[00:18] <Serpardum> I run kate in konsole, open file, edit, save, close kate.  "KCrash: Application 'kate' crashing...  sock_file=/hime/jim/.kde/socket-ubuntu/kdeinit4__0
[00:18] <jillsmitt> hi
[00:18] <Serpardum> what can I do to find out what's wrong?  It has done this for a while
[00:18] <ibou> hi. Im on jaunty. After i installed wicd i reinstalled plasma-widget-network-manager but now i have to start NetworkManager with a 'sudo NetworkManager' in the console. How to start it at start up?
[00:19] <Serpardum> it has to be added to one of the inits
[00:19] <Serpardum> I dont' know which one though
[00:19] <ibou> one of the inits ?
[00:20] <milo__> hi
[00:20] <ibou> hi
[00:20] <Serpardum> see if this thread helps you: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1063788.html
[00:20] <milo__> im a newbie in linux and i need some help
[00:20] <milo__> ...
[00:21] <Serpardum> ...
[00:21] <ibou> Serpardum: not really. But thx
[00:21] <milo__> while trying to install and configure vpnc for my laptop i think i messed up
[00:21] <Serpardum> it looks like /etc/rc.local file may help you
[00:21] <milo__> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers
[00:22] <Serpardum> milo__, did you edit that file?
[00:22] <milo__> i think so
[00:22] <milo__> and that's the whole problem
[00:22] <Serpardum> well, paste your file in the pasting bin
[00:23] <milo__> the file I edited?
[00:23] <Serpardum> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[00:23] <Serpardum> yes, your sudoers file
[00:24] <milo__> do i need to be root to have access to it? if yes i can't because i can't be even root actually
[00:24] <Serpardum> you use kate?  sudo kate
[00:24] <Serpardum> in konsole
[00:24] <ibou> Serpardum: not really again. But thanks again ^
[00:24] <Serpardum> there is another way but it's like wtf
[00:24] <milo__> no. visudo
[00:24] <Serpardum> sudo visudo
[00:25] <milo__> yup
[00:25] <Serpardum> type sudo visudo then you'll have acces to it in visudo
[00:25] <milo__> ok let me try
[00:26] <milo__> sudoers file: syntax error, line 24 <<<
[00:26] <milo__> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 24
[00:26] <milo__> this is the err im getting
[00:26] <Serpardum> milo__, did you paste it?
[00:26] <Serpardum> we have to see what's on line 24 to tell you what's wrong.  WE're not psychic
[00:26] <milo__> do you want me to paste the err message?
[00:27] <eMyller> where do i get kate extensions?
[00:27] <Serpardum> do this: run konsole.  type: sudo visudo /etc/sudoers
[00:27] <eMyller> does anyone know an editor better than kate?
[00:27] <jillsmitt> heh)
[00:27] <milo__> ok
[00:27] <Serpardum> copy teh file to the clipboard.  open the clipboard link. paste it.
[00:28] <Serpardum> eMyller: there are a few
[00:28] <Serpardum> you might find some in apt-cache
[00:28] <eMyller> Serpardum: editor? any example?
[00:28] <milo__> same message.
[00:28] <Serpardum> pico
[00:28] <Serpardum> milo__ PASTE THE FILE TO THE PASTEING BIN SO WE CAN SEE IT
[00:29] <milo__> which file? The one i edited in vim?
[00:29] <Serpardum>  /etc/sudoers
[00:30] <Serpardum> eMyller: type in konsole apt-get update
[00:30] <Serpardum> then do apt-cache search editor
[00:30] <Serpardum> tons of editors
[00:31] <Serpardum> zim, xemacs, nedit, yudit, etc..
[00:31] <milo__> pasted.
[00:32] <milo__> im getting permission denied when i try /etc/sudoers
[00:32] <Serpardum> what's the link milo__?
[00:32] <Serpardum> to the paste you pasted?
[00:33] <Serpardum> copy the url and paste it here
[00:33] <milo__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/191204/
[00:33] <Serpardum> that's the error.  we need you to paste the /etc/sudoers line.
[00:33] <Serpardum> Listen closely.  run konsole
[00:33] <Serpardum> type: sudo kate /etc/sudoers
[00:34] <Serpardum> copy that text on the right.
[00:34] <Serpardum> go to the pasting bin
[00:34] <Serpardum> paste it.
[00:34] <Serpardum> give us the link
[00:34] <milo__> ok
[00:35] <Serpardum> reminds me of when I used to do help desk :D
[00:36] <eMyller> Serpardum: okay, but are they better than kate? extensible?
[00:37] <milo__> I think im missing something because when i follow closely your instructions, all i get is the same message error i pasted.
[00:37] <eMyller> milo__: http://pastebin.com/
[00:38] <Serpardum> milo__:  you see the file open on the right?  hight light it all, click on it and ctrl-a is easist, then right click and "copy to clipboard"
[00:40] <milo__> nope. Didn't see any file; just the webpage.
[00:41] <milo__> im lost!
[00:43] <Serpardum> open konsole
[00:43] <Serpardum> tell me when you did htat
[00:43] <milo__> reset
[00:43] <milo__> done
[00:44] <Serpardum> in konsole type: sudo kate /etc/sudoers
[00:44] <Serpardum> tell me when you've done that
[00:44] <milo__> done.
[00:44] <Serpardum> it asked you for your password?  did you type in your password?
[00:45] <Serpardum> if it asks for password type it in.  Did kate open?
[00:45] <milo__> it didn't ask for my password but it rather output the error message
[00:46] <milo__> it's where im having trouble
[00:46] <Serpardum> it output the syntax error ?
[00:46] <milo__> exactly
[00:46] <Serpardum> what error message did it output in konsle
[00:46] <Serpardum> did it say sudoers file: syntax error, line 24 <<<
[00:46] <Serpardum> ?
[00:46] <coz_> hey guys ... any way to get extract here right click for desktop pacakges?
[00:46] <milo__> >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 24 <<<
[00:46] <milo__> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 24
[00:46] <Serpardum> where does it say that, in konsole?
[00:47] <Serpardum> okay, fine, we'll have to try pico then I guess.  pico's a bit ugly
[00:47] <Serpardum> you'll probably need to get it.
[00:47] <milo__> just after I typed the command
[00:47] <Serpardum> sudo apt-get install pico
[00:47] <milo__> ok
[00:47] <Serpardum> oh, shit
[00:47] <Serpardum> pardon my french
[00:47] <Serpardum> yeah, here's the problem
[00:47] <Serpardum> that sudoers file tells the system who can do sudo
[00:47] <Pici> nano/pico is installed by default.
[00:48] <Serpardum> and you can't sudo if it's messed up
[00:48] <Serpardum> and you need to sudo to edit it.
[00:48] <Serpardum> wow.  umm.
[00:48] <Pici> You can boot into recovery mode to modify it or use a live-cd
[00:48] <Serpardum> yeah, try booting into recovery mode and editing yoru screwed up line 24
[00:49] <milo__> actually, I don't have the live-cd with me
[00:49] <Serpardum> pico is a text based editor
[00:49] <Serpardum> try booting into recovery mode then
[00:49] <milo__> but i can use the recov' mode
[00:49] <Pici> And you should really use visudo to modify the sudoers file
[00:50] <milo__> what are the steps to take once into recov' mode?
[00:51] <milo__> ??
[00:52] <Dragnslcr> Serpardum- first, never use sudo for GUI programs, always use kdesudo. Second, there's no need to install pico when nano is installed by default
[00:53] <Dragnslcr> milo__- when you boot into recovery mode, you'll be root, so you can fix the sudoers file with just "visudo"
[00:54] <milo__> ok. I think i needto remove the line i added, right?
[00:55] <milo__> if that's all so...i'll try it and be back
[01:09] <Serpardum> what's the difference between sudo and kdesudo?
[01:09] <Dragnslcr> sudo is for shell commands, kdesudo is for KDE programs
[01:10] <Dragnslcr> !kdesudo
[01:11] <Serpardum> Hmm.. that's probably how I broke kate then
[01:11] <Serpardum> that link says that kate won't even run with sudo, although it does for me.  but now it always crashes on exit
[01:12] <Serpardum> I wonder if uninstalling kate and reinstalling woudl fix that
[01:18] <mtl_templar> hey everyone
[01:18] <mtl_templar> anyone able to troubleshoot java issues with an app im trying to install?
[01:18] <Serpardum> nope, still crashes.  dang
[01:19] <Serpardum> Well, I've backed up my data to my windows drive, so I"ll just recreate teh virtualbox for kubuntu I guess
[01:19] <mtl_templar> hmm
[01:43] <XCP> wow... I just installed kubuntu after 8 months with ubuntu, and I'm SO much more impressed with the new KDE. the eye candy (even without compiz) and ability to configure *everything* amazes me.
[01:44] <Dragnslcr> The effects in KDE4 are pretty nice
[01:44] <Dragnslcr> KDE has been "more configurable" than Gnome for a while now. It's a hard trade-off between being flexible and being too complicated
[01:48] <XCP> yes. when I first switched from Windows to Linux about 8 months ago, I was "told" that KDE is somehow more buggy than gnome, so I decided to use gnome. hopefully the guy was wrong and I gonna enjoy KDE as much as I can.
[01:48] <genii> Every desktop environment has it's idiosyncrasies
[01:58] <milo__> hey! Im back
[01:58] <ahmad_> wb
[02:00] <milo__> im still having a problem
[02:01] <milo__> when i try sudo bash, i get this:milo is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported
[02:01] <milo__> milo is my username
[02:02] <ahmad_> what is the user u created when u installed ur system ?
[02:04] <milo__> milo
[02:06] <ahmad_> milo__: echo 'zodehala ALL=(ALL) ALL' >> /etc/sudoers
[02:06] <ahmad_> sorry
[02:06] <ahmad_> milo__: echo 'milo ALL=(ALL) ALL' >> /etc/sudoers
[02:07] <milo__> ok, let me try
[02:08] <ahmad_> milo__: did it work?
[02:08] <milo__> "permission denied!"
[02:08] <ahmad_> ok
[02:08] <ahmad_> try the following
[02:08] <ahmad_> su -
[02:08] <ahmad_> visudo
[02:09] <ahmad_> add this line to the file: milo ALL=(ALL)     ALL
[02:09] <ahmad_> :wq
[02:11] <milo__> ok
[02:11] <Dragnslcr> You probably need to boot into recovery mode to get root access
[02:12] <genii> Yup
[02:12] <genii> su won't work since no default root pw.
[02:12] <Dragnslcr> If your only normal user isn't in the sudoers file, that's basically your only option
[02:12] <ahmad_> ops i fogot that genii
[02:12] <secoz> hi to all from mexico
[02:12] <milo__> "Authentication failure" for su -
[02:13] <milo__> what shld i do now?
[02:13] <b0nn> sudo -s
[02:13] <ahmad_> you'll have to reboot into single-user mode, and execute usermod
[02:13] <ahmad_> directly from root
[02:14] <genii> milo__: Boot to recovery mode. Then do as before the suggested: echo "milo ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers
[02:14] <genii> b0nn: His prob is he's not in sudoers file. eg: catch-22
[02:15] <ahmad_> is this enough ? you'll have to reboot into single-user mode, and execute usermod
[02:15] <ahmad_> directly from root
[02:15] <ahmad_> sorry
[02:15] <ahmad_> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL <-- is this enough ?
[02:16] <milo__> ok. I can have access to the sudoers file from the recov' mode
[02:16] <ahmad_> cause i can see my user in sudoers but i can sudo
[02:16] <ahmad_> i cant see my user in sudoers i mean
[02:17] <flavio_> Alguem poderia me dar uma ajuda com uma instalação de placa Nvidia ?
[02:17] <genii> ahmad_: Thats because the default user is an admin. And the line: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL   allows you to sudo
[02:17] <genii> !br | flavio_
[02:17] <flavio_> opa desculpa cara.. obrigado pelo aviso =]
[02:18] <flavio_> #ubuntu-br
[02:18] <genii> flavio_: eg: /join #ubuntu-br
[02:18] <ahmad_> genii: if i add username ALL=(ALL) ALL this will override %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL ?
[02:18] <genii> ahmad_: It will also introduce a massive security problem
[02:19] <ahmad_> then milo__ should not add the line i gave him
[02:19] <ahmad_> he should add %admin
[02:19] <genii> ahmad_: The best current solution is to add his name to sudoers. Then to boot into regular, add himself to admin group, remove his specific name from sudoers
[02:20] <ahmad_> aha i got it now thanx genii
[02:20] <milo__> yes yes! how and where shld i add my name?
[02:20] <genii> milo__: As before the suggested: echo "milo ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers
[02:21] <milo__> at the top?
[02:21] <genii> milo__: The command given just adds the needed info without having to enter some editor
[02:22] <milo__> im a bit lost. so i don't need to be in the recov' mode before entering the command you gave me?
[02:22] <milo__> just from the konsole?
[02:23] <ahmad_> no milo__ u have to be in recovery mode to run this command
[02:23] <ahmad_> or boot with LiveCD
[02:23] <milo__> cool
[02:23] <ahmad_> run the command then add ur self to admin group
[02:23] <genii> milo__: "recovery mode" puts you into a console. Enter that echo command in there. You choose the recovery mode during boot. Hit ESC when grub starts, choose recovery, etc etc
[02:23] <ahmad_> after that u have to remove the line u added to sudoers file
[02:25] <milo__> ok. I've already removed the line i added
[02:25] <milo__> i will try the comand u gave me
[02:28] <milo__> !brb
[02:28] <milo__> hhihhih. I will be right back
[02:28] <milo__> :D
[02:35] <nonewmsgs> i am trying to read my ubuntu partition in xp on the same comp and explore2fs works but isnt satisfactory, but ext2ifs isnt working.  it detects the drives, assigns them letters, but windows tells me that the drives are not formated
[02:36] <lee8oi> nonewmsgs: its not really the best idea to give windows access to the linux partitions. Windows tends to screw things up like that
[02:37] <nonewmsgs> lee8oi, while i realize this, this machine seems to be more of a windows box than a linux box
[02:37] <lee8oi> nonewmsgs: ya that happens. if ext2fs addon for windows doesn't do it, then I'm not sure. might be best to get the files you need put onto a flash drive
[02:39] <genii> !ext3
[02:39] <genii> The one above is recommended
[02:39] <lee8oi> handy to have
[02:39] <lee8oi> pretty much a factoid...is that a supybot?
