=== nubae1 is now known as Nubae [14:23] highvoltage: Hi, I released 2.0.1 for ltsp-cluster-accountmanager just so you know [15:43] hey guys, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu/9.10/Tasks needs some filling in [15:52] LaserJock: ok [15:52] I'll fill in some :) [15:56] LaserJock: Howzzat? [15:58] sbalneav: wha? [15:58] I updated some tasks. [15:58] * stgraber too [15:59] Gotta ping that guy on #sabayon again. [16:01] we should probably have some more detail on ISO testing and website refreshing === jussi01 is now known as jussio1 === jussio1 is now known as Android === Android is now known as Tuhina === Tuhina is now known as jussi01 [17:15] hi LaserJock, we are planning study edubuntu-menus in order to identify our needs and generate some docs at the same time [17:16] we don't have any human resource right now to begin to study edubuntu-menus but i hope to free some of them after GuadalinexEdu deploy in a few weeks [17:17] asanchez: If you're going to do some docs on it, would you mind coordinating with me? I'd like to get them documented in the edubuntu handbook as well. [17:17] sbalneav, of course [17:18] asanchez: well, what do you guys generally need? [17:18] asanchez: do you want to distribute essentially static menus? [17:19] LaserJock, we need to organize Education menu in twwo levels [17:19] asanchez so its looking good for me to come to Sevilla [17:19] they want an interview for me there [17:19] so I'll probably be able to do that end of June [17:19] Nubae-bus, good news [17:20] we'll very happy to work with you in our team [17:20] asanchez if u need me to do any work for u guys before then, let me know, I'm relatively free, so just ask [17:20] asanchez: what levels do you have? [17:20] LaserJock, our goverment "recommends" us to organize Education menu by subject [17:21] LaserJock, i'm going to have one screenshot, give me 1 minute [17:21] reorganising menus sounds relatively trivial... how do u want to do it though, through a script? [17:21] Nubae-mob: hopefully using edubuntu-menus [17:22] which is a Xsession script that modifies the menu configuration directory depending on what groups the user belongs to [17:23] I hope we can use edubuntu-menus [17:23] we need to add some extra applications to edubuntu [17:25] sure, you should have a guadalinexedu-menus package [17:25] but the concept is that you don't change any .desktop files at all [17:25] so you won't have to modify any existing packages [17:25] is menus copded in python? [17:25] yes, that is our goal [17:25] and if you uninstall the -menus package you revert to normal behavior [17:25] nubae2: no [17:26] ill have to look closer at it [17:26] nubae2: the menu rendering is done in C [17:26] nubae2: but the actual menus are a XDG spec and are in XML [17:27] oh... c is not my friend [17:27] you don't need to worry about that though [17:27] nubae: just grab the edubuntu-menus package and poke around [17:27] hey LaserJock [17:28] the reason we didn't push edubuntu-menus before is that we got hung up on having a GUI editor [17:28] right now you need to manually create the menu file [17:29] which is fine for static deployments [17:29] we talking about menus? [17:29] but doesn't give the educators much freedom [17:29] bencrisford: yep [17:29] and they are currently hardcoded? [17:29] kinda'ish [17:30] that must be a hassle [17:30] Here is one screenshot of guadalinexedu Education menu: http://www.juntadeandalucia.es/averroes/cga/files/guadalinexedu_menu.png [17:30] the menus themselves are mostly dynamic in the sense that you don't have to specify *every* menu item [17:30] but you have to do a lot of work to create a new group menu [17:31] and you have edit them by hand if you want to change the general layout, etc. [17:31] nowadays this is not an easy task for a teacher for example [17:32] asanchez: do you guys have a standard set of packages or do you let teachers install whatever they want> [17:32] ? [17:32] nobody has access to install nothing [17:33] ok, then that actually makes it pretty easy [17:33] teachers can make a request about any application and we package it and then deploy to all computers [17:33] so it would take maybe 30min-1hr to get you ready to go [17:33] we have a lot ot apps included that don't come by default in (edu)buntu [17:34] LaserJock, 2 hours to make a complete deploy into servers [17:34] it depends somewhat on the .desktop files of your packages [17:35] the menu uses the Categories= field in the .desktop files [17:35] so if we can match categories up with the Education menu your government says you need then it will be very easy [17:35] yes [17:36] you can also specify that a particular .desktop file should go in a certain category [17:36] I'll try to have a report about our study of edubuntu-menus as soon as possible [17:37] don't hesitate to email edubuntu-devel if you need help [17:37] one of Edubuntu's jobs is to make your job easier :-) [17:37] we'll do it, thanks [21:52] gah, Laserjock is gone I see :-( [21:57] Oooh. Found a great new latin phrase [21:57] omnes feriunt, ultima necat [21:57] "All the hours wound. Last one kills" [21:58] * sbalneav likes to collect latin sayings [21:58] omnia dicta fortiora si dicta Latina [21:59] Everything said is stronger if said in Latin.