=== Being_Tsukasa is now known as StephanHarper === StephanHarper is now known as Being_Tsukasa [00:18] I run kate in konsole, open file, edit, save, close kate. "KCrash: Application 'kate' crashing... sock_file=/hime/jim/.kde/socket-ubuntu/kdeinit4__0 [00:18] hi [00:18] what can I do to find out what's wrong? It has done this for a while [00:18] hi. Im on jaunty. After i installed wicd i reinstalled plasma-widget-network-manager but now i have to start NetworkManager with a 'sudo NetworkManager' in the console. How to start it at start up? [00:19] it has to be added to one of the inits [00:19] I dont' know which one though [00:19] one of the inits ? [00:20] hi [00:20] hi [00:20] see if this thread helps you: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1063788.html [00:20] im a newbie in linux and i need some help [00:20] ... [00:21] ... [00:21] Serpardum: not really. But thx [00:21] while trying to install and configure vpnc for my laptop i think i messed up [00:21] it looks like /etc/rc.local file may help you [00:21] sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers === jan is now known as Guest91514 [00:22] milo__, did you edit that file? [00:22] i think so [00:22] and that's the whole problem [00:22] well, paste your file in the pasting bin [00:23] the file I edited? [00:23] http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [00:23] yes, your sudoers file [00:24] do i need to be root to have access to it? if yes i can't because i can't be even root actually [00:24] you use kate? sudo kate [00:24] in konsole [00:24] Serpardum: not really again. But thanks again ^ [00:24] there is another way but it's like wtf [00:24] no. visudo [00:24] sudo visudo [00:25] yup [00:25] type sudo visudo then you'll have acces to it in visudo [00:25] ok let me try [00:26] sudoers file: syntax error, line 24 <<< [00:26] sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 24 [00:26] this is the err im getting [00:26] milo__, did you paste it? [00:26] we have to see what's on line 24 to tell you what's wrong. WE're not psychic [00:26] do you want me to paste the err message? [00:27] where do i get kate extensions? === jan is now known as Guest8846 [00:27] do this: run konsole. type: sudo visudo /etc/sudoers [00:27] does anyone know an editor better than kate? [00:27] heh) [00:27] ok [00:27] copy teh file to the clipboard. open the clipboard link. paste it. [00:28] eMyller: there are a few [00:28] you might find some in apt-cache [00:28] Serpardum: editor? any example? [00:28] same message. [00:28] pico [00:28] milo__ PASTE THE FILE TO THE PASTEING BIN SO WE CAN SEE IT [00:29] which file? The one i edited in vim? [00:29] /etc/sudoers [00:30] eMyller: type in konsole apt-get update [00:30] then do apt-cache search editor [00:30] tons of editors [00:31] zim, xemacs, nedit, yudit, etc.. [00:31] pasted. [00:32] im getting permission denied when i try /etc/sudoers [00:32] what's the link milo__? [00:32] to the paste you pasted? [00:33] copy the url and paste it here [00:33] http://paste.ubuntu.com/191204/ [00:33] that's the error. we need you to paste the /etc/sudoers line. [00:33] Listen closely. run konsole [00:33] type: sudo kate /etc/sudoers [00:34] copy that text on the right. [00:34] go to the pasting bin [00:34] paste it. [00:34] give us the link [00:34] ok [00:35] reminds me of when I used to do help desk :D [00:36] Serpardum: okay, but are they better than kate? extensible? [00:37] I think im missing something because when i follow closely your instructions, all i get is the same message error i pasted. [00:37] milo__: http://pastebin.com/ [00:38] milo__: you see the file open on the right? hight light it all, click on it and ctrl-a is easist, then right click and "copy to clipboard" [00:40] nope. Didn't see any file; just the webpage. [00:41] im lost! [00:43] open konsole [00:43] tell me when you did htat [00:43] reset [00:43] done [00:44] in konsole type: sudo kate /etc/sudoers [00:44] tell me when you've done that [00:44] done. [00:44] it asked you for your password? did you type in your password? [00:45] if it asks for password type it in. Did kate open? [00:45] it didn't ask for my password but it rather output the error message [00:46] it's where im having trouble [00:46] it output the syntax error ? [00:46] exactly [00:46] what error message did it output in konsle [00:46] did it say sudoers file: syntax