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SerpardumI run kate in konsole, open file, edit, save, close kate.  "KCrash: Application 'kate' crashing...  sock_file=/hime/jim/.kde/socket-ubuntu/kdeinit4__000:18
jillsmitthi00:18
Serpardumwhat can I do to find out what's wrong?  It has done this for a while00:18
ibouhi. Im on jaunty. After i installed wicd i reinstalled plasma-widget-network-manager but now i have to start NetworkManager with a 'sudo NetworkManager' in the console. How to start it at start up?00:18
Serpardumit has to be added to one of the inits00:19
SerpardumI dont' know which one though00:19
ibouone of the inits ?00:19
milo__hi00:20
ibouhi00:20
Serpardumsee if this thread helps you: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1063788.html00:20
milo__im a newbie in linux and i need some help00:20
milo__...00:20
Serpardum...00:21
ibouSerpardum: not really. But thx00:21
milo__while trying to install and configure vpnc for my laptop i think i messed up00:21
Serpardumit looks like /etc/rc.local file may help you00:21
milo__sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers00:21
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Serpardummilo__, did you edit that file?00:22
milo__i think so00:22
milo__and that's the whole problem00:22
Serpardumwell, paste your file in the pasting bin00:22
milo__the file I edited?00:23
Serpardumhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/00:23
Serpardumyes, your sudoers file00:23
milo__do i need to be root to have access to it? if yes i can't because i can't be even root actually00:24
Serpardumyou use kate?  sudo kate00:24
Serpardumin konsole00:24
ibouSerpardum: not really again. But thanks again ^00:24
Serpardumthere is another way but it's like wtf00:24
milo__no. visudo00:24
Serpardumsudo visudo00:24
milo__yup00:25
Serpardumtype sudo visudo then you'll have acces to it in visudo00:25
milo__ok let me try00:25
milo__sudoers file: syntax error, line 24 <<<00:26
milo__sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 2400:26
milo__this is the err im getting00:26
Serpardummilo__, did you paste it?00:26
Serpardumwe have to see what's on line 24 to tell you what's wrong.  WE're not psychic00:26
milo__do you want me to paste the err message?00:26
eMyllerwhere do i get kate extensions?00:27
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Serpardumdo this: run konsole.  type: sudo visudo /etc/sudoers00:27
eMyllerdoes anyone know an editor better than kate?00:27
jillsmittheh)00:27
milo__ok00:27
Serpardumcopy teh file to the clipboard.  open the clipboard link. paste it.00:27
SerpardumeMyller: there are a few00:28
Serpardumyou might find some in apt-cache00:28
eMyllerSerpardum: editor? any example?00:28
milo__same message.00:28
Serpardumpico00:28
Serpardummilo__ PASTE THE FILE TO THE PASTEING BIN SO WE CAN SEE IT00:28
milo__which file? The one i edited in vim?00:29
Serpardum /etc/sudoers00:29
SerpardumeMyller: type in konsole apt-get update00:30
Serpardumthen do apt-cache search editor00:30
Serpardumtons of editors00:30
Serpardumzim, xemacs, nedit, yudit, etc..00:31
milo__pasted.00:31
milo__im getting permission denied when i try /etc/sudoers00:32
Serpardumwhat's the link milo__?00:32
Serpardumto the paste you pasted?00:32
Serpardumcopy the url and paste it here00:33
milo__http://paste.ubuntu.com/191204/00:33
Serpardumthat's the error.  we need you to paste the /etc/sudoers line.00:33
SerpardumListen closely.  run konsole00:33
Serpardumtype: sudo kate /etc/sudoers00:33
Serpardumcopy that text on the right.00:34
Serpardumgo to the pasting bin00:34
Serpardumpaste it.00:34
Serpardumgive us the link00:34
milo__ok00:34
Serpardumreminds me of when I used to do help desk :D00:35
eMyllerSerpardum: okay, but are they better than kate? extensible?00:36
milo__I think im missing something because when i follow closely your instructions, all i get is the same message error i pasted.00:37
eMyllermilo__: http://pastebin.com/00:37
Serpardummilo__:  you see the file open on the right?  hight light it all, click on it and ctrl-a is easist, then right click and "copy to clipboard"00:38
milo__nope. Didn't see any file; just the webpage.00:40
milo__im lost!00:41
Serpardumopen konsole00:43
Serpardumtell me when you did htat00:43
milo__reset00:43
milo__done00:43
Serpardumin konsole type: sudo kate /etc/sudoers00:44
Serpardumtell me when you've done that00:44
milo__done.00:44
Serpardumit asked you for your password?  did you type in your password?00:44
Serpardumif it asks for password type it in.  Did kate open?00:45
milo__it didn't ask for my password but it rather output the error message00:45
milo__it's where im having trouble00:46
Serpardumit output the syntax error ?00:46
milo__exactly00:46
Serpardumwhat error message did it output in konsle00:46
Serpardumdid it say sudoers file: syntax error, line 24 <<<00:46
Serpardum?00:46
coz_hey guys ... any way to get extract here right click for desktop pacakges?00:46
milo__>>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 24 <<<00:46
milo__sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 2400:46
Serpardumwhere does it say that, in konsole?00:46
Serpardumokay, fine, we'll have to try pico then I guess.  pico's a bit ugly00:47
Serpardumyou'll probably need to get it.00:47
milo__just after I typed the command00:47
Serpardumsudo apt-get install pico00:47
milo__ok00:47
Serpardumoh, shit00:47
Serpardumpardon my french00:47
Serpardumyeah, here's the problem00:47
Serpardumthat sudoers file tells the system who can do sudo00:47
Picinano/pico is installed by default.00:47
Serpardumand you can't sudo if it's messed up00:48
Serpardumand you need to sudo to edit it.00:48
Serpardumwow.  umm.00:48
PiciYou can boot into recovery mode to modify it or use a live-cd00:48
Serpardumyeah, try booting into recovery mode and editing yoru screwed up line 2400:48
milo__actually, I don't have the live-cd with me00:49
Serpardumpico is a text based editor00:49
Serpardumtry booting into recovery mode then00:49
milo__but i can use the recov' mode00:49
PiciAnd you should really use visudo to modify the sudoers file00:49
milo__what are the steps to take once into recov' mode?00:50
milo__??00:51
DragnslcrSerpardum- first, never use sudo for GUI programs, always use kdesudo. Second, there's no need to install pico when nano is installed by default00:52
Dragnslcrmilo__- when you boot into recovery mode, you'll be root, so you can fix the sudoers file with just "visudo"00:53
milo__ok. I think i needto remove the line i added, right?00:54
milo__if that's all so...i'll try it and be back00:55
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Serpardumwhat's the difference between sudo and kdesudo?01:09
Dragnslcrsudo is for shell commands, kdesudo is for KDE programs01:09
Dragnslcr!kdesudo01:10
ubottuIn KDE use « kdesudo <program> » (or « kdesu <program> » for Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! | See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to find out why01:10
SerpardumHmm.. that's probably how I broke kate then01:11
Serpardumthat link says that kate won't even run with sudo, although it does for me.  but now it always crashes on exit01:11
SerpardumI wonder if uninstalling kate and reinstalling woudl fix that01:12
mtl_templarhey everyone01:18
mtl_templaranyone able to troubleshoot java issues with an app im trying to install?01:18
Serpardumnope, still crashes.  dang01:18
SerpardumWell, I've backed up my data to my windows drive, so I"ll just recreate teh virtualbox for kubuntu I guess01:19
mtl_templarhmm01:19
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XCPwow... I just installed kubuntu after 8 months with ubuntu, and I'm SO much more impressed with the new KDE. the eye candy (even without compiz) and ability to configure *everything* amazes me.01:43
DragnslcrThe effects in KDE4 are pretty nice01:44
DragnslcrKDE has been "more configurable" than Gnome for a while now. It's a hard trade-off between being flexible and being too complicated01:44
XCPyes. when I first switched from Windows to Linux about 8 months ago, I was "told" that KDE is somehow more buggy than gnome, so I decided to use gnome. hopefully the guy was wrong and I gonna enjoy KDE as much as I can.01:48
geniiEvery desktop environment has it's idiosyncrasies01:48
milo__hey! Im back01:58
ahmad_wb01:58
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milo__im still having a problem02:00
milo__when i try sudo bash, i get this:milo is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported02:01
milo__milo is my username02:01
ahmad_what is the user u created when u installed ur system ?02:02
milo__milo02:04
ahmad_milo__: echo 'zodehala ALL=(ALL) ALL' >> /etc/sudoers02:06
ahmad_sorry02:06
ahmad_milo__: echo 'milo ALL=(ALL) ALL' >> /etc/sudoers02:06
milo__ok, let me try02:07
ahmad_milo__: did it work?02:08
milo__"permission denied!"02:08
ahmad_ok02:08
ahmad_try the following02:08
ahmad_su -02:08
ahmad_visudo02:08
ahmad_add this line to the file: milo ALL=(ALL)     ALL02:09
ahmad_:wq02:09
milo__ok02:11
DragnslcrYou probably need to boot into recovery mode to get root access02:11
geniiYup02:12
geniisu won't work since no default root pw.02:12
DragnslcrIf your only normal user isn't in the sudoers file, that's basically your only option02:12
ahmad_ops i fogot that genii02:12
secozhi to all from mexico02:12
milo__"Authentication failure" for su -02:12
milo__what shld i do now?02:13
b0nnsudo -s02:13
ahmad_you'll have to reboot into single-user mode, and execute usermod02:13
ahmad_directly from root02:13
geniimilo__: Boot to recovery mode. Then do as before the suggested: echo "milo ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers02:14
geniib0nn: His prob is he's not in sudoers file. eg: catch-2202:14
ahmad_is this enough ? you'll have to reboot into single-user mode, and execute usermod02:15
ahmad_directly from root02:15
ahmad_sorry02:15
ahmad_root    ALL=(ALL) ALL <-- is this enough ?02:15
milo__ok. I can have access to the sudoers file from the recov' mode02:16
ahmad_cause i can see my user in sudoers but i can sudo02:16
ahmad_i cant see my user in sudoers i mean02:16
flavio_Alguem poderia me dar uma ajuda com uma instalação de placa Nvidia ?02:17
geniiahmad_: Thats because the default user is an admin. And the line: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL   allows you to sudo02:17
genii!br | flavio_02:17
ubottuflavio_: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.02:17
flavio_opa desculpa cara.. obrigado pelo aviso =]02:17
flavio_#ubuntu-br02:18
geniiflavio_: eg: /join #ubuntu-br02:18
ahmad_genii: if i add username ALL=(ALL) ALL this will override %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL ?02:18
geniiahmad_: It will also introduce a massive security problem02:18
ahmad_then milo__ should not add the line i gave him02:19
ahmad_he should add %admin02:19
geniiahmad_: The best current solution is to add his name to sudoers. Then to boot into regular, add himself to admin group, remove his specific name from sudoers02:19
ahmad_aha i got it now thanx genii02:20
milo__yes yes! how and where shld i add my name?02:20
geniimilo__: As before the suggested: echo "milo ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers02:20
milo__at the top?02:21
geniimilo__: The command given just adds the needed info without having to enter some editor02:21
milo__im a bit lost. so i don't need to be in the recov' mode before entering the command you gave me?02:22
milo__just from the konsole?02:22
ahmad_no milo__ u have to be in recovery mode to run this command02:23
ahmad_or boot with LiveCD02:23
milo__cool02:23
ahmad_run the command then add ur self to admin group02:23
geniimilo__: "recovery mode" puts you into a console. Enter that echo command in there. You choose the recovery mode during boot. Hit ESC when grub starts, choose recovery, etc etc02:23
ahmad_after that u have to remove the line u added to sudoers file02:23
milo__ok. I've already removed the line i added02:25
milo__i will try the comand u gave me02:25
milo__!brb02:28
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about brb02:28
milo__hhihhih. I will be right back02:28
milo__:D02:28
nonewmsgsi am trying to read my ubuntu partition in xp on the same comp and explore2fs works but isnt satisfactory, but ext2ifs isnt working.  it detects the drives, assigns them letters, but windows tells me that the drives are not formated02:35
lee8oinonewmsgs: its not really the best idea to give windows access to the linux partitions. Windows tends to screw things up like that02:36
nonewmsgslee8oi, while i realize this, this machine seems to be more of a windows box than a linux box02:37
lee8oinonewmsgs: ya that happens. if ext2fs addon for windows doesn't do it, then I'm not sure. might be best to get the files you need put onto a flash drive02:37
