, is this the "server bling" stuff I missed at AH?
[15:59] <kirkland> bigjools: yessir :-)
[15:59] <bigjools> kirkland: me want!
[15:59] <kirkland> bigjools: heh :-)  well it's right there
[15:59] <kirkland> bigjools: if you're on karmic already, just type 'byobu'
[15:59] <kirkland> bigjools: if you're on jaunty, select-screen-profile, and then 'screen'
[15:59] <bigjools> kirkland: my server is hardy :)
[16:00] <kirkland> bigjools: then you'll add this ppa
[16:00] <kirkland> bigjools: byobu ppa, then apt-get install byobu, then run byobu
[16:01] <cprov> kirkland: screen-profile pool/ has nothing new, it can be simply replaced by a link to byobu/ one.
[16:05] <sinzui> danilos: have you seen the email about the Philippines translation team to feedback@? What do we do about negligent teams?
[16:10] <danilos> sinzui: that's something people in charge of the group should take care of
[16:10] <danilos> sinzui: if it's ubuntu team, ubuntu translation coordinator (owner of the translation group) should handle it
[16:10] <sinzui> I will convey that information
[16:10] <danilos> sinzui: dpm is a good guy to point them at :)
[16:12] <dpm> sinzui: can you forward the e-mail to ubuntu-translation-coordinator(at)lists.launchpad.net? As Danilo says, you can point them out to me as well
[16:13] <sinzui> dpm thank you
[16:13] <dpm> np
[16:15] <kirkland> cprov: cool, thanks.
[16:15] <kirkland> bigjools: looks like the builds are done, published to ~byobu
[16:16] <bigjools> cprov, can you do the symlink for kirkland please?
[16:18] <cprov> bigjools: you are doing a nice job as irc-proxy :)
[16:18] <bigjools> cprov: I don't have many uses, so any excuse to feel helpful is good :)
[16:19]  * kirkland hugs bigjools and cprov 
[16:20] <cprov> kirkland: http://ppa.launchpad.net/screen-profiles/ is a symlink to the byobu PPA
[16:21] <cprov> kirkland: bear in mind that any pinning rule has to refer to the byobu Origin, the ones for "LP-PPA-screen-profiles" will fail.
[16:32] <kirkland> cprov: cool, thanks
[18:05] <popey> hullo! How can i rename my launchpad account? I cant see an option to do it
[18:07] <salgado> popey, should be at /people/+me/+edit
[18:07] <sinzui> popey: Choose change details on your profile page. your launchpad-id is the name
[18:07] <sinzui> We really must stop using name when we mean launchpad-id in the UI
[18:10] <popey> you sure?
[18:11] <popey> there is the display name field which is "Alan Pope" then the next field is Name: "alanpope" which is not modifiable
[18:11] <sinzui> popey: do you have a ppa?
[18:11] <popey> i do
[18:12] <sinzui> that is why changing your name will break the ppa
[18:12] <popey> can i throw the ppa, change name and then recreate it?
[18:13] <popey> s/throw/delete/
[18:13] <sinzui> popey: you can ask a question at https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad and I will assign it to an admin who can force the rename
[18:13] <popey> ace
[18:13] <popey> thank you
[18:14] <popey> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/73654 sinzui
[18:15] <sinzui> popey: I assigned it to an admin. I'll check back in a few hours to see that someone is working on it
[18:16] <popey> many thanks
[19:00] <vadi2> What needs to be done in order to have LP link commit names to the username?
[19:01] <LarstiQ> vadi2: `bzr whoami` should match one of your registered email addresses
[19:01] <vadi2> aha, thank you
[19:35] <rickspencer31> ug
[19:35] <rickspencer31> creating a graphical logon with python-launchpadib is kicking my ass
[19:36] <rickspencer31> it keeps seg faulting
[19:36] <LarstiQ> segfault?
[19:36] <LarstiQ> not a backtrace?
[19:38] <rickspencer31> LarstiQ: nope, it just seg faults
[19:38] <LarstiQ> rickspencer31: nice
[19:39] <rickspencer31> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-launchpadlib/+bug/384643
[19:39] <rickspencer31> I assume it has something to do with threading, but can't figure out what
[19:40] <rickspencer31> my brilliant scheme was to create a re-usable gtk logon dialog for launchpad
[19:41] <LarstiQ> without looking closer at the actual code, one source of segfaults I'm familiar with is instantiating a ui widget before the application runs
[19:41] <LarstiQ> ie, missing QApplication([]) before QMainWindow()
[19:41] <LarstiQ> same for wx, and opengl to an extent
[19:41]  * LarstiQ is not too familiar with gtk programming
[19:45] <thekorn> rickspencer31, the login dialog works for me, no segfault
[19:45] <rickspencer31> ?