[02:39] <genii> Yup
[02:39] <lee8oi> ahh ok
[02:39] <nonewmsgs> oh duh i found it in the troubleshooting
[02:40] <lee8oi> cool supybots rock if you know python pretty well
[02:40] <nonewmsgs> apparantly i didnt cleantly unmount it
[02:40] <lee8oi> nonewmsgs: that can do it
[02:40] <lee8oi> happens with flash drives too. if you dont' remove it properly in windows, won't work right in linux
[02:40] <lee8oi> sometimes
[02:41] <nonewmsgs> flash drives always complain when i go from linux to windows about not being cleanly umounted
[02:41] <nonewmsgs> at least th sandisks do
[02:42] <lee8oi> ya not from linux TO windows.....just from windows to linux
[02:44] <genii> nonewmsgs: Thats why you want to issue something like: sudo sync && sudo umount /dev/whatever  && sudo eject /dev/whatever
[02:44] <genii> And if from Windows then "safely eject device" from that icon in the tray
[02:45] <nonewmsgs> oooooo you do both at the same time.  i always got confuzzled by that.  i would eject without umounting or umount without ejecting
[02:49] <nonewmsgs> yup ext2ifs is working fine now!
[02:57] <aditya_> hi everyone
[02:58] <milo__> hi
[02:58] <ahmad_> hi
[02:58] <ahmad_> milo__: did it work?
[02:58] <aditya_> im new here in irc...umm what is that word...oh yeah noob! :P
[02:58] <milo__> yes i think it worked!
[02:59] <ahmad_> so u can sudo now ?
[02:59] <milo__> but i still have permision denied when i try visudo
[02:59] <milo__> yes i can sudo
[02:59] <ahmad_> milo__: sudo cat /etc/sudoers
[02:59] <ahmad_> copy me at private
[02:59] <genii> Use pastebin please
[03:00] <milo__> do u want to take a look at the sudoers file?
[03:00] <ahmad_> yea please
[03:00] <milo__> ok
[03:02] <milo__> http://pastebin.com/m7ca53a3a here is the URL
[03:02] <genii> milo__: The idea is that we made the username of milo specifically allowed to use sudo. But the proper way is now to add your name into the group of "admin" and then remove the line we added before in the sudoers file if the line: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL       exists there already
[03:03] <aditya_> wow so many members online and so few to chat with :(
[03:03] <milo__> sorry dude
[03:03] <milo__> :D
[03:03] <ahmad_> wait
[03:03] <genii> aditya_: For casual chat please use #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:03] <ahmad_> the %admin line is missing
[03:04] <genii> ahmad_: Yes
[03:04] <genii> milo__: Please also pastebin result of command: groups
[03:04] <ahmad_> aditya: go to DALnet for chat
[03:05] <milo__> genii: I don't really understand
[03:05] <ahmad_> milo__:  sudo groups
[03:05] <genii> aditya_: I do not accept Private Messages.
[03:06] <aditya_> thanks guys
[03:06] <milo__> "root" is the output
[03:06] <genii> milo__: Go into Konsole, and then type: groups                          this will tell us if you already are in the admin group.
[03:06] <ahmad_> he is
[03:06] <milo__> got "root"
[03:06] <genii> milo__: If the only group you belong to is "root" then something is severely screwed. Unless you are still in Recovery Console
[03:07] <genii> result of command: groups    on my box: user adm disk dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin admin mythtv
[03:08] <ahmad_> milo__: groups
[03:08] <milo__> im not in recov' mode anymore
[03:08] <ahmad_> genii: its my mistake not his
[03:09] <genii> ahmad_: Did you tell him to do something like usermod to add into a goup, without using the -a switch for Apped and not Replace?
[03:09] <genii> *Append
[03:09] <draik> Hello all. I seem to keep having my USB and Internet give out at random times. I SSH, it kills my Internet almost instantly. I try to copy something form my USB, it dies around 10MB of transfer.
[03:09] <ahmad_> no geniii asked him to sudo groups :D
[03:10] <ahmad_> that will show root only for sure
[03:10] <genii> ahmad_: Hehe, makes sense now
[03:10] <draik> How can I find out what is happening with my USB and Internet connection?
[03:10] <ahmad_> milo__: run this command without sudo : groups
[03:10] <milo__> only "groups"?
[03:10] <ahmad_> yes milo__
[03:11] <milo__> ok
[03:11] <milo__> milo adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[03:12] <milo__> it's the output
[03:12] <ahmad_> ok try this out
[03:12] <genii> ahmad_ , milo__ Good... just need to add the admin line to sudoers now and remove the milo-specific one
[03:12] <genii> Then things will be back to normal operation
[03:13] <ahmad_> sudo echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers
[03:13] <ahmad_> i hope so
[03:13] <ahmad_> genii: u know how to run mythtv ?
[03:13] <genii> ahmad_: Yes
[03:14] <genii> ahmad_: That command won't work
[03:14] <ahmad_> please help me with it
[03:14] <ahmad_> why not ?
[03:14] <milo__> which command?
[03:14] <milo__> ahmad's?
[03:14] <genii> milo__: <ahmad_> sudo echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers
[03:14] <genii> That won't work. It needs admin access to do the >> /etc/sudoers part
[03:15] <genii> 1 sec I'll write the correct command
[03:15] <milo__> ok
[03:15] <ahmad_> in this case he need to go to recovery mode again ?
[03:15] <genii> milo__: echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" | sudo tee -a /etc/sudoers
[03:15] <genii> ahmad_: Nope
[03:15] <ahmad_> ah i see now why it wont work
[03:15] <genii> ahmad_: :)
[03:16] <ahmad_> nice trick though
[03:16] <ahmad_> tee the output
[03:17] <ahmad_> genii: would u help me to run mythtv ?
[03:17] <milo__> what's that bar be4 sudo?
[03:17] <genii> ahmad_: I'm not a MythTV expert :)
[03:18] <genii> milo__: That bar is called a "pipe" . On english keyboards usually it's above the Enter key
[03:18] <Serpardum> what was the name of the "other" irc client?  I thought it was kommunicator but apt-get doesn't seem to find that
[03:18] <genii> Serpardum: There are a *lot* of irc clients
[03:18] <Serpardum> the one that is similar to kommunicator?
[03:18] <Serpardum> name wise?
[03:18] <genii> Serpardum: Quassel, Xchat ,Konversation
[03:18] <genii> ...
[03:19] <Serpardum> konversation!  that's it, thanks
[03:19] <ahmad_> hahhaa
[03:19] <genii> Serpardum: Welcome
[03:20] <genii> milo__: So after that line gets added, need to remove the line which we added earlier from recovery mode.
[03:20] <genii> milo__: For this, you can do:  kdesudo kate /etc/sudoers                  and use Kate to change it
[03:20] <XCP> hi! I have an ATI HD 4850, and if I click (in the restricted drivers dialog) on "activate", nothing happens. any idea how to install the driver?
[03:21] <milo__> ok
[03:21] <Serpardum> there we go.  Think I got kubuntu back to where I had it before reinstall
[03:23] <milo__> got sudoers file in kate in front of me...
[03:24] <Serpardum> ahh, you fix it?
[03:24] <Serpardum> line 25?
[03:24] <milo__> not completely
[03:24] <genii> milo__: Good. Remove the line reading: milo ALL=(ALL) ALL
[03:24] <genii> milo__: Then save, and it should be as it should
[03:24] <milo__> ok
[03:24] <Serpardum> genii, there is a tutorial out there that says to add that, I didn't.  I dont' know if it breaks things or right but it didnt' look right to me either.
[03:25] <milo__> are you sure i have to remove it?
[03:26] <ahmad_> milo__: yes remove milo ALL=(ALL) ALL but besure %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL is there
[03:26] <milo__> let me check
[03:26] <genii> Serpardum: Putting a specific username is less a prob than ANY as the name... any daemon which has a username could have admin access for instance. Also user "nobody". The specific username is about the same as the admin line, except now he could change his username and still be able to sudo
[03:27] <milo__> wasn't there, but i put it. :D
[03:27] <Serpardum> mine has seemingly 2 lines, root ALL=(ALL) ALL and %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[03:27] <genii> milo__: Good.
[03:27] <draik> How can I find out what is causing my computer to no longer connect to the Internet or read USB devices?
[03:28] <genii> Serpardum: Thats what a normal one should look like
[03:28] <Serpardum> one tutorial for shared folders told me to add jim ALL=(ALL) ALL but I didn't think that was a good diea
[03:29] <genii> draik: Some investigating.... check output of dmesg for instance to see any weird messages about usb or so on...
[03:29] <Serpardum> oh it was jim ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL  it wanted me to add even
[03:29] <draik> genii: Thank you. I will post it right now after the reboot
[03:29] <ahmad_> Serpardum: looks dangerous to me
[03:30] <milo__> Done!
[03:30] <ahmad_> milo__: tru visudo
[03:31] <ahmad_> try visudo
[03:31] <milo__> Oohh, i did it tru kate
[03:31] <milo__> i will just do it again
[03:31] <ahmad_> no
[03:31] <ahmad_> u dont have to
[03:32] <draik> genii: It just term'd the Internet connection. Here is all I have for the 'eth0' entries...
[03:32] <Serpardum> what is visudo?  I get permission denied
[03:32] <milo__> if i dun have to so, it's ok.
[03:32] <ahmad_> milo__: if sudoers file have %admin and milo is removed it should be fine now
[03:33] <draik> genii: eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1      eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[03:33] <genii> Serpardum: There are special commands which lock the file you are working on..special files like sudoers file, password files, and so on. The editor is vi   so visudo   is for sudoers, vipw is for pasword file, etc etc. But on a single-user system any editor is fine
[03:33] <Serpardum> ahh, kay
[03:34] <draik> genii: A lot more came up. Will reboot to post those results
[03:34] <genii> draik: I'm not going to be able to help much, heading to sleep shortly
[03:34] <draik> genii: OK. I will try to dissect it and see if I can make sense of it all.
[03:35] <genii> draik: I would suggest to pastebin result of command: dmesg
[03:35] <ahmad_> genii: u know a good telnet client works on KDE ?
[03:35] <milo__> Yataaaa!!! Thanks guys!!!!!
[03:35] <genii> ahmad_: I usually use command-line client
[03:36] <ahmad_> milo__: welcome
[03:36] <milo__> but why did that visudo always permission denied? strange
[03:36] <ahmad_> genii: command-line client didnt work with dynamips
[03:36] <draik> Here is my dmesg pastebin:  http://pastebin.com/m1eb103aa
[03:37] <ahmad_> milo__: its protected
[03:37] <genii> milo__: Because you need to use sudo with it, ironically. But as I just explained to Serpardum, on single user system it's not needed
[03:38] <milo__> aahh ok. Thanks once again.
[03:38] <genii> ahmad_: Ah. If the command-line doesn't work I doubt any gui one will. Some issue with dynamips and telnetting, likely
[03:39] <ahmad_> genii: i guess so, on fedora it works fine .. and i hate to rebot to windows just for dynamips
[03:47] <coreyman> I am installing an application, and it says it requires 32 bit jre, i have 64 bit.... how do i install the 32 bit? I used sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[03:51] <milo___> can someone tell me how to join python's channel?
[03:51] <coreyman>  /join #python ?
[03:51] <kyzylsungur> hi all
[03:56] <ahmad_> hi
[03:56] <kyzylsungur> how can I join a new network in Konverstaion program? I want to join in #Pardus. May you help me?
[03:56] <kyzylsungur> selam ahmad
[03:56] <ahmad_> salam kyzylsungur
[03:56] <kyzylsungur> I joined =)
[03:56] <coreyman> kyzylsungur just use /join #Pardus
[03:56] <kyzylsungur> Sukran ahmad =) thanks =)
[03:57] <ahmad_> kyzylsungur: u welcome :)
[03:57] <kyzylsungur> =)
[03:58] <draik> If someone can help me with my desktop disconnecting from my desktop, here is my dmesg pastebin:  http://pastebin.com/m1eb103aa
[03:59] <kyzylsungur> what's that pastebin?
[03:59] <Dragnslcr> kyzylsungur- just so you know, that's called a channel, not a network. A network is (more or less) a collection of channels
[04:00] <kyzylsungur> I see. I am in kubuntu channel and I'm in Konverstaion network. =)
[04:01] <kyzylsungur> hmm
[04:01] <kyzylsungur> I am in Ubuntu IRC network
[04:01] <kyzylsungur> lol =)
[04:01] <kyzylsungur> Actually, I'm not good at instant messengers. =)
[04:02] <kyzylsungur> Is there a ubuntu channel? #ubuntu
[04:03] <kyzylsungur> oki doki. I use Ubuntu 9.04 So I should leave this channel. Bye everybody! =)
[04:05] <XCP9> how can I get desktop folder views to be updated automatically in kde4?
[04:16] <draik> If someone can help me with my desktop disconnecting from my desktop, here is my dmesg pastebin:  http://pastebin.com/m1eb103aa
[04:16] <draik> If someone can help me with my desktop disconnecting from the Internet, here is my dmesg pastebin:  http://pastebin.com/m1eb103aa
[04:18] <sparr> How can X be in a mode my monitor doesn't support when xrandr reports that it is still in my default (working) mode (1280x1024@50)?  This happens most often when launching games, sometimes games I am certain use lower resolutions.  Attempting to do "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr -s 1" from a console results in X crashing.
