| shtylman | Riddell: will fill out spec...just got back from a few days at the beach | 00:09 |
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| jjesse | JontheEchidna: your weather desktop should turn a really nasty weather for tornador warnings and thunderstorm warnings like we are underhere | 00:36 |
| JontheEchidna | jussi01: I think things should be better now :) | 01:28 |
| vorian | yo | 01:30 |
| JontheEchidna | yo | 01:31 |
| vorian | where do we stand? | 01:32 |
| JontheEchidna | lex and I (but mostly lex) ripped through backports today | 01:32 |
| JontheEchidna | kdeedu is all that's left | 01:32 |
| vorian | sheesh | 01:32 |
| vorian | that's awesome | 01:32 |
| JontheEchidna | 1) We are on time | 01:32 |
| JontheEchidna | 2) The packages dont' suck this time | 01:33 |
| JontheEchidna | :D | 01:33 |
| JontheEchidna | == awesome | 01:33 |
| vorian | it feels good to actually have time to help this time | 01:33 |
| vorian | or this round | 01:33 |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: you should poke riddell or scottk to sponsor your konvi 1.2 alpha3 package | 01:41 |
| JontheEchidna | otherwise it'll never be uploaded ;-) | 01:42 |
| seele | is kubuntu karmic netbook edition going to be a separate install or an option during install? | 01:46 |
| genii | Hello. Wanted to enquire if anyone knows if 10.04 will be an LTS for Kubuntu? (since 8.04 isn't) | 01:57 |
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| vorian | bug 385005 | 01:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 385005 in kdebase "kdebase ate my bases" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/385005 | 01:58 |
| lex79 | lol | 01:59 |
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| lex79 | ScottK: can you look here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~alessandro-ghersi/+archive/ppa | 02:00 |
| lex79 | ScottK: to sponsor konversation? thanks | 02:00 |
| JontheEchidna | vorian: "Resolved: OM NOM NOM NOM" | 02:02 |
| vorian | yeah, see -bugs | 02:02 |
| JontheEchidna | the channel or the ml? | 02:03 |
| vorian | channel | 02:03 |
| JontheEchidna | figures I don't idle there anymore | 02:03 |
| vorian | but you are the king of bugs | 02:04 |
| JontheEchidna | I'd use -bugs-announce if anything | 02:05 |
| JontheEchidna | I dun need no silly interaction wit humans for boogs | 02:05 |
| JontheEchidna | >:3 | 02:06 |
| vorian | yah, silly humans | 02:06 |
| vorian | ok | 02:07 |
| vorian | so my grapics card on my desktop blew up today | 02:07 |
| JontheEchidna | mah bug/dev window: http://imagebin.ca/view/B1bjY4c2.html | 02:07 |
| vorian | geeeeeforce 8600 | 02:07 |
| vorian | what's an awesome card to get these days? | 02:07 |
| JontheEchidna | um | 02:08 |
| JontheEchidna | not a Geforce 4 MX 440 | 02:08 |
| JontheEchidna | I'd stick with nvidia tho | 02:08 |
| vorian | yeah <3 nvidia | 02:08 |
| lex79 | kdebase captured my horsemen | 02:12 |
| lex79 | fantastic :) | 02:12 |
| vorian | :-/ | 02:12 |
| JontheEchidna | kdebase sunk my battleship | 02:15 |
| JontheEchidna | out o' curiosity, watcha testing? | 02:18 |
| JontheEchidna | *whatcha | 02:18 |
| vorian | the test failed | 02:18 |
| vorian | by about 2 months | 02:19 |
| JontheEchidna | time travel experiments? | 02:19 |
| vorian | yes | 02:19 |
| JontheEchidna | zomg! | 02:19 |
| vorian | http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?ISList=14-121-309-S01%2c14-121-309-S02%2c14-121-309-S04%2c14-121-309-S03%2c14-121-309-S05&S7ImageFlag=1&Item=N82E16814121309&Depa=0&WaterMark=1&Description=ASUS%20GeForce%20GTS%20250%20ENGTS250%20DK%2fHTDI%2f1GD3%20Video%20Card%20-%20Retail | 02:21 |
| vorian | whoa! | 02:21 |
| vorian | sorry | 02:21 |
| ScottK | seele: It'll have to be a separate install. | 02:54 |
| ryanakca | ScottK: Did you ever get around to signing my key? | 02:59 |
| ScottK | ryanakca: I have not done any of them yet. | 02:59 |
| ryanakca | ScottK: OK | 02:59 |
| ScottK | It's been a bit busy as I left for a business trip on Sunday after getting home from UDS on Saturday and I'm still on the subsequent trip. | 03:00 |
| ryanakca | ScottK: Fun fun :) | 03:01 |
| yuriy | we in on this branding thing? | 03:13 |
| ScottK | We need someone to work our end of it. | 03:13 |
| * ScottK thinks it is a good idea, but is not volunteering. | 03:14 | |
| yuriy | our end of it == artwork? | 03:15 |
| * yuriy doesn't know of any artists in here other than kwwii | 03:15 | |
| seele | ScottK: hmm.. i'm not sure if enough of kde will be optimized for netbooks by then to make a difference | 03:16 |
| ScottK | seele: Tonio_ has been working on an alternate set of default settings. | 03:16 |
| yuriy | somebody here know the system groups on ubuntu well? | 03:21 |
| yuriy | ScottK? | 03:21 |
| ScottK | Dunno about well. What's your question? | 03:21 |
| yuriy | in userconfig there is a view that shows groups as "privileges" in easier terms | 03:22 |
| yuriy | there is a hardcoded dictionary as to what these are, and it's out of date | 03:22 |
| yuriy | at least, a couple of those groups aren't actually there by default and there are probably more than can be added | 03:23 |
| yuriy | here is the current list, I was looking for someone to help update it: http://dpaste.com/53109/ | 03:24 |
| yuriy | s/than can/that can | 03:26 |
| ScottK | yuriy: This looks relevant: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Intrepid/DevicePermissions | 04:13 |
| yuriy | ScottK: interesting, all those groups are still in Jaunty | 04:32 |
| ScottK | I think that gives you a list to work from. | 04:32 |
| DaskreeCH | Anyone up? | 04:58 |
| DaskreeCH | Installing from the KDE 4.3 experimental repo and everything installs fine without any hitches but the desktop comes up with no icons at all | 04:59 |
| DaskreeCH | Known Issue? | 04:59 |
| DaskreeCH | http://imagebin.ca/view/Mrg5Xbzp.html | 04:59 |
| nixternal | w00t, apport-qt4 now has pitti's new interactive hooks support :) | 05:37 |
| nixternal | I realized that I still suck at Qt Designer, and itemAt() is your friend in QLayouts when dynamically creating CheckBoxes or RadioButtons | 05:38 |
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| jussi01 | DaskreeCH: I think the beta 2 is still building in the ppa, so its missing stuff. | 06:59 |
