[00:17] <javatexan> any package warriors hanging around today?  I could use some help.
[00:18] <javatexan> I've got this script that I am trying to finish up: it basically updates x264, ffmpeg, mplayer and makes .debs for them against latest SVN repos.  Then for smplayer it uses the SVN create_deb.sh that the author wrote.  And of course installs them.  I have figured out all the major hurdles save one.
[00:19] <javatexan> For the debs created by smplayer, I can find out what it depends upon; but I guess I am too much of a .deb noob to know if there is a way to add the dependencies to the existing deb or do I have to make another .deb from scratch...not sure how to do that when the deb already exists...anyone have any experience with that sort of thing?
[00:20] <javatexan> its not very general or bulletproof yet, but it might be useful once it all works.  Theoretically, it should work for any SVN, git or other repos project that you need to make and get a deb for.  :)
[01:53] <neurophyre> Can anyone help with video problems in mythbuntu 9.04 install?
[01:53] <neurophyre> Without safe graphics mode, my screen is garbled, with safe graphics mode, the top and bottom are cut off making install impossible.
[01:57] <MythbuntuGuest74> I am having issues with importing dvd's. I have all the codecs installed and it goes through the process of importing them and when its finished I don't know where/how to access them, it is like they disapear. Could someone please help? Thanks!
[02:22] <MythbuntuGuest74> when I import dvd's their runtime is 0 minutes acording to MythTv
[02:34] <MythbuntuGuest74> hmm problem seemed to solve itself. Thanks anyway!
[02:54] <DGMurdockIII> anyone help me get sound working
[02:54] <DGMurdockIII> im using the closed source ati driver
[04:11] <TazgodX> if i upgrade my hardware will i have to reinstall mythbuntu? im thking of upgrading CPU and ram just don't want to reinstall the OS. i finally got it working like i want
[04:15] <hads> Nope should be fine.
[04:15] <TazgodX> and any suggestions on what a good video card for HD playback?
[04:15] <hads> Linux doesn't tend to care if you change the hardware from underneath it.
[04:15] <TazgodX> my 5200 doesn't seem like it can handle it, but that might be the CPU
[04:16] <hads> Nvidia is the usual suggestion
[04:16] <TazgodX> thanks hads, i know when i did it with my windows box i had to reinstall
[04:19] <TazgodX> hads, know of a good card from nvidia for HD? i have a NVidia 5200, just not sure if its enough for HD playback
[04:20] <hads> Something newer :)
[04:20] <TazgodX> haha
[04:21] <hads> I haven't bought a card since the 7600 but I think the 9400 is a decent cost/performance currently.
[04:22] <TazgodX> guess ill look though the boards for good cards
[04:23] <TazgodX> 9400 work good in linus?
[04:24] <TazgodX> linux
[04:24] <hads> nvidia is nvidia is nvidia
[04:24] <TazgodX> hmm, maybe i can use my 6800 Ultra i have laying around
[04:26] <TazgodX> thanks hads for the info
[04:26] <hads> sure
[04:31] <TazgodX> ok here is a weird question, is there a way to get a readout of CPU and RAM usage on my monitor at all times from mythbuntu so i can judge if its my CPU or RAM causeimg my stuttering playback?
[04:39] <javatexan> howdy all
[08:12] <Technophil> TazgodX:  Get NVIDIA  >= 8400 and try "top"   Also HD often not fully stable yet so you might want to wait a month or two.
[08:46] <hot_wheelz> hi guys
[08:47] <hot_wheelz> how can one find out how much more is left in driver development before it's done..I am following the progress of this http://jusst.de/hg/saa716x/
[08:47] <hot_wheelz> I have also tried contacting Manu A to ask but no answer :-)
[08:48] <hot_wheelz>  I want to know what is left to be done so i can help it along...surly there should be a todo list bug tracker
[15:34] <javatexan> hey guys
[15:34] <sawireless>  please can some-one please help me with a manual in how to install mythtv server and how to connect clients to it ?????
[15:36] <javatexan> sawireless: you should have got most of that for free in the mythbuntu install
[15:37] <oobe> sawireless, what you are trying to ask is how to setup a remote frontend to your backend the backend is the server and remote frontend is the client
[15:38] <oobe> there is plenty of documentation out there but you will have to learn enough to articulate your questions in a meaningful way
[15:38] <javatexan> sawireless: did you tell the server at install that you were going to have clients connect?  It tells mysql if its okay to take connections from the outside.
[15:39] <javatexan> sawireless: thats the biggest problem usually, that or you may have a firewall preventing the connection
[15:39] <javatexan> ah man, he left
[15:39] <javatexan> sawireless: thats the biggest problem usually, that or you may have a firewall preventing the connection
[15:40] <javatexan> sawireless: I think I had to use the server's IP address in the remote FE's setup
[15:40] <oobe> run mythbuntu-control-centre and check mysql over ethernet
[15:41] <oobe> its under system services
[15:41] <javatexan> sawireless:  then you just have to make sure that your remote FE has the right mysql password
[15:43] <javatexan> sawireless:  that's at least the major things to look for other than typical networking stuff.  Make sure the two computers can actually see each other, etc
[15:47] <rhpot1991> javatexan: saw you were looking for me a few days back?