[04:35] <milo__> why can't i watch some videos on facebook? "video unvailable"
[04:36] <milo__> i think the problem is with my flash plugin
[04:36] <draik> milo__: Do you have the nonfree plugin?
[04:36] <milo__> yes
[04:36] <draik> Updated?
[04:36] <milo__> yes
[04:37] <max_> How can I installed the kde3.5 remix on my current install?
[04:38] <milo__> I posted three videos from youtube that I can watch but i can't watch others videos
[04:38] <milo__> it's the same on some other websites...
[04:39] <max_> !kde3
[04:39] <draik> milo__: Got a link?
[04:40] <milo__> for one of the websites?
[04:40] <milo__> no. forgot them
[04:41] <DaskreeCH> Hello
[04:41] <DaskreeCH>  Is eem to have No icons
[04:41] <DaskreeCH>  or pictures
[04:41] <DaskreeCH>  of anykind Anyone have any ideas?
[04:44] <draik> If someone can help me with my desktop disconnecting from the Internet, here is my dmesg pastebin:  http://pastebin.com/m1eb103aa
[04:45] <Serpardum> I"m too newb to kubuntu tfor either of those
[04:46] <draik> DaskreeCH: What do you have in its place?
[04:47] <DaskreeCH> draik: Nothing
[04:47] <draik> DaskreeCH: Not even a page image with a question mark?
[04:48] <DaskreeCH> Dragnslcr: Nope hold on
[04:49] <draik> Dragnslcr: That was meant for me :)
[04:50] <DaskreeCH> draik: http://imagebin.ca/view/Mrg5Xbzp.html
[04:51] <draik> DaskreeCH: Looking...
[04:52] <DaskreeCH> Dragnslcr: Apologies :)
[04:52] <draik> DaskreeCH: Weird. When the bottom panel took a dump, I just rebooted and it was all back. As for the Folder Viewer widget, this seems to root deeper than a reboot. No recent updates that may have caused this?
[04:52] <alexshenoy> can somebody help me set up udb support in jaunty
[04:53] <alexshenoy> usb* for virtualbox
[04:53] <draik> alexshenoy: Get the deb from virtualbox.org. I have USB working for me.
[04:53] <alexshenoy> i have the deb from virtualbox.org. its all the devices are grayed out
[04:54] <DaskreeCH> draik: I just installed. Did a minimal install then pulled in the desktop
[04:54] <DaskreeCH> came up with no images.
[04:54] <max_> How can i install the kde3 remix on my new 9.04 install?
[04:54] <DaskreeCH> !kde3
[04:54] <alexshenoy> i know that you have to do something to get usb working. b/c thats why i never did
[04:55] <DaskreeCH> draik: None of the buttons The Login manager nothing has any icons
[04:55] <draik> alexshenoy: Best of my knowledge, "it just works" with the deb from the site. You may be thinking of the guest add-ons.
[04:55] <draik> DaskreeCH: I wonder if whatever you installed may have caused this. It's quite odd.
[04:55] <alexshenoy> im talking about usb support in virtualbox to share usb devices with the client
[04:55] <alexshenoy> guest
[04:55] <alexshenoy> i have the guest additions installed
[04:55] <max_> DaskreeCH: the only thing about instilation on that page are the cd images.
[04:56] <DaskreeCH> draik: I think that I may have missed a KDE-icons package or missed a configure cache
[04:56] <draik> alexshenoy: Sorry. I don't know what else to say since the USB just works in my Guest OS.
[04:57] <alexshenoy> they just show up?
[04:57] <draik> DaskreeCH: That's a possibility
[04:57] <draik> alexshenoy: Yes.
[04:58] <alexshenoy> hurm
[04:58] <alexshenoy> alright. ill see what i can find on the google
[04:58] <alexshenoy> thanks
[04:58] <Mike_lifeguard> How do you restart X server in kubuntu?
[04:59] <ahmad_> ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:59] <p_quarles> ahmad_: doesn't work by default in Jaunty
[04:59] <Mike_lifeguard> isn't that disabled by default now?
[04:59] <alexshenoy> draik: what kind of devices are you using with it
[04:59] <p_quarles> need to add "dontzap=disabled" to xorg.conf
[04:59] <Mike_lifeguard> /etc/something/kdm restart...?
[04:59] <max_> How can i install the kde3 remix on my new 9.04 install?
[04:59] <p_quarles> Mike_lifeguard: just log out of the session and choose the "restart X" option from the login manager
[05:00] <Mike_lifeguard> no, I need the terminal command
[05:00] <DaskreeCH> Mike_lifeguard: Log out and press alt+E on the login screen or press alt+Sysreq+k
[05:00] <DaskreeCH> Mike_lifeguard: Ah sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[05:00] <Mike_lifeguard> for gnome it is "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" for example
[05:00] <Mike_lifeguard> ok, kdm - thanks
[05:00] <draik> alexshenoy: 2 printers, webcam and my G1 phone.
[05:00] <Mike_lifeguard> DaskreeCH: do you happen to know what it'd be for xubuntu?
[05:01] <p_quarles> Mike_lifeguard: I think disabling the dontzap extension is probably better to using /etc/init.d/kdm restart just to unfreeze an X session
[05:01] <alexshenoy> so its not just storage devices then?
[05:01] <alexshenoy> any usb will work
[05:01] <Mike_lifeguard> Yes, but I'm writing documentation, not actually restarting my X :)
[05:01] <draik> alexshenoy: Right.
[05:01] <DaskreeCH> Mike_lifeguard: gdm
[05:02] <Mike_lifeguard> gdm for xubuntu? O-o
[05:02] <DaskreeCH> You have GDM XDM and KDM
[05:02] <alexshenoy> b/c im considering an iPhone 3GS and i want to have 7 in a vbox and use that to do updates etc.
[05:02] <Mike_lifeguard> ah, right, k
[05:02] <DaskreeCH> If you don't have KDM then you have GDM
[05:02] <DaskreeCH> No one uses XDM
[05:03] <Mike_lifeguard> great, thanks
[05:04] <alexshenoy> draik: how do you have your vbox setup
[05:04] <alexshenoy> like the machine settings. for usb
[05:07] <draik> alexshenoy: Nothing special. It is "as-is" from the installation from the deb package on the virtualbox.org site
[05:07] <alexshenoy> what does it say for filters for you
[05:07] <draik> 1-sec. Let me check
[05:07] <max_> How can i install the kde3 remix on my new 9.04 install?
[05:08] <draik> alexshenoy: Filters? Where do you see this?
[05:08] <alexshenoy> in the settings on the machine. in the usb "tab"
[05:08] <alexshenoy> gah! ff really suckjs now
[05:09] <draik> alexshenoy: Sorry, I was looking for a Filters section. OK. Which one do you want? Webcam, printer, phone or all?
[05:09] <DaskreeCH> draik: Fixed
[05:09] <alexshenoy> hurm. well ive got a g5 and a sansa fuze
[05:09] <draik> DaskreeCH: What was it?
[05:10] <alexshenoy> try the phone. its probly closest to what i want
[05:10] <DaskreeCH> kde-icons-oxygen wasn't installed
[05:10] <draik> DaskreeCH: I'm glad you got it resolved. Congrats.
[05:10] <draik> alexshenoy: Name: HTC Android Phone [0100]
[05:11] <draik> alexshenoy: Vendor ID: 0BB4
[05:11] <draik> alexshenoy: Product ID: 0C02
[05:11] <draik> alexshenoy: Revision: 0100
[05:11] <draik> alexshenoy: Manufacturer: HTC
[05:11] <draik> alexshenoy: Product: Android Phone
[05:12] <draik> alexshenoy: Serial No: HT851GZ01889
[05:12] <draik> alexshenoy: Port: (blank)
[05:12] <draik> alexshenoy: Remote: No
[05:12] <alexshenoy> okay so i have roughly the same thing
[05:12] <alexshenoy> can you pastebin your fstab
[05:12] <max_> Can someone please tell me how to install KDE 3.5 on a Kubuntu 9.04 install.
[05:12] <alexshenoy> i want to see if you have usbfs mounted in there
[05:13] <alexshenoy> max_ download the kde3 remix
[05:13] <draik> max_: If someone knows, they will help you out.
[05:13] <draik> alexshenoy: http://pastebin.com/f4781a48d
[05:13] <max_> alexshenoy: I know there is a way to just install it overtop of an existing install, i just dont remember how.
[05:14] <draik> If someone can help me with my desktop disconnecting from the Internet, here is my dmesg pastebin:  http://pastebin.com/m1eb103aa
[05:16] <alexshenoy> alright. im going to reboot and see if i can't figure this out. if not, ill go bug the vbox guy :-)
[05:23] <PhrkOnLsh> [meta]: hey bro, you might have to buy me that T91, seems it may only be in Europe ;)
[05:23] <max_> How can i view what i have downloading in konqueror?
[05:24] <PhrkOnLsh> max_: they show in seperate kio windows, or in kget if you have kget integartion enabled
[05:25] <alexshenoy> draik: the good news is i think i got it, b/c when i started vbox my mouse froze and wouldnt do anything
[05:25] <alexshenoy> lol
[05:25] <draik> alexshenoy: I'm not sure that puts you a step ahead, but change is usually good (some of the times)
[05:26] <alexshenoy> well when i closed the vbox, i got it back
[05:26] <alexshenoy> and now the sansa is showing up in vbox as well
[05:26] <alexshenoy> so idk what i did, but i removed the usb filter for the mouse
[05:27] <draik> I usually don't have filters set, but that was from my last set of configs where I was just adding everything for the sake of testing.
[05:27] <alexshenoy> yay! it works
[05:27] <draik> Did you do anything new, alexshenoy?
[05:28] <draik> Aside from removing the USB filters, that is.
[05:28] <alexshenoy> draik: i just set the filters, then i restarted the vm but it didnt work, so i restarted my computer and it did
[05:28] <draik> OK.
[05:28] <alexshenoy> i should ask what are you running in vbox?
[05:29] <draik> XP
[05:29] <draik> with SP3, if that matters
[05:31] <draik> I just have to figure out now what is causing my desktop to disconnect from the Internet and router. It just fails for no reason at all.
[05:31] <alexshenoy> draik: i hate errors that seem to happen at random. its like, id love to help fix them, but i dont know what causes them
[05:32] <draik> My USB transfer onto my desktop also failed after 250MB
[05:32] <draik> It's weird. This all started around early/mid 8.10
[05:32] <alexshenoy> so for the g1, does it mount as a mass storage device, or actually show up as a phone
[05:33] <draik> Both. It mounts as the phone (for the name) but it's a mass storage device
[05:36] <trog> hey what is swap space used for?, should it be as big as a dvd if I want to transfer that size?
[05:37] <alexshenoy> i just want to know if i plug an iPhone in will iTunes in win7 recognize it
[05:37] <draik> trog: SWAP is the Windows equivalent of virtual RAM. It should be equal to or 2x your actual RAM
[05:38] <TweakedEh> I have ubuntu 8.10 and I was wondering how I would get x-server working
[05:38] <draik> TweakedEh: If you're in the GUI, you have x-server working
[05:39] <TweakedEh> I'm on a different box right now.
[05:39] <draik> What's the issue with your x-server? Any error message?
[05:39] <TweakedEh> no, I log in on a big terminal window but I don't know how to get X running
[05:40] <trog> great thx draik, makes sense it's 7.2, but only have 2.5 ram installed, mobo capable of 4gig, seems a bit high still
[05:41] <TweakedEh> I installed "xserver" and "xserver-xorg" but I don't know if it's right or how to start it.
[05:44] <draik> trog: You're welcome.
[05:44] <draik> TweakedEh: Do you also have a GUI installed?
[05:45] <TweakedEh> draik: No I only installed the xserver stuff.. do I have to install "GUI" ?
[05:53] <draik> If someone can help me with my desktop disconnecting from the Internet, here is my dmesg pastebin:  http://pastebin.com/m1eb103aa
[05:54] <bibstha> any Xserver guru around?
[05:54] <bibstha> having trouble with xvfb
[06:04] <sparr> When an app changes my X video mode to one my monitor doesn't support, how can I recover?  "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr" reports that it is still in a known-good video mode (my default, 1280x1024@50Hz).  "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr -s 1" from a console results in X crashing.
[06:30] <max_> I just got a new computer, it has a dual core amd processor (the sticker on the laptop says X2) so i'm assuming i need the bit version of kubuntu. So i downloaded that and out it on a disk. But when i put the cd in and booted up to it and tried to install kubuntu, it wouldnt ever load. It just got stuck at a black screen with a cursor in the top left. I thought maybe it just had burned a bad cd, so i downloaded another iso and burnned it to ano
[06:30] <max_>  and it did the same thing. So i put in a normal 386 disk, and it installed, but its running extremely slowly. Does anyone know why it would do this?
[06:37] <oobe> max_, if you get a boot prompt on the amd64 cd you can try noapic or apcioff
[06:37] <max_> What does that do?
[06:38] <noaXess> good morning
[06:38] <noaXess> how do i upgrad the kernel? if i run a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade the kernel upgrades will kept back..
[06:39] <oobe> some motherboards wont boot without those kernel options
[06:40] <oobe> otherwise you amd dual core may not be 64 bit it could be a sempron
[06:40] <max_> It just seems like it would be 64, since it had a little AMD sticker that says 64 on the front. How can i double check just to make sure
[06:43] <myself> anyone know of anything that could integrate a NEWS RSS feed directly into my desktop background? in KDE
[06:43] <myself> i mean any specific widgets to install or w/e
[06:43] <max_> oobe: Would installing a 32 bit version on a computer made for 64 make performance exceptionally slow? (like im experiancing now)
[06:43] <myself> i am looking for a good one like that
[06:48] <oobe> to tell you the truth i have never been happy with x64 performance
[06:48] <oobe> i go back to 32
[06:49] <oobe> i cant explain it
[06:53] <myself> anyone
[06:53] <myself> can anyone give me any recommendations
[06:53] <oobe> is 32 slow or just 64
[07:00] <myself>  Tecumseh myself xiaket robinr Jadeite max_ solid_liq bastid_raZor hateball blizzz tdn_ stoffel susbwoy ubunturos OxDeadC0de rossco com9 aaroncampbell__ bibstha MarkieMark1 FeasibilityStudy dhq alexshenoy Ahadiel keram linuxwizard romullo JulCes project-emerald Trakis benbloom DerKon inanimate lolipop sparr Dragnslcr asobi Serpardum yrl_ gunni DarkriftX Wicked n410 eka christobal_ chibi-wing nonewmsgs hostel_ |Cueball| m4v n
[07:00] <myself> 0u nturner_ mtl_templar
[07:01] <OxDeadC0de> ....