| DaskreeCH | jussi01: Well Yeah I just noticed it's Beta 2 ;-) And the missing part was kde-icons-oxygen I just installed it and it's fine | 07:00 |
| DaskreeCH | !nvidia | 07:01 |
| ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | 07:01 |
| * Quintasan is off to Warsaw | 07:01 | |
| Quintasan | see you on Thursday | 07:01 |
| DaskreeCH | ok | 07:02 |
| DaskreeCH | jockey-kde fails in KDE 4.3 saying there is no python module names kdecore | 07:31 |
| Mamarok | morning everyone | 08:59 |
| jussi01 | Mamarok: *wave* | 09:01 |
| nixternal | good morning | 09:01 |
| nixternal | and almost goodnight....03:01 | 09:01 |
| Mamarok | hm, I have one broken dependency with 4.2.90, is that already known? | 09:03 |
| Mamarok | kdeutils: Depends: kde-printer-applet (>= 4:4.2.90-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1) but 4:4.2.85-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa2 is to be installed | 09:03 |
| Mamarok | E: Broken packages | 09:03 |
| nixternal | I didn't have any | 09:05 |
| nixternal | let me try a new update and see if I didn't get that earlier | 09:05 |
| nixternal | I must have gotten it earlier...no problems here | 09:05 |
| gribelu | I get it too.. Didn't have kdeutils installed though | 09:05 |
| gribelu | the rest of 4.2.85 upgraded ok | 09:06 |
| Mamarok | jst solved it, I installed printer-applet which is 4.2.90, that removed kdeutils, no more broken stuff now | 09:06 |
| Mamarok | let's see if that breaks something in my everyday use | 09:06 |
| nixternal | hehe | 09:07 |
| gribelu | so kde-printer-applet was renamed to printer-applet | 09:08 |
| gribelu | but kdeutils still depends on kde-printer-applet which stayed at 4.2.85 | 09:08 |
| seaLne | did anyone else find 4.3 plasma on jaunty become unstable after the recent updates? | 09:13 |
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| Riddell | shtylman: welcome back! | 10:12 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: what's happening with kopete-facebook? | 10:16 |
| DaskreeCH | seaLne: Just did a fresh install from the repos beta 2 and it's been running fine | 10:18 |
| DaskreeCH | No Compositing | 10:18 |
| seaLne | i'm thinking i ended up with a part upgrade without noticing last night, so hopefully thats all, installed more stuff this morning and going to reboot when i get a chance | 10:19 |
| DaskreeCH | I instaleld Ubuntu Server added teh experimental repos installed kubuntu and it all came down and installed so far the only thing I've seen go wrong was kde-icons-oxygen wasn't installed | 10:25 |
| cortex_sk | DaskreeCH: i had this problem yesterday, today it works | 10:29 |
| DaskreeCH | Well this was a few hours ago | 10:30 |
| cortex_sk | the same package kde-icons-oxygen@karmic | 10:30 |
| cortex_sk | Package: kde-icons-oxygen | 10:31 |
| cortex_sk | Versions: | 10:31 |
| cortex_sk | 4:4.2.90-0ubuntu1 | 10:31 |
| cbr | dpkg -i --force-all | 10:32 |
| cbr | it has some file conflict again | 10:32 |
| cbr | one icon in several packages | 10:32 |
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| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Meeting scheduling http://www.doodle.com/gnrcikfvukhxce2s | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | ||
| nhandler | Riddell: Why isn't the Doodle poll letting me select a time zone? | 12:41 |
| Riddell | I've no idea | 12:41 |
| nhandler | Riddell: Are the times UTC? | 12:42 |
| Riddell | umm, dunno | 12:43 |
| Riddell | I guess so | 12:43 |
| Riddell | strange that it normally does let you choose | 12:44 |
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| * Nightrose asumed times were UTC | 12:48 | |
| Riddell | nixternal: you did the apport stuff pitti was asking for? | 13:07 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: btw, if we can get some nice core-dev to run the batl10n script we'll have KDE 4.3 fully ready for release | 13:24 |
| JontheEchidna | *hint hint* :D | 13:24 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: I don't think there are any l10n packages | 13:25 |
| vorian | I can run it, just not upload it | 13:25 |
| Riddell | no there's not | 13:25 |
| JontheEchidna | really? I thought I saw some for the last beta at least | 13:25 |
| Riddell | no extragear either | 13:26 |
| vorian | yeah, no l10n | 13:26 |
| JontheEchidna | so what to tell this guy? bug 383503 | 13:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 383503 in kde-l10n-pl "kde-l10n packages are outdated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/383503 | 13:27 |
| seele | what time zone is the pole? | 13:27 |
| JontheEchidna | not as self explanatory as he claims :/ | 13:27 |
| Riddell | seele: UTC we're assuming | 13:27 |
| vorian | JontheEchidna: we could do 4.2.89 | 13:27 |
| seele | hmm | 13:27 |
| JontheEchidna | all of the times go from 9 - midnight here | 13:28 |
| Riddell | vorian: there's nothing in there either | 13:28 |
| vorian | JontheEchidna: subtract 5 giyrs | 13:28 |
| JontheEchidna | *8 | 13:28 |
| vorian | oh, that's weird they made the directory then :) | 13:29 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: close it, say we're waiting for 4.3 l10n packages to appear | 13:29 |
| Underliner | account list | 13:40 |
| Underliner | Sorry | 13:41 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: ping | 14:15 |
| rgreening | So I updated to 4.2.90 yesterday, and my old 4.2.2 kdebindings were removed and no updated was installed. I was left without a kdebindings on my system. This seems wrongs. | 14:16 |
| rgreening | Riddell: ^ | 14:16 |
| Riddell | rgreening: on karmic? | 14:17 |
| rgreening | jaunty | 14:17 |
| Riddell | using ninjas? | 14:17 |
| rgreening | Riddell: hmm... actually, it may be something else... | 14:17 |
| rgreening | I simply just do not seem to have pykde4 stuff anymore | 14:17 |
| rgreening | and it doesn't seem to exist in 4.2.90 bindings packages? | 14:18 |
| rgreening | apt-cache search pykde4 | 14:19 |
| rgreening | python-kde4 - Python bindings for the KDE 4 libraries | 14:19 |
| rgreening | apt-cache policy pykde4-kde4 | 14:19 |
| rgreening | W: Unable to locate package pykde4-kde4 | 14:19 |
| rgreening | ? | 14:19 |
| rgreening | Riddell: the PPA I have enabled is kubuntu-ppa/experimental | 14:20 |
