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| stgraber | highvoltage: Hi, I released 2.0.1 for ltsp-cluster-accountmanager just so you know | 14:23 |
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| LaserJock | hey guys, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu/9.10/Tasks needs some filling in | 15:43 |
| sbalneav | LaserJock: ok | 15:52 |
| sbalneav | I'll fill in some :) | 15:52 |
| sbalneav | LaserJock: Howzzat? | 15:56 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: wha? | 15:58 |
| sbalneav | I updated some tasks. | 15:58 |
| * stgraber too | 15:58 | |
| sbalneav | Gotta ping that guy on #sabayon again. | 15:59 |
| LaserJock | we should probably have some more detail on ISO testing and website refreshing | 16:01 |
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| === jussio1 is now known as Android | ||
| === Android is now known as Tuhina | ||
| === Tuhina is now known as jussi01 | ||
| asanchez | hi LaserJock, we are planning study edubuntu-menus in order to identify our needs and generate some docs at the same time | 17:15 |
| asanchez | we don't have any human resource right now to begin to study edubuntu-menus but i hope to free some of them after GuadalinexEdu deploy in a few weeks | 17:16 |
| sbalneav | asanchez: If you're going to do some docs on it, would you mind coordinating with me? I'd like to get them documented in the edubuntu handbook as well. | 17:17 |
| asanchez | sbalneav, of course | 17:17 |
| LaserJock | asanchez: well, what do you guys generally need? | 17:18 |
| LaserJock | asanchez: do you want to distribute essentially static menus? | 17:18 |
| asanchez | LaserJock, we need to organize Education menu in twwo levels | 17:19 |
| Nubae-bus | asanchez so its looking good for me to come to Sevilla | 17:19 |
| Nubae-bus | they want an interview for me there | 17:19 |
| Nubae-bus | so I'll probably be able to do that end of June | 17:19 |
| asanchez | Nubae-bus, good news | 17:19 |
| asanchez | we'll very happy to work with you in our team | 17:20 |
| Nubae-mob | asanchez if u need me to do any work for u guys before then, let me know, I'm relatively free, so just ask | 17:20 |
| LaserJock | asanchez: what levels do you have? | 17:20 |
| asanchez | LaserJock, our goverment "recommends" us to organize Education menu by subject | 17:20 |
| asanchez | LaserJock, i'm going to have one screenshot, give me 1 minute | 17:21 |
| Nubae-mob | reorganising menus sounds relatively trivial... how do u want to do it though, through a script? | 17:21 |
| LaserJock | Nubae-mob: hopefully using edubuntu-menus | 17:21 |
| LaserJock | which is a Xsession script that modifies the menu configuration directory depending on what groups the user belongs to | 17:22 |
| asanchez | I hope we can use edubuntu-menus | 17:23 |
| asanchez | we need to add some extra applications to edubuntu | 17:23 |
| LaserJock | sure, you should have a guadalinexedu-menus package | 17:25 |
| LaserJock | but the concept is that you don't change any .desktop files at all | 17:25 |
| LaserJock | so you won't have to modify any existing packages | 17:25 |
| nubae2 | is menus copded in python? | 17:25 |
| asanchez | yes, that is our goal | 17:25 |
| LaserJock | and if you uninstall the -menus package you revert to normal behavior | 17:25 |
| LaserJock | nubae2: no | 17:25 |
| nubae2 | ill have to look closer at it | 17:26 |
| LaserJock | nubae2: the menu rendering is done in C | 17:26 |
| LaserJock | nubae2: but the actual menus are a XDG spec and are in XML | 17:26 |
| nubae2 | oh... c is not my friend | 17:27 |
| LaserJock | you don't need to worry about that though | 17:27 |
| LaserJock | nubae: just grab the edubuntu-menus package and poke around | 17:27 |
| bencrisford | hey LaserJock | 17:27 |
| LaserJock | the reason we didn't push edubuntu-menus before is that we got hung up on having a GUI editor | 17:28 |
| LaserJock | right now you need to manually create the menu file | 17:28 |
| LaserJock | which is fine for static deployments | 17:29 |
| bencrisford | we talking about menus? | 17:29 |
| LaserJock | but doesn't give the educators much freedom | 17:29 |
| LaserJock | bencrisford: yep | 17:29 |
| bencrisford | and they are currently hardcoded? | 17:29 |
| LaserJock | kinda'ish | 17:29 |
| bencrisford | that must be a hassle | 17:30 |
| asanchez | Here is one screenshot of guadalinexedu Education menu: http://www.juntadeandalucia.es/averroes/cga/files/guadalinexedu_menu.png | 17:30 |
| LaserJock | the menus themselves are mostly dynamic in the sense that you don't have to specify *every* menu item | 17:30 |
| LaserJock | but you have to do a lot of work to create a new group menu | 17:30 |
| LaserJock | and you have edit them by hand if you want to change the general layout, etc. | 17:31 |
| asanchez | nowadays this is not an easy task for a teacher for example | 17:31 |
| LaserJock | asanchez: do you guys have a standard set of packages or do you let teachers install whatever they want> | 17:32 |
| LaserJock | ? | 17:32 |
| asanchez | nobody has access to install nothing | 17:32 |
| LaserJock | ok, then that actually makes it pretty easy | 17:33 |
| asanchez | teachers can make a request about any application and we package it and then deploy to all computers | 17:33 |
| LaserJock | so it would take maybe 30min-1hr to get you ready to go | 17:33 |
| asanchez | we have a lot ot apps included that don't come by default in (edu)buntu | 17:33 |
| asanchez | LaserJock, 2 hours to make a complete deploy into servers | 17:34 |
| LaserJock | it depends somewhat on the .desktop files of your packages | 17:34 |
| LaserJock | the menu uses the Categories= field in the .desktop files | 17:35 |
| LaserJock | so if we can match categories up with the Education menu your government says you need then it will be very easy | 17:35 |
| asanchez | yes | 17:35 |
| LaserJock | you can also specify that a particular .desktop file should go in a certain category | 17:36 |
| asanchez | I'll try to have a report about our study of edubuntu-menus as soon as possible | 17:36 |
| LaserJock | don't hesitate to email edubuntu-devel if you need help | 17:37 |
| LaserJock | one of Edubuntu's jobs is to make your job easier :-) | 17:37 |
| asanchez | we'll do it, thanks | 17:37 |
| nubae | gah, Laserjock is gone I see :-( | 21:52 |
| sbalneav | Oooh. Found a great new latin phrase | 21:57 |
| sbalneav | omnes feriunt, ultima necat | 21:57 |
| sbalneav | "All the hours wound. Last one kills" | 21:57 |
| * sbalneav likes to collect latin sayings | 21:58 | |
| sbalneav | omnia dicta fortiora si dicta Latina | 21:58 |
| sbalneav | Everything said is stronger if said in Latin. | 21:59 |
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