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hggdhwelcome, but I did not do anything...00:10
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dholbachgood morning06:26
micahgmorning06:37
micahghow can I tell someone without apport enabled to upload a .crash file either as a new bug or attacted to a current bug with LP processing?06:38
micahgneverming06:40
micahgnevermind06:40
micahgI found the answer06:40
micahgapport-cli06:40
YoBoYmicahg: ubuntu-bug is more simple to remember06:45
micahgYoBoY: does ubuntu-bug process already existing crash reports?06:46
YoBoYno06:46
micahgactually, I just found it does :)06:47
YoBoYapport-collect for that06:47
micahgI don't know how I missed that06:47
micahgubuntu-bug /var/crash/_my_program.crash06:47
YoBoYho it does ? :)06:47
YoBoYha ok i haven't correctly understood the question ^^06:48
YoBoYubuntu-bug is only a cli frontend for apport (gtk, qt or cli)06:49
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bddebianBoo15:09
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YoBoYtest17:07
micahgYoBoY: test successful?17:11
YoBoYyes ^^ sorry discovering the /amsg comand on irc :p17:11
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bcurtiswx_hey all, i have a question about bug "spawns".. if one bug report has a lot of people effected, and people start making other bug reports because they feel their hardware and symptoms are different enough.  Should I report them at dupes? or treat them as totally different bugs?19:45
bcurtiswx_example: bug #355155 and its "spawn" bug #38488419:46
ubot4Launchpad bug 355155 in linux "Clocksource tsc unstable leads to lockups in Ubuntu Jaunty" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35515519:46
ubot4Launchpad bug 384884 in ubuntu "Desktop temporarily freezes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38488419:46
randomactionbcurtiswx_: in ideal world, it should be possible to tell whether it is the same problem e.g. by matching symptoms and test cases19:50
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bcurtiswx_randomaction: it just seems most of them are different chipsets, and different actions to come to the same conclusion.. the system freezes... some are saying they get unstuck (which have reported them as different bugs), and others have to hard boot.19:53
bdmurrayIts best to treat them as separate bugs as they could be hardware dependent19:58
bdmurrayAdditionally it is easier to make a bug a duplicate of another than it is to separate bug reports19:58
bcurtiswx_so even though its diff hardware configs, mark as dup?20:04
randomactionproblems like this are hard to debug, so it's possible that people commenting there suffer from different bugs20:05
bdmurrayNo, keep them separate and encourage filing different bugs until absolutely certain they are duplicates.20:06
randomactionI mean, one of the guys solved his problem by adding boot parameters, and it didn't help others20:06
bcurtiswx_hmm, ok20:06
bcurtiswx_i'll have to turn the big bug into a day project, lol20:07
BUGabundoboas noites21:17
BUGabundobdmurray: hi. aren't @ubuntu.com address whitelist to MLs ?22:20
bdmurrayBUGabundo: I don't really know22:20
BUGabundook. sorry for the noise then22:21
askand1are you there kklimonda?22:26
yoasifkklimonda: is an awesome guy :)22:26
kklimondaaskand1: please, don't tell me 1.70/1.71 crashed ;)22:26
askand1kklimonda: haha..well kind of.. I reinstalled ubuntu and had no crashes since but when upgrading to 1.71 I can't even start it22:27
kklimonda:D22:27
askand1transmission: session.c:767: tr_sessionInitImpl: Försäkran "found" falsk.22:27
kklimondacan you run it with LC_ALL=C ?22:28
askand1I have no idea what that means22:28
kklimondai don't even know what language it is :)22:28
askand1nope I cant22:28
kklimondamaybe it is http://trac.transmissionbt.com/ticket/2122  ?22:29
askand1kklimonda: ah ok.. looks like it can't work with the config directory from the old version, something to think about when upgrading all users versions in Karmic :D22:29
kklimondai think it is a bug 381050 and it only should be a problem when you upgrade and downgrade transmission..22:30
ubot4Launchpad bug 381050 in transmission "Crashes at session.c:691 - tr_sessionInitImpl: Controletest 'found' fails." [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38105022:30
virtualdit's a bad swedish translation22:30
askand1aha ok22:32
askand1removing settings.json makes it work again22:32
kklimondaaskand1: but the question remains - have you downgraded transmission at some time? if not and you only upgraded 1.51 -> 1.60 -> 1.70 it shouldn't happen..22:33
kklimondaor even 1.51 -> 1.71..22:33
askand1I have not, I upgraded from 1.51 to 1.7122:33
kklimondaso you installed 1.51, used for a while and then upgraded to 1.71? :/22:34
askand1kklimonda: if 1.51 is the version in Jaunty by default yep22:34
virtualdtransmission: session.c:767: tr_sessionInitImpl: Assertion `found' failed.22:36
kklimondaaskand1: thanks for info. I'll ask devs what to do about it..22:36
virtualdthat only turns up a russian forum post asking for help22:36
askand1http://pastebin.com/m6041b7c022:37
askand1there are the 2 settingsfiles22:37
askand1above the old one22:37
askand1and under it the freshly created by 1.7122:37
kklimondayeah, it looks like a spin off of bug 212222:37
ubot4Launchpad bug 2122 in soyuz "+sources should include a link to batched list of all source packages" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/212222:37
kklimondaech, bug from transmission trac ;)22:37
kklimondawell, we'll have to fix it either in jaunty or in karmic.. sigh..22:39
askand1kklimonda: wow there is a huge difference in downloading speed with 0.51 compared to 0.7122:41
yoasifaskand1: better on newer?22:41
kklimondaaskand1: what locale do you use?22:42
askand1yoasif: lots better22:42
askand1askand1: hrm I'm not sure what you mean..swedish?22:43
yoasifaskand1: sweet, i'm running it, was thinking about trying rtorrent22:43
kklimondaya, swedish22:43
kklimondaaskand1: thanks for report - I have created bug 38496222:47
ubot4Launchpad bug 384962 in transmission "Malformed "ratio-limit" in settings.json prevents transmission 1.71 from starting after upgrade from 1.51-0ubuntu3 " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38496222:47
askand1kklimonda: nice22:48
askand1shall I confirm or is there no point in that?22:48
kklimondaaskand1: sure, go ahead22:49
kklimondahggdh: question if you are here22:49
kklimondaor maybe somebody else fro bug control? :)22:49
hggdhkklimonda, pong22:55
kklimondahggdh: bug 384962 - what importance should it have? it will break transmission gui for users of all locales that use comma as decimal point.22:56
ubot4Launchpad bug 384962 in transmission "Malformed "ratio-limit" in settings.json prevents transmission 1.71 from starting after upgrade from 1.51-0ubuntu3 " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38496222:56
kklimondahggdh: after upgrade to karmic22:56
kklimondaand probably from hardy to next lts..22:57
BUGabundohey hggdh. tudo bom?22:57
kklimondahggdh: also please set it as triaged22:57
kklimondahggdh: I'd set it to High myself..22:59
hggdhI agree on high22:59
hggdhei BUGabundo e la nave va...23:00
hggdhkklimonda, too late, done (both triaged, and high) ;-)23:01
hggdhkklimonda, are you working on fixing it?23:01
kklimondayes23:01
hggdhOK. Just asking ;-) you assigned it to yourself23:01
yoasifhggdh: sounds like a nasty bug23:02
hggdhyes, it does. One more on localisation...23:03
hggdhbut brave kklimonda is on it23:03
kklimonda:P23:04

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