| rgreening | maybe that's not correct? | 14:20 |
| Riddell | apt-cache policy python-kde4 | 14:21 |
| Riddell | lex79 made the kdebindings package | 14:22 |
| rgreening | maybe it's an issue with ~lp | 14:23 |
| Riddell | the python-kde4 package in kubuntu-ppa/experimental is empty | 14:23 |
| rgreening | of thats bad......... | 14:24 |
| rgreening | guess thats why it's failed for me | 14:25 |
| Riddell | I think we shouldn't backport kdebindings, it's too much work, the python stuff needs updated sip and pyqt to have a chance of working | 14:25 |
| rgreening | hmm... now I is hooped :( | 14:26 |
| rgreening | have to try and back out... | 14:26 |
| rgreening | actually Riddell, if it needs the new sip/pyqt, then they should be easily added to the PPA ? | 14:27 |
| Riddell | disable the archive, apt-get remove python-kde4; apt-get install python-kde4 | 14:27 |
| Riddell | nothing about kdebindings is easy | 14:27 |
| rgreening | lol | 14:27 |
| rgreening | true | 14:27 |
| Riddell | and infact is doesn't seem to build with the new soprano | 14:27 |
| Riddell | http://paste.ubuntu.com/191661/ | 14:28 |
| rgreening | blarg.. stupid bindings | 14:28 |
| rgreening | apt-get remove python-kde4; apt-get install kubuntu-desktop (cause it wants to remove 15 packages) | 14:31 |
| Riddell | now now, we should call it compile challenged, not stupid | 14:31 |
| rgreening | lol | 14:31 |
| rgreening | so Riddell, we should delete bindings from PPA to prevent others from experiencing what I have :) | 14:31 |
| Riddell | yes I think so | 14:33 |
| JontheEchidna | shit @ above | 14:52 |
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| Riddell | vorian: you got kdebindings to compile? it entirely fails here on smoke for soprano | 15:16 |
| vorian | Riddell: yeah | 15:16 |
| vorian | smoke built for me | 15:16 |
| vorian | er | 15:17 |
| vorian | well, you know what i mean | 15:17 |
| vorian | python didn't build | 15:17 |
| vorian | a couple of scritengines didn't build | 15:18 |
| Riddell | right | 15:18 |
| Riddell | maybe I should try in a chroot | 15:18 |
| chrisinajar | JontheEchidna: Hello | 15:34 |
| chrisinajar | JontheEchidna: So myself and a friend, brendan0powers, just realized via your kde blog post that we're not the only human beings living in NH | 15:35 |
| JontheEchidna | cool | 15:37 |
| JontheEchidna | I was wondering myself ;-D | 15:37 |
| chrisinajar | haha, indeed, where in NH do you live? | 15:37 |
| * chrisinajar is not an internet stalker, i swear. | 15:37 | |
| JontheEchidna | In the wilderness around Tilton/Northfield | 15:38 |
| * brendan0powers is | 15:38 | |
| chrisinajar | oh wow, you're way out there | 15:39 |
| claydoh | heh, at least here in Maine, I have cable internet :D | 15:39 |
| chrisinajar | we're in Keene, which is somewhat civilized by comparison | 15:39 |
| * claydoh has no *buntu neighbors, tho :( | 15:39 | |
| chrisinajar | we're about an hour and a half away :P | 15:39 |
| chrisinajar | claydoh: that's surprising, there are a lot of insane open source people in maine... | 15:39 |
| * claydoh loves the Keene area | 15:40 | |
| chrisinajar | yeah, we rock :P | 15:40 |
| claydoh | tho I only was there once I loved it there | 15:40 |
| brendan0powers | we go up to main fairly frequently | 15:40 |
| brendan0powers | im with chrisinajar btw | 15:40 |
| claydoh | I live up north in bangor, the "real" maine :) | 15:40 |
| chrisinajar | we are, in fact, about 3 feet away right now. | 15:40 |
| brendan0powers | we were in main on saturday in fact | 15:41 |
| chrisinajar | hmmm... the name sounds really familiar... | 15:41 |
| brendan0powers | doing a hackfest for open1to1 | 15:41 |
| brendan0powers | claydoh: www.open1to1.org | 15:41 |
| chrisinajar | we were up in vasselboro, which i have no idea what that's near. | 15:41 |
| brendan0powers | if you live in main, you may be interested in it | 15:41 |
| JontheEchidna | I have been made fun of for my pronunciation of bangor v.v | 15:42 |
| chrisinajar | JontheEchidna: i have no idea how to pronounce it so.... | 15:42 |
| chrisinajar | JontheEchidna: we new hampshirites get made fun of a lot for how we speak :P | 15:42 |
| JontheEchidna | apparently if you make it sound too much like "bang her", even a little, bangor dudes laugh | 15:42 |
| claydoh | Ban-go-ah, or ban-goh | 15:42 |
| chrisinajar | like our uncontrollable compulsions to say "wicked" constantly | 15:43 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm not a native, so I don't have the New Hampsha/Maine/Mass accent | 15:43 |
| JontheEchidna | my brother caught that "wicked" stuff | 15:43 |
| chrisinajar | it's like tourettes or something | 15:43 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 15:43 |
| JontheEchidna | Moved up here from VA 5 years ago | 15:43 |
| chrisinajar | orly, are you here for school or something? | 15:43 |
| chrisinajar | oh, ok | 15:43 |
| JontheEchidna | My dad had to relocate for his job | 15:44 |
| JontheEchidna | and I'm homeschooled (senior year) | 15:44 |
| chrisinajar | so you probably talk about %70 slower than everyone here :P | 15:44 |
| claydoh | Vassalboro is a few hours away for me | 15:44 |
| JontheEchidna | I have managed to maintain a fairly accent-neutral speech pattern :} | 15:44 |
| * claydoh tries, but accent pops out once in a while | 15:44 | |
| chrisinajar | i've lived in NH all my life, so i talk like a retard | 15:45 |
| brendan0powers | ha | 15:45 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 15:45 |
| * claydoh was a military brat and picked up all sorts of accents | 15:45 | |
| brendan0powers | it takes us about 5 hours to get to bangor | 15:45 |
| chrisinajar | which is......... fun...... | 15:45 |
| brendan0powers | yep | 15:45 |
| brendan0powers | vasleboro was only 3.5 | 15:46 |
| chrisinajar | at least it's not the 7 hours to BAH HABAH | 15:46 |
| claydoh | bangor is about 5 hours away from a lot of interesting things | 15:46 |
| chrisinajar | indeed | 15:46 |
| chrisinajar | a trait shared by most of maine :P | 15:46 |
| claydoh | 7? | 15:46 |
| claydoh | took the long way then | 15:46 |
| chrisinajar | it might have been closer to 6 or 6.5 | 15:47 |
| chrisinajar | i dunno | 15:47 |
| chrisinajar | "really really long" | 15:47 |