genii!ext302:39
ubottuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org02:39
geniiThe one above is recommended02:39
lee8oihandy to have02:39
lee8oipretty much a factoid...is that a supybot?02:39
geniiYup02:39
lee8oiahh ok02:39
nonewmsgsoh duh i found it in the troubleshooting02:39
lee8oicool supybots rock if you know python pretty well02:40
nonewmsgsapparantly i didnt cleantly unmount it02:40
lee8oinonewmsgs: that can do it02:40
lee8oihappens with flash drives too. if you dont' remove it properly in windows, won't work right in linux02:40
lee8oisometimes02:40
nonewmsgsflash drives always complain when i go from linux to windows about not being cleanly umounted02:41
nonewmsgsat least th sandisks do02:41
lee8oiya not from linux TO windows.....just from windows to linux02:42
geniinonewmsgs: Thats why you want to issue something like: sudo sync && sudo umount /dev/whatever  && sudo eject /dev/whatever02:44
geniiAnd if from Windows then "safely eject device" from that icon in the tray02:44
nonewmsgsoooooo you do both at the same time.  i always got confuzzled by that.  i would eject without umounting or umount without ejecting02:45
nonewmsgsyup ext2ifs is working fine now!02:49
aditya_hi everyone02:57
milo__hi02:58
ahmad_hi02:58
ahmad_milo__: did it work?02:58
aditya_im new here in irc...umm what is that word...oh yeah noob! :P02:58
milo__yes i think it worked!02:58
ahmad_so u can sudo now ?02:59
milo__but i still have permision denied when i try visudo02:59
milo__yes i can sudo02:59
ahmad_milo__: sudo cat /etc/sudoers02:59
ahmad_copy me at private02:59
geniiUse pastebin please02:59
milo__do u want to take a look at the sudoers file?03:00
ahmad_yea please03:00
milo__ok03:00
milo__http://pastebin.com/m7ca53a3a here is the URL03:02
geniimilo__: The idea is that we made the username of milo specifically allowed to use sudo. But the proper way is now to add your name into the group of "admin" and then remove the line we added before in the sudoers file if the line: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL       exists there already03:02
aditya_wow so many members online and so few to chat with :(03:03
milo__sorry dude03:03
milo__:D03:03
ahmad_wait03:03
geniiaditya_: For casual chat please use #kubuntu-offtopic03:03
ahmad_the %admin line is missing03:03
geniiahmad_: Yes03:04
geniimilo__: Please also pastebin result of command: groups03:04
ahmad_aditya: go to DALnet for chat03:04
milo__genii: I don't really understand03:05
ahmad_milo__:  sudo groups03:05
geniiaditya_: I do not accept Private Messages.03:05
aditya_thanks guys03:06
milo__"root" is the output03:06
geniimilo__: Go into Konsole, and then type: groups                          this will tell us if you already are in the admin group.03:06
ahmad_he is03:06
milo__got "root"03:06
geniimilo__: If the only group you belong to is "root" then something is severely screwed. Unless you are still in Recovery Console03:06
geniiresult of command: groups    on my box: user adm disk dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin admin mythtv03:07
ahmad_milo__: groups03:08
milo__im not in recov' mode anymore03:08
ahmad_genii: its my mistake not his03:08
geniiahmad_: Did you tell him to do something like usermod to add into a goup, without using the -a switch for Apped and not Replace?03:09
genii*Append03:09
draikHello all. I seem to keep having my USB and Internet give out at random times. I SSH, it kills my Internet almost instantly. I try to copy something form my USB, it dies around 10MB of transfer.03:09
ahmad_no geniii asked him to sudo groups :D03:09
ahmad_that will show root only for sure03:10
geniiahmad_: Hehe, makes sense now03:10
draikHow can I find out what is happening with my USB and Internet connection?03:10
ahmad_milo__: run this command without sudo : groups03:10
milo__only "groups"?03:10
ahmad_yes milo__03:10
milo__ok03:11
milo__milo adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare03:11
milo__it's the output03:12
ahmad_ok try this out03:12
geniiahmad_ , milo__ Good... just need to add the admin line to sudoers now and remove the milo-specific one03:12
geniiThen things will be back to normal operation03:12
ahmad_sudo echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers03:13
ahmad_i hope so03:13
ahmad_genii: u know how to run mythtv ?03:13
geniiahmad_: Yes03:13
geniiahmad_: That command won't work03:14
ahmad_please help me with it03:14
ahmad_why not ?03:14
milo__which command?03:14
milo__ahmad's?03:14
geniimilo__: <ahmad_> sudo echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers03:14
geniiThat won't work. It needs admin access to do the >> /etc/sudoers part03:14
genii1 sec I'll write the correct command03:15
milo__ok03:15
ahmad_in this case he need to go to recovery mode again ?03:15
geniimilo__: echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" | sudo tee -a /etc/sudoers03:15
geniiahmad_: Nope03:15
ahmad_ah i see now why it wont work03:15
geniiahmad_: :)03:15
ahmad_nice trick though03:16
ahmad_tee the output03:16
ahmad_genii: would u help me to run mythtv ?03:17
milo__what's that bar be4 sudo?03:17
geniiahmad_: I'm not a MythTV expert :)03:17
geniimilo__: That bar is called a "pipe" . On english keyboards usually it's above the Enter key03:18
Serpardumwhat was the name of the "other" irc client?  I thought it was kommunicator but apt-get doesn't seem to find that03:18
geniiSerpardum: There are a *lot* of irc clients03:18
Serpardumthe one that is similar to kommunicator?03:18
Serpardumname wise?03:18
geniiSerpardum: Quassel, Xchat ,Konversation03:18
genii...03:18
Serpardumkonversation!  that's it, thanks03:19
ahmad_hahhaa03:19
geniiSerpardum: Welcome03:19
geniimilo__: So after that line gets added, need to remove the line which we added earlier from recovery mode.03:20
geniimilo__: For this, you can do:  kdesudo kate /etc/sudoers                  and use Kate to change it03:20
XCPhi! I have an ATI HD 4850, and if I click (in the restricted drivers dialog) on "activate", nothing happens. any idea how to install the driver?03:20
milo__ok03:21
Serpardumthere we go.  Think I got kubuntu back to where I had it before reinstall03:21
milo__got sudoers file in kate in front of me...03:23
Serpardumahh, you fix it?03:24
Serpardumline 25?03:24
milo__not completely03:24
geniimilo__: Good. Remove the line reading: milo ALL=(ALL) ALL03:24
geniimilo__: Then save, and it should be as it should03:24
milo__ok03:24
Serpardumgenii, there is a tutorial out there that says to add that, I didn't.  I dont' know if it breaks things or right but it didnt' look right to me either.03:24
milo__are you sure i have to remove it?03:25
ahmad_milo__: yes remove milo ALL=(ALL) ALL but besure %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL is there03:26
milo__let me check03:26
geniiSerpardum: Putting a specific username is less a prob than ANY as the name... any daemon which has a username could have admin access for instance. Also user "nobody". The specific username is about the same as the admin line, except now he could change his username and still be able to sudo03:26
milo__wasn't there, but i put it. :D03:27
Serpardummine has seemingly 2 lines, root ALL=(ALL) ALL and %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL03:27
geniimilo__: Good.03:27
draikHow can I find out what is causing my computer to no longer connect to the Internet or read USB devices?03:27
geniiSerpardum: Thats what a normal one should look like03:28
Serpardumone tutorial for shared folders told me to add jim ALL=(ALL) ALL but I didn't think that was a good diea03:28
geniidraik: Some investigating.... check output of dmesg for instance to see any weird messages about usb or so on...03:29
Serpardumoh it was jim ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL  it wanted me to add even03:29
draikgenii: Thank you. I will post it right now after the reboot03:29
ahmad_Serpardum: looks dangerous to me03:29
milo__Done!03:30
ahmad_milo__: tru visudo03:30
ahmad_try visudo03:31
milo__Oohh, i did it tru kate03:31
milo__i will just do it again03:31
ahmad_no03:31
ahmad_u dont have to03:31
draikgenii: It just term'd the Internet connection. Here is all I have for the 'eth0' entries...03:32
Serpardumwhat is visudo?  I get permission denied03:32
milo__if i dun have to so, it's ok.03:32
ahmad_milo__: if sudoers file have %admin and milo is removed it should be fine now03:32
draikgenii: eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1      eth0: no IPv6 routers present03:33
geniiSerpardum: There are special commands which lock the file you are working on..special files like sudoers file, password files, and so on. The editor is vi   so visudo   is for sudoers, vipw is for pasword file, etc etc. But on a single-user system any editor is fine03:33
Serpardumahh, kay03:33
draikgenii: A lot more came up. Will reboot to post those results03:34
geniidraik: I'm not going to be able to help much, heading to sleep shortly03:34
draikgenii: OK. I will try to dissect it and see if I can make sense of it all.03:34
geniidraik: I would suggest to pastebin result of command: dmesg03:35
ahmad_genii: u know a good telnet client works on KDE ?03:35
milo__Yataaaa!!! Thanks guys!!!!!03:35
geniiahmad_: I usually use command-line client03:35
ahmad_milo__: welcome03:36
milo__but why did that visudo always permission denied? strange03:36
ahmad_genii: command-line client didnt work with dynamips03:36
draikHere is my dmesg pastebin:  http://pastebin.com/m1eb103aa03:36
ahmad_milo__: its protected03:37
geniimilo__: Because you need to use sudo with it, ironically. But as I just explained to Serpardum, on single user system it's not needed03:37
milo__aahh ok. Thanks once again.03:38
geniiahmad_: Ah. If the command-line doesn't work I doubt any gui one will. Some issue with dynamips and telnetting, likely03:38
ahmad_genii: i guess so, on fedora it works fine .. and i hate to rebot to windows just for dynamips03:39
coreymanI am installing an application, and it says it requires 32 bit jre, i have 64 bit.... how do i install the 32 bit? I used sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre03:47
milo___can someone tell me how to join python's channel?03:51
coreyman /join #python ?03:51
kyzylsungurhi all03:51
ahmad_hi03:56
kyzylsungurhow can I join a new network in Konverstaion program? I want to join in #Pardus. May you help me?03:56
kyzylsungurselam ahmad03:56
ahmad_salam kyzylsungur03:56
kyzylsungurI joined =)03:56
coreymankyzylsungur just use /join #Pardus03:56
kyzylsungurSukran ahmad =) thanks =)03:56
ahmad_kyzylsungur: u welcome :)03:57
kyzylsungur=)03:57
draikIf someone can help me with my desktop disconnecting from my desktop, here is my dmesg pastebin:  http://pastebin.com/m1eb103aa03:58
kyzylsungurwhat's that pastebin?03:59
Dragnslcrkyzylsungur- just so you know, that's called a channel, not a network. A network is (more or less) a collection of channels03:59
kyzylsungurI see. I am in kubuntu channel and I'm in Konverstaion network. =)04:00
kyzylsungurhmm04:01
kyzylsungurI am in Ubuntu IRC network04:01
kyzylsungurlol =)04:01
kyzylsungurActually, I'm not good at instant messengers. =)04:01
kyzylsungurIs there a ubuntu channel? #ubuntu04:02
kyzylsunguroki doki. I use Ubuntu 9.04 So I should leave this channel. Bye everybody! =)04:03
XCP9how can I get desktop folder views to be updated automatically in kde4?04:05
draikIf someone can help me with my desktop disconnecting from my desktop, here is my dmesg pastebin:  http://pastebin.com/m1eb103aa04:16
draikIf someone can help me with my desktop disconnecting from the Internet, here is my dmesg pastebin:  http://pastebin.com/m1eb103aa04:16
sparrHow can X be in a mode my monitor doesn't support when xrandr reports that it is still in my default (working) mode (1280x1024@50)?  This happens most often when launching games, sometimes games I am certain use lower resolutions.  Attempting to do "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr -s 1" from a console results in X crashing.04:18
milo__why can't i watch some videos on facebook? "video unvailable"04:35
milo__i think the problem is with my flash plugin04:36
draikmilo__: Do you have the nonfree plugin?04:36
milo__yes04:36
draikUpdated?04:36
milo__yes04:36
max_How can I installed the kde3.5 remix on my current install?04:37
milo__I posted three videos from youtube that I can watch but i can't watch others videos04:38
milo__it's the same on some other websites...04:38
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max_!kde304:39
ubottuKubuntu 8.04 ships with KDE3 and full support. Jaunty does not include KDE3 but a remix install CD can be obtained at  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty . This is not officially supported. Support, instructions and ways to contribute can be found on the wiki page04:39