error, line 24 <<< [00:46] ? [00:46] hey guys ... any way to get extract here right click for desktop pacakges? [00:46] >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 24 <<< [00:46] sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 24 [00:46] where does it say that, in konsole? [00:47] okay, fine, we'll have to try pico then I guess. pico's a bit ugly [00:47] you'll probably need to get it. [00:47] just after I typed the command [00:47] sudo apt-get install pico [00:47] ok [00:47] oh, shit [00:47] pardon my french [00:47] yeah, here's the problem [00:47] that sudoers file tells the system who can do sudo [00:47] nano/pico is installed by default. [00:48] and you can't sudo if it's messed up [00:48] and you need to sudo to edit it. [00:48] wow. umm. [00:48] You can boot into recovery mode to modify it or use a live-cd [00:48] yeah, try booting into recovery mode and editing yoru screwed up line 24 [00:49] actually, I don't have the live-cd with me [00:49] pico is a text based editor [00:49] try booting into recovery mode then [00:49] but i can use the recov' mode [00:49] And you should really use visudo to modify the sudoers file [00:50] what are the steps to take once into recov' mode? [00:51] ?? [00:52] Serpardum- first, never use sudo for GUI programs, always use kdesudo. Second, there's no need to install pico when nano is installed by default [00:53] milo__- when you boot into recovery mode, you'll be root, so you can fix the sudoers file with just "visudo" [00:54] ok. I think i needto remove the line i added, right? [00:55] if that's all so...i'll try it and be back === Paraselene__ is now known as Paraselene_ === Being_Tsukasa is now known as InvalidParameter [01:09] what's the difference between sudo and kdesudo? [01:09] sudo is for shell commands, kdesudo is for KDE programs [01:10] !kdesudo [01:10] In KDE use « kdesudo » (or « kdesu » for Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! | See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to find out why [01:11] Hmm.. that's probably how I broke kate then [01:11] that link says that kate won't even run with sudo, although it does for me. but now it always crashes on exit [01:12] I wonder if uninstalling kate and reinstalling woudl fix that [01:18] hey everyone [01:18] anyone able to troubleshoot java issues with an app im trying to install? [01:18] nope, still crashes. dang [01:19] Well, I've backed up my data to my windows drive, so I"ll just recreate teh virtualbox for kubuntu I guess [01:19] hmm === InvalidParameter is now known as Being_Tsukasa [01:43] wow... I just installed kubuntu after 8 months with ubuntu, and I'm SO much more impressed with the new KDE. the eye candy (even without compiz) and ability to configure *everything* amazes me. [01:44] The effects in KDE4 are pretty nice [01:44] KDE has been "more configurable" than Gnome for a while now. It's a hard trade-off between being flexible and being too complicated [01:48] yes. when I first switched from Windows to Linux about 8 months ago, I was "told" that KDE is somehow more buggy than gnome, so I decided to use gnome. hopefully the guy was wrong and I gonna enjoy KDE as much as I can. [01:48] Every desktop environment has it's idiosyncrasies [01:58] hey! Im back [01:58] wb === k4v is now known as m4v [02:00] im still having a problem [02:01] when i try sudo bash, i get this:milo is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported [02:01] milo is my username [02:02] what is the user u created when u installed ur system ? [02:04] milo [02:06] milo__: echo 'zodehala ALL=(ALL) ALL' >> /etc/sudoers [02:06] sorry [02:06] milo__: echo 'milo ALL=(ALL) ALL' >> /etc/sudoers [02:07] ok, let me try [02:08] milo__: did it work? [02:08] "permission denied!" [02:08] ok [02:08] try the following [02:08] su - [02:08] visudo [02:09] add this line to the file: milo ALL=(ALL) ALL [02:09] :wq [02:11] ok [02:11] You probably need to boot into recovery mode to get root access [02:12] Yup [02:12] su won't work since no default root pw. [02:12] If your only normal user isn't in the sudoers file, that's basically your only option [02:12] ops i fogot that genii [02:12] hi to all from mexico [02:12] "Authentication failure" for su - [02:13] what shld i do now? [02:13] sudo -s [02:13] you'll have to reboot into single-user mode, and execute usermod [02:13] directly from root [02:14] milo__: Boot to