| brendan0powers | yea, the LTSP meetings is there every year | 15:48 |
| brendan0powers | its pretty awsome | 15:48 |
| chrisinajar | it is indeed | 15:48 |
| brendan0powers | all you can eat lobster:) | 15:48 |
| claydoh | ewww | 15:48 |
| brendan0powers | don't like lobster? | 15:48 |
| chrisinajar | doesn't that make you not from maine if you don't like lobster? | 15:49 |
| chrisinajar | i figured you'd be evicted or something | 15:49 |
| Riddell | vorian: compiles in a chroot, most strange | 15:49 |
| chrisinajar | *excuse me, sir, there have been reports that you don't like labstah* | 15:49 |
| Riddell | vorian: I'll see if I can get pykde back again now | 15:49 |
| claydoh | chrisinajar: its in my blood, tho born in AK, my grandfather and mother both hated lobstah | 15:49 |
| chrisinajar | ah | 15:50 |
| claydoh | they were true mainahs | 15:50 |
| claydoh | I was merely conceived here :) | 15:50 |
| claydoh | as we stray wayy ot and annoy the people doing real work here :) | 15:51 |
| brendan0powers | claydoh: JontheEchidna: what sort of kubuntu developement do you do? | 15:51 |
| JontheEchidna | hum, interesting question. I'm sorta all over the place | 15:52 |
| JontheEchidna | bug triaging, packaging, bug fixing | 15:52 |
| brendan0powers | bug fixing is always good:) | 15:52 |
| * claydoh is just a hanger-on of sorts, woork in the forum and mailing lists | 15:52 | |
| brendan0powers | cool | 15:53 |
| brendan0powers | we have a kubuntu based thin client company | 15:54 |
| claydoh | cool! | 15:54 |
| brendan0powers | yea, its pretty fun | 15:54 |
| brendan0powers | we sell to education | 15:54 |
| brendan0powers | and have customers all over new england | 15:55 |
| brendan0powers | still stuck on kde 3.5 though | 15:55 |
| chrisinajar | including quite a few in maine ;) | 15:55 |
| brendan0powers | I'm a little nervous about moving to kde4 | 15:56 |
| brendan0powers | we have a bunch of policies and whatnot | 15:57 |
| brendan0powers | and we have to use old hardware | 15:57 |
| Riddell | claydoh: helping on forums and mailing lists is a critical kubuntu contributor function! | 15:57 |
| JontheEchidna | Well, if KDE3 works... I doubt kids need desktop effects | 15:57 |
| JontheEchidna | ;-) | 15:57 |
| JontheEchidna | not to cheapen KDE4 down to desktop effects or anything... | 15:57 |
| brendan0powers | Its true, however, kde3.5 is not supported by kubuntu any more | 15:58 |
| brendan0powers | so its hard to stick with | 15:58 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, yeah. There's that | 15:58 |
| chrisinajar | yeah, there are a few benifits we want... like being able to upgrade kubutntu past hardy :P | 15:58 |
| claydoh | Riddell: thanks :) but I am not a dev, in the sense of code, you coders/packagers/smart people rock! | 15:58 |
| Riddell | claydoh: no point coding if people get stuck when they try to use it | 15:58 |
| claydoh | Riddell: true, but you guys still rock and I love you all | 15:59 |
| chrisinajar | it's true... the non-coders are just as important as the coders... community wise, more so. | 15:59 |
| chrisinajar | well, it's awesome that there are *buntu people up here in the middle of nowhere :P | 16:01 |
| Riddell | #kubuntu-devel is the centre of the universe! | 16:02 |
| claydoh | yes it is | 16:02 |
| brendan0powers | JontheEchidna: so your school year should be over soon, right? | 16:07 |
| JontheEchidna | soon | 16:07 |
| JontheEchidna | I did start a few classes a bit late | 16:07 |
| brendan0powers | do you have any plans for college | 16:08 |
| chrisinajar | JontheEchidna: are you going into your senior year or are you in your senior, and finishing off school now? | 16:08 |
| JontheEchidna | they're still being formulated | 16:08 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm finishing off high school | 16:08 |
| JontheEchidna | bbl, lunch | 16:10 |
| rgreening | middle of nowhere.. try Newfoundland :) | 16:10 |
| rgreening | Im on an island... the only dev here | 16:10 |
| brendan0powers | my grandmother was from newfoundland | 16:10 |
| chrisinajar | a monopoly! | 16:10 |
| rgreening | :P | 16:10 |
| rgreening | brendan0powers: cool | 16:11 |
| brendan0powers | but yea, that kinda sucks | 16:11 |
| rgreening | brendan0powers: what was her maiden name? | 16:11 |
| brendan0powers | I don't actually know... | 16:11 |
| rgreening | lol | 16:11 |
| rgreening | ganny | 16:11 |
| rgreening | granny even | 16:11 |
| rgreening | :) | 16:12 |
| brendan0powers | ha | 16:12 |
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| brendan0powers | yea | 16:12 |
| rgreening | Don't get me wrong, I love it here... but its a pain to travel for sure | 16:12 |
| brendan0powers | yea, I bet | 16:12 |
| rgreening | being an island helps keep the rif-raff away too | 16:13 |
| rgreening | :P | 16:13 |
| brendan0powers | my grandparents used to drive up there once a year | 16:13 |
| brendan0powers | took quite a while | 16:13 |
| chrisinajar | rif-raff eh? | 16:13 |
| rgreening | bwahaha | 16:13 |
| chrisinajar | rif-raff.... are you from the 50's with a handlebar mustache? :P | 16:14 |
| brendan0powers | newfoundland is at least 50 years behind | 16:14 |
| chrisinajar | hahaha | 16:14 |
| chrisinajar | i guess it's reasonable then :P | 16:14 |
| brendan0powers | oh yea, since I'm in this channel, I have a question:) | 16:15 |
| brendan0powers | does anyone know how to prevent users from doing a distrobution upgrade,(hardy to intrepid, etc...) | 16:15 |
| brendan0powers | from synaptic? | 16:16 |
| brendan0powers | I'd like to allow our users to do there own updates, but if they upgraded to intrepid, everything would break:) | 16:16 |
| chrisinajar | everything | 16:16 |
| brendan0powers | it happened once, and the user was in the hospital for 3 weeks | 16:18 |
| rgreening | no handlebar's, but I once has one that was coined a 'porno mustache'... wife made me shave it off :P | 16:18 |
| brendan0powers | it was awful:) | 16:18 |
| nixternal | Riddell: ya, the apport stuff is done | 16:18 |
| rgreening | oh, and 50 year's behind is definately not the case... we actually had the first high speed cable internet in canada, I helped build and deploy it. | 16:19 |
| rgreening | That was 13 yrs ago | 16:19 |