draikmilo__: Got a link?04:39
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milo__for one of the websites?04:40
milo__no. forgot them04:40
DaskreeCHHello04:41
DaskreeCH Is eem to have No icons04:41
DaskreeCH or pictures04:41
DaskreeCH of anykind Anyone have any ideas?04:41
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draikIf someone can help me with my desktop disconnecting from the Internet, here is my dmesg pastebin:  http://pastebin.com/m1eb103aa04:44
SerpardumI"m too newb to kubuntu tfor either of those04:45
draikDaskreeCH: What do you have in its place?04:46
DaskreeCHdraik: Nothing04:47
draikDaskreeCH: Not even a page image with a question mark?04:47
DaskreeCHDragnslcr: Nope hold on04:48
draikDragnslcr: That was meant for me :)04:49
DaskreeCHdraik: http://imagebin.ca/view/Mrg5Xbzp.html04:50
draikDaskreeCH: Looking...04:51
DaskreeCHDragnslcr: Apologies :)04:52
draikDaskreeCH: Weird. When the bottom panel took a dump, I just rebooted and it was all back. As for the Folder Viewer widget, this seems to root deeper than a reboot. No recent updates that may have caused this?04:52
alexshenoycan somebody help me set up udb support in jaunty04:52
alexshenoyusb* for virtualbox04:53
draikalexshenoy: Get the deb from virtualbox.org. I have USB working for me.04:53
alexshenoyi have the deb from virtualbox.org. its all the devices are grayed out04:53
DaskreeCHdraik: I just installed. Did a minimal install then pulled in the desktop04:54
DaskreeCHcame up with no images.04:54
max_How can i install the kde3 remix on my new 9.04 install?04:54
DaskreeCH!kde304:54
alexshenoyi know that you have to do something to get usb working. b/c thats why i never did04:54
ubottuKubuntu 8.04 ships with KDE3 and full support. Jaunty does not include KDE3 but a remix install CD can be obtained at  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty . This is not officially supported. Support, instructions and ways to contribute can be found on the wiki page04:54
DaskreeCHdraik: None of the buttons The Login manager nothing has any icons04:55
draikalexshenoy: Best of my knowledge, "it just works" with the deb from the site. You may be thinking of the guest add-ons.04:55
draikDaskreeCH: I wonder if whatever you installed may have caused this. It's quite odd.04:55
alexshenoyim talking about usb support in virtualbox to share usb devices with the client04:55
alexshenoyguest04:55
alexshenoyi have the guest additions installed04:55
max_DaskreeCH: the only thing about instilation on that page are the cd images.04:55
DaskreeCHdraik: I think that I may have missed a KDE-icons package or missed a configure cache04:56
draikalexshenoy: Sorry. I don't know what else to say since the USB just works in my Guest OS.04:56
alexshenoythey just show up?04:57
draikDaskreeCH: That's a possibility04:57
draikalexshenoy: Yes.04:57
alexshenoyhurm04:58
alexshenoyalright. ill see what i can find on the google04:58
alexshenoythanks04:58
Mike_lifeguardHow do you restart X server in kubuntu?04:58
ahmad_ctrl+alt+backspace04:59
p_quarlesahmad_: doesn't work by default in Jaunty04:59
Mike_lifeguardisn't that disabled by default now?04:59
alexshenoydraik: what kind of devices are you using with it04:59
p_quarlesneed to add "dontzap=disabled" to xorg.conf04:59
Mike_lifeguard/etc/something/kdm restart...?04:59
max_How can i install the kde3 remix on my new 9.04 install?04:59
p_quarlesMike_lifeguard: just log out of the session and choose the "restart X" option from the login manager04:59
Mike_lifeguardno, I need the terminal command05:00
DaskreeCHMike_lifeguard: Log out and press alt+E on the login screen or press alt+Sysreq+k05:00
DaskreeCHMike_lifeguard: Ah sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart05:00
Mike_lifeguardfor gnome it is "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" for example05:00
Mike_lifeguardok, kdm - thanks05:00
draikalexshenoy: 2 printers, webcam and my G1 phone.05:00
Mike_lifeguardDaskreeCH: do you happen to know what it'd be for xubuntu?05:00
p_quarlesMike_lifeguard: I think disabling the dontzap extension is probably better to using /etc/init.d/kdm restart just to unfreeze an X session05:01
alexshenoyso its not just storage devices then?05:01
alexshenoyany usb will work05:01
Mike_lifeguardYes, but I'm writing documentation, not actually restarting my X :)05:01
draikalexshenoy: Right.05:01
DaskreeCHMike_lifeguard: gdm05:01
Mike_lifeguardgdm for xubuntu? O-o05:02
DaskreeCHYou have GDM XDM and KDM05:02
alexshenoyb/c im considering an iPhone 3GS and i want to have 7 in a vbox and use that to do updates etc.05:02
Mike_lifeguardah, right, k05:02
DaskreeCHIf you don't have KDM then you have GDM05:02
DaskreeCHNo one uses XDM05:02
Mike_lifeguardgreat, thanks05:03
alexshenoydraik: how do you have your vbox setup05:04
alexshenoylike the machine settings. for usb05:04
draikalexshenoy: Nothing special. It is "as-is" from the installation from the deb package on the virtualbox.org site05:07
alexshenoywhat does it say for filters for you05:07
draik1-sec. Let me check05:07
max_How can i install the kde3 remix on my new 9.04 install?05:07
draikalexshenoy: Filters? Where do you see this?05:08
alexshenoyin the settings on the machine. in the usb "tab"05:08
alexshenoygah! ff really suckjs now05:08
draikalexshenoy: Sorry, I was looking for a Filters section. OK. Which one do you want? Webcam, printer, phone or all?05:09
DaskreeCHdraik: Fixed05:09
alexshenoyhurm. well ive got a g5 and a sansa fuze05:09
draikDaskreeCH: What was it?05:09
alexshenoytry the phone. its probly closest to what i want05:10
DaskreeCHkde-icons-oxygen wasn't installed05:10
draikDaskreeCH: I'm glad you got it resolved. Congrats.05:10
draikalexshenoy: Name: HTC Android Phone [0100]05:10
draikalexshenoy: Vendor ID: 0BB405:11
draikalexshenoy: Product ID: 0C0205:11
draikalexshenoy: Revision: 010005:11
draikalexshenoy: Manufacturer: HTC05:11
draikalexshenoy: Product: Android Phone05:11
draikalexshenoy: Serial No: HT851GZ0188905:12
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draikalexshenoy: Port: (blank)05:12
draikalexshenoy: Remote: No05:12
alexshenoyokay so i have roughly the same thing05:12
alexshenoycan you pastebin your fstab05:12
max_Can someone please tell me how to install KDE 3.5 on a Kubuntu 9.04 install.05:12
alexshenoyi want to see if you have usbfs mounted in there05:12
alexshenoymax_ download the kde3 remix05:13
draikmax_: If someone knows, they will help you out.05:13
draikalexshenoy: http://pastebin.com/f4781a48d05:13
max_alexshenoy: I know there is a way to just install it overtop of an existing install, i just dont remember how.05:13
draikIf someone can help me with my desktop disconnecting from the Internet, here is my dmesg pastebin:  http://pastebin.com/m1eb103aa05:14
alexshenoyalright. im going to reboot and see if i can't figure this out. if not, ill go bug the vbox guy :-)05:16
PhrkOnLsh[meta]: hey bro, you might have to buy me that T91, seems it may only be in Europe ;)05:23
max_How can i view what i have downloading in konqueror?05:23
PhrkOnLshmax_: they show in seperate kio windows, or in kget if you have kget integartion enabled05:24
alexshenoydraik: the good news is i think i got it, b/c when i started vbox my mouse froze and wouldnt do anything05:25
alexshenoylol05:25
draikalexshenoy: I'm not sure that puts you a step ahead, but change is usually good (some of the times)05:25
alexshenoywell when i closed the vbox, i got it back05:26
alexshenoyand now the sansa is showing up in vbox as well05:26
alexshenoyso idk what i did, but i removed the usb filter for the mouse05:26
draikI usually don't have filters set, but that was from my last set of configs where I was just adding everything for the sake of testing.05:27
alexshenoyyay! it works05:27
draikDid you do anything new, alexshenoy?05:27
draikAside from removing the USB filters, that is.05:28
alexshenoydraik: i just set the filters, then i restarted the vm but it didnt work, so i restarted my computer and it did05:28
draikOK.05:28
alexshenoyi should ask what are you running in vbox?05:28
draikXP05:29
draikwith SP3, if that matters05:29
draikI just have to figure out now what is causing my desktop to disconnect from the Internet and router. It just fails for no reason at all.05:31
alexshenoydraik: i hate errors that seem to happen at random. its like, id love to help fix them, but i dont know what causes them05:31
draikMy USB transfer onto my desktop also failed after 250MB05:32
draikIt's weird. This all started around early/mid 8.1005:32
alexshenoyso for the g1, does it mount as a mass storage device, or actually show up as a phone05:32
draikBoth. It mounts as the phone (for the name) but it's a mass storage device05:33
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troghey what is swap space used for?, should it be as big as a dvd if I want to transfer that size?05:36
alexshenoyi just want to know if i plug an iPhone in will iTunes in win7 recognize it05:37
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draiktrog: SWAP is the Windows equivalent of virtual RAM. It should be equal to or 2x your actual RAM05:37
TweakedEhI have ubuntu 8.10 and I was wondering how I would get x-server working05:38
draikTweakedEh: If you're in the GUI, you have x-server working05:38
TweakedEhI'm on a different box right now.05:39
draikWhat's the issue with your x-server? Any error message?05:39
TweakedEhno, I log in on a big terminal window but I don't know how to get X running05:39
troggreat thx draik, makes sense it's 7.2, but only have 2.5 ram installed, mobo capable of 4gig, seems a bit high still05:40
TweakedEhI installed "xserver" and "xserver-xorg" but I don't know if it's right or how to start it.05:41
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draiktrog: You're welcome.05:44
draikTweakedEh: Do you also have a GUI installed?05:44
TweakedEhdraik: No I only installed the xserver stuff.. do I have to install "GUI" ?05:45
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draikIf someone can help me with my desktop disconnecting from the Internet, here is my dmesg pastebin:  http://pastebin.com/m1eb103aa05:53
bibsthaany Xserver guru around?05:54
bibsthahaving trouble with xvfb05:54
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sparrWhen an app changes my X video mode to one my monitor doesn't support, how can I recover?  "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr" reports that it is still in a known-good video mode (my default, 1280x1024@50Hz).  "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr -s 1" from a console results in X crashing.06:04
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max_I just got a new computer, it has a dual core amd processor (the sticker on the laptop says X2) so i'm assuming i need the bit version of kubuntu. So i downloaded that and out it on a disk. But when i put the cd in and booted up to it and tried to install kubuntu, it wouldnt ever load. It just got stuck at a black screen with a cursor in the top left. I thought maybe it just had burned a bad cd, so i downloaded another iso and burnned it to ano06:30
max_ and it did the same thing. So i put in a normal 386 disk, and it installed, but its running extremely slowly. Does anyone know why it would do this?06:30
oobemax_, if you get a boot prompt on the amd64 cd you can try noapic or apcioff06:37
max_What does that do?06:37
noaXessgood morning06:38
noaXesshow do i upgrad the kernel? if i run a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade the kernel upgrades will kept back..06:38
oobesome motherboards wont boot without those kernel options06:39
oobeotherwise you amd dual core may not be 64 bit it could be a sempron06:40
max_It just seems like it would be 64, since it had a little AMD sticker that says 64 on the front. How can i double check just to make sure06:40
myselfanyone know of anything that could integrate a NEWS RSS feed directly into my desktop background? in KDE06:43
myselfi mean any specific widgets to install or w/e06:43
max_oobe: Would installing a 32 bit version on a computer made for 64 make performance exceptionally slow? (like im experiancing now)06:43
myselfi am looking for a good one like that06:43
oobeto tell you the truth i have never been happy with x64 performance06:48
oobei go back to 3206:48
oobei cant explain it06:49
myselfanyone06:53
myselfcan anyone give me any recommendations06:53
oobeis 32 slow or just 6406:53
myself Tecumseh myself xiaket robinr Jadeite max_ solid_liq bastid_raZor hateball blizzz tdn_ stoffel susbwoy ubunturos OxDeadC0de rossco com9 aaroncampbell__ bibstha MarkieMark1 FeasibilityStudy dhq alexshenoy Ahadiel keram linuxwizard romullo JulCes project-emerald Trakis benbloom DerKon inanimate lolipop sparr Dragnslcr asobi Serpardum yrl_ gunni DarkriftX Wicked n410 eka christobal_ chibi-wing nonewmsgs hostel_ |Cueball| m4v n07:00