recovery mode. Then do as before the suggested: echo "milo ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers [02:14] b0nn: His prob is he's not in sudoers file. eg: catch-22 [02:15] is this enough ? you'll have to reboot into single-user mode, and execute usermod [02:15] directly from root [02:15] sorry [02:15] root ALL=(ALL) ALL <-- is this enough ? [02:16] ok. I can have access to the sudoers file from the recov' mode [02:16] cause i can see my user in sudoers but i can sudo [02:16] i cant see my user in sudoers i mean [02:17] Alguem poderia me dar uma ajuda com uma instalação de placa Nvidia ? [02:17] ahmad_: Thats because the default user is an admin. And the line: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL allows you to sudo [02:17] !br | flavio_ [02:17] flavio_: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado. [02:17] opa desculpa cara.. obrigado pelo aviso =] [02:18] #ubuntu-br [02:18] flavio_: eg: /join #ubuntu-br [02:18] genii: if i add username ALL=(ALL) ALL this will override %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL ? [02:18] ahmad_: It will also introduce a massive security problem [02:19] then milo__ should not add the line i gave him [02:19] he should add %admin [02:19] ahmad_: The best current solution is to add his name to sudoers. Then to boot into regular, add himself to admin group, remove his specific name from sudoers [02:20] aha i got it now thanx genii [02:20] yes yes! how and where shld i add my name? [02:20] milo__: As before the suggested: echo "milo ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers [02:21] at the top? [02:21] milo__: The command given just adds the needed info without having to enter some editor [02:22] im a bit lost. so i don't need to be in the recov' mode before entering the command you gave me? [02:22] just from the konsole? [02:23] no milo__ u have to be in recovery mode to run this command [02:23] or boot with LiveCD [02:23] cool [02:23] run the command then add ur self to admin group [02:23] milo__: "recovery mode" puts you into a console. Enter that echo command in there. You choose the recovery mode during boot. Hit ESC when grub starts, choose recovery, etc etc [02:23] after that u have to remove the line u added to sudoers file [02:25] ok. I've already removed the line i added [02:25] i will try the comand u gave me [02:28] !brb [02:28] Sorry, I don't know anything about brb [02:28] hhihhih. I will be right back [02:28] :D [02:35] i am trying to read my ubuntu partition in xp on the same comp and explore2fs works but isnt satisfactory, but ext2ifs isnt working. it detects the drives, assigns them letters, but windows tells me that the drives are not formated [02:36] nonewmsgs: its not really the best idea to give windows access to the linux partitions. Windows tends to screw things up like that [02:37] lee8oi, while i realize this, this machine seems to be more of a windows box than a linux box [02:37] nonewmsgs: ya that happens. if ext2fs addon for windows doesn't do it, then I'm not sure. might be best to get the files you need put onto a flash drive [02:39] !ext3 [02:39] ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org [02:39] The one above is recommended [02:39] handy to have [02:39] pretty much a factoid...is that a supybot? [02:39] Yup [02:39] ahh ok [02:39] oh duh i found it in the troubleshooting [02:40] cool supybots rock if you know python pretty well [02:40] apparantly i didnt cleantly unmount it [02:40] nonewmsgs: that can do it [02:40] happens with flash drives too. if you dont' remove it properly in windows, won't work right in linux [02:40] sometimes [02:41] flash drives always complain when i go from linux to windows about not being cleanly umounted [02:41] at least th sandisks do [02:42] ya not from linux TO windows.....just from windows to linux [02:44] nonewmsgs: Thats why you want to issue something like: sudo sync && sudo umount /dev/whatever && sudo eject /dev/whatever [02:44] And if from Windows then "safely eject device" from that icon in the tray [02:45] oooooo you do both at the same time. i always got confuzzled by that. i would eject without umounting or umount without ejecting [02:49] yup ext2ifs is working fine now! [02:57] hi everyone [02:58] hi [02:58] hi [02:58] milo__: did it work? [02:58] im new here in irc...umm what is that word...oh yeah noob! :P [02:58] yes i think it worked! [02:59] so