| chrisinajar | that's pretty cool, must have been interesting to work on | 16:20 |
| rgreening | it was. I had to do the core network, develop the apps and they all ran under Linux :) | 16:20 |
| rgreening | back then, we had to build stuff from source a lot.. :) | 16:21 |
| chrisinajar | i would assume as much, it would have been awful if they ran under windows... oh man would that have been awesome... | 16:21 |
| rgreening | lol.. trumpet winsock to the rescue.. NOT! | 16:21 |
| chrisinajar | shit, someone's using all of the pipe on a netmeeting! | 16:21 |
| chrisinajar | (the greatest app windows ever wrote... multiplayer mspaint...) | 16:22 |
| Riddell | nixternal: second green spot on Todo goes to you! :) | 16:22 |
| rgreening | *g* | 16:22 |
| nixternal | yay \o/ | 16:22 |
| nixternal | gotta reboot, kernel upgrade on the server! brb | 16:22 |
| rgreening | Riddell: what's UDS Creator on TODO? :) is that USB creator? | 16:24 |
| Riddell | rgreening: umm, I may have made a thinko, feel free to fix | 16:29 |
| rgreening | :) | 16:29 |
| rgreening | done and updated. I have noted where the ~lp is for the work thus far. | 16:29 |
| jussi01 | *g* "a thinko" :D | 16:29 |
| rgreening | Riddell: usb-creator-kde is going to take a while... just so you know. It is a relatively bog port, as lost's of differences from old version 0.1.15 to 0.2.0 (unreleased) | 16:31 |
| rgreening | s/bog/big/ | 16:32 |
| rgreening | s/lost/lots/ | 16:32 |
| nixternal | Riddell: I guess I will take apport stuff for the rest of the TODO list items | 16:33 |
| Riddell | nixternal: talk to yuriy if you're unsure of anything | 16:38 |
| nixternal | going to start the pyqt->pykde conversion | 16:38 |
| nixternal | its a super easy codebase, nice and clean, self documenting really | 16:39 |
| Riddell | vorian: awooga, pykde working | 16:40 |
| Riddell | nixternal: excellent | 16:40 |
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| yuriy | does making a KCM in python no longer require a cpp? | 17:15 |
| yuriy | i'm looking at system-config-printer for an example | 17:15 |
| Riddell | yuriy: right, not c++ involved | 17:15 |
| Sime | yuriy: nope | 17:15 |
| yuriy | so i need to extend KCModule, and then? | 17:16 |
| Riddell | there's an example in kdebindings/python/pykde4/tools/kcmodule_example/ | 17:16 |
| Riddell | moan, kdebindings takes ages to build | 17:25 |
| nixternal | Riddell: what advantage(s) do we gain by porting apport-qt to apport-kde? | 17:41 |
| nixternal | seeing as all of the widgets in the gui are QLabel, QCheckBox, and QRadioButton | 17:42 |
| Sime | Riddell: are you building beta 2 bindings? | 17:42 |
| Riddell | Sime: yep, just got it done | 17:44 |
| Sime | Riddell: and the polkitqt support is included? | 17:44 |
| Riddell | nixternal: that it uses oxygen by default, sometimes it doesn't | 17:44 |
| nixternal | interesting | 17:44 |
| Riddell | Sime: no still on the todo list for now I'm afraid (rushing to get it in for karmic alpha 2 freeze) | 17:44 |
| nixternal | is that why I have witnessed an ugly dialog every now and then? | 17:44 |
| Sime | Riddell: it should be fairly trivial. | 17:45 |
| nixternal | looks like it might be a gtk dialog, or just a big blocky dialog | 17:45 |
| Sime | Riddell: another Q, how long does it take for it to show up in karmic updates? | 17:46 |
| * Sime has been testing polkit stuff on karmic. | 17:46 | |
| Riddell | Sime: a few hours yet, it'll need to wait for python-qt4 to compile first | 17:46 |
| Sime | Riddell: cool | 17:47 |
| Riddell | Sime: poke me on monday if I havn't aaded the polkit stuff by then | 17:47 |
| Nightrose | hmmm I can't update linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic | 17:49 |
| Nightrose | as they are held back | 17:49 |
| Nightrose | anyone got an idea what the problem is there currently? | 17:50 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: jaunty? karmic? how upgrading? | 17:51 |
| Nightrose | jaunty | 17:51 |
| Nightrose | apt-get upgrade | 17:51 |
| Riddell | try a dist-upgrade ? | 17:51 |
| Nightrose | i tried that yesterday - didn't work - once this update finished here i can tell you which version it wants | 17:52 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: linux-restricted-modules-generic: Depends: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.28-13-generic but it is not installable | 17:56 |
| Nightrose | the package doesn't seem to exist | 17:56 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-generic ? | 18:05 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: oh, there it is, stuck in jaunty propssed | 18:08 |
| Nightrose | http://pastebin.ca/1453947 | 18:09 |
| Nightrose | yea i have proposed enabled | 18:09 |
| rgreening | Riddell: in PyQt, whats the best way to group ui elements so I can enable/disable in one group? | 18:09 |
| rgreening | I was trying QVBoxLayout, only to relize it only disables the layout and not the items in it. | 18:10 |
| rgreening | doh | 18:10 |
| Riddell | rgreening: what's the layout attached to? | 18:11 |
| Riddell | the layout must be attached to a widget which can be disabled | 18:11 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: ok accepted those now, should appear in an hour or so on the archive | 18:13 |
| Nightrose | thx :) | 18:14 |
| rgreening | Riddell: it's part of the main QDialog, but I only wish to disable the stuff in the layout. THe QDialog is the main window | 18:18 |
| yuriy | how do I either get cmake to install to /usr instead of /usr/local (feels like a stupid question) or get system settings to pick up things in /usr/local? | 18:30 |
| rgreening | Riddell: I got it. I used designer to morph it into a QFrame.. that works. | 18:30 |
| yuriy | Riddell: also, any reason system-config-printer is not using python_install? or does the regular install take care of byte compiling and all now? | 18:32 |
| Riddell | yuriy: python_install? | 18:33 |
| Riddell | yuriy: cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr /path/to/build | 18:34 |
| yuriy | that didn't seem to do it, but i may need to clean up | 18:35 |
| yuriy | Riddell: http://api.kde.org/cmake/modules.html#module_PythonMacros | 18:35 |
| yuriy | cleaning up did it | 18:41 |