myself0u nturner_ mtl_templar07:00
OxDeadC0de....07:01
bastid_raZormyself; yeah i can07:01
myselfokay :)07:01
romullowtf07:01
DarkriftXerm, thats rude as hell07:01
hateball...07:01
xiaket....07:01
ubunturosI expected a 'wt...'07:01
bastid_raZormyself; stop being a dumbass and google.. don't do what you did07:01
DarkriftXi wouldnt answer even if i knew the answer07:01
hateball@lart myself07:01
myselfoh no i made you look at your chat screen, its the end of the world07:01
DarkriftXnor would i care enough to go read your question after that07:02
ubunturosmyself: it can be difficult not to find an answer as quickly you want, but take it easy.07:02
bastid_raZormyself; yeah.. you did. i was busy doing other things. you are less important07:02
ubunturosmyself: to answer your question, I don't use KDE4 or 4.x so can't say.07:02
MarkieMark1!anybody > myself07:02
ubottumyself, please see my private message07:02
sparrmyself: goodbye07:03
Ahadielmyself, ...........07:04
myself>:)07:04
sparrmyself: welcome to not getting an answer for the foreseeable future07:04
bazhang!ops | myself spamming07:05
ubottumyself spamming: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, tsimpson, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, genii, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild, Pici or jussi01!07:05
DarkriftXwow, thats almost as bad as what he did07:05
sparrnot really07:05
DarkriftXspamming the ops to tell them taht someone else was spamming07:05
sparrit's a trigger built into the official channel bot, specifically for pinging the ops07:06
DarkriftXyeah, i know07:06
sparrI know that if I was an op here, I would have a different (more noticable) alert on that than on a normal nick highlight07:06
DarkriftXand i know its for a purpose, but still.... if ppl would realize the world wasnt put here for them things would be easier07:06
* DarkriftX momentarily ponders spamming an away message before he goes to bed to put a cherry on top07:07
noaXesshow do i upgrad the kernel? if i run a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade the kernel upgrades will kept back..07:12
sparrnoaXess: un-keptback them?07:14
noaXesssparr: how?07:14
sparrit involves dpkg --set-selections07:14
sparri dont remember the details07:15
bibsthai have iptables forwarding network packets for internet sharing07:20
bibsthawhat tool can i use to monitor the bandwidth of individual hosts?07:20
adam_I just tried to activate proprietary drivers for Nvidia.  And nothing happend.07:20
adam_It's still not activated...why not?07:21
bazhangbibstha, monitor and/or shape? try trickle07:21
bastid_raZoradam_; have you restarted X ?07:21
bibsthabazhang, thanks07:21
adam_bastid_raZor: No.07:21
adam_Should I?07:21
bastid_raZoryes07:22
adam_Why doesn't CTRL ALT and backspace restart X?07:22
adam_How do I restart X otherwise?07:22
bazhang!dontzap07:22
ubottuTo re-enable the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace combination that restarts your X server, you can install the "dontzap" package and use the command « sudo dontzap --disable ». The combination Alt+SysRq+K can also be used to obtain a similar effect.07:22
bibsthabazhang, thats for local applications right?07:23
bazhang!info trickle | bibstha07:23
ubottubibstha: trickle (source: trickle): user-space bandwidth shaper. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.07-5 (jaunty), package size 36 kB, installed size 172 kB07:23
bibsthabazhang, i was looking for sth that would display the bandwidth of individual hosts that are being NATted..07:23
adam_Bah, what's the command in terminal?07:23
bastid_raZorsudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart07:24
bazhangbibstha, not sure, let me websearch07:24
bazhanghttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu-users.html bibstha07:27
bibsthabazhang, was looking for it. testing etherape right now07:28
bazhangbibstha, good luck :)07:28
adam_You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.07:35
adam_What is this?07:35
oobesimple instructions to follow07:41
oobeit is saying you are not using nvidia drivers07:41
oobethen it goes on to explain a fullproof way to go ahead and use them07:41
adam_oobe: I've tried to activate ti won't activate.07:42
oobeadam_, what video card do you have07:46
adam_I'll Be back..07:47
adam_It may be fixed.07:47
oobegod only knows07:47
zoisshi guys. does anyone work with texlive + pstricks in kubuntu?07:49
noaXessdoes anybody have a hint to upgrade the kernel? with apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade kernel upgrades are kept back07:51
ahmad_noaXess, sudo apt-get upgrade kernel07:53
oobesudo aptitude  full-upgrade07:53
bazhangahmad_, that wont do anything07:53
oobenoaXess, sudo aptitude  full-upgrade07:53
oobe will work07:53
noaXessoobe:07:54
noaXessok07:54
oobeas apose to above mentioned things not working07:54
ahmad_bazhang, why ?07:54
bazhangahmad_, its a nonsense command that's why07:54
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digdeepI have tried: sudo aptitude  full-upgrade --> linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic are kept back in my case07:58
noaXessok. i have run sudo aptitude full-upgrade.. and now follwoing packages are removed and now it woll downgrade the kernel linux-headers-generic [2.6.28.12.16 (now) -> 2.6.28.11.15 (jaunty)]??? why?08:23
noaXessthe three packages that are removed are: linux-generic, linux-image, linux-image-generic08:23
noaXessany idea? trus aptitude and go on or what?08:23
noaXess.. trust..08:23
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oobemaybe you shouldnt bother noaXess every time i upgrade a kernel i need to build new drivers for things if everything is already working ok no need to fix it08:29
oobehaving said all of that aptitude should give you multiple choices with Y N choices as far as package upgrades08:30
bazhangw00t08:30
Assurbanipalhi guys, i am using kubuntu 9,04 64 bit and face problems with some applications causing high cpu usage.can someone help me out?08:34
noaXesshow do i install the right linux-headers for my running kernel? something with uname -r?08:34
adam_Ok, I can't get the drivers for the nvidia 6500 installed.08:35
adam_OR rather, using hardware drivers.08:35
adam_It never says "Activated"08:35
adam_What can I do?08:35
oobeadam_, "sudo apt-get install  nvidia-173-kernel-source && sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig && sudo nvidia-xconfig && sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart "  should do it of course do not use the quoute marks08:38
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Assurbanipalhi guys, i am using kubuntu 9,04 64 bit and face problems with some applications causing high cpu usage.can someone help me out?08:39
adam_oobe: I stated that.08:42
adam_But, it left from GUI to text only.08:42
adam_And stoped.08:42
adam_And, I can't CTRL ALT F7 back to Gui08:43
oobeyou mean you tried using that string in a console08:43
oobeyou need to login via tty and restart x08:43
adam_How do I do that?08:44
adam_Yes.08:44
adam_Just log in and go ctrl alt F1?08:44
oobeyea08:44
oobethen sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop08:45
oobethen sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start08:45
oobelsmod | grep nv should show the nvidia driver08:45
oobeor you can always try rebooting08:45
adam_Ok, now, can I ctrl alt F1 right now?08:46
adam_And could you re-post that big long line you gave me.08:46
oobeyea08:46
oobeif you want08:46
oobeadam_, "sudo apt-get install  nvidia-173-kernel-source && sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig && sudo nvidia-xconfig && sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart "  should do it of course do not use the quoute marks08:46
oobeyou can also try installing envyng08:47
adam_Hold on please, lemme try this :)08:47
adam_Thanks for the help :)08:47
oobeok08:47
oobewell see08:47
adam_I just realized I can't copy paste ther can I?08:47
jussi01adam_: shift+insert to copy into konsole08:49
adam_It's tty?08:51
jussi01adam_: ctrl+shift+v ?08:51
adam_Nope, I guess I ahve to type it out o.O08:52
Assurbanipalhi guys, i am using kubuntu 9,04 64 bit and face problems with some applications causing high cpu usage.can someone help me out?08:55
oobeAssurbanipal, run top and see what the process names are that are using all the CPU then post back here or search google09:04
oobei know that flash plugin and firefox tend to go a bit overboard in X6409:05
adam_oobe: It didn't work09:05
Assurbanipaloobe: i have tried that but can't get to a conclusion. t mostly hapen's in firefox and python09:05
oobedid you try rebooting09:05
adam_oobe: No.09:06
adam_I restarted x09:06
oobeadam_, try rebooting if that doesnt work install envyng from a tty then run envyng -t09:06
adam_what do I do to install envyg?09:07
oobesudo apt-get install envyng-qt09:07
oobeit is a nice program that downloads install your nvidia drivers09:07
oobethen run nvidia-xconfig again09:07
ashishhi al09:12
oobeAssurbanipal, sorry i cant help you09:13
oobewho is al09:13
AdolaOk, I did that stuff, what now?09:15
oobeAdola, you ran envyng -t09:15
AdolaSorry, no09:15
oobebut you installed envy09:16
AdolaIt said headers for my kernels are missing.09:17
AdolaSo drivers couldn't be installed.09:17
Adolaoobe?09:18
oobeok do this sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`09:18
AdolaCan I do this in terminal?09:18
oobeyes09:18
oobeif you cant copy and paste it09:18
oobethen make sure you get the back ticks right09:18
oobe` should be the key next to 109:19
oobeon your keyboard09:19
Adolaoobe I sent you the readout.09:20
Adolain a PM09:20
tsimpsonbetter to use $() rather than ``09:21
oobeok that should of worked you will have to look for the package manually by typing this aptitude search linux-headers | grep `uname -r`09:22
oobeor aptitude search linux-headers | grep 2.6.27-709:23
AdolaThat command doesn't pull anything up :/09:24
AdolaThis is so frustrating, I don't know how to find th epackage manually.....09:26
oobetry adept09:28
AdolaAnd I'm looking for "header files"?09:29
ahmad-does Kmail support exchange2003 ?09:36
Adolaoobe: I can't find any of these that I don't already have.09:37
AdolaMy version is 2.6.27-7-generic...And there are no headerfiles for that to be installed.09:38
tsimpson!info linux-headers-2.6.27-7-generic intrepid09:40
ubottulinux-headers-2.6.27-7-generic (source: linux): Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.27 on x86/x86_64. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.27-7.16 (intrepid), package size 606 kB, installed size 7432 kB09:40
tsimpsonAdola: it does exist, make sure your repositories are enabled09:40
AdolaUm, which ones?09:40
tsimpsonthe main ones09:41
max_!nvidia09:41
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:41
Adolatsimpson: I've got all of the repos enabled.09:42
AdolaI don't have a 2.6.27-7-generic header files.09:43
tsimpsonAdola: what does "lsb_release -sc" output?09:43
Adolajaunty09:44
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tsimpsonAdola: then you are running a very old kernel, 2.6.28-11-generic is the latest currently09:45
AdolaHow do I get the most recent?09:45
AdolaI really need these video drivers to work.09:45
tsimpsoninstall the "linux-generic" package09:46
tsimpsonthen install linux-headers-generic09:47
AdolaOk....In Synaptic it says installed is 2.6.28.11.1509:48
AdolaThis si so confusing.09:48
AdolaIt's saying in synaptic that i have that version isntalled.09:48
tsimpsonthat's just the version of the meta-package, it means 2.6.28-1109:49
AdolaBut, I'm saying, it says it's installed.09:49
tsimpsonso then you'll need to reboot into it09:49
tsimpsonyou're running an old kernel, make sure you select the newer one from grub09:50
AdolaWait, how do I select the newer one?09:50
tsimpsonwhen grub is loading, press escape to bring up the grub menu09:50
tsimpsonthere you can choose which kernel to boot into09:50
AdolaOk, BRB :)09:51
AdolaThat didn't work.09:56
AdolaCan't I change what kernel I boot into here?09:56
AdolaLike, in terminal?09:56
tsimpsonAdola: what exactly didn't work?09:57
Adolatsimpson: pressing escape at grub to choose what kernel.09:58
AdolaI couldn't find where to change kernels.09:58
AdolaANd nothing appeard when I pressed "esc"09:58
tsimpsonAdola: ok, from System Settings -> Advanced choose "GRUB Editor"10:00
Adolatsimpson: Ok.10:01
tsimpsonfrom there you should be able to choose the default entry to boot10:01
AdolaYes.10:01
AdolaIts' what I always boot from.10:01
tsimpsonmake sure it's the 2.6.28-11-generic entry, then make sure that "uname -r" shows "2.6.28-11-generic"10:02
AdolaUm, I can't change it...10:03
AdolaIt just says "Kubuntu 8.10 auto magic"10:03