[19:46] <rickspencer31> thekorn: that's very weird
[19:46] <rickspencer31> have you tried it multiple times?
[19:46] <rickspencer31> delete ~/.local/pm-dashboard and try
[19:46] <rickspencer31> again
[19:46] <rickspencer31> it *usually* seg faults for me
[19:48] <rickspencer31> thekorn: thanks a lot for testing it for me
[19:48] <thekorn> rickspencer31, tested it 4 times now, it always worked,
[19:48] <rickspencer31> that is sooo weird
[19:48]  * rickspencer31 pounds head on desk
[19:48] <thekorn> the UI is freezing, but no segfault
[19:48] <rickspencer31> ?
[19:49] <rickspencer31> is it just taking a while for the buttons to show up?
[19:49] <thekorn> after clicking on the "lp says I'm done" button
[19:49] <rickspencer31> the dialog does not disapear?
[19:49] <thekorn> yes, the UI is unresponsive for a while
[19:50] <rickspencer31> the dialog should disapear, and then you should be able to use the menus
[19:50] <rickspencer31> *sigh*
[19:50] <thekorn> rickspencer31, ok, now it always segfaults
[19:51] <rickspencer31> hmm
[19:51] <rickspencer31> here's the thing, I didn't know that I could cause seg faults with python'
[19:51] <rickspencer31> I mean, I know I suck at programming, but I didn't realize I was this seriously bad at it :(
[19:56] <LarstiQ> rickspencer31: don't be too hard on yourself
[19:56] <LarstiQ> rickspencer31: a segfault happens in C
[19:57] <thekorn> rickspencer31, sorry, can't look at the code in depth right now, but still confirmed: under some circumstances there are segfaults
[19:57] <LarstiQ> rickspencer31: ideally it wouldn't happen, but you're exposing a condition in a library that results in a segfault
[19:57] <LarstiQ> rickspencer31: it does happen programming python, but not a lot
[19:57] <rickspencer31> LarstiQ: right, it should rather throw an exception, right?
[19:59] <rickspencer31> thanks thekorn
[20:00] <LarstiQ> rickspencer31: yeah, but it goes wrong somewhere in C land
[20:05] <rickspencer31> LarstiQ: does that mean it's a bug in launchpadlib, or that I am using it wrong, or both?
[20:14] <LarstiQ> rickspencer31: again, without looking at it, my guess is your use of gtk is more likely
[20:15] <rickspencer31> LarstiQ: okay, thanks
[21:17] <ethana2> I'm being trolled
[21:17] <ethana2> https://answers.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+question/73280
[21:17] <ethana2> This account, https://answers.launchpad.net/~ethan-anderson , should be deleted
[21:18] <ethana2> and its email address banned from future use with launchpad
[21:18] <ethana2> ..and nicks should not be able to include both latin and cyrrilic characters
[21:18] <ethana2> Cyrillic*
[21:19] <czajkowski> evening
[21:19] <ethana2> czajkowski: good evening
[21:19] <ethana2> oh my..
[21:20] <ethana2> This troll is really, really, really bad
[21:20] <ethana2> I made a filter for my email so he couldn't harass me
[21:20] <ethana2> so he made a launchpad account to look like mine
[21:20] <ethana2> and has been wreaking havok on launchpad and getting me literally hundreds of emails from it
[21:21] <ethana2> he is wasting more of Canonical's resources than 20 users operating normally
[21:23] <ethana2> czajkowski: are you a launchpad administrator?
[21:26] <czajkowski> ethana2: nope
[21:26] <ethana2> k
[21:31] <ethana2> ok, his nick changed to [deleted]
[21:32] <ethana2> but is there anything stopping him from coming back 30 minutes from now?
[21:32] <ethana2> it's not /actually/ deleted, he probably just changed it to that
[21:32] <ethana2> probably did that last time too
[21:34] <ethana2> ok, I see, it is deactivated
[21:34] <ethana2> thank you much, whoever took care of that
[21:35] <ethana2> He'll probably come back and do the same thing with a different email address, so I'll see you guys then I guess
[21:35] <ethana2> in the mean time, have a good day
[21:46] <ethana2> the troll is back.