| lex79 | Riddell: can you look konversation alpha3 in my ppa? https://edge.launchpad.net/~alessandro-ghersi/+archive/ppa | 18:44 |
| lex79 | thx | 18:45 |
| Riddell | yuriy: maybe PYTHON_INSTALL() didn't exist when I wrote the CMakeLists.txt I'm not sure, as a distro it's not very interesting as the .pyc generation should be done during package install not package build | 18:58 |
| Riddell | lex79: doing | 18:59 |
| lex79 | thanks :) | 19:00 |
| Riddell | - use include /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/makefiles/1/cdbs/kde.mk | 19:01 |
| Riddell | lex79: what does Debian use? | 19:01 |
| Riddell | oh, debhelper 7? | 19:01 |
| lex79 | sec | 19:01 |
| nixternal | hrmm, trying to figure out the best way of doing the pyqt->pykde conversion | 19:01 |
| nixternal | it can't be as easy as converting the QApplication to a KApplication | 19:02 |
| Riddell | nixternal: that's about it. kapplication needs the kaboutdata stuff too | 19:02 |
| lex79 | Riddell: in rules there is include debian/debhelper/kde.mk | 19:02 |
| lex79 | and include /usr/share/quilt/quilt.make | 19:03 |
| lex79 | and DH = dh --with quilt | 19:03 |
| Riddell | right, that won't work for our .pot generation indeed | 19:04 |
| Riddell | although they seem to be doing more packages with debhelper, I guess I should learn something about it | 19:04 |
| Riddell | lex79: uploaded! | 19:04 |
| lex79 | thanks Riddell, last version (alpha2) had problems, the patches were not applied | 19:05 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: bzr should be update ;) | 19:10 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: maybe we can look for fix this bug in experimental, launchpad bug 377560 | 19:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 377560 in digikam "[karmic] Digikam does not display anything in the main pane" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/377560 | 19:11 |
| yuriy | this isn't working and I can't find where s-c-p-k is putting it's desktop file to compare with what's working on my system | 19:18 |
| yuriy | when running with kcmshell4 it's failing to import things that work just fine just running the python | 19:21 |
| Riddell | tomsdale: it's in /usr/share/kde4/services/system-config-printer-kde.desktop | 19:22 |
| Riddell | hmm, no | 19:22 |
| Riddell | yuriy: it's in /usr/share/kde4/services/system-config-printer-kde.desktop | 19:22 |
| Riddell | having said that it's not actually working currently in karmic | 19:23 |
| Riddell | yuriy: got code somewhere I can look at? | 19:23 |
| Riddell | yuriy: did you get the example from kdebindings working? | 19:23 |
| Riddell | example is working fine for me | 19:25 |
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| rgreening | Riddell: kdelibs5-dbg seems stuck at 4.2.2 in jaunty from the PPA... strange | 19:26 |
| Riddell | Candidate: 4:4.2.90-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1 | 19:27 |
| Riddell | rgreening: not here | 19:27 |
| rgreening | oh, right.. duh, remember I had to disable the archive earlier due to kdebindings in PPA... | 19:28 |
| * rgreening needs sleep | 19:28 | |
| Riddell | which should now be deleted | 19:28 |
| rgreening | awesome... | 19:28 |
| * rgreening reenables PPA | 19:28 | |
| rgreening | I hate KCrash.... | 19:29 |
| Riddell | hello ruphy | 19:31 |
| yuriy | Riddell: on jaunty it seems to be /usr/share/applications/kde4/kcm-scpk.desktop actually | 19:32 |
| Riddell | yuriy: no, that's old | 19:34 |
| * shtylman recompiling OO ... again.... | 19:35 | |
| yuriy | example works fine | 19:35 |
| Riddell | yuriy: hmm, you're right, it is there | 19:36 |
| Riddell | yuriy: I must have renamed it for 4.3 but not for jaunty | 19:36 |
| DaskreeCH | can someone confirm that jockey-kde throws a No module neamed kdecore fatal error? | 19:39 |
| yuriy | it's just that one import, so must be the code | 19:39 |
| Riddell | DaskreeCH: sounds like you don't have (a working) python-kde4 installed | 19:42 |
| DaskreeCH | Well it's certainly installed | 19:42 |
| Riddell | where from? | 19:42 |
| yuriy | conflicting module names :) | 19:42 |
| DaskreeCH | And this is a clean machine Ubuntu server install then pulled in Beta 2 packages | 19:42 |
| DaskreeCH | Experimental PPA | 19:43 |
| rgreening | DaskreeCH: downgrade kdebindings to 4.2.2 | 19:43 |
| Riddell | DaskreeCH: known broken | 19:43 |
| DaskreeCH | Sorry should have mentioned KDE 4.3 :) | 19:43 |
| rgreening | 4.2.90 was buggered and has been deleted | 19:43 |
| rgreening | kdebindings I mean | 19:43 |
| DaskreeCH | Ah Ok cool Just wanted to know if it was known | 19:43 |
| rgreening | I had same issue | 19:43 |
| rgreening | :) | 19:43 |
| DaskreeCH | Trying to go through all the modules and apps to see if they break | 19:43 |
| DaskreeCH | beta testing ftw \o/ | 19:44 |
| DaskreeCH | We really shuld have a testing script that tries to run all the default apps to see if they work | 19:44 |
| lex79 | rgreening: my fantastic kdebindings package :D | 19:44 |
| rgreening | :P not your fault.. kdebindings is a beast. | 19:44 |
| rgreening | python-kde4 was empty | 19:44 |
| rgreening | so it never built correclty | 19:45 |
| lex79 | yeah, I read ^^^ | 19:45 |
| yuriy | Riddell: got it sort of working -- only works when launching systemsettings from the command line and doesn't get embedded | 19:51 |
| Artemis_Fowl | how often does Launchpad's PPAs run the build process? | 19:54 |
| Artemis_Fowl | I mean I just uploaded a package, when will it be ready? days, hours, minutes? | 19:54 |
| jussi01 | Artemis_Fowl: depends on the queue | 19:58 |
| jussi01 | Artemis_Fowl: afaik, they are built immediataly if there is no queue | 19:59 |
| txwikinger_work | <sniff> My plasma always plays up | 20:00 |
| Artemis_Fowl | jussi01: ok | 20:00 |
| jussi01 | txwikinger_work: aww | 20:01 |
| rgreening | ok, I've just realized how useless KCrash is after installing all dbg no help.. grr | 20:01 |
| shtylman | rgreening: how goes the usb creator? | 20:02 |
| txwikinger_work | All the panels start to be blank | 20:02 |
| txwikinger_work | I have to kill and restart it | 20:02 |
| shtylman | txwikinger_work: I have the same problem in 4.2 with nvidia card | 20:02 |
| txwikinger_work | I have it with intel | 20:02 |
| txwikinger_work | two different intels actually | 20:03 |