tsimpsonit should have a radio-button to the right to select the default10:03
Adolayes, I think I'm figuring it out.10:04
AdolaI'm adding something to it.10:04
Adola2.6.28-11-generic10:04
AdolaIs that the one I want?10:04
AdolaI'm adding an entry called Kubuntu 9.04 and choosing that as the kernel10:05
tsimpsonyes10:05
AdolaAbi, config, initrd?  Which one>?10:06
Adolavmlinuz?10:06
Adolatsimpson:10:07
tsimpsonhave a look at the other entry and just change "2.6.27-7-generic" to "2.6.28-11-generic"10:07
tsimpsonwhen it asks for the kernel filename choose "/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-generic", for the initrd: "/boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-11-generic"10:10
AdolaBRB :)10:11
tsimpsonand make sure you set the "Root UUID" and "quiet" options for the kernel10:11
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AdolaIt worked everyone :)10:29
AdolaIt worked!10:29
oobeAdola, yay10:38
AdolaThanks so much guys :)10:38
oobeno worries im guessing you upgraded from 8.10 or somthing10:39
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kuruminbom dia a todos12:01
bazhang!br12:03
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.12:03
kuruminalguem na sala???12:07
bazhangkurumin, /join #ubuntu-br12:07
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drcodehi all12:11
drcodehi all12:11
bazhanghi12:11
drcodehow can I load script at ent of boot?12:11
drcodeI try to use /etc/rc5.d/S99local12:11
drcodewithout lack12:11
RurouniJonesis there  a small kde app for mounting iso?12:17
RurouniJonesiso files rather12:17
bazhangRurouniJones, iso? is a video iso, a distro iso, or something different12:19
RurouniJonesas in a normal ISO 9660 compatible CD ISO file12:20
RurouniJonesI am fed up of always having to drop to the command line but the only kde gui app I could find looks to be an abandoned iso mounting script12:20
Kjaras_can any one help me ???? i cant read the text in the servers at css12:21
bazhangvideo or other RurouniJones12:21
RurouniJonesAn old game I want to try running in wine.12:21
* RurouniJones waits for someone to scream "PIRACY"12:22
RurouniJonesCommand line it is then.12:25
* RurouniJones adds a iso mounting plasmoid to the TODO list12:25
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corigoAny suggestions on how to easily roll back to 8.04 without loosing my personal settings? Esp. for Opera12:43
bazhangcorigo, do you have a separate /home partition ?12:43
corigobazhang: I do and more besides12:44
bazhangcorigo, should be safe then12:44
bazhangalways good to have backups though, just in case :)12:44
corigoboot, root, usr, var, srv, and home partitions12:45
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corigobazhang: so you are saying just install over the existing system?12:47
mkargar__hello12:47
bazhangcorigo, that was the point of having a separate home was it not?12:47
bazhanghi12:47
SandGorgonguys, does a 64-bit kubuntu perform better than a 32 bit one, on a core2 duo ?12:49
mkargar__i installed kubuntu 9.04 on AMD Dual Core!but,my system very very hanging..!what's problem?12:49
bazhangSandGorgon, how much ram do you have12:49
SandGorgon2 gb12:49
bazhangnot noticeable I would surmise12:50
mkargar__SandGorgon:64bit!i tested on Dual Core AMD!it's very very hanging...!12:51
mkargar__i installed kubuntu 9.04 on AMD Dual Core!but,my system very very hanging..!what's problem?12:52
BluesKajG'Day all13:15
mark___morning13:15
* BluesKaj goes for coffee13:16
vbgunzinux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic13:28
vbgunzanyone know why those packages keep being held back? apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't get them :/13:28
vbgunzI think I got it13:30
noaXess1what's another way to upgrade the kernel? it will be blocked over KPackageKit13:31
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BluesKajnoaXess, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade13:38
khaije1can i share a /boot between two linux distro's ?13:40
BluesKajyup13:41
AndyBerlinhi!13:43
AndyBerlinI had wifi on my laptop, then I ran the latest update and now wifi is gone13:43
AndyBerlinI can only connect via eth13:44
AndyBerlinwhat can i do to regain my wifi?13:44
AndyBerlinkubuntu intrepid ibex13:48
BluesKajAndyBerlin, open add widgets and look for network management, add it , then right click on the icon and set up wifi from there13:48
BluesKajoops , dunno if that will work on intrepid13:49
AndyBerlinI have this green earth thing, I think, that's the widget you're talking about13:49
AndyBerlinhave it in another language version though, so I'm not really sure13:50
AndyBerlinthere used to be displayed  all the wireless networks13:50
BluesKajyeah, that's networkmanager , right click on it to set up wifi13:50
AndyBerlinthe thing itself is still there and I can edit the previously saved wifi networks, but I cannot add a new one anymore as i seems not to find the hardware support anymore13:51
AndyBerlinright click->new connection only displays eth013:51
AndyBerlinbefore that it had always shown: eth0 and wirelesss13:51
BluesKajyou have to disconnect the eth0 , then try again13:52
BluesKajin the wireless options13:53
AndyBerlinBluesKaj, then there is NOTHING where I can connect13:55
AndyBerlinyesterday I was connected by wifi and today I tried and it did not work so I had to plug in the cable13:55
BluesKajdo you have a wireless option showing in manage connections ?13:56
AndyBerlinin edit connection I have a hole lot of saved wireless connenctions13:57
AndyBerlinwhen I hit new connection there, up on the left I have wireed and wireless.13:58
AndyBerlinbut wireless finds none, though there are at least five ones currently available.13:58
AndyBerlinonly cliking on the icon in the panel and then on "new connection" only gives eth013:59
AndyBerlinso i guess, it has somehow switched off my wireless card13:59
BluesKajAndyBerlin, have you rebooted since the update ?13:59
AndyBerlinyes13:59
AndyBerlinI know originially the wireless card was not supported by kubuntu and I had to activate backports in order to make it work13:59
AndyBerlinit has always worked fien since then14:00
AndyBerlinbut after update (sudo apt-get update upgrade dist-upgrade autoremove) it stopped working and autoremove said it removed two backports things, but I though it didd so due to them not being needed anymore as update installed, so I thought, newer versions14:01
AndyBerlin:-(14:03
BluesKajAndyBerlin, I had some wifi probs on jaunty, so i reinstalled networkmanager , even tho it was depracated for that version it still worked14:03
AndyBerlinso I remove it from panel and simply add it to panel again?14:04
BluesKajremove and then reinstall14:04
AndyBerlinWill try that14:04
BluesKajsudo apt-get remove14:05
noaXessBluesKaj: with sudo aptitude safe-upgrade they will also kept back: The following packages have been kept back: linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic14:05
BluesKajnoaXess, then those generics have obviously been replaced14:06
noaXessBluesKaj: what now?14:07
noaXessremove them?14:07
BluesKajno, they aren't installed14:07
AndyBerlinyes, I think it's been them that have been removed14:07
AndyBerlinok, I removed and installed it14:08
BluesKajAndyBerlin, ok now see if it scans for available networks14:09
AndyBerlin'remove' said it was not installed, 'install' installed it and 'knetworkmanager' started it. it's the same green earth I had before14:09
AndyBerlinand still no wifi. devices: eth014:09
BluesKajis eth0 still connected ?14:09
AndyBerlinyes14:10
AndyBerlinotherwise I wouldn't be in here14:10
AndyBerlinbut I often had both connected at the same time14:10
BluesKajdisconnect it , otherwise the wifi won't scan14:10
Paraselene__Does Jaunty not support taskbar reordering? Can't seem to find an option to toggle it on14:13
jussi01Paraselene__: task bar reordering? ie. alphabetical or something else?14:14
Paraselene__Drag/drop reordering14:14
khaije1thx BluesKaj, i'm trying to carve up a system with vista so i can get linux on here14:15
jussi01Paraselene__: Not that Ive seen, but I could be incorrect14:15
AndySpaindid not work14:15
jussi01AndySpain: which wifi card do you have?14:16
AndySpainpulling gthe plug only cut off internet connection, but still only the eth0 device was found14:16
AndySpainatheros14:16
AndySpaindunno exactly which model of it14:16
khaije1hopefully i can get multiple distros on a single /boot and lvm partition without breaking windows (which is always a task)14:16
myselfhey does anyone know a good website or repository that has widgets and stuff for Kubuntu? Im looking for something that does a desktop integrated news RSS feed14:18
AndySpainjussi01:  lspci: 08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)14:19
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BluesKajmyself, there's an RSS widget available14:22
myselfi want something transparent that will like integrate into my desktop background14:22
BluesKajjust lookin the widgets list14:22
carolijawhat is this Eeebuntu ?14:23
carolijasome new distro for notebook14:23
carolijai was wondering what's wrong with kubuntu if they make Eeebuntu14:24
bazhangcarolija, you mean unr?14:25
AndySpainanybody can help me recover my wifi?14:26
carolijabazhang, I did not understand the word "unr" ?14:26
bazhangubuntu-netbook-remix14:27
carolijayes14:28
bazhangnot eeebuntu14:28
carolijai read something and i am confused so  ill continue to read lol14:29
bazhangeeebuntu is something entirely different carolija14:30
carolijayes ?14:30
carolijathat is what i read now14:30
bazhangyes.14:30
carolijaits something new ?14:30
bazhangUNR?14:31
carolijaEeebuntu14:31
carolijathat oe14:31
carolijaone*14:31
bazhangnot really no14:31
carolijahmm14:31
carolijaok, so definitely have to read this one14:31
carolijabazhang, thank you anyway14:32
bazhangbetter to use the UNR honestly14:32
carolijano i dont want to use it14:32
carolijait's just reading14:32
carolijaI amready use kubuntu14:32
carolijaand I am good with it14:32
carolijaI mean I have no problems14:32
carolijaalready*14:32
bazhangokay14:32
vbgunzhow do I get the printer config system setting applet?14:38
AndySpainok, will check this later, gotta go now14:38
AndySpainbye14:38
sobersabrehi.14:44
sobersabreI'm on ubuntu 8.04, I'd like to try kde 4.2.4 without upgrading to jaunty.14:44
sobersabreare there 8.04 backport repositories for 4.2.4 ?14:46
dazjorzHey14:46
sobersabreI mean KDE 4.2.*14:46
dazjorzI don't know where exactly this should be reported, maybe it should be #ubuntu+1, but I thought I'd drop a note: I have 'klash' installed, but when I run 'klash' on the terminal, it says I should install the package 'klash' (I tried it because I thought gnash didn't play to pulseaudio and padsp didn't help)14:47
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sobersabreis there a hardy dedicated channel ?14:51
dazjorz(at least I got the sound problem: for some reason, sound was muted etc etc)14:51
dazjorzin pulse, it was both muted and volume was too low although it didn't *seem* to low at 40%14:51
Dragnslcrsobersabre- I highly doubt it. There might be KDE 4.1 packages for 8.04, but I'm not sure. The bot says that the version available is 4.0.314:52
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sobersabreDragnslcr: why is there no backport ?14:54
sobersabre8.04 is supposed to be "long term support".14:54
DragnslcrNot for Kubuntu it isn't14:54
sobersabre4.0 KDE is supposed to be unstable.14:54
sobersabreDragnslcr: are there any kubuntu long term support releases ?14:55
DragnslcrNot since 6.0614:55
ForgeAusI don't recommend 4.0.x14:55
ForgeAuskde4.2 or better if your going to use kde4 at all14:55
sobersabreForgeAus: I don't recommend it to myself myself14:55
sobersabre:)14:55
ForgeAuseither that or 3.5.10 or so...14:56
DragnslcrAnd if it were long-term support, you probably wouldn't find KDE 4.2. The point of long-term support is that it doesn't change significantly during its lifetime14:56
sobersabreI thought KDE 4.2 is supposed to be quite stable.14:56
sobersabreand for long.14:56
myselfhow do i make a certain program start up w/ startup in kubuntu14:57
sobersabreanyway, so ... is it possible to generate debs for 8.04 myself ?14:57
sobersabremyself: is it a service or a gui application ?14:57
myselfits Transmission14:57
myselftorrent program14:57
sobersabreI think kde has "autostart" in help.14:58
sobersabreso, kubuntu too should have it.14:58
BluesKajmyself, your nick is confusing the situation , try another one pls14:58
myselfwheres help14:58
sobersabremyself: did you open help and found nothing ?14:58
myselfthis is my nick!! i am myself! this is me14:58
sobersabrewhat about myself. am I myself ?14:58
BluesKajwhat if we all did that , then what , myself ?14:59