u can sudo now ? [02:59] but i still have permision denied when i try visudo [02:59] yes i can sudo [02:59] milo__: sudo cat /etc/sudoers [02:59] copy me at private [02:59] Use pastebin please [03:00] do u want to take a look at the sudoers file? [03:00] yea please [03:00] ok [03:02] http://pastebin.com/m7ca53a3a here is the URL [03:02] milo__: The idea is that we made the username of milo specifically allowed to use sudo. But the proper way is now to add your name into the group of "admin" and then remove the line we added before in the sudoers file if the line: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL exists there already [03:03] wow so many members online and so few to chat with :( [03:03] sorry dude [03:03] :D [03:03] wait [03:03] aditya_: For casual chat please use #kubuntu-offtopic [03:03] the %admin line is missing [03:04] ahmad_: Yes [03:04] milo__: Please also pastebin result of command: groups [03:04] aditya: go to DALnet for chat [03:05] genii: I don't really understand [03:05] milo__: sudo groups [03:05] aditya_: I do not accept Private Messages. [03:06] thanks guys [03:06] "root" is the output [03:06] milo__: Go into Konsole, and then type: groups this will tell us if you already are in the admin group. [03:06] he is [03:06] got "root" [03:06] milo__: If the only group you belong to is "root" then something is severely screwed. Unless you are still in Recovery Console [03:07] result of command: groups on my box: user adm disk dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin admin mythtv [03:08] milo__: groups [03:08] im not in recov' mode anymore [03:08] genii: its my mistake not his [03:09] ahmad_: Did you tell him to do something like usermod to add into a goup, without using the -a switch for Apped and not Replace? [03:09] *Append [03:09] Hello all. I seem to keep having my USB and Internet give out at random times. I SSH, it kills my Internet almost instantly. I try to copy something form my USB, it dies around 10MB of transfer. [03:09] no geniii asked him to sudo groups :D [03:10] that will show root only for sure [03:10] ahmad_: Hehe, makes sense now [03:10] How can I find out what is happening with my USB and Internet connection? [03:10] milo__: run this command without sudo : groups [03:10] only "groups"? [03:10] yes milo__ [03:11] ok [03:11] milo adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare [03:12] it's the output [03:12] ok try this out [03:12] ahmad_ , milo__ Good... just need to add the admin line to sudoers now and remove the milo-specific one [03:12] Then things will be back to normal operation [03:13] sudo echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers [03:13] i hope so [03:13] genii: u know how to run mythtv ? [03:13] ahmad_: Yes [03:14] ahmad_: That command won't work [03:14] please help me with it [03:14] why not ? [03:14] which command? [03:14] ahmad's? [03:14] milo__: sudo echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers [03:14] That won't work. It needs admin access to do the >> /etc/sudoers part [03:15] 1 sec I'll write the correct command [03:15] ok [03:15] in this case he need to go to recovery mode again ? [03:15] milo__: echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" | sudo tee -a /etc/sudoers [03:15] ahmad_: Nope [03:15] ah i see now why it wont work [03:15] ahmad_: :) [03:16] nice trick though [03:16] tee the output [03:17] genii: would u help me to run mythtv ? [03:17] what's that bar be4 sudo? [03:17] ahmad_: I'm not a MythTV expert :) [03:18] milo__: That bar is called a "pipe" . On english keyboards usually it's above the Enter key [03:18] what was the name of the "other" irc client? I thought it was kommunicator but apt-get doesn't seem to find that [03:18] Serpardum: There are a *lot* of irc clients [03:18] the one that is similar to kommunicator? [03:18] name wise? [03:18] Serpardum: Quassel, Xchat ,Konversation [03:18] ... [03:19] konversation! that's it, thanks [03:19] hahhaa [03:19] Serpardum: Welcome [03:20] milo__: So after that line gets added, need to remove the line which we added earlier from recovery mode. [03:20] milo__: For this, you can do: kdesudo kate /etc/sudoers and use Kate to change it [03:20] hi! I have an ATI HD 4850, and if I click (in the restricted drivers dialog) on "activate", nothing happens. any idea how to install the driver? [03:21] ok [03:21] there we go. Think I got kubuntu