[15:50] <Essobi> Morning.
[15:52] <oobe> Morning.
[15:52] <rhpot1991> morning
[15:52] <Zinn> @say Good Morning
[15:53] <oobe> you should of used a full stop :8
[15:53] <Seeker`> hi
[15:55] <oobe> hello
[16:14] <javatexan> yeah...just to say hi
[16:16] <javatexan> has anyone done the update manager update from 8.10 to 9.04?  did it work, I'd hate to stop what I am working on to reinstall.
[16:18] <javatexan> rhpot1991: finally got free of my hellish workload and this summer should be more relaxed, I hope. grin.  So I should be around more now for a while anyways.
[16:19] <rhpot1991> javatexan: cool
[16:19] <rhpot1991> javatexan: my updates all went fine
[16:19] <rhpot1991> the new update manager in 9.04 is annoying, I disabled it, but other than that everything went smoothly
[16:22] <Seeker`> how do you disable it?
[16:23] <rhpot1991> Seeker`: launch it then its under the options or something, I'm not in front of my machine now
[16:23] <rhpot1991> you just disable the automatic updates
[16:24] <rhpot1991> actually I can check on my netbook...
[16:25] <rhpot1991> launch update manager > settings button > uncheck 'check for updates'
[16:26] <rhpot1991> you will need to update by hand after that, be it by update manager or apt over ssh, etc
[16:28] <Seeker`> cool, thanks
[16:29] <rhpot1991> np
[16:29]  * Seeker` needs to work out a way of reducing the risk of image retention on his plasma
[17:06] <Essobi> ....
[17:06] <Essobi> Seeker`: Randomize the pixel output?
[17:06] <Essobi> :)
[17:07] <Seeker`> it may solve the problem, but isn't really a good solution :P
[17:08] <Seeker`> ideally the screen would blank whenever mythtv is left sitting at a menu, or is paused
[17:09] <rhpot1991> my tv does that for me automagically, you could just use the gnome screensaver, should work fine if you aren't using xine or any external player
[17:16] <Seeker`> I use mplayer for videos
[17:17] <Seeker`> will it do it when the TV is paused?
[18:04] <javatexan> rhpot1991: i have a script I want you to look at, maybe Mythbuntu could use it, who knows.
[18:09] <javatexan> it still needs to be "bullet proofed" a lot, its a combination of a lot of different things I've found and learned over the past year or so.
[18:36] <Seeker`> it seems that when i use gnome-screensaver, it is still active when stuff is playing
[18:36] <Seeker`> and when it blanks the screen, I cant get it to unblank if there is sometihng playing, which means that I need to restart X
[18:48] <K-A-R-R[NEED-HEL> !help
[18:48] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[18:48] <K-A-R-R[NEED-HEL> darn
[18:48] <K-A-R-R[NEED-HEL> i need help
[18:48] <K-A-R-R[NEED-HEL> with Myhthbunty
[18:48] <K-A-R-R[NEED-HEL> with Myhthbuntu
[18:48] <Seeker`> it would help us if you told us what the problem was
[18:48] <K-A-R-R[NEED-HEL> howto install
[19:20] <Essobi> ....
[19:23] <Blz> Hello!  I have a problem with video output on mythbuntu 9.04 -- The xfce desktop displays fine, but when I go to run the mythtv backend setup, the graphics fail.  I basically get a black screen with grey input areas, but no text is visible.  I'm using an ATI card with the proprietary driver.  Any ideas?
[19:28] <foxbuntu> Blz, I would start by checking that fglrx is indeed in use... check /etc/X11/xorg.conf for fglrx in the "Device" section (it may not be there however), check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors, try posting all of your logs to provide us with more information using Mythbuntu Log Grabber and posting the pastebin link in here
[19:31] <Blz> foxbuntu:  thank you.  I'll finish my burger and get right on that =)
[19:36] <Seeker`> foxbuntu: any ideas anbout my screensaver problem
[19:36] <foxbuntu> Seeker`, I would have said something if I did :)
[19:37] <Seeker`> not sure if you read back that far :)
[19:37] <rhpot1991> Seeker`: internal player or something else?
[19:37] <Seeker`> internal
[19:37] <Seeker`> this is while watching recorded TV
[19:37] <Blz> burger complete... ssh commencing
[19:37] <rhpot1991> hmmm I thought it was supposed to play nice with internal player
[19:38] <rhpot1991> I know it doesn't play well with xine
[19:44] <Seeker`> :(
[19:45] <rhpot1991> Seeker`: I've seen threads in the forums, search there and see if there is any help
[19:45] <Seeker`> its really annoying, becuase i'm trying very hard to avoid damaging my plasma TV, and I have to turn the TV off whenever I leave the room in case i'm gone for a while
[19:45] <Blz> foxbuntu:  here's my xorg.conf file.  There's no fglrx line, but I'm submitting it in case there's something else of relevance.  Working on the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file now
[19:46] <Blz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/191058/
[19:46] <foxbuntu> Blz, that seems normal
[19:46] <foxbuntu> so far so good
[19:52] <Blz> man this is a long log...