sobersabreanyway.... myself help should be in the main menu.14:59
myselfokay thank you15:00
myself:)15:00
sobersabreor in konqueror, or in the system settings...15:01
sobersabreguys, does 4.2 source have debian folder so I could generate ubuntu packages out of it with dpkg-buildpackage ?15:01
myselfwhy do i not have a search index for KDE help center and its missing or something?15:02
myselfi mean w/ r/ t/ searching through hlp15:02
myselfhelp15:02
BluesKajhelp yourself15:03
myselfyeah it says my um help files are missing or something?15:03
myselfcan i reinstall kubuntu help?15:03
myselfhmm or it just took a little bit to find it, or something, wierd15:05
sobersabreif it's not available, I don't think it's installed.15:06
sobersabreso install it.15:06
myselfhow do i install it15:06
myselfmy problem is im trying to do an autostart15:06
myselfwell, it seems the rest of the stuff is there, but the autostart page is not availabe15:07
myself*available15:07
myselfis there a way to help install a help index? that will help me with autostart? lol15:07
sobersabremyself: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=kde4+autostart&l=115:09
myself>:)15:09
Gentixfolks! I have installed grub during installation on the wrong drive. Can some one help me removing it and putting it on the correct drive??15:12
BluesKaj!grub15:14
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto15:14
ForgeAusI think I'll upgrade to Grub2... its a little more complex tho looking at it15:18
Gentixhrmmm. I'm afraid I have to get myself a windows cd15:19
GentixI'll go and see what I can do. Thanx for trying to help!15:19
myselfi want to delete a color theme in Color Settings in Apperance - System Settings, but it says I don't have permission, and when i kdesudo it I naturally get the root settings which don't even have the color theme i want to delete15:27
vellutohal15:31
ngirardHi all. I'm desperately trying to make ekiga 2.9.90 work on kubuntu 8.04. All I get is the same error message : "Ekiga n'a pas réussi la configuration automatique des paramètres de votre réseau."15:39
ngirardI'm behind an adsl router ; on my machine the firewall is off15:39
ngirardI *think* I have the port forwarding correctly configured, though i'd be glad to check it out with someone here15:39
ngirardHere's the result of the command "iptables -t nat --list" on the adsl router:15:39
ngirardhttp://pastebin.com/d7d08f64415:39
ngirardWhat do you think ?15:39
myselfanyone know where i can get a good widget  or know of a good widget for kubuntu, an RSS news thingie for the desktop, the one they have w / the package isnt good15:43
bazhangkde-look.org myself15:43
myselfis there anything else, i looked there and they didnt have ones i liked, ,       :(15:44
myselfi want deb packages too15:47
myselfor something15:47
myselfis there not a repository15:47
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Spyder_Snyperwow...  lots of people here...15:58
Spyder_Snyperanyone here good with networking?15:59
BluesKajaha , google chrome for Linux ! http://dev.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel16:00
Kruxerhow can i install QtGlobal package?16:00
Spyder_Snyperhello???16:03
Spyder_Snyperthen again, it IS still kinda early...  maybe not everyone is up yet...16:03
myselfis there anywhere i can get like a deb package for an RSS desktop widget16:04
myselfi love you16:08
solid_liq!ping16:10
ubottuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore16:10
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viable-tadesse_how can I chagne my buffer size in gtkterm :)16:16
Paulo39hi ppl. i have ubuntu 9.04 with Gnome. But i add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main to my /etc/apt/sources.list because i want to have my amarok upgraded. my question is where do i get the public key for this repo?16:16
ubuntuhello16:21
ubuntudoes anyone know how to install a windows program in kubuntu?16:21
ubuntuwhat about win tools_16:21
|MaSa69|ubuntu try wine16:24
bazhanghe quit16:26
SandGorgonanybody using 64-bit (k)ubuntu, have any idea about Firefox+flash support?16:32
agowI have. all fine! Mediubuntu using. =)16:35
tomsdale_Does anyone know where the applications in KDE get their DNS server from?16:42
tomsdale_I'm trying to override this with my own dns server but they always pick the DHCP assigned also if I override /etc/resolv.conf16:42
cysn0rkshould the kubuntu ppa be used on a productive system?16:44
Dragnslcrcysn0rk- if you mean production system, probably not, though it depends on exactly what you're trying to install from a PPA16:45
cysn0rkif i add the kubuntu ppa to my sources he offers me 82 updates16:46
jussi01cysn0rk: no.16:51
cysn0rkso the kubuntu ppa isn't just about bugfixes?16:53
cysn0rki'm talking about 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main' btw16:53
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DrHalanhey, is it stil common to have freezes in kde desktop effect even if compiz works under gnome?17:14
MamarokDrHalan: DesktopEffects != Compiz...17:16
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codeguru!ping17:17
ubottuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore17:17
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tomsdalewhy does firefox or kde in general not take into account entries in the /etc/hosts for name resolution.17:25
commander_does anyone know how to switch virtual desktops or can i use compiz fusion settings on kubuntu17:25
christian_hello@all17:25
Mamarokcommander_: check Desktop Effects17:26
DrHalanMamarok: i know but because of that i think uits not releated to the graphics drivers17:27
christian_got an installation problem with java file, it quitted abrubtly the installation as i closed console window and i can't run it again: "Unable to accsess"; any suggestions?17:27
MamarokDrHalan: which KDE version are you using?17:28
commander_ i did that. but say if i want to shift Quassel over to desktop 2 or 3 and every time i do that it put me back on desktop 1. i disabled the all effects that come with it17:28
OutoLumoi have a weird problem with kmail: in a certain mail account I cannot reply to mail.17:28
mkargarhow to setting ADSL connections in the plasma-widget-network-manager?17:28
DrHalanMamarok: its kubuntu 9.4 so it should be 4.2 afaik17:29
MamarokDrHalan: well, there is 4.2.2 originally, but there have been two updates with bugfixes17:29
DrHalanwhatever i swtiched desktop effects off17:29
DrHalanbut the second thing is that kpackagekit doesn't list any packages but synaptic does...17:29
MamarokDrHalan: you can use Synaptic if you prefer, as you have it installed already17:30
DrHalanMamarok: its just that i didn't do a fresh install but installed kubuntu-desktop afterwards17:31
mkargarhow to setting ADSL connections in the plasma-widget-network-manager?17:31
DrHalanbut i want to get rid of the gnoem packages now17:31
MamarokDrHalan: that doesn't matter, but make sure you have all KDE packages, as Kubuntu-desktop only gives you the basics17:32
christian_got an installation problem with java file: i startet routine with konsole, but it quitted abrubtly the installation as i closed konsole window and i can't run it again: "Unable to accsess"; any suggestions?17:32
MamarokDrHalan: do you have space restrictions in your / partition?17:33
DrHalanMamarok: nah not really17:34
MamarokDrHalan: leave Gnome then, you do not have to remove it to use KDE correctly17:34
rizzuhI'm thinking of installing Kubuntu over Ubuntu, but some people mostly on the Internet, and a very good friend with loads of Linux experience say that it's pretty unstable, with frequent crashes. Anyone else having problems like this?17:34
DrHalani know but it clutters the menu with unneeded apps17:34
rizzuhDrHalan, http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde17:35
DrHalanrizzuh: i personally prefer gnome mainly because of stability. in my eyes kde is easier to use. thats why i installed it on my lil brothers machine17:35
rizzuhActually I feel like Gnome is too idiot-friendly and KDE being for the people who like more flexibility.17:36
Mamarokrizzuh: KDE 4.2 is pretty stable, and no crashes one couldn't solve17:36
Mamarokok, off for some time, bbl17:37
mkargarhow to setting ADSL connections in the plasma-widget-network-manager?please help me...!!17:38
mkargarhow to setting ADSL connections in the plasma-widget-network-manager?please help me...!!17:45
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inferno_VFXHey can anyone help me write a shell script?17:57
commander_i use to bitch about kubuntu but 9.04 is the shiznit!!! i just need to do a few lil tweaks. can anyone help please?17:58
inferno_VFXcommander what tweaks do you need18:00
inferno_VFXcommander: what tweaks do you need help with18:07
inferno_VFXis anyone available to help me with a shell script?18:08
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shadeslayerhi,every torrent manager i try either crashes or fails to write to my HD citing flush fails etc. help!18:25
shadeslayerall torrent managers had GUI...no CLI18:26
mandingoceohow do i know if my chipset are properly detected ?18:27
inferno_VFXshadeslayer did you try azureus18:27
shadeslayermandingoceo: lspci and lsusb show alot of sysinfo18:28
zoisshey guys. could anyone help me with pstricks installation?18:28
shadeslayerinferno_VFX: azureus,transmission,ktorrent18:28
shadeslayerdeluge18:28
shadeslayerinferno_VFX: ktorrent and azureus give flush fails and the rest crash on their own18:29
inferno_VFXshadeslayer what filesystem are you using18:29
shadeslayerinferno_VFX: im downloading to a NTFS partition18:30
shadeslayershould i move it to ext4??18:30
inferno_VFXshadeslayer NTFS should have a high enough file limit18:31
inferno_VFXshadeslayer i was just making sure it wasnt fat3218:31
shadeslayerinferno_VFX: hmm...and its empty...only 10 GB filled of 170 GB18:32
shadeslayerinferno_VFX: oh ok18:32
inferno_VFXshadeslayer you need to make sure the directory where the files are being saved has the correct permissions set18:32
inferno_VFXI have azureus set to auto completion moving into my samba share folder18:33
inferno_VFXchmod 666 ~/balls/completedTorrentFolder18:33
shadeslayerinferno_VFX: well since i added the lines to fstab manually..maybe thats the problem??18:34
inferno_VFXwhat are your fstab options for that drive18:34
shadeslayerinferno_VFX: uh...i dont remember where my fstab was stored ><18:35
mandingoceoshadeslayer i had unknowns under lspci but updated the pciid list and now everything is seen does that mean the proper drivers are loaded for the chipsets or do i have to do more?18:35
inferno_VFXshadeslayer run sudo kate /etc/fstab18:35
shadeslayermandingoceo: does anything _not_ work??18:35
mandingoceodont think so18:36
iboui have two update stoped by KPackageKit. Why ?18:36
shadeslayerinferno_VFX: http://pastebin.com/f54d62a6018:36
shadeslayermandingoceo: then your good to go :)18:36
ibouupdates are : mplayer-nogui and mencoder18:36
shadeslayeribou: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade18:36
shadeslayerinferno_VFX: its the last line18:37
iboushadeslayer: sweet it works18:37
shadeslayeribou: no problem ;)18:38
ibou:)18:38
* Peace- has made kubuntustudio18:39
shadeslayeribou: just fyi..keep a list of commands such as these in a txt file in your desktop or try and remember them :)18:39
ibouyes i backup my bashhistory18:40
iboushadeslayer: thx18:40
inferno_VFXshadeslayer change it to   /dev/sda7 /media/Data ntfs-3g user,auto,dev,sync,force,rw18:40
ShuraHi there18:40
shadeslayerinferno_VFX: are you _sure_ ??18:40
inferno_VFXshadeslayer yep. save a copy, change it, then sudo "mount -a"18:41
shadeslayerinferno_VFX: okie dokie18:41
inferno_VFXshadeslayer i meant "sudo mount -a" just incase you didnt get that =P18:42
shadeslayerinferno_VFX: of-course :)18:42
shadeslayerlets see now18:43
shadeslayeroh..btw any idea when kde 4.3 beta 2 will be released?? i thought it was going to be released today??18:45
inferno_VFXO.o i am too busy to keep up with that stuff. I only know that you can change your repositories and load Karmic Koala if you want18:47
shadeslayerinferno_VFX: you use vuze right?? whats the GUI like?? blue or white??18:47
shadeslayerinferno_VFX: hehehe18:47
inferno_VFXshadeslayer I do use vuze but I have custom guis everywhere. on plasma and kde and vuze18:48
shadeslayerinferno_VFX: well flush fails again18:48
inferno_VFXshadeslayer what are you trying to download and where18:49
inferno_VFXhow big is the file18:49
shadeslayerinferno_VFX: quite big :)18:49
shadeslayerinferno_VFX: what if i move the file to my home folder??18:50
inferno_VFXshadeslayer, with azureus your .torrent file doesnt matter because azureus will copy it to a temp directory and save the download to another folder. you are most likely experiencing a permissions issue. you need to find out where azureus is trying to download the file18:52