[07:01] <bastid_raZor> myself; yeah i can
[07:01] <myself> okay :)
[07:01] <romullo> wtf
[07:01] <DarkriftX> erm, thats rude as hell
[07:01] <hateball> ...
[07:01] <xiaket> ....
[07:01] <ubunturos> I expected a 'wt...'
[07:01] <bastid_raZor> myself; stop being a dumbass and google.. don't do what you did
[07:01] <DarkriftX> i wouldnt answer even if i knew the answer
[07:01] <hateball> @lart myself
[07:01] <myself> oh no i made you look at your chat screen, its the end of the world
[07:02] <DarkriftX> nor would i care enough to go read your question after that
[07:02] <ubunturos> myself: it can be difficult not to find an answer as quickly you want, but take it easy.
[07:02] <bastid_raZor> myself; yeah.. you did. i was busy doing other things. you are less important
[07:02] <ubunturos> myself: to answer your question, I don't use KDE4 or 4.x so can't say.
[07:02] <MarkieMark1> !anybody > myself
[07:03] <sparr> myself: goodbye
[07:04] <Ahadiel> myself, ...........
[07:04] <myself> >:)
[07:04] <sparr> myself: welcome to not getting an answer for the foreseeable future
[07:05] <bazhang> !ops | myself spamming
[07:05] <DarkriftX> wow, thats almost as bad as what he did
[07:05] <sparr> not really
[07:05] <DarkriftX> spamming the ops to tell them taht someone else was spamming
[07:06] <sparr> it's a trigger built into the official channel bot, specifically for pinging the ops
[07:06] <DarkriftX> yeah, i know
[07:06] <sparr> I know that if I was an op here, I would have a different (more noticable) alert on that than on a normal nick highlight
[07:06] <DarkriftX> and i know its for a purpose, but still.... if ppl would realize the world wasnt put here for them things would be easier
[07:07]  * DarkriftX momentarily ponders spamming an away message before he goes to bed to put a cherry on top
[07:12] <noaXess> how do i upgrad the kernel? if i run a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade the kernel upgrades will kept back..
[07:14] <sparr> noaXess: un-keptback them?
[07:14] <noaXess> sparr: how?
[07:14] <sparr> it involves dpkg --set-selections
[07:15] <sparr> i dont remember the details
[07:20] <bibstha> i have iptables forwarding network packets for internet sharing
[07:20] <bibstha> what tool can i use to monitor the bandwidth of individual hosts?
[07:20] <adam_> I just tried to activate proprietary drivers for Nvidia.  And nothing happend.
[07:21] <adam_> It's still not activated...why not?
[07:21] <bazhang> bibstha, monitor and/or shape? try trickle
[07:21] <bastid_raZor> adam_; have you restarted X ?
[07:21] <bibstha> bazhang, thanks
[07:21] <adam_> bastid_raZor: No.
[07:21] <adam_> Should I?
[07:22] <bastid_raZor> yes
[07:22] <adam_> Why doesn't CTRL ALT and backspace restart X?
[07:22] <adam_> How do I restart X otherwise?
[07:22] <bazhang> !dontzap
[07:23] <bibstha> bazhang, thats for local applications right?
[07:23] <bazhang> !info trickle | bibstha
[07:23] <bibstha> bazhang, i was looking for sth that would display the bandwidth of individual hosts that are being NATted..
[07:23] <adam_> Bah, what's the command in terminal?
[07:24] <bastid_raZor> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[07:24] <bazhang> bibstha, not sure, let me websearch
[07:27] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu-users.html bibstha
[07:28] <bibstha> bazhang, was looking for it. testing etherape right now
[07:28] <bazhang> bibstha, good luck :)
[07:35] <adam_> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[07:35] <adam_> What is this?
[07:41] <oobe> simple instructions to follow
[07:41] <oobe> it is saying you are not using nvidia drivers
[07:41] <oobe> then it goes on to explain a fullproof way to go ahead and use them
[07:42] <adam_> oobe: I've tried to activate ti won't activate.
[07:46] <oobe> adam_, what video card do you have
[07:47] <adam_> I'll Be back..
[07:47] <adam_> It may be fixed.
[07:47] <oobe> god only knows
[07:49] <zoiss> hi guys. does anyone work with texlive + pstricks in kubuntu?
[07:51] <noaXess> does anybody have a hint to upgrade the kernel? with apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade kernel upgrades are kept back
[07:53] <ahmad_> noaXess, sudo apt-get upgrade kernel
[07:53] <oobe> sudo aptitude  full-upgrade
[07:53] <bazhang> ahmad_, that wont do anything
[07:53] <oobe> noaXess, sudo aptitude  full-upgrade
[07:53] <oobe>  will work
[07:54] <noaXess> oobe:
[07:54] <noaXess> ok
[07:54] <oobe> as apose to above mentioned things not working
[07:54] <ahmad_> bazhang, why ?
[07:54] <bazhang> ahmad_, its a nonsense command that's why
[07:58] <digdeep> I have tried: sudo aptitude  full-upgrade --> linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic are kept back in my case
[08:23] <noaXess> ok. i have run sudo aptitude full-upgrade.. and now follwoing packages are removed and now it woll downgrade the kernel linux-headers-generic [2.6.28.12.16 (now) -> 2.6.28.11.15 (jaunty)]??? why?
[08:23] <noaXess> the three packages that are removed are: linux-generic, linux-image, linux-image-generic
[08:23] <noaXess> any idea? trus aptitude and go on or what?
[08:23] <noaXess> .. trust..
[08:29] <oobe> maybe you shouldnt bother noaXess every time i upgrade a kernel i need to build new drivers for things if everything is already working ok no need to fix it
[08:30] <oobe> having said all of that aptitude should give you multiple choices with Y N choices as far as package upgrades
[08:30] <bazhang> w00t
[08:34] <Assurbanipal> hi guys, i am using kubuntu 9,04 64 bit and face problems with some applications causing high cpu usage.can someone help me out?
[08:34] <noaXess> how do i install the right linux-headers for my running kernel? something with uname -r?
[08:35] <adam_> Ok, I can't get the drivers for the nvidia 6500 installed.
[08:35] <adam_> OR rather, using hardware drivers.
[08:35] <adam_> It never says "Activated"
[08:35] <adam_> What can I do?
[08:38] <oobe> adam_, "sudo apt-get install  nvidia-173-kernel-source && sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig && sudo nvidia-xconfig && sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart "  should do it of course do not use the quoute marks
[08:39] <Assurbanipal> hi guys, i am using kubuntu 9,04 64 bit and face problems with some applications causing high cpu usage.can someone help me out?
[08:42] <adam_> oobe: I stated that.
[08:42] <adam_> But, it left from GUI to text only.
[08:42] <adam_> And stoped.
[08:43] <adam_> And, I can't CTRL ALT F7 back to Gui
[08:43] <oobe> you mean you tried using that string in a console
[08:43] <oobe> you need to login via tty and restart x
[08:44] <adam_> How do I do that?
[08:44] <adam_> Yes.
[08:44] <adam_> Just log in and go ctrl alt F1?
[08:44] <oobe> yea
[08:45] <oobe> then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[08:45] <oobe> then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[08:45] <oobe> lsmod | grep nv should show the nvidia driver
[08:45] <oobe> or you can always try rebooting
[08:46] <adam_> Ok, now, can I ctrl alt F1 right now?
[08:46] <adam_> And could you re-post that big long line you gave me.
[08:46] <oobe> yea
[08:46] <oobe> if you want
[08:46] <oobe> adam_, "sudo apt-get install  nvidia-173-kernel-source && sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig && sudo nvidia-xconfig && sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart "  should do it of course do not use the quoute marks
[08:47] <oobe> you can also try installing envyng
[08:47] <adam_> Hold on please, lemme try this :)
[08:47] <adam_> Thanks for the help :)
[08:47] <oobe> ok
[08:47] <oobe> well see
[08:47] <adam_> I just realized I can't copy paste ther can I?
[08:49] <jussi01> adam_: shift+insert to copy into konsole
[08:51] <adam_> It's tty?
[08:51] <jussi01> adam_: ctrl+shift+v ?
[08:52] <adam_> Nope, I guess I ahve to type it out o.O
[08:55] <Assurbanipal> hi guys, i am using kubuntu 9,04 64 bit and face problems with some applications causing high cpu usage.can someone help me out?
[09:04] <oobe> Assurbanipal, run top and see what the process names are that are using all the CPU then post back here or search google
[09:05] <oobe> i know that flash plugin and firefox tend to go a bit overboard in X64
[09:05] <adam_> oobe: It didn't work
[09:05] <Assurbanipal> oobe: i have tried that but can't get to a conclusion. t mostly hapen's in firefox and python
[09:05] <oobe> did you try rebooting
[09:06] <adam_> oobe: No.
[09:06] <adam_> I restarted x
[09:06] <oobe> adam_, try rebooting if that doesnt work install envyng from a tty then run envyng -t
[09:07] <adam_> what do I do to install envyg?
[09:07] <oobe> sudo apt-get install envyng-qt
[09:07] <oobe> it is a nice program that downloads install your nvidia drivers
[09:07] <oobe> then run nvidia-xconfig again
[09:12] <ashish> hi al
[09:13] <oobe> Assurbanipal, sorry i cant help you
[09:13] <oobe> who is al
[09:15] <Adola> Ok, I did that stuff, what now?
[09:15] <oobe> Adola, you ran envyng -t
[09:15] <Adola> Sorry, no
[09:16] <oobe> but you installed envy
[09:17] <Adola> It said headers for my kernels are missing.
[09:17] <Adola> So drivers couldn't be installed.
[09:18] <Adola> oobe?
[09:18] <oobe> ok do this sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[09:18] <Adola> Can I do this in terminal?
[09:18] <oobe> yes
[09:18] <oobe> if you cant copy and paste it
[09:18] <oobe> then make sure you get the back ticks right
[09:19] <oobe> ` should be the key next to 1
[09:19] <oobe> on your keyboard
[09:20] <Adola> oobe I sent you the readout.
[09:20] <Adola> in a PM
[09:21] <tsimpson> better to use $() rather than ``
[09:22] <oobe> ok that should of worked you will have to look for the package manually by typing this aptitude search linux-headers | grep `uname -r`
[09:23] <oobe> or aptitude search linux-headers | grep 2.6.27-7
[09:24] <Adola> That command doesn't pull anything up :/
[09:26] <Adola> This is so frustrating, I don't know how to find th epackage manually.....
[09:28] <oobe> try adept
[09:29] <Adola> And I'm looking for "header files"?
[09:36] <ahmad-> does Kmail support exchange2003 ?
[09:37] <Adola> oobe: I can't find any of these that I don't already have.
[09:38] <Adola> My version is 2.6.27-7-generic...And there are no headerfiles for that to be installed.
[09:40] <tsimpson> !info linux-headers-2.6.27-7-generic intrepid
[09:40] <tsimpson> Adola: it does exist, make sure your repositories are enabled
[09:40] <Adola> Um, which ones?
[09:41] <tsimpson> the main ones
[09:41] <max_> !nvidia
[09:42] <Adola> tsimpson: I've got all of the repos enabled.
[09:43] <Adola> I don't have a 2.6.27-7-generic header files.
[09:43] <tsimpson> Adola: what does "lsb_release -sc" output?
[09:44] <Adola> jaunty
[09:45] <tsimpson> Adola: then you are running a very old kernel, 2.6.28-11-generic is the latest currently
[09:45] <Adola> How do I get the most recent?
[09:45] <Adola> I really need these video drivers to work.
[09:46] <tsimpson> install the "linux-generic" package
[09:47] <tsimpson> then install linux-headers-generic
[09:48] <Adola> Ok....In Synaptic it says installed is 2.6.28.11.15
[09:48] <Adola> This si so confusing.
[09:48] <Adola> It's saying in synaptic that i have that version isntalled.
[09:49] <tsimpson> that's just the version of the meta-package, it means 2.6.28-11
[09:49] <Adola> But, I'm saying, it says it's installed.
[09:49] <tsimpson> so then you'll need to reboot into it
[09:50] <tsimpson> you're running an old kernel, make sure you select the newer one from grub
[09:50] <Adola> Wait, how do I select the newer one?
[09:50] <tsimpson> when grub is loading, press escape to bring up the grub menu
[09:50] <tsimpson> there you can choose which kernel to boot into
[09:51] <Adola> Ok, BRB :)
[09:56] <Adola> That didn't work.
[09:56] <Adola> Can't I change what kernel I boot into here?
[09:56] <Adola> Like, in terminal?
[09:57] <tsimpson> Adola: what exactly didn't work?
[09:58] <Adola> tsimpson: pressing escape at grub to choose what kernel.
[09:58] <Adola> I couldn't find where to change kernels.
[09:58] <Adola> ANd nothing appeard when I pressed "esc"
[10:00] <tsimpson> Adola: ok, from System Settings -> Advanced choose "GRUB Editor"
[10:01] <Adola> tsimpson: Ok.
[10:01] <tsimpson> from there you should be able to choose the default entry to boot
[10:01] <Adola> Yes.
[10:01] <Adola> Its' what I always boot from.
[10:02] <tsimpson> make sure it's the 2.6.28-11-generic entry, then make sure that "uname -r" shows "2.6.28-11-generic"
[10:03] <Adola> Um, I can't change it...