| shtylman | txwikinger_work: have you tried 4.3? I am told it has been fixed for intel in 4.3 | 20:03 |
| txwikinger_work | seem to be adapter independent | 20:03 |
| txwikinger_work | I have 4.2.2 here 4.2.3 on the other one | 20:03 |
| txwikinger_work | Is 4.3 already stable? | 20:03 |
| rgreening | shtylman: well... except for the KCrash on insert of USB sticks... | 20:03 |
| rgreening | shtylman: want to take a look at the code? | 20:04 |
| shtylman | heh...oh my.... | 20:04 |
| shtylman | sure | 20:04 |
| shtylman | is it on lp? | 20:04 |
| rgreening | yep, under ~kubuntu-members | 20:04 |
| rgreening | 1 sec.. | 20:04 |
| shtylman | k | 20:04 |
| rgreening | shtylman: bzr branch lp:~kubuntu-members/usb-creator/kde-frontend | 20:05 |
| rgreening | if you want to run it local, it's a bit hoaky... you need to cp ./bin/usb-creator-kde . and ./gui/usbcreator.ui . | 20:06 |
| rgreening | if you don't insert a usb stick, you can do pretty much evertything... except install :) | 20:07 |
| shtylman | k | 20:07 |
| rgreening | still lots of FIME comments in the code :) | 20:07 |
| rgreening | oh, 1 sec.. let me push latest first... | 20:07 |
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| shtylman | k | 20:08 |
| rgreening | shtylman: ok, updated branch | 20:11 |
| shtylman | rgreening: ok fetched...how do I run it again? | 20:12 |
| rgreening | cd into the branch | 20:12 |
| rgreening | cp ./bin/usb-creator-kde . | 20:12 |
| rgreening | cp ./gui/usbcreator.ui . | 20:13 |
| rgreening | ./usb-creator-kde | 20:13 |
| rgreening | should do it | 20:13 |
| rgreening | should prompt for kdesudo password | 20:13 |
| shtylman | '/home/rgreening/Source/ninjas/karmic/usb-creator/usb-creator/usb-creator-kde'] ... that path does not exist on my machine :) | 20:13 |
| rgreening | 1 sec... | 20:13 |
| shtylman | no worries...I can fix it here...just sharing :) | 20:14 |
| shtylman | you should just use the current file name | 20:14 |
| rgreening | I forgot to change that back... was testing... | 20:14 |
| rgreening | oops | 20:14 |
| nixternal | just did an interview for datacenter type work, which I haven't done since the 90s, and I haven't maintained a Windows box since then, never messed with IIS..One question was "You need to restart IIS, how do you do it?" I answered "Right click on My Computer, select Manager, in that window right click on IIS, and select restart" Pulled that answer from my arse and it was correct! | 20:14 |
| nixternal | my next response was "If it is a Windows question, my answer is right click, no need to ask any more Windows questions." :) | 20:15 |
| shtylman | rgreening: indeed...it does crash :) | 20:18 |
| rgreening | ya | 20:18 |
| shtylman | rgreening: where does it put the log files? | 20:19 |
| rgreening | I can't seem to figure out that... I don't think it's working correctly. That's part of the "porting" | 20:20 |
| rgreening | seems to want env vars set... but doesn't seem to work. | 20:20 |
| rgreening | shtylman: seems the logs only get written if it doesn't KCrash | 20:21 |
| rgreening | possibly... | 20:21 |
| shtylman | I see | 20:21 |
| shtylman | rgreening: does it happen if a key is already in the port? | 20:23 |
| rgreening | yep | 20:23 |
| yuriy | oh, are root-only modules just broken in system settings in jaunty? | 20:24 |
| yuriy | they don't embed themselves | 20:24 |
| ryanakca | rgreening: Ping, did you ever get that laptop out? | 20:26 |
| rgreening | ryanakca: oh crap. I totally forgot. can you e-mail me.. Once I get home I always check my mail :) roderick DOT greening AT gmail DOT com | 20:28 |
| ryanakca | rgreening: Aye, will do | 20:28 |
| rgreening | kk | 20:28 |
| DaskreeCH | nixternal: Ha ha ha :-) Hooray for consistency :) | 20:33 |
| jjesse | nixternal: start -> run iisreset also works | 20:34 |
| nixternal | jjesse: Kubuntu CD | 20:35 |
| nixternal | then: start -> reboot | 20:36 |
| jjesse | nixternal: nice | 20:36 |
| rgreening | format c: or fdisk /mbr | 20:36 |
| nixternal | no need for that, Grub will take care of that with the Kubuntu CD :) | 20:37 |
| yuriy | still working out the kinks with system settings embedding, but: http://www.yktech.us/temp/userconfig-systemsettings.png | 20:41 |
| rgreening | shtylman: any ideas? | 20:54 |
| shtylman | rgreening: backend.py | 20:54 |
| shtylman | line 226 | 20:54 |
| shtylman | self.timeouts[udi] = gobject.timeout_add(UPDATE_FREE_INTERVAL, | 20:54 |
| shtylman | self.update_free, udi) | 20:54 |
| shtylman | that is the culprit... | 20:54 |
| shtylman | if you comment him out...the crash goes away | 20:55 |
| shtylman | I am trying to figure out why though | 20:55 |
| rgreening | hmm.... I wonder why it works under the gtk version | 20:55 |
| shtylman | it may lead to discovery of other problem | 20:55 |
| shtylman | are you not sending something back to the backend? | 20:55 |
| rgreening | not that I can see... | 20:57 |
| rgreening | I'm pretty sure I have mirrored everything that needs to be done at a minimum | 20:58 |
| shtylman | k | 20:58 |
| JontheEchidna | yuriy: not embedding themselves is intentional, so that they can be run as root via kdesudo | 21:00 |
| yuriy | JontheEchidna: well that's separate, no? if I click the icon in system settings, i want it in there | 21:02 |
| yuriy | or is that just a workaround to get it to work with kdesudo at all? | 21:02 |
| JontheEchidna | yes | 21:03 |
| yuriy | well that's unpleasant | 21:03 |
| JontheEchidna | otherwise we could not give it root permissions | 21:03 |
| JontheEchidna | policykit should alleviate this in the future | 21:03 |
| yuriy | next on the todo then, policykit | 21:04 |
| JontheEchidna | ;-) | 21:04 |
| yuriy | meanwhile, have to figure out why it's crashing when run from the menu | 21:04 |
| rgreening | shtylman: if you figure somethin gout, let me know. I have to drop off for a while (feel free to e-mail me (my address is in the copyright file :P ). | 21:05 |
| shtylman | rgreening: will do | 21:05 |
| rgreening | ty | 21:05 |
| rgreening | Its definately a gobject issue interacting with pyqt.. and not in the update_free function (I blieve) | 21:05 |
| Sime | yuriy: BTW, I've been working on getting the polkitqt example ported to oython. | 21:05 |
| rgreening | later | 21:05 |