shadeslayerinferno_VFX: oh..should i try chmod 666 ?18:53
inferno_VFXonce you find that folder that its trying to save to. "sudo chmod 666 thatFolder"18:54
* shadeslayer thinks its /tmp18:54
inferno_VFXthe code 666 allows read and write access for everyone and should be used carefully for security reasons.18:55
shadeslayerok..i just told it to move the thing to my home folder...hope it gets sorted18:55
shadeslayerinferno_VFX: ill be careful18:55
inferno_VFXyou should configure azureus to download to a completely new folder. and set that to 66618:56
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inferno_VFXi use /media/docTRSF/completed_torrents18:56
nurijjj18:58
shadeslayerinferno_VFX: ok..19:00
shadeslayerinferno_VFX: i think large files are the problem...small files download just fine19:03
shadeslayerinferno_VFX: so far so good on ext4 :)19:04
shadeslayerill tell it move the file after competion then :)19:06
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shadeslayerinferno_VFX: how do you theme vuze??19:09
inferno_VFXtools>options>interface>colorScheme19:10
shadeslayergot it...thanks :)..btw vuze in windows looks way better :P19:11
theo__how do I disable the graphical bootscreen??19:23
shadeslayertheo__: usplash??19:24
theo__I believe so yes19:24
shadeslayertheo__: open /boot/grub/menu/lst and remove splash from the kernel boot line19:25
theo__I rather see the system messages19:25
theo__ah okay, thanx!19:25
theo__another question19:25
shadeslayertheo__: thats /boot/grub/menu.lst19:25
theo__I do I get the nvidia splash screen back?19:25
shadeslayertheo__: shoot !19:25
theo__hrmm19:26
shadeslayertheo__: that will be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf , set nvidia logo option to true19:26
theo__I'm not such a violent guy ;)19:26
theo__I'll have a look at that one aswell, TOP19:26
shadeslayertop??19:27
theo__dutch expression ;)19:28
shadeslayerah...19:28
theo__one final question.....19:28
shadeslayersure19:28
theo__how do I get mp3 to work in 9.04? I knew how to do it in older versions....19:29
shadeslayertheo__: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras vlc19:29
shadeslayer!medibuntu | theo__ see this too19:30
ubottutheo__ see this too: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org19:30
shadeslayerits tommorow here :)19:31
jared555any ideas why when I installed a package a bunch of dependencies were installed, and when I removed it and tried apt-get autoremove those dependencies were not removed by either command?19:31
shadeslayertheo__: ubuntu-restricted-extras is a package which can help you play mp3's and vlc is a really good video/audio player :)19:32
shadeslayerjared555: maybe they are required by other programmes ?19:32
theo__I use vlc on my mac19:32
theo__works pretty good yeah19:32
shadeslayertheo__: oh...good then :)19:33
jared555shadeslayer: I thought so too but I almost immediately removed it.... I will check on my other system to see if i can replicate the issue, maybe I did install something else19:33
shadeslayerjared555: hehe...i have no other idea on that apart from what i suggested19:34
jared555shadeslayer: , thanks19:34
shadeslayerjared555: no probelm19:34
shadeslayer*problem19:34
OutoLumoWeird - it seems that this bug ISN'T fixed: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18946419:35
OutoLumoDespite the fact that it is sopposed to be fixed in KDE 4.2.419:37
shadeslayerOutoLumo: better ask the devs in #kde19:37
jared555I know with centos you can prioritize repositores, restrict what packages will be retreived from each repositiry, etc. can that be done with kubuntu?19:37
shadeslayerjared555: i havent heard of such a feature till now19:38
shadeslayerjared555: but !google anyways :)19:39
jared555I know it was useful when using third party repositories when you only wanted certain packages or didn't want them overriding things like the kernel, etc.19:39
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jared555well I think it is possible but it doesn't look like fun lol19:45
OutoLumoOkay, any kubuntu devs here?  it seems that https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189464  is fixed in vanilla KDE, but not kubuntu.19:49
t3rminat0rhi guys, does anyone know anything about squid19:52
tonyf12I have a VM running Kubuntu 9.04. My install disc is for 8.10. My internet is quite slow. Is it possible to burn an install disc from an existing installation without redownloading it? (My internet is quite slow)19:53
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jared555how is ubuntu/kubuntu's virtualization compared to centos? I know ubuntu uses kvm and centos is xen.  I only have experience with xen so I could use some info from real world usage (not just benchmarks)20:02
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iphonyhello?20:04
iphonyanyone know if there is something like 'network tool' for kubuntu?20:05
iphonyanyone here????20:08
iphonyhello?20:09
iphonyis there a 'network tools' gnome equivalent for kde?20:10
OutoLumojust a sec20:12
OutoLumoWhat kind of network tools do you mean?20:13
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iphonyhello, outolumo20:18
iphonyyou know like in gnome....ping, netstat, traceroute...etc20:19
OutoLumowell, to be honest, I know those better from console ;)20:19
iphonykonsole, you have to run one at a time....but with 'network tools' everyting is in one place, kind of like in mac20:20
mtuhey all. the "file sharing" control application doesn't appear in the system settings, and it doesn't work to call it from a folder's Properties menu20:20
mtui get asked for my password for running kcmshell4 fileshare, but nothing happens20:21
mtui can manually call kcmshell4 fileshare, but i shouldn't have to do that, right?20:21
iphonymtu, you have to install the samba packaage20:21
mtuiphony: it's installed20:21
Shuraiphony : something like that http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/kNut?content=103729  ?20:22
iphonyshura i doubt it, 'cause i just search for knut in adept and got something different20:24
iphonydoes anyone know if there's something like yast in kubuntu, not system settings20:25
iphonysystem settings barely has any modules for full system configuration20:28
ArmeHi.... I have strange problem with Kubuntu 9.04. I used to use Kubuntu 8.04 and all was OK. But know I see something like this: http://img216.yfrog.com/img216/4113/zrzucik3.png20:28
ArmeHave anybody idea, how to fix it?20:29
iphonydo a clean reinstall20:29
iphonyi like ubuntu, but management and configuration tools are so disorganized, open suse is too slow my 2.4 ghz celeron20:31
OutoLumoiphony,  ksniffer?20:38
iphonyno, i want a gui tool for ping, netsat, whois...all in one place like in mac20:41
OutoLumoiphony, try that knut. It's not in the repos, but you can download the deb from the site.20:43
iphonyok, just saw screenshots and didn't see a 'lookup' tab....you know nslookup, i can't live without that20:47
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shadeslayerjared555: you there??20:56
jared555yes20:57
shadeslayerjared555: was your problem solved??20:57
jared555yeah, just trying to decide between centos+xen or ubuntu server+kvm now20:57
shadeslayerjared555: oh...i got a solution to ;)... run this :  sudo apt-get install deborphan; sudo apt-get --purge remove `deborphan`20:58
shadeslayer*too20:58
jared555shadeslayer: what?20:59
shadeslayerjared555: you wanted to remove unused dependecies right?? that command removes orphaned libraries and other irrelevant stuff21:00
jared555k. thanks21:01
shadeslayerjared555: i didnt quite remember the solution back then21:01
uga|awayuh, one gotta believe that apt got to have better ways to clean cruft, other than installing and uninstalling virtual packages that handle it21:03
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inteliwaspis there a known problem trying to use a 32bit os with a 64 bit quad core pc?21:08
armaganİ21:12
avionixhallo at all21:24
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ubuntuv21:33
ubuntusalam alaikum21:34
harolddongcan I ask questions about beta 2 here?21:37
Unksiharolddong: you mean karmic alpha 2?21:37
DragnslcrIf you mean 9.10, #ubuntu+121:37
harolddongno kde 4.3 beta 2 for kubuntu21:37
DragnslcrYou can try, but there probably aren't many people here using it21:38
iphonydoes knut work on kde 4?21:39
iphonyi can' t seem to be able to install it21:39
togetici can't login using kdm21:40
togeticthe computer just restarts kde and can't login21:40
iphonydoes anyone know how to add more modules for system settings?21:40
iphonygeez, i think these linux progammers can learn a lot from microsoft...SIMPLICITY!21:41
togeticmy tty screens won't respond to simple commands such as cd and ls so i'm thinking it has something to do with my PATH, suggestion21:42
harolddongwell at any rate kopete and lancelot are taking up gobs of cpu with the 4.3 beta 2 packages.  any other beta 2 users having that problem?21:46
JuJuBeeAnybody able to get Quicken Deluze 2009 running in wine?21:59
JuJuBeeOr know of a good alternative that has equivalent features?  I want to connect to banks and download my transactions as I do in Q 2009.21:59
Simon99Has anyone managed to get GMailFS to work in Kubuntu 9.04 ?22:07
Guest82026somehow I borked up my konsole settings, so that the paper, light style no longer works22:07
Guest82026how can I get it back?22:07
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milo_does anyone know how to change a laptop IP address?22:08
Simon99Halbert:  have you tried  Settings > Edit Current Profile > Appearance ?22:10
halberdfrom where simon9922:11
halberdI don't see an edit current profile option in the settings menu of konsole22:11
Simon99Halbert:  Which version of Kubuntu are you using?22:11
halberd8.0422:12
czarekyo yo22:12
halberdkde release 3.5.1022:12
czareki am new in da house22:12
iphonyplease help, if you know about a system configuration tool like yast for kubuntu, let me know22:13
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czarekanyone from poland???22:13
iphonywhat kind of land?22:13
iphonyi know about england but not poland22:14
why_the_hellSo I'm trying to convert a video and I can't find a single video conversion tool in the respositories22:14
why_the_hellI'm having to use ffmpeg -i from the command line22:14
why_the_hellthis is pathetic22:14
Simon99why_the_hell: Have a look at VLC Media Player.22:15
why_the_hellvlc is great for playing videos but can it convert them?22:16
iphonysimon, i need a progam to let me scan from my hp all-in-one printer22:16
Simon99why_the_hell: I have VLC 0.9.922:17
Simon99If you go to Media > Convert/Save, and take it from there.22:17
ceekeyhelp22:18
ceekey o sorry :)22:18
why_the_hellcool, does anyone know of any others?22:18
Simon99iphony: Try SANE/XSANE22:18
why_the_hellalso, why the hell doesn't it show up when you search in kpackageit?22:19
Simon99why_the_hell:  'cause it's crap.22:19
Simon99use synaptic, instead.22:19
Simon99Anyone got GMailFS to work in Kubuntu 9.04?22:20
why_the_hellsynaptic's a little dangerous, I preferred Adept with the categories in the left margin-don't understand why they dropped it22:22
iphonythanx simon, will try it see how it is...i think package managers should include screenshots22:24
iphonyok, now i need a yast like tool for kubuntu22:24
halberdhow can I get scrollback in konsole?22:25
Simon99why_the_hell:  I wasn't aware there's a problem with Synaptic.  I've used it for nearly 3 years.  Also look for "pakagesearch".22:25
halberdis it possible to have konsole scrollback?22:25
Dragnslcr!info skanlite | iphony22:26
ubottuiphony: skanlite (source: skanlite): KDE 4 image scanning application. In component main, is extra. Version 0.3-0ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 1152 kB, installed size 1800 kB22:26
iphonythanx, will try that too...see how things go, any luck with yast like config thinggy?22:27
togeticalright so... still unresolved22:28
togeticrebooting22:29
nomercyciao22:30
iphonyalso, does anyone know if there's way to have kubuntu mark newly installed programs on the start menu?22:36
Simon99Hi all.  Has anyone got GMailFS to work in Kubuntu 9.04? I keep getting stupid errors.22:36
iphony...combine windows simplicity with linux stability and wars wouldn't be fought anymore!22:39
swattohow can DVDs be played on kubuntu please? keep getting error from VLC and it wont play anything22:41
LadyNikonswatto: whats the error.22:42
swattoLadyNikon: VLC is undable to open the MRL22:42
swattounable**22:42
togeticsorry for being impatient earlier, my friend was here and i wanted this computer fixed so i could show him a few things, he's gone now. so i have time, but not much... anyone know what's going on. why isn't ls, cd, apt-get or any commands working, including my window managers22:44