[10:03] <Adola> It just says "Kubuntu 8.10 auto magic"
[10:03] <tsimpson> it should have a radio-button to the right to select the default
[10:04] <Adola> yes, I think I'm figuring it out.
[10:04] <Adola> I'm adding something to it.
[10:04] <Adola> 2.6.28-11-generic
[10:04] <Adola> Is that the one I want?
[10:05] <Adola> I'm adding an entry called Kubuntu 9.04 and choosing that as the kernel
[10:05] <tsimpson> yes
[10:06] <Adola> Abi, config, initrd?  Which one>?
[10:06] <Adola> vmlinuz?
[10:07] <Adola> tsimpson:
[10:07] <tsimpson> have a look at the other entry and just change "2.6.27-7-generic" to "2.6.28-11-generic"
[10:10] <tsimpson> when it asks for the kernel filename choose "/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-generic", for the initrd: "/boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-11-generic"
[10:11] <Adola> BRB :)
[10:11] <tsimpson> and make sure you set the "Root UUID" and "quiet" options for the kernel
[10:29] <Adola> It worked everyone :)
[10:29] <Adola> It worked!
[10:38] <oobe> Adola, yay
[10:38] <Adola> Thanks so much guys :)
[10:39] <oobe> no worries im guessing you upgraded from 8.10 or somthing
[12:01] <kurumin> bom dia a todos
[12:03] <bazhang> !br
[12:07] <kurumin> alguem na sala???
[12:07] <bazhang> kurumin, /join #ubuntu-br
[12:11] <drcode> hi all
[12:11] <drcode> hi all
[12:11] <bazhang> hi
[12:11] <drcode> how can I load script at ent of boot?
[12:11] <drcode> I try to use /etc/rc5.d/S99local
[12:11] <drcode> without lack
[12:17] <RurouniJones> is there  a small kde app for mounting iso?
[12:17] <RurouniJones> iso files rather
[12:19] <bazhang> RurouniJones, iso? is a video iso, a distro iso, or something different
[12:20] <RurouniJones> as in a normal ISO 9660 compatible CD ISO file
[12:20] <RurouniJones> I am fed up of always having to drop to the command line but the only kde gui app I could find looks to be an abandoned iso mounting script
[12:21] <Kjaras_> can any one help me ???? i cant read the text in the servers at css
[12:21] <bazhang> video or other RurouniJones
[12:21] <RurouniJones> An old game I want to try running in wine.
[12:22]  * RurouniJones waits for someone to scream "PIRACY"
[12:25] <RurouniJones> Command line it is then.
[12:25]  * RurouniJones adds a iso mounting plasmoid to the TODO list
[12:43] <corigo> Any suggestions on how to easily roll back to 8.04 without loosing my personal settings? Esp. for Opera
[12:43] <bazhang> corigo, do you have a separate /home partition ?
[12:44] <corigo> bazhang: I do and more besides
[12:44] <bazhang> corigo, should be safe then
[12:44] <bazhang> always good to have backups though, just in case :)
[12:45] <corigo> boot, root, usr, var, srv, and home partitions
[12:47] <corigo> bazhang: so you are saying just install over the existing system?
[12:47] <mkargar__> hello
[12:47] <bazhang> corigo, that was the point of having a separate home was it not?
[12:47] <bazhang> hi
[12:49] <SandGorgon> guys, does a 64-bit kubuntu perform better than a 32 bit one, on a core2 duo ?
[12:49] <mkargar__> i installed kubuntu 9.04 on AMD Dual Core!but,my system very very hanging..!what's problem?
[12:49] <bazhang> SandGorgon, how much ram do you have
[12:49] <SandGorgon> 2 gb
[12:50] <bazhang> not noticeable I would surmise
[12:51] <mkargar__> SandGorgon:64bit!i tested on Dual Core AMD!it's very very hanging...!
[12:52] <mkargar__> i installed kubuntu 9.04 on AMD Dual Core!but,my system very very hanging..!what's problem?
[13:15] <BluesKaj> G'Day all
[13:15] <mark___> morning
[13:16]  * BluesKaj goes for coffee
[13:28] <vbgunz> inux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic
[13:28] <vbgunz> anyone know why those packages keep being held back? apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't get them :/
[13:30] <vbgunz> I think I got it
[13:31] <noaXess1> what's another way to upgrade the kernel? it will be blocked over KPackageKit
[13:38] <BluesKaj> noaXess, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[13:40] <khaije1> can i share a /boot between two linux distro's ?
[13:41] <BluesKaj> yup
[13:43] <AndyBerlin> hi!
[13:43] <AndyBerlin> I had wifi on my laptop, then I ran the latest update and now wifi is gone
[13:44] <AndyBerlin> I can only connect via eth
[13:44] <AndyBerlin> what can i do to regain my wifi?
[13:48] <AndyBerlin> kubuntu intrepid ibex
[13:48] <BluesKaj> AndyBerlin, open add widgets and look for network management, add it , then right click on the icon and set up wifi from there
[13:49] <BluesKaj> oops , dunno if that will work on intrepid
[13:49] <AndyBerlin> I have this green earth thing, I think, that's the widget you're talking about
[13:50] <AndyBerlin> have it in another language version though, so I'm not really sure
[13:50] <AndyBerlin> there used to be displayed  all the wireless networks
[13:50] <BluesKaj> yeah, that's networkmanager , right click on it to set up wifi
[13:51] <AndyBerlin> the thing itself is still there and I can edit the previously saved wifi networks, but I cannot add a new one anymore as i seems not to find the hardware support anymore
[13:51] <AndyBerlin> right click->new connection only displays eth0
[13:51] <AndyBerlin> before that it had always shown: eth0 and wirelesss
[13:52] <BluesKaj> you have to disconnect the eth0 , then try again
[13:53] <BluesKaj> in the wireless options
[13:55] <AndyBerlin> BluesKaj, then there is NOTHING where I can connect
[13:55] <AndyBerlin> yesterday I was connected by wifi and today I tried and it did not work so I had to plug in the cable
[13:56] <BluesKaj> do you have a wireless option showing in manage connections ?
[13:57] <AndyBerlin> in edit connection I have a hole lot of saved wireless connenctions
[13:58] <AndyBerlin> when I hit new connection there, up on the left I have wireed and wireless.
[13:58] <AndyBerlin> but wireless finds none, though there are at least five ones currently available.
[13:59] <AndyBerlin> only cliking on the icon in the panel and then on "new connection" only gives eth0
[13:59] <AndyBerlin> so i guess, it has somehow switched off my wireless card
[13:59] <BluesKaj> AndyBerlin, have you rebooted since the update ?
[13:59] <AndyBerlin> yes
[13:59] <AndyBerlin> I know originially the wireless card was not supported by kubuntu and I had to activate backports in order to make it work
[14:00] <AndyBerlin> it has always worked fien since then
[14:01] <AndyBerlin> but after update (sudo apt-get update upgrade dist-upgrade autoremove) it stopped working and autoremove said it removed two backports things, but I though it didd so due to them not being needed anymore as update installed, so I thought, newer versions
[14:03] <AndyBerlin> :-(
[14:03] <BluesKaj> AndyBerlin, I had some wifi probs on jaunty, so i reinstalled networkmanager , even tho it was depracated for that version it still worked
[14:04] <AndyBerlin> so I remove it from panel and simply add it to panel again?
[14:04] <BluesKaj> remove and then reinstall
[14:04] <AndyBerlin> Will try that
[14:05] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get remove
[14:05] <noaXess> BluesKaj: with sudo aptitude safe-upgrade they will also kept back: The following packages have been kept back: linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic
[14:06] <BluesKaj> noaXess, then those generics have obviously been replaced
[14:07] <noaXess> BluesKaj: what now?
[14:07] <noaXess> remove them?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> no, they aren't installed
[14:07] <AndyBerlin> yes, I think it's been them that have been removed
[14:08] <AndyBerlin> ok, I removed and installed it
[14:09] <BluesKaj> AndyBerlin, ok now see if it scans for available networks
[14:09] <AndyBerlin> 'remove' said it was not installed, 'install' installed it and 'knetworkmanager' started it. it's the same green earth I had before
[14:09] <AndyBerlin> and still no wifi. devices: eth0
[14:09] <BluesKaj> is eth0 still connected ?
[14:10] <AndyBerlin> yes
[14:10] <AndyBerlin> otherwise I wouldn't be in here
[14:10] <AndyBerlin> but I often had both connected at the same time
[14:10] <BluesKaj> disconnect it , otherwise the wifi won't scan
[14:13] <Paraselene__> Does Jaunty not support taskbar reordering? Can't seem to find an option to toggle it on
[14:14] <jussi01> Paraselene__: task bar reordering? ie. alphabetical or something else?
[14:14] <Paraselene__> Drag/drop reordering
[14:15] <khaije1> thx BluesKaj, i'm trying to carve up a system with vista so i can get linux on here
[14:15] <jussi01> Paraselene__: Not that Ive seen, but I could be incorrect
[14:15] <AndySpain> did not work
[14:16] <jussi01> AndySpain: which wifi card do you have?
[14:16] <AndySpain> pulling gthe plug only cut off internet connection, but still only the eth0 device was found
[14:16] <AndySpain> atheros
[14:16] <AndySpain> dunno exactly which model of it
[14:16] <khaije1> hopefully i can get multiple distros on a single /boot and lvm partition without breaking windows (which is always a task)
[14:18] <myself> hey does anyone know a good website or repository that has widgets and stuff for Kubuntu? Im looking for something that does a desktop integrated news RSS feed
[14:19] <AndySpain> jussi01:  lspci: 08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[14:22] <BluesKaj> myself, there's an RSS widget available
[14:22] <myself> i want something transparent that will like integrate into my desktop background
[14:22] <BluesKaj> just lookin the widgets list
[14:23] <carolija> what is this Eeebuntu ?
[14:23] <carolija> some new distro for notebook
[14:24] <carolija> i was wondering what's wrong with kubuntu if they make Eeebuntu
[14:25] <bazhang> carolija, you mean unr?
[14:26] <AndySpain> anybody can help me recover my wifi?
[14:26] <carolija> bazhang, I did not understand the word "unr" ?
[14:27] <bazhang> ubuntu-netbook-remix
[14:28] <carolija> yes
[14:28] <bazhang> not eeebuntu
[14:29] <carolija> i read something and i am confused so  ill continue to read lol
[14:30] <bazhang> eeebuntu is something entirely different carolija
[14:30] <carolija> yes ?
[14:30] <carolija> that is what i read now
[14:30] <bazhang> yes.
[14:30] <carolija> its something new ?
[14:31] <bazhang> UNR?
[14:31] <carolija> Eeebuntu
[14:31] <carolija> that oe
[14:31] <carolija> one*
[14:31] <bazhang> not really no
[14:31] <carolija> hmm
[14:31] <carolija> ok, so definitely have to read this one
[14:32] <carolija> bazhang, thank you anyway
[14:32] <bazhang> better to use the UNR honestly
[14:32] <carolija> no i dont want to use it
[14:32] <carolija> it's just reading
[14:32] <carolija> I amready use kubuntu
[14:32] <carolija> and I am good with it
[14:32] <carolija> I mean I have no problems
[14:32] <carolija> already*
[14:32] <bazhang> okay
[14:38] <vbgunz> how do I get the printer config system setting applet?
[14:38] <AndySpain> ok, will check this later, gotta go now
[14:38] <AndySpain> bye
[14:44] <sobersabre> hi.
[14:44] <sobersabre> I'm on ubuntu 8.04, I'd like to try kde 4.2.4 without upgrading to jaunty.
[14:46] <sobersabre> are there 8.04 backport repositories for 4.2.4 ?
[14:46] <dazjorz> Hey
[14:46] <sobersabre> I mean KDE 4.2.*
[14:47] <dazjorz> I don't know where exactly this should be reported, maybe it should be #ubuntu+1, but I thought I'd drop a note: I have 'klash' installed, but when I run 'klash' on the terminal, it says I should install the package 'klash' (I tried it because I thought gnash didn't play to pulseaudio and padsp didn't help)
[14:51] <sobersabre> is there a hardy dedicated channel ?
[14:51] <dazjorz> (at least I got the sound problem: for some reason, sound was muted etc etc)
[14:51] <dazjorz> in pulse, it was both muted and volume was too low although it didn't *seem* to low at 40%
[14:52] <Dragnslcr> sobersabre- I highly doubt it. There might be KDE 4.1 packages for 8.04, but I'm not sure. The bot says that the version available is 4.0.3
[14:54] <sobersabre> Dragnslcr: why is there no backport ?
[14:54] <sobersabre> 8.04 is supposed to be "long term support".
[14:54] <Dragnslcr> Not for Kubuntu it isn't
[14:54] <sobersabre> 4.0 KDE is supposed to be unstable.
[14:55] <sobersabre> Dragnslcr: are there any kubuntu long term support releases ?
[14:55] <Dragnslcr> Not since 6.06
[14:55] <ForgeAus> I don't recommend 4.0.x
[14:55] <ForgeAus> kde4.2 or better if your going to use kde4 at all
[14:55] <sobersabre> ForgeAus: I don't recommend it to myself myself
[14:55] <sobersabre> :)
[14:56] <ForgeAus> either that or 3.5.10 or so...
[14:56] <Dragnslcr> And if it were long-term support, you probably wouldn't find KDE 4.2. The point of long-term support is that it doesn't change significantly during its lifetime
[14:56] <sobersabre> I thought KDE 4.2 is supposed to be quite stable.
[14:56] <sobersabre> and for long.
[14:57] <myself> how do i make a certain program start up w/ startup in kubuntu
[14:57] <sobersabre> anyway, so ... is it possible to generate debs for 8.04 myself ?
[14:57] <sobersabre> myself: is it a service or a gui application ?