[19:53] <Blz> foxbuntu:  here's the logfile -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/191064/
[19:54] <foxbuntu> Blz, you are using Radeon not FGLRX
[19:54] <foxbuntu> Blz, Radeon is the OSS driver
[19:55] <foxbuntu> Blz, and depending on your chipset, it may not be supported to do certian things
[19:55] <Blz> is that right?  i selected the proprietary driver during installation
[19:55] <Blz> how would I install fglrx?
[19:55] <Blz> preferably at the command line because last I checked, there wasn't any proprietary driver in the hardware driver manager
[19:56] <foxbuntu> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[19:56] <Blz> does it autoconfigure or do I have to do it?
[19:56] <foxbuntu> then in your xorg.conf, add this line in the device section: Driver  "fglrx"
[19:57] <foxbuntu> I think it will auto configure
[19:57] <foxbuntu> but you may have to add the line to xorg.conf
[19:57] <foxbuntu> then you will need to reboot
[19:57] <foxbuntu> after the driver is installed
[19:59] <Blz> Do i replace the line that currently exists or do I just add it?
[19:59] <Blz> it says it's already installed. i guess I just add the line?
[20:00] <foxbuntu> yeah, add the line
[20:00] <foxbuntu> in the device section
[20:01] <Blz> Here's what I did, if you don't mind sanity-checking -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/191072/
[20:02] <foxbuntu> Blz, it should look like this: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m5614cf7f
[20:03] <Blz> done. restart?
[20:04] <foxbuntu> Blz, if you are in via ssh, you can do this: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[20:05] <Blz> this is xfce... shouldn't matter though right?
[20:05] <foxbuntu> nope
[20:10] <Blz> the display is all messed up now...
[20:10] <Blz> strange...
[20:10] <foxbuntu> Blz, messed up how?
[20:11] <Blz> it's mirored on the vertical plane and the lower half is black/white bars
[20:12] <Blz> also it looks like it' stuck on some part of the usplash.  i'm not getting to the desktop
[20:14] <foxbuntu> Blz, try a reboot
[20:14] <Blz> i just did
[20:20] <foxbuntu> same thing?
[20:20] <foxbuntu> (i assume)
[20:23] <Blz> yes sorry
[20:23] <Blz> same thing
[20:24] <foxbuntu> Blz, im thinking on it...but at my day job atm so Im a little busy too
[20:24] <foxbuntu> Blz, just FYI so you dont think I left/am ignoring you
[20:24] <Blz> it's all good. there's no important data so i can always re-install
[20:24] <Blz> foxbuntu:  sure thing =)  It's not like you're being paid to help me lol
[20:24] <foxbuntu> Blz, you can just change the "fglrx" to "ati" or "radeon" and try again
[20:25] <Blz> okay
[20:28] <Blz> no luck...
[20:29] <Blz> alright. the woman wants to go to khols
[20:29] <Blz> i'll work on this later
[20:49] <MythbuntuGuest26> hello i have a problem when i installed mythbuntu 9.04 and click on mythtv edit with run database it will be black with a frame. so the frame how 7.10 but than i can read it.
[20:49] <MythbuntuGuest26> any idears?
[20:51] <MythbuntuGuest26> so i rant run backend setup
[20:52] <MythbuntuGuest26> rant = cant
[20:56] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest26, if you are using AMD graphics you need to install the closed source drivers
[20:56] <superm1> there is an open bug related to that, see the 9.04 release notes
[21:01] <MythbuntuGuest26> oh ok i have tryd the open source drivers, too. same problem
[21:01] <MythbuntuGuest26> known problem, too?
[21:02] <superm1> that's what i'm saying the bug is - in the open source drivers
[21:02] <superm1> there is a workaround that you can add to /etc/mythtv-session settings mentioned in that bug somewhere
[21:02] <superm1> or you can use the closed driver
[21:03] <MythbuntuGuest26> the closed driver wont work, too.... i will search for the workaround, thanks
[21:09] <MythbuntuGuest26> can you say me where i can found the workaround?
[21:19] <superm1> its on that bug report
[21:22] <MythbuntuGuest26> ok i search again
[21:24] <MythbuntuGuest26> the bug i have found, but the workaround... mhh
[21:25] <MythbuntuGuest26> ah i think i have found i must dri make off
[21:32] <MythbuntuGuest26> mutch thanks, byeee
[22:02] <mitchell2345_myt> Hi, i have an issue with my new mythbuntu install.  I migrated from a cent os/atrpms install.  I am running trunk.  I have all my old part. mounted and my db imported.  when i run mythfrontend i cant see any graphics or text unless i use G.A.N.T.  Any ideas?