bjb1959everytime I reboot I loose sound on everything except system sounds unless I log out, boot into gnome, log out and boot into kde 4.2.2 any idea why?22:45
swattoLadyNikon: Its ok I solved it, had to install libdvdcss222:52
LadyNikonswatto: awesome22:53
swattoIve got libdvdcss2 installed but just tried playing Bourne DVD and I recieve the following errors: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/122140/23:08
bjb1959everytime I reboot I need to killall pulseaudio to get sound back any idea why?23:09
ign0ramusswatto, did you check the log?23:09
ign0ramusbjb1959, do you have pulseaudio set as your preferred sound 'device'?23:09
ign0ramusswatto, do you also have "libdvdcss2-dev" installed as well?23:11
bjb1959ign0ramus.  no I don't23:11
ign0ramusbjb1959, pulseaudio has a nasty habit of trying to take over the sound system, but kde in general doesn't need it.  of course, if you're running gnome, there may be a problem...23:12
nassratjoin #apache23:12
bjb1959Can I just uninstall pulseaudio?23:13
ign0ramusbjb1959, yes.23:14
shadeslayerbjb1959: sure..theres another alternative out there , but is not recommended23:14
ign0ramusbjb1959, i'm not sure, but afaik, gnome doesn't require it, either.  sound and mixing should still be done through alsa23:14
bjb1959ign0ramus.  is it sudo aptitude --purge pulseaudio?23:16
ign0ramusbjb1959, not sure for aptitude, but you can use "apt-get purge"23:17
bjb1959thanks23:17
ign0ramusnp23:17
ign0ramusbjb1959, i've actually just done the same, as i've been experiencing minor audio issues too (all related to PA)23:18
ign0ramusrestarting X now. brb23:18
ign0ramushmm... i just purged pulseaudio and restarted X, but I still have it listed in System Settings (testing it still works), and i still get notifications about pulseaudio falling back to my card...23:20
miramaralguem sabe se tem como eu ver que versao do linux estou usando por comando..........23:21
shadeslayerign0ramus: try a restart23:21
shadeslayer!es | miramar23:21
ubottumiramar: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.23:21
ign0ramusshadeslayer, seems like the only other option23:21
ign0ramusbrb rebooting23:21
miramarsim23:22
miramarah ta23:22
miramarqual que é bom p\ mim23:22
shadeslayermiramar: hi,this is a english only channel,please could you state your native language so that we can re direct you?23:23
ign0ramusshadeslayer, hmmm... still listed, and still works23:24
ign0ramusMamarok, you there?23:24
shadeslayer\o/23:24
harjotign0ramus: how long are you there 4??23:24
harjotshadeslaayer ur on uqite a bit 223:25
ign0ramusharjot, i'll be here for another 45 mins or so23:25
harjotur like alioways on23:25
ign0ramusharjot, you're using konversation... do you know you can tab-autocomplete people's nicks so you don't typo?23:25
harjotreally ty23:26
harjotign0ramus: what so i start typing then hit tab sweet23:26
ign0ramusharjot, if you type "ign" and hit the tab key, it will autocomplete my nick for you23:26
shadeslayerharjot: yes,and if i guess correctly youre a punjabi :)23:27
harjotdoes any1 know whether flightgear works on intel chipset i.e gm96523:27
ign0ramusharjot, no idea.23:27
shadeslayer!intel | harjot23:27
ubottuharjot: Ubuntu 9.04 has a known regression for some Intel graphics support. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 for more information.23:27
harjotshadeslayer: how did u guess??? btw im sikh but my native laungguage is punjabi23:28
harjotyes 8.04 still has some as well as 9.0423:28
shadeslayerharjot: im in gurgaon :)23:28
harjotshadeslayer: i dont know what that means23:28
shadeslayernever mind23:29
harjotomg flightgear works IT WOEKS23:29
harjotshadeslayer: im only a 12 year old child23:29
shadeslayer\0/....23:29
harjotlol23:29
harjotw8 a sec let me try and fly flightgear23:30
ign0ramusharjot, it's in the repos, i would hope it works ;)23:30
harjotit does23:31
shadeslayerharjot: of course it does ;)23:31
ign0ramusharjot, it's been in the repos since at least Dapper, and even with the terrible Intel support, it should still work23:32
ign0ramusharjot, have you tried the Intel Performance guide listed above? It's a godsend for those of us with Intel graphics :)23:32
JuJuBeeI have a winxp dirve that I mount in linux, can I mount that into a vm running on top of linux?23:33
shadeslayerJuJuBee: nope..since a VM uses seprate HD's23:33
ign0ramusJuJuBee, which vm are you using?23:34
JuJuBeehmmm.  that stinks.23:34
JuJuBeeusing vmserver at moment to create a vm with xp6423:34
JuJuBeeWant to get at some data on my xp drive23:34
JuJuBeequicken specifically.23:34
harjotign0ramus: is it 4 8.04?23:35
JuJuBeeWant  to be able to use quicken if logged into linux or windows23:35
ign0ramusharjot, if you installed it through the repos, it is appropriate for your version23:35
ign0ramusJuJuBee, i don't know the details, but apparently, you can run a Linux partition using Vbox from Windows, so I would imagine its possible.  Source: http://www.ltyer.com/wordpress/tutorial-boot-existing-ubuntu-partition-using-virtualbox-inside-windows23:36
harjotign0ramus: i meant the intel perfomanvce giuide23:37
ign0ramusharjot, well, the thread is titled: "HOWTO: Jaunty Intel Graphics Performance Guide" ... so what do you think? :)23:38
ign0ramusharjot, if you're using 8.04, you won't be experiencing the heavy intel performance regressions of jaunty23:38
harjotign0ramus: nope im dumb i cant read [sarcasim every1 laughs]23:38
harjotign0ramus: it still doesnt work with all programs does it??23:39
ign0ramusharjot, doesn't what work?23:39
max_How can i run a check on an ISO to make sure it is ok?23:39
shadeslayer!md5 | max_23:40
ubottumax_: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows23:40
harjotign0ramus: just some apps never mind i consult when i have a prblem [ihave done in the oast wiv intel graphics]23:41
ign0ramusharjot, pretty much all apps in Jaunty (and kde 4 in general) 'work' in varying degrees23:42
ign0ramusyes... xorg-edgers PPA just updated :)23:43
max_Does anyone know what would cause several cds (made from different iso's) not work on a bran-new HP laptop? Ive been trying to install Kubuntu9.04(kde3 remix) to install, but when it boots up to the disk, no matter what option i check it just freezes. It also does this with any 64bit version(the hp has a 64bit amd processor in it) and it also freezes with the kubuntu 8.10 disk.23:43
ign0ramusmax_, do the discs work on any other computer?23:44
shadeslayermax_: i hope you didnt burn via brasero?23:44
max_ign0ramus: yes, they do.23:44
max_shadeslayer: no, k3b.23:44
shadeslayermax_: thank god :)23:44
ign0ramusmax_, then maybe a hardware issue.  what model lappy?23:44
Serpardumhave you tried any other CDs in the disk to make srue teh CD player is working?23:44
ign0ramusSerpardum, good thinking :)23:45
max_Serpardum: yes, it installs the kde4 version of 9.04 just fine (but its INCREDIABLY slow) and i installed 8.04 (which im on right now)23:45
max_ign0ramus: just a second and ill find out.23:45
Serpardumare you by chance trying to install a 64 bit os in a 32 bit computer?23:46
max_ign0ramus: G60-244DX23:46
shadeslayeri have to reboot....all my uptime of 4 days lost...gone... :'(23:46
shadeslayerpoof!23:46
ign0ramusSerpardum, he said it has an amd64 cpu in it...23:46
shadeslayerbye all23:46
max_Serpardum: and in addition to the 64 bit's not working, several of the 32bit versions hang also.23:46
SerpardumHmm... I think I'd return it and get a new one.23:47
max_Serpardum: It was a gift, so i cant.23:47
Serpardumyou said it was new?23:47
max_Yes.23:47
SerpardumJust ask the gifter to exchange it for yout hen23:48
Serpardum"You gave me a broken ass computer!  Take it back and give me a new one!"  :D  Little more polite of course.23:48
max_Serpardum: I can't. And i doubt they would take a return on it since ive already wiped Vista off of it and such.23:48
Serpardumyou formated their restore partition?23:49
max_Yes.23:49
SerpardumJust tell them it came like that ^^23:49
gabriel_I did that too, but I habe the restore disks23:49
SerpardumThe fact is, it's broken23:49
gabriel_have23:49
max_Serpardum: i dont believe it is.23:49
SerpardumI've had compouters that wouldn't install some OSes but would others23:49
max_Ive googled around, and several people seem to have this problem.23:49
Serpardumturns out they were broken23:49
max_And vista ran just find on it.23:50
gabriel_what kind of computer23:50
ign0ramusmax_, i don't think it's broken, but isn't the Jaunty KDE 3 remix an unsupported version?23:50
max_HP G60-244DX23:50
Serpardumare you sure teh linux on teh CDs are good writes?23:50
gabriel_essential drivers for things like videocards cometimes don't allow installing certain os23:51
gabriel_laptop?23:51
max_ign0ramus: Im not sure. But thats not the only cd that wont install correctly.23:51
max_Serpardum: yes, they work on other computers23:51
max_gabriel_: yes23:51
ign0ramusgabriel_, that's why i'm thinking it may be a hardware issue, but others have had success installing (k)ubuntu on the same model23:51
gabriel_try downloading and installing the dvd iso it is better cause it's like 10 gigs uncompressed23:51
max_Why does it being larger make it better?23:52
gabriel_because there are more drivers available or something it just works better...23:52
trappistthe size implies that it has more software on it that you won't have to download later23:52
shadeslayerwhats the VGA number for a 1440X900 resolution screen?? 864 ?23:52
gabriel_none idea shadeslayer23:53
max_It hangs immediately upon the title screen. At the "try kubuntu" "install kubuntu" "check cd" etc etc.23:53
gabriel_u working with xserver config?23:53
gabriel_that sounds like a bad cd to me23:53
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shadeslayergabriel_: nope....grub kernel line...the new 180.44 nvidia drivers added a vga option,now i can get a tty in 1440X900 without hangs on hibernate23:54
max_The cds work on other computer. And they verify after burn on k3b checked out fine.23:54
gabriel_even with a good checksum the burn can to disk can be corrupted.  seems worse when burnt from windows platform23:54
shadeslayer*resuming from hibernate23:54
gabriel_i mean microcoft23:54
ign0ramusmax_, have you tried an Alternate Install CD?23:55
Zoraelshadeslayer: grab hwinfo from the repos, and do sudo hwinfo --framebuffer23:55
max_ign0ramus:23:55
max_ign0ramus: No, i havent23:55
shadeslayerok23:55
gabriel_oh I don't have nvidia anymore intel stuff now.  wish I still did though nvidia good stuff23:55
Zoraelshadeslayer: it'll show you the available modes in hex, so 0x301, etc23:55
ign0ramusmax_, that should get you past the gui freeze-up at least, and maybe you can troubleshoot a little more that way.  just an option...23:56
gabriel_what are repos?23:56
max_ign0ramus: ill give that a try.23:56
ign0ramus!repos | gabriel_23:56
ubottugabriel_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories23:56
Zoraelhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu23:56
max_ign0ramus: you wouldnt happen to know how to install kde3.5 from a normal 9.04 install would you?23:56
gabriel_oh coulda just said repositories lol23:56
Zoraelrepos, repositories, software sources, take your pick. :323:57
ign0ramusmax_, honestly no.  i seriously considered it when i first installed Jaunty, but now at 4.2.4 and i'm happy enough to keep it23:57
togeticalright, so my problem was that after typing my username and password in kdm, i wasn't logged, i was returned to the kdm login screen, so then i went to a tty screen to figure out what's going on, but i can't even use common commands like ls, cd, and vim. i've rebooted into a live cd and chrooted into the computer, the output of echo $PATH looks fine: /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/shar23:57
max_ign0ramus: id give it a try, but when i installed 9.04 on here it ran incredibly slow, and i just assumed kde4 had something to do with it, because 8.04 runs just great.23:58
gabriel_cool togetic what's chrooted mean?23:58
ign0ramusmax_, most likely because of your intel graphics, but there's workarounds for that23:58
ign0ramus!chroot | gabriel_23:59
max_ign0ramus: its got an nvidia card in it.23:59
ubottugabriel_: chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot)23:59
togeticgabriel_: i'm guessing short for "change root"23:59
togeticthat's a better def.23:59
max_well chipset i suppose, since its a laptop23:59
ign0ramusmax_, oh, someone said they now had intel... thought it was you. sorry23:59
gabriel_cool !chroot |gabriel23:59
gabriel_oopse23:59
gabriel_!chroot | gabriel23:59
ubottugabriel: chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot)23:59

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