[14:57] <myself> its Transmission
[14:57] <myself> torrent program
[14:58] <sobersabre> I think kde has "autostart" in help.
[14:58] <sobersabre> so, kubuntu too should have it.
[14:58] <BluesKaj> myself, your nick is confusing the situation , try another one pls
[14:58] <myself> wheres help
[14:58] <sobersabre> myself: did you open help and found nothing ?
[14:58] <myself> this is my nick!! i am myself! this is me
[14:58] <sobersabre> what about myself. am I myself ?
[14:59] <BluesKaj> what if we all did that , then what , myself ?
[14:59] <sobersabre> anyway.... myself help should be in the main menu.
[15:00] <myself> okay thank you
[15:00] <myself> :)
[15:01] <sobersabre> or in konqueror, or in the system settings...
[15:01] <sobersabre> guys, does 4.2 source have debian folder so I could generate ubuntu packages out of it with dpkg-buildpackage ?
[15:02] <myself> why do i not have a search index for KDE help center and its missing or something?
[15:02] <myself> i mean w/ r/ t/ searching through hlp
[15:02] <myself> help
[15:03] <BluesKaj> help yourself
[15:03] <myself> yeah it says my um help files are missing or something?
[15:03] <myself> can i reinstall kubuntu help?
[15:05] <myself> hmm or it just took a little bit to find it, or something, wierd
[15:06] <sobersabre> if it's not available, I don't think it's installed.
[15:06] <sobersabre> so install it.
[15:06] <myself> how do i install it
[15:06] <myself> my problem is im trying to do an autostart
[15:07] <myself> well, it seems the rest of the stuff is there, but the autostart page is not availabe
[15:07] <myself> *available
[15:07] <myself> is there a way to help install a help index? that will help me with autostart? lol
[15:09] <sobersabre> myself: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=kde4+autostart&l=1
[15:09] <myself> >:)
[15:12] <Gentix> folks! I have installed grub during installation on the wrong drive. Can some one help me removing it and putting it on the correct drive??
[15:14] <BluesKaj> !grub
[15:18] <ForgeAus> I think I'll upgrade to Grub2... its a little more complex tho looking at it
[15:19] <Gentix> hrmmm. I'm afraid I have to get myself a windows cd
[15:19] <Gentix> I'll go and see what I can do. Thanx for trying to help!
[15:27] <myself> i want to delete a color theme in Color Settings in Apperance - System Settings, but it says I don't have permission, and when i kdesudo it I naturally get the root settings which don't even have the color theme i want to delete
[15:31] <velluto> hal
[15:39] <ngirard> Hi all. I'm desperately trying to make ekiga 2.9.90 work on kubuntu 8.04. All I get is the same error message : "Ekiga n'a pas réussi la configuration automatique des paramètres de votre réseau."
[15:39] <ngirard> I'm behind an adsl router ; on my machine the firewall is off
[15:39] <ngirard> I *think* I have the port forwarding correctly configured, though i'd be glad to check it out with someone here
[15:39] <ngirard> Here's the result of the command "iptables -t nat --list" on the adsl router:
[15:39] <ngirard> http://pastebin.com/d7d08f644
[15:39] <ngirard> What do you think ?
[15:43] <myself> anyone know where i can get a good widget  or know of a good widget for kubuntu, an RSS news thingie for the desktop, the one they have w / the package isnt good
[15:43] <bazhang> kde-look.org myself
[15:44] <myself> is there anything else, i looked there and they didnt have ones i liked, ,       :(
[15:47] <myself> i want deb packages too
[15:47] <myself> or something
[15:47] <myself> is there not a repository
[15:58] <Spyder_Snyper> wow...  lots of people here...
[15:59] <Spyder_Snyper> anyone here good with networking?
[16:00] <BluesKaj> aha , google chrome for Linux ! http://dev.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel
[16:00] <Kruxer> how can i install QtGlobal package?
[16:03] <Spyder_Snyper> hello???
[16:03] <Spyder_Snyper> then again, it IS still kinda early...  maybe not everyone is up yet...
[16:04] <myself> is there anywhere i can get like a deb package for an RSS desktop widget
[16:08] <myself> i love you
[16:10] <solid_liq> !ping
[16:16] <viable-tadesse_> how can I chagne my buffer size in gtkterm :)
[16:16] <Paulo39> hi ppl. i have ubuntu 9.04 with Gnome. But i add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main to my /etc/apt/sources.list because i want to have my amarok upgraded. my question is where do i get the public key for this repo?
[16:21] <ubuntu> hello
[16:21] <ubuntu> does anyone know how to install a windows program in kubuntu?
[16:21] <ubuntu> what about win tools_
[16:24] <|MaSa69|> ubuntu try wine
[16:26] <bazhang> he quit
[16:32] <SandGorgon> anybody using 64-bit (k)ubuntu, have any idea about Firefox+flash support?
[16:35] <agow> I have. all fine! Mediubuntu using. =)
[16:42] <tomsdale_> Does anyone know where the applications in KDE get their DNS server from?
[16:42] <tomsdale_> I'm trying to override this with my own dns server but they always pick the DHCP assigned also if I override /etc/resolv.conf
[16:44] <cysn0rk> should the kubuntu ppa be used on a productive system?
[16:45] <Dragnslcr> cysn0rk- if you mean production system, probably not, though it depends on exactly what you're trying to install from a PPA
[16:46] <cysn0rk> if i add the kubuntu ppa to my sources he offers me 82 updates
[16:51] <jussi01> cysn0rk: no.
[16:53] <cysn0rk> so the kubuntu ppa isn't just about bugfixes?
[16:53] <cysn0rk> i'm talking about 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main' btw
[17:14] <DrHalan> hey, is it stil common to have freezes in kde desktop effect even if compiz works under gnome?
[17:16] <Mamarok> DrHalan: DesktopEffects != Compiz...
[17:17] <codeguru> !ping
[17:25] <tomsdale> why does firefox or kde in general not take into account entries in the /etc/hosts for name resolution.
[17:25] <commander_> does anyone know how to switch virtual desktops or can i use compiz fusion settings on kubuntu
[17:25] <christian_> hello@all
[17:26] <Mamarok> commander_: check Desktop Effects
[17:27] <DrHalan> Mamarok: i know but because of that i think uits not releated to the graphics drivers
[17:27] <christian_> got an installation problem with java file, it quitted abrubtly the installation as i closed console window and i can't run it again: "Unable to accsess"; any suggestions?
[17:28] <Mamarok> DrHalan: which KDE version are you using?
[17:28] <commander_>  i did that. but say if i want to shift Quassel over to desktop 2 or 3 and every time i do that it put me back on desktop 1. i disabled the all effects that come with it
[17:28] <OutoLumo> i have a weird problem with kmail: in a certain mail account I cannot reply to mail.
[17:28] <mkargar> how to setting ADSL connections in the plasma-widget-network-manager?
[17:29] <DrHalan> Mamarok: its kubuntu 9.4 so it should be 4.2 afaik
[17:29] <Mamarok> DrHalan: well, there is 4.2.2 originally, but there have been two updates with bugfixes
[17:29] <DrHalan> whatever i swtiched desktop effects off
[17:29] <DrHalan> but the second thing is that kpackagekit doesn't list any packages but synaptic does...
[17:30] <Mamarok> DrHalan: you can use Synaptic if you prefer, as you have it installed already
[17:31] <DrHalan> Mamarok: its just that i didn't do a fresh install but installed kubuntu-desktop afterwards
[17:31] <mkargar> how to setting ADSL connections in the plasma-widget-network-manager?
[17:31] <DrHalan> but i want to get rid of the gnoem packages now
[17:32] <Mamarok> DrHalan: that doesn't matter, but make sure you have all KDE packages, as Kubuntu-desktop only gives you the basics
[17:32] <christian_> got an installation problem with java file: i startet routine with konsole, but it quitted abrubtly the installation as i closed konsole window and i can't run it again: "Unable to accsess"; any suggestions?
[17:33] <Mamarok> DrHalan: do you have space restrictions in your / partition?
[17:34] <DrHalan> Mamarok: nah not really
[17:34] <Mamarok> DrHalan: leave Gnome then, you do not have to remove it to use KDE correctly
[17:34] <rizzuh> I'm thinking of installing Kubuntu over Ubuntu, but some people mostly on the Internet, and a very good friend with loads of Linux experience say that it's pretty unstable, with frequent crashes. Anyone else having problems like this?
[17:34] <DrHalan> i know but it clutters the menu with unneeded apps
[17:35] <rizzuh> DrHalan, http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[17:35] <DrHalan> rizzuh: i personally prefer gnome mainly because of stability. in my eyes kde is easier to use. thats why i installed it on my lil brothers machine
[17:36] <rizzuh> Actually I feel like Gnome is too idiot-friendly and KDE being for the people who like more flexibility.
[17:36] <Mamarok> rizzuh: KDE 4.2 is pretty stable, and no crashes one couldn't solve
[17:37] <Mamarok> ok, off for some time, bbl
[17:38] <mkargar> how to setting ADSL connections in the plasma-widget-network-manager?please help me...!!
[17:45] <mkargar> how to setting ADSL connections in the plasma-widget-network-manager?please help me...!!
[17:57] <inferno_VFX> Hey can anyone help me write a shell script?
[17:58] <commander_> i use to bitch about kubuntu but 9.04 is the shiznit!!! i just need to do a few lil tweaks. can anyone help please?
[18:00] <inferno_VFX> commander what tweaks do you need
[18:07] <inferno_VFX> commander: what tweaks do you need help with
[18:08] <inferno_VFX> is anyone available to help me with a shell script?
[18:25] <shadeslayer> hi,every torrent manager i try either crashes or fails to write to my HD citing flush fails etc. help!
[18:26] <shadeslayer> all torrent managers had GUI...no CLI
[18:27] <mandingoceo> how do i know if my chipset are properly detected ?
[18:27] <inferno_VFX> shadeslayer did you try azureus
[18:28] <shadeslayer> mandingoceo: lspci and lsusb show alot of sysinfo
[18:28] <zoiss> hey guys. could anyone help me with pstricks installation?
[18:28] <shadeslayer> inferno_VFX: azureus,transmission,ktorrent
[18:28] <shadeslayer> deluge
[18:29] <shadeslayer> inferno_VFX: ktorrent and azureus give flush fails and the rest crash on their own
[18:29] <inferno_VFX> shadeslayer what filesystem are you using
[18:30] <shadeslayer> inferno_VFX: im downloading to a NTFS partition
[18:30] <shadeslayer> should i move it to ext4??
[18:31] <inferno_VFX> shadeslayer NTFS should have a high enough file limit
[18:31] <inferno_VFX> shadeslayer i was just making sure it wasnt fat32
[18:32] <shadeslayer> inferno_VFX: hmm...and its empty...only 10 GB filled of 170 GB
[18:32] <shadeslayer> inferno_VFX: oh ok
[18:32] <inferno_VFX> shadeslayer you need to make sure the directory where the files are being saved has the correct permissions set
[18:33] <inferno_VFX> I have azureus set to auto completion moving into my samba share folder
[18:33] <inferno_VFX> chmod 666 ~/balls/completedTorrentFolder
[18:34] <shadeslayer> inferno_VFX: well since i added the lines to fstab manually..maybe thats the problem??
[18:34] <inferno_VFX> what are your fstab options for that drive
[18:35] <shadeslayer> inferno_VFX: uh...i dont remember where my fstab was stored ><
[18:35] <mandingoceo> shadeslayer i had unknowns under lspci but updated the pciid list and now everything is seen does that mean the proper drivers are loaded for the chipsets or do i have to do more?
[18:35] <inferno_VFX> shadeslayer run sudo kate /etc/fstab
[18:35] <shadeslayer> mandingoceo: does anything _not_ work??
[18:36] <mandingoceo> dont think so
[18:36] <ibou> i have two update stoped by KPackageKit. Why ?
[18:36] <shadeslayer> inferno_VFX: http://pastebin.com/f54d62a60
[18:36] <shadeslayer> mandingoceo: then your good to go :)
[18:36] <ibou> updates are : mplayer-nogui and mencoder
[18:36] <shadeslayer> ibou: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:37] <shadeslayer> inferno_VFX: its the last line
[18:37] <ibou> shadeslayer: sweet it works
[18:38] <shadeslayer> ibou: no problem ;)
[18:38] <ibou> :)
[18:39]  * Peace- has made kubuntustudio
[18:39] <shadeslayer> ibou: just fyi..keep a list of commands such as these in a txt file in your desktop or try and remember them :)
[18:40] <ibou> yes i backup my bashhistory
[18:40] <ibou> shadeslayer: thx
[18:40] <inferno_VFX> shadeslayer change it to   /dev/sda7 /media/Data ntfs-3g user,auto,dev,sync,force,rw
[18:40] <Shura> Hi there
[18:40] <shadeslayer> inferno_VFX: are you _sure_ ??
[18:41] <inferno_VFX> shadeslayer yep. save a copy, change it, then sudo "mount -a"
[18:41] <shadeslayer> inferno_VFX: okie dokie
[18:42] <inferno_VFX> shadeslayer i meant "sudo mount -a" just incase you didnt get that =P
[18:42] <shadeslayer> inferno_VFX: of-course :)
[18:43] <shadeslayer> lets see now
[18:45] <shadeslayer> oh..btw any idea when kde 4.3 beta 2 will be released?? i thought it was going to be released today??
[18:47] <inferno_VFX> O.o i am too busy to keep up with that stuff. I only know that you can change your repositories and load Karmic Koala if you want
[18:47] <shadeslayer> inferno_VFX: you use vuze right?? whats the GUI like?? blue or white??
[18:47] <shadeslayer> inferno_VFX: hehehe
[18:48] <inferno_VFX> shadeslayer I do use vuze but I have custom guis everywhere. on plasma and kde and vuze
[18:48] <shadeslayer> inferno_VFX: well flush fails again
[18:49] <inferno_VFX> shadeslayer what are you trying to download and where
[18:49] <inferno_VFX> how big is the file
[18:49] <shadeslayer> inferno_VFX: quite big :)
[18:50] <shadeslayer> inferno_VFX: what if i move the file to my home folder??