[21:46] <ethana2> https://answers.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+question/73280
[21:47] <ethana2> https://answers.launchpad.net/~ethan-anderson
[21:47] <ethana2> I don't know why he's able to do this, but I'd like it ended permanently
[21:49] <ethana2> That account has been disabled twice already
[21:49] <ethana2> this will be the third time
[21:50] <beuno> kiko, any ideas  ^
[21:50] <ethana2> If launchpad dissallowed nicks from having both latin and cyrrilic characters at once, that would improve this greatly
[21:51] <maxb> Why, ooi?
[21:51] <kiko> beuno, on what?
[21:52] <LarstiQ> ethana2: could you elaborate on what exactly the problem is with mixing scripts?
[21:52] <ethana2> LarstiQ: ..?
[21:52] <ethana2> oh.
[21:52] <ethana2> lookalike nicks
[21:52] <cody-somerville> lol
[21:52] <cody-somerville> wow
[21:53] <beuno> kiko, a troll that keeps coming bach?
[21:53] <cody-somerville> That is too funny
[21:53] <ethana2> cody-somerville: I am not amused
[21:53] <cody-somerville> I know you must not be
[21:53] <ethana2> cody-somerville: k
[21:53] <ethana2> heh
[21:53] <cody-somerville> But thats pretty clever
[21:53] <ethana2> I didn't even know he was mixing scripts, a friend discovered that
[21:53] <cody-somerville> not to mention a huge security issue
[21:53] <ethana2> thank you
[21:54] <ethana2> I think this guy might be the one who goes by 'ozzymandias' on irc
[21:54] <ethana2> he is very, very unwelcome in at least one channel that I know of
[21:54]  * LarstiQ still feels he is missing the point
[21:54] <ethana2> LarstiQ: I don't know what the point is either
[21:54] <ethana2> I'm told I'm fun to mess with
[21:55] <ethana2> some people are just jerks
[21:55] <cody-somerville> LarstiQ, They're different people!
[21:55] <LarstiQ> cody-somerville: yes, but isn't that obvious?
[21:55] <cody-somerville> No
[21:56] <cody-somerville> How is it obvious?
[21:56] <LarstiQ> due to the different launchpad names
[21:56] <ethana2> cody-somerville: his nick includes cyrillic characterss
[21:56] <maxb> The troll's user id appears to currently be ~yoyoyo with is fairly different from ~ethana2, even if they do happen to have the same *display* name
[21:57] <ethana2> oh crap, it IS ozzymandias.
[21:57] <maxb> *which is
[21:57] <LarstiQ> the display names look similar, but I wouldn't expect those to be unique?
[21:57] <cody-somerville> You have to mouse over to see that
[21:57] <ethana2> he is a freak.
[21:57] <soren> Well apart from the nick squatting business his response looks helpful enough (until he goes nuts on the reload button).
[21:57] <cody-somerville> And the display names look exactly the same to me
[21:57] <ethana2> soren: I have been using xmodmap for quite some time
[21:57] <ethana2> cody-somerville: and that is one problem that should be fixed..
[21:57] <ethana2> but he knows that, he's been harassing us on #colemak for over a month
[21:57] <Iggy_Koopa> they don't look the same if you don't use Bitstream Vera
[21:57] <ethana2> he hacked into one guy's box with an --
[21:58] <Iggy_Koopa> another fault with that font
[21:58] <ethana2> Iggy_Koopa!
[21:58] <Iggy_Koopa> and yeah
[21:58] <ethana2> you're here!
[21:58] <Iggy_Koopa> Of course I am
[21:58] <ethana2> I did not know you were here :)
[21:58] <jrick> as am I
[21:58] <ethana2> this is the guy that discovered the --
[21:58] <ethana2> sweet.
[21:58] <jrick> we just wanted to help you ethana2
[21:58] <Iggy_Koopa> We're all here to help you, friend
[21:58] <ethana2> I feel better already :)
[21:58] <maxb> The cyrillic/latin issue is presumably irrelevant, since Launchpad cannot reasonably require display names to be unique, since human names aren't unique!
[21:59] <ethana2> maxb: but email addresses must be unique, no?