| yuriy | Sime: cool. Any ideas why a module might work when system settings is run from the command line and not from the menu? Or how to get a python trace out of it? | 21:06 |
| Sime | yuriy: the first thing I would do is run it with strace and check where libpython is coming from and the other mods. | 21:08 |
| yuriy | Sime: but my problem is that it works fine when run from the command line, so how would I do that? | 21:09 |
| Sime | yuriy: system-settings works from the command line?? | 21:10 |
| yuriy | Sime: as in I can run systemsettings from the command line, and then the module works | 21:15 |
| Sime | yuriy: but from the menu fails. | 21:15 |
| yuriy | think i got it, working directory issue | 21:16 |
| * yuriy kicks himself to not run things from where all the code is sitting | 21:17 | |
| Sime | :) | 21:19 |
| DaskreeCH | btw is kuser broken? It won't embed into system settings | 21:30 |
| Mamarok | DaskreeCH: I don't think it ever was in systemsettings, only in the System menu group | 21:32 |
| harolddong | kopete and lancelot take up gobs of cpu with these new packages. | 21:42 |
| yuriy | so on my Jaunty machine, I can have some kde widgets in my .ui files, but on karmic I get an error | 21:47 |
| yuriy | any idea what package i need for that | 21:47 |
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| yuriy | Riddell: ^? | 21:56 |
| JontheEchidna | the apport retracing service is going bonkers | 21:58 |
| JontheEchidna | or just retracign really olde bugs that I happen to be assigned to | 21:59 |
| JontheEchidna | or removing core dumps from duplicates | 21:59 |
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| Riddell | yuriy: /should/ just be python-kde4 with /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/PyQt4/uic/widget-plugins/kde4.py | 22:05 |
| Riddell | but that may well be broken in karmic currently | 22:06 |
| yuriy | Riddell: hmm that's there | 22:08 |
| Riddell | yuriy: what are you developing anyway? | 22:09 |
| yuriy | userconfig :) i posted a screenshot earlier | 22:10 |
| yuriy | http://www.yktech.us/temp/userconfig-systemsettings.png | 22:10 |
| yuriy | just about done, need some help packaging now | 22:11 |
| flacoste | i'm trying out the new amarok 2.1, and does any one know how the media device support is supposed to work? | 22:13 |
| flacoste | specifically, i have an iPod touch | 22:13 |
| flacoste | i downgraded from amarok 2 to 1.4 to have it working | 22:13 |
| flacoste | but read that 2.1 improved iPod support | 22:13 |
| flacoste | but i cannot find any info on how it's supposed to work | 22:13 |
| yuriy | what's with the times for the meeting? all 8-11 pm here | 22:14 |
| nixternal | hrmm, what was rgreening talking about kcrash earlier? | 22:18 |
| nixternal | finally got the kde version of apport running, but it goes right into a kcrash and i wasn't sure if the issue might be somewhere else before I dig into it more | 22:18 |
| yuriy | as in the application crashes and goes into kcrash or as in the apport front end crashes and then you get kcrash for that? | 22:19 |
| yuriy | the latter would be ironic | 22:19 |
| nixternal | my app is crashing, which is apport-* :) | 22:19 |
| nixternal | KCrash: Application '' crashing... | 22:20 |
| nixternal | sock_file=/home/nixternal/.kde/socket-ShakaDoobie/kdeinit4__0 | 22:20 |
| JontheEchidna | awesome @ userconfig | 22:22 |
| JontheEchidna | and it only took three developers two dev cycles :P | 22:22 |
| JontheEchidna | the thing is, I know that when I last touched it things sorta "worked" but there were several debilitating bugs. But now I can't remember what those are... | 22:24 |
| JontheEchidna | but I am too lazy to downgrade from the broken python-kde4 packages I have now to do any python testing :P | 22:25 |
| JontheEchidna | I suppose that means I should look in to forking gtk-qt-engine's config module since its C++ | 22:29 |
| yuriy | JontheEchidna: well, i've been working on it for about a week. it's all model/viewified now and I don't *think* there are any debilitating bugs | 22:30 |
| JontheEchidna | nice, awesome work | 22:30 |
| yuriy | now for the packaging... | 22:32 |
| * yuriy looks around | 22:32 | |
| yuriy | JontheEchidna: what's that about broken python-kde4? is that why this isn't running in karmic? | 22:34 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, the packages that we were working on included empty python-kde4 packages | 22:36 |
| JontheEchidna | since we didn't build python-kde4 | 22:37 |
| JontheEchidna | but we caught it and disabled the packaging before uploading to karmic | 22:37 |
| JontheEchidna | pykde apps using dbus are broken currently, though | 22:38 |
| yuriy | what should go in COPYING for gpl v2+? or is that just up to me now | 22:46 |
| Riddell | cp /usr/share/common-licences/GPL-2 COPYING | 22:46 |
| Riddell | oh wow, userconfig working! | 22:47 |
| Riddell | yuriy: what codebase did you start from with userconfig? | 23:17 |
| JontheEchidna | wow, my kcm compiles second try :D | 23:19 |
| JontheEchidna | heh, doesn't work though | 23:20 |
| yuriy | Riddell: the bzr branch we were working on last year | 23:23 |
| yuriy | https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/guidance/userconfig-kde4 | 23:23 |
| yuriy | I checked, the SVN branch hasn't been touched since it was created | 23:23 |
| JontheEchidna | ...because I'm not installing the kcm .so | 23:24 |
| JontheEchidna | woohoo, it works | 23:29 |
| JontheEchidna | just needs a bit of polish | 23:29 |
| JontheEchidna | and we might wanna put in some colorscheme config | 23:29 |
| yuriy | JontheEchidna: what works? | 23:29 |
| JontheEchidna | yuriy: standalone gtk appearance config module | 23:30 |
| yuriy | oh nice | 23:30 |
| JontheEchidna | I took gtk-qt-engine's and am stripping away the gtk-qt-engine specific parts of it | 23:30 |
| JontheEchidna | we may want to advocate its removal from the archives since it is way buggy and unmaintained | 23:31 |
| JontheEchidna | it being gtk-qt-engine | 23:31 |
| JontheEchidna | http://imagebin.ca/view/bGLBgf.html | 23:33 |
| JontheEchidna | that radio button needs to go | 23:34 |
| yuriy | Riddell: can you (or whoever) help with packaging this? | 23:38 |
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