[18:52] <inferno_VFX> shadeslayer, with azureus your .torrent file doesnt matter because azureus will copy it to a temp directory and save the download to another folder. you are most likely experiencing a permissions issue. you need to find out where azureus is trying to download the file
[18:53] <shadeslayer> inferno_VFX: oh..should i try chmod 666 ?
[18:54] <inferno_VFX> once you find that folder that its trying to save to. "sudo chmod 666 thatFolder"
[18:54]  * shadeslayer thinks its /tmp
[18:55] <inferno_VFX> the code 666 allows read and write access for everyone and should be used carefully for security reasons.
[18:55] <shadeslayer> ok..i just told it to move the thing to my home folder...hope it gets sorted
[18:55] <shadeslayer> inferno_VFX: ill be careful
[18:56] <inferno_VFX> you should configure azureus to download to a completely new folder. and set that to 666
[18:56] <inferno_VFX> i use /media/docTRSF/completed_torrents
[18:58] <nuri> jjj
[19:00] <shadeslayer> inferno_VFX: ok..
[19:03] <shadeslayer> inferno_VFX: i think large files are the problem...small files download just fine
[19:04] <shadeslayer> inferno_VFX: so far so good on ext4 :)
[19:06] <shadeslayer> ill tell it move the file after competion then :)
[19:09] <shadeslayer> inferno_VFX: how do you theme vuze??
[19:10] <inferno_VFX> tools>options>interface>colorScheme
[19:11] <shadeslayer> got it...thanks :)..btw vuze in windows looks way better :P
[19:23] <theo__> how do I disable the graphical bootscreen??
[19:24] <shadeslayer> theo__: usplash??
[19:24] <theo__> I believe so yes
[19:25] <shadeslayer> theo__: open /boot/grub/menu/lst and remove splash from the kernel boot line
[19:25] <theo__> I rather see the system messages
[19:25] <theo__> ah okay, thanx!
[19:25] <theo__> another question
[19:25] <shadeslayer> theo__: thats /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:25] <theo__> I do I get the nvidia splash screen back?
[19:25] <shadeslayer> theo__: shoot !
[19:26] <theo__> hrmm
[19:26] <shadeslayer> theo__: that will be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf , set nvidia logo option to true
[19:26] <theo__> I'm not such a violent guy ;)
[19:26] <theo__> I'll have a look at that one aswell, TOP
[19:27] <shadeslayer> top??
[19:28] <theo__> dutch expression ;)
[19:28] <shadeslayer> ah...
[19:28] <theo__> one final question.....
[19:28] <shadeslayer> sure
[19:29] <theo__> how do I get mp3 to work in 9.04? I knew how to do it in older versions....
[19:29] <shadeslayer> theo__: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras vlc
[19:30] <shadeslayer> !medibuntu | theo__ see this too
[19:31] <shadeslayer> its tommorow here :)
[19:31] <jared555> any ideas why when I installed a package a bunch of dependencies were installed, and when I removed it and tried apt-get autoremove those dependencies were not removed by either command?
[19:32] <shadeslayer> theo__: ubuntu-restricted-extras is a package which can help you play mp3's and vlc is a really good video/audio player :)
[19:32] <shadeslayer> jared555: maybe they are required by other programmes ?
[19:32] <theo__> I use vlc on my mac
[19:32] <theo__> works pretty good yeah
[19:33] <shadeslayer> theo__: oh...good then :)
[19:33] <jared555> shadeslayer: I thought so too but I almost immediately removed it.... I will check on my other system to see if i can replicate the issue, maybe I did install something else
[19:34] <shadeslayer> jared555: hehe...i have no other idea on that apart from what i suggested
[19:34] <jared555> shadeslayer: , thanks
[19:34] <shadeslayer> jared555: no probelm
[19:34] <shadeslayer> *problem
[19:35] <OutoLumo> Weird - it seems that this bug ISN'T fixed: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189464
[19:37] <OutoLumo> Despite the fact that it is sopposed to be fixed in KDE 4.2.4
[19:37] <shadeslayer> OutoLumo: better ask the devs in #kde
[19:37] <jared555> I know with centos you can prioritize repositores, restrict what packages will be retreived from each repositiry, etc. can that be done with kubuntu?
[19:38] <shadeslayer> jared555: i havent heard of such a feature till now
[19:39] <shadeslayer> jared555: but !google anyways :)
[19:39] <jared555> I know it was useful when using third party repositories when you only wanted certain packages or didn't want them overriding things like the kernel, etc.
[19:45] <jared555> well I think it is possible but it doesn't look like fun lol
[19:49] <OutoLumo> Okay, any kubuntu devs here?  it seems that https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189464  is fixed in vanilla KDE, but not kubuntu.
[19:52] <t3rminat0r> hi guys, does anyone know anything about squid
[19:53] <tonyf12> I have a VM running Kubuntu 9.04. My install disc is for 8.10. My internet is quite slow. Is it possible to burn an install disc from an existing installation without redownloading it? (My internet is quite slow)
[20:02] <jared555> how is ubuntu/kubuntu's virtualization compared to centos? I know ubuntu uses kvm and centos is xen.  I only have experience with xen so I could use some info from real world usage (not just benchmarks)
[20:04] <iphony> hello?
[20:05] <iphony> anyone know if there is something like 'network tool' for kubuntu?
[20:08] <iphony> anyone here????
[20:09] <iphony> hello?
[20:10] <iphony> is there a 'network tools' gnome equivalent for kde?
[20:12] <OutoLumo> just a sec
[20:13] <OutoLumo> What kind of network tools do you mean?
[20:18] <iphony> hello, outolumo
[20:19] <iphony> you know like in gnome....ping, netstat, traceroute...etc
[20:19] <OutoLumo> well, to be honest, I know those better from console ;)
[20:20] <iphony> konsole, you have to run one at a time....but with 'network tools' everyting is in one place, kind of like in mac
[20:20] <mtu> hey all. the "file sharing" control application doesn't appear in the system settings, and it doesn't work to call it from a folder's Properties menu
[20:21] <mtu> i get asked for my password for running kcmshell4 fileshare, but nothing happens
[20:21] <mtu> i can manually call kcmshell4 fileshare, but i shouldn't have to do that, right?
[20:21] <iphony> mtu, you have to install the samba packaage
[20:21] <mtu> iphony: it's installed
[20:22] <Shura> iphony : something like that http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/kNut?content=103729  ?
[20:24] <iphony> shura i doubt it, 'cause i just search for knut in adept and got something different
[20:25] <iphony> does anyone know if there's something like yast in kubuntu, not system settings
[20:28] <iphony> system settings barely has any modules for full system configuration
[20:28] <Arme> Hi.... I have strange problem with Kubuntu 9.04. I used to use Kubuntu 8.04 and all was OK. But know I see something like this: http://img216.yfrog.com/img216/4113/zrzucik3.png
[20:29] <Arme> Have anybody idea, how to fix it?
[20:29] <iphony> do a clean reinstall
[20:31] <iphony> i like ubuntu, but management and configuration tools are so disorganized, open suse is too slow my 2.4 ghz celeron
[20:38] <OutoLumo> iphony,  ksniffer?
[20:41] <iphony> no, i want a gui tool for ping, netsat, whois...all in one place like in mac
[20:43] <OutoLumo> iphony, try that knut. It's not in the repos, but you can download the deb from the site.
[20:47] <iphony> ok, just saw screenshots and didn't see a 'lookup' tab....you know nslookup, i can't live without that
[20:56] <shadeslayer> jared555: you there??
[20:57] <jared555> yes
[20:57] <shadeslayer> jared555: was your problem solved??
[20:57] <jared555> yeah, just trying to decide between centos+xen or ubuntu server+kvm now
[20:58] <shadeslayer> jared555: oh...i got a solution to ;)... run this :  sudo apt-get install deborphan; sudo apt-get --purge remove `deborphan`
[20:58] <shadeslayer> *too
[20:59] <jared555> shadeslayer: what?
[21:00] <shadeslayer> jared555: you wanted to remove unused dependecies right?? that command removes orphaned libraries and other irrelevant stuff
[21:01] <jared555> k. thanks
[21:01] <shadeslayer> jared555: i didnt quite remember the solution back then
[21:03] <uga|away> uh, one gotta believe that apt got to have better ways to clean cruft, other than installing and uninstalling virtual packages that handle it
[21:08] <inteliwasp> is there a known problem trying to use a 32bit os with a 64 bit quad core pc?
[21:12] <armagan> İ
[21:24] <avionix> hallo at all
[21:33] <ubuntu> v
[21:34] <ubuntu> salam alaikum
[21:37] <harolddong> can I ask questions about beta 2 here?
[21:37] <Unksi> harolddong: you mean karmic alpha 2?
[21:37] <Dragnslcr> If you mean 9.10, #ubuntu+1
[21:37] <harolddong> no kde 4.3 beta 2 for kubuntu
[21:38] <Dragnslcr> You can try, but there probably aren't many people here using it
[21:39] <iphony> does knut work on kde 4?
[21:39] <iphony> i can' t seem to be able to install it
[21:40] <togetic> i can't login using kdm
[21:40] <togetic> the computer just restarts kde and can't login
[21:40] <iphony> does anyone know how to add more modules for system settings?
[21:41] <iphony> geez, i think these linux progammers can learn a lot from microsoft...SIMPLICITY!
[21:42] <togetic> my tty screens won't respond to simple commands such as cd and ls so i'm thinking it has something to do with my PATH, suggestion
[21:46] <harolddong> well at any rate kopete and lancelot are taking up gobs of cpu with the 4.3 beta 2 packages.  any other beta 2 users having that problem?
[21:59] <JuJuBee> Anybody able to get Quicken Deluze 2009 running in wine?
[21:59] <JuJuBee> Or know of a good alternative that has equivalent features?  I want to connect to banks and download my transactions as I do in Q 2009.
[22:07] <Simon99> Has anyone managed to get GMailFS to work in Kubuntu 9.04 ?
[22:07] <Guest82026> somehow I borked up my konsole settings, so that the paper, light style no longer works
[22:07] <Guest82026> how can I get it back?
[22:08] <milo_> does anyone know how to change a laptop IP address?
[22:10] <Simon99> Halbert:  have you tried  Settings > Edit Current Profile > Appearance ?
[22:11] <halberd> from where simon99
[22:11] <halberd> I don't see an edit current profile option in the settings menu of konsole
[22:11] <Simon99> Halbert:  Which version of Kubuntu are you using?
[22:12] <halberd> 8.04
[22:12] <czarek> yo yo
[22:12] <halberd> kde release 3.5.10
[22:12] <czarek> i am new in da house
[22:13] <iphony> please help, if you know about a system configuration tool like yast for kubuntu, let me know
[22:13] <czarek> anyone from poland???
[22:13] <iphony> what kind of land?
[22:14] <iphony> i know about england but not poland
[22:14] <why_the_hell> So I'm trying to convert a video and I can't find a single video conversion tool in the respositories
[22:14] <why_the_hell> I'm having to use ffmpeg -i from the command line
[22:14] <why_the_hell> this is pathetic
[22:15] <Simon99> why_the_hell: Have a look at VLC Media Player.
[22:16] <why_the_hell> vlc is great for playing videos but can it convert them?
[22:16] <iphony> simon, i need a progam to let me scan from my hp all-in-one printer
[22:17] <Simon99> why_the_hell: I have VLC 0.9.9
[22:17] <Simon99> If you go to Media > Convert/Save, and take it from there.
[22:18] <ceekey> help
[22:18] <ceekey>  o sorry :)
[22:18] <why_the_hell> cool, does anyone know of any others?
[22:18] <Simon99> iphony: Try SANE/XSANE
[22:19] <why_the_hell> also, why the hell doesn't it show up when you search in kpackageit?
[22:19] <Simon99> why_the_hell:  'cause it's crap.
[22:19] <Simon99> use synaptic, instead.
[22:20] <Simon99> Anyone got GMailFS to work in Kubuntu 9.04?
[22:22] <why_the_hell> synaptic's a little dangerous, I preferred Adept with the categories in the left margin-don't understand why they dropped it
[22:24] <iphony> thanx simon, will try it see how it is...i think package managers should include screenshots
[22:24] <iphony> ok, now i need a yast like tool for kubuntu
[22:25] <halberd> how can I get scrollback in konsole?
[22:25] <Simon99> why_the_hell:  I wasn't aware there's a problem with Synaptic.  I've used it for nearly 3 years.  Also look for "pakagesearch".
[22:25] <halberd> is it possible to have konsole scrollback?
[22:26] <Dragnslcr> !info skanlite | iphony
[22:27] <iphony> thanx, will try that too...see how things go, any luck with yast like config thinggy?
[22:28] <togetic> alright so... still unresolved
[22:29] <togetic> rebooting
[22:30] <nomercy> ciao
[22:36] <iphony> also, does anyone know if there's way to have kubuntu mark newly installed programs on the start menu?
[22:36] <Simon99> Hi all.  Has anyone got GMailFS to work in Kubuntu 9.04? I keep getting stupid errors.
[22:39] <iphony> ...combine windows simplicity with linux stability and wars wouldn't be fought anymore!
[22:41] <swatto> how can DVDs be played on kubuntu please? keep getting error from VLC and it wont play anything
[22:42] <LadyNikon> swatto: whats the error.
[22:42] <swatto> LadyNikon: VLC is undable to open the MRL
[22:42] <swatto> unable**
[22:44] <togetic> sorry for being impatient earlier, my friend was here and i wanted this computer fixed so i could show him a few things, he's gone now. so i have time, but not much... anyone know what's going on. why isn't ls, cd, apt-get or any commands working, including my window managers
[22:45] <bjb1959> everytime I reboot I loose sound on everything except system sounds unless I log out, boot into gnome, log out and boot into kde 4.2.2 any idea why?