[21:59] <LarstiQ> ethana2: yes
[21:59] <maxb> oh, is *that* where the cyrillic is?
[21:59] <ethana2> maxb: the cyrillic is in his nick
[21:59] <ethana2> I'm sorta confused here--
[21:59] <maxb> ethana2: What is a "nick" in this context?
[21:59] <ethana2> why does launchpad have separate sign ins and nicks?
[21:59] <ethana2> maxb: the account he was using was ~ethan-anderson or something
[22:00] <ethana2> but he showed up in what appeared like 'ethana2'
[22:00] <ethana2> which is my nick /and/ account
[22:00] <ethana2> and has been for probably like two years
[22:00] <maxb> My user is "maxb" but my display name is "Max Bowsher"
[22:00] <ethana2> ok, display name
[22:01] <ethana2> display names should be in one language at a time.
[22:01] <LarstiQ> ethana2: that wouldn't help you
[22:01] <maxb> No reason to require that
[22:01] <ethana2> unless cyrillic doesn't have a full character set on its own
[22:01] <ethana2> LarstiQ: I don't see why it wouldn't at least reduce confusion
[22:01] <LarstiQ> ethana2: unless, at which I'd be very surprised, launchpad retricted there to be unique display names
[22:02] <ethana2> ohhhhh
[22:02] <ethana2> well shouldn't they be unique?
[22:02] <Iggy_Koopa> also, like I pointed out
[22:02] <Iggy_Koopa> it's not the same in all fonts
[22:02] <ethana2> is there a really good reason to have multiple identical display names on launchpad?
[22:02] <LarstiQ> ethana2: I don't tink so.
[22:02] <ethana2> *sigh*
[22:02] <LarstiQ> ethana2: sure
[22:02] <ethana2> LarstiQ: use case?
[22:02] <LarstiQ> ethana2: my display name is Wouter van Heyst. I'm not the only one of those.
[22:03] <ethana2> sure, but does it kill you to add an integer on the end?
[22:03] <LarstiQ> yes
[22:03] <ethana2> I'm not ethana
[22:03] <ethana2> because ethana was taken on gmail
[22:03] <ethana2> I am ethana2, someone else can increment it if they have to
[22:03] <cody-somerville> What does this have to do with cyrillic again?
[22:03] <cody-somerville> Anyone can change their display name to ethana2
[22:03] <ethana2> cody-somerville: this seems to be a different problem
[22:03] <ethana2> cody-somerville: yeah
[22:04] <ethana2> cody-somerville: I don't think that's good
[22:04] <LarstiQ> ethana2: I acknowledge your situation sucks
[22:04] <LarstiQ> ethana2: but I don't agree your proposed fix is a good idea
[22:05] <maxb> Clearly there's an issue here - perhaps Launchpad should display me as "Max Bowsher (maxb)" everywhere, for example.
[22:05] <ethana2> LarstiQ: what do you think a good fix would be?
[22:05] <LarstiQ> but then I'm a user, the lp people may disagree
[22:05] <ethana2> maxb: I like that
[22:05] <ethana2> Ethan Anderson (ethana2)
[22:05] <jrick> anyone remember that one really fake bug last week or so? that was done by this guy
[22:05] <LarstiQ> ethana2: i wouldn't be opposed to rendering the username as maxb said, but for anything that I'd want to know it, I'd check it explicitly
[22:06] <jrick> so it is important that this issue be fixed
[22:06] <LarstiQ> and not rely on just the display name, as it is only that
[22:06] <ethana2> this guy made Bug Number One a duplicate of something
[22:06] <jrick> yeah
[22:06] <ethana2> Is there anyway we can just keep this one guy off LP?
[22:06] <jrick> it was about magnets or something iirc
[22:06] <jrick> wiping the hard disks
[22:06] <LarstiQ> no clue about that
[22:06] <ethana2> magnets and hard drives, yeah
[22:07] <ethana2> well, I have to start getting ready for work
[22:07]  * LarstiQ needs to go to bed
[22:08] <LarstiQ> ethana2: have a good day
[22:08] <ethana2> I'll try, thank you
[22:08] <ethana2> good night
[22:08] <LarstiQ> and I hope someone does something about him
[22:08] <ethana2> thanks
[23:10] <soren> Has anyone gotten listadmin to work with Launchpads mailing lists?
[23:10] <czajkowski> soren: hello there
[23:11] <soren> czajkowski: Hi :)