back to where I had it before reinstall [03:23] got sudoers file in kate in front of me... [03:24] ahh, you fix it? [03:24] line 25? [03:24] not completely [03:24] milo__: Good. Remove the line reading: milo ALL=(ALL) ALL [03:24] milo__: Then save, and it should be as it should [03:24] ok [03:24] genii, there is a tutorial out there that says to add that, I didn't. I dont' know if it breaks things or right but it didnt' look right to me either. [03:25] are you sure i have to remove it? [03:26] milo__: yes remove milo ALL=(ALL) ALL but besure %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL is there [03:26] let me check [03:26] Serpardum: Putting a specific username is less a prob than ANY as the name... any daemon which has a username could have admin access for instance. Also user "nobody". The specific username is about the same as the admin line, except now he could change his username and still be able to sudo [03:27] wasn't there, but i put it. :D [03:27] mine has seemingly 2 lines, root ALL=(ALL) ALL and %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL [03:27] milo__: Good. [03:27] How can I find out what is causing my computer to no longer connect to the Internet or read USB devices? [03:28] Serpardum: Thats what a normal one should look like [03:28] one tutorial for shared folders told me to add jim ALL=(ALL) ALL but I didn't think that was a good diea [03:29] draik: Some investigating.... check output of dmesg for instance to see any weird messages about usb or so on... [03:29] oh it was jim ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL it wanted me to add even [03:29] genii: Thank you. I will post it right now after the reboot [03:29] Serpardum: looks dangerous to me [03:30] Done! [03:30] milo__: tru visudo [03:31] try visudo [03:31] Oohh, i did it tru kate [03:31] i will just do it again [03:31] no [03:31] u dont have to [03:32] genii: It just term'd the Internet connection. Here is all I have for the 'eth0' entries... [03:32] what is visudo? I get permission denied [03:32] if i dun have to so, it's ok. [03:32] milo__: if sudoers file have %admin and milo is removed it should be fine now [03:33] genii: eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1 eth0: no IPv6 routers present [03:33] Serpardum: There are special commands which lock the file you are working on..special files like sudoers file, password files, and so on. The editor is vi so visudo is for sudoers, vipw is for pasword file, etc etc. But on a single-user system any editor is fine [03:33] ahh, kay [03:34] genii: A lot more came up. Will reboot to post those results [03:34] draik: I'm not going to be able to help much, heading to sleep shortly [03:34] genii: OK. I will try to dissect it and see if I can make sense of it all. [03:35] draik: I would suggest to pastebin result of command: dmesg [03:35] genii: u know a good telnet client works on KDE ? [03:35] Yataaaa!!! Thanks guys!!!!! [03:35] ahmad_: I usually use command-line client [03:36] milo__: welcome [03:36] but why did that visudo always permission denied? strange [03:36] genii: command-line client didnt work with dynamips [03:36] Here is my dmesg pastebin: http://pastebin.com/m1eb103aa [03:37] milo__: its protected [03:37] milo__: Because you need to use sudo with it, ironically. But as I just explained to Serpardum, on single user system it's not needed [03:38] aahh ok. Thanks once again. [03:38] ahmad_: Ah. If the command-line doesn't work I doubt any gui one will. Some issue with dynamips and telnetting, likely [03:39] genii: i guess so, on fedora it works fine .. and i hate to rebot to windows just for dynamips [03:47] I am installing an application, and it says it requires 32 bit jre, i have 64 bit.... how do i install the 32 bit? I used sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre [03:51] can someone tell me how to join python's channel? [03:51] /join #python ? [03:51] hi all [03:56] hi [03:56] how can I join a new network in Konverstaion program? I want to join in #Pardus. May you help me? [03:56] selam ahmad [03:56] salam kyzylsungur [03:56] I joined =) [03:56] kyzylsungur just use /join #Pardus [03:56] Sukran ahmad =) thanks =) [03:57] kyzylsungur: u welcome :) [03:57] =) [03:58] If someone can help me with my desktop disconnecting from my desktop, here is my dmesg pastebin: http://pastebin.com/m1eb103aa [03:59] what's that pastebin? [03:59]