[22:52] <swatto> LadyNikon: Its ok I solved it, had to install libdvdcss2
[22:53] <LadyNikon> swatto: awesome
[23:08] <swatto> Ive got libdvdcss2 installed but just tried playing Bourne DVD and I recieve the following errors: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/122140/
[23:09] <bjb1959> everytime I reboot I need to killall pulseaudio to get sound back any idea why?
[23:09] <ign0ramus> swatto, did you check the log?
[23:09] <ign0ramus> bjb1959, do you have pulseaudio set as your preferred sound 'device'?
[23:11] <ign0ramus> swatto, do you also have "libdvdcss2-dev" installed as well?
[23:11] <bjb1959> ign0ramus.  no I don't
[23:12] <ign0ramus> bjb1959, pulseaudio has a nasty habit of trying to take over the sound system, but kde in general doesn't need it.  of course, if you're running gnome, there may be a problem...
[23:12] <nassrat> join #apache
[23:13] <bjb1959> Can I just uninstall pulseaudio?
[23:14] <ign0ramus> bjb1959, yes.
[23:14] <shadeslayer> bjb1959: sure..theres another alternative out there , but is not recommended
[23:14] <ign0ramus> bjb1959, i'm not sure, but afaik, gnome doesn't require it, either.  sound and mixing should still be done through alsa
[23:16] <bjb1959> ign0ramus.  is it sudo aptitude --purge pulseaudio?
[23:17] <ign0ramus> bjb1959, not sure for aptitude, but you can use "apt-get purge"
[23:17] <bjb1959> thanks
[23:17] <ign0ramus> np
[23:18] <ign0ramus> bjb1959, i've actually just done the same, as i've been experiencing minor audio issues too (all related to PA)
[23:18] <ign0ramus> restarting X now. brb
[23:20] <ign0ramus> hmm... i just purged pulseaudio and restarted X, but I still have it listed in System Settings (testing it still works), and i still get notifications about pulseaudio falling back to my card...
[23:21] <miramar> alguem sabe se tem como eu ver que versao do linux estou usando por comando..........
[23:21] <shadeslayer> ign0ramus: try a restart
[23:21] <shadeslayer> !es | miramar
[23:21] <ign0ramus> shadeslayer, seems like the only other option
[23:21] <ign0ramus> brb rebooting
[23:22] <miramar> sim
[23:22] <miramar> ah ta
[23:22] <miramar> qual que é bom p\ mim
[23:23] <shadeslayer> miramar: hi,this is a english only channel,please could you state your native language so that we can re direct you?
[23:24] <ign0ramus> shadeslayer, hmmm... still listed, and still works
[23:24] <ign0ramus> Mamarok, you there?
[23:24] <shadeslayer> \o/
[23:24] <harjot> ign0ramus: how long are you there 4??
[23:25] <harjot> shadeslaayer ur on uqite a bit 2
[23:25] <ign0ramus> harjot, i'll be here for another 45 mins or so
[23:25] <harjot> ur like alioways on
[23:25] <ign0ramus> harjot, you're using konversation... do you know you can tab-autocomplete people's nicks so you don't typo?
[23:26] <harjot> really ty
[23:26] <harjot> ign0ramus: what so i start typing then hit tab sweet
[23:26] <ign0ramus> harjot, if you type "ign" and hit the tab key, it will autocomplete my nick for you
[23:27] <shadeslayer> harjot: yes,and if i guess correctly youre a punjabi :)
[23:27] <harjot> does any1 know whether flightgear works on intel chipset i.e gm965
[23:27] <ign0ramus> harjot, no idea.
[23:27] <shadeslayer> !intel | harjot
[23:28] <harjot> shadeslayer: how did u guess??? btw im sikh but my native laungguage is punjabi
[23:28] <harjot> yes 8.04 still has some as well as 9.04
[23:28] <shadeslayer> harjot: im in gurgaon :)
[23:28] <harjot> shadeslayer: i dont know what that means
[23:29] <shadeslayer> never mind
[23:29] <harjot> omg flightgear works IT WOEKS
[23:29] <harjot> shadeslayer: im only a 12 year old child
[23:29] <shadeslayer> \0/....
[23:29] <harjot> lol
[23:30] <harjot> w8 a sec let me try and fly flightgear
[23:30] <ign0ramus> harjot, it's in the repos, i would hope it works ;)
[23:31] <harjot> it does
[23:31] <shadeslayer> harjot: of course it does ;)
[23:32] <ign0ramus> harjot, it's been in the repos since at least Dapper, and even with the terrible Intel support, it should still work
[23:32] <ign0ramus> harjot, have you tried the Intel Performance guide listed above? It's a godsend for those of us with Intel graphics :)
[23:33] <JuJuBee> I have a winxp dirve that I mount in linux, can I mount that into a vm running on top of linux?
[23:33] <shadeslayer> JuJuBee: nope..since a VM uses seprate HD's
[23:34] <ign0ramus> JuJuBee, which vm are you using?
[23:34] <JuJuBee> hmmm.  that stinks.
[23:34] <JuJuBee> using vmserver at moment to create a vm with xp64
[23:34] <JuJuBee> Want to get at some data on my xp drive
[23:34] <JuJuBee> quicken specifically.
[23:35] <harjot> ign0ramus: is it 4 8.04?
[23:35] <JuJuBee> Want  to be able to use quicken if logged into linux or windows
[23:35] <ign0ramus> harjot, if you installed it through the repos, it is appropriate for your version
[23:36] <ign0ramus> JuJuBee, i don't know the details, but apparently, you can run a Linux partition using Vbox from Windows, so I would imagine its possible.  Source: http://www.ltyer.com/wordpress/tutorial-boot-existing-ubuntu-partition-using-virtualbox-inside-windows
[23:37] <harjot> ign0ramus: i meant the intel perfomanvce giuide
[23:38] <ign0ramus> harjot, well, the thread is titled: "HOWTO: Jaunty Intel Graphics Performance Guide" ... so what do you think? :)
[23:38] <ign0ramus> harjot, if you're using 8.04, you won't be experiencing the heavy intel performance regressions of jaunty
[23:38] <harjot> ign0ramus: nope im dumb i cant read [sarcasim every1 laughs]
[23:39] <harjot> ign0ramus: it still doesnt work with all programs does it??
[23:39] <ign0ramus> harjot, doesn't what work?
[23:39] <max_> How can i run a check on an ISO to make sure it is ok?
[23:40] <shadeslayer> !md5 | max_
[23:41] <harjot> ign0ramus: just some apps never mind i consult when i have a prblem [ihave done in the oast wiv intel graphics]
[23:42] <ign0ramus> harjot, pretty much all apps in Jaunty (and kde 4 in general) 'work' in varying degrees
[23:43] <ign0ramus> yes... xorg-edgers PPA just updated :)
[23:43] <max_> Does anyone know what would cause several cds (made from different iso's) not work on a bran-new HP laptop? Ive been trying to install Kubuntu9.04(kde3 remix) to install, but when it boots up to the disk, no matter what option i check it just freezes. It also does this with any 64bit version(the hp has a 64bit amd processor in it) and it also freezes with the kubuntu 8.10 disk.
[23:44] <ign0ramus> max_, do the discs work on any other computer?
[23:44] <shadeslayer> max_: i hope you didnt burn via brasero?
[23:44] <max_> ign0ramus: yes, they do.
[23:44] <max_> shadeslayer: no, k3b.
[23:44] <shadeslayer> max_: thank god :)
[23:44] <ign0ramus> max_, then maybe a hardware issue.  what model lappy?
[23:44] <Serpardum> have you tried any other CDs in the disk to make srue teh CD player is working?
[23:45] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, good thinking :)
[23:45] <max_> Serpardum: yes, it installs the kde4 version of 9.04 just fine (but its INCREDIABLY slow) and i installed 8.04 (which im on right now)
[23:45] <max_> ign0ramus: just a second and ill find out.
[23:46] <Serpardum> are you by chance trying to install a 64 bit os in a 32 bit computer?
[23:46] <max_> ign0ramus: G60-244DX
[23:46] <shadeslayer> i have to reboot....all my uptime of 4 days lost...gone... :'(
[23:46] <shadeslayer> poof!
[23:46] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, he said it has an amd64 cpu in it...
[23:46] <shadeslayer> bye all
[23:46] <max_> Serpardum: and in addition to the 64 bit's not working, several of the 32bit versions hang also.
[23:47] <Serpardum> Hmm... I think I'd return it and get a new one.
[23:47] <max_> Serpardum: It was a gift, so i cant.
[23:47] <Serpardum> you said it was new?
[23:47] <max_> Yes.
[23:48] <Serpardum> Just ask the gifter to exchange it for yout hen
[23:48] <Serpardum> "You gave me a broken ass computer!  Take it back and give me a new one!"  :D  Little more polite of course.
[23:48] <max_> Serpardum: I can't. And i doubt they would take a return on it since ive already wiped Vista off of it and such.
[23:49] <Serpardum> you formated their restore partition?
[23:49] <max_> Yes.
[23:49] <Serpardum> Just tell them it came like that ^^
[23:49] <gabriel_> I did that too, but I habe the restore disks
[23:49] <Serpardum> The fact is, it's broken
[23:49] <gabriel_> have
[23:49] <max_> Serpardum: i dont believe it is.
[23:49] <Serpardum> I've had compouters that wouldn't install some OSes but would others
[23:49] <max_> Ive googled around, and several people seem to have this problem.
[23:49] <Serpardum> turns out they were broken
[23:50] <max_> And vista ran just find on it.
[23:50] <gabriel_> what kind of computer
[23:50] <ign0ramus> max_, i don't think it's broken, but isn't the Jaunty KDE 3 remix an unsupported version?
[23:50] <max_> HP G60-244DX
[23:50] <Serpardum> are you sure teh linux on teh CDs are good writes?
[23:51] <gabriel_> essential drivers for things like videocards cometimes don't allow installing certain os
[23:51] <gabriel_> laptop?
[23:51] <max_> ign0ramus: Im not sure. But thats not the only cd that wont install correctly.
[23:51] <max_> Serpardum: yes, they work on other computers
[23:51] <max_> gabriel_: yes
[23:51] <ign0ramus> gabriel_, that's why i'm thinking it may be a hardware issue, but others have had success installing (k)ubuntu on the same model
[23:51] <gabriel_> try downloading and installing the dvd iso it is better cause it's like 10 gigs uncompressed
[23:52] <max_> Why does it being larger make it better?
[23:52] <gabriel_> because there are more drivers available or something it just works better...
[23:52] <trappist> the size implies that it has more software on it that you won't have to download later
[23:52] <shadeslayer> whats the VGA number for a 1440X900 resolution screen?? 864 ?
[23:53] <gabriel_> none idea shadeslayer
[23:53] <max_> It hangs immediately upon the title screen. At the "try kubuntu" "install kubuntu" "check cd" etc etc.
[23:53] <gabriel_> u working with xserver config?
[23:53] <gabriel_> that sounds like a bad cd to me
[23:54] <shadeslayer> gabriel_: nope....grub kernel line...the new 180.44 nvidia drivers added a vga option,now i can get a tty in 1440X900 without hangs on hibernate
[23:54] <max_> The cds work on other computer. And they verify after burn on k3b checked out fine.
[23:54] <gabriel_> even with a good checksum the burn can to disk can be corrupted.  seems worse when burnt from windows platform
[23:54] <shadeslayer> *resuming from hibernate
[23:54] <gabriel_> i mean microcoft
[23:55] <ign0ramus> max_, have you tried an Alternate Install CD?
[23:55] <Zorael> shadeslayer: grab hwinfo from the repos, and do sudo hwinfo --framebuffer
[23:55] <max_> ign0ramus:
[23:55] <max_> ign0ramus: No, i havent
[23:55] <shadeslayer> ok
[23:55] <gabriel_> oh I don't have nvidia anymore intel stuff now.  wish I still did though nvidia good stuff
[23:55] <Zorael> shadeslayer: it'll show you the available modes in hex, so 0x301, etc
[23:56] <ign0ramus> max_, that should get you past the gui freeze-up at least, and maybe you can troubleshoot a little more that way.  just an option...
[23:56] <gabriel_> what are repos?
[23:56] <max_> ign0ramus: ill give that a try.
[23:56] <ign0ramus> !repos | gabriel_
[23:56] <Zorael> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[23:56] <max_> ign0ramus: you wouldnt happen to know how to install kde3.5 from a normal 9.04 install would you?
[23:56] <gabriel_> oh coulda just said repositories lol
[23:57] <Zorael> repos, repositories, software sources, take your pick. :3
[23:57] <ign0ramus> max_, honestly no.  i seriously considered it when i first installed Jaunty, but now at 4.2.4 and i'm happy enough to keep it
[23:57] <togetic> alright, so my problem was that after typing my username and password in kdm, i wasn't logged, i was returned to the kdm login screen, so then i went to a tty screen to figure out what's going on, but i can't even use common commands like ls, cd, and vim. i've rebooted into a live cd and chrooted into the computer, the output of echo $PATH looks fine: /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/shar
[23:58] <max_> ign0ramus: id give it a try, but when i installed 9.04 on here it ran incredibly slow, and i just assumed kde4 had something to do with it, because 8.04 runs just great.
[23:58] <gabriel_> cool togetic what's chrooted mean?
[23:58] <ign0ramus> max_, most likely because of your intel graphics, but there's workarounds for that
[23:59] <ign0ramus> !chroot | gabriel_
[23:59] <max_> ign0ramus: its got an nvidia card in it.
[23:59] <togetic> gabriel_: i'm guessing short for "change root"
[23:59] <togetic> that's a better def.
[23:59] <max_> well chipset i suppose, since its a laptop
[23:59] <ign0ramus> max_, oh, someone said they now had intel... thought it was you. sorry
[23:59] <gabriel_> cool !chroot |gabriel
[23:59] <gabriel_> oopse
[23:59] <gabriel_> !chroot | gabriel